Chances of Sentinel failing and people collectively going back to Skyrim/Morrowind?
90%
100%people will never stop playing Skyrimboomers will never move on from Morrowind
>>746042163Both of those are me
>>746041962Define failing.Is it gonna be an unfun hot garbage shitheap of a game full of bugs virtually unplayable on launch? 99% certaintyIs it gonna break all the previous records and be the fastest selling Bethesda game to date bringing in infinite quadrillions of $ because the consumer goys can't help themselves?100% certaintySo you tell me, is it gonna fail or not?
>>746041962It will be exactly like Starfield, most sane people will agree it's shit but there will be a loud minority of people who will praise it despite being worse than skyrim in every possible metric.Also they will have picrel for sure
>>746043558Sentinel will shake up the whole foundation of TES and make everyone drop Skyrim and Morrowind and go back to Oblivion
>>746041962close to 100%
>>746041962What will Skyrim-in-Sentinel project be called? Sentrim?
i hope and pray to god it is a better platform than skyrimskyrim is propped up by an intricate web of literally hundreds of delicate reliant mods, mostly unsupportedbethesda loves to come in every few months with a wrecking ball and nuke the fucking nexus mods website just for funmodding skyrim is such a fucking headache, and it is getting to be as bad as managing versions with minecraft, finding specific mods for specific versions, testing compatabilities, etc
>>746044175>bethesda loves to come in every few months with a wrecking ball and nuke the fucking nexus mods website just for funthey just released a patch to Skyrim last week and fags on reddit are crying
>>746043558This. It will just be like Starfield. Goyim will slurp it up and buy it en masse. It will then break sales record and be profitable early on. Then reviews will come, a few dickriders will say it's a masterpiece but most people would say it's trash and make bug/trash story/dialouge compilations. People's opinions would sour on the game while retaining a few brain dead people hardcore defending the game. Long term sales will fell flat and DLC would be met with lackluster sales/harsh criticism for not saving the game.
It's amazing the seethe that Oblivion causes
>>746044175>bethesda loves to come in every few months with a wrecking ball and nuke the fucking nexus mods website just for funthat's never happened you retard
>>746044551Oblivion is the comfiest
>>746044676that happened LAST WEEK you fucking moronthey updated the steam version of the game to 1.7.99 and it caused half of every library mod to stop workingskse broke, physics mods broke, most of every scripting mod broke, basically all combat mods broke, most UI mods broke
>>746044686Remake is garbage and the original is a jankfest with terribly outdated mods, there's nothing comfy about it.
>>746044793how does that impact the nexus mods website? you fucking moron
>>746044793Literal non-issue since you can just revert it for your modded setup. Only retards who don't use a separate MO2 instance suffered and they should suffer for being retards.
>>746041962Skyrim is gonna be 20! years old by the time Sentinel comes out, Skyrim itself will be an unc game by that point
>>746044930any game older than 10 years is retro
>>746044793Updates don't break nexus you freak and if you're too retarded to set your file path to Read Only, then that's a (You) problem
>>746044838>hurr durr nexus mods didnt go down>only every fucking thing you get from it broke overnightretardcreation club never has issues with game updates because they arent building on anything that needs the off client scripting, its always left untouchednexus mods (and other 3rd party websites) are the effected oneswhy are you supporting them coming in and breaking shit for no reason but to push paid mods?are you an unironic paid shill?
>>746045023you do know nexus mods hosts much more than skyrim, right?rightfully calling you a retard doesn't mean I'm defending them, you're just plain wrong
>>746044175>>746044391Just don't patch your game then?
>>746045121He's too retarded for that, anon. Probably uses Vortex too lmao.
>>746044175>"oh no bethesda keeps updating the game and breaking my setup">keep installing said updates>cry when the setup breaksare you retarded? why are you updating ever time when you KNOW it will break?
>>746044175Umm, do you seriously not play on 1.5.9.7?
>>746041962100% because they chose a place full of niggers. Why make a game full of niggers when 99% of the playerbase are going to be whites is beyond me. At least I can play as a Breton, Nord or Imperial and kill all the redguards but I can do that in morrowind too so it isn't a big improvement
>>746045275Funniest part is that now with the Besthesda Launcher gone, you can manually downgrade the updates through the Steam Depots.People who complain about the update aren't looking for solutions.
