Ragna... Had a hard life...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Zr9s10AYohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMFvZ2TUWaAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMhb8g6wmqIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAv22ztU8iohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rak-A5ul-6U
Gamescom ONL in 6 hours bois. What are we expecting fighting games related?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzvzt3IjNikhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwC9EFT6EFk
>>746087517Probably just VF6 and Avatar Tagah. Rest are in TGS though I think DOA7 has a pretty good chance to show up today.
How do I set up a defence training bot in training mode for BBCF?I get caught by overheads and throws too many times for it to be reasonable.I'm already trying to make one in DBFZ based on some guides I saw
>Duck King actually interacts with the Rev meter in a unique way instead of it just being a glorified drive bar and nothing elsetook them long enough, couldnt have happened to a more appropriate character too
>>746087517VF Crossroads new trailer
>>746087431Zamn Ragna's ass looks like THAT?
puke
KILL PATTHEFLIP
https://www.youtube.com/live/KqaQkpYPAwc?si=WWMmlixmVuetxJ2nhttps://www.youtube.com/live/68Bn8egdw78?si=7diU2XYdx26-rYts
>>746088749more like pat the flop
>>746087431at least take your shoes off first, hoe.
>>746087464>the coolest track isn't in the jukebox because of some gay ass licensing issueshttps://youtu.be/e1c9IECi3eE?si=SGgryf1RftbfJ_Fn
>>746087903Just chicken block and block with 1abc so it beat throws lol
>>746088749FGC's no.1 public enemy
>>746087517Arjun
>>746088749I never liked that guy.
>>746087431
>>746091392CULO
>>746091392Ragna's dumptruck ass...
>>746088749Him and both these guys are never gonna show up in public ever will they?
RIGHT THERE
>>746092327They should've stayed quiet especially Pat with the fucking article.
>>746092407Fireball war does not compute
>>746092407they should make it so if a move doesn't hit, people can like punish the move or something
>>746092327Pat seems like he has a big enough head on him he'll keep a public profile.
why are we complaining about pattheflip?
>>746092327Didn't they create rollback netcode? They get a pass from me
>>746092916He made a post about his time working on 2XKO that reflected poorly on him.
>>746092916He performed the grift of the decade, which is pretty based ngl
>>746087431>do the monkey with me
>>746087431that motherfucker is smilinghe is faking itas any man would
>>746087431KWAB
I'm not really sure why people are as violently angry at Pattheflip as they are.I kind of get it from the perspective of "the people working on the game needed a boring safe game to stay employed" but I'd like to hope at least that after ten years of development with the team that Pat has a reason to not be freaking out about that? What I'm really like "what?" over is people genuinely taking riot's side in the sense of "Oh Pat fleeced them and made whatever he wanted, what a bastard, he had obligations to them"who give a fuck about that? It's Riot. Their MO as a company is steal the ideas of better companies and dumb them down for mass-appeal and hopefully beat them to the punch. They've long been known to have terrible company culture. You tell me that someone wasted Riot's time and money trying to make an actual passion project and I say fucking great.
>>746094056If such a derivative game is the end product of 10 years of passion, I'd be questioning him too.2XKO seems like your bog-standard tag fighter that hilariously is still lacking the sauce that they insist was important to add.
>>746094285>Unlockable boss character is crapTruly worst trope
>>746094285Ranking Danger that low feels like a very superficial takeI don't see people ranking Goblin low when his neutral is kinda weird
>>746088749this guy quit his well-paying job to play pat's game and even he couldn't help but publicly shit on pat's manifesto
>>746088749Goofy witch hunt
>>746094681Goblin already has measurable results even if it's just from tagging him in, people generally have not found Danger rewarding on point or from tagging her in once someone else gets in. Regardless of whether she's good or not, she's not comparably to Green Goblin in why people view him as good.
>>746088749who's that guy? people keep talking about him
raped
>>746095217tranny
>>746095650One of the devs of 2XKO gets so much discourse more than the game itself because of his Patreon post.
>>746095825>2XKOnevermind
>>746094056I dont care about your gay grudge against Riot.This is about responsibility, professionalism and respect for both the genre and its fans.Pat and his clique of tranny goons didnt just waste Riots time, they wasted everybodies time. Literally a decade of hype and promises. It was supposed to be the biggest thing for the medium.It will lead to drastic consequences too. The game was seen as such a threat that all the japanese got together to discuss the future of fighting games as F2P.Future investments into the genre will probably suffer from it too, and so will the idea of hiring players. All that because some nepo faggots got in and exploited their privileged position to the absolute limit. This attitude also endangers the livelihoods of the developers who actually tried to do their job. This didnt even look like a passion project. Shit was fucking unfinished after a decade more barren than indie fighters. Pat spent the whole article shitting on modern fighters but what exactly did he deliver? A shitty baby input active tag turd with neutered movement. Its the definition of a modern fighter.Its one of the biggest wasted opportunities ever.Riot had every right in the world to delete them. Their biggest fault was letting them do as they please in the first place.This whole western industry wide experiment of just letting devs do what they want is clearly a terrible mistake as no games are coming out, and the ones that do come out are dogshit.Pat is just a disgusting person all around. Delusional leftoid manchild narcissist incapable of self reflection.
>>746095291I'm not saying Danger is as good as Goblin, but people are missing out on her strengths and she's easily B tier and certainly not as bad as Ms MarvelMeanwhile Goblin has some issues, but it's not being factored into his placement.
every ranked tokon game goes down to like a single hit with both of us at 2 rounds each, its crazy how often this happens to mme
>>746096262I mean I can't really relate because "league of legends fighting game" sounded like a bad joke from the start- League players don't branch out a ton and they're known for playing the casual version of a better game. It seemed like a bad idea from the word go. But you're seguing into "you can't trust developers with control" and "muh leftoids" so I don't think there's any worth talking about it with you. Someone like you doesn't genuinely care about developers or games. It's that simple.
>>746096491Yeah fuck off retard
>>746096395I'm not talking about how good they both are respectively, I'm just saying they're not comparable in how they're used regardless of their strengths. Goblin does have some issues but they're easy to overlook because he's really good at what he's good at, and it's also pretty easy to just use him for what he's good at. Danger isn't like that, so what issues she has have much more impact on her overall strength than Goblin's do with him.
>>746096543Likewise.
It is in fact not always the corporations fault.
why do we call them overheads and not highs?
>>746096631Because highs doesn't hit a crouching opponent.
>>746096581Fair, just ignore the part about Goblin then. I just think tiering her as bottom 2 is stupid.She's got decent neutral, she has a simple oki setup that covers every roll and makes you plus, Medium Drill is an insane tag-out move, and when you tag her in you get decent mix because of the hoverdash letting you do hoverdash>air backdash for delayed overheads.It's just if you fuck up your hoverdash, you will get 2H'd and then you die. So it's very easy to use her wrong.
>>746096614Maybe this would hold more weight if the corporation didn't always dodge responsibility no matter what their part in things was. Do you think anyone at Sony is getting fired for imposing the DRM upon them that killed the game's launch?
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/marvel-tokon-devs-admit-it-will-be-extremely-challenging-to-regain-player-trust-after-troubled-pc-launch/>“I do feel that it will not be an easy task at all to regain the trust that we’ve lost from this. However, this is an issue that we’re facing head-on, and we’re trying to tackle it directly to try to continue working with all that we have and to provide an environment where players will be able to smoothly experience the game.>“I feel that that is the most that we can do. So the team will continue to work together as one to try to provide a game that the players can enjoy even more than the initial version of the game. And all we can do is do our best and pray that that sentiment will reach the player base.”
people wanted a competent fighting game that could push the genre and instead pat ran a tranny kindergarden where he larped as a professor.
>>746096943Just remove the DRMs.>BUT SONY!Remove the DRMs but keep the PSN.
