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Reminder this is a LOLI and she must stay

>>746094541
gta and cp77 fanbases are two abused pederasts who argue about who got abused more.

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>>746094541

> rockstar game not sluggish

Cyberpunk is still shit and CD Project Dead are bad devs

>>746094541
How the fuck do cyberpunk fans exist after the blatant scam and botched release
Do goyim deserve to die?

it's not sluggish but CD projekt can't into satisfying combat as seen on both W3 and 2077, both games also have terrible equipment systems (in Witcher 3 you only want the green witcher tier items and 2077 is craftingslop)

>>746094541
>GTA players
You can safely disregard whatever they say as worthless brownspeak

>>746094541
now show the 15 mins before and after killing 6-7 enemies with zero chance of dying

>xitter thread

>>746094708
The whole "works on my PC crowd" rallied behind it.

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cyberpunk chads wonned bigly

>>746094541
WTF is that BS, CP gameplay can be as super fucking fast as you want it, super speed, sandevistan, mantis jump, double jump, shit can be mental as you want it.

>>746094541
modern GTA feels like I'm running in molasses

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>>746094541
we'll never again get a game as buggy on launch as Cyberpunk and it makes me sad

>>746094708
No bro it got an anime by my favorite studio with a blue man group reject I wanna fuck so it's le good now!!

>>746094874
If we're talking cyberpunk vs gta, the latter wins bigly in sales

(Unfortunately. I hope the fans all die in a slow and painful way.)

cyberpunk combat can go as fast or slow as the player wants. you can do high-speed leaping around like you're on crack, or just stand there in slow-mo selecting enemies to upload quickhacks against

>>746095152
>ragdoll touches prop
>both become weightless
why is this so common

>>746094708
>completely ignored the marketing hype and by consequence all the lies and expectations
>waited until it was heavily discounted, and by consequence, skipped all the rough patches and unplayable release
>when I finally played it, it was a descent open world game
I didn't get bamboozled like retards and consequently had fun instead of seething about what could have been

>>746094541
This is the full video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aceFr4K9D-Y

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>>746095274
ah so it's people who can't even spell. checks out.

Cyberpunk was fucking boring just like how RDR2 was boring. fucking open world boring slop with shit story and shit characters. GTA6 will likely be the same.

>>746094541
Killing random civilians and fighting the cops in 2077 is far better and more engaging than doing the same in GTA. Cyberpunk would've destroyed GTA forever in normies' eyes if it had respawns at hospitals like GTA instead of save loading.

>>746094541
cyberpunk is a good game DESPITE its horrendous gunplay and movement. imagine what could have been

>>746094708
They fixed everything you stupid faggot

>>746094708
Slap an anime bitch on a brand and you just earned 9000 izzat

>>746094541
if a shooter doesn't have zoomer cod movement it's sluggish

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>>746094708
They tapped into the massive “little girls with feet” genre (>>746094618) that’s been getting explosively popular. 4chan is once again in charge of the cultural zeitgeist. If a game doesn’t have a little girl with feet, it fails.

>>746094541
>cattle drones arguing about goyslop 1 vs goyslop 2

>>746094708
Better question would be "how the fuck do fans exist"
Fan is a fanatic and if you're a fanatic about a piece of entertainment media then you are a smoothbrained little piggy

Cyberpunk only really works when you're deep in augs and skill levels. Also when you're chilling on lower difficulty. It takes a bit too long for max difficulty to really get off the ground, and even by then you're still not juiced enough to pull off some of the needless stuff people do in these rehearsed videos. Once it all comes together it works better than expected but still not good enough, the guy is right there is a degree of something keeping you from fully enjoying movement and shooting. I think the first issue is the guns themselves are more visually oriented than actually meant for combat.

>>746095474
>>746094708
It didn't deliver on its promises to be the greatest most immersive and fully realized role playing game in the history of gaming and all time past, present and future, with stated features that no one who wasn't 10 years old in 2015 should have believed in the first place.

Instead it was released when it still needed more time in the oven and with missing features that they've since largely or completely delivered upon. And it had bugs present, which while real, were overblown by bandwagoning clout chasing youtubers. The sudden switch up on the game "over an anime" seems fickle, because it was. It always had good bones. Retards now praise how incredible an experience the story is and all of that. The story was already fucking written before the years of patches they delivered to bring gameplay up to snuff, it didn't blink into existence.

