Huh? What were you saying?
Is there an unironic way to enjoy Genshin's story? I really like about anything in this game with the sole exception of the archon quests. They just go on forever, the pacing is absolutely dogshit and most of the dialogue is meaningless or non-substantial nonsense.
>>746079113No. There isn't a single gacha game with an interesting story.>b-but this one because it has lots of [despair/suffering/le totally original scifi twist]!!!No.
>>746079113You're too zoom-zoom-brained. Sorry anon.
>>746079113I wish there was an option to skip cutscenes
>>746079113As a Genshin fan, the Naruto levels of story filler is the one big flaw it has. And I've almost quit many times. At least since Natlan it's gotten better because they actually have most of the story focus on the characters. And the events are much shorter than the shit in Sumeru. But it took them 5 years to figure that out. And it's still far too long.In short: no. Unless you love endless dialogue. There's a small but dedicated fanbase for that.
>>746079113wait 10 years for some diehard fan to make a standalone hacked version
>>746079194This is the preset Hoyo shill answer to anyone that doesnt like Hoyo's slop writing>Hueh you are actually a tiktok zoom zoom you are not BIG BRAINED like me to REALLY understand itKill yourself retard. Those stories are fucking pure slop. Padded as fuck for the sake of extending your time spent on the game. Find a professional writer and make him review Genshins writing and see what they will tell you.
I've spent like $300 on this game but the unskippable cutscenes make me stop playing
>>746079476Even most fans of the story admit it's way too long. It's the most talked about thing on the official forums (after where's my Keqing banner and fangirling over the bishounen men).
>>746079476>Padded as fuck for the sake of extending your time spent on the game.Anon please think before you post. Genshin is not an MMO. miHoYo has literally zero incentive to keep you playing as long as possible. The only incentive a gacha developer has is making their game a daily routine for you.A long story does not do that. Not even the most casual players are dragging out the story over a month. A vast, vast majority complete it within a few days.Your entire argument is one of ignorance. Concession accepted.
>>746079113The main story is legit shit and i never do it, fuck their 500 primos bribe each patchJust read world quests which are decent enough to be jrpg tier
>>746079953>Just read world quests which are decent enough to be jrpg tierYeah, I also like those and character quests
>>746079845The only incentive an MMO developer has to keep you playing is enough to keep you invested to pay the next subscription fee or to get you to pay for new skins/mounts/weapons. Genshin has the same system. Though it baffles me that they thing thousands of hours of story filler keeps you invested. If anything it makes many people leave. But maybe they figure that the small group that stay are the hardcore fans who will keep paying. And it actually is working.Some of their other games have drastically reduced the amount of story time and focused more on small gameplay loops. And it's working for those games too. I wish they'd do this to Genshin. But I guess they figure they shouldn't change the formula while it's still working.
>>746079845>miHoYo has literally zero incentive to keep you playing as long as possibleSo why doesnt the story has a skip button then?
>>746079231I don't even want to skip cutscenes I just want the dialogue to skip to the next line when I press the fucking confirm button. Why do I have to wait 2-3 seconds after each line to skip to the next one? Half of these lines aren't even saying anything important. I understand they do it to keep you engaged but holy shit, what an obnoxious fucking cunt do you have to be do implement dialogue in such a way? It straight up feels like when you're operating a modern software on 20yo hardware, it's just aggravatingly slow and unresponsive experience that makes you wanna drop it altogether.
>>746080526People have been asking for a skip button since Liyue. Hoyo has added it to their later games. But not Genshin for some reason. Their newer games also have like 10x less story.
>>746080261It's really not the same design structure. Everything about gacha games is temporary. Look at pretty much any MMO story and you see the main cast of characters stays pretty consistent. This isn't true for gacha games. The "main cast" cycles out on a regular basis because the developers have a very strong incentive to do so. The story is not what gets you invested in a gacha game. It's your account. Your collection you've accumulated over the years.>>746080419Because Genshin Impact is viewed as an important cultural export by the Chinese people. Yes really. You will not skip the Chinese writing.
>>746079236This pretty much. Though to add, I find the side quests and world quests that doesnt involve the main story to be more compelling and more put together, which makes I find more enjoyable, strangely enough.
>>746080693>Look at pretty much any MMO story and you see the main cast of characters stays pretty consistent.Final Fantasy XIV is even worse than Genshin with what you claim. They'll pretend to kill half the cast of the previous expansion and then forget about the others, just so they can move onto the next area/characters. Then magically try to bring the old characters back at the end of the expansion story. Many other MMOs do the same thing. Genshin has their own variety of this. But less pretending to kill characters and more bringing them back for extra events.
>>746079167nah limbus's is good, but only if you've played the two previous non-gacha games.
>>746080868>Final Fantasy XIV is even worse than Genshin with what you claim.It's really not. The main cast has remained pretty consistent since 2.x/3.x. Some got killed off, some new members replaced them but at the end of the day the same handful of characters have been consistently present for about a decade.Story-wise the archons are some of the most important characters in Genshin but how often do they actually do anything outside of their region's story that actually lends to the overall plot of the game? Zhongli shows up more often than anyone because all hail glorious China but even then a vast majority of his appearances are basically just consultation or forcing Chinese culture down your throat.
>>746081042John Lee doesn't even do shit for his own country let alone anyone else. In terms of actual useful to the story and others it goes Nahida>Columbina>Venti>Mavuika>power gap> Furina (Neuv) > John Lee > power gap > Ei
>>746079167More like >This one because it steals from western canon, which I haven't read, but I know it's deep
>We want the nikke audience>But we're NOT going to give you a close-up view of Loom's bloomer-clad ass as it vibrates from the gun recoilWhat was even the point, then.
>>746081042>most of the cast has remained consistent>killed some, many changed, but it's consistent!Tuta and that gag character with the glasses showing up for every post story arc is not really the "main cast."
>>746079113I don't think so, nowadays I usually just put a movie or something while letting archon quests play in the background.Issue is that even if it were presented in a more digestible way, it's still a chink gacha story with no stakes and no possibility of any significant conflict involving any of the pullable characters. It's not written to be good, it's written to sell you the characters.Just play the world quests, like other anons suggested.
>>746081240>We want the nikke audienceI feel like Lauma, Shenhe and Varesa was their attempt at that. And they didn't go far enough (but I understand why).
>>746081146>John Lee doesn't even do shit for his own country let alone anyone else.that's the point of his character and story though liyue is supposed to let go of him and start managing on their own so he can go on vacations to fuck others archons
>>746078238Pure sex. Could have sworn her tits were smaller the last time I saw her though.
>>746081240I'm still surprised that they went through the trouble to give her a magic train, rather than say "oh, she actually had one all along, just like the boat." Having her say "well, you didn't ask" when called on such an asspull would've been worth it.
>>746081265>retardEven the secondary cast of characters in XIV have more relative screen time and impact on the overall story compared to most main characters in Genshin.This is something that happens in nearly every gacha game because the story revolves almost entirely around the self-insert player character and the rest of the cast exists temporarily(when they're being sold to you) to solve the current problem and suck your dick before fading into obscurity to make room for the next dick sucker. There isn't a single character in Genshin who has consistent presence and contribution to the story other than the Traveler. Not even Paimon had any real relevance other than 1.x and now six years later she's finally getting some degree of growth.
>>746081146Did you not follow the story? Granted a lot of his stuff was in character stories and events. But he's actually done a lot of fixing and meddling in the world's affairs. Even helped Nahida a few times. But he keeps it undercover. Because he wants the people of Liyue to govern themselves.Almost every time he shows up, it's the same story. "Yo traveler. I'm just drinking some tea and totally chilling. Oh, and you should totally not go to [x] location and investigate this crazy old god that just woke up. I can handle it...Oh, you'll go? Okay. I'll just sit here and drink tea."
>>746079113The main story has been actually really good for a while now. There is no "unironic way to enjoy" things if you're a zoomer who just wants to bing bing wahoo and have no attention span to even read a couple sentences at a time.
>>746079113You sound, act, think and talk like a dirty zoomer.Suicide is the only way for all your problems
>>746079167I will forever remember Little Princess even if I eventually dropped the game.https://youtu.be/ReLRjdnGPx8
>>746082901>to even read a couple sentences at a time.>a coupleThis is the developer that bragged they hit 40 million word count...in Sumeru. We're three regions past that so the word count is probably like 60 million now. It's not an overestimate to say the game probably has 2000 hours of reading just dialogue.
>>746083421>It's not an overestimate to say the game probably has 2000 hours of reading just dialogue.That's a huge overestimate. All the archon quests combined still amounts to a little over 100 hours and there are only a handful of sidequests that take several hours each.