>>746096262>This didnt even look like a passion project. Shit was fucking unfinished after a decade more barren than indie fighters.The whole defense about it being a "passion project" seems so fake to me.The game doesn't do unique voicelines or character to character interactions. It's silly but Strive just having different voicelines for when characters get hit by overheads adds so much charm and it's not even a difficult thing to do.
>>746096943arcsys sounds like an abused dog here wtf, they clearly know what the issue is but can't say it. how horrible is sony as a partner?
>>746096943All they need to do is remove the DRM raping everyone's CPUI can understand shoddy balance and jank, it's a new fighting game release and the game's still fun, but running this bad is unacceptable
>>746097141That's a different kind of passion project and desu Strive was a step down from Xrd in that way. We lost stuff like unique outro dialogue for every matchup in the transition although they've tried to play catchup a little.I don't really get the impression that the passion the 2XKO team had was for league, it was for fighting games. And they had big dreams of marrying the fast games they actually held a flame for with something that could maintain casual appeal. That's literally what every fan of a niche genre wants, widespread appeal without losing the essence of what it is. They just couldn't find it.
>>746097415Both Avatar and 2XKO are both games that are for the FGC made by the FGC. Both also try to find casual appeal but the difference is that Avatar still had the essence and it worked. And you could say one is 1v1 and the other is tag and also one took maybe 1 or 3 years to make while the other is 10 years.
>>746098363Avatar has under 500 players in game. It's going to be a discord fighter. It's fine, it's fun, but what it achieved was a modern release that hardcore FGC fans genuinely liked without reservations. I don't think the casuals care about it at all.
>>746096943They can't regain our trust if they won't remove the DRMs. I know they need to suck Snoy's dick in the meantime but it'll be better if they actually be honest about it.
>>746098778Isn't Ninjakilla played Tekken for a long time so he gets a pass?
>>746097141its clear that pat and his rag tag group of fag rags didnt give a shit about LoL at all, which is fine, but they also didnt give a shit about giving LoL fans anything.
>>746096943Sony sabotaged them, they're bitter about the PC market existing
>>746098778this just shows that the genre is beyond fucked.
>>746098778yowzers
I think if you want casuals to care about fighting games again you do need singleplayer/casual content and good art direction, but more than that you need either a successful marketing blitz at the right time or you need to pull a ROB.Like, trick people into playing a game that's more-or-less a fighting game by not presenting it as such. Something like For Honor except not literally a For Honor clone.
+r has 35 players on right now WOAH
>>746099624This
>>746090035>1abcI keep messing up that option select timing since I get throw reject miss'd
Can't you make a simple game that has the potential for degenerate mix ups combos without alienating both?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTQh8quHzKk
>>746100873BBTAG really didn't need to have its C button be its universal overhead or have jC be some sort of gimmick button when it could have easily been another air special input.Especially when the game also asks you to manage two characters at once or remember 3 different assists.
>>746100873You're a bit stupid aren't you?
>>746101265Yes but that's besides the point
we need to talk about fighting game button bloat
>>746099624for honor still has 3k+ players even 9 years later btw
>>746100873p4a
>>746101359Ok? Spit it out.
>>746101461fighting games, especially ones with "simple" controls use too many buttons now
>>746101461The buttons are too big and they need to make them smaller
how long does it take to learn playing on leverless
>>746096943Only way to fix this is remove Sony's shit inhouse DRM. If Sony refuses, they should sue them over damaging the ArcSys brand.
Reminder BBCF likely has an alternate ending where Terumi defeats Ragna and attains the azure.But i'm on the route where Jin has the azure
This thread is fucking dogshit.
>>746101461Alt modern controls has too much buttons
>>746100873Did you say potential?
>>746096943REMOVE THEIA AND EAC. REMOVE PSN IF POSSIBLE.
>>746102105yea this thread needs HYPE and MONEY MATCHES and GOOD OL AMERICAN THUGGERY HNNNNGH!
I don't care about greenslop or tagslop. I will just keep playing Granblue and fap to draphs
>>746102609I really wish they would add Vajra to either Granblue game.
>>746102609You are playing a game so slop it makes everything aside from Tekken 8 look less slop and less boring in comparison. The only other games I could say that about are dnf duel and sfv.
>>746102729Instructions unclear. Adding Payila as a zoner with her summer costumeSuccessfully landing a hit on her back will cause her to IK herself
>>746100873Strive did
>>746100873You may not like it but that is strive
>>746100873Strive
>>746101698depends on what you're playing on to begin withit took me less than two weeks to go from keyboard to leverless because they're basically the same
>>746100873Melty Blood was an entire series built around that very concept, but decade and a half later nu-french bread looked at AACC's BC BC air throw and thought "Wow, this is too hard for people" and dumbed down a game that was already designed for VN babies.
>>746102105Reminder that i'm LITERALLY Jin Kisaragi and noobody in this thread even has the mental capacity to take that away form me
strive is imo still the best marriage of casual and hardcore fighting games which probably pains a lot of people to hearmodern controls in sf6 are awkward and their presence is annoying if you play classicthe mechanical changes in 6 that make it less consistent make it kind of a miserable nightmare to play at a high enough levelstrive has some of that but the game feels much more stable in comparison
>felt like i was improving, was playing well yesterday>hop on ranked again today>lose like 10 sets in a row 0-2this genre can be really demoralizing. i'll just take a break for now
https://x.com/ThatMikeRossGuy/status/2092174142539976815 sf6 has no sau-ACK!
>>746104012Kimberly buff's getting out of hand
>>746103697Completely agreedHaving mostly universal routes, or safe autopilot strings that will combo but are kinda shit is a great way to get people on board without intruding on balance at intermediate/high level playSF6's choices have way more implications at every level
https://youtu.be/0gCq_xV5GJQHoly shit he makes this game look sick af
>>746104946Game solved pretty fast
>>746105027Typical Clayton W, he's always years ahead of what everyone else is doing.
Can someone get a janny to delete this thread
>>746104946Why the fuck do combos feel so damn slow?
>>746104946I wish the basic structure of air combo>spike>assist>launch was more shit because the combos you can do with EX moves or non-generic assists are really cool, but they're generally not as stable or don't do that much more damagehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0MaC1FKoMU
>>746087517Almost thereeee
The only tier list that matters.
just make a game like strive but not transit's not that hard
>>746098778Lmao getting cocky aren't ya
>>746087464Orchestral like battle themes are always kewl
>>746087517But what if there isn't fightans
sf6 killed the entire genre.
Isn't Gamescom more PC game focused?
>>746106816i mean strive filled a power vacuum caused by SFV and got a larger audience than normal due to covid so it wasn't as simple as "they made a good game"
>>746107562No? There's console exclusives too.
>>746103328I'm coming from pad and I'm trying out how it'd feel with a keyboard, feels like I'm missing an arm and a leg. I guess two days ago I can't even jump and now I'm doing combos but I still can't imagine how to move around in the air.
>>746107517Then it's hibernating till TGS
>>746106816Strive is what it is because it's trans. Modern fighting games are trans.If you want a manly game play arcade games. Good games.
>>746107917I don't want a manly game because I don't define my masculinity by what videotoys I play like sissies doI want a fun game
>>746108038> I don't define my masculinity by what videotoys boot up strive faggot.
>>746108114Wut Poison should be own tier after beast cock
>>746088749i just don't understand what made him think that manifesto was a good idea to write, is it literally just narcissism brain rot
>>746108320>reddit spacingYup yup found the sissy!
>>746108346Why? A tranny is a tranny, how is she different?
