>game gives you overpowered items earlyKinda fucks up the whole balance, no?
>>746073741WoTC is powercreeping Pauper on purposeWoTC reduced the amount of commons in a pack on purpose
>>746073741How many years are we from Oko? You've had that long to realize out WOTC doesn't give a shit anymore.
>what it's just a 3 cost kill spell on a 2/1 equipment. That isn't broken.>Notice the rarity OH
>>746073741It will never not be weird that you START Fallout 4 with fully operational Power Armor.
>>746073741Isn't Tithing Blade still a better edict for pauper?
>game gives you overpowered skill too late
>kill rat>it drops 3 gold
>>746073741Isn't "of their choice" redundant? If it doesn't specify a target creature why does it need to say that? Is that a new thing they're putting on cards for retards?
>>746077705Modern mtg templating is about cutting all the text that worked for 20 years and adding shit nobody needs
>>746073741When did Artifacts have color?
>>746078548over 15 years ago
>>746077705>Is that a new thing they're putting on cards for retards?Yeah, it's "new" for foundations. You can compare the original printing of tribute to hunger to the newer foundations print. Then everything after foundations starting including "of their choice".
>>746073741>target opponent sacs a creatureIs that a typo? surely they meant the player who casted it.
>>746078548Since Shards of Alara in 2008
>>746078731>game gets popular without any attempt to make it more accessible>execs decide that it needs to be more accessiblePeople are willing to put up with the learning curve of Chess, but they can't just make a good card game and trust people have brains?
>>746077504I think OP is refering to limited, where this is like the best common in the set.
>>746079395yep! This totally confusing concept, that is actually clearly explained when the need arises, requires being clarified.
>>746080165>somebody actually made this card, got it through the soiboi commitee, and got it printed
>>746073741enters what?also, there's nothing impressive about that. the cost for removal is high, and the cost of equipping is also high for the bonus given.
>>746077504There are no results for Crude Bent Blade on mtgtop8 so this shit isn't even seeing play in pauper.
>>746080529Drafting two of these is pretty much a free win. It's not good for constructed but it overperforms in limited formats.
There's legit no reason not to go with green-black in the hobbit draft. So many black commons are completely OP in this limited format. WOTC fucked up by not giving white enough to go wide.
>target a creature of their choiceSo I can just target the creature said equipment card was attached to? Doesn't say anything about having to sacrifice a creature I own.Checkmate, wotc
>>746080529they rebranded "enters the battlefield" into just "enters" several months ago
Behold! The strongest mtg card ever printed!
>>746080674You can only sacrifice your own creatures.
>>746080757This thing is bonkers
>>746080757>4x 4/4s with flying and hastefucking retards
>>746080757I heard this card was broken, but this is my first time actually reading the text. Holy fuck what was WOTC actually thinking? I've never read a card that screamed "banned" so loudly.
>>746080024Yes, Hobbit Redditimited.
>>746073741idk bro I really like this thing.
>>746080757>everything on the card comes in 4s>mana cost is 3
the endless collabslop made me quit mtga for goodI hope they're happy
>>746080757This is what you get when faggots and women design something instead of reclusive, smelly autists.
>>746081029You think there are women designing cards?
>>746081006>I hope they're happyThey are very happy. WotC and Hasbro now have an army of funkopop collecting manchildren breaking sales records on each new 3rd party set.
>>746081029No woman on the planet knows what the fucking "Fantasticar" is. This shit was designed by a very stupid Marvel nerd.
>>746073741it's never not funny to see cards using non english sentence slike "when this enters" (enters what? the verb can't be used alone in the real world), but for rules like "equip2"that has been there for a decade you need the manual copy pasted on two line anyway.Also>using colored mana for artifactsI'm glad I don't play that shit anymore
>>746081063Melissa Detora (XX chromosomes) was the first woman to top8 in Pro Tour and eventually went to work at WotCCoincidentally, her design team gave us such awesome cards as Uro, Oko, Once Upon A Time and the rest of simic slop that made several formats unplayable that year.