>>746083839>All the archon quests combined still amounts to a little over 100 hoursComplete bull. Just doing the main archon quest for just Sumeru is probably half that. And then there's side quests in Sumeru way longer than the main archon quest. Just the Nara junk is easily 200 hours.But even if you don't want to believe my estimates, just listen to the word count the developers themselves gave. And calculate how long it would take to sit through 40 fucking million words. Especially with a 5 second delay between each text box.
>>746084582>Complete bull. Just doing the main archon quest for just Sumeru is probably half that.Incorrect. Numerous people have timed the entire story with auto play(which is slower than manual for anyone who isn't at a first grade reading level.)
>>746078238Sometimes i forgot that sandrone is freminet mother
>>746084805If this chart is accurate, which I highly doubt since it's probably not taking into account all the movement, extra dialogue with in between NPCs and incidental stuff going on between cutscenes, you seriously are going to say 15 hours to get through three quests is not padded? But then you also claimed this>and there are only a handful of sidequests that take several hours each.Just the last optional quest we did to close out Nod Krai took hours. And that was short compared to the ones in Sumeru and Fontaine. And again, the Nara shit was WAY more than a couple hours. And many more chapters than the main story in Sumeru. Not to mention all that shit in the desert.And we're not even going into stuff like in Fontaine where if you only count the dialogue in the main quest, you might come out with 2 hours per story event. But you're overlooking all the detective mini games, extra dialogue if you get things wrong, stuff the NPCs say outside of the cutscenes, etc. You know...the vast bulk of the games dialogue.Your disingenous argument is like saying a Final Fantasy game only has an hour of cutscenes because you only count the FMV sequences. Then overlook the 20 hours of in game dialogue scenes and 20 more hours of NPC dialogue.
Sandrone's new look is U G L YThey need to add the option to play as her pre-"death" costume officially.Same with Wanderer.
>>746078238>>746086585God I love big titties
>>746085428>>746084805There are some quest where you have to beat the world quests and some character's personal quests if you want to know what is going on without pausing to click the wiki-glossary that appears on the upper right. Some of which will take as long as an entire chapter.Hell, I actually did all of the Narzissenkreuz world quests and I had to stop to review what happened there during Sandrone's story quest.l because that was like a year ago.Some quests were time limited and the only way to know some character's revelence is by fucking off to youtube. I started with 2.0 so I had no clue who Scaramouche was nor why I had to give a shit. I'm sure plenty of people who started recently that missed Albedo's mountain and Durin's simulanka event have no idea what the hell that interlude was about when they eventually get there. As far as they are concerned, suddenly a talking spyro reject is important enough to be the key part of that story.
>>746079113not really. Don't ask me why, but Hoyo only seem to hire the most braindead writers alive. It seems extremely wasteful to me, considering the production values of everything else. They had a real opportunity to make amazing games but the writing really does drag everything down massively.
>>746086968Pretty much. I've been playing since launch and tried to keep up with stuff (making sure to do all the time gated stuff). And I still missed a couple. The Albedo one and the Keqing one. And so I still don't understand the hype those characters get. Still to this day people fawn over them as some of the best characters in the game. And I'm like "I guess...?"It's a double edged sword that not having character stuff be forced in the main story helps you want to do more of the games optional stuff. But then making it only available for 2 weeks and then it's gone forever means you'll eventually miss something. Even if you're a dedicated player. They really should have an option to go back and do them. Other games let us download old content. It's weird this one won't.
I do not intend to defend long drawn out wordslop stories, but if you dislike a story to the point you ask for a button to skip it, why don't you just go play another game?
>>746087691Genshin still has the best exploration of all the open world gachas, the competition just can't manage to match it. So it's all the more annoying that quite some of that exploration is stuck behind hours of wordslop.
>>746085428>If this chart is accurate, which I highly doubt since it's probably not taking into account all the movement, extra dialogue with in between NPCs and incidental stuff going on between cutscenesThat's a close approximation of how long the quest will take if you're actually focused on the quest. It's reasonable to add a few minutes here and there to account for afk time or small breaks but that shouldn't account for more than maybe 5-10% of your overall questing time.>>746085428>Just the last optional quest we did to close out Nod Krai took hours. And that was short compared to the ones in Sumeru and Fontaine. And again, the Nara shit was WAY more than a couple hours. And many more chapters than the main story in Sumeru. Not to mention all that shit in the desert.Again your exaggerating how long quests actually take to complete. There's a lot of variance in certain quests(for example many of the desert quests involve a ton of exploration because you can't explore shit in the desert without doing the quests) but if you're going to resort to artificially padding quest duration because it involves standard open world exploration gameplay you're being a disingenuous retard and there's no point in having a discussion with someone so reliant on dishonesty.
>>746087691Partially sunken cost. But also partially because I like everything else Genshin does. It's just the story that is its one big flaw. It's kind of like I can enjoy a JRPG when I like the characters, combat and world building, but still dislike the story. The problem in Genshin is it isn't an 80 hour game but a 2000 hour one. That continues to grow. So it's getting harder and harder to justify sticking with it.
>>746087840>That's a close approximation of how long the quest will take if you're actually focused on the quest. Uh no. Just how long it takes to sit through the cutscenes. You remember there's a lot of walking, exploring, combat and NPCs to talk to in between all that, right? If you're just warping past all that, then you're making the game worse.>but if you're going to resort to artificially padding quest duration because it involves standard open world exploration gameplay you're being a disingenuous retard and there's no point in having a discussion with someone so reliant on dishonesty.>I admit there's tons of stuff going on between the dialogue segments like exploration and gameplay. But if you're going to count those then you're just a disingenuous assholelol okay. Sorry for actually playing the game and not just warping to only the cutscenes.
>>746079113Ignore the AQs and read the WQs.They're wordier but the characters are more fun for the most part.
Why would anyone play this garbage when you could be playing Wuwa?
>>746087952>Uh no. Just how long it takes to sit through the cutscenes.You stupid retard that's not just cutscene duration. That's total quest time. The timer does not start and stop for text, it's the time it takes from the moment you begin until the moment you complete the quest. There are numerous people who have compiled this information and they're all fairly similar in duration.>fallacy>immediately after being called out for dishonestyConcession accepted.
>>746088052Because after skipping the dogshit story all that's left is bad exploration that's even more of a boring checklist than in genshin but with better graphics and a level of powercreep in endgame content that's honestly disgusting.
>>746088052Shin...
I have C6 Amber, Kaeya, and Lisa.Please tell me they will get buffed.The latter two could get the stellar cryo reaction.Amber... I don't know.
>>746088237Khaerniah gets solar reactions, trust the plan
>>746087283My old lady pirate captain can't be this cute!
>>746088237I could see Kaeya getting buffed around Khaenri'ah. Lisa I expected to be buffed by now. Amber... I'm really not sure what they could even do with her because she would need her entire kit changed. At least Kaeya and Lisa already have pretty good kits that would be easy to improve.
>>746087283>kekaHer lantern rite and moon event was pretty meh, too boring and bitchy, she was liked a lot early on because of her design and gameplay tbf.>albedoMostly if you're a lorehead, associated with the whole dragonspine related plot line. Plus mondo pandering. Maybe it's some nostalgia but he's an alright dude for a GI male characterFor me it's the alpedo headcanon, prune make it ressurge for a bit
>>746084805what the fuck happened at>Liyue>Sumeru>Nod Krai
>>746088073>it's total quest timeAnd what is the "total" quest? Just warping to the story events? Also factoring in the combat and puzzles and stuff, which everyone does at a different rate? What about additional NPC dialogue?The problem you have is that you originally claimed it was just the dialogue. And once I pointed out how there's many other things in between each cutscene, your argument has shifted to "no, it's the whole quest!" Thereby shifting the whole argument which was originally about how much dialogue was in the game. And thereby weakening your original argument.>fallacy>immediately after being called out for dishonesty>Concession accepted.It's always the people so sure of themselves which run into the wall like Wily E Coyote.
>>746087823>>746087841Fair points
>>746079113Not really. Even I get distracted so much by social media. I would open TikTok, X, or 4chan in the middle of cutscenes. Then it will take me an extra week to complete the most recent stories.
>>746088545>Liyue80% of it is Chinese culture bullshit. Easily the weakest archon questline in the game.>SumeruFeedback on Inazuma was pretty negative because it felt so rushed. They gave a lot more time to developing Nahida and her situation than they did Ei.>Nod-KraiThey realized having a ton of very important lore tucked away in sidequests and books that a lot of people ignore wasn't the best move so they had a lot to catch up on as far as important lore-relevant information went. This is why the entire Nod-Krai series touched on so many important figures in numerous different regions.>>746088645>And what is the "total" quest?Jesus christ just shut the fuck up already. Any reasonable person would have immediately understood what "no it's not just cutscenes and dialogue it's the whole quest" meant.>originally claimed... argument has shiftedMore dishonesty. Concession remains accepted.
If the character has tits too big I get distracted and can't play...
