When did you realize Linux was fucking garbage for gaming
>>746036705>for gamingname 1 thing it does better than other OS
>>746036705You do know you can have two operating systems right? On the same computer, even.
>>746036819don't forget the gigachad on the rightOP literally saves pictures of a shirtless muscular man on his device
>the main games that don't run on Linux are games with low level anti-cheats>these games are usually competitive games and g*cha both of which actively ruin their users' livesI'm thinking Linux is actually the based option here.
RMS has an early life section. That tells me everything I need to know about Linux.
>>746036705test
>>746037181welcome to 4chan
I don't use Pajeetware.>Macbook for work>Linux on desktop >Linux Retro Handheld for gaming on the goWindows is slop.
>>746036705This is not video games, but Linux is for people who pretend they can hide from feds. When in reality, glowies have us all ided. The last funko pop you ordered from Amazon? Congratulations, they got a personality for you. If tommorow you decide that drowning in bread and circuses is not enough and wanna go out with a ((bang)), the personality imprint will be used against you.
>>746036813NetworkingThat's about it really
I've been using it for 4 years exclusively now. when do I realize that it's garbage or something?
>>746037180It is possible to use Linux without Stallman’s autism infesting it.
>>746037319>slopStopped reading there. I don't care about the opinions of 12 year olds.
>>746036705When I tried to mod a game
Linux's philosophy of "everything is a stateless plaintext file" paid off greatly since you can just ask an AI agent in the console to fix literally anything and it will easily do it.>yo tin can, my game ain't working>Certainly sir! I patched the files and configured the launcher correctly and testing shows that it now run flawlessly!
>>746037506But you still felt the uncontrollable urge to respond.
>>746037771It thinks its opinion matters when they're not even allowed to post.
>>746036705>make meme with mspaint>post meme>they look up the watermark on the meme>thnx microsoft>live in britain>yuor meme is hatespeech you cant call someone a faggot
daily linux seethe thread
>>746038421>generated imagesDeserved.
>>746038421>download mspaint ripoff to make a meme>computer gets infected with malware
>>746036705If there were smart people windows wouldn't exist.
>>746038421>using AIYou didn't make the meme.
>>746038421Damn, I was just reading about this on Hacker News like a minute ago. Also due to international copyright law, anyone can just submit a DMCA claim against your image to Microsoft and instantly get all the info connected to your account. Your name, email, etc. The embedded UUID will identify you. They don't even need to prove that they're the real owners of the alleged copyrighted material.
>>746037506>stopped reading at the end of the postPOT KEK
>>746036705don't even pretend windows is any better.
>>746038836>install OS that requires reading>don't read>ZOMGZ HOW COULD THEY LET ME PUT MALWARE ON MY HECKIN COMPUTERINO!
>>746038421>mspaint can stably diffusesince when? and fuck no lol, i've known about this since like, the 90s with printers
>>746038559You have to be dumb if you think they're not going to add invisible watermarks to all images edited in Windows. This is just like the yellow dots that all printer manufacturers now use.
>>746039249you don't even need the AUR in that caseboth kolourpaint and gimp are in the main repositories
commie OS lmao
>>746038836The AUR is not the official repository. Its just where users can upload anything and share it with others. There's no vetting or anything. They're very upfront about that when you enable it.
What if we all stopped using computers and went outside to socialize and contribute to society?
>>746038836>go to source force or cpuid>download exe >get powershell rat on pchow could microsoft do this?
>>746037180I like how how his entire claim to fame, EMACS, wasn't even made by him. He just stole it, wrote his name on it, and claimed he made it.
>>746036705People who hate linux are either too stupid for linux or pajeet microshills, no exceptions.
>>746036705I've been gaming exclusively on linux for over 7 years nownowadays it works fine
>>746039665
>>746037506>he says, commenting in a wojak threadAutism.
>>746036705>Chad is stick figure underneath >Basedjack is fully form and has an extra armWe all know who really made this thread.
>>746039665His claim to fame was the GNU project. Which was basically just a MIT side project until Linux made a kernel for them and brought it into the mainstream. He is also more known for being the head of the FSF and a huge freedom autist in general.
>>746036705>Nooooooo i can't run slop on linux buaaaaaaa buaaaaaaaaaaa I NEED MY GOYSLOOOOP
>>746036705Works on my machine
>>746039958>
>>746037506>>slop>Stopped reading thereYou read bottom-to-top, right-to-left?
>>746040032What an absolute unit
>>746037585This is the one thing that keeps pissing me off.>installing mods into a game that otherwise runs fine>some mods aren't working for some reason>nine times out of ten it's because Linux is case-sensitive, the game doesn't force case-sensitivity, and the modder did inconsistent capitalization>have to go through every file and folder to make sure shit actually fucking matches up>good chance that the mods don't work anyway for some fucking reason
>>746036705when installing a game with exe
>>746039486>when you enable it.pro tip: manually downloading and compiling AUR packages the proper way is not any harder than using an AUR helper. it's also a great opportunity to check the PKGBUILD files as you're supposed to before updating anything blindly.
>>746038421low iq - my privacy doesn't matter, corporations are trustworthymidwit - my privacy is of the utmost importance!high iq - my privacy doesn't matter, it's already compromised in ways i don't even know i don't knowascended god - i only use an airgapped computer to store cryptographic data that must be decrypted with a physical key
>>746036705W11 recently gave me an ick, was trying to play Il-2 Sturmovik 1946 on my W11 PC, but the game didnt run no matter what I did, so I had to pirate the GOG version and do some tinkering on it to be able to play the gameDont know if it was Steam or W11's fault, but the fact that the game was working perfectly on a laptop with W10 and Linux Mint makes me think that W11 was the main culprit.Still not going to downgrade or change to Linux, though.Anyway, thank you for reading my blog post.
>>746036705Never because it just works for gaming :^)
>>746037354OpenBSD is better at that
>>746036958That's a picture of OP though. That's how he looks like in real life.
>>74603750612 year olds are defending windows because it enables spyware that lets them play compslop so they can rage and scream in their rooms
>>746037506Stop pretending to be Indian.
>>746036705Works on my machine.
lol troonixfags in full denial
>swap to linux last year after windows kept getting worse and more enshittified year after year>its been fucking amazing>have to log back into windows (i still dual boot) for the first time in like 6 months just to use a proprietary application>immediate forced updates for 2 hours>whatever>finally get in>explorer.exe crashes nonstop>it literally will not stop crashing>get this filling up my screen saying it happened atleast 3x but its been way more than that>literally just keeps crashing and rebooting itself>decide to try another round of updates to see if that fixes it>stuck in update boot loop for another few hours>get back into windows finally>explorer is still fucking crashing>say fuck it, go back to linux and just make a VM of windows 10 to use the proprietary application>it worksThis is one of many reasons I swapped to linux not just for gaming but for everything. Jesus christ windows is fucking garbage these days.
>>746036705when i've realized that some games are simply unable to run on non-Windows systems, thus making it inferior for gaming by the very definitionI don't play anything other than stalker and doom wads so i can live with slightly worse performance and non-existent security
>>746049226stalker works just fine on linux though... is this bait?
I'll move to Linux when Genshin Impact releases on steam
>>746036705As usual, third worlders and other low IQ scum call the things they don't understand "garbage"
>>746049282holy reading :skull:
>>746049387although it is nice to use steam for all games, you dont need to use it for hoyo games. there are dedicated linux launchers for all of them that you can download and install through lutris. However, obviously having all of your games in one place is very nice so i cant fault you for not wanting to deal with that.
>>746049484Are you retarded?
>>746049130>use an indian vibecoded tool to patch explorer.exe>"ummm why does it crash??"these are the browns whom with I share /v/ with
>>746049656i think you meant to tag this guy >>746049656
Fedora or Cachy?
>mentally ill kde seether posting ancient and long solved bugs again
>>746036705It works on my machine
>>746049226>some games are simply unable to run on non-Windows systems>I don't play anything other than stalker and doom wadsGood news: it sounds like your problem with Linux is already solved.
The irony as you realize PC is garbage for gaming, everything windows users say about linux applies to them compared to console
>>746050092bruh... read the last part, linux runs games, software and pretty much anything worse compared to windows, all because Wine (a Windows Emulator, as the name indicates) just can't compare to running things natively
>>746050216>Wine
>>746050275proton is just Wine just like most distros are just Ubuntu
Windows just works.>B-b-but le hecking gabe newell bought wine. we are so backwho? Sounds like some yacht jew.
>>746036705>Operating system doesn't run software written for different operating system very wellThere's a lot to dislike about linux and I do but why is this even a valid criticism? That is what you are referring to, bringing up gaming. The fact that you can do it at all is an achievement.
