>SWORD IS COMINGHAHAHAHAHA BOW DOWN TO THE NEW KING OF ARPGS... POE2 !
>>746059813you need to get your eyes checked
Remove trade from the game and I'll be back , rmt needs to be stamped out entirely, then I'll be back
>>746059813
>>746060145Just play SSF?
>>746060253I don't want solutions. I want to bitch.
>>746059813...It's literally a white man.
>>746058275>guys, get this... We added, to our fantasy RPG... SWORDS!! And it only took 2 years!!PoEniggers are pathetic, the live service model has rendered diablolikes a complete joke. The only respectable title left is Grim Dawn and maybe Titan Quest 2 if it ends up being good
>>746058275huh ?
>>746059813You either need glasses or you need to stop phone posting
>>746060294You'd fit right in with everyone that hates PoE
>>746058275Is this for 0.5.5? If its for the December lesgue then who gives a shit, too little too late. Still no Templar, spells still absolute trash. Building aspects still poop
>>746061852>6.1Read
>>746058275ffs, generic gladiator / duelist againi was really hoping instead of duelist they'd do pirate and instead of shadow they'd do ninjathere already is the monk, i thought a ninja wouldn't be too far fetchedtoo bad
>>746061975I dont know what that means. Why would they release details on a patch of a patch that isn't even out yet?
>>746062293kill yourself
>>746062748anon might be trolling or confused, it's happening in hall 6.1. we dunno if it's swords in the upcoming 0.5.5 or just in a teaser for 1.0 later this year.
>>746060253the game isn't balanced around SSF and you know it
I do love the stench of victory!
>>746062293why are you pretending any class identity in POE mattersthey're all the same dogshit blank slate you project your build on anywayit could be a fucking playable duck and it would still be the same as every other character in the game already
>>746060145I rather have trading and game breaking RMT than a dog shit closed economy loot treadmill. You stupid fucking baby themepark niggers killed MMOs fuck you go die nigger.
>>746063252>the game isn't balanced around SSFit's not a problem in poe2 (yet), not like it is in poe1.
>>746063143Yeah that's what I was getting at hall 6.1 isn't a patch
>>746058275When are they adding axes, builds, loot, endgame, action, and/or role-playing?
Is this game ever coming out? I want to give it a chance but it's been in $30 early access for like two years now.
>>746061975That's a hall, this is a convention sign
>>746060145GGG is an RMT-friendly dev. In fact, they sold ~18% of the company to the guy who ran lewt.com and other RMT sites before the Tencent acquisition. You can go on 20 different RMT sites and get items easily with no risk. Even the ecelebs do this off stream.
>>746060494only 2 more years to get the game out of EA!!!!
>>746058275>SwordsTime for the dev approved elemental strike skills then.
>>746063690This, the only legitimate players are the hcssf racers
>>746063685That coincidently checks with update 0.6.1
>>746063623they said end of the year. won’t surprise me if they delay it.
>>746060253This.
>>746059813Why did so many people fall for this post?Genuinely what the FUCK is wrong with this fucking website nowadays?
>>746063252They've been parroting this nonsense since PoE1. The game isn't balanced around trade either. Either the grind takes forever or your character hits 99.99% of its power within a week. GGG is just fucking retarded and has no idea how to properly pace the game because their map tier system is a load of dogshit.
PoE 2 tried to fix PoE's braindead one button zoom zoom gameplay but ended up becoming the same shit but even worse due to the lack of mobility. That and it being the same infinite garbage collection similator.Is there any ARPG with a good pacing and fun loot anymore?
>>746059813AI is supposed to get better at image recognition this is going backwards
>>746066591
>>746058275I wish they didn't ditch wands as ranged attack weapons, I thought that was a cool niche archetype.
>>746058275finally the game is playable holy shit
>new poe2 update>play to maps for 2 weeks>quit>new poe2 update>play to maps for 2 weeks>quithonestly all the additions to end game are great but I just keep falling off. Too many games to play these days to justify dumping all my time into mapping. Also game needs more sexy skins. Tired of my witch looking like a fucking prude
>>746058275PoE went wokeIt's over
>>746069663Just use Demonic body armour
>>746069834oh nice I'll check it out
>>746069663ARPG endgame just sucks. That said I will definitely check out the new class and I always have fun until I get to maps.
>>746069663You're playing the way the developers intended btw
>>746070830This is basically me ever since EA launchEvery league play the new class till end of campaign, then reset and play another new class till I'm basically done with the league and rinse repeat the next1.0 will be good to get closure on the whole campaign and see a whole new class through
cant wait to see how overdesigned the fucking sword skills are
>>746066151>The game isn't balanced around trade eitherWhat? Yes it fucking is. Half the motivation for so many updates and changes and hotfixes are specifically related to the value of items in trade.
>>746058275Swords? Isnt like playing melee impossible in this game, both poe1 and 2?
>>746058275why is this fucking dogshit like 170 gigs? why does it run worse now than it did at launch?
>>746071145>>746070830>>746069663At least beat the Arbiter? Getting to maps is the bare minimum
>>746071163Can it be any worse than multi strike flicker strike dual world sword duelist in poe1?
>>746071418Mapping just isn’t fun. I’m excited to play all through the campaign, but after I get to maps I soon just completely lose interest and stop playing.
>>746071286You're thinking of 0.1. melee has become god tier since every enemy and even mechanic like trials of sekhemas got nerfed since then
>>746069663the marrionette chest isnt bad and there are some other ok optionsbut yea i do agree theres a general lack of sexy mtx
>>746071550Melee got hard nerfed in multiple ways. It's worse than in 0.2 what are you smoking
>>746071550.1 was kino watching all the tards get filtered by bosses
>>746071750ThisAlso remember the dogs and scarabs?
>>746071726Some of the most played ascendencies right now are martial artists and Titan/Smith of Kitava. The literal most broken build in the entire game is a stacked HP Titan. Even if you don't think endgame, in the early game Mace swinging and heavy stunning obliterates every boss in no time. Geonor melts to warriors compared to other starting classes
>>746071550I'm no hardcore endgame mapping player and I've gotten 4 different characters to maps thus far in 0.5, a supporting fire tactician, a cluster grenade witch hunter, a companion based spirit walker, and a bear shaman and all of these characters never once had any problem with the so called "rape ape" let alone died to it. What was so different about it back then?
>>746058275>Have to wait for the 27th just so I know when I can play againHopefully .5.5 is soon
>>746072050DamagePeople not understanding rolling
>>746059813Are you ok?
>>7460720680.5.5 coming at a good time as I finish up 3.29 on PoE1Feels good to enjoy both games
>>746058275The fuck's a hall 6.1?
>>746059813no you're thinking of POE1 season
>>746071550I need more 0.1 death webmsThis shit was gold back then
they really should ban poe1 players from poe2
>>746072390anon....
>>746072423They'll be more than glad to keep playing PoE1 forever. Go on 1 right now and try saying 2 is better on global chat and watch the programmed drones activate, they legitimately aren't even human anymore.
>>746072423Yes please, holy shit.
NOTHING I COULD FUCKING DO WOOOOOWWW
>>746072420
>>746072591Why'd you willingly choose to roll into it?
>>746072647>zdps build
>>746059996so does the artist
>>746072591LOL
>>746059813It legit looks like ellie from tlou2
>>746072647What the actual fuck is he doing that his bells do that little damage instead of straight up melting the boss?
>>746072876That's why i called it zero dps.
>>746063464poe1 has so many ways to get perfect items there is no way think ssf is a problem
I fucking love wasd movement and I'm upset it wasn't added to the genre sooner.
Wasn't this suppose to be released like 6 months after the early access?Which was like 2 years ago?
>>746072693>don't use any of the few meta skills during a league>you deal negative damageHow is the game so badly balanced? Like in every league like 90% of players just use 1-3 skills out of 200 of so.
>>746073220yes we know poo1tranny, you're obsessed
>>746058275How do you get into this game if you haven't played much of 1? I bought it at launch, played it into Chapter 2 following a Crossbow guide for the Amazon-like character, then my guide disappeared and trying to follow guides is super annoying now because they all show the character I'm not playing using random skills.>yeah to level up your spear girl you first click on this guide that shows the warrior that then takes the druid alchemy souls and at 4 blurbows get the wizard's fist of horsefucking with the robot guy's passive active toe sucking fraternization to use on your nunchuck great axe longbow staffsSeriously what the fuck are POE2 players I do not understand how anyone plays this fucking game.
>>746073463>>746073274I literally play without ever using any guides or pre built builds and have easily gotten multiple characters to maps and beyond in practically all leagues of each EA version so far. I don't get this meme
Tencent shill thread
>>746066591Grim Dawn. That said, I still like poe1/2. But if you want a game that feels like Diablo 2 without actually being it, Grim Dawn.
>>746073554I play SSFHC and do the same, doesn't change the fact that in PoE2 the current meta skills are 1000x better than everything else and the game have god awful balance.
