Is Sekiro the perfection of videogames?
gta 6 is
no it's parryslop
waiter, water!more gay ass slow mo please
Garbage ass combat system, all reactive.
>>746031591Maybe on planet retard
>>746031591Nah
>>746031591Gay. Sekiro sucks but also shows fromsoftware can write normal stories but just chooses to make Zanifart nonsense.
>>746031591where the nigger phonk muzak you brown zoomer editor?
I can only imagine how exhilarating Sekiro must be for the midwit. You have the total freedom of pressing one button (parry) and thinking you are the most amazing gamer of all time.
why is everyone seething? it was a fun game
>>746031591>15 seconds to do one hit
>>746032158I didn't play sekiroparryslop, what is going on in this webm?
>>746032337The player is bugging the AI by using that consumable, so AI is doing the same attack and player is using a special parry to increase the enemy stagger bar, which gets him an execution
>>746032474Eh, pretty clever. Did Fromsoft even playtest this shit before releasing it or assume no one would counter the AI input reading?
>>746032627The second one
>>746031591Holy kino. The chinks could never make this.
>>746031745nigga it's a rhythm game, if you're reacting you're doing it wrong
>>746031680parryslop > comboslop > rollslop
>>746031591I managed to beat it on 10 fps just by listening to the sound cues
>>746032158>>746032474>>746032627>>746032728To be fair this looks to be working similarly to Onimusha 1 where you press to suck souls in order to bait out predictable attacks for you to parry/issen so this might have been intentional cheese strat.
>>746032627He is using limited items (all of them he has gathered so far it seems) to inflict like 10% of posture damage. You need to fill the bar 3 times to kill him IIRC, so he traded all his consumables for ~3% total damage. I bet Fromsoft didnt playtest for it since they didnt assume anyone would be that retarded. Looks silly though, I'll give you that.
>>746031591>using gadgetsYou didn't beat the game
It was trash>b-butkatanas are gay and so are you
>>746032858no it's just slop>a giant enemy is about hit you with his giant club>option a: roll away>option b: step aside>option c: parry it with your tiny sword
>>746032072Remember how hard it filtered people? Like every From game, it wasn't just normies and journos, it was lots of anons here too. There were a bunch of threads on /v/ of people raging about the game that were clearly just bad at it. That's like 80% of the hate for From games, seething because you got filtered, but then going online and pretending something else is fundamentally wrong with the game instead, and that you HATE the game for that reason only.
>>746033585>option d: teleports behind youPssh, nothing personnel kid.
>>746033704that's also would be kino
>>746031591>Using ninja toolsFuck off casual
>>746031591I could never beat this guy or pretty much any other boss, I had to use a trainer. I was parrying him so much but I would get killed by his lightning attack pretty much every time.
>>746031591If you never played any action game
>>746033681I've still never beaten the final boss but even I recognize what a good game it is. When you get into that flow state it feels awesome. As bad at it as I am I managed to no hit the ogre mini boss at the beginning one night when I was drunk as fuck and it felt sublime.
>>746033681The criticism came from Soulsfags who were used to their games having slow, methodical combat while Sekiro encouraged aggressive, fast-paced gameplay. Then when players got used to the faster-paced combat, they'd throw in a boss that required you treat it like a Souls boss and be more methodical.
>>746033037Im glad in almost 20 years japanese devs are doing the same anti player tricks.
>>746034958Healthbar is meaningless, youre just doing scripted animations to kill everyone. They might as well just had a timer on every boss, survived one minute thirty heres your win.
>>746031591Kinoslop
>>746034958>The criticism came from Soulsfags who were used to their games having slow, methodical combatolder souls game had slower combat, definitely. but methodical? there was nothing methodical about it because it was as simple as the souls formula could get. where did this "muh methodical combat" meme even come from? elden ring has significantly more methodology in how you approach combat, such as choosing weapon infusions, physick combinations, figuring out which attacks to jump over, ashes of war, etc.
>>746034958There is only a single boss in the game that behaves like a Souls boss and it was optional and shit to boot.
>>746035353>Healthbar is meaninglessenemy vitality affects how fast their posture regenerates, retard
>>746031591No that's NGB. Sekiro came out 15 years later and has a fraction of the depth.
if u want parry slop you should have played mordhau at its peakyou could do 1v3 if you were good and actually parry/chamber by having to time and target the enemies weapon, instead of just pressing one button after some shitty animationbut 90% of /v/ is too casual for mordhau kek
>>746031591Cringe parryslop
>>746035962Oh so it only effects the parry bar? They could have had the bad guys limp at low health like Monster Hunter, but i guess fromsoftware isnt that talented.