>>746044551>>746044686Name one oblivion mod that can compete with skyrim mods or tamriel rebuilt
>>746045381Niggers in TES are the only based race everyone else is fucking retarded or enslaved
>>746045560nice try morrowtroon, but morrowind will never be as good as skyrim
>>74604196275%
People cried, shit and came in their pants when a fuck awful Oblivion remake got released, people will name their children after this thing and make posts where they act like their in a religious ferver once a new Elder Scrolls comes out, even if its worse than Skyrim.
>>746045659>will never be as good as skyrimMorrowind is older than skyrim retarded ESL jeet
>>746045381chuds are such snowflakes
>>746045560Skyblivion
>>746045779so you concede my point, thanks
>>746045840No I just wanted to point out how retarded and brown you are. Retards and shitkins never have valid takes
>>746045750And it was almost entirely uncs soiying out about it too, Oblivion remake didn't bring in any new fans
>>746041962100%. Look at Oblivion Rejeeted
>>746045918it was not a question, you conceded
>>746044551Too white for morrowjeets, too colorful for skybabbies.
>>746046078At least take a screenshot when it's not fucking overcast
>>746046078I am curious how many hours you have in oblivion? What exactly is unique about your ss? What do you there? Are there any npcs which give quests?
>>746041962Why is /v/ so desperate for another TORtanic?
>>746046045Look at this delusional freak and laugh. No idea what your trying to prove by pretending most players arent mindless consumer zombies who would castrate themselves if it means they access to the latest big thing.
>>746043558>>746041962There is a 0% chance it wont be better than skyrim.In terms of RPG elements Starfield was the best game since Morrowind. the problem was their menus, loading screens, and proc gen content. Bethesda is obviously going to learn their lessons going forward. As to how well it is received by the more hardcore gamer type gamers, I dont think bethesda is good at designing gameplay that feels very rewarding to the more mechanically oriented type of person or anyone who puts in bear minimum effort into minmaxing their skills. You are going to need to tweak difficulty settings quite a bit and maybe even use some mods to fix things, just like skyrim or starfield.I mean the vanilla kill cams are anti gameplay story game mode feature for people who play on easy mode and you need a mod to fix them or take them out to not get forced into a cutscene where your character dies, unless you play a very specific way. Bethesda having them in the way they do is a clear sign that they dont balance their games around engaging gameplay for the "hardcore gamer" type people and they balance their games around the walking sim gamer mom/dad type people. Which is a mistake, because its much easier to please those people with simply changing damage/hp % around, where as making actually engaging gameplay for hardcore gamers requires more attention to mechanics and simply changing % numbers around does not work for that type of gameplay if the mechanics are not well thought out.
>>746044175it wont be, it will be worse. and the modding community for this game will be dead like starfield. bethesda has done good chasing away their modding community over the years
>>746046504>players arent mindless consumer zombies who would castrate themselves if it means they access to the latest big thingI don't I only play older games since I know all news games are going to be garbage
>>746041962Morrowind will forever be the most sovlful and interesting Bethesda game, that isn't going to change. I doubt it has a ton of players in 2026, in any case. Skyrim will always have players, just the mod autists alone will keep it going.But I think Sentinel will be successful. The only hesitation is they didn't fire Emile after the dogshit world and story in Starfield, universally hated.
>>746046691>universally hated.boring doesn't mean hate
>>746046691>But I think Sentinel will be successfulWhy you want to see niggers everywhere or what?
>>746046558>Bethesda is obviously going to learn their lessons going forwardGood one, anon. Almost got me.
>>746046751Ok, hated was a strong word. But I've never read a single opinion saying anything good about it. 'Boring' seems to be the overwhelming consensus.
>>746046780No, I don't care for them in general. But Redguard are a fictional race in TES going back decades. As long as they don't have George Floyd storylines, it'll be fine.