>>746088545It's more about what happened in Inazuma. Covid hit and they were both under a crunch to get content done while simultaniously lacking the ability to do a lot of stuff in studio. So they started padding events with lots of dialogue. The kind where they reuse animations (not fully animated cutscenes but just the characters standing in an area talking). And something that could take 10 lines of dialogue would turn into 150. Especially all those scenes with Kokomi.Anyway, this was so effective at padding out the game, they kept doing it. With Sumeru by far being the worst. That guy is trying to be disingenuous by posting a chart that makes it seem less. By only counting main story cutscenes. And skipping over the non event cutscenes, hundreds of hours of dialogue sequences of characters just standing there talking, optional dialogue, seasonal events, commission events, etc. Just some of the Lantern Rite's would be longer than the main Liyue quest. Let alone shit like the Nara events.
>>746082901I agree that the main story is good now but only started being so at Nod-Krai. They admitted themselves that they fucked up the first 5 years by having regional plots be too self-contained with little to no overarching narrative points, and while the story per-patch is much longer as of Nod-Krai (like 8 hours of AQ every time it updates), it also feels a lot more interesting and competent. I just wish it didn't take them so long to figure out.
>>746088859>Concession remains accepted.Well at least you know when you're wrong.
>>746079113gachas are made for jerking off, check /vg/ they only post porn in those threads.even on twitter it's either self insert porn or shipping porn.these games are not for playing or story, i was literally bullied when i refused to jerk off to the characters
>>746088954While it's really devisive, I think the story got good in Natlan. Not that the plot was anything amazing but that they actually learned to make most of the main story focus on the actual fucking main characters. And not have 90% of it be some random NPC you hear their 300 sentence life story about and then go kill 5 crabs for them. Most of the story actually featured the playable characters, both main archon quest and the non archon ones.It also helped that many of the characters ended up being opposite of what I expected. Especially the pyro archon. I expected the typical hot head Tsun "fire" girl. Ended up getting a surprisingly level headed leader who actually was likable and had a powerful backstory. Though I hate her gameplay.
>>746088052listen, I'll skip playing the game, but I'll jerk off to the girls, deal?>>746088859was hyperborea ever mentioned before nod krai? khaenriah was the only big ancient civilization, from what I remember
>>746079113Your problem dude, the archon quest is great and the world quests sometimes are even better
>>746088545>liyue Dainslef AQs were after we finished Liyue but still act 1. Act 3 was also them cramming the finale of the act, so it included the cheld and osial fights in them along with setting up Ning and Ganyu.>SumeruEither they wanted to expand the amount of lore exposition, or they saw how people complained about Inazuma's pacing, either way they expanded it to 5 quests + the scara AQ(which is missing) and the usual dain Aq>Nod-Krai They took a filler year to rewrite and reorganise all of the left over lore that they didnt use or properly explain outside of lore books and WQs. Half of the quests and events are infodumps about lore for each region so they could set up hyperborea and Heavenly Principles for Snez. It also had to introduce Varka and co.Nod-Krai also combined SQs with AQs, so for instance >prelude was Ineffa's>act 1 introduced lauma>act 2 was Flins>Act 3 was Nefer>act 5-8 was Bina>9-10 is missing on that list, but it had to resolve the Sumeru lore and write out Dottore and the pyro gnosis fully while introducing Pantalone for Snez
>>746079113No. You really can't salvage this shit.
>>746088073Bro is still concession posting in 2026
>>746078238Where are the nipples?
>>746080419I unironically think that they don't add the skip button as an act of love to their story
>>746080526They added what you are asking for, literally in 7.0. Go to the options.
>>746080693I disagree, its true that it works good with the gacha structure, but some stories can be written with a shifting cast, and this can be a strong pointBtw the old characters are never totally forgotten, but if you are a player that skip the archon quest, probably you skip also all the secondary content where the other characters show up
>>746081042>It's really not. The main cast has remained pretty consistent since 2.x/3.x. Some got killed off, some new members replaced them but at the end of the day the same handful of characters have been consistently present for about a decade.dealing with the same handful of characters for decades is bad though. it makes you develop fatigue.
>>746078238milk milk milk MILKA
>>746090072Treating them like pump and dump whores like Genshin does isn't the superior choice of the two options.
Genshin has something like 80% too much text. It’s insane
>>746090158that's a problem by attaching the story to gacha you have to keep cycling characters to make people pull them and you can't use old characters because they're powercrept and possibly don't even have banners anymore
>>746090317Basically only genshin doesn’t do alternates of existing characters, there’s an easy solution to this
>>746090262And none of it is even enjoyable to read. Most of it is fluff filler that only exists to bloat the script to make you spend more time ""playing"" the game.
>>746090158Wuwa is the pump and dump gacha, genshin at least uses characters for an entire region, with some exceptions.
>>746089640>sometimesWQ are always better, narzissenkino saved fontaine
>walls of text, voicedi will pay attention to your drivel>walls of text, unvoicedif it's not important enough to hire a voice actor, it's not important enough for me to pay attention toSIMPLEAS
>>746090363alters feel like a copout, thoughimagine releasing bikini amber with a whole different set of skills that triggers the current shilled reaction, it wouldn't make sensethere's only so many bandaids you can attach to the gacha blister
>>746090363Not making alts is good, especially since they seem to want to buff older characters too.
>>746090363fuck off with your alt dogshiti already pulled that character, why the fuck do i have to pull it again using a slightly different outfit for a massive power boost? i will now uninstall your game
>>746089810I don't see it. You're just fucking with me, aren't you?
>>746090317They introduced the chronicled banners, they are "regional banners" and "thematic banners", basically a whole group of characters get a banner (if you lose the 50/50 you get another character from that banner (the pity count is separated from the one of the normal limited banners, and they use the same "fate" system of the weapon banner). In 7.0 Qiqi, Diona, Beidou and Miko are in the meta.
>>746090785Problem is the best story stuff has been these C plots in optional events. Like Ject in the desert or some side plots with playable characters that are time gated into one time events. Like one Lantern Rite made Hu Tao way better.
>>746090994https://m.hoyolab.com/#/article/45626770
>>746091601>he doesn’t know
>>746091659>vagueposting
>>746091601that's my favorite kanye song
>>746091358Nah I just tried it, doesn't work. Maybe it is slightly faster (I can't tell) but it definitely still plays out every animation like before.
>>746091684>he doesn’t know
>>746090861To be fair, there are games that still buff both the og and the alt versions of characters.>>746089342I'm someone else, but from what I remember >unifed region mentioned in Enka that it and Khaerni'ah mentioned >some lore relating to the name ajax mentioned it, later revealed to be some stuff related to a descender >remuria in fontaine mentions itMostly just books until Nod-Krai iirc
>>746091840I checked google, it is also mentioned by mary-ann (along with ys and arcadia), briefly mentioned in the ballard f the fjords weapon description and might've been the place where ziqiong wanted to explore
>>746091358It doesn't work well, people already complained about it last patch when they introduced it.
>>746092549Right, i forgot about th bp spear >ziqiongWould be fun if she appeared in a shadow realm at some point since that has ties to hyperborea
>>746078238
I'm starting to get fucking confused with reactionswhich one was glimmer again?
Genshin giving me a free Vesna, thank you standard rolls.
sex with fae women
>>746094315Collective term for Stellar Conduct and Stellar Swirl
>>746093834filled with motor oil btw
>>746094482>tfw no snegurochka
>>746094691>mingling with half-soul failed experimentjust fuck the wolf and fairy lady
>>746094684I’ll fill up her filter if you know what I mean
I haven’t completed everything yet but is the rebuild the one town achievement locked behind the archon quest or is it not possible yet? I’ve done so many quests now and nothing has involved that town.
>>746094792the fairy will do
>>746094691imagine
>>746078238>>746093834I thought cleavage was banned in china?
>>746094936I like her but after both Sandrone and Odette and needing to save for Anastasya, I can’t afford to pull for her.
>>746089757In my mouth
how the fuck do I fit Sandrone into my team, she's sitting on her ass until Mizuki runs outta gas
>>746095227>putting 2 drivers in 1 car
>>746095362it's a legitimate strategy!