>>746073554It's the narrative. And it's free replies.
>>746073610I'm also doing HCSSFDon't care about the meta skills at all. I just play what I want and make it happen usually through campaign even beating the Arbiter
>>746073697Doesn't matter, the fact still remains that the few meta skills each league is 10000x stronger than everything else and the balance is awful.
>>746073554I'm not meming. Fucking how? Are you autistic and just read through 896^2 bobbles on the skill tree and just make one of every character and experiment with all of them to level 30 before deciding which one you want?It's fucking completely unapproachable and I've played Strangers of Paradise to Lufenia Difficulty and mastered it's fucking insane amounts of systems and itemization. POE2 just makes no sense. Like it's not even a flat wall, it's a cliff with an overhang.
>>746073757it's literally just the sphere grid from ffx, the tree it laid out and organized by stat
>>746073463Pick a skill or skills you like and take nodes that increase your damage. Then pick a defense stat and take nodes that increase that. This will, in almost any example, create a build that you can clear basically the whole game with (maps & pinnacle bosses included).The game is designed in a way that most characters can use most abilities effectively, so a lot of the time for any given skill the most effective ascendency and starting location isn't the guy holding that weapon in the artwork. But the guy holding that weapon in the artwork will basically always start in a location that's close to nodes that buff that thing.
>>746060494This. Everything about PoE is retarded. Even PoE2 was hyped up as fuck and petered out so fast after release. Nobody gave a fuck. But they make a small change and people pretend we should give a fuck again
>>746073757>Are you autistic and just read through 896^2 bobbles on the skill treeThere's a search function for starters
>>746073463The campaign and even most of endgame is not difficult whatsoever, if you have the capacity to think for yourself and understand that BIG NUMBER BETTER then you can easily figure out your own hodgepodge build to play using whatever skill you like and whatever items you find.>>746073274Because of two reasons1: Optimization, people are drawn to the best even if it's 0.1% better.2: Popularity, many people just look up a guide and follow what it says, this leads to a large amount of casuals flooding a handful of builds. 3: The hidden secret third option is that each patch has added new things so obviously people are going to focus on those.
>>746073757You literally just use your brain.
>>746072591>sprint into trap
>>746069663That's the standard experience, at most the diehards play for a month, once better challenge leagues come out there will be more reasons to play but for now it's just for the raw fun of it
>>746073791It's funny, because I sucked at that horribly too. To be fair, I was 11. >>746073820This is where I completely lose interest starting to try to play again. I want to play a Spear girl or something, but the game is seemingly designed in a way that the Spear girl is actually the monk that uses small animals to chuck trees into portals that then cause lightning storms. Watching videos doesn't help in the least, and it seems like you literally have to spend 50+ hours reading and learning everything before you can even attempt to play the game, and then I get bored by level 9 and uninstall. I don't even think I'm that ignorant or stupid, I just genuinely cannot figure this fucking game out and I felt burnt. The videos make it look awesome, the core gameplay seems really fun; but everything around that just seems super asinine as fuck.It doesn't have a built-in community build thing, does it? You can sort builds by popularity or weapon/ascendancy and just follow that? That might make it easier to understand.
>>746072591I fucking love the sprint mechanic and I hope they don't nerf it, I need webms like this in my life, I need to know people die like this in hardcore.
>>746074095>It doesn't have a built-in community build thing, does it?It does, but at the same time it's not hard to just pick what you are using. You are overwhelmed because you want to be overwhelmed.
>>746074095How the fuck can you be this bad at vidya? I got a ritualist to maps without even dying on my first go in the league and I was doing it by spear chucking. I didn't like having to generate endurance charges with parry for lightning spear so I did explosion spears with jabs and it worked out pretty well
>>746073973Anon I don't even know what the actual fuck I would be searching for. I don't even know what my character does half the time, and judging by every build and video the character in the picture doesn't even do what the character on the picture looks like it's doing. I still don't even understand the differences between classes if they have access to every ability, weapon, item, and the same grid. What's the actual purpose of selecting a character if a Warrior can just use Magic the entire game?>>746074064I am clearly not imaginative enough. I have never had this problem with any other ARPG or game. To be fair, nobody I know plays this game for the exact same reason; I know multiple people that bought it and never played past the first week. If this is a meme, then clearly it isn't an unknown issue.
>>746073757>>746074064This, you're looking at everything and expecting to know it all right away. Just play the game and learn bit by bit. It's not actually that crazy if you're not an ape.
>>746073274It's partly trends and partly because people tout this as complex, and also partly there's third worlders that pay rent by rmt'ing, and therefore are financially dependent on using a good build
>>746074203It's not a memeI literally never look up guides and play HCSSFIt's about readingJust find out how to scale your damage/armor and go from there
>>746071484what are you even talking about?flicker strike in poe1 is>get frenzy charges>use them on flicker strikesimple as
>>746072423neither you or reddit wouldn't be able to play since most of the buildmakers are poe1 playersyou are all just tourists
>>746074358I think that's going to be a deal breaker for me then. I don't want to sit there and read for 8 hours trying to figure out how I make an enemy die with a club. I guess that's why limited options in other games is more appealing, because I can work within the confines to build instead of, "random bullshit go" that seems to be the POE2 gameplay style. I don't want to turn into a wolf while shooting fireballs out of my grenade launching crossbow axe, I just want to stab a dude and maybe find interesting ways to stab said dude. I appreciate the answers though. Thank you.
>>746074437It's more about how absurd it is
>>746073910>wecurious, coming from someone who doesn't even play ARPGs>inb4 b-b-b-but-ACK!post your 40/40
>>746058275Does that include Greatswords??
>>746066151>poopsock game>wahhh I can't believe I beat it in a weekhow fucking long do you want to grind
>>746074507nothing stops you from making and keeping your build thematic that said, I don't think ARPGs are for you if you dislike reading
1.0 was promised a year ago
>>746074574we have to reclaim it from the palestinians (poe1)
>>746074507>8 hoursIt took me like less than ten minutes. What do you think your reading? Not to mention I did literally what you saidI wanted to maul dudes as a bear Made a bear druidInvested in the skills and support gems for itChecked ascendencies and found the one with rageBuilt for melee/shape shift/rage in the passive treeAnd ended up mauling dudes all the was to the endgane where I even had the bonus of being on fireIt's not hardYou just look for what you want to do, then build towards it
I quit after I couldn't mass summon skeletons with my mage. Fuck this game.
>>746072647
>>746074721????
>>746058275Im still having fun with Grim Dawn, sorry
>Release game in early access and treat it the same as a shitty 1.0 release with a "Patch it later" mentality.>Give it a price tag>Roll out shitty updates at a snail pace>Have predatory MTX in a EA game>Your boot licking dick riding fanbase will still defend you online because "It's still in Early Access"What causes this mental gymnastics?
>>746074721you never played the game you stupid little faggot
>>746074781No you aren't, otherwise you wouldn't be in this thread to copepost.
>>746074721Minions/spectres are some of the most good builds out there right now. You just need to know how to stack spirit and summon an entire screen full of bonermans
>>746066591Non ironically Grim Dawn but you fags with ADHD cant take a game that might take more than 15 attoseconds to do something in.
>>746074507>>746074203>>746073463>Has the ability type out paragraphs every single post>Can't understand how to pick bow damage nodes when using a bow, or evasion nodes when using evasionactual autism
>>746074793you're crying because you're poor and wanted to play, but you couldn't afford 30 USD or whatever it was for EA you're still crying to this day, months and months later, having never touched the game (because you are poor) you will play when it releases F2P, and then you will cry even more because you need some new stash tabs but cant afford those also
>>746074793What's funny is I admit I'm a really staunch defender of the game but I never even paid it a single cent I got my EA key from /v/ for free! Still enjoy it lots
>>746069734when they stopped adding in all the cute girls tummies and toes, it was really over, surprised we havent gotten fat druids yet
>>746074573I love ARPGs and reading is fine. The sheer amount of bullshit you have to wade through to stab a dude is through the roof in POE2, when other games it's incredibly straight forward and rewarding. I've played through probably everything without looking at a guide until after I finished, either. I had a ton of fun doing a pistol only build as my first and only run in Grim Dawn. Even the little MMORPG Soul's Remnant I've been playing is too new to have any guides on builds or anything and it's classless with 4 damage disciplines and hybrids for all of them plus insane itemization and I figured out LUK is better than DEX for damage because you can itemize crit damage pretty easily on everything and I've been styling all over people.It's not that reading is hard, it's reading a million bullshit things that 99% of which you don't care about that is annoying and unfun. There's just too much in POE2 I guess, and I'll just admit I'm brainlet and I wasted thirty dollars. I cannot be the only one who has a similar problem where even looking up a build is fucking mindnumbing and impossible because it doesn't make any fucking sense to look up, "Marksman Build" and can't even get a straightforward build on that which makes sense. >Here's your huntress build>go amazon>take frost orb which is magic shit>take pounce which is a fucking wolf thing>your endgame build will use charges, gambits, surges, energy, wards, rage, mana, being a bear, stamina, cum, healthpoints, and did i mention being a fucking bear?What the fuck is this game, dude. Seriously.