>>746045560Why do Skyrimfags always try to lump themselves in with Morrowindfags in these arguments? It's so pathetic. Morrowind > Oblivion > Skyrim.t. played skyrim first
who the fuck cares about how fast it sells>hilariously unsustainable 7-12 year release cycle>release dogshit in the meantime>keep randomly, sporadically updating the games that do exist on account of paid mods/creation club shit so you just keep fucking over the modders that actually still enjoy your gamebethsoft is retarded and mismanaged
>>746046963>fucking over the modderscry harder
wow, we do literally just have unabashed paid shills in the threadwhy does bethesda bother to pay people to talk down >free community modding???what is the possible benefit???its not even like an anti piracy campaign, this shit is, has always been, and will always be preferable to buying 3rd party garbage from a storefront for like 20$ a new weapon
>>746045121>>746045247I didn't, I'm just saying many people complained>uses Vortexwhat's wrong with that?
>>746047215>what's wrong with that?nothing, MO2 users are stuck in 2020
>>746046943I played Oblivion first and Skyrim shits all over it honestly. Even unmodded Skyrim beats modded Oblivion. That's how much of an improvement it was. But I doubt we'll see that with ES6, they're going to do something that ruins the entire game, Bethesda is absolutely capable of that seeing how they handled Starfield.
>>746047026sell more expansionsill buy more expansionsdont break your game on account of creation club toddits not that hard
>>746045637I was going to say Dunmer but they lost land to farm tools lmao
>>746047329bethesda updates the creation club crap because paypigs buy it, why the fuck would they cater to a bunch of autists who can't figure how to stop an update from happening
>>746043558>Define failingThe way people look at Fallout 4 compared to New Vegas.The way people look at Starfield compared to everything before it.
>>746046078Comfy colors are comfyIs that around Skingrad?
>>746043558>Is it gonna break all the previous records and be the fastest selling Bethesda game to date bringing in infinite quadrillions of $lol lmao even
>>746047571>peoplebrown "people" you mean
>>746048070>Starfield probably hasn't sold more than 5milgrim
>>746044551
>>746044793Maybe play a new game then and not a 20 year old game you have to mod to enjoy
>>74604196260/70%Fallout 4 was a misstepStarfield was a deliberate change of plan
>>746048365nta but I will when they will release something better than Skyrimso far they haven'talso>implying new games don't require modding>implying new games get updated less oftenhow do you not forget to breathe sometimes?
>>746048365show me this mythical "new game"
>>746046078I'll let you in on a secret: real white people aren't so insecure they can't stop talking about race. Sorry.
>>746047303>stuck in 2020You could be stuck in way worse than that.
>>746046691>sovlful and interestingthe lore fucking sucks, all they did was copypaste Crowley scriptures and change the namesliterally the opposite of soulful
>>746046558>"In terms of RPG elements Starfield was the best game since Morrowind"lollmao even>"Bethesda is obviously going to learn their lessons going forward">they'll learn from Fallout 4!>okay they didn't learn from it and made Fallout 76, but they'll learn from Fallout 76!>okay they didn't learn from it and made Starfield, but they'll learn from Starfield![you are now here]
>>746041962Videogames sell on hype and hype alone. It will sell millions.Old gamers will get swept by nostalgia, newer gamers by FOMO.I think the quality of the game will be Skyrim-tier, i.e. they'll 100% play it safe. No real new features, no bold direction, mechanical call-backs and compromises. The game will also feel outdated by the time ti will come out, but that's fine.
>>746046558In terms of RPG elements Starfield was the best game since MorrowindI stopped reading here. The bait was too obvious or you are brutally retardedm
>>746049204starfield had way more RPG stuff than skyrim>>they'll learn from Fallout 4!>okay they didn't learn from itthey did though. They realized their target audience wants less proc gen NPCs and more hand crafted quests, more hand crafted towns.What lessons do you think they needed to learn from fallout 4/76?
>>746044551It's the awkward middle child that does nothing wither Morrowind or Skyrim don't do better
>>746049384>they did thoughStarfield had voiced protagonists during more than half its development.
>>746041962>Chances of Sentinel failing and people collectively going back to Skyrim/Morrowind?0%
>>746049371which bethesda game since morrowind do you think is a better RPG?
>>746041962I wouldn't say zero but it isn't very high I'm willing to bet the cattle will eat it up even if its a turd and who knows maybe bethesda will put out a banger.
>>746048070Fun fact: Tainted Grail: Fall of Avelon, a game made by an AA game studio that is an open world RPG similar to bethesda games, has a better player retention rate than starfield and both games out the same year.