>>746079113all hoyo games are filled verbose dogshit that exists just to pad the playtimeplay wuwa instead
>>746095879what's up with the new bot by the way
>>746095097CCP calmed down again, censor wave melties comes in waves but it hasn't been that bad since 2023 for domestic games. I know some CN releases got fucked.Plus those are mods but there's a legit titcow in the game with cleavage
>>746095992*cn releases for non-CN games
>>746095097It’s a mod although I guess Genshin isn’t quite as prudish as it sometimes got a reputation as
>>746095992>a legit titcow in the game with cleavagebut varesa wears like a sweater or something
>>746079113If you're already used to really bland, drawn out stories in games (as in, if you play a lot of JRPGs) then you'll probably find it more tolerable. That aside the AQ does have a lot of interesting moments, but they're sandwiched in between hours of dogshit. Even the "good" Archon Quests like Nod Krai (lmao) is dragged down by all the forced character story quests and the abysmal act 9-10
>>746094936I wonder if vesna and vodyanitsa's insane movement is gonna be region locked like natlan characters
>>746095992>>746096171Wake me up when its like that but not a mod
>>746096393I wonder more if Tsaritsa will get something like thatMavuika was like a jack of all trades in terms of movement
>>746096459the biggest thing we have is Lauma >>746081312
>>746096393it seems like vesna's movement is like scaramouches
>>746096393>vodyanitsa's insane movementwhat can she do?
>>746097169FISHPUSSY
>>746097169as anon said, fish pussyhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/wrupckNrV_s
>>746097592>skirk 1.5meh
>1200 resin wasted on stygian artifacts>not a single decent odette piece
that's right, we prefer ALIEN fish pussy
>>746098038is it really wasted when you get a feather for it
>>746098312WHAT THE FUCK CAN I DO WITH A FEATHER WHEN I NEED 4 NON-SHIT PIECES?
>>746094316Roll more for OdetteMizuki goes from completely worthless to passable with stellar swirl
>>746095097The love and deep space fangirls and the vengeful Snowbreak fanboys are in a reporting war so other gacha have been out of the limelight.
>>746095992LADS and Snowbreak got completely destroyed by all the reports to the CCP, I think it's a matter of time until somebody spergs out and Hoyo gets exploded unless their CCP affiliation saves themIt's also why I think Hoyo keeps appealing to both sides because they know one crazy motherfucker can bring the whole thing down
My clanker fatui harbinger can't be this cute
>>746099017>keeps appealing to both sidesI don't know what appeals to horny shut in women in Genshin Impact post Fontaine.They haven't made a character like Itto, Lynney, Wriothesley in ages.I guess Lohen could appeal to that crowd, maybe.
>>746099307love this gay clanker
>>746099457they build lohen with extra ER just to see him grab their hair more often with that burst animation
>>746099457Probably Noy is the upcoming one
>>746079113>bugoid made>story>making any sense and not being pure dogshitlollmfaoroflEven disregarding the overt female censorship and faggot pandering like damn bro, you niggas really just have no standards. Not even vidya either, webtoons etc., every piece of bug media I've seen suffers the same shit.
>>746099457what about daddy
>>746099307god i fucking love heri wasn't really too fond of her, but she grew on me so bad
>>746079113>Is there an unironic way to enjoy Genshin's story?The uninstal.exe
>>746100756>A Winter Night's Lazzo trailer"Meh. Cool robot though.">Arrive at Nod-Krai's adventurer's guild for the first time"Need."
welp... here we go
>>746100756I liked her in Nod Krai and I also like the retard goofball that is Columbina, but Sandrone being the focus in the summer event while separating them for a bit and her appearance in Snezhnaya made me appreciate her a lot more more as a character.I just wish we had gotten Pulonia along with her.
>>746100724varka is for homomen
>>746101568i'm fine with fagio, pulonia would be way too fucking big on the screen in combat
>>746101824I had little hope of ever seeing Pulonia on-field long before Sandrone became playable, but I just wish they had not killed him off entirely and at least used him for her ult or something. I have a weak spot for the "small girl protected by a big robot or knight" trope. Fagio is fine, but does not fit that role and is way less cool kek
She won. Bigly.
>>746103919Man this area was pure kino, they really should make up excuses to revisit old areas
>>746091750>>746093769Afaik it's only applied to new quests not old ones but you definitely feel it when it skips over animations immediately.
>>746101648Varka is for the self-insert man>lazy>powerful>drinker>makes the woman do all the work
>>746089342>was hyperborea ever mentioned before nod krai?I remember it being mentioned in some notes you find during fontaine's wqs, mostly in the narzissenkreuz stuff.
>>746103919about time she's useful at something
>>746103997They did a good job recently with the return to Sumeru. I would also be fine with them pulling another Inazuma island out of their ass and giving us something similar but new
Complete Succubus Victory
>>746104385Don't be mean now, she was useful as a teapot decoration
>>746101824mavuika's motorcycle is probably as long as pulonia is tall
>>746100237lolare there female characters that get this treatment? I guess they don't have fanservicey bursts in a similar way.
imagine if they turned Pulonia into a bike lmao
>>746099307
>>746100756I was lowkey obsessed with anything narzissenkreuz-related for a while, so sandrone was a must roll from the beginning. I'm pretty happy with how hoyo has handled her character thus far.
>>746103997I had to farm sceptres for a number of characters, it was always nice to fly down from that storm.
>>746080261yeah i had a goal of collecting all the archons, and i actually have managed that despite being minnow at best, but i definitely started checking out sometime after the lightning archon, and it's become a slog to even keep up, i've falled pretty far behind now storywise, at least theyy sort off let you skip to the new content.
>>746104746Nyoooooooooo
>>746104768sovl>>746104746soulless
>>746100756Now if only they stopped her from mentioning Bina every 5 seconds, she feels like an actual character in Snez
>>746099457Flins is better than all of them though
>>746104746total genshin death
I feel like they made Sandrone too much of a good person, she was lobotomizing people before, she moved on from the villain during Nod Krai to Rerir and then Dottore taking over the role early on, Pulonia being replaced by Fagio also hurts, maybe it'll come back as his own character later on.That being said, I do like Sandrone otherwise though, she's better by herself than being yuribait with Columbina, I'm enjoying her in Snezhnaya
>>746080261Honestly I'm not sure if it is a chinese thing or what but it's kinda ballsy to force people to read the story no matter what, like sure, you can skip ahead but you still can't skip the text and it's not like the story is some masterpiece, there's a bunch of retcons and shit
>>746105190>there's a bunch of retconsName a few.
>>746099017Mihoyo moved its headquarters outside of China specifically to avoid being this kind of drama.
>>746105269I meant to say " there's a bunch of SUPPOSED retcons and shit"Personally I think Nod Krai, Sumeru and Natlan were very mediocre and Fontaine only got good with the twist
>>746105648nk, sumeru and natlan have a pretty basic beat-the-villain-together plot in all of them. it's not necessarily an awful thing as long as they have enough mysteries to reveal along the way, and the characters are fun enough. but it would be nice for them to deliver something else in snezhnaya.
>>746105158She cut the tongue out of one agent that not only disobeyed her but destroyed an actual AI bot. The guy was asking for it.
>>746079113for non voiced dialogues just put some podcast in the background. for voiced you shouldn't have much problem but if you do find it boring, it helps if you play an hour of two per day of story content and not in long play sessions.
>>746106173I forget, that one fatui girl that was a shrine maiden worked for which harbinger? dottore? I remember her death being described as gruesome
>>746106263that one in the inazuman quest? I thought it was about arlecchino's predecessor
>>746106345I think she was a house of the hearth kid but she worked under one of Dottore’s subordinates?
>>746079113Story probably not. But you can enjoy the worldbuilding.
There is no way Alain knew what a pussy looks and feels like, let alone applied this knowledge to fashion one for a robot doll made to resemble his sister. Right?
>>746078238man I hate the modding meta. instead of having one actual game with all the characters looking like pic related, we get a dozen half games with 1~5% of the characters done that you can't even use without paypigging.
>>746079953Crazy how i personally remember every signle story and remember the emotion i felt doing exactly to the point of Natlan. Then i have simply amnesia. I barely remember the little dragon.
>>746106872>I barely remember the little dragon.There were like a total of 16 miniquests with him, aside from the giant world quest
>>746101507lol you wont be able to beat the duck
>>746106872The little dragon was the only quest with a choice that sorta mattered
>>746106747>"LORD ARTIFICER"Fully modeled. With a working artificial womb.
>>746079113You need to either be chinese, trans or a yurifag (trans)
>>746106747FULLYMODELED
damn those chinese trans yurifags
>>746107092What choice do you make with the dragon? The only choice in the game I remember was that fatui guy in sumeru who was kidnapping kids and you can choose to kill him or not
>>746096847>(You)And Lauma has the same size as multiple other characters. People just think she's the biggest because she shows off more (her clothes).Her breasts are basically the same as Shenhe or Varesa. And Varesa is the teenage model so hers look even bigger proportionally. Varesa also has bigger thighs.
>>746079113I've noticed that Hoyo's writing and dialog has a lot of meaningless padding. I haven't played any other chink gacha besides ZZZ/HSR/Genshin so I don't know if it's the norm for all chink gacha or if it's just Mihoyo, but it certainly isn't like this in Jap gacha. ZZZ's is probably the most succinct one of the three, but it still occasionally falls down the hole of throwing meaningless drivel at you. It was especially bad during the 2.X chinawank chapters/events.