>>746074847Had a friend who got filtered the same way. His peanut brain couldn't comprehend how easy it is to just pick damage and defense nodes, kept trying to make overcomplicated shit for the acts
>>746073016Sure if you play 26 hours a day with 14 3rd party apps and dont forget that bachelors degree in crafting because theyve had 10438 crafting ideas and never fucking settled on a single one
>>746059813holy…chud incel janitor agenda pushers for rapeape…we did it…4chan is our own personal echo chamber…..reddit……we’re finally home………
>>746074831I actually enjoy both poe1/2 and grim dawn. I even like TQ1 and 2. You people on both sides always make to things that are completely nonsensical EVEN though you get utterly dismantled by someone who enjoys actually playing video games
>>746074810Im watching a fansly girl stream for me as im eating some pizza and shitposting on /v/. I know this is gonna shock you but when people enjoy video games they dont typically consume it 24/7 until its complete.
>>746075020copepost
>>746074918Seriously? Stop looking up builds and just put points into the nodes that give you more damage and defenses. I beat the game as an armor based warrior using melee and it was fine. Unless you're trying high tier engame mapping, you don't need a complicated build
>>746074992Almost had me til you said you enjoyed TQ2, lying fucking bastard. Gonna tell me you liked those hellsing games too? Victor Vran too? Fucking dins curse too?
>>746074918See>>7460746291. Get idea2. Spec into idea3. Have funIt's not that hardStop looking up build guides
>>746075080What's wrong with TQ2! I played the shit out of TQ1 back then and I enjoy the idea of an ARPG with a mythological setting I actually never played Victor vran or van Hellsing but I love BGDAs and CoN as well. I just really enjoy ARPGs going ask the way back to D1/D2
>>746074750>no skeleton warriors>>746074808Eat a dick
>>746074918build guides will always micromanage and do shit like that just to get extra DPS or recoverythere's a reason why people say your first campaign run should be blindwhat stopped you from playing your first run without a build guide? the ingame wiki is pretty good and PoE2 is more beginner friendly in terms of progression compared to poe1 when doing your own thing as a newer player
>>746074793defending it where?it shot massively shat on ever since 0.1 saw the light of day
>>746075217There's multiple types of skeleton warriors including the generic one you get with your rattle to reavers to the skeletal brutes and you can augment them with support gems to make them even more insane. You can also then use spectres to get even more skeleton warriors.
One thing I always see people fail to understand not just for this is that "comparison is the theft of joy". Don't look up build guides, don't watch ecelebs and their builds, hell don't even talk to other people. Just play the game and explore and learn for yourself. Do HCSSF and don't worry about trade or economics or anything. Just actually enjoy the game.
>>746075217You never played the game. Obviously.
>>746074918I truly don't understand how you ended up like thisAs said>>746074162I made an Amazon when it came out in the league. Brand new class no clue what to do but I liked chucking spears and stabbing shit instead of parrying so I focused on those skills and nodes and when I got my ascendancies I was like, cool a third ring, and chose ritualist and I continued onto maps and had fun. What's the hard part that you're even struggling with?Because from here it sounds like reading guides. In which the advice is what I've been saying. Stop reading guides.
HC is trash, and you think it's trash too since you pause and log out whenever things don't go your way.You deliberately avoid the intended consequences of the game mode, because you consider them unacceptable.
>>746075636Never once paused or logged out. If I fucked up I just either carried on in SC like with my invoker or I reroll and take my learnings with me
>>746075540I was running a 12 skeleton warrior build as a mage, just to log in one day to TWO fucking skeletons from the scepter and no more skeleton warrior skill. Go eat a dick, tranny.
>>746074918Literally autistic, you looked up what the top 0.1% were doing, got flustered, then setup mental blockades that prevented you from understanding the simplest of mechanics and facts.While the upper end of PoE2 is complex, 95% of it is very simple and someone of average intelligence could complete every task in the game with their own home grown "pick what you want" build.
>>746075680Even if that is true, nobody with any experience with this game would ever believe you.
I even did the same in PoE1 for this league just nowI had no clue what a witch was like in PoE1 since way way back when I always played shit like duelist shadow and ranger but decided to try it. I ended up using chaos spells cause they were cool and started combining essence drain with contagion but then I got a hexblast of havoc gem from the ascendancy area where I became an occultist and specced into that going all the way to the end of part 1 of acts. Then in part 2 I discovered soulrend and decided to give that a whirl and it was glorious shooting basically 3 bonespears at once and watching everything die or eventually die. I knew either is useful for lowering chaos res as was curses like despair so I added those in. For the passive tree I just searched chaos and got all those nodes including masteries. I eventually finished all the campaign and went into maps with a class I initially had no clue about and never read a guide going full SSF the whole time.Now I'm doing it all again as a 2H sword cleaving luminary and on HCSSF. About to finish act 5 and move onto part 2 again with a class I had no clue about since it's new.
>>746075738>gets filtered by a UI change without even checking to see how to operate the new UICrazy levels of actual stupidity here.
>>746075928>>746075738Every day I'm amazed at how stupid the modern gamer is.
>>746075819That's because people play the game to min max. I play the game to enjoy it.I will make one confession here despite all I've said I've never fully 100% beaten a league. I never beat a pinacle boss or a highest tier map. Further I got was beating Arbiter but I have my fun trying new things and getting through the campaign/interludes. Maybe come 1.0 I'll get to all that eventually but who knows. I'll always stick by my SSF blind mantra though of no guides/no prebuilt builds/not even youtube videos. It's how I have fun and for both poe1 and 2, 1000+ hours of fun.
>>746071550I have played warrior in every build and not once have i died to this bossThe only boss iv ever came close to dying too was the molten steal boss thats timed
>>746074095>you literally have to spend 50+ hours reading and learning everything before you can even attempt to play the gameMy man, this is a you problem. The search button on the tree is right there, all you have to do is search "damage" or "spear" or "projectile" or "hit" or literally just any word related to what you are trying to do then just look at the nodes to figure out which ones you want to path toward. It's not even nearly as complicated as you are pretending it is. This is not a flaw with the game, it's a flaw with you. The game has problems, this ain't one of 'em.
>>746076043What was your build in 0.1? Warriors were dying left and right complaining about LA and gas nades and ghost wraith ES and Cast-on shenanigans that GGG had to nerf all of them them.
>>746075816>look up spear build>click spear build>look at skills gems, says I need, "Elemental Surge">search for elemental surge under all gems>does not exist>build is from Jun 20, 2026The POE2 Experience. Literally first build, first skill, doesn't exist. This game is a fucking joke. >no anon you're supposed to stare at the grid for hours and try to figure out how to go through each node carefully to get the stats and skills you don't even know you need because you can't tell that playing the fucking game>why are you dying in one hit and doing no damage in the fourth area of the first act? didn't play the game right, should have read through those skill gems perfectly and you'd know the lightning axe bear staff axe bow skill makes your fireball lizard cum guzzle alchemy zebra turn into a lobster machine gun stun grenade nuclear longsword arrow rain that magically homes in on all targets on the map every 14.6 seconds as long as your nature leaf grotto aura has 4 charges and 9 red apples circling you, guess you didn't read those skill interactions carefully or you would know how to play your warrior!I'm tired anons. This game isn't fun. I don't think anyone actually plays it, they just larp about it.>game lost 96.45% of it's player base since launchyeah that sounds about right...
>>746069663this is what happens when you listen to your boomer gambling addict "community" that just bitches non-stop about then game not being one button spam and not some background slop that's exactly like the previous game without one single change that they put on while they do something else and work their sys admin or security job or somethingthat's the problem, they want the game to be dumbed down and able to be background noise while they do something ELSE LOL
>>746076237See>>746075621
>>746076128I just did the standard build up to super stagger then after super staggering spam that charge up fire movenonce i got it (used the shitty roll slam move before that) Iv just played enough rollslop games to know how generous poe2 roll timings are genuinely only ever hated being a warrior to the titan boss and thats only because you couldn't fucking hit him as warrior reliablely last i played himI swiched to druid after he came out but i still think warrior is the most honest of all the classes you can pick
>>746076237>encounter one trivial setback>immediately give upJust pet the fucking dog.
>>746076237>for hours????>>746076078
>>746075738My nigga....
>>746076237>>look up spear buildI don't have to read beyond this to know you are retarded
>>746076334>then after super staggering spam that charge up fire moveOh yeah I know that feel. Pretty fun. It was like the bell for warrior. Once you get it it just chunks bosses and it feels goodI also remember the Titan issues back thenWarrior is definitely the honest. But now Titan and Smith of Kitava turns him into an insanely ridiculous beast. Armor, HP, damage you can have it all. Only ascendancy more busted is Martial Artist.