>>746108465Cuz Ingrid is over THERE
>>746096631overheads are not always high hitting moves, and high hitting moves are not always overheads
>>746108519??? I still dont get it. Poison bas a normal human penis. A big one, but still
>>746103239strive does not have degenerate mix
>>746108442Eat the slop zoomniggerlick the plate clean
>>746096943lmfao even arcsys knows they just need to remove the anti cheat and sony sdk, sony fucking sucks
>>746108830Says the reddit cuck tranny faggot playing with his tranny friends on discord with his discord tranny dead games. KEEEEEK
https://thunderpick.io/blog/exclusive-with-john-ricchioMore 2XKO drama
>>746109614This old
>>746098778>Chilean twins won SF6latam seems like dominating SF
DOA7 DOA7 DOA7 oh wait it isn't
>>746110291Because they are the only ones stupid enough to play that "game".
We need to make less fighting games. Like one every 1,5-2 years. No more small/medium fighting games, just the big boys: SF, Tekken, MK, KoF, Guilty Gear, "Smash". VF can make one last game, and same with DoA but only if Tekken/VF came out looong ago. All of them should follow the gaas formula because that's what you niggaz want. If one game suddenly dies they should end the season fast, wait two year and make an upgraded edition of the same game (i.e. Dark Resurrection, +R, Last Round).
how do u block +R ino
ooooh injustass 3 cmon
>>746112015We are already in the dark ages. Next big hit will be One Shot Fighters and then all the major games will add it for single player for their next releases around 2029/2030.
>>746111627but enough about tekken and pakis
>>746112319Mash backdash or something and hope you get lucky and make something whiff so you can throw or it at least fucks up her combo
>>746113292I've been doing that and I still get confirmed into a combo+ kd
>>746113643Then burst and don't lose neutral again
In blazblue, can you jump out of Tager grabs if you’re magnetized? Can’t they pull you out of the air? Do you need to stay grounded and then time it so jump startup overlaps with the grab? Like what do you do once you’re magnetized
Trying to learn gg strive but it's like studying a class it has too many system mechanics
>>746113941but its hard my pokes dont work and even if they do they dont convert into a combo and kd themselves
>>746114351>strivecmon man
>>746115291I kinda get it, strive feels really manufactured and not intuitive at all, compared to like plus r, even if plus r is the much deeper game
Just one second of new VF6 or SF6 Arjun pleaaasssee Geoff
>>746114879Then die
>>746107847>in the airAssuming your using the standard layout, try up with both thumbs until you figure which one you prefer. I used to play on pad and I vastly prefer using my right thumb for up and effectively treating it like a jump button like in other 2D games.
>>746116253Both probably waiting for TGS instead
>>746115291What's wrong with strive? It's the best looking game on the market and it's not a discord fighter
>>746101461The top limit for buttons on a fighting game should six, with everything else being a combination of those. GG does a really good job at this because stuff like FD and burst and RC is mostly flexible for the exact buttons, which gives you a lot of wiggle room for button layouts. Tokon I think is awkward, you have six main buttons but it feels like your gimping yourself if you don't use QS, even if you are used to the motion.
>>746116542It’s just bad compared to anything else. If you want something grounded you got Granblue and SF6. If you want airdashers you got blazblue, xrd, and Plus R. Strive is just really boring and random, and every redesign is bad.
>>746116542>>746116919Also strive has a lot of weird western political and gender stuff in it, and that affects the community around it too. Hard to say if that, the gameplay, or the redesigns are worse.
>>746116919>granblue>Sf6got bored of those so I wanted something new>bb, xrd, plus rdiscord games and too anime for my tastesStrive is a good middle ground for me. I like Guilty Gear Strive. I don't have social media so I don't interact with trannies like you do
UWAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>746098778>>746110291Why are chileans so good at fightan?
>>746118210I mean, strive has a discord too. Doesn’t mean you have to use it. I’ve got over 10,000 games in plus r and never used discord. If anything strive is more of a discord game because it revolves around trannies.
>>746118285Latams are the true prodigies
>>746114351Blue burst happens when you're in hit/blockstun. People can bait blue burst by dropping their combo, jump cancelling out of cS or 5K, or Roman Cancelling. A good rule to not get burst baited is to not burst on cS, not burst on counterhits and not burst on the first hit. Or burst during long moves if they don't have meterGold burst happens when you're actionable. It's safe on block and you can do it as a pseudo-reversal. It gives back Tension when successfulFD pushes people away when blocking, use it. It's extremely goodDeflect Shield blocks everything and pushes people away even if it's a projectile. Use it on Millia's Disc, or Potemkin's Garuda Impact if you don't want to hold their pressure.IB causes no pushback, IB+FD causes tons of pushback. You're free to attempt it against true blockstrings because of absolute guard.Backdash is full invuln for 4 to 6 frames, but a lot of meaties will recover fast enough to still be plus, or get a punish (which can be OS'd)Wakeup is throw invuln for 5 frames. Blockstun gives 5 frames of throw invuln. You can mash P normals on them.Red RC cancels from active frames, Purple RC cancels from startup/recovery frames, Blue RC cancels from "nothing" (including airdash). Also they slow you down if you're in range. Guard Crush removes absolute guard, so you have to hold back even if it's a true blockstrings. It also removes throw invulnerability, so you have to tech, backdash or jump.Allegedly Counter-Blitz is a real mechanic that exists in the game.Now that you've read most (all?) of Strive's system mechanics, feel free to press back throw on wakeup
>>746118585Counter Blitz should be called character specific because only Slayer and Lucy can use it as a combo ender.
https://youtu.be/71T3sAtNlk0The hero we need
>>746119187glory to clayton sama
>>746118285do they play anything other than fighters? might just be pakis 2.0
>>746118874They can but it's specific and not very good, unless you're in the extremely niche case where they would build burst after the rest of the combo (you can still burst the startup of it).I'd say it's more useful for Testament getting tip range fS counterhits that literally cannot convert into anything other than Arbiter Sign. It's still not a good mechanic at all.
Clayton-posting has increased the past couple weeks, is he just posting more here?
>strive is more of a discord game because it revolves around tranniesAbsolute strive derangement comedy.
yeah still not playing strive
Wonder if the guy who posts that image whenever people start remotely talking about strive in a nonnegative way realizes strive players don't give a fuck about bridget the same way +R and Xrd players don't.
>>746114002His grounded grabs only effect your movement on the x axis so they won't pull you downwards. He needs to use his 623C or his j.360C to bring you down towards him in the air.
>>746121456I think Strive Bridget is fun to play, but not worth the effort
Guys. I am having a hard time dealing with zoning in cotw.Niggas like gueese, kain and rock have those annoying double fireballs that are impossible to avoid. kain is the worse one because he also has those stupid bomb he can set up and his spg lets him move trough the stage real fast.just defend doesn't do anything because it kills all momentum and throws me backwards.I play Tizoc btw.
>>746123224my guy you play the grappler
>>746103557>MBTL is a dumbed down version of a dumbed down game and it's harder than everything that isn't Avatar out nowMaaaaaaaaan
>>746124674different from other grapplers that have at least one move to deal with that tizoc. other characters with grabs in this game also have projectiles or other ways to deal with that as well. I think his best option is Olympus Over or Active Typhoon on a read depending on distance but it didn't work so well, especially on Kain.
>>746125215I don't think MBTL is as difficult as UNI2.I still see people fuck up combos in the latter, while I used to see C-ranks basically do optimal combos that even S-ranks were using by like month 1.
>>746120451Tokon just came out and Clayton has the best videos for the game as usual. And second Clayton was once again right about Pat and 2XKO. Why wouldn't people be bringing him up again is the better question?
Sometimes I think the Clayton posting has to be an attempt to get people to hate this guy because of how fucking insane it is. Like who the hell actually talks like Clayton posters anywhere in real life. This shit is how a children's cartoon portrays a cult.
Why do people like or hate this Clayton guy?he just seems like a very autistic dude.
>>746122604You can say the same thing about Plus R Bridget lmao.
People only hate Clayton because he's good looking end of story.
>>746129541I dislike him purely because you trogs ride him so hard and despite all of this skill he's never produced tourney results.