>>746036109>positioning is when enemies move and attack so fucking slowly that you can trivialize their moveset by just strafinganti-fromsoft trannycord faggots literally are just filtered shitters.
>>746036109Yeah positioning goes out the window with parryslop, not to say rollslop doesn't have any shortcomings but at least it respects positioning while parryslop is completely streamlined in the wrong direction.
>>746036427>They could have had the bad guys limp at low health like Monster Hunterhow would this affect gameplay? do you want enemies to become weaker like Sif when they get to low health, you shitter? thanks for at least admitting you didnt actually play sekiro, discord tranny
>is Boring Pseud Slop (Japan Edition) the perfection of video games?good one OP
yes.and there are only two kinds of people in this world. people who know sekiro is the absolute peak of the action game genre (currently), and people who got filtered by chained ogre. there is no in between, no grey. you either love sekiro or suck at it.
>>746033681The only thing filtering me was the PS4's shit framerate. Got hard stuck on Genishiro until I swapped to PC (no, didn't buy it twice) at which point I proceeded to kill him first try and go on to stomp the rest of the game.
>>746036669>sekiro is boring pseud slopif you actually played vidya, you'd know that sekiro has one of the most straightforward stories in fromsoft's catalogue.
>>746036736>stomp the rest of the game.Except demon of hatred, I just remembered.Had to cheese that one by making the AI run off a cliff because goddamn did that fight suck
>>746033681>seething because you got filtered, but then going online and pretending something else is fundamentally wrong with the game instead, and that you HATE the game for that reason onlyboy, this statement clocks /v/ to a T
no.and there are only two kinds of people in this world. people who know sekiro is absolute goyslop (and always was), and people who got conned into lapping up the goyslop like a good little retard. there is no in between, no grey. you either love sekiro or you were smart enough to avoid its dimwitted retardation.
>>746036804>if you actually played vidya>storiesKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKget a load of this fucking goyslop munching FAGGOT
>>746031591Yes, it's objectively the perfect game.
The shitters on /v/ never truly recovered from being exposed because Sekiro didn't let them over level and use overpowered meta builds to stomp the game.
>>746036590This is how you onow the games shit. Offer any sort of opinions and the luddites come out swinging. Have fun with your fotm game.
>>746037104fromsoft games are always gameplay first over story though?
>>746037190>fotm gameIt came out 7 years ago. Stop using words you don't understand.
>>746037316Fotm. Never got dlc, nobody talks about it today, all the lore trannies ran out of material in six months.
>>746037190>shitter offers opinions on a game he hasnt played after comparing it to a crapcom game that was made for literal goycattle. kill yourself immediately. Or better yet, kill everyone in your trooncord including yourself. faggot.
>>746037412>Fotmwon goty. still peaks at 7k players daily on steam alone. >never got dlcgame is already complete without it. >nobody talks about it todaybecause it came out in 2019 and most people already beat it. >lore trannies ran out of material in six monthsthe story is straightforward and simple for a fromsoft game.
>>746031591Simon says 2019
>>746037618Im just rage baiting on lunch break. You are acting insane by seeing everything as a conspiracy. Good day.
>>746031591Its the perfection of souls games for sure.
>>746031591Raped by Lies of P
>>746033681Same thing with Doom Eternal./v/tards got filtered.
>>746031591How does Mortal Shell 2 compare to Sekiro.
>>746032858Blockslop > parryslop > rollslop
>>746033585What other realistic options would be there? There's also jumping in this game so that's already covered. You are retarded.
>>746038504That looks repetitive and no skill is involved.
>>746038467Pretty good, it's also parryslop if you get a shell that's built for that.
>>746031745Nah, I've seen clips where being aggressive actually let's you win easier. >>746031998Kek, you're the midwit, which is why you're being reductiveI didn't even complete the game but, You have>Parry>Attack>Ninja tools>Mikiri counter >Jump>Dodge And othersYou're either being dishonest or didn't play the game
>>746038615The skill is managing stanina and chosing when to trigger it since enemies have multi hit combos that stagger you out of the counter.So you do it on single attack or end of combo strikes, not every single attack that hits your shield.