>>746041962Based on the trajectory the TES series has been on for thirty years as of September 20 this year, TES 6 is going to be so overly simplified that it will be unrecognizable when compared to a game even as recent as Oblivion and will be questionably and tangentially related to Skyrim. >SkillsMagic will be reduced to 3 schools: Restoration, Destruction, and Conjuration; Alteration and Illusion will be tome/scroll only. Restoration will have two effects: restore health and restore stamina. Destruction will include the same old fire/frost/shock slop as before. Conjuration will involve yet again a slew of completely useless companions. Leveling will be done away with entirely with the perk tree there to replace it (you won't notice a difference between starting off or earning 100 perk points for combat unless you spend them). Speech is done away with, Alchemy is replaced with material knowledge of recipes (you can craft anything as long as you have the equipment and know what to mix), Armor and Block skills consolidated into Defense, One/Two handed skills consolidated into Attack, Enchanting based on material knowledge and mage guild access.>CombatAll armor including the helmet inseparable (no more mixing and matching) and armor can be changed to appearance-only like what Ubisoft did with Assassin's Creed games via unlocks and other shit. Target lock on and autoblock based on your defense and attack skills. This makes every combat instance partially scripted in such a way that it appears very cinematic (again, think combat in the AC series). You can parry by pressing a button and that's it. No more "missing" an NPC. Archery stays but is horribly nerfed because of how the stealth archer build in Skyrim was very OP and now nobody uses archery (similar to Oblivion)>GameplayPhysics no better than a modified Havok system because the game engine will essentially yet again be Gamebryo. Textures and shader effects emphasized beyond everything else.
>>746049541>voiced protagonistsOn that subject, nta, also not an RPGfag so I don't really care, butwouldn't the best of two worlds be voiced protag but with a simple option to make it silent?also how difficult is it to mod, really?I never got how this is such a huge issue for people
>>746049541>in pre production>during more than half its development.
>>746050350>wouldn't the best of two worlds be voiced protag but with a simple option to make it silent?You have to pay voice actors. People would rather the voice actor budget went to unique NPCs not having the MC have 4 different flavors of "Yes" for every interaction.
>>746050287This would be the worst case for TES 6.
>>746042163>implying it wasn't millenials/Gen X who love MorrowindThe boomer bullshit has gotten out of control
>>746043558>full of bugs virtually unplayable on launch?Starfield was their most optimized launch ever. It won't be worse than that.
>>746043690Can't possibly be as trash as Starfield. It seems like people fail to understand that Starfield is junk because it is empty and hollow, basically the opposite of TES
>>746041962Pretty Big. Bethesda has to pull of a miracle, to make base game at the very least equally impressive as skyrim with 4000 mods, if not, it will be forgotten just like star game
>>746050357>pre production>both male and female VAs had already done voice sessions for months
>>746049204>>746049371>no rebuttal
>>746041962>All the Incel Grifters still haven't realized that Redguard and Sentinel are smack dabbed into Elder Scroll Black People and will have a hissy fit./v/ drama grifters and Twitter grifters will make a stink about it and it will succeed.
>>746051304I doubt Bethesda has the writing prowess they had in 1998.
>>746042163most of the people playing morrowind these days are zoomers. have you been living under a rock the past 5 years?
>>746045381the playerbase has always liked redguards and often regarded them as one of the coolest races with the best lore. youre just a faggot /pol/ack newfag skyrimbabby
>>746049225>The game will also feel outdated by the time ti will come outtruer words were never spoken, this 100%
>>746051684redguard has pretty fucking terrible writing. only cool thing it had was some cool lore books and PGE1 of course, but thats about it. morrowind was and still kinda remains the only one with interesting writing in terms of its story and characters. redguard feels like a retarded saturday morning cartoon.
>>746050287excellent predictions, now do the story, side quests and misc features
>>746042163Hell, there are people who still play Daggerfall. People latch onto whatever they enjoyed in their formative years.