>>746050415all these videos are from the proterozoic cherrypicked from nightly builds reposted time and time again by people who make their OS choice too much of their identity BTW
>>746050412>yeah you can survive just by eating shit all day>yeah it's not real food but how is that valid criticism?>the fact you can do it at all is an achievement
>>746050395Windows works less often than consoles
>KDE mindbroke one Anon into reposting old bugs for years on both /v/ and /g/kek
>>746039579no
>>746039579Contribute what
>>746037506Yeah, the last word is typically when you stop reading a post
>>746036705Linux is garbage but at least is free garbage. Not like Windows which is paid garbage.
>>746049689Are you this fucking stupid? Seriously? Did you even read his post? Are you yourself an indian?
>>746049849If you can handle the constant updates then Cachy, hands down.Fedora is only good for forks like Bazzite, Ultramarine, etc. which take care of the tedious stuff for you. But even then, Fedora is just the worst middle grown between Debian and Arch, not the best of both worlds.
>>746049689>>746051083Actually he was right, I myself am retarded. It had been so long since I had used windows that I forgot that I had used explorerpatcher in order to fix the horribly enshittified windows explorer. Obviously my version was severely outdated and needed to be updated, and doing so fixed my issue.So it was me, I was the fool, and I will admit it. But then again, I shouldnt have to patch explorer just to make it fucking decent.
>>746051212>tedious stuff for youSuch as?
>>746050074...What's wrong with this one, exactly? Looks like it does exactly what it's supposed to do.
>>746049849between those 2? Fedora. I use it and it's a nice balance of stable and new. Mint however is the absolute retard's choice, even the bird could use it
>>746051516Fedora is indeed the patrician's choice of distro.
>>746051212>Fedora is just the worst middle grown between Debian and Archyou have no clue what you are talking about
>>746051212if the "tedious stuff" is third party repos, recent versions of fedora let you just do that with a click of a button
>>746052017does that include nvidia drivers
>>746050915i want to have unprotected gay anal sex with konqi that ends in a creampie
What exactly makes it difficult to do some stuff on Linux like running certain software?
>>746052051Yeshttps://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/workstation-working-group/third-party-repos/
>>746052342closed source windows libraries that require reverse engineering everything
>>746037506Thank Vishnu you skipped that period at the end of his post.
>>746052342In laymens terms, the architecture behind how windows, OSX/MacOS , and Linux are completely different, and so if you create an application to run on one, it will not just natively work on the others. This is why on Mac, most games dont work except for those that have native mac ports.On linux, there is something called wine which is basically a translation layer that attempts to bridge the gap in the architecture between windows and linux in order to make the applications work. Then Valve basically created/funded a new version of Wine called Proton which has worked WAYY better when it comes to translating things and ever since its introduction gaming on linux has gotten better and better to the point now where most games will work with little to no tinkering.However, proton as far as I understand it is mostly meant for games, not just generic software, and so you are forced to still use wine, which is nearly as sophisticated.
>Decide to get away from M$>Check out Mint, Arch, already knew I didn't want fucking Ubuntu>End up installing Endeavour>The single one "real" problem I've had is my video card drivers desyncing from my kernel version>It never updates unless I fucking want to>*Everything* is just faster.>Game piracy works the same through Wine>The amount of games for which I've used my dual boot is literally 1 (one)>Abiotic factor, has since been fixed. Excellent game by the way>>746052342Programs don't communicate with the system in a magical, "I-don't-care-about-the-OS" way. When you save your game, it's the program telling the system to write a file, if the program talks to Windows and there's no Windows there, shit doesn't work. Wine, which is what you'd use to run Windows stuff most of the time, basically grabs those calls made to the system and goes "Ah you mean this" and and enables the functionality.
>>746052017yeah steam, nvidia and chrome. Nice repos you got there.
>why yes, if something doesnt work on linux i just use dual boot and do it on windows
>>746054007yes. its like once every 6 months or so but it does happen from time to time.
>>746054071so much for the superior linux if you have to use windows anyway>b-but let me know when i have to use linux because something doesnt work on windows>never
>>746054140>so much for the superior linux if you have to use windows anywayIts already been explained before ITT. Propreitary applications that are made for windows cannot always work with wine. I dont know why you think this is a gotcha lol. You cant use applications that only work on OSX on windows like Logic Pro.
>>746054007That would be an objective way of doing things, yes. You have a toolbox (I hope) in your house for a reason. There's tools used more often than others and that's fine, you don't throw away your saw just because you use your scredrivers and hammer more. Maybe some day Linux will be the perfect OS which does it all flawlessly. But today is not that day.
>>746054007I'm not going to leave Nanami behind, so yes, I'll dual boot into windows 7.
>>746036705If I bought a AMD graphics card instead of Nvidia, I would have exclusively used Linux. Maybe I should just make my PC dual boot and only use windows for gaming. Anyone else dual booting?
>>746054206>>746054140just dual boot or have a separate workstation
>>746050395this but unironically
>>746054465>I would have exclusively used Linux.Skill issue. The problem with Nvidia is trying to resist the urge to download the latest proprietary drivers and then fucking up your ability to play games because it won't play nice with the kernel until a few updates later. The problems Nvidia has on windows are also present on linux.
>>746054509I do dualboot anon, thats what I said I did. I use linux 99% of the time and then extremely rarely I will boot into my windows partition for like 1 thing and then not touch it again for months on end.
>>746050827SOUL
>>746054509This.It's console nigger tier thinking limiting yourself to one tool in the toolbox, the PC is YOUR machine, YOU put whatever you want in it. Unless you own a stupid craptop, enjoy your locked down UEFI.
Kill yourself jaknigger.
>>746036705>When did you realize Linux was fucking garbage for gamingThe truth is that ltieral retards and midwits use phones and tablets now. They don't even need PCs. And that was 90% of all desktop windows users.Non tech-illiterates use Linux now and are leaving windows behind.That's why you are so scared shitless. You got left behind.
>>746054862The average user is tech illiterate, that won't change.The only way to leave Windows behind involves Linux being the default option for retards.
>>746036705Linux isn't garbage for gaming per se, it's just garbage for everything in general. Gaming happens to fall under 'everything'.I use linux every day and it's a trash operating system, championed by pseud retards who misattribute tolerance for tedious bullshit as intelligence and will spend 6 hours unfucking their computer and go "wow I'm so much smarter than that retard windows user who just uses the computer like a fisher price toy where everything actually works"Genuinely, unironically, linux fucktards - the proselytizing 'linux just werks' idiots, the "its pebkac" morons - are the dumbest computer users, not the smartest.>>746036920Yeah and it's a pain in the ass (which you can't acknowledge because you're an unempathetic moron), and windows actively fucks over your linux install if you don't manage it right.
>>746055169The average user being retarded has no bearing on what I do though. If I can use linux just fine for gaming then I have for the most part left windows behind. Let the common masses wallow in their ignorance and disgusting enshittified spyware os.
>>746054007>>746036705sure op, sure, no luck on /g/ right?I hope I can remember how to crossboard post, so my bad if I mess up>>>/g/109638463
>>746054664Dualboot always works like that.You use 1 operating system, either it's windows or it's linux, 99% of the time, and the other one you just never log into, because swapping between the two is a 3 minute pain in the ass that interrupts everything else you're doingThe superior method is to run linux with windows in a virtual machineOr windows exclusively and just ignore linux
>>746036705The opposite actually. Used to game on Windows until the jeets at Microsoft bricked by hdd. Now I'm nobara and never going back to Windows.
>>746055534>The superior method is to run linux with windows in a virtual machineI want to do this except for the fact that Im probably going to need to use respondus browser with lockdown for uni and Im scared that it can detect that its being run on a VM and think im cheating.
>>746055616>hdd
>>746036705reminds me of the meme with a husband
>>746055634I don't see anything wrong with dual booting, you can keep up your facade of normalfag university life on windows and then boot into linux for everything else.
>>746055684Yes, and? Would it be better if they busted the partition on my m.2? The point is I needed to totally reformat the drive losing literally decades worth of files because Microsoft vibe coded their drivers and I couldn't recover it.
I’m pretty sure Linux is used for hacking video games 90% of the time, that from that what you will. They aren’t acting in good faith. Windows might be cluttered garbage but at least I don’t cheat at video games like a faggot to gain some “superiority” over internet talking heads that I will never meet.
For all the copers out there: Linux isn't good for gaming.Proof? There's not a single fucking youtube channel or media creator or whatever fucking slop that does let's plays on Linux. Not one. Only sloppers yapping about how great linux is while not showing a fucking thing.Bunch of poser sloppers and nothing else.
>>746055634Quick google tells me that browser/whatever you're talking about:1. Doesn't run in linux to begin with2. Explicitly detects virtual machines and won't run in them eitherSo I guess your fear is well placed but actually they put in effort to completely prevent it, so you can't do what you want to do to begin with. No need to worry about being called a cheater. You'll have to use windows no matter what. (Or hack around it which is absolutely possible but you'll definitely be called a cheater regardless of actual cheating if anyone finds that out, especially if your skin is White)
>>746055879>I’m pretty sure Linux is used for hacking video gamesand you're retardedafter apex legend banned linux their cheating stats remained unchanged
>>746055320>I use linux every dayStrangely, I doubt this
when i got an nvidia gpu
>>746055968Ah well yeah I guess that makes sense. I didnt know that applications could actually detect they were being run in a virtual machine, thats kind of crazy. I wonder how that works.