>>746031591Not according to your webm.
>>746031591It's the best fromsoftware game ever. You cannot abuse builds or stats, you simply just get good or lose.And that makes 99% of players foam from their mouth.
>>746033519It mogs every Western slop combat game, certainly.
>>746031591I remember not being very impressed with it on release. Then I got it for PC and it felt like I was suddenly playing it on easy mode
>>746036586A more aggressive playstyle isn't inherently bad, retard.
>>746031680jumpslop
>>746031591Garbfiction.
>>746038798You can totally abuse prostetic tools like firecrackers that work on 90% of enemies to allow you some free hits on their HP.And it never gets to the level of Elden Ring's endgame difficulty.
>>746038775>The skill is managing staminaLMAO stopped reading right there.
>>746038937Parryslop isn't aggressive though, it's reactionary.
>>746038775Not really, there was no stamina management involved in your clip. Stamina management doesn't require skill or reflexes either. You just create distance and wait for it to regenerate. Not to mention that alot of parry focused games also have blocking, and stamina or posture bar management.
>>746039123Nah, attacking in sekiro is actually helpful and lets you win faster. It builds up the enemy stagger bar. Just parrying is slower.
>>746036109>positioning doesn't matter>gets slapped with an anti-heallol
>>746038986If you use prostetic tools you're a fag to begin with, even so it runs out and now what?In ER you can just gobble down mana pots and keep using your fag spells. Late game ER is hard because you want it to be hardhard =/= good
>>746038525>parrying a giant dude>realisticfromdrones are mentally retarded
>>746039230You're incentivized and rewarded for reactive parrying more so than proactive attacking. Also my initial complaint was about positioning taking a backseat more so than the impact on player aggression.
>>746039441I'm asking what other defensive measures could be implemented, disingenuous troon. Sekiro is a fantasy game, of course you do unrealistic things.
>>746038525obviously using your cool mage staff and killing the enemy with one spell while he hasnt even locked on you yet, why? do you want to actually play the game or do you want to kill the boss in seconds?
>>746039479>You're incentivized and rewarded for reactive parrying more so than proactive attackingNah, I've seen clips where people dominate bosses just by attacking alot. Just parrying makes things very slow. I did both attack and defense equally.
>>746039653That's not a defensive option. What you want is a one button mash children's game with no depth or challenge.
>>746038504>ogrebro didnt even play the game
>slop slop slop slop>MOMMY I LEARNED A NEW WORD TODAYYou are absolute faggots. Finding a basic mechanic in a game and attaching a buzzword to it doesn't constitute actually saying anything.
>>746039773why defense if just can damage??
>>746039479Not at all.Not attacking means you do no HP damage to the enemy (during windows where he can't deflect).Not doing HP damage means if the enemy does a backstep/stall move he instantly regains all the posture built up from your 25+ parries, wasting your time.Doing at least 20% HP damage to that boss makes his posture regen far slower and you lose maybe 5% progress instead of 50%.
>>746039902Because one button mash games where the enemies don't fight back are boring. You should stick to RPGs, don't bother coming to action game threads.
Sekiro is one of the worst games I've ever seen. How this piece of shit have fandom is surprising.
>>746039980Its gets the weeaboo bonus points
>>746039896It's about time the mods wordfilter SLOP to GOTY or something, it's really been used to death.
>>746033338those aren't limited items, they're his upgradable gourds. they refill every time you rest. the first one is the estus flask equivalent and then the others are reusable debuff cures for poison and burning
The fact that unlike NR this game needs to built up from zero, instead of using a bunch of weapons/bosses and enemies from ER, means that it'll have extrenely low content for a multiplayer roguelike.NR might have been a "lazy cash in" but having that critical mass of content to at least last 150 hours of runs before it gets extremely samey was the right call.
>>746031591It's pretty damn close
i think kuro's charm should have been disabled by default because i was never sure if i was timing the deflect properly or not
>>746039896slop post
good game but a far cry from perfection, as it doesn't even know how to handle its own combat system. the weapons and skill system is hopelessly clunky and dysfunctional from being tied to the old souls control scheme.had it had the courage to invent controls that actually allowed you to properly use all of your tools at once I would rate it much higher.