>>746041962Zero.The game is selling 10s of millions no matter how hard the cucks here cope
>>746054496I disagree, I found Redguard's writing surprisingly effective in its delivery. While true that characters speak more 'poetically' than a thug or an island drunkard realistically would, it added to the vibe of this being a story seen through the lens of a purposefully pulpy adventure. While being the most limited in scope, its dialogue with characters like Tobias or Dreekius made Tamriel feel much bigger and alien than it did in most other games, and Cyrus' speech right before the final dungeon is legit kino.https://youtu.be/tEPYlJLvcEM?t=258
>>746041962failing?we are still edging bets if its ever gonna come out before bethesda crumbles or not
>>746041962Starfield is their best game yet, Sentinel will be amazing as a result they just need to slap on a TES skin onto the existing gameplay systems and people will eat it up.
>>746041962Very high.Each new TES game always makes the last one look more soulful, and Skyrim in particular will never live down those shitty copypasted inns and 5 house villages and cities.Solitude was such a joke, it made windhelm look like a sprawling metropolis in comparison
>>746048070Starfield's performance is insanely impressive, it shows how much putting in passion and soul into making games matter.
>>746044157Skyrinel. Obviously.
>>746055520yep>make your studio's name by creating medieval fantasy type games>force your devs to work on a fucking SPACE or Fallout game>it turns out shallow and tries to be needlessly cinematic for an RPG
>>746055504>Each new TES game always makes the last one look more soulfulNobody cares about Oblivion, anon.
>>746050251I just took the pic just now, nigga you're retarded.
>>7460419620% if it actually comes out but there is only a 50/50 chance of that
>>746055780My TES fanatic friends did, and they're the ones who got me in to skyrim in the first place
>>746055780I do. Or at least I did until the crashes came back.
>>746055915are you aware what "player retention" means?Starfield has like 1% of their players leftTainted grail has 5%+
>>746056560that shit's arbitrary, never hear no nigga on /v/ use that kinda obfuscation bull shit to justify their steam charts
>>746054570>StoryWe're gonna continue the "who's the rightful heir to the throne" gag with three factions of Redguard warring against each other and varying degrees of racism and resentment against Bretons especially and the Imperial pantheon. Orsinium (and all Orcs) will become a major focal point in the power struggle. Blah blah blah the player character does XYZ diplomacy and ultimately leads to an unremarkable ruler who nobody will remember and has less than zero lines of dialogue after MQ is completed, affecting history in no real way. Maybe the Big Thing(tm) will be fighting against Akavir (Re: Dagoth Ur, Oblivion/Mehrunes Dagon, Dragons) which is directly ruled by some minor Daedra Lord we conveniently have never heard of. The player character will (re)build a settlement that was destroyed in [insert generic tragedy here] and use it as a base to push his agenda in support of [insert faction here] for the sake of fighting Akavir. >Side QuestsThey'll be the same as Skyrim's "radiant quest" system basically. [Random NPC] needs you to [kill/talk to/grab item] at [location with some enemies and a boss level chest]. Only difference is now you'll have a traced path (like the Clairvoyance spell in Skyrat) for all active quest objectives by default to minimize menu diving.>Misc FeaturesBuilding and upgrading one of three possible settlements (the first is given to you for free which is a town that is destroyed in the beginning of the MQ), Ships which can't be controlled manually but are instead flavored fast travel vehicles you use for a small questline about piracy probably and a bunch of radiant quests (tm) that involve traveling to one of 10 islands in the Abecean to clear a series of other boring dungeons. You'll be able to start a shop that idly earns you gold except its practically useless as the shop earns a pittance compared to a single dungeon run you can pull at level 1.
>>746056754>arbitraryPlayer retention is more valuable than you think because it means people are still buying the game, and/or old players are still interested
>>746041962>going back to Skyrim/MorrowindWhy are Morrowbabbies so fucking delusional
>>746057873i know youre trolling because obviously everyone is playing through openmw but it really is awesome to see how popular morrowind is and how its eclipsing oblivion and starfield modding
>>746057669spot on lol, saving your predictions for future reference once the game launches lol
>>746057873any game that isn't counter strike 2 on steam is a failure
>>746058935see you in 2034
>>746059237>25 year old single player game having 500 players, not counting openmw, is a failureplease explain this
>>746058748Get me a source for OpenMW numbers>impossible, doesn't existThen I don't care.Keep coping. Pic related also, notice a certain Elder Scrolls game missing? In fact, scratch that. Notice the literal ONLY gamebryo game missing off the list? Ain't nobody playing Morrowshit in the first place for anyone to "go back to".