>>746056004Hes the same schizo who spends all day every day crying about linux of course hes just lying lol. You can always spot him easily because he almost always uses the same type of vocabulary.
It just fucking works here, dunno where all these problems come from, sometimes its just people messing with drivers they shouldn't, also nvidia driver shenanigasn end up being the source of so many bs its not funny, so I just dont touch them
>>746052342Windows has been the standard OS for decadesWhen people build apps for Windows they use the doors that Microsoft opened for them to get access to your hardware / the OS.Microsoft does not tell anyone how the doors open or how they close.The developers of the Linux kernel also do not know how Microsoft opens their doors, so they made their own ways of opening them. Since (desktop) Linux has such a tiny marketshare compared to Windows very few software developers bothered learning those methods, so it was up to enthusiasts to try and reverse engineer the Microsoft methods so that they could trick software into thinking it is on Windows.
>>746055324>The average user being retarded has no bearing on what I do though. If I can use linux just fine for gaming then I have for the most part left windows behind.The whole reason for >I can use linux just fine for gamingIs that Valve put a whole lot of effort into it because>The average user being retarded
>>746055879>No one should be free because they might do crime, and anyone that advocates freedom is a criminal
>>746037506>12 year oldsStopped reading there. I cannot stand the opinion of posters who bring up children on this website.
>>746055852Your problem was trusting microsoft and not having backups. Even burning important information into a blu-ray disc is fine for a backup and I have so many 100GB discs I don't know what to do with them except pirate/copy steam folders and backup my library. I really hope you have a disc writer.It is traditional to have a drive on the front, be it a floppy drive, a dvd drive, or a blu-ray drive. Return to tradition.
>>746055890>streamingWhy watch someone play games when you should be the one playing games. Come on now.
>>746038421>Paint>AIPaint has ai now?
>>746056423Even notepad has fucking copilot anon.
>>746037180>Jews are good at legal wordings>More news at 11.
>>746056423>>746056568I'm glad I can still use old windows software without updates. Old hardware FTW.
>>746056189He doesn't consider himself part of the retard class, naturallybut most of the people playing games on linux right now wouldn't be doing it if you still had to fuck around with 20 different programs and 200 different settings, tweaking every game individually for your system and doing your own hackey programming scripting horseshit for dozens of hours to get games to run under proton/WINE + whatever other stupid shit was needed. God forbid you even think of modding a game (which is still a massive headache).You just click a game and press play now and the game 'works' (mostly/usually) and these retards don't get that this is not how games actually worked on linux until valve made it that easy for their retarded asses.People are using linux more now than ever because it's being 'dumbed down' (made SMARTER, actually, by SMARTER people) for people who do not have the fucking TIME to fuck around playing computer to get things to do what they're supposed to do.Linux grognards weren't smarter for getting games to work on linux 20 years ago, they were hobbyists playing computer who couldn't care less about the game, or they were stubborn morons. Smart people played games on windows, where it just works - because the point of the operating system is to get the fuck out of the way and let me use my programs to do shit.A concept that is still fucking alien to a lot of the old retarded linux users out thereLinux has been pic related for far too fucking long and many of the proponents of linux, the delusional retards, are constantly going "damn I'm such a fucking genuis for figuring this out", it's WILD how much of their ego is welded to this tedium = smarter belief
>>746049805>>746049861>>746049929>>746050139>>746050270>>746050330>>746050415>>746050560>>746050675>>746050750None of these are reproducible on 6.7.4
>>746056990>but most of the people playing games on linux right now wouldn't be doing it if you still had to fuck around with 20 different programs and 200 different settings, tweaking every game individually for your system and doing your own hackey programming scripting horseshit for dozens of hours to get games to run under proton/WINE + whatever other stupid shit was needed. God forbid you even think of modding a game (which is still a massive headache).Finally, someone self-aware.Then do you also understand that Windows is becoming the operating system that gets in your way because of sheer incompetence?
>>746057178>works on my machine
>>746057194>Then do you also understand that Windows is becoming the operating system that gets in your way because of sheer incompetence?Not him but Win 10 works perfectly fine
>>746037506nigga stopped reading at the end of the post lmao
>>7460572816.7.4 is a version number, numbnuts. I'm on 6.7.3 myself, and none of these exist anymore. Even fucking Gnome put thumbnails in their file picker.
>>746050827holy sovl, need a whole compilation of this kind of bugs/crashes
>>746057281all of those are old and long fixed bugsif kde was really so bad then the faggot wouldn't have to repost that shit over and over
>>746057330Win10 is EOL. Sooner rather than later you're going to be experiencing the same complications that Win7 fags are experiencing where Steam drops support for your operating system, web browsers stop providing updates, other general software may stop working correctly.
>>746051490when i first upgraded to the kde version that introduced this i thought my shit was bugging out, but then i found it was intentional as an accessibility feature, but fortunately i can just disable that
>>746057330Yes, and so does windows 7, and XP before it, and 98SE before it, and the server flavor versions as well. But you'll sooner or later face the same problem that made or coerced windows 7 users to update unwillingly to 10: Microsoft will deprecate it, programs will do checks and refuse to run after updates, and you will upgrade to 11. No, you won't jump to linux, you'll go to 11, maybe with reluctance, but you will go anyway because it is your comfort zone after all.There is nothing wrong with this. Such is life, such is choice. But fortunately, these are not my choices. It's yours.
>>746057459The Compiz spinan cubes from around 2005 never had this many bugs, also they fix one and two other come out
>>746057568This feature is for myopic users or those with dementia that forgot where they moved the mouse. Turn it off, or turn it on to test your mental strength. Or don't use a mouse pointer that blends into its surroundings.
>>746057330Win10 has gotten in my way more than Arch has and I'm not kidding.
>>746057281Exactly. Go ahead, reproduce those bugs.
>>746057721ok, feel free to record a bug right now instead of reposting old shit over and over
>>746056215Erm, I don’t think he said that
>>746057498>>746057598The enterprise version of Win 10 is supported till 2032 when it comes to security updates, I'd wager that's how long it's gonna be supported by the most basic stuff like browsers and whatnot. That being said, unless Linux is 100% compatible with Windows and I never have to worry about Photoshop or some obscure software not working, I'll never swap to Linux. I'd have to be fucking retarded to switch to an OS that actively gets in the way of me doing things just because some fat troons think it's better. Hopefully in the next few years some solutions emerge, we'll see.
>install tiny win 11>disable win updates>update only for critical things (quite rare as most security updates are handled by apps themselves)>get the usual apps (vlc and so on)>enjoy hassle free computer experiencethe only MS "app" that i use is explorer.exe, anything else is done by third party apps, i can't recall having problems or being much of an issue, i have done this for any version of windows so far, win 11 is no different.download things and they just work, what are you people doing with your computers that warrants losing your mind over it?
>>746057878Most likely linux will continue very gradually improving (e.g. getting the fuck out of your way) while windows goes in the opposite direction (due to jeets).This is fundamentally what's driving the current 'surge' in linux users. It's getting out of your way more and things are more often just working. There is still a long way to go, the operating system is a goddamn fucking mess, but directionally, and perhaps especially thanks to it constantly being forked, there is progress over time. It shouldn't have taken 30 fucking years to get to the state it's in today however.
>>746057880>11>disable win updates
>>746057878It's not the security updates that are a concern, anon. It's your own third party software. Some of them will simply refuse to work after an update or won't support your OS anymore. Saying you have until a certain year is just mentally comforting yourself. I feel like Marche when I say this, but don't you see, you're running out of time. You shouldn't even have a time limit imposed upon yourself, that implies you really don't have full control of your machine.
oh i do have this image saved here*ahem*lol, lmao.
>>746058182>NvidiaThat I can believe. Also deserved.
>>746058052actually insanely easy to do, in fact i'm using the same script i used for the very first release of windows 10, i genuinely do not know how are other people disabling win update and why it comes back for them, the script that i use taps into group policy, no extra steps have been done, literally same script to activate it too (the "crack").i choose the tiny versions of these OS because they are tripped out of useless things but they maintain core functionality (such as edge/webview)if it wasn't for the UI change i wouldn't even know the OS was any different
>>746058052The mess with updates on 10 and subsequently 11 is why I hopped over to linux. You can choose not to have updates on linux! Hell, even Valve is running Steam OS on fucking 6.x.x. kernels. Losing the ability to make windows updates shut up officially with a single button click like on win7 without having to tinker or use 3rd party or having your "company" control it is the biggest no-no to me.
>>746058226amd literally has nothing in this class :(not even their server cards can compete. i had to.
>>746058236You're missing the point. You shouldn't have to use a script. It should be built-in by Microsoft. Just as it was on XP, Vista, 7, and 8.1. They treat your PC as a terminal when you damn well know it's your own personal mainframe.