I am actually amazed at how hard my interest in mtg has dropped due to wotc. I used to religiously browse gatherer when bored and look at all the cool cards, like for years, and now i barely look at spoilers.
>>746081063There used to be a woman, making great art for mtg, even being praised a lot, until she was bullied out of it for being too conversative. Now faggots women and trannies might not design the cards, but they give the instructions the artists aren't allowed to deviate from.
>>746081029smelly retards gave us ancestral recall, time walking and twister
>>746081219>the first girl to make top cut in a luck based game got a job offer
>>746080720they want the ebonic audience or something? how do they even translate that shit
>>746080757mtg is a collector product for investors now, they don't give a shit if some retard fall into the illusion the rules are meant to be played. It's just the cheapest beany baby scam on the market.
>>746081363it did not happen immediately and it happened many times before with male pro playersjotc is a shit company but there's no need to get your panties in a bunch>>746081365to reduce the amount of text, same way how "remove from the game" became "exile">>746081421>nowabout 30 years too late with that onereserved list entrenched this position in the 90s
>>746081191Colored artifacts have been a thing for at least 15 years.
>>746081219De Tora is a playtester, iirc.
>>746081835doesn't negate the statement. It's a garbage concept that should have stayed a failed season gimmic. Next you'll defend Planeswalker garbage too.
>>746081331>gathererthey nuked the comments after disabling them for years
>>746081889Ok coolI don't have the twitch clip on me but this pro player literally confessed that she did not think anyone would Oko +1 enemy creatures. How?!
>>746081502>90sin the 90's mtg was maybe a few undred thousand people worldwide and the card trade value was based on tourney results with a few meme exception.Now there's an industry on cardboard speculation that exists above all cards to the point company shits out AI rules and art to print garbo "games" every 3 months that are solely advertised by their imaginary trade value that was decided outside of the card usage (logic since nobody play that shit outside of actors on youtube).
>>746081986how will I get MasterOfEtherium's dogshit takes now?
>>746080757>smugglers>bankbuster>now thiswotc don't seem to realise that printing immensely fucking broken undercosted artifact creatures just results in them being banned
>>746082002The card that can make an artifact or creature into an effectless 3/3? I don't even play a lot of MTG but even I can see how that's a bit busted
>>746082762Yes, they thought you would target your own food tokens to make blockersInstead the card basically meant that the enemy can't have meaningful creatures on the board (and this is a + ability when usually planeswalker's removal is a - )That whole situation was mind-boggling as to how they just shipped this shit as is
>braps all over your cards>leaves
>>746082914mtg is what happens when you kill your original setting and can only survive by spamming collabs and immersion shattering behold-whimsy-and-fun that takes itself about as seriously as the teletubbies
>>746083086Mystery Booster 3 is full of deep cut characters that you'd only know existed if you read the books thoughever
>>746080993Makes more sense with 4. Probably was 4 originally but somebody pushed to make it 3 because they wanted Marvel stuff stronger.
>>746082281I can't believe I know who that is despite not having seen his replies for like 12 years
Am I a fag if my favorite deck is blue/red burn with Balmor, Lilah and Slickshot Showoff?T. Newfag
>>746081006I only liked Final Fantasy.Yea im the problem. Also i have never even played mtg lol
It is all EDH’s faultGod I hate """EDH""" players so much
>>746073741is this another "playtesters forgot how their own rules and wording works" card
>>746085180>+1 isn't even until end of turnI knew exactly where it was going when I came back and some fucker plopped a jace the mind sculptor down. Glad I quit again sometime after innistrad
>>746080757>>746080823>>746080892how often do you cast 4 non-creature spells in a single turn?-t hasn't played anything beyond backyard play in 15 years
>>746073741>Kinda fucks up the whole balance, no?The first rusty power armor you'll get given for free in Fallout 4, has more defence than even the most minmaxxed bullshit heavy combat armor setups you'll get well past beating the game.That's how broken FO4 power armor is.