>>746075636truethere is really no reason to play HC with instant logout being a thingwell at least it's better than D2R which has both instant log out and 40+ sec disconnect timer if the server misses a packet
Soonhttps://youtu.be/pOXMt5O4Ly4?si=YxY2MCRFYDopFolG
Still ain't playing til 1.0.
>>746076625For me it's Actually the current sword I'm using on my HCSSF luminary >>746075924Would love to see it in PoE2 if OP is real and swords are coming
>>746069524Crossbows replaced them.
>>746076689That's totally fair. It'll be free by thenI don't advocate people paying for EA in generalBut if you didn't get a key when people were practically flooding the board with them on launch day, well that's too bad for you. Just wait it out.
Oh jeez whiz I bet another one of these Diablo clones will be totally good *rolls eyes*
Is this the Lily thread?
Would it hurt for an offline client?I don't want to trade, I don't want to be in the seasonslop race, I don't want to see other people in hubs or their shiny mtx. I just want to do build autism and grindan.
>>746076767Poe is so good that Diablo is now just a Poe cloneDiablo 4 copies Poe, Diablo 2 updates copy Poe, Diablo 2 mods copy PoeGGG dominates the genre
>>746076904You can do all of that, it's called SSF>muh onlineShut up bitch
>>746076905cool cool, sure sure, buddy.
>>746076904You can literally do SSF and never engage with online except for running the game off Steam which is already online
>>746076904Tencent won't let them. They need to datamine users.
>>746076887
>>746058275poggers
>>746076905>Diablo 2 mods copy PoeOnly median XL which is the lesser Diablo 2 modPD2 is where the patricians are
>>746076887>ds_Larry>>746077030lol
>>746076935>>746077008I don't think you comprehend the idea of offline play. Diablo 2 has it. Why can't this have it? Every other ARPG has a separate offline mode from ladder/season. Idiots
There is no reason to play anything but a Gemling.
>>746076417Is Attack Damage the same as Projectile Damage? Is a spear a projectile if I stab with it, or does it change damage if I throw it from Attack Damage to Projectile damage? Is a Explosive Spear a projectile in the air and when it lands or does it change from projectile damage to attack damage, or wait is that physical damage or magical damage? Oh fuck there's an ATTACK PHYSICAL damage in there, so is that different from ATTACK DAMAGE or ATTACK PROJECTILE DAMAGE? Do I want the skills that raise both? Do I want to focus on one thing?Okay so I can press Alt and read if it affects a skill or not, genuinely learning something here, doesn't really fucking tell me everything but it gives me a vague idea... so wait, I can't learn if a skill is affected by a node until I spend the resources to get the skill first and then check? So I need to absolutely make sure right now that I for sure do not want to ever *stab* somebody with the spear, I want to *stab them at range* with the spear which is a completely different damage type from multiple different damage types. Wait, does magical damage affect my skill damage? >spell damage no>but if it increases fire damage then yesSo, fuck, do I go down the fire damage tree if I want to use explosion spear? That's on the opposite side of the board but it affects all my skills, but is that better than just projectile damage?HOW THE FUCK IS THIS FUN I JUST SPENT 15 MINUTES LOOKING AT ALL THIS SHIT AND IT'S 10 NODES IN A STRAIGHT LINE ON ONE SMALL PORTION OF THE FUCKING TREE. Jesus fucking christ who finds this entertaining?>just type in damage anon!>there's only 189230123 nodes with damage>just type in PROJECTILE DAMAGE anon!>there's way less, okay so do I even want those?>SPEARS anon, search it!>there's literally 4 nodes with spear in itSo what do I do about the 400 nodes inbetween there that aren't damage, projectile damage, or spears?
>>746076904>>746077027It has been free-to-play live service game from the very beginning. It makes sense for it to be online-only.>>746077048The entire PD2 endgame is literally a copy of Poe
>>746077008>Steam which is already onlinei want to be able to play on my steam deck when i don't have access to internet though, like traveling or whatever
>>746077082It's 2026 anon, move on with your life every game will require you to have an internet connection. Do we like it? No, can we do anything about it? No.Stop fucking whining.
>>746058275Can you skip campaign yet?
>>746077095Have you considered switching to a game with a gun and/or ball in it?
>>746077095It's usually not that big a deal but you can easily just spec in, check your DPS and if it goes up you're goldenAs for patching to nodes find out what stats you need for your gear or just go with str for slightly more life. And then in between you can go for other nodes such as evasion or adding things to help your attacks like combining melee and ranged. You'll have overloads of gold any ways as long as you're selling things unless you're a gambling addict (as in literal gambling) that respeccing is nothing.
>>746077082How are you gonna buy stash tabs offline?
>>746077094Ballknower detected.
>>746077185Grim Dawn has guns. Shit those pistols were fun. So did Torchlight 2, I did a whole playthrough with just Pistol+Shield because games don't do that enough and it was a ton of fun. At no point during any of those games did I deal with 1/100th the bullshit POE2 slaps on you. How is this game fun? Where is the fun? You read menus for hours and hours and you better fucking know what skills interact with what other skills because that's super important! Actually is there a way to know what skills interact with each other? I can't seem to find that.
tencent chink shill thread
>>746077181No and if you ask again I'm breaking your kneecaps.
>>746077095Spear strike is melee attack damageSpear throw is projectile attack damageMagic is spell damageThat's literally it
>>746077295It's impossible to know anon, you're right, the game is way too hard, maybe you should close the thread now.
>>746077265>buying stash tabs>>746074872
>>746077245That's what fucked me on my first character. I was following a build on using Crossbow on Archer, really liked Crossbows because they were grenade launchers AND shotguns, but the build I was following was deleted and I didn't have enough gold to respec anything and I gave up because I didn't know what to do and it started to get annoying dying constantly.
>>746077295You still go on about hours and hours while I got multiple classes to maps on SSF without knowing anything and just reading for like 10 minutesWhat are you spending hours on?
>>746058275>black transwoman Gaming is dead.
>>746077312How you gonna do that you stupid flightless bird?
>>746077479See>>746059813
>>746059813Holy shit it happenedThey're trying to rewrite the narrative in front of our very eyesNot even a day or two to exploit the confusion
>>746077404This is truly baffling and foreign to meI went into a merc character way back when not knowing anything and still ended up eventually nading the shit out of doryani and the rest of the bosses at the time. Never really had friction and spent the whole time thinking nades were OP as I didn't even follow any guides just picking the nodes that made sense and path to those nodes
>>746063445>Literal shit eating, retarded moron.>MMO player.Everytime. I wish MMOs and their idiotic fanbase never existed. They were the gateway to all the modern microtransaction garbage and live service bullshit.And now ruining arpgs either RMT bullshit.You will all burn in some kind of hell. There is no way you won't.
>>746077489Ask my good friend Mittens to deal with you.
>we wuz kwayns of poe n sheeit
>>746077641shit he got long arms, anyway, when can I skip the campaign?
>>746077441Anon I've been in the menu since the start of my posting trying to do the shit people say to do. Yes you have hundreds of hours in the game and probably thousands in POE1 (lol no i don't anon you're just mad I played for 15 seconds and beat God in the hyper endgame tower my zeroth try), but starting this game having played dozens of ARPGs since Diablo and Dark Stone back in the 90s and it's a brick fucking wall of nonsense. I think I've stabbed 4 wolves the entire hour I've sat here trying to figure out how to play and what I'm doing. For all I know if I want to play a Spear character I should have rolled a fucking Witch and I'm doing 90% less DPS having not done that because I was stupid enough to click on the picture of the character holding a spear.It is actually wild to me everybody just says, "dude it's easy click the damage one and win game" instead of thinking, "wait I said damage one but there's 15 different types of damage you can do, that might confuse somebody".
>>746072591Simply amazing
>>746077691>lol no i don't anon you're just mad I played for 15 seconds and beat God in the hyper endgame tower my zeroth tryActually see>>746076036
>>746058275fucking FINALLY. jesus CHRIST
>>746077669Right this way sir
>>746077691Look maybe you can show some screenshots but even then I don't knowEven my 13 year old nephew can beat geonor with a fresh Amazon and he only is able to play when I'm around. I don't know what else to say. It really isn't that hard.
>>746077801ok I watched this for 7 hours, is the campaign skip soon or far?
>>746077598I wasn't playing a Merc. I was playing a Ranger. That's was my problem. I looked up a guide, saw I could do that, followed that guide, it disappeared, and everything fucked up. It didn't make sense I couldn't use the Crossbow on the Bow lady and I had to play the Merc when I didn't want any of what the Merc did besides crossbow. But for those of you that actually did try to help, I appreciate it. I give up though. Game isn't fun, and I don't have the IQ allegedly to find the fun. Diablo was fun. Diablo 2 was fun. Diablo 4 was fun for the first run and then I never touched it again because the itemization was fucking dogshit. Torchlight was fun. Torchlight 2 was fun. Grim Dawn was fun. Where the fuck is the fun in POE2? I'd ask if POE1 was fun but I have a feeling it's way worse than this.