>>746058236>>746058329Its not about being easy or hard to disable, doing so makes you more easy to get "hacked", not "I'm in" hacked, but getting infected just as for watching a png or url wrong for 1 second.If you're gonna use windows at least use ltsc so you get security updates
>>746056083works fine on my distro
>>746036705I only play gachashit, KSP and MSFS 2020, all that shit runs perfectly on Linux
>>746036813Open exe files in a double clickoh wait linux can't do that
>>746058046I have a friend who uses Linux (don't remember which distro) and he often has to check whether any game I recommend can run on his PC. I use PC only for work and occasional gaming and I never have to worry about shit like this pre-emptively, yes there are problems sometimes but I've gotten to a point that I can troubleshoot very well even if I'm not a tech person myself. The comfort is simply priceless.>>746058128Of course I'm on borrowed time, I know that. Truthfully we're all on borrowed time regardless of which OS we use because there are a lot of concerns regarding hardware (pricing, production and so on). All I'm saying is that me having Linux now would only make my computer experience more miserable and not actually solve any problem I have to solve. I don't have a PC from 2010 or some shit where lagging is a real problem, I don't have any real problems, so what do I need Linux for? At least currently
>>746055616Why did you think moving away from windows 7 was a good idea?
>>746058445You shouldn't see invasive ads either and yet we all do (without any blockers). No company is your friend, you work with what you have and make it good for your own personal use.
>>746058182>$5 TRILLION company still uses the nomodeset band-aid fix because they can't properly write code that makes the graphics card wait with initializing until the system has properly booted
>>746058494>getting infected just as for watching a png or url wrong for 1 second.That's the browser's problem, not the operating system's problem. Why sacrifice control over the OS for security theater. And when was the last time some moron got infected with a png hiding as an exe? Web 1.0 internet is dead in the water with the rise of smartphones.
>>746058445yeah ok but i have always used it, it's genuinely a non issue to make a tiny .reg file or have it from previous windows installs, i understand the point that the os should be more transparent but i don't really see it as a barrier or anything, definitely not worth switch over onto another OS whose developer community is 80% made of trannies and there's anime plastered everywhere.imagine going into a program manager and being greeted by an anime girl lmfao.all of this for what? for not being able to run a .reg? older windows osses had other issues that still required scripts anyway, windows os was and will never be perfect but it it's easy to get around it
Having a 9600x, rtx 4060, what distro Just Works, no bullshit, not a single terminal or .cfg needed to edit. Have it reached that point yet?
>>746058660I dont get any ads on fedora linux unless I connect to the internet. The OS itself should not be serving up ads and you are are true bootlicker for letting them get away with it. Imagine needing a fucking adblocker for your own computer.
>>746058494you won't get hacked for viewing a png lmfao.there once was a big attack via fonts and even then it infected like than 1% of users and it was limited to some apps only.as i said before if you keep your pc updated and use ms apps you're fine.if you do not want to update (rightfully so cause they break shit constantly) use third party apps.if you're scared about a png hacking you, use a third party image viewer which is the way to go since photos app sucks dick
>>746058751>unless I connect to the internet>i don't have to pee unless I drink water
>>746058046Linux has the same problem as other FOSS like replacements for MS Office. It's being made by skilled programmers who should know what's both right and wrong with the original product, and they should be able to keep and fix those things, but they just fucking do neither and make dogshit instead.Linuxtrannies are fucking retards who keep making infinite forks over useless dogshit nobody who actually counts a human instead of a wannabe alien skinwalker gives a single fuck about, instead of just making an OS that actually works. They should've gotten their xir shit together after Windows 7 diead and was followed up by nothing but pure spyware with Pajeetsoft Zogpozz 8, Pajeetsoft Zogpozz 10 and Pajeetsoft Zogpozz 11. Literally just make Linux: Windows 7 Edition that just works how hard can it be.
>>746058747Nobara?
>>746058747Try Fedora KDE on a live usb mess around with, only real terminal you will use is to install whatever browser you want, unless you like Firefox which come by default, steam is on the app thing they have, for player coddecs you jsut download VLC or whatever from the store, but not the fedora one but the flatpackthats' it really
>>746058660Anon, did you forget there weren't any intrusive ads on XP, Vista, or 7 that weren't the user's fault from installing some 3rd party software like google toolbars and shit? I don't have to put up with ads, so I simply don't use modern windows.>No company is your friend, you work with what you have and make it good for your own personal use.Certainly true. Merchants are never trustworthy, merchants were thieves half the time in times now distant but it's still true today.
>>746058930I was talking about youtube ads and all that cancer. I have never seen an ad on Windows itself, granted I'm using the enterprise edition but it's not my problem the goyim aren't smart enough to install it
>>746059020they used to roll ads for their own apps in the start menu and lockscreen, it could be disabled in the settings right away though
>>746058690You're again missing the point. You shouldn't have to do anything like edit .reg files at all. Once upon a time, none of these were necessary. I'm not saying you should switch, you're clearly able to tinker with your PC like a mechanic with their car, but you should keep in mind there were better times on Windows. I don't see a reason not to go back to this kind of ease-of-use, but until the jeets are purged, you should be aware it'll only get worse. You shouldn't knock down the lnuxfags, because they're at least trying to improve no matter what color of vermin they are, while Microsoft needs to pull their shit together.
>>746058747Cachy. It installs the correct Nvidia drivers automatically. In the desktop selection in the installer, pick KDE Plasma for the most feature rich GUI. However, this being nvidia, you're going to lose a couple of frames of performance.
>>746058686>png hidding an exe>>746058796>you won't get hacked for viewing a pngMaybe you're too young, but back in 2005 there was plenty of PNG vulnerabilities that only by loading the image would execute code on your machine. Plenty of these were used to hack psp left and right.One of the recent ones was with webp, (https://www.vicarius.io/vsociety/posts/zero-day-webp-vulnerability-cve-2023-4863) just by loading the image in your browser it makes you run malicious code. Now you will say "but it runs only as the user level because its a browser", but this year alone the number of zero days patched on windows was of 15, plenty of scalation vulnerabilities that can elevate from being a restricted user to administrator. >>746058796Also, I'm advocating to keep updates enabled you moron, did you even read my posts?
>>746058747CachyOS. I would say Nobara, but Nobara is still plagued with updater problems, most of them nvidia-related. It's practically a tradition now.t. Nobara user.
>>746058581It actually can do that. You just need to have Wine or Proton set as the default program for opening .exe files. Same as any other "I want to open this file in that program on double-click" use case.
>>746058891How fucking retarded are you to not understand the difference between the operating system which controls your computer and your hardware and someone elses website that you do not own and have no control over?
>>746057842There is a very clear implication, even if unintentional (from beind retarded).
>>746059312how fucking retarded are you to use a computer and not use internet
>>746058908>>746059276So nobara is shit and>>746059182>>746059276Cachy performance is shit?k. Staying on windows.
>>746059289>You just need to
>>746058930You're complaining about drivers from June 2015?And you're missing that you can just disable notifications from any app you want?
>>746059432For Nvidia users. For AMD, either distro is a godsend because mesa is just that much better than the official drivers. Until Valve throws more money at the open source nvidia driver, you won't really see performance surpassing windows until 5 years later.
>>746059180yeah i get it, but i also get why ms is so aggressive with this kind of stuff (such as win updates)it's because most people can't use their pc for shit, the only way to keep these people from making a mess is to have them updated at all times.it's a necessary evil that mostly hit non-technical users for their own safety.now i can agree that ms updates have been awful, but i'll also try to be honest and every OS had this shit at least from vista and up..now, if you make a security option too easy to disable, it ends up being the equivalent of not having a security options, that's how i see it.the two things that MS has to do to improve the OS image and reputation is to output quality updates and allow users to post pone updates to their liking (withing limits) easily.but generally speaking, the power user doesn't suffer from this (unless there's a critical bug in the OS itself)unfortunately can't have it all, as you know, windows is the easiest gateway for malware because security was never enforced, now MS is going all in with layers of security and they are even flagging their own apps as malwares sometimes due to the database not updating to new hashes.hope you get my point, all this stuff should be gated for the experienced people and not for the random users or they'll end up with a 2 years old un-updated pc that becomes an easy gateway to spread malware or become part of a botnet and shit like that
>>746059432If you use njudea you should keep being a good goy and don't leave the microsoft ecosystem, not even memeing
>>746037169I think the big gacha all actually work on Linux nowGenshin's arguably better since you can still use XXMI for mods instead of the old GIMI.
>>746059382Are you being retarded and disingenous on purpose or are you genuinely just low IQ. I dont get it anon. You own your hardware. You should be able to control whats on it at all times. No one should be able to put ads on your hardware. When you connect to the internet you are connecting to things that other people own. Adblockers are great for removing ads but again they should never be needed for your own fucking machine.
>>746059547No, I'm just sharing an old webm from anons back in the day, it's out of context with my post. Want to see more?