>>746107647you can activate the apocalypse engine and get a bad ending which grants you a cheevo, then everything resets back for you to make the only real choice
for me its sex with illuga
>>746107857literally the most forgotten character
>>746106747Alain wanted Sandrone to be able to experience all life had to offer.
>>746107897not by anyone who matters
>>746107857who?
>>746108208the sex boy made for sex with (me)
>>746107663what the fuck does that matter when lauma's tits look massive
god damn it I'm playing the new NTE patch one of the characters has bina's VAmuh immersioooooon
>>746109157tell me about iti see chasca every time that horse girl talks in zzz
>>746109463ass girl
>>746109548a mare coincidence
>>746109638we got horsemogged...
>>746109824that's an angel
>>746109090It's just an interesting tidbit, showing you how her breasts look massive. But also Varesa looks even more massive because of this same trick of clothes and proportions. But they're the exact same size.
>>746079953Amazing how the only good, well written characters are the mob NPCs that are not playable. They are the only ones with any gravitas.
>>746107663holy cow (pun intended)
>>746100756I've been a Sandronefag since the trailer becasue I liked her look and the big robot (RIP big nigga, gone but not forgotten) so I saved all of Nod Krait to get her C6 and now she's my only limited C6.
>>746111110also all the enemies are cooler than most playable charactersoh look a fatui anemo punch guy he's all beefy but instead we get lanklet heizou
>>746113624Heizou? You mean Itto, who is supposed to be a fucking Oni of all things.
>>746114090As a harbinger, she too is responsible for the morale of the troops.
>>746113891I was comparing anemo punchersbut yeah if we're just comparing bodies, anemo boxer and electro hammer fatui are big and buff and make itto look like a wet blanket
>>746113891Itto had the misfortune of releasing before they were willing to experiment. Fucking absurd that in the next region a lazy book nerd was the first one to get a more muscular tall male model.
/v/ sure is fast today
>>746107663I feel like Zibby (>>746109824) does not mess around either, even though they're graciously hidden.
>>746117727she's definitely a sleeper
>>746078238what mod?
>>746079113They spent all the good writers on world quests cause its a small constrainted area where they can tell a story and not try to sell a new character every 42 days for 7 years straight like the main story quest does.
>>746079113do not waste any more of your time hoping it will get better. all chinkyaps are like this, it must be genetic or something
Snezhnaya world quests are off to a strong start, in my opinion.>TFW you can't save her.
>>746122190>going back to her house and finding her sad that she feels left out of the changes in her home now that she cant live in there properly anymore
>>746122190if the HP stop the people that have done this to her, then in my mind the HP have done nothing wrong.
>>746122190We really just killed off a kid by leading her back to the town.
>>746122618her fate was sealed the moment the experiment started, she was always going to turn into a tree from then, there is nothing we could've done to stop it
>>746086968Not to mention you also misses out on many yearly limited time regionshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cclxu9T0tcQ&list=RDCclxu9T0tcQ&start_radio=1
>>746122618I also felt bad that we essentially crushed the efforts of victims like No-Nose Ove and Furiosa that tried so hard to have at least Nastya be the one to escape the project.
>>746079113From what I've seen people say, it seems that everyone takes the game as a daily chore but most people really don't like it, more or less pure sunk cost fallacy.Plus most streamers nd youtubers only keep doing mihoyo because the company bots the streams and videos.
>>746122190At least she had a lot of fun during her last day.
>>746122190so what was her? a leshy? is that how they're development works? begin as mostly human and just becomes a tree little by little?
>>746126359Most leshy you encounter are just a type of fae, indicated by their drops. But the leshy you encounter in Flamefeather Valley are humans who have trees implanted into them which slowly grow and transform them into hybrids. This also slowly erases their memories and personality. This is a result of Moreau/Koschei founding a cult in Flamefeather for this exact purpose, building to his ultimate goal of creating the "Perfect Tree", melding all the hybrid villagers into an unchanging, immortal hivemind.
>>746127848man, all the big scientists at hvergelmir had some retarded takes on eternal love
>>746114090Alain knew what he was doing.
>>746122190We could have had a race like this in the city but instead I have to watch furryniggers every day.
>>746130893I love how citlali was seething over the fact we spend some alone time with Sandrone. Imagine if she finds out we've seen her inner conflict play out
>>746122190Just finished all the quests, Phanes was right to nuke those fucks out of existance.
>>746122827She didn't turn into a tree, she turned into blue goo. They all did, her mom and dad, other villagers.
>>746078238https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVhOnmEmd9E
>>746132841feelsbadman
>>746122190There so many death themes in Snezhnaya even that random floating cabin quest.
>>746088545Zhongli invited you out for dinner but didn't bring money. It happens a lot.
>>746091358>>746104060this doesn't work in 99% of existing content and for the new quest you can notice it only when there would be animation playing, it is still a ridiculously slow pace
>>746133027If you want to feel really bad, go back to her house after the quest.
>>746133027Yep, all that blue stuff "mold, algae, or fungus"? We were walking on was her friends, and family.
>>746105158>I feel like they made Sandrone too much of a good personall rollable characters will ultimately be turned into goodies, bugmen would riot otherwise
>>746107783I mean the dragon bad ending was destroying Teyvat and killing everything. Can’t really continue the game from there.
>>746114090which mod is this? i am currently using her (lore accurate) chest model from v1 beta
>>746079953the 6 hour aranara quest is actually kino
>>746130893
>>746133046what a coincidence
>>746133467hear me out: what if, hypothetically speaking, someone would ejaculate on that blue stuff?asking for a friend
>>746135306no
so the traveler is teaming up with the fatui against ronova? will they become a harbinger?
>>746135654>he didn't identify himself as The Twelfthoh boy you're in for a surprise
>>746079113>>746084805
>>746135619Shaq's hands are fucking GIGANTIC
>>746133046Love is also a major one. Just about every major character in the world quests are motivated by love in one way or another.
>>746136126I can smell the pink coming...
>>746079167TRUVKE>>746080938Like clockwork, kys
>>746135961natlan was pure shit.i don't get inazuma hate, i think it has some of the best moments and having the fucking archon beat the shit out of MC was great.and in 6 years since release it remains the only time when a named non-npc character was openly hostile towards the MC (still whitewashed later because chinks have no souls)
>>746136069mf uses an ipad as a phone
>>746081172Based student of the liberal arts still dabbing on Japs even after they’ve had every chance to improve the genre
I THINK YUMEMIZKI MIZUKI SUCKS AND HAS A BAD NAME
>>746135961>didn't play yetwe have similar rankings and i liked it so you probably will tooit's very long though
>>746137351rude
Sandrone is the proof that if done right, a tsundere will be always a loveable tropeSaid that, you can find our goat Pulonia in Alain house after the Fontanalia quest, if you want to cope.
>>746136436Inazuma started extremely cool, but the civil war was closed too quickly and with the power of friendshipNatlan war arc, where all the country was covered by the abyss, and the music was all disperation, only to reach the reckoning, was kino.
>>746139109i was kinda surprised at that sudden addition of the new house, instead of the house at the bottom of that one ordo WQ
>>746139247that one never was Alain's house though, was it?it was whatever fake fantasy Mary-Ann came up with
>>746139390its been a long time since i did the quest, so i forget, i just remember being surprised by it never being used again, it's still one of my favorite locations to just relax at (i pulled for sandrone there)
>>746139497I think I fucked up because the tea party takes place at Alain's actual house lmaobut yeah, the one in the World Quests is such a nice spot, I think I have the music playing in my teapot as well
>>746139661Yeah, i love that spot. i was one of those people back in the day who would use klee to map break to get back there before it could easily be accessed in a later update.
>>746122190literally the definition of forced drama
Why the fuck is San-Z a monocle now?
>>746140015Come back to the train anytimeEspecially if you have... an idea.
>>746140015akshually he's a blonde twink?
>>746139235>with the power of friendshipnatlan was LITERALLY power of friendship. all of the named characters standing together and giving their power to MC and mavuika was beyond cringe. then again they did almost the same thing in nod krai. twice.
>>746080608And way less dialogue bloat about irrelevant things like gooning 20 minutes about food.
>>746109824I shouldn't fuck that horse girlbut
>>746141292fuck the horse
>>746139235Natlan's world quest was generally better but world quests are night and day, Inazuma has some of the best and most memorable ones while Natlan's wqs are the most unnecessarily overpadded dogshit the game ever had.
>>746141479*Natlan's archon quest
So, how many times has mihoyo already made the human instrumentality plot? Is anyone keeping count? I think we have like 5 or more instances of it just in genshin.
>>746141479>Inazuma has some of the best and most memorable onesI dunno, I only really liked Enkaor are we counting Chasm as well?