>>746077781>jesus CHRISTNot yet. We'll kill him off in Act 5 or 6 coming with 1.0
>>746058275Are...white men banned from PoE now?
>>746077820You need this first
>>746074962you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, do you?
>>746077929I am NOT playing mixtape, I can't believe GGG would tie campaign skip to such a thing!!!
>>746058275Temu Diablo
>>746077919Are you retarded or blind?
>>746058275>add black woman to game>can't afford Debra Wilson
/v/ being extremely low IQ today
>>746078228PoE2 has a large following of literal retards that hate the game and shitpost constantly, you can feel your IQ dropping in real time when they are around.
>>746078179LMAO
>>746058275had the most fun during ea release when it took forever to kill hyena boss or that underground stone collosus
>>746069663Same. I have 4k hours in poe1, but I haven't even bothered trying to kill Arbiter is poe2 because I get bored immediately when I get to maps. The game is just not fun.
>>7460782911*
>>746077860i have not been able to summon up the will to play the new chapters w/o new weapons/classes, so i've only beaten up to da mad scientist guy. is it any good?
Is it worth a try right now?
>>746077295Poe 2 has guns, they;re juts called crossbows. The skills are guns, ie a machine gun skill, a shotgun skill etc. If you start as a merc, theres a bunch of crossbow damage nodes at the start and you just pick a skill you like and then shoot stuff. I cleared all content last league with a guy that used frag rounds and nothing else, not even using any of the things its designed to combo with. JuST BLAM BLAM BLAM
>>746078414wait for 1.0 imo
You can tell who's shit posting. It's poo 1 street shitters
D4 bad
>>746064082The internet has been invaded by sub-midwit normies and 3rd worlders a long time ago, and these tourists are poisoning any and all conversations with their media illiteracy.
total jeet death
>>746078620We need to build a wallA firewall
imagine playing poe for the gameplay and not the economy
>>746069663The endgame is still mediocre. Don't let the jeets in here fool you.
>>746078778This but poo1
>>746078323It's not one person unfortunately, it's partially >>746078535 poe1 f2pers who are mad poe2 isn't free, party Diablo fanboys, and part third worlders.
>>746078323This. The PoE general is filled with brown PoE 2 players wishing death on PoE because PoE players hurt their feelings. You can go there right now and see it yourself if you don't believe me.
>>746078691This like most people really don't grasp PoE is a social event you get into on league launch and play the economy as fast as possible to oneshot the endgame or RMT, if you don't farm mirrors in the first week you're shit and dadgamers slowly trudging through SSF 2mo in don't mean fucking shit
>>746069663>Too many games to play these days to justify dumping all my time into mapping.This is my biggest problem with the retarded end game design and the absolute turbo niggers that play it. >nooooo i need to waste thousands of hours of my life.Nigga hundreds is already too much for what's basically trying to collect CURRENCIES to tune up a gear someone already made, shit sucks beyond sucking.
my biggest problem with poe2 is that its 120gb
>>746078894>Don't like a game>Force yourself to play it>Complain others do like it and invest time in it>Try to make excuses as to how the game isn't designed to fit what you want to do instead of just playing something else
>>746058275>genderlocked classespass
>>746073274people always sniff out the few skills that are powerful and not weird, complicated, and overdesigned
>>746078934>Force yourself to play itThat never happened. Too many games and too little time, i only tried mapping in one of the early seasons and had my fill. Kinds dogshit how it requires a filter too. They learned NOTHING from poe 1. REminder that POE2 was supposed to be a slower game with less gear drops. It's literally on it's way to become poop of excrement 2 just like 1
>>746078973AGP troon
>>746078917Actual good complaint.
>>746079029Poo 2 players are now bragging about the excessive amounts of loot and how fast the game is after mocking PoE for years.
>poo1 players mad its not poo1 with better graphics>poo2 players mad its getting more like poo1
>>746079084Everyone is happy that they made the game good though.
>>746079157Game getting more like POE1 in every single way is not a good thing albeit
>>746076237>be me>I wanna play deadeye with spear!>play game>???>win gamewhat the fuck is so hard. the modern gamer is fucking pathetic.
The endgame rework still needs more rework. I prefer SSF so then when I get to maps I feel like I'm being pulled in 8 different directions at once cause you kinda have to do all the stuff to get all the the things and currency doodads. Its still feels a bit convoluted compared to other arpgs
>>746058275Call me when they add Templar
>>746079029So you played the game once, disliked it, and now feel the need to join threads about it to tell people... because..... ?
>>746079694Because it's a video game board in a video game thread and i dislike how they are turning poop of excrement 2 into poop of excrement one so i'm expressing my problems with the late game.And this bothers you because? Are you retarded? Underage zoomer? A fucking nigger perchance? This is logical.
>>746079927But you don't play the game, are too busy to consider playing it, and apparently have no interest in returning to it, yet you feel the need to tell us about it? Your first post whined about mapping which is literally all PoE1 is also about, so I'm not sure why you thought 2 would be any different.Move on with your life, play those other games you are too busy with, stop being personally offended that people like something and invest time into something you don't like.
>>746058275was really hoping for flails, I want to play a holy warrior so bad but sword skills might be cool. otherwise it's back to spin2win monk for me
>>746080034i just said i don't waste THOUSANDS OF HOURS mapping, you are retarded if you are that invested in late game anyways. I just do season, get sad that the game is turning into shit and wait for new season expecting something to change the same way it did early in the dev only to be dissapointed.
>>746080090I thought you only played once, was that a lie?
>>746080113I only grinded maps in one season with a Huntress, most retarded thing i've ever done. There's 0 reasoning that justifies that amount of time wasting mechanics and currencies when there's that many games to play. Basically turning the grind gear up to 11 just like poe1.
>>746080217Then don't do it? If you feel that too much of the game is "grinding maps" then maybe don't play the game at all?
>>746080217It's alright, anon. You were just another victim of Jonathan's lies. It's not your fault.
>>746072420This shit pissed me off so much.>Large amount of super bright fire>Accompanied by cackling laughter>Large wind up time>The fire isn't really that harmful But the bitch suddenly running around whacking me with her flamethrower is a one hit kill?It's like the reverse of good boss design.
The game is too hard.
>>746072693>>746072876>Progress further/faster than expected via proper application of action combat gameplay>PoE fags cry "zdps" because they only progressed by making their numbers bigger and don't understand why you're trying to fight something you can't trade to deathMost retarded playerbase
>>746081473I wish the game had more enemies like the monkey, he's exciting and oh so funny. They've nerfed everything so much it's hard to really find a time where you have to think, you just blast.
>>746081941Member when the gravekeeper one shot you? Those were the days... when poe2 wasn't trying to larp as poe and was trying to be something new instead.
>>746082012No it's always been poe, not sure what you are on about.
>>746082059https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKNmn6LEMj0Nah it's already as bad as poe1.
>>746058275I guess she don't need no man.
>>746082198It's always been poe bro, not sure what to tell you, it was never going to be giga slow fight one mob for 5 minute gameplay.
>>746082303>It's always been poe bro, not sure what to tell you, it was never going to be giga slow fight one mob for 5 minute gameplay.It was promised to be a slower more impactful game during the first patches EA and it's already a clown game. I hate this gay ass world. >fell for it again award.jpg
>>746082012Remember rolling
>>746058275>SWORD>BOWWell, which one is it?
>>746082303>it was never going to be giga slow fight one mob for 5 minute gameplayIt was that on release for anybody who progressed normally instead of immediately going on the market
>>746082351It was never promised to be that, you are falling for trolling and very very very early discussion when the game was a completely different project. While it was originally going to be a separate game they realized it had to be poe2, a successor, and they swapped tracks.Get over it, it isn't a slow game, it was never meant to be a slow game, it never will be a slow game.
>>746060253Why can't I play with friends and still not share loot or trade?
>>746082437i disagree, 0.1 0.2 were slow and had more impact and the game was promised to be a slower POE.But yeah POEtards are going to be POEtards , if the screen is not shaking in a sea of piss and shit while zooming all over the place for 9999 hours then it's not a real poe game i guess.
>>746082603It was never promised to be a slower poe, even 0.1 had mega speed with temporalis existing. 0.2 was "slower" because they horrendously overtuned acts 1 and 2.
>>746060236
>>746082351its a fundamental problem in the game design, it can't both be a slow methodical RPG and a map grinder
>>746058275I thought this game was supposed to be free to play. When the fuck is it getting out of paid beta testing?
>>746063445>have to play the game to get loot like normal people>NO I WANT TO SPEND MONEY SO I CAN GET EVERYTHING INSTANTLY WAAAAAAAAAHHHKill yourself, paypig.