>>746059372did anyone say that morrowind had a bigger mod scene? nice reading comprehension. also>ai overviewlol. anyway, while there are no official numbers, looking at the amount of mods being created and downloaded for morrowind is a great indicator, retard. re-read my post's picture. very slowly. >>746058748
>>746059316Morrowshit isn't a failure, we're just laughing at OP trying to act like Morrowind is the game "people will go back to if Sentinel flops" in the same breath as Skyrim.Skyrim and Morrowind are worlds apart. In fact, Morrowind is literally the least played gamebryo game of the bunch. Ain't nobody "going back to Morrowind"
>>746053226Kek is that dumb donald?
Probably
>>746059537>lol. anyway, while there are no official numbers, looking at the amount of mods being created and downloaded for morrowind is a great indicator, retard.Not even in the top 10 most downloaded mods on Nexus. I used your own cope source against you.>Steam player countMorrowind is 2nd last, only able to beat out Fallout 3 >muh mods downloaded/createdDidn't even make the "Most downloaded mods on Nexus" top 10 list whereas EVERY OTHER Gamebryo game did lmao. All five Morrowind fans still on the internet always try this shit, you try to act like Morrowind is on Skyrims level like the OP>people collectively going back to Skyrim/Morrowind?When the reality is, nobody gives a fuck about your boomer shit
Every flaw of a Bethesda game is them adding something new to their games they've never done before and messing it up due to their lack of feedback and experience with the new systems. Starfield was a very competently made game but the new systems of having massive planets with randomized POIs were a mistake while all the existing gameplay systems were competently done. Sentinel wont share the same issues as Starfield since they do not need to introduce new systems and just need to iterate on their existing ones and people would just be extremely happy with a "skyrim but bigger" even if there's nothing else new in it.
>>746059751>you try to act like Morrowind is on Skyrims leveli literally never said that, you fucking retard. again, re-read what i wrote very very slowly. i simply said that it has exploded in popularity for the past 5 years and eclipsed OBLIVION and STARFIELD, you RETARD. i invite you to look AGAIN at this picture. >>746058748 take your time. i mean it.
As milquetoast a lot of Skyrim was, a lot of the lore and vibes introduced by it were fantastic, and Bethesda still had a very clear vibe/idea for what the Elder Scrolls universe ought to be and feel like.After Starfield, and the entire fucking thing feeling like it was written and designed by and for HR, exclusively, I have 0 confidence of them being even half as successful as Oblivion, let alone Skyrim
>>746059976>lot of the lore and vibes introduced by it were fantasticjust holdovers from morrowinds lore just watered down even more. have you read the lore of skyrim from this era?
>>746059892>eclipsed oblivion and starfieldOblivion>568 players in game>645 peakOblivion Remastered>1.6k players in game>2.1k peakStarfield>4k players in game>5k players peakMorrowind>500 players in game>590 peakAin't nobody and hear me when I say this, NOBODY playing your dogshit game. Now cope more about OpenMW with your head canon imaginary player count that garbage adds. I'm sure it's right up there with Skyrim little guy!
>>746043558>it will sell >it will be shit>people will forget itWe already had this happen with Starfield? And it's considered a failure. Why wouldn't it be a failure when Todd has been able to milk the earlier games in the series for literally decades, on multiple platforms, getting several sales from the same people?You think anyone's buying Starfield DLCs? New editions for new platforms? Will they be excited for the remaster in 10 years? Fuck no. So it's a failure.
>>746060072>holdovers from Morrowinds LoreGood thing nobody played Morrowind then and instead experienced it first hand through the infinitely more successful/relevant Skyrim then, eh Morrowtroon?Siri, is there a tranny god introduced by Morrowind named Vivec?
>>746060306jesus chill out dude. it was merely a question. no need to get all histrionic.
>>746056754>that shit's arbitraryThis is a man who claims "per capita" is a racist invention.