>>746129438I think relative to each game, +R Bridget is better than Strive Bridget at this point
>>746129242I don't have any feelings on Clayton himself at all I just hate the anons posting him because they're fucking insane weirdos who think this is somehow normal behavior. They spam him for hours unprovoked and then the moment anyone bites or tells them to fuck off, they act like it's everyone else who's obsessed with some C-list e-celeb. It's a goddamn flow chart.Like man if people were spamming Diaphone or LordKnight or Max like this it'd be the same fucking shit. It's parasocial eceleb shit and it's somehow creepier than the faggots that post vtubers.
>>746087431https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJAGor6x7AA
>>746087517There was NOTHING. TGS it is.
shows over boyo
>>746129541How's the onlyfans going, Clayton? Still begging people to buy?
>Sonic Smackdown devs making an original IP fighter now>1v1 but actually its MvC gameplay with Bloody Roar transformations into completely different movesets so its spiritually tag since you're not forced to transform or revert except for combos/burst>like the girl's beast moveset but not her base formman
>>746088749I can't think of anyone more FGC than saying>I was brave enough to develop the SAUCY, CRACKED game that I wanted to, fuck the haters>Yeah, I haven't even played it since being laid off, lol
>>746132716Are they gonna plagiarize movesets again this time too or what?
>>746133807Who's knocking a game for plagiarizing movesets. We expect a shoto in every title.
>>746132716Why does every indie fighting game also chase combo porn design? I hoped this was just a mainstream game issue.
Heres how you fix fighting games:Faster/smoother movement, and shorter combos.
>>746135332They’ve been making movement worse in new games
>>746135384And those newer games do the opposite of what I say and they're worse off for it so it's not a coincidence.Remember DNF Duel?
>>746135201You're a bit stupid aren't you?
>>746135453Dnf duel failed because it's genuinely more boring, braindead and awful to play than anything released post 2020 while SF6, Tekken 8, and Strive are all games that did well while either not making the movement faster or while making the movement outright worse and slower than previous games.
>>746135956DNF failed because the company supporting it is fucking retarded, much like 2X.
>>746135956Not him but strive just ended up being bad for what it tried to be because it never came close to street fighter popularity while also never having the good gameplay that the main games have
>>746135956>SF6Came off the coatridings of SFV, and actually to the games credit the walk/backwalk speeds in general are faster than SFV by a noticeable amount, too bad about the rest of the games systems. Still not fast enough but an improvement is an improvement, unfortunately the game thanks to its success won't fucking change.>T8 The game got shredded for nerfing KBD, and every other form of movement except for sidestepping which got buffed (only for these assclowns to cancel out those buffs every time with a new homing attack every goddamn patch) most of its developers and names have left Bandai Namco since then.>StriveHad the rollback hype behind it because there was no other good options back then, and the games shit mobility actually nearly caused problems late in its lifecycle when they were trying to tard wrangle Happy Chaos and then tried to work with wild assault. The game had to be reworked in 2.0 which their solution was just to homogenize normals even more.
>>746132716>'player expression' in marketingwhat are some other fighting game red flags?
>>746136723If the mobility is shit and they emphasize combos too dramatically.
>>746136817>emphasize combosNot a single fighter has done this for marketing.
>>746136035It was both game being shit and Nexon but mostly the game just being shit.>>746136065What do you mean? it's only purpose was GG but simpler/people actually wanted to play while having some retarded shit you wouldn't see in Tekken, kof or SF and it achieved that goal when it outsold the entire series/reached bb levels of popularity while managing the keep the high playerbase it has after a half decade. Hitting SF levels was never the goal or desire for arcsys just better than the last games
>>746136880Look at all those indie games where their gameplay footage is just showing constant combos. Hell look at Invincible VShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3BVTpapEiE
What was the last combo you had fun learning anons? Trials, lab monster shit, game doesn't matter. I'm going through KOF13's mission mode and remembering how fun Karate's shit is.
>>746136570>the games shit mobility actually nearly caused problems late in its lifecycle when they were trying to tard wrangle Happy ChaosHC is fucking hitscan, how the fuck are you gonna use your mobility against him?
>>746136924I just mean strive failed to be as good as the main GG games, and the reward it got for this was never even getting close to big fighting game numbers. So there was really no point in making the gameplay bad and adding all the weird lgbt stuff. Strive will never have the immortality of a game like Plus R, nor will it be nearly as good.
>>746136979You dumb fuck, they do that to show off how the character plays. Are you actually this retarded?
>>746137290if there were +R airdashes there might have been a fighting chance of closing the distance, of course full screen bursts probably was the better solution in theory.>>746137302There's nothing inherently wrong with showing combos, the problem is if that's all that's being shown, most trailers might not even showcase unique interactions for attacks.
>>746137291>never even getting close to big fighting game numbersBut it did. 4th after mk, SF and Tekken is the definition of close just like how blazblue got close with how popular it was compared to GG or anything else not those 3 back then.
>>746138083Wait no I forgot DoA too that was one of the big boys.
>>7461380834th is a lot below 3rd in this sense. My point is strive is both really bad as a game and there’s no reason for it to be made that bad. Can’t even say “b-but it’s n-not a discord fighter!!!! stop insulting my brisket game!!!” because all the players on it are weirdos and Plus R is always going to be active even after strive dies. Even right now it’s faster and easier to get into matches in Plus R than strive because of how bad everything about strive is, including the online and ui.
>>746137919>if there were +R airdashes there might have been a fighting chance of closing the distanceOnce again, gunshot is hitscan, it hits on the frame after you press the button. It doesn't matter how fast you can close the distancePlenty of characters will move fast as hell on the ground and it still was not enough to counter the fact his gunshot is instantaneous>full screen bursts probably was the better solution in theory.Full screen burst was in relation to most of his combos being burst safe with no adjustments requiredBursting him at range does nothing, and even gives him his wincon in certain matchups
>>746137919>full screen bursts probably was the better solution in theoryyeah bro just change the entire dynamic of the game for every player just so one character has maybe a chance of being slightly weakerretard
I just don’t see any point in playing strive when plus r exists
>>746130014https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s8FmucJXB8That's obviously not true tho. Unless you're one of those schizos that says all his tournament results are fake. Honestly i'm not sure why he doesn't brag more about his CVS2 results. Winning tournaments with his wack ass team, and refusing to RC is pretty based.
>>746139049you get to play with axewounds
>>746139105Not my thing personally but I’ll leave the strivers to it
>>746139049It's fun.
>>746139049I play both because I have funI also play other fighting games, they are fun
>>746139662It’s too clunky and restricted for my tastes, and volatile with the damage and cramped screens. More power to you I suppose, maybe if I didn’t know Plus R I would have fun with strive.
>>746139731You don't get it. You have to pick 1 (one) game you like and base your personality around it.
>>746122159Thank you, good to know
>>746139049It's fun. Like the high damage, like the way it looks, like the patented GG shit that is contained to it that would be absolutely awful if you put it in any other non guilty gear game, like the simplicity.
This is what happens when you shitpost 24/7 in 4chan the last 10 years
KOFXV or CotW?
>>746139910Not him but man I've tried like nine or morefighting games? Sf6, sf3 third strike, ggs, gbrs,Tekken 7, tekken 8 soul Calibur 2 (liked it), cotw, some virtual fighter game on steam, 2xko, and some arcade game I can't remember. I'm giving my best but I just can't find any I actually like.
Playing Tokon and going back to Strive's wallbreak is so rough. They absolutely nailed the wallbreak in Tokon with it varying stage to stage and being a player choice whether to break the wall or not.
>>746142397i like tokon's stage transitions but i feel like noping out the moment i see a match played on x-mansion or champion's arena
>>746142167I suggest having fighting games be a back burner and casually keep up with whatever new fighter releases and try it out. Don't make it your mission to have a fighter you like. Forcing things never works. I took a 7 year hiatus on fighters before I picked them back up 2 months ago
>>746142397Just remove wallbreak entirely. Dumbest thing they could've added to a 2d fighting game.