>>746141683The Fox girl's was pretty good
>>746141683>Sakura tree quest chain>Furnace quest>Seirai>Enka>Ghost island kinoAll better than follow the generic dinosaur with a red bow and chug toddler puzzles the quest.
>>746141943none of those were particularly exciting thoughsure we got one or two islands to explore but most of the quests were "do this thing three times"especially the Furnace quest, fuck waiting days between each step
>>746141618you vill do a 15h world quest about le extinct fallen civilization #21 and you vill like it
>>746141618>THE LOOM OF FATE>That fag in Sumeru who learns the hard way that COMMUNISM DOES NOT WORK>Seriously, FUCK Jacob>The Captain>Tree goo>Probably something else I'm forgettingI get that they're supposed to be a parallels to how the leylines work, but consider that dead horse fully beaten.
>>746141618let's see...>alhaitams story quest>eternal slumber>narzissenkreuz order (rene's cringe ass thesis edition)>remuria>Flame feather valley
>>746142071>fuck waiting days between each stepmeanwhile nod krai has you waiting a week
>>746078238Thanks for fixing her model. Now fix a serious bug, it has this thing called a gacha... And a live-service model.
>>746087691>That's the whole game>>746081240When Fire Emblem Heroes turned to guns, it was called desperation.
>>746142071I still can't believe that guy went on to be super important in multiple flagship events.
>>746142168eh i wouldn't count the Columbina stuff but yeah, that was pretty fucked upespecially once she disappeared and screwed over my progress lmao
>>746091220>Like Ject in the desert>literally woman moment: the characterkek
>>746142112>THE LOOM OF FATEthe loom of fate isn't instumentality it's your siblings attempt into brining the worst nation back because they feel guilty about abandoning ship during the cataclysm to see (you) sleeping in the hibernation pod
i only pay attention to archon quests and it's the only story i follow.i don't give a fuck about secondary world quests with some muh deep lore hidden between 50h of dialogue nor character quests made to shill the newest banner by giving them a sad backstory or following them on an epic journey to help someone or resolve their internal conflicts>t. close to 2000h of playtime
>>746079113Just relax and try to enjoy the world of characters that you've come to enjoy. If you don't enjoy it then go do something else.
>tfw my dualsense is drifting ever so slightly and made me use up fox girl's mask
>>746141618Narzissenkreuz Ordo: InstrumentalityDragon Phlogiston: InstrumentalityTsar Quest Alchemist part: InstrumentalityTsar Quest Proto human part: InstrumentalityI say four times, but could be more, but I'm taking only the full instrumentality ones, not the just conceptually ones. Funny enough in this last quest we had two different instrumentalities. The point is that those people fear to be NAILED.COM or shit bricks against the abyss.
>>746142401>It will take 4 weeks to complete the entire "Beyond Silver and Fine Gold" quest.nicole world quest is also weekly
>>746142112>>746142114There's also dragons turning everything into phlogiston soup, Deshret's Aaru and most recent sending everyone into the shadow realm. In HSR we have Enna's Order and Happiness Society, in HI3 we had a Spritual Adam. I have a suspicion that once you get employed by mihoyo you are locked in the basement and forced to watch Evangelion on a loop for a week straight.
>>746142504>tfw sexbox controller right stick drifts and can't beat the shooter mode on hard
genshin writing and worldbuilding is just not good enough to warrant 200 books worth of dialogue
>>746142540I don't count what Remuria did as instrumentality, it was more similar to the Necron biotransfer, but the thing King Deshret was building and that now is used to be a substitute for Irminsul, probably was another instrumentality plan.
>>746141448There were two reasons why Zhongli wanted to resurrect her.Guizhong revengeance when.Zhongli finally solved the 5 star puzzle box catalyst Guizhong gave him thousands of years ago and it had the "resurrect me" button.
>>746141618Almost all the plots and character tropes are from anime or JRPGs. I donb't fault them for this because most of the plots and characters they're copying were also copies or inspired by something before. And there is the occasional good plot twist or subversion of the expected plot in Genshin. The problem is the 90% filler that leads up to those few good plot points. And if they're going to have hundreds of hours of filler, have it be character story arcs and side stories. They finally started doing this in Natlan. But that whole stretch from Inazuma to Fontaine is still painful to get through. And probably deters a lot of new players.
>>746106747He may be a turbo-nerd genius, but at the same time, he's still French.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peepoodo_%26_the_Super_Fuck_Friends
>>746142586>invites you weekly into her house to just have an orgasmthe fuck is wrong with her
When is Alice's banner?
>>746143286Probably right before we go to fight Celestia.
>>746142540>>746142769The moon thing (project moongazer) was also some sort of unwanted Instrumentality that was useful to start the cycle of outerspace signals
>>746095097LOL
>>746143286in genshin 2 nodus fall
>>746143673I swear to God, if there is some sort of connection between games...
>>746143286Golden Apple 3 next summer trust the plan.
What does /v/ think of Vodyanitsa?
>>746144863she cute, would take a naizuri from.
>>746101507You good, bro?
>>746106263>>746106571She didn't die, she faked her death.
>>746144863the jap squeaker doesn't her opera voice
>>746140960>then again they did almost the same thing in nod krai.It was better in Nod Krai since everyone had something unique but pivotal to bring to the table. Varka had his deal with the witches, 'Chino had her blood moon, Nefer had her magic glownigger box, etc. Natlan was just a generic "okay everyone hold hands to beat the bad guys away!!!" moment with zero friction.
>>746145450Yeah it's kinda funny.she sounds like a brat in JP
>>746144863nah
>>746144863easy skip everyone until Tsaritsa
>>746131927>Wait, you've seen someone else's inner thoughts?>But that's OUR thing!
>>746147064same here, pretty muchI also want Danica but those two are probably gonna back to back
>>746101507basedpost results
>>746145875I mean, Chasca literally had to watch her sister die just moments before.
>>746147415got my ass beat, i won't post that shit
>>746147427kind of a kick in the dick considering they turned off death completely like ten minutes laterI kek'd when they pulled something similar with Nefer>oh look, something that would have trivialized all my lifelong suffering
>>746147374>those two are probably gonna back to backTry at the same time, they already did that with Mav/Citlali and Columbina with Ineffa's rerun knowing how many people regretted not rolling her the first time.
>>746147504Yea I can see that wouldn't be possible, but you can probably do chimera with Cryo MC and your free Alyosha if you rush off to Schnez. The other 2 chambers aren't going to happen if you're genuinely still on 1.0 teams
>>746100756Same, I was only interested in Capitano, Columbina and Pierro at first but the rest of the gang has grown on me. Yes, even the banker.
>>746147374I probably won't have much left after tsaritsa and her weapon anyway lol
>>746078238holy booba
i still didn't start snezhnaya
>>746147623Joke's on them. That made the weapon banner nonshit for once.
>>746144863who
>>746135654brother, it's been confirmed from the start
>>746149903singer gogomi
>>746141618I don't understand how anyone remembers any of the quests in this game. They all come and go with no consequences.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6p-vtOnWrIA
>>746149724>He missed the Kathryn-worshipping cult event
>Enter Natlan>Immediately pick up a loli>Go to her village>Village Chief: "Um, yeah, I'm gonna need to know exactly who you are and see some form of ID. Now."That afro dude is probably the most responsible person I've encountered in all of genshin.
>>746150254>The event didn't have you building 8 statues to represent all the regional Kathryns you've met so far
>>746143037sex with cat doctor
>>746150468>probably the most responsible person I've encountered in all of genshin.Chef Mao deserves more credit
rankova zorya has a nice tunehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8joQTKbJ-Lo
>>746150254idc about her i skip what she says
>>746150468Natlan, the "land of war, dancing and graffiti" was actually full of the most responsible people. A bunch of the playable characters are basically running their tribes and patrolling the wilds to protect travelers. Even their archon is probably the most chill and responsible of the seven.
>>746153478Are those big boobed characters made from modifications or are they directly in the game already?
>>746135961>dropped the game in sumeru because story was too bloated (although it did have good parts)>it's only gone downhill from therele sigh...
>>746153774The world may never know.
>>746154096mualani boobies are nice
>>746153802No, the story got slightly better in Fontaine and then massively better in Natlan and Nod Krai. It's still way too bloated. But less than Sumeru. And they began focusing more on characters and world events.That guys chart is cherry picking just the main archon quest. Which isn't even like 5% of each region.
I hope 7.1 picks up the pace a bit, the theatre part was too big of a side track.
>>746079113Japanese people are completely unable to tell stories.We've discussed this countless times in our E33 threads. Keep up.
>>746156107I don't know what's stupider. That you're a fanboy of a series imitating Japanese writing, that you think there's no good Japanese story or that you think Genshin is Japanese.