Now it's one of the best triple A titles of the past 10+ years (inb4 "that's a low bar", what's your fucking point goalpost mover). Far better game than Witcher 3, too.

>>746095552
See >>746095312 2077 has far crazier combat than COD.

>>746094829
I played it for around 10~ hours after launch on a PC from fucking 2015 and didn't run into any of the gamebreaking insane bugs that subhuman youtubers made 15 minute videos of for maximum engagement because that's all that matters now. Most of this thread's entire personal truth about this game was cemented 6 years ago by fucking "influencers".

>>746094708
I pirated it when it got "fixed" and thought it was decent, certainly a disappointment compared to what was promised.

cyberpunk still has some expanding to do which makes sense since they were adapting the pen and paper 2020 books for the first game, thats why we didn't see full borg parkour character until edgerunners 2, they didn't know people would be glitch jumping up to the highest buildings, they hadn't yet fully conceptualized transferring your own soul like a puppet and make enemy shoot itself as you leave, the ideas are still forming

GTA however peaked with SA and i'm tired of entertaining rockstars mental illness, you used to have soundtracks, you used to have funny radio stations, what do you have now,

shark cards.

>>746094708
because they fixed it, mister lives under rocks and spams their first impression only until the end of time. are we pretending bugs don't exist again?

and stop fucking saying "goyim"

>>746095274
>unplayable release
the release wasn't even that bad, only consoles and especially PS4 was shit. I barely met the minimum requirements on PC and my experience was mostly bug free and fun, even if it was 20-30 fps

>>746094541
CP2077 is an action-rpg and it's still faster and more responsive than cockstar games. rdr2 was basically just those old school arcade shooting games, dodge behind cover, pop 1-3 enemies, back to cover, repeat billions of times.

Cyberpunk >>> Goy Theft Auto

>>746094541
cyberpunk is the netflix version of gta in every possible meaning

>>746094708
They made some shitty anime and paid every shilltuber and streamer to say "it's fixed now!" and that was good enough for them

So to answer your question, yes.

>the battle of mid

>boot up cyberpunk
>some meathead mexican robs me
>game forces me to be his best friend while I do this forced tutorial shit
>close game
>refund
Yeah I'll take one copy of GTA6 please.

Anons like to call other people cattle and normies and then they fall prey to the most obvious, idiotic ragebait.
Anons also cannot comprehend that a game can be better now than it was on release. And they listen to assmongol and other retards instead of forming their own opinion. If a game was shit on launch and an influencer made a clickbait video about it, it's forever a shit game and the people playing it are retards

>>746094708
Yes, they do.

>>746096221
holy shit, there’s another person on 4chan with an actual functioning brain

>>746096579
fucking LMAO @ u
Rockstar games railroad you from the beginning to the end and if you saddle the wrong horse it's game over.
Besides, why are you surprised that quests go the way the writer wrote them to go? It's not a sandbox rpg like TES games, you kind of have to play as V and not as dickstab thief

>>746094541
well it is kind of sluggish 'feeling' just because of the engine, you're really pushing against and beyond what it's capable of. but it's definitely still fun to go completely haywire.

>>746095752
Now I want a game with jap ghost loli just to spite feetfags

>>746096615
asmongold was canceled like a month ago, but your point about having your own opinions should be a form you fill out before you're allowed to type on the internet at this point, otherwise its just parrots parroting

actually saw this happen in a stream the other day "should I trust moist crit or other guy" regarding mortal shell 2, and im like, you have eyes, decide for yourself.

that goes for everyone.

>>746096746
I never played rdr

>>746095752
>4chan is once again in charge of the cultural zeitgeist
just barely, inbetween the feds and the israeli payed indian bot network of human bot spammers spamming, and tavistock trying to shit up every board until everyone leaves (LMFAO kill yourself unironically tavistock. do it.)

>>746096829
I think a part of it is the fact that people on 4chan are now a lot younger than I am and I'm still in the delusion that this place has users my age, like it used to be.
And the barely adult fags grew up in influencer era and it is absurd to an almost 40 year old

>>746096221
>>746096724
Anyone feel bad for people like this? Like out of all the games in the world you become a fanboy and apologist for this soulless mid goyslop turd. Genuinely sad

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>>746094541
Saar do not redeem the cyberpunk, what are you, prostitute??