I have a general question, how many people only play one fighting game? I play literally every fighting game that comes out and have a blast doing so but I'm also not super amazing at 1 single game, I can reach the higher ranks in most games but I'm intermediate at best. But If i dedicated all my time to 1 game I'd be a high rank player for sure but I'd find it a lot more boring grinding only 1 game but was curious if people feel that way.
>>746143416Nah in Tokon's case it makes stages have value and varies the gameplay. And it handles the problem of casuals hating on long combos in the corner
>>746143778You ask me, I have a personal policy of avoiding people who obsess over one thing. Always proven to be freaks. Always. For ecelebs who have a sole focus or "majority" focus on one thing like Phidx/MainManSwe, they're usually not someone to be "wary" of but they are ALWAYS proven to be such fucking cucked faggots whipped by their nostalgia they refuse to let go of. Also they usually just act like fucking insufferable faggots and are genuinely fucking stupid brainlets. Phidx especially, can't stand that faggot.
>>746141621KOFXV and COTW are both about the same size right now. KOF is edging out but COTW may get a boost with Duck King. I personally think KOF is better if you don't mind learning three characters.
What is the easiest fighting game to win a tournament in? Shit I have played>3rd Strike>VSaV>Melty AA>BB CF>Touhou Soku
>>746116267ino neutral is so easy, just dive and be safe on block or combo on hit>>746116542nothings wrong with strive but to say it has too many system mechanics is just wrong
>>746142397I kinda prefer how it's easier to fuck it up in Strive, it adds a bit of tensionNot a fan of the post-wallbreak HKD on Tokon either, it feels very degenerate and there's no reason to ever not break the wall because you just get oki.However, I really like how some stages have different "screens" and how you'll get rewarded for going for a sideswitch combo into wall slam rather than the basic corner carry route.>>746142554I don't like how much extra damage you get off wall slam, you go from 30% to 50% for no extra cost, and you get resources. And it's also very easy to get corner setups because you can break the limit super easily.
>>746143276I understand that but I just keep having this drive to try and get into them as I think they're cool as fuck. It's so demoralizing to not be able to find one and basically be told to cut my losses. No offense you you or anything.
>>746143778I prefer putting time into only one game at a time, but I'll still switch it out when bored. In that way I only grind one game, but I guess if you count the ganes I've dropped and am still decent at or the random party games I play with my friend every other week then you could say I play more than one.
>>746144513strive probably
>>746088749I think it's impressive how much seethed he caused merely over squandered potential
>>746142397i just don't like that grabs automatically break the wall, it's such a jarring momentum shift
>>746147440at least wallbreak grabs give reliable hkd oki, midscreen grabs being +5 is weird as shit
>>746087431Post the ragna culo pic
Does MK let you do hold-back-to-block or is it block-button only?
>>746151241block button like virtual fighter. The injustice games are back-to-block
>>746151306I'm sure they have their reasons beyond tradition for doing so but this has always been an issue for me. Never went in hard on MK (last one I touched was on PS2) but I've never gotten used to the block button.Also kind of frustrating that so many other devs are implementing modern and classic controls but a block button is non-negotiable.
>>746142397>They absolutely nailed the wallbreak in Tokon with it varying stage to stageNah the no wallbreak stages are just pure cancer imoWallbreaks are way better designed in this game if you ignore the no break stages yeah
>>746151536MK games are chock full of random ass fucking left right teleports
>>746151761Then let me get blown up for having shit reactions/reads. I'm a big boy, I can take it.
>>746151849Anon Scorpion had an 18f unreactable fullscreen teleport in a lot of games you need the damn block button as stupid and clunky it is
>>746151761>>746151849>>746152069I always find it weird how popular Mortal Kombat is despite being as cheap (in terms of design space) as it is. Every projectile and setup is a lot less fair than anything asian not a Kusoge
>>746152069I'm ready bro, put me in. If I think he's going to do some shit, I'll just waggle that stick back and forth. My speed, unmatched. My blocking, button-like.
>>746152257>Gets hit by a 28frame overhead with a distinct animation and audio cueAIIEEE
>>746135332so avatar?
Yipes has a shitty Tokon stream. He needs NYCFurby to help him set it up. I'm watching BBTag instead. No I don't play fighting games except for UMVC3 and Skullgirls training mode. I will buy HxH for the training mode at some point too. SG is not as fun to play, but the combos are okay enough.
>>746152370That's fine, I have a plan for that too. I can waggle the stick up and down when I think they're going to try getting cute with the overhead. And if they try to get two steps ahead by mixing up the overhead/teleport game, I'll spin the stick in a circle. I'll take the spring out of the lever, lube up the hole, and let it rip. 3000RPM, let's see them beat that.
>>746087431Thoughts on Gundam Wing Endless Duel?
>>746152257watch a scorpion in injustice 1 if you want to know how oppressive fighting scorpion without a block button looks like
Will we ever get another fighting game with characters that look like this?
Is world tour a good place to learn SF6? or to do anything at all? I know you can get the second costume from there.
>>746153083Maybe but it'll be a little doujin game that barely sells and nobody really plays.
>>746153083DA Noel is pretty close
>>746152430yes actually
>>746143778I have mained a dead kusoge older then myself for almost a decade now and everything else is a side game I play until I hit the barrier to become mediocre and call it quits. Getting "good" at my main game and trying to stay relevant is hard enough as is, I don't have the talent or smarts to just pick up games and get good so I enjoy them until I hit whatever the unfun part is.
>>746154019Shame. I don't think there's anyone else we can expect to be half naked in Melty going forward
>>746152430Avatar has fairly lengthy combos no? If I wanted to fix fighting vidya though I'd include at least one character needs a 20 second animation for his super
>>746153642Not really, just read the srk wiki on the basics and whatever character you want to play.
>>746154170Depends on the character and resources. Characters either can two or three touch you typically, weird choice considering the devs said they want this game to be neutral centric.
>>746154172And for the second costume do I just keep fighter them over and over at avatar arcade?
>>746092407>only High MasterThis is the kind of dipfuckery I expect out of YAS at 2300MR
>>746154170>>746154286Avatar combos can easily hit 20 seconds yeah. I think the game actually has like a 12 second combo limit, but super animations are as long in Avatar as they are in anything and they don't count towards it.Avatar DOES enforce neutral successfully but it does it in a really heavy handed way with system mechanics. True oki is extremely rare and weak even for the few characters who have it and you get to roll out of nearly every knockdown. I don't hate the design but it's not really what you typically think of when you think "neutral oriented".
>>746154112Elesia
>>746154301Getting the second costume is pretty annoying honestly, not only do you need to progress world tour to the point of meeting the character but you need to then find what shit to gift them so you max out their relationship meter, only then you get it. If you want to go do that and grab everyone's costume it'll probably be a good 30-35 hours.
>>746154458To see the Ciel Roa vs Hime fight would be great
>>746154170mostly azula
>>746154107man i wish i wasn't a lazy bum and had a hot fit gf to train with, fit girls are my fetish. Too bad i really fucking hate the gym. It's so boring
Why don’t I like Tokon very much?
>>746154494Dang, the illusion of "unlocking by playing". Thankfully I just want very few of those but "at the very least they are cheap" with real money.
>>746155004NTA but I mean, it IS unlocked by playing. That's the problem itself if anything, the game is forcing you to engage with its content if you want it for free. Unlocks are super fast if you've already done the campaign but the whole problem is that you have to do it when a lot of people just want to hop on ladder.
>>746154494I think it turns out the most money efficient item is actually the same for everyone. They also shifted all that stuff over to avatar arcade now and I don't know if that's better or worse.