>>746033585>>a giant enemy is about hit you with his giant club >>option c: parry it with your tiny sword
>>746042653trvke. tiny sword is nippon steel, folded 1000 times, no weapon can surpass it.
>>746032072It's the only from game without summons or stats. You have to actually git gud instead of letting someone play the game for you or overleveling to a comical degree.
>OP actually fell for the (((GOTY award gaym))) ruse
>>746032738>>746031591>>746037174You could totally make clips like that in Black Myth Wukong
>>746031591The only FromSoft game I like, in fact I love it
>>746043295
>>746040085>FILTER ME HARDER, DADDYkeep crying, gaylord
>>746040085I said that in another thread lol, "slop" is up there with "media literacy" as terms that allow you to ignore the opinion of anyone that uses it. Zoomers don't have any sense of nuance, and therefore don't understand anything that requires more than 1 second of forethought. Of course they need their own special buzzword to refer to anything that requires them to use their underdeveloped frontal lobe without the assistance of Family Guy and Subway Surfers clips.
>>746031680spbp
sex with Kuro
>>746031591put simply yes
How do you make a good action game that isn't slop?
For me, it's True Corrupted Monk.>HA HA HA HA
I don't understand people clamoring for a Sekiro sequel. A sequel would only ruin it.
masterpiece. I pray every day for a sequel
>>746044338the lack of kuro r34 is maddening
>>746031591a true 10/10 gameamong the best i've ever played
>>746040431I think you got the wrong thread buddy.
>>746044092>slop refer to low quality product intended for lowest masses >REEEE YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THIS WORD BECAUSE REASONSWhy are you stupid? Also, it's funny you are triggered by "slop" yet use buzzword "zoomer" and not official "gen z" name. Tsk tsk tsk
>>746036427you can kill them by reducing the health bar instead of the posture/parry bar, its not meaningless. you dont actually HAVE to parry enemies to beat the game, which no one seems to acknowledge in these threads. if you want to merely dodge and poke a boss like a souls game you can do that too, its how I beat rape ape and owl.
sekiro is the best 3d action game to date, and silksong is the best 2d action (in addition to being the best metroidvania)and what do they have in common? making no skill shitters seethe until the end of time
>>746036715as much as I loved sekiro, I struggled hard at many bossesbut the ogre? not one bit. Still don't get what was so hard about him for people.also WOOOOOO
>>746032858Parry destroys any combat system. Why allow you to move around, dodge or block attacks, why even have attacks when all you need to do is stay in place, parry and counter attack?I can only think of one game where parry was ok and that's Jack's game.
>>746047829if you don't have flame thrower, you have to deal with his insane grab hit box. For a new player it's fucking ass.
>>746047818>sekirobased>noskilsongcringe
>>746048337that's not how Sekiro works, if you don't deal HP damage when there's an opening bosses will recover posture way too fast to get a deathblow.
>>746042994you can't really over level in sekiro. the only stats that explicitly make things easier are attack power and physical attributes (vitality/posture), which you can only increase in set amounts by defeating bosses and difficult enemies. in other words, you cannot struggle on a boss and then go and get +stat to help you beat him, you in fact must beat the boss to get the +stat. what you can increase is the amount of charges on your flask by exploring the world available to you for gourd seeds, and grinding money and skill points to buy new abilities and prosthetic upgrades, but these will do very little for you if you're struggle on a boss. you can beat the whole game without upgrading any prosthetics at all and will not notice. after learning the skills which should just be baseline mechanics (mikarai counter/prosthetic follow), which are right at the very beginning of the skill tree anyway), there is nothing to get from them for boss fight help except very small incremental advantages, such as 1 more spirit emblem on hand or increased health gained from drinks/pellets. the combat arts you can learn are useless, either they let you do damage when the boss is vulnerable or they don't, and none of them are any better than just doing a thrust attack instead, until you learn mortal draw, which you learn as part of the story. the combat arts in fact are all so useless they feel like they were slapped onto the game near the end of production as an afterthought. if you get stuck on a boss in sekiro, you can't just make it weaker/yourself stronger by grinding, you have to actually beat it as it's presented to you (*). there may be other difficult enemies or bosses you haven't beaten yet you can go and fight instead, in order to get prayer beads, which will actually help, but there's no mindless safe place to just 'grind' and get stronger, you have to defeat real challenges. (*)however you can just use sugars, invalidating all this good design entirely
>>746031591this shit was among the hardest game ive ever beaten. radahn in the elden ring dlc comes close but even there you could make a build thats well suited for him and get help from your mimic in sekiro theres no shortcuts like that, all you have is yourself
>>746048881elden ring is much harder than sekiro
>>746036715nah, i like sekiro but as far as modern nipponland games go, i fucking loved nioh immensely more
>>746048798That's what I was saying. A lot of shitters only beat the Souls games by summoning or overleveling, so they seethe when Sekiro doesn't let them do that and asks them to actually git gud.