>>746082775End of the year is 1.0
>>746082198>loot gamblers will unironically tell you this is good gameplay
>>746082857probably my biggest complaint about the game. I CANT SEE FUCKING SHIT
is the Best Boy making a comeback? they better make all the females salivate over him like they did in PoE1
>>746058275Until they fix ways to ascend this game can eat my ass.Lab will always be superior
>>746082948Sekhemas is a thousand times better than Lab, even dogshit trial of chaos is better than Lab.
>>746058275>act2>act3pass I will stick tot he superior Diablo 2.
>>746064082>I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED
>>746082948never got tired of the skeltal emprah>>746082972>look mom I posted it again
>>746082857made for tun tun tun sahur gamers
>poe2 thread>it's just jeets seething that it's not f2p and diablojeets seething in general
>>746074743lost.this game is so turd
>>746082995Don't get upset that people share differing opinions my dear european retard. Sekhemas specifically is a game within a game, a process you can work through and have fun with, Lab is you opening a website and following a map without any real combat or intrigue.
>>746083009Same as it ever was
johnathan promised a slower-paced game but it turns out not a single dev at ggg knows how to make a game that isn't zoomzoom the entire screen is now filled with lightning now hope your lootfilter makes a DING! sound
>>746083095>>746082857well he failed
>>746083095Only reason I even play poe2 over 1 is because wasd.
>>746083095>johnathan promised a slower-paced game
>>746083095That was when PoE2 was supposed to be a separate game, not a sequel. Move on with your life.
>>746082972This. Lab fucking sucks.
>>746083251The doomschizos just make up their own reality
>>746082663>horrendously overtuned acts 1 and 2What you mean is that legacy PoE players were filtered by the literal campaign because they never learned how to play an actual videogame. Then after being filtered they spent the time to overbuild their character because PoE is a game which allows you to progress vertically and brute force content instead of learning it, and all release since have catered to people who want to brute force everything with bigger numbers undermining any of the action gameplay they tried to promote>>746072420
celebrating basic features is pathetic, enjoy your p2w storage system, marketplace, gambling loot boxes
>>746083752I will, thanks for the kind words anon.
STINKY game
>>746060494the only reason “people” play poe is the judaism simulator and the scratch tickets loot system
>>746083965
>>746083967What about us cheese enjoyers?
>>746058275What am I looking at? A gladiator class/job? Doesn't even look like a gladiator. Looks like a mercenary fighting in a pit/arena.
>>746082441You can, it's called a private league.
>>746083690>What you mean is that legacy PoE players were filtered by the literal campaign because they never learned how to play an actual videogame.not just that but so many dedicated PoE1 streamers were complete dogshit at making builds int PoE2 as well. Like actual mind boggling stupid stuff, like one deciding he is going to make a build around X skill, and then Y skill exists which is a mobility skill with i-frames that buffs X skill damage, and he doesnt even put Y skill on his bars, just spams X over and over then complains when he dies. or this other guy who picks a ramp skill to main and then doesnt get the talents that let him ramp it. They are just dogshit at the games in general but could follow other peoples guides on PoE1 and make videos about them i guess
>>746084060New starter Class. Hybrid Strength/Dex melee. Plus the addition of 1 and 2 hand Swords and associated abilities.In PoE 1 he was called the Duelist, Rumored to be renamed as the Gladiator in PoE 2 based on the artbook.
HOW DARE YOU ASK FOR A BETTER GAME THAT RESPECTS YOUR TIMEIT WAS MEANT TO BE SHIT FROM THE START
>>746084329video games should not respect your time, the entire point of playing them is to spend time playing them, not to have your time be as frictionless and boring as possible
>>746059813Based.. so fucking Based.
>>746082437>While it was originally going to be a separate gameahemONE GAMETWO CAMPAIGNSTWO ENDGAMESTWO BIG SHITS
>>746063464SSF isn't a problem in PoE1 either. update your script. With all of the badzillion ways to access loot and power its more trivial then ever. Even preferable to trade where you gear up in a day or two and that is it
>>746074962(you) have never played SSF. Why are you lying?
>>746059813kek fpbp
>>746083251if they didn't intend for it to be slower, why does it take me so long to complete the campaign? checkmate ranjeet pooptub!
>>746074847>>746074950tbf the skilltree is pretty garbage in Poe2. Way too much nodes, both clusters and travel ones, with underwhelming stats or super conditional ones that activate once when the planets are aligned. The giga min-maxed builds either just end up traveling around the entire tree grabbing all of the jewel sockets they can, since jewels are much more powerful then nodes, or normal builds tend to be pigeon holed mostly into their branch of the tree due to high travel costs
>>746081893This image is so stupid it hurts. If you hold the toy in the same way with no variety at all the cat fucking gets bored. That's why you jiggle it, you lay it on the floor and quickly jerk it, you dangle it just in reach for the cat to leap at, you slowly zigzag it along the floor. Variety, to extend the fun of the play session.And that's ignoring that the image likens the player to a braindead feline.
>>746059813if you mean atziri she is like aztec
>>746084015>disguised
>>746069663i think the campaign is damn fucking good. i could replay that shit right now
>>746072647how do you lose to that boss? wtf hes the easiest nigga in this game by far
>>746074743FUCKING KEEEEEK
>>746059813Laughing at this retard rn
>>746074743accuratetired of rollslop garbage
>>746058275>black female bullfighter Is this the new class?
>>746058275>THE NEW KING OF ARPGS... POE2 !NOT SO FAST
>>746078315This.
>>746078841Mental illness
>>746081473HAHAHA
>>746082426This. I played a Bonestorm blood mage on launch on SSF and I actually enjoyed the challenge and pain that came with it adjusting and else learning as I went. Beating Jamanra with such a character felt so good. Now in .5 I can pick almost any class and blast through near mindlessly especially with the league mechanics giving you practically everything
>>746086308>modern "gamers"
>>746060253SSF is not balanced for no-trading-available. It is still balanced for trading, meaning you have to play meta or be a masochist.
fuck i can't wait to be in heavy armour with a two handed sword
>>746060294Anon, if the game's balance and drop rates are balanced around trading, and SSF is not adjusted/balanced around absence of trading, its just a worse experience overall, unless you play a class/type that can do everything on a shoestring budget. Its not fun, its not engaging.
>>746083967Pretty much. Its a trading & gambling sim skinwalking as an action rpg. Diablolikes took all the wrong lessons from D2 - gambling, trading - instead of things that made D2 actuallyg good and interesting - art, music, immersion and atmosphere, relatively satisfying combat, lore, straightforward gameplay. And they added convoluted systems to immitate genuine complexity.
>>746083690Do you have the one where a warrior is leap slamming and gets frozen in midair then raped to death?
>>746058275is that mathil?
>>746058275>swordWho cares. Melee always sucks in arpg's. you will always be better off playing a caster.
>>746058275Alright /v/Sword and board?Sword and sword?Or Sword in both hands as big as a board?
swords are cool in Grim Dawn.i remember back in the day how poe's melee was especially turboshit because their trash server was located in a janitor's closet in New Zealand and using melee attacks would constantly desync you. god melee in poe was so fucking bad
>>746092308>Beating Jamanra with such a character felt so goodYea my first Jamanra kill was like a 10 minute fight. If I was the average Diablolike player I'm sure I would have immediately abandoned that and gone off to find out how to get bigger numbers and stronger gear to bypass all of the gameplay, but the gameplay was only engaging because my numbers weren't high enough to just smash my face into it and win brainlessly. If you post footage of someone making a decent game out of PoE2 then PoE2 players will line up to tell you that you're playing wrong
>>746093048What? Some of the most played ascendencies right now are martial artists and Titan/Smith of Kitava. The literal most broken build in the entire game is a stacked HP Titan. Even if you don't think endgame, in the early game Mace swinging and heavy stunning obliterates every boss in no time. Geonor melts to warriors compared to other starting classes.
>>746093215Based
>>746093280casters take way less gear to do just as good.
is POE 2 good yet?last time I played was when they released druid and tried making a bear build but it sucked
>>746093469How? Worked fine for me>>746074629
>>746058275Still a shit game for obese no-life retards.
>>746093469>company known to make every game worse with every patch >is good yet?funny guy
>>746093529didn't work for meI've never actually beaten the campaign in POE 2 I always get wiped by the prince guyI don't have any issues at all in POE 1 though. I can get into maps, beat the atlas bosses
>>746093403Not really since they nerfed ES out the assIt was really broken before though so I get why
>>746058275is that Mathil?
>>746093215>Yea my first Jamanra kill was like a 10 minute fight.It used to be like that for most people until they nerfed the fuck out of it. And the other bosses and enemies too0.1/0.2 was going the right direction. Now the games too easy
>>746094045>Now the games too easythank god, I might actually pick it back up in that case
>>7460940450.2 was absolute dogshit, but I do agree they overnerfed them, bosses were ok in 0.1
>>746094109Why are modern gamers like this?