>>746092407The main problem here is the resources cost.Imagine if in BB or GG you could start with full special power and can cancel using only 1/8 of it, and that power regenerated quickly and without negative penalty like in Street Fighter 6. and also that power is separate from your specials/astral finish. It would be insane.You can have powerful tools, but they must have a real cost>b-but burn outnothingburger
>>746154986Because there is too many mechanics and somehow "Orange Burst" is annoying.
>>746154986Hit stun.
>>746155270It's shocking how short the average interaction is in Blazblue watching it in 2026 when I remember it being the combo porn game of its era.
>>746154286>>746154409>>746154797I see, interesting. I wasn't aware they hardcapped your combo time. That's definitely a heavy handed solution but it's fairly unique
>>746137079BBCF makoto's combos feel so damn nice, none of the other characters clicked with me. i can't do her microdash links but doing the easier routes still feels great.
>>746137079Mostly learning some Merkava stuff. Just remembered I can hold 3C and cancel that into flight so I'm definitely going to be trying more of that if only to enforce low-flight into jB.I have no idea how "practical" some of these Hyde combos I took off of bmen are but I definitely feel obligated to learn a tougher, more damaging route from a counterhit 6B than the one I'm doing right now.Thinking about learning Kaguya next.
>>746156286A treat of Avatar being a rare character focused game is the wide gulf of reactions based on match up, because you have the people who scream and rage because they're getting checked by Tophs, and then you have the people playing one of the characters that invalidates her whole strategy ranking her as bottom 3.
should I lab my character or lab matchups
>>746157239If you want to get good fast you learn the basics of your character, go into matches, then lab after losses against what beat you each match then immediately return to matches. That's pretty much universally considered the best way to improve.IF YOU WANT TO TEMPER YOUR WORTH AS A HUMAN BEING YOU SKIP LAB AND PLAY MATCHES ENDLESSLY YOU AREN'T A BITCH ARE YOU?
>>746156286Kek, the Blind Bandit strikes again.>>746157151I love 9/1 and 10/10 matchups, they're the soul of interesting fighting vidya
>>746087464Does she not know that Heart Aino is Ragna's used goods?
>>746154112Roland maybe
>>746157362I wanna keep playing after I lose. Its not the arcade days where you lose money and you have to stop playing...those hard days are gone
>>746156286if we had ranked, we'd get 100x more of these.avatar, please
>>746096943Literally all they have to do is remove the DRM but Sony would never let them do that.
>>746154893Try doing something that's mentally engaging. Martial arts, rock climbing, etc.
Apparently UMvC3 rollback is real.https://x.com/raindrawing/status/2092437797621924267
I just don't know how people find UMvC3 fun with how spastic the movement is
I.AM.THE APOCALYPSE.
>>746159019wavedashing in not anime games is based and HYPE
>>746159019Speed is addicting
>>746159019The movement is the best part of that game, the other shit like the combos and x factor are the worst part.
I am once again complaining that Gill never made it into a VS game despite absolutely having a moveset compatible with the wacky bullshit that happens in VS games
>>746132906i didn't know who he was so i searched and this was one of the results>Today I'm reading "How to be a good fighting game sparring partner" while playing some Quake III Arena botmatches
I keep bouncing between plat 2 and 3 in strive
>>746159498I wish he was made a normal balanced roster character in 3S
>>746156286>J.C IS THE MOST BAFFLING BUTTON IN ANY FIGHTING GAME IT BEATS EVERYTHING IT'S GOLDLEWIS J.D THAT SOMEHOW HITS CROSSUP BUT KEEPS HER SAME SIDE???????kek
>>746159531Taking a break is your best friend
There are people out there who willingly play this character.
>>746160467She was real annoying til I figured out a lot of her stuff doesn’t have head invuln
>>746160467I couldn't get into BB but Susano was fun to play
>>746160657I’ve been playing him lately. Really cool.
>>746160745Jojo reference?!
>>746160467girls with guns are fun
>>746159062Should put him in Tokon desu. Would be a nice change of pace from Thanos as obligatory big body villain.
>>746160467I have ran into maybe 3 Noels in my 6-7 years of actively playing Blazblue.I've ran into more Plats than Noels.
>>746160892There's already Champion as the big body bruiser villain, they're gonna do Sentinel as the big body zoner one.
>>746160889I still want a BA fighting game
What game are you gonna pick up next? I'm grabbing COTW next time it goes on sale.
>>746161257avatar
>>746096943you don't hate sony enough
>>746161257VF6
>>746161257I'm morbidly curious about DoA7Might pick up Avatar down the line too
>>746161257Been eyeing alpha 3. For new games twi lumina is about all
>>746097264Any time a third party gets involved with modern Sony, they pretty much cut all ties with them afterward.Just look at Fromsoft totally peacing out after Bloodborne.
>>746161060>they're gonna do Sentinel as the big body zoner one.They should do Nimrod desu
>>746161257Maybe +R since I think Order Sol is cool. Otherwise just waiting for VF6
>up against a very high ranked player>win first match, easier than expected>he suddenly starts playing significantly better for the rest of the set, using insane mix and shit I didn't see before, and landing at least one perfectThis shit happens to me so often and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to make of it
>>746160892yeah dude, that's what we need, more roster slots wasted just for the sake of doing something different than what worked for 30 years.
>>746161650You made someone stronger than you switch to layer 2 tactics so you weren't a completely free win through auto-piloting.
>>746161257All of the current new upcoming fighting games but first priority will be Twi Lumina.
>>746161257Idk if I should keep playing fighting games as I said here >>746142167 that I've tried a lot of games and so on. I know that guy told me to put them on the back burner for a bit but idk if I should just keep going.
>>746161674This but unironically
>>746161674>for the sake of doing something different than what worked for 30 years.Yes actually
>>746161935What are you looking for in a fighting game? That's a lot of games to try and not like any. Do you have like a list of things you liked and disliked for those games, might help you narrow down your search and find something specific that you may enjoy.
>>746161674
>>746161674Exactly, glad we're on the same page.
>>746098778Nrs fucked up so bad their players focused on other games. Is this a positive for nrs scene?
>>746161674You don't wanna hear this but they should've shipped the game with Miles instead of Peter, too. and Sam Wilson Captain America instead of Steve.
>>746161257Granblue Versus on Switch 2. I think SF6 is the only other game with crossplay there and you couldn't pay me to play that shit again.
>>746162114NRSfags having their own SFV exodus
>>746162197why would you play that on switch 2?
>>746162297Because then I can practice when I'm not at home.
>>746162038Honestly I just don't know at this point. I feel like half the time I try a fighter at this point I get filtered by having to remember so much shit in newer games or the older games having single player content that acts like it's still in the arcades. Honestly idk what I want except to just have fun.
>>746161257King Bumi...Kiiiing Buuuummmiiiiiiiii...also thinkin about picking up vsav since I realised I could just swipe my hand across the buttons and hit the 6 on different frames
>>746162584Amon is winning the vote, king
>>746161650Match 1 is generally used to collect data.Like getting to know what you do on your own wakeup, what are your blockstrings of choice, if you can react to jump ins, if you know how to fuzzy block, etc.
>>746162690he's gettin in...One way or another...
>>746094285Goblin being high tier is just BS to me. He's got the best mix in Tokon, sure, but that's like being the best batter in peewee teeball. As far as the genre overall, he just isn't that hot, and Tokon has hella defensive options.
>>746162380fairs
>>746096943just fucking remove this DRM, feels like I'm being fucking gaslit when the crack is out and runs perfectly fine and the devs are just dancing around the issue saying shit like 'oh we'll try to make it better!'no nigger, you KNOW what the problem is, stop beating around the bush and address it
MK1's assists seem like a cute idea, but it's layered on a pretty tame game. If you took out the assists, I don't think it would really change the texture that much, as a spectator at least. If you tell me you're going to do a big combo with assists, I'd expect really crazy stuff, not just getting an extra juggle to keep doing boring shit.