>>746060159nevermind you still seem to completely misunderstand what im saying. maybe you're an ESL. ill let you believe whatever you want as you seem unwilling to engage with me
>>746058748>cumulative downloadsretard
>>746060283Im buying Starfield's DLC day 1
>>746041962It will still make a billion dollars, even if it's just Microsoft buying the stock. Virtual licenses cost nothing to produce. They can buy as many as they want with a postbox corporation.
>>746041962>game that already has all kinds of fun mods>ugly, modernist, bare bones trashHmm...
>>746060421Nigga ain't nobody misunderstanding you. You literally shifted the goalposts and let's not forget, you REPLIED TO ME. My initial post was clear and directed at the OP >>746057873You then came in accusing me of trolling citing download figures and bringing up OpenMW as some sorts of rebuttal. Then when I literally humored your cope showing that Morrowind ironically has the lowest mods/downloaded mods of any Gamebryo game you then cope and narrow it down to a specific time frame. I don't give a fuck, my reply to was the OP and I was stating that Morrowind is dead, I don't need to accept your goalpost shift making it about mods (where Morrowind gets BTFO also). Again you replied to me first, not the other way around. Just accept that your favorite Elder Scrolls game is the least relevant/successful and quit your pussy ass bitching you little Vivec wannabe troon.Bonus fact to make you seethe harder. Morrowind has fewers GoTYs and lower review scores than every other TES game also, LMAO
>>746060938Ganges.
>>746060371Idk who the other guy is. I'm the person you originally responded to: I only played and finished Morrowind once, I never got too deep into the lore in that game besides the dunmer stuff.If Morrowind did introduce 99% of it, then props to it. Personally, I was speaking more in regards to the Great War and the entire build-up to the civil war. I thought that was brilliant, and there is nothing in Starfield that even reaches near that level of writing. A lot in Starfield's lore just feels like shit that maybe probably did happen, but it's so far removed from everything else you see in the game that you don't really feel like you're playing in the same world as those events.
>>746058748>>746059892Even here you're bullshitting https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/about/stats#display=downloads&min=1104537600000&max=1787614207072&bh=ignoreStarfield was hitting 30 million this year, Morrowind peaked over its entire lifespan at 11 million. The fuck you talking about "eclipsed OBLIVION and STARFIELD"
>>74606144020 years ago only a possible ~400 million people could even afford to play a then-current video gametoday that number is like 4 billionnumbers are meaninglessyou aren't smart enough to understand why even though I just told you
>>746061076NTA but he's bullshitting.Barely anything is a holdover from Morrowind lore besides the Dwemer which Morrowind barely even has anything about in the first place. There's a reason why if there's a TES lore thread on /v/ it's gonna be the Civil War or paarthurnax, neither of which has anything to do with anything Morrowind related
>>746061513If that's the case, why does Oblivion have more downloaded mods than Starfield (including Morrowind) when it came out at roughly the same time as MorrowshitYou're saying a lot of words when all you should be saying is "Morrowind is not as successful as the other TES games."
>>746060283>remasterNawBut a remake might be unironically ok if they manage to rework all the brazillion unfinished useless mechanics the game has right now
>>746061720are you dumb
>>746059372Nexus only became the main place to download morrowind mods way after skyrim launched, this isn't a fair comparison.
>>746061820I accept your concession
Sentinel is such a terrible name I hope it’s not real
>>746062069its literally just made up by some schizos because asha tweeted something that may indicate that TES 6's title may have eight letters so there is no proof that it is sentinel in any way. could be literally anything just like how oblivions title is not related to the region nor a city either.
Skyrim modding took like 4-5 years to get off and another 10 years to reach its peak.
>>746045083>i'm autistic and didn't get it, this is your faultcrazy how every other reply understood what was meant
>>746045381Morrowind is the weird TES game for not being in a province of men (Arena is basically not TES). Don't expect any new TES game (if we even get VII) to ever be set in a non-human province that hasn't already been covered. At most Sumerset could happen but I see that probability as <5%. Elsewyr and Black Marsh never ever and frankly, Bosmer might as well be a beast race so they're out too. If VI sells enough to not warrant Todd's execution I see the most likely outcome for VII as Morrowind 2, like VI is Daggerfall 2. Despite Morrowind being a mer province, it's still a safe bet because 1: the lore is already done and 2: people can soijak and pretend they've played Morrowind.