>>746094236full-time jobdon't have alot of time to play so it's frustrating when you're getting 1 hit killed and don't have the time to look up an hour long guide to figure out how to beat a boss or refactor your character to beat italso have they fixed the issue of not getting enough gems in campaign?
is 2 good yet?
>>746060494some people are masochists who enjoy being strung along. but not most
>>746094365>not getting enough gems in campaign??????What?There's like probably 3-4 new skills per milestone level gem you getCombined with your other existing skills you probably only need like 7 or 8 of the latest skill gem level and those will drop like candy that you can put the spare ones in storage then throw them out when you get the next latest level skill gems in campaign
>>746059813Based retard.
>>746094558I'm talking about support gemsskill gems you usually get enough of, but support gems were HEAVILY rationed last I played to the point where you can't experiment at all with different support gem configurations to see what works
>>746094778Dunno when the last time you played was, but this has been alleviated by league mechanics during the campaign.Newest one especially, it lets you pick your reward before you start the encounter, so you can just take the support gem options every time its offered.
>>746094778League mechanics I.e. the rune fragments on every map also help give tons of support gems too
>>746058275I literally told you guys Swords were coming in 1.0. Jonathan literally confirmed it back in like 0.3 or 0.4, why did no one believe me? The question is if it we get a second class reveal at Exilecon.
>>746095287That might not be for 1.0Could be 0.5.5 even
>>746093215Looks like a retarded version of some souls game. Putrid shit IMO.
>>746092546Actual liar. PoE2 is currently so easy that you can very easily clear all content as long as your build is rational. If you try to do something extremely, extremely off meta on an off meta class it'll suck.>Bu-No, literally dude. The game is actually too easy. Pinnacle bosses have only a few million HP and even mediocre characters kill them before they can do anything.>No anonYes. We know how much HP they have. We can see damage numbers in this game. It is currently very easy to one shot pinnacle bosses through damage reduction on trade. In SSF you can kill them in under 20 seconds with a pretty mediocre build>Yeah well I imagined a much harder version in my headFair enough, I guess. If they did actually put in uber pinnacles I bet SSF would have issues, but currently the game is flat out easy.
>>746095372I doubt it will be for 0.5.5. It is possible, GGG can change their minds, but they emphasized they would have events balance changes and modifiers leading up to 1.0, not new content. I also think it would be wasting marketing material releasing it early. The main problem would be a lack of balance and playtesting if they don't, but that is all content.I personally think 1.0 will be Duelist and then another class revealed at Exilecon. Probably Templar. Then Shadow and Marauder will have to wait until post launch.
no dagger no play
>>746092308>>7460824260.1 Geonor might be the best ARPG boss I've ever fought. I actually died to him like 10 times and had to learn his moveset to beat him.0.1 had a ton of issues, like the end game was actually so bad I am SHOCKED the game was released like that. I hated repeating the campaign. They completely fucked up meta skills, etc. However, the slower, more difficult gameplay was actually pretty refreshing and fun.I overall have fond memories of the 0.1 campaign but horrible memories of its endgame.
>>746095525This guy gets it. We need to go back to 0.1/0.2 when people struggled with Crowbell even
>>746095724>>746095694For me I remember having PTSD about the King in the Mist. Even now on HC chars I approach him very very carefully even though he's always an easy pushover ever since 0.3 but because I had that nerve wracking experience with him on launch, I still carry that wariness.
>>746095525>>Yeah well I imagined a much harder version in my headI player 0.1 when it was released. So i am going from that experience. I dont care how "easy" the game is right now - i've played it, did not like it at all. Gems changes sucked ass, combat got even worse, entire gameplay was a slog. And seeing threads and reading general from time to time and news about it, i am more and more set in my conviction that poe2 is just a worse version of 1, with GGG not having learnt anything in excess of 10 years of developing poe1. Its shit no matter what, and it would take a serious rework to the entire game to get me interested in playing it.
>>746095694>0.1 Geonor might be the best ARPG boss I've ever foughtNot beating souls accusations there, chump.
>>746095870Well your opinion isn't worth that much in an ever changing game if you only played the initial release. I think PoE2 has plenty of issues, I am just saying SSF is totally fine right now given the game's current power level.
>>746095694>mighty silverfist contemplating ways to rape you as you respawn and walk back to him.webm
>>746096040The fact that they nerfed his slam is very sad. I felt like he was actually becoming an iconic enemy.
>>746096080Well he is definitely iconic now stillBut as an allyTo one of the most broken builds in the entire game
>>746096174Well, yeah, he is hilariously retarded as a pokemon. Hopefully he gets nerfed.
>>746096246I felt bad using him that I switched to RakkarAn ice owl bear thing is cooler than monkee anyways. At least looks wise.
>>746093119I'm normally a big sword guy in games but in PoE2 having a shield gives a gigantic boost in survivability, so that.
>>746071550I don't understand how people can be this bad at video games?
>>746093119My favorite archetype in games is plate armor + two handed sword. We'll have to see if two handed swords or sword + board is better.MY GUESS is that Duelist will come with an array of shield skills, or possibly a new base type of shield that comes with shield related skills. They already added a shield throw via the new unique and it feels to me like that is just begging to be a skill gem or attached to regular shields (just without the ice slam). I can see them removing the shield bash from the current manual block and moving that over to some kind of 'Dueling Shield' or something, or just making it an actual gem.
>>746093119I'm currently playing 2H sword Scion turned Luminary in the PoE1 league cleaving and hacking through shit and look forward to doing the same or at least close to the same with 2H swords when they come to PoE2. Who needs shields?
>>746096923>console>lvl 33>with two teammatesLol.
>>746097092>console Actually PC with a controller>lvl 33 well yeah it's a new character and new class I haven't played before. I don't use build guides. It's actually now already 55 and in act VI and expect to be even further once I get off work>with two teammatesDidn't look up how Luminary works did you?
>>746097092That is called sovl, anon. You know, playing it like a video game instead of a currency skinnerbox gambling simulator.
GIVE ME THE FUCKING GUTS BERSERK ULTRA GREATSWORD
>>746076904I was thinking the same thing lately, I've been burnt out of MTX "live service" games for years now and I would literally give them 60 bucks so that they can fuck off forever after they've released all of the weapons. I hoped that LE would give me that fix but then the devs sold out to moneyhungry chinks that are now going full in on the "seasonal" angle while leaving the game in a very buggy state after each major update. After they fixed the gamebreaking stuff in 1.0 they should have just gone all in on finishing the story and then fucking off but I guess that every ARPG needs to be a seasonslop game. It sucks that the combat in Grim Dawn is so bad that it fucks up an otherwise good game but oh well.
>>746097259>Actually PC with a controllerWhy?>Didn't look up how Luminary works did you?Have not playedthe game for quite some time. I have a very negative opinion on GGG, poe1, and poe2 based on my direct experiences.
>>746097603Luminary has the ability to recruit a permanent mercenary that you can customize their equipment. The class itself doesn't give much power on its own, the power is in the mercenary who can be a support type character or a full on damage dealer while you support them.
>>746097603Because melee classIf you played more you'd know how good melee on controller feels compared to m/kb especially since poe1 has no wasd. But even with wasd on poe2 I still play my melee classes with controller.I also tried playing a Pathfinder with a controller as almost like a madman experiment. Didn't work out well :(
>>746078917This, I hope that they cut the size in half because there is no logical reason for it to be this fucking massive while lacking so much content.
>>746097487Its in the game files as a endgame basetype.
>>746097730>Luminary has the ability to recruit a permanent mercenary that you can customize their equipmentThats just a Mercenary league mechanic.
>>746098070i know i just hope its all in the same patch
>>746098375Yes, they brought back mercs. For every other character they are a temporary ally for that zone (and drop loot), but for luminaries you get them permanently.
>>746098375No it's much more than that. The linked skills not killing you in particular is insane.
>>746058275>muh swordzThat's it? Where are the other 3 missing classes?Will we have to wait another year to see the rest and the other acts?
>>746058275buy an ad poojeet
>>746098678Think the acts and the story conclusion is coming no matter what. But the classes may not all be there but at least there will be some new ones
>>746098414>>746098537Basically auraslut, except instead of relying on players to do fighting, you have a minion. Perfect setup for bots and botting. Just automate gameplay and spend time scalping and manipulating the market.
>>746098862Maybe people still bot somewhat but GGG did a good job at culling most of the bots via updates/patches but also just the market. You don't have to bot to set up favorable exchanges on the currency exchange and just wait for your orders to get filled.
>>746098862Not too different from the spirit walker ascendancy using silverfist in poe2 or even most companion/minion builds
>>746069663I mean I agree but I also cleared all content. If they want people to stick around then ground loot has to be less shit still and there needs to be more encouragement to play a 2nd character. You should be able to skip the campaign within the same season for instance if you've done it once.