>>746162756>but that's like being the best batter in peewee teeballyou forgot the part where he switches out to the fastest runner on his team after hittingobviously the characters alone in a vacuum would change the tiers but that's a bad way of judging tag games due to how they work
>>746162919who do you think's holding the leash, anon?
>>746162919The devs may know, but they don't get to decide. It's the publisher's call, and the devs have probably argued with them until they're blue in the face on the point already. Why the fuck would the devs not want to make their game better?
>>746162996I know, I just wish they could be honest about it since it feels like there's no way to hold sony accountable for what is obviously their fault
>>746162986>you forgotShhh, I forgot nothingYou deliberately asserted as such because you can't reply to my post in good faith, and filled gaps with assumption as if it were fact.Now go along now. Shoo shoo.
>>746161650You threatened their egos and to preserve them, they try hard to beat you. That or they didn't take you seriously and found out that they have to try to beat you.
>>746161650you woke him up
>>746160889I wish Kaguya was in a better game.
>>746163270BB Tag 2 any day now bro
>>746163316Calm down, we don't need something even worse.
>>746163131oh you're the anon who skims the fgc glossary halfway and has literally no idea what he's talking about, noted
>>746163316God, I wish
RWBY is even more irrelevant than it was back when TAG came out.What's the pick for the actual 4th series to take its place? MBTL?
>>746163664limbus company
>>746163664Melty would be better. Although might as well complete Arcana Heart, Akatsuki Blitzkampf and Senran Kagura roster first.
>>746163664rwby was Mori's push, if Daisuke's in charge it will be this
>>746163664Hear me out
>>746163838>Although might as well complete Arcana Heart, Akatsuki Blitzkampf and Senran Kagura roster first.But that means they'll have to actually make new sprites, that's too much effort.
It's weird to think that we could be living in a world where P5 Arena was real.But you know what, P5 has lame characters compared to 4 imo. Akechi's a bitch.
>>746163664Western? Avatar for sure. Yeah the fighting game is the best thing to come out of that IP in a while (movie sucked, TV series sucked, even the board game sucked), but you can't say it isn't riding some high waves after 20 years of idleness and Korra.Japanese? I dunno if I'd go with Melty TL, but the sprites are ready and high res enough. For a more niche pick, I'd go with Yatagarasu.
>>746162690Personally Blood Bending was Avatar jumping the shark. If that isn’t off limits in-universe, then what’s stopping air benders from just exploding peoples lungs? If blood is water, couldn’t any combustion of energy be fire? Could a fire bender just ramp up someone’s metabolism and cause them to wither away instantly?Dumb power creep - Dragon ball super tier
>>746163664Arcana is the least dead outside of the main 4 series since Omega is supposedly still coming out but Melty would be cool. Maybe they could throw some DFCI or Nitro+ blasterz characters in there too.Also, isn't RWBY vol 10 still happening?
>>746164048What are the chances that Mori likes Avatar?
>>746163664ArcSys published it and all
>>746164267I would accept this.
>>746164126>Also, isn't RWBY vol 10 still happening?It got greenlit a month ago.
>>746163664SNKBring back the KOF13 sprites.
>>746162380What's there to practice in Granblue?
>>746164048Nah avatar went hard as hell when it would come on in the afternoon and then when it was over you switch to toonami. It was peak
marvel tokon is an amazing game
>>746164034Yeah, but imagine timeskip Yu. Every weeb girl and fujo would throw all their other husbandos directly in the trash.
>>746164217More than zero, but he's out anyway.
>>746164267Completely forgot about this game but it's probably the best pick.
>>746163927Shit when's the last time Jack Black ever voice a video game character? He would fit sort of for english dub.
>>746164332well Iori is in Arcana Blood soooooo
>>746164034arc is now too high profile to even bargain with personaslop
>>746164389Unless they gave Joker some sick-mobility options, that dingy knife and gun was going to take a lot more creativity than Yu's kick-ass moveset and supers.The motherfucker has a command grab AND a Neo Deadly Rave.
>>746164442He voiced Steve Minecraft.
>>746164538I should've said doing VA work in a video game but that technically counts too I guess.
>>746162009because what nerds want is to buy the same damn game for 30 years and then try to justify it to other people who don't want to buy the same damn game for 30 yearshey that sounds like kof lmao
>>746164442He was in Psychonauts 2. Even did a song.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT86H75w0mk
>>746164661Oh nice
>>746160467Noel is cute and hot and fun to play. Why wouldn't you willingly play her? Other than the fact that she's shit tier
>>746161257gonna grab avatar on sale but i'm probably not gonna "pick it up", i just wanna support the devs a bit and lab it for fun. i'm all-in on blazblue in advance of the new char
>>746161650Back in my day we called this "getting downloaded"
>>746161650Adapt
Ah almos forgor duck king is today
>>746162526Legit I want to have fun but I kinda don't know what I want as I still don't know much about fighting games
I WANT ZOOEY PVSSY. GIVE ME THAT CUTE BROWN RETARD ZOOEY PVSSY RIGHT NOW. I AM GOING TO BREED ZOOEY'S ONION PVSSY UNTIL MY SEEDS PLANT AN ENTIRE GARDEN OF THEM.Also I like playing Soriz
>>746160467I thought her drive rekka is very fun
>2xko so ass and forgettable that the whole general gaming public has forgotten itEven Concord was talked about for a month
>>746166929It feels more like an entire stance moveset than a simple rekka.But I guess a 4-5 hit rekka is an accurate representation of her drive too.
>>746167335Concord was an astonishingly swift failure. It was such a strange thing, seeing a game that had physical copies printed being taken offline after two weeks.Tons of games have died in the same kind of life cycle as 2XKO. Concord stayed in the zeitgeist because it was a unique disaster, like the Hindenburg.
>>746167335the gaming public doesnt even know it came out, let alone been EOS'd
>>746094803rundown on diaphone specifically? i dont really follow streams and all that. what will he do now?
>>746167713Fake zooey fan
>>746167335Two times knockin out
>>746167713It's nothing honestly, he just wanted to ride the 2XKO wave that never came but he's fine even with it did because he's popular enough to just be a general fighting game streamer. He has a good niche since he's the only white guy who can both run streams while maintaining a good competitive performance so people will watch him.
>>746158948When UMVC3 does get rollback what would the average player numbers even be? I don't think it'd have more players than 3rd strike in fightcade
>>746161257Playing the fuck out of Tokon now, waiting for Avatar to come out of early access to play that more. They will be my 2 main games moving forward.
>players never want to run long sets in quick match>players leave shitposts on my profile when i beat them>players ki charge which is the equivalent of taunting in other games when they win a gameWhy are Tekken players so toxic? At most I experience rage quitting in other fighting games but Tekken players behave like such bitches
>>746159781toph is the epitome of J.C and JC porn.
>>746161257Avatar. I pirated it and I think I like mashing buttons with Korra enough
>>746164119>what’s stopping air benders from just exploding peoples lungs?Their pacifistic culture that got them genocided, you donut. Do you think the fire nation wanted them dead because they figured out they could fly?>Could a fire bender just ramp up someone’s metabolism and cause them to wither away instantly?Yes nigger, the only limit to bending is willpower and imagination, like all the best power systems. The best benders like Bumi, Azula, Toph and Hama develop powerful abilities by paying a huge physical/mental toll, just like people sacrifice normalcy to be the best at anything. It's very well written, at least in ATLA.
>>746159781epitome of menacing buttons
>>746164119Bloodbending can only be done under a full moon and only the most skilled water benders can do it. The only exception was Amon and his dad who were psychic blood benders, and that's even more rare since its genetic.
>>746137079Rachel's.Still haven't finished the last three hard missions
>>746164119I think the villain in the new movie does the lung exploding thing actually.
>>746160467I'd play if I played Blazblue because she reminds me of Cassandra.
>>746166375That's tomorrow bro. Close.