>>746155956i liked it. didnt feel too long
>>746155956I doubt we'll face off against ronova with tsaritsa until tsaritsa is released in 7.4 or whatever. I bet it'll be slow build up until then
>>746150235Man this girl's nudes were disappointing as fuck. Almost Pizzacake tier.
>>746147821Banker is probably my 3rd favourite but without using a stand/"employees" I can't imagine having him be playable being remotely satisfying.
>>746144863Le fishe au briqué
>>746136434>le sigh I wish somebody knew what the answer to 2+2 was...>it's 4>heh, like clockwork, always the same with this '4' you speak of
>>746079113No. Nothing. Idiots are the only group of people who enjoy genshin writing. Most people are playing genshin for its exploration and gambling. Story? Lore? Theory? Those are reserved for the fridge temp iq who can easily get entertained by wikipedia surface-tier 'philosophy' and some random pop science shit
>>746079113You're basically rightt. played multiple gacha including genshin since launch>>746079845>miHoYo has literally zero incentive to keep you playing as long as possible.my guy this is DELUSIONAL1) they need to constantly churn out a neverending stream of content to keep people playing their game forever; the most economical way to do this is story content. This is why every single gacha I know of has lots and lots of story. Hours of story every patch keeps players from complaining about no content and dropping the game.2) the story is an advertisement for the character-products they want you to buyThe economic incentives for sizeable amounts of story in gacha are obvious and inarguable.
>>746159643>my guy this is DELUSIONALYou're wrong.>they need to constantly churn out a neverending stream of content to keep people playing their game forever; the most economical way to do this is story content.Incorrect. The most economical way to do it is drip-feeding the gacha currency through dailies.>the story is an advertisement for the character-products they want you to buyMost people pull based on designs. If your claim about the story being an important factor was true then you'd see more of a curve on banner sales but that's never what happens; it's always a massive surge on day one then a gradual dropoff.>The economic incentives for sizeable amounts of story in gacha are obvious and inarguable.The story isn't what keeps most people coming back. It's the daily dripfeed and the growing investment making it harder to want to quit due to sunk cost fallacy. The story is important, yes, but the way an MMO retains players is not the same way a gacha retains players.
check out the gacha phd over here lol. cringe
>>746078238https://files.catbox.moe/eypvhc.mp4
>>746104385I levelled her to 90 but haven't used her yet. Dunno what she even wants for artifacts and weapons.
>>746161395>Incorrect. The most economical way to do it is drip-feeding the gacha currency through dailies....which they all do. You think they're satisfied at that, or that they want the extra engagement of real content and the free advertising that comes from the fandoms that develop around characters with developed personalities? Story isn't the single most powerful force that gets people to log in and spend, I can certainly agree with that, but you're acting as though it has no relevance whatsoever to a gacha's success, which strikes me as super disingenuous. >If your claim about the story being an important factor was true then you'd see more of a curve on banner sales but that's never what happens>The story isn't what keeps most people coming back.You are ignoring the inverse proposition: what actually happens to a gacha game with no story? Players of every major gacha I'm aware of go in with the expectation of a story, where they generally know the character they're rolling will be developed and feature in the narrative. There's an unspoken but understood contract between players and developers that there's going to be shit to actually DO in the game here and there besides logging in for skinner box rewards. Feel free to name a counterexample! Which notable gacha has no or minimal story content? Because it won't be hard to name an order of magnitude more games, making an order of magnitude more money, that take the opposite approach.
>>746162613>>746104385I have her at c6r1 and she didn't wow me, but then I c2r1 most limited girls so I might have a high bar for DPS.
>>746162850>you're acting as though it has no relevance whatsoever to a gacha's successI never said that. All I said is it's not nearly as important as other factors. Gachas are not worlds most people live in. Many MMOs are. The average gacha player spends a relatively small amount of time logged in playing each day whereas the average MMO player treats their game like an extension of their social life. An MMO world needs to be something that gets people hooked. A gacha just needs to have appealing characters to throw in the slot machine.>You are ignoring the inverse proposition: what actually happens to a gacha game with no story?A story is just a mandatory formality. It's the vehicle by which the gacha is delivered. It's not what drives the game though. That would be the gambling and the daily chores to enable gambling.Go back and look at what I actually said instead of relying on your straw man. The initial claim was that Genshin's story is full of bloat for the purpose of keeping people playing. That's an absurd claim because even casual players get through the story in a matter of days. The story is not the driving force in player retention. It really does not matter that much beyond delivering characters. The thing that keeps most people hooked on gacha games is the fact that they're designed around encouraging consistent play for drip-fed currency to get characters that look appealing.
>>746164402>I never said that. All I said is it's not nearly as important as other factors.That's not actually a rebuttal of the core idea that gacha devs are economically incentivized to have comparatively long stories. Which all of them do, to my knowledge (and apparently to your knowledge, since you couldn't think of any counterexamples either).>It's not what drives the game though.It actually is a fairly important factor in driving the kinds of long-term engagement that get people *invested* in a game and its characters beyond merely being a waifu login slot machine, and creates communities around games and fan works that give said games huge amounts of free advertising. Again, it doesn't have to be the single biggest factor to be a relevant factor in what keeps people playing and spending.>Go back and look at what I actually said instead of relying on your straw man."miHoYo has literally zero incentive to keep you playing as long as possible.">The initial claim was that Genshin's story is full of bloat for the purpose of keeping people playing.So there are absolutely strong monetary incentives for gacha developers, in general, to put lots of story in their games. I think we've established that well enough.Now, the question of whether genshin's story in particular is bloated beyond the stories of its peers, and whether that makes the game more money or hurts it, is one I'm not too sure about.
>>746079113Play Endfield instead!
>>746079113>all these replies TikTok and YT Shorts really fried people's brains
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>>746165650It's him...the legendary Tupac. Hiding out in Genshin now.
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>>746087691retard
>>746164998>That's not actually a rebuttal of the core idea that gacha devs are economically incentivized to have comparatively long stories.They're not though. There is no incentive to make a long story. Any story that exists is just a mandatory formality. They wouldn't have skip buttons if the story was a core part of the business model.>then why doesn't Genshin have a storyCultural export.>It actually is a fairly important factor in driving the kinds of long-term engagementCompletely false. Long-term engagement comes from daily currency and sunk cost fallacy.>"miHoYo has literally zero incentive to keep you playing as long as possible."Correct and you have not disproven that statement. I could name dozens of MMOs where the player can invest 5+ hours every day for progression. How many gachas can you name that even allow meaningful progression beyond the daily stamina dump which tends to take a few minutes?>So there are absolutely strong monetary incentives for gacha developers, in general, to put lots of story in their games.Story? Sure. Lots of story? No because that's not the primary form of engagement. It's the vehicle for delivering characters.
>>746165942>They're not though.I'll just recap why they're economically incentivized to add large amounts of story content:1) Creating emotional investment and connection to the world and its characters, which is a fundamentally different kind of attachment than basic slot machine psychology2) Players spend more time playing, which boosts engagement metrics, which companies love3) Players who give a fuck about the story are less likely to drop the game since they want to see what happens - I've seen more than a few people saying they were playing genshin through snezhnaya for closure which is also why hoyo won't actually allow the story to have any real closure4) Story and character development creates more potential for communities, discussions, and fan works, which are all free engagement/advertising.5) Stories give lots of spotlight to the character being sold. >Any story that exists is just a mandatory formality. They wouldn't have skip buttons if the story was a core part of the business model.You're burying the lede by writing it off as a "mandatory formality". That "formality" is a practice that makes them more money, and that's why they all do it. The skip option is part of the balancing act gachas are ALWAYS doing between how much of the players' time they can monopolize before the playerbase is turned off and the game's reputation takes too big a hit. >Story? Sure. Lots of story?Relative to nearly every other genre of game? Yes, actually. Hence why every gacha developer you or I know of includes lots of story in their games.Seriously, if they're not economically incentivized to do it, why are they ALL doing it?
>>746104385>StandardSpeaking of which no selector this year or does it come later?
>>746169459Anniversary is in September.
>>746169501>After Odette's banner is overnigger I need them primos now not when reruns.
I think Sandrone is boring
>>746169687>not saving them for the archon
>>746169943>Not gamblermaxxing in the last regionngmi
>>746079167>No. There isn't a single gacha game with an interesting story.they have interesting characters instead. you're chasing the wrong horse.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PjAPY3TeiY
>>746170098I read that as Yae Miko
>>746169875I find her interactions with Bina to be really repetitive, but so far she's been better in Snezh.
>>746079113if you dont like it then you dont like it bro
>>746111540I'm upset they replaced succ's eng VA, the new one's way worse
>>746172286She shouldn't have been a dumb cultist whore.
didn't know sandrone's seiyuu did ASMR https://files.catbox.moe/4zyc9e.mp3
>>746173205Chat, is this real?