>>746097331
retard
>>746096221
you are correct and i hate when morons who didn't play the game until the anime loudly announce they fixed everything when it's not even that different to what it was at launch

>>746094829

> 50% of all /v/ threads are poors complaining about being poor

>>746097525
so, stop price fixing GPUs and maybe people will stop bitching, just a thought, ooooh wait you desperately want to win "the AI race" for war reasons. moronic military industrial complex faggots. yeah I said it, I don't give any more fucks, all of my fucks are gone.

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>>746094541
The funniest part is the video in that post is like
20% of what you can achieve
my current cyberpunk playthrough i'm speedmaxxxing with katana only
and you can literally move and kill so fast it's honestly difficult to keep up with what's happening onscreen

>>746097636
>he thinks a random anon with more money than him is a hostile entity who personally oversees and decides how the tech race and GPU prices go

>>746097636

> price fixing

nigger if there was no demand no scalping would exist for it - it's just supply and demand because the retailers are price locked by contract with nvidia - you are an ignorant child - get a fucking job

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>>746094708
>How the fuck do cyberpunk fans exist after the blatant scam and botched release
the anime somehow made normies pretend the game didnt suck at launch and still has not changed into what was promised prior to the launch

>>746097753
>move and kill so fast it's honestly difficult to keep up with what's happening onscreen
I ran into the same issue and changed my build and style to a tanky machinegun and explosives kind of thing and it's slower for sure but still fun as fuck to keep going BRRR and explode everything

>>746094541
it is sluggish, the basic movement sucks ass

>>746094708
By not playing on console, mainly
I played on release on PC, and apart from a couple of visual bugs, I finished the game with 0 real problems

and also because CDPR is one of the few AAA studios left that can still write decent characters and stories
but you retards are too focused on 'muh ecelebs' to even pretend to actually have tried it properly

>>746097895
>what was promised prior to the launch

this is one of the key things about CP77 - the fanboy no-lifers who followed this shit years before launch are not at all the same as those regular gamers who didn't pay attention to it until it launched or until patch 1.3 dropped because we have actual lives and jobs and income and other things to occupy our time with

you dumb fuck niggers always think your little bubble is the entire rest of the gaming community

>>746098015
They haven't even mentioned e-celebs, many faggots on /v/ are just adamant that the entire story and every bit of character writing is terrible. End of subject.

>>746098058
this is also a good point
i never follow game hype and try to go into it blind

so are there things I wish the game did better? lifepaths mattering, jackie being around longer, the early game montage being playable? Yes. Did those things stop me from enjoying an otherwise really interesting game? Not at all

You people ruin it for yourselves, 100%.

>>746094541
The GTAVI leaks already make.2077 feel 20 years old and like cheap shit.

>>746098110
Basically 99% of the complaints I see about cyberpunk are always 'hurr johnny keanu chungus' when Johnny is literally one of the best parts of the game

>>746094541
Cyberpunk mogs GTA in every aspect.

>>746098280
RDR2 mogged 2077 the day it came out you fucking retard.

>>746098316
nta but I don't think RDR2 mogs cyberpunk in a single department.
no, that's not true. It has better physics and crowd simulations.

Aaaaand that's literally it. Cyberpunk has better music, a better story, better gunplay, a more interesting world to explore, better characters... Pretty much everything.

Not a single Goy Theft Auto game has lived up to the hype. I remember reading the Official Xbox Magazine back in 2012, and people were saying the game would allow you date girls like in IV, that you'd play as a cop, that the game would have climate and seasons and you'd have to refuel cars. Of course, that never happened. People give Cyberpunk a hard time for its launch, but seemingly forget that the rumors made IV and V seem much grander than they were.

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>>746098417
>>746098419
Cope you fucking cucks

>>746098419
I played through GTA 5 for the first time this year and it's so fucking uninteresting
They really have just been stripping gameplay from the series over and over
SA feels like a game, 4 already felt like more of a sim and tech demo than an actual game, 5 is just a bunch of shitty cutscenes. There's literally nothing else to do.

>>746098316
I wish every container and body I looted locked me into a 3 second cutscene.

I also wish that Cyberpunk, which everyone is saying has dogshit clunky movement, had 2 seconds of input delay on turns so that I could feel "immersed" by the "weight" of my character. Maybe then it could live up to the MOGGING that RDR2 laid down, cementing it as the greatest """GAME""" of all time, which we all know it to be.