>>746059491Sorry but the goalposts are at "Linux can't do that".
>>746059549>>746059596Well for now, thanks anons
>>746059627youre saying all that in the age of games being sold as licences that can be revoked at any time. short answer: everything is being made to frustrate and steal from you. os having ads is just one tiny part of the whole machine, if you complain about that, you have to complain about million other things because theyre just as bad and often much worsealso its very easy to have windows iwthout any ads whatsoever
>>746059652lmao I love Snatch
>>746059590>but generally speaking, the power user doesn't suffer from thisUnless you happen to be the one guy relatives turn to for troubleshooting. I'm half tempted to install some linux garbage suitable for their garbage usage to shut them up and then tell them to use AI to troubleshoot.
>>746059616It even works for "smaller" gacha games. I'm playing Arknights Endfield (and OG) with no issues on Linux>>746059710Unless until nvidia decides to open their controllers you are getting 10~20% performance penalties on Linux
>>746059547the thread started with some dude harping on linux bugs that were fixed over ten years ago, so why not?
>>746037506Good job exposing all the newfag redditers.
>>746059771>s being sold as licences that can be revoked at any timeThe files are on my pc, i can copy paste them to anywhere and they can never be removed from them. You are a cucked goyim with the mindset that legality makes right. I dont care what the law is when the law is decided by morally bankrupt horrible people.
>>746059215did you count the 0 days of linux (in general) and how much worse they are? literally the most recent one made it to the news for being catastrophic, you think unix systems do not get 0days? kek.also the png vuln has nothing to do in this context.you're making it sound like you're automatically and magically hacked if you use windows, but it's far from it.these points do not work well for the argument.a better argument is "demand better for the price you pay for the OS" which is something i can actually agree with.in regard of ai and shit, the linux kernel is literally about to get flooded by ai slop, so even that point doesn't stand anymore.literally just pick whichever OS works for you use case, in my case compatibility is key and i don't have to beg some tranny to update proton so my games will finally start rendering the terrain
>>746059773>>746059829Windows 10 tan is yandere, 11 is never going to get windows 10 users to migrate.
>>746036705https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXMvl1YlpMk
I'll just install debloated Win 11 in a few years if that's the price I have to pay to avoid troonix
>>746041340paru shows you the changes to package builds when you update with it anyways, people are just lazy
>>746059829OP never mentioned any bug and all the videos posted are from a year back at most
>>746036813letting you breathe because there isn't MS or Apple cock rammed down your throat 24/7
>>746060030I'm not saying windows is worse, for the love or god, READ >>746058052, I'm mocking the user who disabled updates on windows.If I'm advocating updates on windows I would advocate updates on linux too. You're creating a imaginary scenario in your head that wasn't never discussed here.
>>746060030>a better argument is "demand better for the price you pay for the OS" which is something i can actually agree with.Microsoft will never give away Windows for free. They'd rather you pirate it, because then they have potential grounds to sue you for settlements if you're a business owner or collect your data usage for sales statistics and software optimization. But I really wish they gave it away for free officially, it would solve so many PEBKAC problems.
Linux mint plays everything I want to play.Small price to pay for getting rid of Israeli soiware>>746036705Gigachad is only right aboutRed hatFedoraBazziteThese three are Israeli distros that phone home to mossad and are worse than windows
>>746037426I aspire to be like RMShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJUDx7iEJw
>>746054007there is not a single game worth dual booting windows for
>>746059432>Cachy performance is shit?No, just Nvidia.
i have a linux pc and a steam machine, i forget im even using linux sometimes, just werks. its not 2018 anymore fag
>>746036705works fine for me
>>746060327Did you read the quote chain? Original anon is asking for the rtx4060 sherlock.
Just wait a bit then use China's linux distro or harmonyOS when they become available.China will save linux and open source
>>746060192How does one tell if your distro is infested with windows refugees? When you see they don't RTFM. What happened to the AUR was inevitable. So many normalfags shouldn't be using PCs, they should stay on consoles.Also can hiroshimoot lay off with the arch image captchas, I refuse to use Arch.
>>7460373862 more weeks
>>746054621nvidia also just has a 20% performance lost, it's not really a skill issue. the drivers just suck
>DX13 is released>Linux needs 1 year or two to catch upwhat are you guys gonna do when this happens?
>>746036705
>>746060483vulkan and dxvk
>>746060304A lot of people disable updates because of PTSD from windows 10 pushing updates and the farce with the 7 to 10 upgrade that lingers in their memory. It's not really a good habit for the masses and Microsoft shouldn't have been so aggressive with what amounts to an upsales tactic.
I've got so many files i want to keep on windows, until there is way to easily transfer them to a linux distro that's not aids I'm sticking to win10
>>746060483>DX13 is releasedi don't see DX13 being stable on release (or maybe some CEO of autismo will release some proton version that works better than native Windows DX13)
>>746060052
>>746060483I play old games, so I'll be doing the same thing I always do.
>>746060482But everything else works like fake frames, this is the important part some people forget. AI is better on Nvidia, so you see linux users with Nvidia GPUs.
>>746060482The drivers for running AI work great. You're just using nvidia AI accelerators for incorrect purpose which isn't supported anymore.
>>746060736people who actually knows this doesn't ask on 4chan if linux works for them, they already are on linux
damn, the retard on the right skipped leg AND torso day
>>746060483>DX13 is releasednightmare fuel
>>746060403Yes, and? He asked if Cachy performance is shit, not if Nvidia performance is shit.
>>746060709Huh, never saw that before. Saved.
>>746060868But it works fine on windows so its not nvidia fault but cachy/linux community as a whole
>>746060430>I refuse to use Archit's so comfy though
>>746060856i gotta agree (i'm on windows and i fear this too)
>>746060919Intel and AMD works perfectly on Windows/Linux so it's nvidia fault
>>746060709>>746060878my favorite new windows bug is when most of the shell stops taking keyboard input for no real reason
>>746060939INSTALL GENTOOIf you can't RTFM, install arch btw.
>updates are le bad because... because they just are okay?!? you have to disable all updates ever!!! new thing bad!!!Why are linuxfags like this?
>>746050074This one is kino they should bring it back
>>746061019i don't want to compile everything from source though i have no desire for that, and using binaries on gentoo just feels wrong
>>746061031if you are gaming on linux you benefit more from being on a rolling release distro than not, so updating is actually good.
>>746061000And for poorfags, AMD GPUs are going to get more lifespan with the 7.3 kernel update. Those almost burned out rx580s and rx480s and even your ancient 290s are going to get new life breathed upon them thanks to Valve doing the work. Less e-waste is good all around.
>>746061000It works well on windows so the odd out its linux.
>>746061031>t. Windows 10 user
>>746061193>AMD works fine on Windows and Linux>Intel works fine on Windows and Linux>Nvidia only works fine on linuxi'm nooticing
Is steam desktop OS any good yet?
>>746056238Uoh
>>746061031Update to windows 11. Or be an XP or Win7 style holdout. Just don't laugh at them, you're all on the same boat.
>>746061284>Nvidia only works fine on linuxSo its all good? ok
>>746061286why are you waiting for steamOS to be desktop ready when cachyOS and arch are literally right there, it's the same fucking thing
>>746061286nailed it desu, i have a SM and also have steamos installed on my amd 9070xt build, shit just works.
good morning saar 1 rupee has been deposited in your microsoft account
>>746060878I have more
>>746061286Valve has a disclaimer out that basically tells people (read: normalfags) this is not meant to be a replacement for a desktop OS, by which they're implying to Microsoft not to be trigger happy and panic themselves into GFWL 2.0 or sending mercs to Seattle. Just like how webm4retards exist, so does SteamOS. Yes, it's ready. But not for Nvidia.
>>746061453
>>746049849If you are new on linux avoid arch or cachy garbage
>>746061532Can't forget about pride ads in the start menu.
>>746061453I remember this one.>>746061532The linux equivalent of this PEBKAC is the Garuda Indian dev deleting everyone's /home after pushing an update. Bonus: a fucking leaf apologized for him.
>>746061373Post desktop and fastfetch for collection.
>>746036705I'm sort of reaching the age where I feel like PC is garbage for gaming outside of emulation.
>>746061415saars linax system best bloody benchod
>>746061701Fucking christ, never let indians have any responsibility.
>>746061767>line methodbaka senpai
>>746061803>Picevery time I see this pic, it feels like a compilation, but it’s actually just one screenshot lol
>>746061771More like new games are trash, especially when Unreal Engine keeps being used by developers that shouldn't even be making games in the first place.
>>746058581>why can't an OS can't open executables from a different OS
>>746062013
>>746061974Probremu, kouhai?
>>746039665>Emacswho gives a shit about Emacs?his actual greatest work is GNU and GCC
>>746036705Windows 11 > all>Why?It's easier
>>746061803I don't mind Indians, but they have to pass a competency test in a room without any access to the internet. Sure most will fail and cry to their mothers, but that's the price to pay to separate the sheep from the pajeet.t. welsh
>itt: poors and uncs
>>746036705works on my machine.