>>746173387https://vndb.org/c159763
>>746173205>>746173449no way
>>746172418what, was she doing some Allison mack shit
>>746173769She's part of the SAG-AFTRA cult and was openly bragging about how much of a whore she is and how blown out her pussy is. Every SAG-AFTRA VA who acted like a fucking retard got replaced.
>>746173205That's completely normal Japanese VA behavior. It's basically expected for women who do any sort of voice work(VAs, vtubers, youtube ASMR, streamers, etc) to also put out these masturbation material recordings. It's just part of the industry over there.
>>746173894that's not a cult that's just you being an idiotI miss when words used to have meaning
>>746174213>retardNo it basically runs like a cult. Shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about.
>>746174109why do we respect japanese voice actors more than union members like SAG-AFTRA then
>>746176473because they do their fucking job
>>746176473They don't use the characters they voice to promote their political takes online.
Genshin became dogshit tranny bait when they stopped making cute femboys/shotas. You all know it, troonslop enjoyers.
>>746079113there are 2 things going on: what is happening, ie, the story; and what people are saying, ie, the screenplay. you only need one of those to be good for the game to be of any entertainment value to you. if you're not having fun, then it just isn't meeting your personal taste and nothing can be done about it
ugh a successful gachashit thread
What's with these anti-gacha schizos?
>>746178021Why didn't they save Eula?
>>746178442I don't think they realistically could. Eula can't realistically be fixed easily due to her design.
>>746178665just buff physical and give it insane multiplier just like how they're doing for all new reactions? her burst could do 1.5mil damage and she would still be low-tier in terms of DPS and only usable for bosses.
>>746177703but dahlia released last year
>>746178752Just cranking up multipliers isn't going to do much. If Eula did just as much DPS as Skirk she would still be a significantly worse character. The reason why Skirk is so valuable is because her team comps have been able to brute force literally every single SO cycle due to elemental composition and options within those elements being good for handling various boss mechanics. Physical does fucking nothing in that regard. The only thing physical interacts with is cryo shields.
>>746178665make her burst do some damage at entry and allow players to detonate the nuke when they want
How do I make Odette idle dance like they showed in the livestream?
>>746179401you just waitif it isn't her salad one, she'll start spinning and you can spam her skill to prolong it
>>746179451>spam her skill to prolong itwhat, you can do that?
>>746079113>there are niggers legitimately defending Hoyoslop writing and word saladWhat a time to be alive.
>>746178665>Eula can't realistically be fixed easily due to her designMake her skill and burst do stellar conduct damage that scale absurdly high for a character as old as her.Regen energy every time her NA hits.Done. Yohomo can pay me by buffing Dehya.
>>746179994The icon will actually pulse a bit when she's dancing, it wont cause her to blow something up if you hit it.
>>746180153they just have more patience than youthe writing is fine if you don't mind some prose detour
>>746180162what are some other characters that should be on the next batch of buffs? I guess chicken little, since he deals phys as well
>>746180519No, my lowercase brownoid. This isn't about patience. The writing is OBJECTIVELY dogshit. Having characters constantly repeating points that were already previously hammered on your head, constant talks about food raping the pacing on top of a shit plot that can't be skipped is not only bad but also offensive.
>>746180716you clearly haven't played the game past liyue
Zoom zoom!
>>746180716>food rapingsaar please dont raping the food saar
why is it always browns that try to insult others by calling them brown?
>>746144863Fantastic character and personality
>>746181838I dunno, she seemed too on the nose.She's certainly no Jahoda.
>>746181064But enough about the guy who goes through a list of Indian names.
>>746180768I played until Natlan and it still had those problems.>>746180850>nigger with 0 reading comprehension Yep, sounds just like the average Genshin reader.
>>746144863I'm seriously considering pulling her even if that wasn't he original plan. Her personality grew on me in the AQ
nuh uh, saving for Tsaritsa and maid
>>746180768>you clearly haven't played the game past liyueIt was still somewhat like that until Natlan tbf>>746178665They modified some of the talent mechanics for Wrio and cyno and Yae with their fixes, I can't imagine not making it so that Eula's burst isn't a timed nuke while scaling with stellar is an impossible ask
>>746144863Only good playable character out of the 7.0 cast AQ cast.Design is whatever, her personality is more fun than a lot of characters
I need deathchan
>>746183735>youtube spoilers being relentless as alwaysI just hope she won't be another Rerir
>>746183140The problem is with every character that has been changed they didn't actually alter the functionality of their kits. They just added stuff without actually changing existing functionality to any major degree.Adding a more convenient way to detonate her burst early wouldn't actually help much because you can already do that.>yeah but you have to swap her outIf you're swapping her out it's either because you know you don't need the full power of her burst to kill or because some kind of invuln phase/aerial mechanic/etc is happening. There are very few scenarios where her continued presence on the field would actually matter. Her rotation is done. The kit interaction is done. They would actually need to change her entire kit to fix Eula because her design is inherently at odds with the design of the game. Backloaded damage is not desirable in Genshin and her entire kit is designed around backloaded damage.
>>746180716you're exaggerating for the sake of arguing but that's 99% of discussion on this board i guess
>>746183927They can just make her a Cryo character with buffs and change both her NA and Burst to Cryo DMG
>>746183870I know about it, Ronova did nothing wrong fuck khanriahns and fuck hoyo for shilling them
already>100% all snez region>Cleared all the AQ/WD/SQ/hidden questWHERE IS MY FUCKING CONTENT?No, I will not clear nod.
>>746182487She's more of a mischievous Fae than Jahoda's girl in way out of her league.
>>746185132I still have to do a bunch of SQ, last one I did was dehyanod krai is great, you fagit
Tsaritsa is Koitar. Khaenrians are filthy nephliniggers
>>746186494Nod map is shit, its basically what happen if you create enkonomiya and resize it 100 times.
>>746186616doesn't really explain the "godless nation" part if their ancestor is celestialthen again, we don't really know what gods are, do we?
>>746079953love jehtlove ranalove zhiqionglove my lil niggalove eggie
>>746184031He's exaggerating but he's not exactly wrong. For years the main story has been plagued by terrible pacing issues. There some good are parts where the story is genuinely interesting, but you have to suffer through a lot of terrible filler dialogue to get there, and by the time you get there you're exhausted and just want the story to be over.
>>746079113As someone who has defended genshin's writing and some storylines in the past, I'll stick to my original opinion because from what I've seen all those years, nothing has changed. Genshin's story and writing is good as an exception, not as the rule, just like how a broken clock tells the right time twice per day. It's pointlessly dragged out to the point 2/8 acts of an archon quest can take 6 hours. 6 fucking hours. I can watch 2 of the 3 LotR Extended movies, which are condensed versions of the books, and these 2 movies will have a thousand times more details than anything Genshin may offer. On the contrary, these 6 hours of of the archon quests will have many plot points explained again and again and again because most people have it running in alt-tab, or autoplay on their phones while they do something else, in with NPCs doing the bare minimum above T-posing and rotating with tank controls before walking, all that to tell a story that can be summed up in a 20 minute cinematic. As much as I love exploring and playing the game, the main questline and their irredeemable blabbering for hours and hours on end with nothing of value to say, have turned me sour and honestly, stopped giving a fuck after Natlan, whatever happened there.
Will Anastasya really be our first non-virgin playable character?Logically she should be, but I still have my doubts.
>>746190807anon she's like 6000 years oldshe obviously had sex in that period and also that should be the least of your worries
muh FUARKING archon
>>746192249the white tsar deadass named the country after her
>>746192662is that a fact? or did it work the other way around, where she adopted the name?
going through snezhnograd while slavic music plays snaps my mind to childhood when i was visiting my grandparents during winter holidays
>>746193638now I'm just hungry for dumplings
>>746193950for me it's anything pork related
>>746194134>the official cookbook ends on Sumerufuuuuuuck
>>746194385The fuck is her problem
>>746194565autismfemboy brothersuperiors hate her guts
>>746194565being raped will do that to you
oh yeah that happened too
>>746194565Getting increasingly hard to pass off as Lyney's body-double
>>746195676a cat is fine too...
>>746195676fake boobs exist you know
what the fuck do they feed them in the House of the Hearth?
>>746192662Her real name is Lucifer
>>746183735I swear, that fucking title card looked like a fan mockup the first time I saw it.
>>746197112there is a chance the tsaritsa is special and she doesn't have a demon name like the other archons
>>746194565she's annoyed a new autist stole the spotlight
>>746197112isn't that arguably the player / the twins?
>>746198037Lucifer is the leader of the angels who lead a rebellion against god.
>>746197492>Eula but flatNaruhodo.
>>746198424retarded question, is lucifer even in the ars goetia?
new anecdotes doko?
>>746196691arle's breast milk
>>746199808gives you amnesia
>>746199808
>>746200250gachawomen owe me nursing hjs.