>>746098501
>we want to take out time and not rush projects so we don't get a cyberpunk scandal again
don't see what that article has to do with rdr2 or cyberpunk, but you sure told me
average gta fan reading comprehension I guess

>>746094541
It's a very mediocre action game and a dogshit RPG. I really don't see why'd consider this game anything but a 6/10 fun pastime.

>>746098603
CDPR cleans and shines Rockstar's balls and shaft is my point. They have no quality or social capital over Rockstar. To the extent you think they do, it just further makes you look misinformed and fucking stupid.

>>746098549
Rockstar don't give a shit about the singleplayer anymore. They know it's multiplayer that brings the money in.

Mind you, the multiplayer also sucks, but it at least explains why the SP feels so barebones.

>>746098316

RDR2 animations and the characters never despawn or lose their spot on the map, no "phasing" in/out - but everything else CP does better

>>746096340
what are you jewish?

>>746098549
>>746098419
GTA5 doesn't become "interesting" until you unlock Trevor which takes like 4-5 fucking hours. Red Dead Redemption 1 lets you off the boat and then forces you into a 5? minute "ride a horse down a predefined path you cannot stray from while you're talked at" sequence before forcing you to do tutorial missions for the woman, after which it becomes literally GTA with horses (I hadn't played it since I beat it at launch; I was shocked how well that old joke held up). RDR2 is like 10x worse because it's now inflated with obnoxious "immersive sim" elements cooked into every animation that even derided movie games like The Last of Us don't force as hard. Its fundamental gameplay is the same as every other Rockstar game in existence. Travel a kilometer to your next objective while you listen to the INCREDIBLE OUTRAGEOUS SUBVERSIVE MOVIE QUALITY WRITING Rockstar is known for and clearly autofellates over, do a little mediocre third person shooting, flee, repeat.

>>746098501
They've surpassed Rockstar already.

>>746098728
>Compliment someone
>Lol glazing that dick!!!
How do I know you're underage?

You must think Mojang or CoD devs are the greatest devs ever because their games are popular. Lurk more or grow a brain. No wonder you like GTA.

>>746098728
Talking about "cleaning and shining shaft and balls" as your go to metaphor makes you look like a massive faggot and fucking gay.

>>746098745
I don't know about him but as an esoteric fascist we should have gatekept anti-semitism and racism harder.

>>746098896
Even when you unlock trevor
the only difference is that the cutscenes that involve him are occasionally funny
otherwise you're still just going from mission to mission which are all 'drive here' or 'kill these people'.

>>746094708
worked on my PC, piss station 4 faggots are the one who got fucked over

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>>746098996
CP2077 does nothing better as far as open world or story goes. It's characters, writing, music score, open world simulation, radiant AI, physics, dynamic lighting, attention to detail, content and almost everything is amateur when compared to Rockstar. CDPR dropped the road map for 2077, didn't make the online and have now abandoned their own in-house engine for Unreal Engine. They are are a 3rd tier or lower dev.

>>746099270

RDR2 writing and story are gay as fuck, nigger - enjoy your 8 feminist and KKK bashing side quests - your mediocre as fuck main story

>>746097771
>get a job
fuck you. gpus cost more than my car, fuck off with your cope

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>>746094618
Based!

>>746098058
i dont care what cope you come up with when a dev team says x game is going to have a laundry list of shit alongside showing it at e3 with gameplay of it being there then it launches and it runs like shit and doesnt have anything shown from years of interviews to the E3 footage

you cant defend that

>>746094541
Cyberpunk was fun. Can’t say GTA V was in any way better. GTA VI is banking more on social sim, perhaps it’ll be its saving grace.

CP glazing is insane, it's on par with games like Watch Dogs Legion quality wise, why the fuck do people pretend to like it as much as TW3

>>746099270
>characters
ah yes, the masterfully written characters like Arthur 'you're a good man arthur morgan' *kills 500 cops*' Morgan and Micah *shoots up an entire town for fun* Bell

>Writing
Yes, RDR2's story is truly a masterpiece. Some dude is a piece of shit, feels bad, then saves another dude who is also a piece of shit. Roll credits. Bravo Nolan.
>Music score
I don't remember a single fucking track from the game, so I can't even criticise it. That tells me it's below bad, it's generic.
>open world simulation
Sure, there's more NPC variety. I wouldn't call it simulation. Do whores fuck their customers, do bar brawls start when you're not there, do people go into shops and buy things? no.
>radiant AI
Buzzwords. AI fights if you make them mad. That's the depth of it.
>Physics
Sure, game has better ragdolls. I do give it that one.
>Dynamic lighting
Eh. I'd say both games can look very good under the right circumstances.
>Attention to detail
Both have many examples of this
>Content
I'd say both have similar amounts of content, but Cyberpunk's is usually more interesting

Try again.