>>746099094I personally think waypoints should just be account wide for the season so you can speedrun a second character. I am pretty firmly in the no campaign skip camp, but I do agree it should be sped up more for 2nd characters that isn't just "I can afford some mediocre twink items"
>>746098787bet they will come with only 2 ascendancy as well lelearly access was a grave mistake
>>746098678Things confirmed:1. The conclusion to the campaign, they already said that 1.0 is based primarily on having the whole campaign + functional endgame2. Massive rebalance of skills/passive tree but that is likely coming in 0.5.5 for testing with more in 1.03. Duelist (Swords)It is heavily speculated that a second class is coming too, but not confirmed. We'll see at Exilecon. However, the story is getting finished. It is lame that we're probably gonna have to wait like a 6-12 months before every class is in though.
>>746099680>2. Massive rebalance of skills/passive tree but that is likely coming in 0.5.5 for testing with more in 1.0What are some of the things in most need of fixing either buffing or nerfing?
>>746099809In general the passive tree needs a big balance pass. It is strange that the warrior part of the tree is filled with so many conditional buffs (standing still, on heavy stunned targets) or buffs with downsides (lower attack speed, less HP from strength, lower mana) but the monk/ranger part of the tree is filled with pure upside, speed, and damage. They feel like they were designed by different people, and I mean that sincerely. Energy Shield needs further refinement, they nerfed it but it is still the best defensive layer and they are not going to be able to design meaningful bosses if most players have 3k HP and then ES characters have 10k+ Blue HP.As for skills, I would say that they really need to address Hammer of the Gods in relation to the rest of the mace skills. They need to also just go through with a small mallet and just tap down some of the bow/spear skills that are used to just one button clear the screen. It is hard for me to say specific things because I think across the board numbers need to be changed.
>>746100083Bow and ESfags have had it too good for too long they need to be taken down a peg but good point on the monk which is probably why MA is the most played ascendency still
>>746100083>In general the passive tree needs a big balance pass. It is strange that the warrior part of the tree is filled with so many conditional buffsBeen like that ever since launch, melee tree being gimped is part of their design philosophy.This is wishful thinking.
>>746100786But swords are coming though. How does that work?>yfw thrown swords
>>746059813/thread
>they added swords>to an arpg>Bow down mortals, arpg revolution is inboundWtf am I reading?
>>746101138Its a big deal for New Zealand AA game devs, pls understand.
>>746100962lol, lmao even>How does that work?other classes will make better use of them
>>746101138It is a community meme because GGG opted to focus on Maces/Spears/Quarterstaves for melee before swords. It has been a long criticism from without and within that "Guys why does my fantasy ARPG have no swords?" and so they're getting added and people are happy and also memeing.>Why did they not make swords earlier?Because they changed the game to use WASD and so now all skills have the ability to attack while moving so they had to reanimate every single skill in the game which pushed them back severely. WASD was a good move (no pun intended) but not having swords was still fucktarded.
>>746100962You laugh but spectral throw was a thing in poe1
Is it good yet, or is it still for turbo faggots where you need a specific build to actually play the game ?
>>746101882It still is for turbo faggots where you need a specific build to actually play the game.
>>746058275>>SWORDShame melee is broken at it's core.
>>746101882If you want to go through campaign and interludes it's easyIf you want to map then you need specific builds
Recommend me a cheap and OP build to blast through the endgame. I just want to complete the challenges for the Aldur armor set.
>>746059813smartest chud
>>746102295Disciple of Vrashta. Use the dagger guy that causes crit weakness. Go ES. You basically are invincible and have strong clear and bossing.
>>746101882The game is currently the easiest it has ever been in terms of difficulty and thus the most possible stuff is viable.
>>746102415This. The runes of aldur practically shower you with crafting mats and even OP uniques throughout the entire campaign. You can even reset an area to reset the runes until you get stuff you want.
>>746060494>will have to wait 5 years for scythes to get in
>>746102552Not just that but moreso the bosses and most enemies and enemy skills are nerfed because players kept dying to them before so it's extremely easy
>>746059813Why did this post cause so much seethe?
>>746059813damn is it really that easy to get (yous) on /v/
>>746058275I aint playing this until scion is in, what's the eta?
>>746105958Probably 2.0 given the scion is probably the big bad in the end
>>746098387what are the chances that it'll just be a spin2win top stat stick instead of something with weight
>>746105167Yeah being retarded get's you (You)'s and that was always the case
>>746102162meleefags are all genuinely just bad at the game
>>746108295So true>>746071550
>>746063252People have absolutely no issue clearing the very hardest content in SSF every single time they try.
>>746063464People clear PoE1 SSF while running absurd difficulty mods in hardcore SSF.
>>746063773You're just being dumb. Their version numbers don't work like that.
>>746059813Same but wrong thread.
>tfw the best mace skill in the game is fucking SHIELD wall
>>746073591>>746066756>>746074831Grim Yawn is not fun to play. I have been tricked by you people pretending to like that game 3 times, I won't be tricked again.
>>746069663>I spend 4 months of the year playing these 2 games Isn't that enough?
>>746109404What wrong with it?
>Your ascension options are still Ultimatum and SekhemaSwords and duelist can't fix this.
>>746058275>entire update is>them adding swordsholy fuck dude, i thought they'd just do it on the side, not make it an entire update like it was hard
>>746111761What would you rather them be? What they had in POE1?
>>746117029There's no reason to remove lab at least; I'd gladly take it over ultimatum.
It's pretty insane that it takes years to implement a sword in an ARPG.
>>746082857the game needs higher difficult content real bad, it's so easy to outscale all the pinnacle bosses. like we can have uber buster tier builds but there's no ubers
>>746111761sword chaos trials should be easy enough.
>>746117029I played PoE1 for the first time this league and I was shocked how much easier ascension was. I didn't need to farm baryas for relics for hours until I scraped enough honour res relics together to attempt a real run. Nor did I get raped by an unavoidable "minor affliction: you lose all defences and your movement speed is set to 0 and all damage you deal is reflected and you get bowel cancer in real life" node. When I died in the final stretch of 4th asc I lost 10 minutes, not 40, and I knew it was my fault so I left and came back in a couple levels and aced it. Sekhemas is too long and RNG heavy, and Trial of Chaos is RNG stacked on top of RNG and even in the best case scenario you need to beat it three times to get your 4th asc (it will likely take you four, five or even six if you're in SSF and have bad luck with fragments). With Lab in PoE1 I went through a few traps and killed an increasingly difficult boss three times, then I could move on with my life. No gay gimmicks at all. It was wonderful.
POE2 won.
Don’t care still playing spear amazon
>You can get Count Geonor's swordKINOOOOOOOOOO
Sawyer won.
>>746126757WMASSIVE W
>>746117029yes i would rather do lab over the 2 worst poe1 mechanics ever made, i can't wait for TOA to be the 3rd ascendancy option so we can have the 3 word poe1 mechanics ever made in poe2. ascending genuinely should not be time consuming.
>>746123240it's weird that poe1 ubers are still harder than every single poe2 boss, it's like they forgot hot o make difficult fights, ubers in poe1 are still a massive gear check too.
POE2 BROS WON
>>746058275>>746059813HE IS WHITE
HOLY FUCKED BASED
Buy an ad niGGGer
Did they ever fix the dogshit performance on console? I remember for months it was unplayable with constant stutters and lag spikes.
>>746129467YesAeons agoThey even had a new update or fix the screen freezing and gear turning bug that had to do with shaders
>Swords actually deliverActually kino as fuck
>>746128181I was a bit worried he would be troonlooking or brown but my worries are for nothinglooks even more kino than poo1 duelist
>>746126757Most uniques are dogshit, I'm expecting something like;>Level requirement 46>Adds (23-34) cold damage>Leeches 0.5% of physical damage as mana>Leech rate is halved>Grants skill: Count's Fang - channelled skill with 4s total cast time, first and second swings do 65% of base, third does 87% of base, can only be used with 30 or more Glory, 10 second cooldown
>>746126687So you can>>746077095?
It's kino.Thank you GGG and Roger Jonathans.
>>746130310You can scale uniques with runeforging
>>746129650Nice. I'mma redownload it and give it another go.
>>746073757In my experience it's not even really the passive tree that makes a meaningful difference, it's the handful of skills/gems that work particularly well due to implementation details/game mechanics in combination with getting a single item (that you won't know exists until you see it unless you read the internet) that was specifically and obviously designed to make a particular build viable. Sure, a couple of passive keystones are, go figure, keystones, but I'm pretty sure you could more or less do a random walk through the tree if you had the meta gear and not really see a difficulty difference in content.If you don't have the items that are providing build-defining mechanics though, you're just not really going to do any of the hard content.
when is the mac port for poe 2 coming? they said they are working on one. "w-why are you on a mac bro?" we all fuck up from time to time at least it's an apple silicon one. let me suffer in peace until it breaks okay
>>746125904>I didn't need to farm baryas for relics for hours until I scraped enough honour res relics together to attempt a real run.you used to need to farm 6 random spawn trials in yellow+ maps to unlock uber lab. that shit was gay.