>>746062328A FUCKING CHEESE GRATERINFERIOR DESIGN TO THE CLASSIC IMACINTO THE TRASH
>>746055320>windows actively fucks over your linux install if you don't manage it right.Maybe. I don't dual-boot anyways, I have a gaming pc with windows for gaming and a laptop with linux for everything else.
>>746062605I don't even have that service on 11
>>746062784Congratulations, you have a working brain. That telemetry shit got so many retards angry back in the day instead of doing something about it.
>>746063038Its a clean, unmodified install
>>746055320>spend 6 hours unfucking their computerBut enough about Microsoft Windows.
>>746063145>clean>opera faggotno
>>746060252Why are linux users obsessed with gay sex?
does it get any more endgame than Gentoo?
>>746064194Yeah, LFS.
>>746036705Lads, I'm planning on building a PC with either a 9800x3d or 9900x3d and a 9070XT. Do I take the linux pill? Would like be going Fedora.
>>746064440don't get the 9900x3dit's 6+6 cores, it sucks, either take the 16 or the 8 core, they have full 8 cores per ccd
>>746064194GNU Guix System>>746064407>LFSMeme. Even more so after they deprecated sysvinit for systemd.
>>746064608If you can't figure out how to replace systemd with sysvinit in LFS of all things then you shouldn't be calling anything meme except yourself.
>>746036813Programming
>tfw moved away from windows to babies first linux osIt's a step forward, I can't find the complaints about Windows being superior to be valid for me, perhaps I play shitty games that run better on Linux or something.
>>746061771It is, that's why Sony can get away with removing physical games and Nintendo can charge $90 for the worst Mario Kart ever made.
>>746064585The 9950X3D2 is the one with 16 cores right?What benefit does it have with the CCD setup? I've also heard of people locking applications to cores with the x3d cache, but shouldn't that be all of them?
>>746065030no, without the 2, there's no point to dual v cache, just a 9950x3d it means that you can have 8 cores doing a workload at lower latency instead of just 6if something has to jump to the other core complex latency goes up and performance goes down
>>746065152Right ok I see, so it varies how performant the 'groups' of cores are on each CCD, and if it has to change which performance profile it's using for each group, it creates a stutter? Alright I see.I'll probably just go for the 9800x3d then. I was half tempted by the 9900x3d for 'future proofing.'
>>746065152Surely the Linux 7.2 cache aware scheduler fixes this, right?
>>746036705>When did you realize Linux was fucking garbage for gamingI didn't. Because all my single player games are running, all my emulators just werk and I'm playing Deadlock and Path of Exile 2 online. And I'm playing Marvel Rivals from time to time with console cuck frens.I love linux, even my Steam Deck runs Gnu/Linux.
>>746064683Why the fuck would you know if you are reading LFS? Do you even know the difference between sysvinit and systemd? They are nothing alike.
>>746065279it means that your low latency multicore performance is worse which can affect vidyafor gaming purposes you essentially have 6 cores>>746065303there's nothing to fix here, it's a limitation of the silicon itself
>>746065464Yeah, I'll probably just stick to the 9800x3d.It's been a while since I've used linux (other than SteamOS), but it seems like Fedora is a nice middle ground. Just hoping I don't regret my choices and end up in driver purgatory with the 9070XT after crawling back to windows.
>>746065409>deadlock>path of exile 2>marvel rivalsso thats the average linuxfag
>>746065464>Screduling which CCD a program runs on is a limitations of the siliconAnon....
>>746065627>so thats the average linuxfagYeah, when it comes to recent online games. I also enjoy FromSoft, Fighting Games and OSRS
>switched to linux and haven't gone back to windows in 6 months (i dual boot it)name a more iconic sentence from the linux communitylollmao even
>>7460644409800x3D for sure. And i have the exact same build as you. Do I recommend linux? As someone who did distro hop between Bazzite and Cachyos for almost this whole year so far. I don't recommend it at all. I feel like Linux is getting there to being a good viable option. But for my personal experiences on being PC gaming since I was a child. I feel like Linux currently feels more like generic brand , extra steps and extra complications. I do agree it has got better through out the years. Significantly way better in regards of running software and gamesOverall if you just want it running straight off the bat , no worries about bullshit and easier to DYI to fix your problems. Windows 10-11. You don't want Microsoft having your info , avoiding all the bullshit at setting up your PC when you first install the OS, more freedom of tracking and customize your desktop, Linux. Linux is good. I can't say it's very good OR near perfect. you're going to run into a technical issue that's very specific . I ran into a few and had to wait a while for some help to teach me. But overall I would say it's a decent alternative for windows 11You're going to have to experiment and see if you do like it or not. I didn't and I switched back last month to windows 11.
I'm genuinely shocked people still game on Windows.
>>746065742schedulers don't have any problems with Ryzen CPUs, they've done this since zen2workloads aren't going to be jumping CCDs but that 6 core per ccd limitation can absolutely come into play>>746065580nah, you shouldn't have any issues people suck off mesa for a reason, you can update daily and revert to earlier snapshots on a whim if you ever see any issues
>>746065446If you learn how systemd works and how you build a system around it, you are also capable of figuring out how sysvinit works and how to build a system around that.You can use whatever the fuck init you want or make your own. LFS is a book that teaches you to build a linux system. You're a meme if you need step by step instructions like a lego to build your OS and can't apply lessons learned to customize it. Talking about some kind of "endgame" while being a beginner is completely pointless.Not that I think "endgame distro" is actually any kind of meaningful term, unless you define it as "the distro I'm going to stick with" and that could be anything based on who you're talking to. The person who brought it up clearly isn't defining it like that. He's just doing the "I use arch btw" thing with Gentoo.
>>746065580>end up in driver purgatory with the 9070XTDon't do anything stupid then like thinking you have to install the AMD driver when the open source one everyone is using for gaming is already baked into the kernel.
>>746037506based bait
>>746065927>name a more iconic sentence from the linux communityI'm on Gnu/Linux since the Steam Deck release, I switched to Fedora on my desktop soon after.
>>746065952Ouch, well that's damning. My whole reason for wanting to jump ship is because MS, much like the W8 days, have latched onto a 'new direction' and are half heartedly forcing it into everything. I'm on W11 at the moment, running LTSC IOT. It's weird having the taskbar unable to decide if it's rendering in front of a window or behind it. The start menu/search randomly breaks. The context menu is shit. It's just, poor.>>746065971>people suck off mesa for a reason, you can update daily and revert to earlier snapshots on a whim if you ever see any issuesMESA is fine, but what I've heard isn't, is Windows' handling of AMD drivers, where it'll randomly install an old version from the windows repo, breaking your current driver installation.
>>746060084kys music blog fag, i see you randomly post and it makes me irrationally angry
>>746037319Extremely based, great nuance with the Fagbook, they just make sense for work (if your job allows it) and there is no reason to run spyware on a private machine, so good cool for banning winjeet.
>>746066147>windows handling of AMD driversDriver? What driver? There's no driver in the car.Memes aside, it's getting to the point that AMD is tired of maintaining their official drivers they're letting Valve and others port the mesa driver over.
>>746066239So the MESA driver is coming to Windows? I don't even know how that'd work. I'm not keen to go Nvidia because they always cripple their own cards deliberately, but fuck...
>>746037506Posts like this are why I've been here against my better judgement for over 16 years.
>>746066315Yes, there is an attempt, but you won't see it any time soon.
>>746037506They did not like this one boss
>>746065986>If you learn how systemd works and how you build a system around it, you are also capable of figuring out how sysvinit worksNo, retard. You don't even know what you don't know. Don't lecture me, you weren't even born when the systemd shitshow began.
>>746066585I don't give a fuck about your politics flavored seething. I also don't care whether you prefer GNU Shepherd, SystemD or OpenRC.LFS is a book that teaches you to build a linux system from scratch. The older version based on SysVInit is still available. The point of that book is to teach you something. You can learn from it regardless of whether it uses systemd or whatever else. LFS is not even a distro, it's a concept. The concept of making your own distro from scratch.
>>746037506Bait posts like this are diamond dozen these days.
>>746066883>I don't give a fuck about your politicsYeah, I know. You are obviously a recent jeetdows refugee that doesn't care about unix or free software.
>>746036705it needs the gaming stone to be formidable
>>746056990>they were hobbyists playing computer who couldn't care less about the gameNo, I was good at Counter Strike
>>746067305Maybe you should refrain from replying when all you can muster is the equivalent of smelling your own farts, unless your explicit goal is to make as few people as possible care about whatever you're advocating for. Seems likely.
>>746036705This. VM with GPU passthrough is much better.
>>746037319apple is the ultimate jeetware tho
>Yeah, I know. You are obviously a recent jeetdows refugee that doesn't care about unix or free software.
>native linux games run on xwayland fucking why
>>746069268It would be hard to tell all the old developers to migrate to wayland. Proton is nice that it's modular like that.