>>746041962I was a TES VI doomer for quite a while but I genuinely have hope it will be kino. I doubt it will be of much better quality than Skyrim, but after replaying that game recently it is still enjoyable and the TES lore and world building will always be toptier. As long as Bethesda move away from their Fallout and Starfield writing, it will be an enjoyable experience. Anyway, all the pressure Microsoft has been putting Bethesda under has made me extremely optimistimic. They sacked a lot of deadweight and now Todd seems to actually be making an effort to court his fanbase, instead of just releasing whatever garbage he wants. >>746049516>does nothing wither Morrowind or Skyrim don't do betterThe combat is far superior to Skyrim, and arguably better than Morrowind's (if you don't take into account how Oblivion removed spears for no fucking reason); the faction quests to Oblivion are also so much better written than Skyrim's, which are all largely terrible, story-wise.
>>746062884It was literally confirmed by Bethesda themselves
>>746046078>literal floating trees in the distanceuh.. fucking soul?
>>746044812>Remake is garbagetrue>the original is a jankfest with terribly outdated mods, there's nothing comfy about it.skill issue
>>746066030No, they used two different world generators and somebody fucked up. Nothing in the wilderness is hand-crafted except the caves which all have literal wooden doors because of limitations with Gamebryo
>>746060072>have you read the lore of skyrim from this era?Given "this era" didn't exist until Skyrim...
>>746041962It's gonna sell well simply because it's Skyrim 2. Don't think Starfield did enough damage to prevent normalfags from blindly buying it.
>>746043558Der Ewige Goyim is the root of all evil
>>746041962If they pull a starfield again, yeah
>>746061076People are genuinely not fair a lot of the time to Skyrim and its strengths, due in part to how we've been stuck with the one game for 15 years so it's been discussed to death to such a point we're not permanently stuck on "*everything* the game did was wrong because I've non-stopped watched people online shit on it for a decade" mode. Truth is more people remember characters like Maven Black-Briar than your average Morrowind NPC not called Fargoth, Caius Codes or Vivec.
>>746041962morrowind put me to fucking sleep and i have no clue what this shit is i just wanted to post about that and that bethesda sucks massive shit logs
>>746041962I would say pretty decent considering everyone hated Starfield and people aren't as impressed by open worlds anymore.
>>746041962>Chances of Sentinel failing and people collectively going back to Skyrim/Morrowind?100%It's going to be more india-slop like starfailed.
>>746062884>it's a coincidence that Bethesda's official account replied to Sharma with the same number of asterisks>it's a coincidence that Kirkbride stated it was 'Sentinel' on r*ddit>it's a coincidence that Starfield's CC has a series of numbers that alphabetically translate to SENTINEL
>>746070130Never ask a Skyrim hater the play time on his Skyrim
>>746064208>Don't expect any new TES game (if we even get VII) to ever be set in a non-human province that hasn't already been covered. At most Sumerset could happen but I see that probability as <5%They absolutely will have to do Alinor for TES VII in 2050 because they'll have nothing left. They've already done Cyrodiil and Skyrim, and with TES VI they'll do Hammerfell and possibly chunks of High Rock. That's all the human provinces right there. Elves are more human-adjacent/human-looking than cats and lizards, and if TES VII is gonna be the last of the Thalmor Trilogy, setting it in Thalmor Island just makes sense.
>>746064806>The combat is far superior to Skyrimlol>the faction quests to Oblivion are also so much better written than Skyrim'slmao even
Reminder that we already have TES6 at home https://store.steampowered.com/app/3849000/The_Lantern_of_the_Laughless_Saint/
>>746059537>ai overviewthe numbers are ripped straight from Nexus you tard, the source is on the right and their websitewhere do you think the ai gets the information
>>746041962It's not going to be called Sentinel. Shit sounds stupid as fuck.It's Dominion.
>>746075491>>746065745
>>746056754>330,000 People give *game* a try>3000 people stick with it, only 0.7% of people who tried *game* felt it was worth playing more>25,000 People give *game* a try>1500 people stick with it, 6% of people who tried *game* felt it was worth playing more, an almost 10x higher rate of retention>anon: ayo that doesnt mean anything, that shits just arbitrary, you're obfuscating 'n' shiiieeet