>>746080165Sarkhan deez nuts
>>746085180oko was less that they forgot how wording works and more that every single tester hyperfixated on using the +1 on your own cards and then the -5 to swap with something else and didn't even remotely consider the possibility of elking your opponent's cards
>>746086051The classic case of "our playtester got lost because one path looped"
>>746086051i mean if playtesters end up with severe tunnel vision then that's still a failure on them as playtesters for not considering alternate scenarios which is what their job is supposed to be
>>746085941I don't know about current standard, but in modern/legacy/vintage with the abundance of 0 and 1-mana spells, as well as rituals that produce more mana than they cost it is trivial
>>746086145exactlyif that's who is testing the cards then it's no wonder why there's so many cards being bannedeven pokemon has better playtesters
>>746085941You can build your deck with a ton of cantrips which are 1 mana cost draw 1 spells. So it's perfectly feasible to do this the next turn after just playing it on turn 3, as an 'answer or lose'.
>>746086185>even pokemon has better playtestersPretty fucking easy to playtest for a game that has hardly changed since it's conception>search deck a million times>attach energy to your big chungus EX>attack>repeat this every turn
>>746085941You can play a bunch of 0 cost artifacts to trigger it
>>746086051Frankly Oko was only busted because his loyalty was way too fucking high. If he could actually be killed the turn he came down by creatures he wouldn't've been anywhere near as broken.
>>746086051>using the +1 on your own cardsHave these niggers just never heard of Beast Within?
>>746077219It's still sucks. Pauper does not want this.
>>746086320>Pretty fucking easy to playtest for a game that has hardly changed since it's conceptionUgh, back in my day we didn't have EX chunguses, a million HP, and the highest damage you'd do on average was a 20 hit jab
>>746080757>you may eat garbage for free during your turn>when you eat your fourth garbage in a turn, you win the game
>>746086709Even before EX the game still played the same but with even more draw power because no supporter trainer limits. You where still just searching for energy and items to make your dude hit as hard as possible.
>paupertards forced to bend the knee
>>746086936Aside from Giant's Boulder in urzatron nothing else in this set has affected pauper.
>>746073741Why is the set even draftable? 10 commons per color lmao.
>2026>still playing mtgI miss playing card games in person though but I really don't want to give modern wotc my money.
Honestly I wish they did an alternative game (there's already multiple ways to play the game officially) which specifically only has weaker cards. the most powerful being "medium" cards at best. (not talking about their cost but their abilities)Like special boosters you buy. Maybe at a price a little lower to attract people including regular players.
>>746087161Most people nowadays just play casual commander and proxy all the expensive cards
>>746081006When it fit and it's not too often it's fine, but when it's 10000 collabs which don't fit at all and are way too common, it's annoying.Though some collabs set didn't do as good, so I expect them to slow down a little on that
>>746087241>10000Whoa! What a big number!
>>746087196I think Jumpstar and starters were supposed to be that, but the recent ones had some powerful cards anyway
>>746087376it's game accurate so it's pretty funny desu
>>746073741is this that different to Cornered By Black Mages, which does the same thing for the same amount of mana at the same rarity, but with an 0/1 pinger body instead of the equipment
>>746087196Pauper. The format you are describing is called pauper.
>>746087446>Use something to flicker your artifact in and out>Use something to return sorcery back to hand/directly play from graveyardOne is significantly more costly and card intensive, the sorcery also costs two black mana which is another downside.
>>746087514Not anymore due to recent cards, even cards which don't have a lot of cost can now be very powerful. I don't think Pauper is about the cards actual abilities, just the costAs far as I know it's also not official, there's no "pauper focused decks" or "pauper focused boosters"
>>746087573Oh, the flicker effect. Yeah okay that's fucked up
>>746087591>As far as I know it's also not officialPauper is an official format. It has official events and the banlist is on the official site.>there's no "pauper focused decks" or "pauper focused boosters"Every set comes with commons you fucking numbnuts
>>746087446This is the better version
In the current game and commander, at which extensions/years of production the cards virtually unplayable due to being too weak?