Windows is israeli coded
>>746067817Using linux is giga doe
>>746036705From the POV of someone who doesn't understand computers and only wants to play games. Niche or mainstream it doesn't matter:>windows>have a problem >search <problem> online >1000 other retards have had your problems and found a solution thanks to critical mass>Linux distro #39282619>have a problem>search <problem>>RTFM replies, even the most popular distro users never played the game you're currently trying to run so there's no one who faced your <problem>>forced to ask LLMs (50/50 chance of solving your issue or even making it worse getting you a new <problem>)
>>746055320>Linux isn't garbage for gaming per se, it's just garbage for everything in general.It's about time. Someone needed to say it.Linux is shit. For privacy? You put up with all that bullshit just for privacy? What kind of shit are you doing on that linux pc that you are so in need of privacy? Most people couldn't give a shit if google wants to know what brand of socks I just bought or that I just posted to an Asmongold social media site or that I just downloaded music or that I played video games on Steam for the last two hours or that I sent an email to my mom asking her to email me a recipe for those cookies she made last year or the collection of photos I took at my brother's graduation ceremony. Most people do mundane things on their pc. Privacy for that? For what purpose? Give me an operating system that just works, that doesn't implode just because I updated one driver, that doesn't complain and refuses to run a new updated version of a program, that consistently runs all my games. Oops, this game doesn't work. Wait, let me spend the next seven hours trying to diagnose and remedy the problem only to break more things in the process. Ahh, the linux experience. Fuck outta here with that shit. Stop looking at child porn you weirdo pervert and get yourself an operating system that just works.
>>746057178You fagit. It's always something with linux. Always. It's a constant battle to fix what is broken and then have to fix something that broke due to fixing the previous broken thing.Fuck off.
>>746072092oh that's what I have why aren't I affected? why do you always regurgitate and can't reproduce those bugs here and now?
>>746056990>the point of the operating system is to get the fuck out of the way and let me use my programs>proponents of linux, the delusional retards, are constantly going "damn I'm such a fucking genuis for figuring this out", it's WILD how much of their ego is welded to this tedium = smarter beliefholy fucking based and 100% spot on
Windows is extremely convenient. I don’t need to waste time learning how to code or how the operating system works, it just works, and it works well and immediately for work, hobbies, and entertainment. That said, if windows were ever to become openly intrusive in the sense that it begins marking my illustrations with hidden watermarks etc. I would swap to Linux and do everything the hard way purely on principle, but as of now I see nothing but a timesink when looking at Linux. Nobody has ever given me a good answer on why I should learn computers or how
>>746067713nah they got a native android jeetware, we know jeets are all in on the android/google economy to suck some kike cock.
>>746072092Not a single repro, anon.
>>746072707just get a mac and pay photoshop up the ass or whatever cheap art software is out there if you don't like fiddling with computers. that's essentially the reason why mac exists.
>>746036705shitjak memeshitjak opinioni game every day on CachyOS, maybe you're just stupid.
>>746062474Reminds me of when my son poured grandma into his xbox
>wahh windows sucks>wahh linux sucks>wahh mac sucksSkill issue at every angle. I dual boot linux as a daily driver, windows for when I want to lock into vidya (yes, I play competitive games because I'm not a geriatric boomer casualfag), and mac for work. Only people who can't afford multiple computers or even drives for specific use cases and are forced to use one or the other complain about this shit.
>>746071675There aren't 39282619 ways to run games on Linux everyone is using the same toolset and most distros are largely similar. Everyone uses ProtonDB and the Arch wiki to pool info. Noobs usually stop distrohopping when they realize this. Fedora is just blue Ubuntu that doesn't have snaps and Arch is just blue Debian that updates fast instead of updating slow. Unless you use weird shit like Gentoo you can "learn" a new distro on the first day of using it and get all of the same programs and everything works the same.
>>746074251anyone who can't into a tool can consider themselves filtered
>>746038421Is this only for AI-generation or everything saved period?
>>746037506Based post
It's funny how mindbroken the jeets get as more and more people and governments ditch windows. Let that be a lesson, you can't just replace white people with jeets and expect things to work.
>>746060430is this vm + pci passthrough or some newer tech?
>>746060317is there any truth to this or was anon a schizo? i use fedora cause it just works for me the best...
I'm thinking of making the switch to Linux purely because I'm tired of being a Windows sysadmin and if I learn Linux at home I have a better shot of jumping into our Linux team and being put on the RHCSA courses when a position opens up. We use RHEL so I guess it makes sense to install Fedora at home, but I've heard Cachy is a lot better for gaming which is all I use my PC for. I'll probably end up running a RHEL VM for practice anyway, but will I lose a lot of natural learning opportunities running Cachy over Fedora? I really have no idea how significantly the various distributions actually differ.
>>746074706Linux is pozzed
>>746075113>Linux is *buzzword*case in point
>>746075147I am not wrong tho
>>746075078since you want to do this for a living you should install both, it'll help you understand the significant differences between distros better.
>>746075113Windows is pozzed
>>746075078They both come ready for end-user, unlike something like Arch without archinstall or LFS. Linux Bible by Negus is supposed to be the RHEL admin guide, but I didn't like it much, my recommendation is this.
>>746075078>We use RHEL so I guess it makes sense to install Fedora at homeUse Fedora, your work company already knows it, so it'll come in handy. Just make sure to enable 3rd party repos like rpmfusion in the welcome screen or whatever you call it, you'll need it for copyrighted media playback. It didn't use to be this way but they separated it so they don't get targeted by other corporations. If you have all AMD hardware, try Nobara, it's Fedora but tweaked for gaming. The maintainer is a RHEL employee and in charge of Proton-GE a fork of Valve's Proton. Make sure to read the documentation about updates on site because the one problem with this distro is updates, you can't use fedora's way of system updates because of what amounts to de-syncing with existing software.
>>746075078There isn't actually any huge difference in gaming on Cachy compared to most other distros. At best, it's single-percent improvements and somewhat better 1% lows. Most of its appeal is in being already set up for most people alongside the kernel tweaks, though you can use its kernel on base arch or fedora as well if you really want to anyway.If you want to learn how to use Arch then you can use that, or even install Arch and set it up yourself, otherwise Fedora seems to fit your goals better on top of being a solid daily driver on its own.t. Cachy user. I'd hop to Fedora myself but I'm too lazy to set everything up again.
>>746075392Trannies prefer linux over windows. Only chuds use windows.
>>746075052Anon, Fedora is a RHEL product, and RHEL is now a subsidiary of IBM. IBM is the monster that unleashed Microsoft. While they might not phone home, they're pure corporate compared to something like Arch which is more like everyone's, including corps', collective hobby OS. No one directly owns Arch.
whats the best way to get steam workshop mods without using steam?
>>746075654Im NTA and I get the hesitation to use fedora because of IBM. The day that IBM decides to ruin fedora in any way shape or form with enshittification or telemetry shit, I will stop using it. For now, its great, they havent ruined it, and there is no reason to think they will.
>>746074756You nailed it. This is old technology.
>>746075679There was a website that lets you browse and download them, forgot the name.
>>746075752They're not about to, RHEL is probably of some importance to IBM since they're keen on losing money building data centers right now and need all the technicians and engineers they can get.
>>746037506The word was being used 20 years ago before this "12 year old" was even born, old phrases get revived as the new fotm all the time, it was literally the same with "cringe".Deal with it.
>>746076076No it wasn't, the current iteration of "slop" comes from forced goyslop meme.
>>746051258Owning up to your own mistakes is a very hard thing to do and is very commendable, cheers anon.
>>746076357People who cant own up to their mistakes will forever be stunted emotionally.
>>746076357It also indicates that you're white.
>>746076303No, the word "slop" is not some newly invented word anon. You can call it goyslop, pigslop, it doesn't matter.Have some board-ontopic proof.https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Crazy_WolfgangFallout 3 came out in 2008 and the word is casually being used there, your 12-year-old literally wasn't born yet.
>>746076303There isn't a better term for shit that is served for the working class than goyslop, it's as close to its true nature as it could be
>>746036705so smart people use garbage?
>>746076910kekkus maximus
>>746076910Trannies are smart?
tired of winblows, switching to linux no matter what. how's proton these days?
>>746077410Valve is doing good work and attracting other contractors to pitch in, so nothing to hora about. There's always good news on linux, pic related.
>>746077410Same as it has been for a past couple of years, with minor video codec support improvements. As in, it plays most games that don't have mandatory kernel malware, with GE variant for odd games that have issues and DW variant for gachas.
>Linux users have a plethora of operating systems to choose from>"Smart people" can only choose garbage
>>746040032Thats a big build
>>746077789for you
>>746037506You sir have won the thread, congrats.