>>746050340oh yeah I misread your post. I thought you said you have to actually get good over level to a comical degree.
If Sekiro was an exclusive for a shitendo console you just know /vee/ would be treating it like the holy grail while jannies banned anyone who criticized it but its not so itll be seen as trash parry/rollslop. Duskblood threads have proved this
I ragequit Sekiro because they hit me with the dragon rot bullshit when I was learning the game on the first miniboss. Absolute shit mechanic.
>>746039479>You're incentivized and rewarded for reactive parrying more so than proactive attackingBullshit, you never played sekiro or sucked at it, shut your mouth if you have no clue
>>746050665while dragon rot feels bad to be causing, mechanically all it does is lower the chance of you not losing gold and skill points on death, which already has a low chance of happening. as the story progresses, you can cleanse dragonrot easily. but again, mechanically, it does practically nothing. I can't remember if it explains to you what it actually does ingame or not, but I understand it can make you feel bad for having.
>>746044267Slop Post Best Post?
If you think Sekiro is too easy, NG+7 charmless demon bell is a good challenge. Sword Saint Isshin in particular will kill you quickly if you fail to parry properly.
>>746054368the only hard boss is the demon of hatred, mainly because its designed to ignore everything you were thought in the game and force you to fight it like a dark souls boss
>>746054547The Headless are really tough on the highest difficulty. Their parry timings make no sense and are actual bullshit.I disagree with you on Demon of Hatred. He is one of the easiest bosses in the game even on the highest difficulty. Even Divine Dragon is harder.
>>746054368Isshin is a little easy and Inner version doesn't change too much.Inner Father demonbell charmless took me a while though, even on just NG+5
>>746055297>Inner Father demonbell charmless took me a while though, even on just NG+5Really unpopular opinion but I think Great Shinobi Owl is harder than Inner Father. Owl Father is the easiest no doubt but Inner Father is not that much harder. You've got tons of space to move around, they're so aggressive that it's a lot easier to break their posture, and unlike Great Shinobi Owl the other variants don't mix up their attack rhythm.
>>746046718"Zoomer" is the term for retards in Gen Z, not all of Gen Z in a vacuum. You just outed yourself as a zoomer though, dipshit. Stay mad.
I'm playing through Sekiro at the moment and really enjoy it, on my third playthrough at the moment (done bad ending, normal ending, now going for good ending). Here are the criticisms I have, fresh in my mind: -While I love the jump/dodge/mikari counters to sweeps/grabs/thrusts, and love that you have to pay attention to the enemies visuals rather than just seeing a different colored simon says symbol, I feel this is undermined by how some of the visuals blur together. There should be clarity and consistency, but there are several grabs that look like thrusts. -Spirit emblems seem a strange idea to me. Are prosthetics really that strong that you couldn't have just had a replenishing amount of uses with each rest? Well, they don't seem to be. I'm not great and died enough times against certain bosses that I totally ran out of spirit emblems and have beaten every boss I've struggled against with no prosthetic tools because of this. The tools can't be that necessary then if a shitter like me can do without them, so why make them limited? I'd be more inclined to experiment with different approaches and different tools on different bosses if they just had X amount of uses per rest. It's cool to learn for example that you can pull the centipede out of the guardian apes neck with the spear tool and deal big posture damage, and I wonder how many other unique tool and boss interactions there are, but I'm not disincentivized from spending my spirit emblems on anything except firecrackers...-...but as mortal draw seems to be the only combat art that deals appreciable vitality damage, and dealing vitality damage is so important against bosses, I quickly lose all my spirit emblems anyway and barely get to use tools. I've tried using other combat arts which do not cost spirit emblems on bosses, for example on father owl in the burning temple earlier today, and the ones I tried deal far less or actually no vitality damage at all.
>>746031591Sekiro is quite possibly the best game ever made
>>746031591It's a bit too simple for my tastes