>>746135325They like playing combo porn games, and thus make games that they want to play.Call it a never ending cycle or whatnot
My newest realization is that its fine to just follow the franchises you enjoy and not follow the genre as a whole. I like SF, SNK (pre XIV) and VF and thats fine. No need to follow every game and I will ignore the rest of the genre from now on.
>>746166495
>>746173310You're a bit stupid aren't you?
sf6 is the worst fighting game ever made and it killed fighting games.
>>746173991He's coming for you. Big dick Soriz still has gas in the tank.
>>746167335What annoys me about 2XKO's death is all the FGC grifters crying and mourning about this game like it was the second death of Christ, you see it everywhere on Youtube and Reddit, and Riot as some evil greedy tyrannical company when in reality, Riot have them 10 years, 100+ million in salaries and free reign to make a successful game. Fucking Pattheflip openly admitted to treating 2XKO as his personal hobby, didn't give a shit if the game was flop or not, bragging about scamming Riot for 10 years and even mocking the people who were hoping 2XKO would be the next big thing. If this was what Pat was thinking, imagine the rest of the team.Had it been COTW, Granblue or Uni dying in less than a year, nobody in the FGC would have given a shit. Hell, they would have even made fun of these games too.
>>746174764i don't watch content creators and you sound mentally ill. Try watching less content or at least try to not pretend that were your equals. /sfg/ is that way.
>>746174365And this is why COTW should have been a hit instead of the FGC working overtime to kill it and banking on 2XKusO. Now Capcom can do whatever the fuck they want with you because they know you'll still buy and play their shit anyway. This is why Capcom will never have to innovate or work hard again for the future of SF.
>>746160467It is utterly baffling, they should be playing this one instead.
>>746175184How is it possible for a fully grown woman to be built like a stick
>>746175094Maybe SNK shouldn't have copied SF6 and also put in two celebrities no ome gives a shit about.
>>746174365SF6 is the only successful game out right now. Hate it or love it. Without it the genre would be pretty much extinct on the spot. Capcom did their best to promote other games like FF but SNK being SNK obviously didn't catch any hype with a lot of bullshit decisions. Instead of copying SF6 mechanics what other fighting games need to do is copy how it was promoted. Partnering with streamers is a necessary evil, giving easier entry options for newcomers is also a necessary evil unfortunately.
>>746175286Very American post
>>746175949>SF6 is the only successful game out right nowYou sound mentally ill. Probably the samefaggot>>746175094>>746174764Why do you think we or I care about what's or what's not the most popular? 100% mentally ill. Keep necrobumping these threads for another 24 hours holmes.
>>746175184Hatless noel is better Yeah i said it
>>746161257I picked up Avatar since Tokon's performance is still shittyStill gotta learn Katara proper but mashing was fun
>>746174315No, you.
>>746161257I wanted to go back to Strive or SF6 but both my mains got up into top and god tier and I refuse to be considered a meta slave.
>>746120462>Play Strive>Get bodied, lobbies full of newbie hunters, ranked impossible.>Go to a discord>Can learn what works for my character, actually win a match or two.Second time I've tried a discord for a fighting game and now I get it. I'm almost willing to accept discord fighters. Almost.
>>746161257>I'm grabbing COTW next time it goes on sale.Do yourself a favor and main a character that can run instead of dashing. trust me on this
>>746132716>Sonic Smackdown is dead because of this>Never even got the rollback netcode.Fuck.
>>746183658>ranked impossible.There's less difference in skills between early tiers than you thinkIt's only gonna suck if you're an absolute beginner and you somehow get placed like Platinum
Strive replay takeover when?please god
>>746175094>Bank on tag slop>It's usually bad!Tale as old as oki, same old story
i played fightan for five years and i NEVER focused on the opponent, just reached the high rank by overwhelming people with offense and the latest fringe tech found on discord. So, how the fuck do i "download" people?What should i pay attention to? I have legit zero pattern recognition, completely underdeveloped skill, if you ask me what my opponent did 20 secs ago i don't even remember cause i only think about my own shit
>>746185159You play anime games nigga your opponent doesnt matter only thing that matters in those games if you can do your flowchart of anime bullshit more efficiently then your opponent
>>746185396*blocks your mix and jabs out your pressure reset*
>>746185159Just watch? Do anything that has layers and take note of how they react, then adjust accordingly.
>>746185159Block. Purposely put yourself on defense and block their offense.You're going to get hit doing this and probably lose a round or game but that's fine. 90% of people will autopilot their offense so pay attention to what they're trying to open you up with and where you got hit. Next time you're in a defensive situation, if you paid attention, you'll have an idea of what they're going to do and hopefully how to respond to it. For example, if they like to dash up throw after a certain button or go for an overhead at the same time every time, you'll have a good read on when to mash out.You can also do "nothing" at neutral and just watch what they're doing to get a read on them. Dash forward, airdash back, throw out quick, safe moves like jabs and see how they react. If you notice they're airdashing at you when you do jab or something then you'll know exactly what they're going to do and when. Then it's just a matter of baiting them into doing it again and being ready to react.>tl;dr Play passively and watch what your opponent is doing
>>746157362I saw a Virtua Fighter 5 player do it where they play a ranked set, and win or lose, they immediately go to the lab and find 3 or so interactions worth noting and lab those. Usually, it's something that blew him up, but it's also stuff like finding a better punish than the one used in the match, or realizing a particular move is duckable and figuring out a punish. Don't overwhelm yourself trying to find EVERYTHING. Just find a couple things, experiment and practice for a bit, then go again.
>>746185556Sure you did pal
>>746087431I feel so disassociated with this community, with fighting games. People seem to enjoy the amount of casualized fighting games. But I cannot
I hate this character, his mixups and pressure is fake, but I get caught out
>>746094285Is that Iron Man in A? Why does he have that Gundam head-crest?
>>746188731Because Sony specifically requested Arcsys to animefied Marvel
>>746189480i like it tbdesu, i think he looks cool even if he looks significantly different from the "normal" iron man
>>746175184>that TNS top 8 where a noel player starts the bracket horribly but then whips out the hat install and starts bodying everyone until he wins the whole thingThe hat is just too powerful.
>>746175094SNK niggas come up with the least convincing arguments for why others should play their games
>>746190312Need more girls with military berets
>>746190572City of the Wolves must have slipped their mind.
>>746190572they definitely forgot about InvincibleVS
>tokon is still not aveilable on linuxactual anti-consumer practices hahaha jajaja very xdwwwloolololroflcoptering my assOf course the fightan game community is going to suport a product that rapes their rights
>>746190572Iron Saga Vs bros...
>>746190540True, true.
>>746190746you don't want this game on linuxit's maybe fun for 2 weekswhen you turn on your brain everything in the game is ugly
>>746190913Why they are showing me they brappers
>>746190993doesn't matter, congrats to Sony for now having a cancerous IP , that puts them on the same level as literally satan inc.>battlefield - EA>call of dooty - EA>grand shit auto online - Rocksar>Tokon - Sony :D
>>746190572>push squareWho would believe their words
>>746191243COD EA?
>>746185159It's already been said, but>Sit and wait.90% of opponents are spastic tards that'll go in and do their ooga booga offense shit, kinda like you! Unlike you, hopefully, they'll do something often because they're comfortable / getting away with it.>Assholes who jump>Assholes who spam throws>They don't have full combo mastery so they confirm off of one to two things.>They wait for you to do something and then try to spaz out, etc.It's why I play grapplers. I'm forced to see what I'm up against per player, and if I don't download, I'm fucking cooked. REALLY gets your blood pumping when you make people scared to jump and then give em the ground business. Conditioning is super fun!
>>746191217It's their defeat pose, the only natural response to losing in battle.
>>746190540Every female NOL characters in Blazblue have mandatory uniform that are the same as Noel including the beret. Imagine if Blazblue has costume select and changing Tsubaki or Mai or Makoto using berets.
>>746191352the other EA
>>746191610Rape noellers