>>746077565>>746077595fantastic news, cheers lads.>randomly start getting periods of worse game performance last october>check task manager, see it's windows trying to update with no notification or anything at all, just randomly starts in the background with no way to stop it>k, well hopefully it'll finish and it won't be a problem>update fails>repeat every day for weeks>ok wtf, look for fixes>the fix is fucked, would take all day>don't have all day, just put it off (this is where i fucked up, yes i know)>fast forward to july>these failed updates are causing hard crashes more and more>constantly having to reinstall corrupted drivers caused by pc crashes during background updates>eventually SSD starts having boot problems>throw mint on a thumbdrive and boot with that, runs great>SSD dies before i can install the OS to it>tired of it all, just pull the trigger on a brand new prebuiltarrives on thursday. can't wait to be free bros.
For better or worse, epic games store is supposed to launch on Linux soon
>>746078017>prebuiltYou might as well buy the overpriced Steam Machine. I don't think you know what you're getting yourself into, all you had to do was replace your SSD with a new one, reinstall windows or mint on it, and then re-use your current PC. Are you looking for an excuse to buy something new?
>>746078468Not a problem. I wish Timmy all the best, he has big shoes to fill. And maybe this time be less of an egomaniac.
>>746078536>all you had to do was replace your SSD with a new onei know. i wanted to upgrade from my 7 year old build anyway, i was just waiting for an excuse.went prebuilt because i don't find the research fun anymore. i want to check out and not have to worry about any of this shit anymore. i want a just werks box that i can game on after work, not a second job.
>>746078642Then make sure to get an all AMD build. Nvidia has a known perf loss due to their official drivers being used for AI on linux and the open source one is basically on the level of getting started up again.
>>746050395aquajeet confirmed as a windows userwinjeet is real
>>746078781I am white with green eye genes but yes. I use the best OS obviously. I actually get to enjoy my life unlike you linux cucks.
>>746078746it's fucking over, i boughted a 5080
>>746078986dont listen to that retard. nvidia has worked good for gaming for the last 6 years
>>746078986If you consistently hit your monitor's refresh rate or your target rate while gaming, you have nothing to worry about.>>746079024But it's true that Nvidia is focused on AI right now. They don't have time to deal with gaming.
>>746079109don't try backpedaling now, jeet. you lied>Nvidia has a known perf loss due
Windows is the most widely used consumer operating system in the world if you are really having constant issues with it you are of below average intelligence
>>746079207Thanks for admitting that Nvidia is overly focused on AI AND THUS DOESN'T CARE ABOUT GAYMEN. Dumb gweilo.
>>746079449It's a heavy dogshit OS that's made to spy and steal information from the user.Also made by Indians. You are below average intelligence if you can't install Linux and free yourself from the poo shackles. Same jeets you laugh at every day make money every day when you use Windows. But alas you are probably a zoomer or a nigger, you will always be below average.
>>746079548>says i lied>haha he agrees with mesaaaaaaaar
>>746079449Windows is the most widely used desktop operating system in the world because it encourages and mandates behaviors pursued by those of below average intelligence, bringing it into conflict with enlightened higher beings, so often you're just not stupid enough to use Windows.Its dominance can also be attributed to its status as a default OS, its various licensing agreements with OEMs and the international sanctions and laws it lobbied for to kill rival operating systems.
>>746075078Testing out Linux distributions is actually a lot easier than people think.You can buy a decently sized USB drive and install Ventoy on it. Ventoy can be used to store multiple Linux installation ISOs. You can then use them to install distributions on another USB or an external ssd and just run Linux off that.
I'll switch to Linux if they start shipping it with a lewd Konqi desktop pet
Can I get a quick rundown on Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC?That's what I'm running right now. Does it still spy on you and stuff?
cachyfag herehow often should I actually be updating? pacman just werks so I usually run the cachyos updater every time I turn my PC on for the day since rebooting takes like a minute at mostShould I bother swapping to flatpak chrome instead of AUR chrome? I read about all the malware but I've been checking the diffs that get listed in the updater every time and it seems safeI only have like 3 other AUR packages that don't have any other equivalent and they all seem fine too
>>746079779what do you think?
>china drops windows because they think the jeetification of it is too severe>all of a sudden massive amounts of WINDOWS GOOD LINUX BAD threadsI see
>>746079817>how often should I actually be updating?Whatever you're comfortable with. There's no M$ hounding you to update all the time.>chromeFlatpak that shit immediately. My hatred of google is only second to microsoft.
>>746079902Yet chinese gamers still use windows and consistently fuck up steam stats.
>>746058581It can, and it's exactly the behavior you get after installing Wine on most distributions
>>746080031but the aur version is so clean and convenient I don't want to have to redo everything if I uninstall iteeehhhhhhh
>>746058581>uhhhhh it can, actually?? :)>oh but you need to install winflo blimblo first>if that doesn't work you need to tweak metastatic service settings, happens sometimes yeah>didn't work either? I heard some people have to install pergamon-ng as well, don't forget to get the winflo compatibility later for it >if all else fails you should try winwinger assistant, it's fool proof >still no? well it worked for me :)
>>746079756you can basically do that with AI
>>746037180KEK
>>746037506>all these newfags who took the baitKEK
>>746037506>>slop>Stopped reading there.trolling is a art...
>>746081943To this day, that grammatical mistake still rustles me. Damn it.
>>746079609>>746079671Right so you are too stupid to use something that 99% of the world uses without running in to constant issues thanks for confirming
>>746080031>Whatever you're comfortable withThis is bullshit and you know it.
>>746082275You're in control of your PC, you decide when to update. Not updating will have consequences obviously, but the choice is yours. And there are anons out there that treat a rolling release distro like it's stable by only updating once a year.
>>746079817>AUR chromewtf, is chrome not in arch repos? Chromium?
>>746038836AUR is the User Repository which means it's 3rd party. No different than downloading a random executable without performing scans or checking what the .bat file does.
>>746037506I kneel
>>746082670ungoogled chromium is but not actual chrome
>>746079779>Does it still spy on you and stuff?Take a guess, Anon.
>>746060638Can you not just put them on a storage drive...?
Honest question: what's the difference between ameriniggers and jeets? Both>have brown skin>smell like shit>suffer from severe deformities>are unapologetic cowards>defecate in the open>can't speak proper english>love kikes>love scamming>blame other brownoids for their own faults, despite said brownoids being undistinguishable from them (pakis/mexicans)And I could continue.
>>746057498>Win10 is EOLLTSC, and even then, who the fuck cares? You don't need le security updates weekly, I've used windows versions with blocked updates for years, actual years, and I never had a single virus or issue, because general security features are already robust enough for every usual threat, and I don't download sketchy shit from russian or chinese websites. It's hilarious how tech-illiterate the linuxtards can be, they're still stuck in 2007 thinking any website with javascript is going to instantly infect them unless they've got the latest security update from 2 hours ago.
>>746074706What was the spike in march?
>>746071676>What kind of shit are you doing on that linux pc that you are so in need of privacy?I know you are a pajeet working for Pajeetsoft for $1 a month to make inflammatory comments about their competition. But you cannot, after Copilot was caught scanning personal files, say that privacy is only for criminals. Go fuck yourself, your employers and your garbage OS.
>>746084303cachyos shilling
Troonixsaars....
>>746085257
Linux is fucking shit and I hate it. But Windows has become so unbearable that even dealing with Linux's bullshit is more appealing.I wish I could upgrade to Windows 7 but nothing works on it anymore.
>>746079207He's right about that, you lose maybe 20% or so.on Linux. Although in my opinion the performance loss isn't a problem, the driver bugs are. Nvidia always takes forever to fix anything on Linux, and the bugs aren't fun either.
I haven't. The games I play work on it just fine.I like using an os that doesn't try to sell me shit at every turn.
>>746085540Honestly I can get behind this, just having machines write some machine-only-readable schizo language like rust that has some degree of safety guaranteed by design might be the future of programming.
Linux is fucking garbage for CAD/CAM software so for me I consider it a subhuman thing.
>/v/ - videogames>saar don't use linux bloody bad for CAD
>>746088035Good, so we agree it's shit for gaming and shit for CAD/CAM
>>746088143>program that doesn't run on linux is..........le bad
>>746088232Yes linux is bad because it can't emulate windows 100% yet. Maybe in another decade we get there.
>>746088543what programs / games are you trying to run on linux that isn't working?essentially all games run via proton nowadays
When Mint uninstalled my driver monitor and made it unusableFuck Linux
>>746036705why are Americans so proud of being ignorant morons?
>>746089413It's just jews.
>>746089350 hahahah >uninstall monitor>u sure retard>yesHOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME
>>746037426believing in picture is why operating systems will make you put in your age on account creation and will one day turn into ID checks
>>746038836but KolorPaint came native on my install
>>746037506why would you samefag such a bland post
>>746055320>Yeah and it's a pain in the ass (which you can't acknowledge because you're an unempathetic moron), and windows actively fucks over your linux install if you don't manage it right.I'd say if you struggle with dual boot then you are the moron
>>746037660>it now run flawlessly!>actually it doesn't
>>746036705it's over.
cattle love having opinions on movies they didn't watch, games they didn't play & OS they didn't try