>>746073741BG3 gives you Titan string bow in act1 and that retarded shadow blade cantrip which is better than all weapons right away
>>746087901How old a card is means nothing. Typically if a card is busted it stays busted. Only a few examples like Tarmogoyf have fallen off from sheer powercreep.
>>746088004Unique cards are, but they were really rare in the old game
>>746085941Lotus Petal is free and gives a mana, for example. Of note is that the car itself is a noncreaturespell as well, in older formats it's easy to cast this and activate this turn 2 or even sooner if you're in Legacy
>>746087959Titanstring bow is only good if you have a strength elixir to pop every day and farming those from merchants is just slightly more micromanagement than most people can be assed to do, personally i'd rather just stick to sharpshooter + dual crossbows. But yeah shadowblade is so insane i have no idea what they were thinking.
>>746086709>he didn't Pokemon Breeder into Blastoise for 50(!) damage turn 2
>>746085941It was trivial in 1994
>>746088004Nearly all creatures from early sets are absolute garbage by modern standards, including the ones that were more valuable/desirable at the time.
MTG art always is so nice, im not even playing that shit but always lurk around these threads just to see nice pictures
People will likely get upset at me for this, but a lot of what makes modern MtG fucking dogshit came from their early stuffStuff like Tolarian Academy, the free Counterspells, the moxes, fucking dual lands with no drawbacks are all horrendous designs that are not fun to play with or especially againstWhich is not to say that modern MtG designs are good, far from it, but people really have some heavily tinted glasses whenever you mention muh 90s and muh early 2000s
>>746088374This dude was like 20+ bucks when he was released.
>>>/tg/Fuck off.
>>746080757Apparently it's not enough to shit out some new UBsloppa every other week, they also have to make sure it's powercrept as fuck so nobody gets around playing these atrocious Fortnite cards.
>>746088634Go make another twitter screencap thread newfag, this is board culture and people actually discussing shit without getting botted or ragebaited to death.
>>746088374>>746088551It's funny how both Magic and Yugioh shared the same evolution of early sets having monsters that are low power with everything else being insane.
>>746088860Yea they really overvalued how much pressure creatures gave. Or when they made a really "powerful" creature have upkeep costs to balance it out
>>746088634what's the matter little boynot enough mentions of trannies for you?
>>746073741As a YGO player who is getting fed up with constant powercreep, an equip card that forces your opponent to choose a card to send to the graveyard is an absolutely ridiculous effect. AND I want it.I however, know nothing and Magic. I just like looking at the art sometimes.
>>746089632Dont know much about yugioh's current state but i'm willing to bet that it's better than magic at the moment.
>>746089842I hope so. Every new set is just "The best ever" and anything that's older than 6 months isn't worth playing.
>>746081116>This shit was designed by a very stupid Marvel nerd.his name is mark rosewater fyi
>>746089842Yu Gi Oh is just as shit, especially as a westerner since every common card that ends up seeing play in the Japanese version gets artificially promoted to some $50 secret rare chase card for the western release
>>746089842The main game's still a bit of a mess even if the last few banlists have been decent, and is due to go directly to hell if they don't preemptively do something about the new Toon support that's been tearing up the OCG with first turn kills and the capacity to set up absurdly powerful boards even if the FTK fails, but on the other hand Genesys is actually a pretty great format so far and the new deck build pack archetypes are all pretty creative and interesting.
>>746088860It's not quite the same. YGO's early creatures aren't just "bad", they're vanillas which are mathematically never in consideration.
>>746073741Even though the M79 is my favorite weapon irl and I love using it in every game it appears in, I am inclined to agree.
>>746090968Early YGO wasn't entirely vanillas, and MTG had plenty of those too.It's more that even the stuff with abilities tended to be on the weaker side with a couple exceptions (which in both games tended to be cheap staples and not expensive high-mana/tribute monsters)
>>746091339>and MTG had plenty of those too.MTG was made for limited. A low ATK vanilla in YGO would never see play anywhere.