>>746099630

sure i can, wait for a fucking review, buy it or don't buy it, it's not your fucking life it's an entertainment product

Do Cyberleecucks really want to watch another man play *their* vidya? Or is it just europoors that can't handle losing the $20 they'd get from reselling GTA 6 in 5 years?

>>746099504
remember that he's perfectly fine with stealing, murdering, and beating folk but stop the line at racism

>>746099695
Some people enjoy actually interesting stories and nuanced characters instead of reddit cutscenes of trevor saying her's gonna fuck someone up the ass before riveting missions where you shoot 50 bikers

to each their own

>>746096221
Unfortunately, a lot of people didn't give a shit about many of those promises and only really cared about the open world shit.

>>746097936
Are you talking about GTA or cyberpunk? Theres plenty to criticize about cyberpunk but movement being sluggish is definitely more of a problem in GTA/RDR2 where it takes 5 seconds for a character to turn around

Even normalfags can see how bad Cyberpunk really is.
An RPG with vehicles and first-person combat where:
>the RPG systems are shit
>the vehicles are shit
>the first-person combat is shit

>>746099905
>fall for marketing hype
>get mad and disappointed
>criticise others when they don't fall for it and just enjoy the game

crazy levels of mental gymnastics
at least it made you learn a fucking lesson
stop ruining games for yourself

>>746099905
Most people don't think Cyberpunk has good open world.
The reason most people like it is the story and characters are interesting. It's not that deep.

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>>746099802
You're a cuck. 2077 was an embarrassment to video games

>>746094708
>How the fuck do cyberpunk fans exist after the blatant scam and botched release
It's a fun game.

>>746099971
oh yeah it's shit in both, but cyberpunk doesn't have good movement

i love cp
but about cyberpunk, like every other game, i play it when it's been out for years, so all the complaints about a buggy launch literally do not affect me at all
im sorry many of you had an unfortunate experience, but that should be a lesson to not pre-order or buy games the milisecond they come out

>>746099270
RDR2's open world looks so boring you could find more interesting visuals in literally any random Western movie.

>>746095274
I did the exact same thing you described and played it for the first time a couple weeks ago
It was mediocre. It's not great as an FPS and barely has RPG elements in it

>>746100190
I'm sure I would think that too, if I was a lobotomite like you who cares more about shitty healines and twitter threads instead of actually playing games

>>746099901
>hacker girl
>car girl
>serious detective guy
>asshole rockstar guy
>gay rockstar guy
Wow, such interesting characters, never seen their likes before in any media, ever.

>>746100929
Also, 4 out of 5 of them just automatically fall in love with you after you spend a total of 30 in-game minutes together because the writing had to be finished by a chatbot two weeks before final release.

>>746100929
if you think that's legitimately all there is to pretty much any of those characters, then you have no media literacy.

Except River. He is pretty shitty and one-dimensional and no one likes him.

>>746101098
Oh, they're regular characters but it turns out they like, think living in a dystopia fucking sucks. That's so deep bro. Let me jerk it to the sex audio from the sex cutscene.

This is like comparing two troughs, one filled with liquid shit and loggy floaters in it and the other filled with fat crusty shitlogs .

>>746094541
Cyberspunk fatigue kicked in KWAB

>>746101362
Now you're literally just grasping.

I'll give you some examples.

Johnny is interesting because his whole shtick is a facade, and he slowly realizes his life was completely fucking meaningless. And in the end, he starts being more candid and trusting someone, and begins understanding that the 'hard way' doesn't always work.

Panam is interesting because she's a fucking cunt (and thus a very realistic depiction of a woman) because she's spoiled at her camp and thus gets immense delusions of grandeur. She's also very funny when you call her out on it and she actually has a melty and tells you she wishes scavs would rape your corpse. But also Saul is a bit of a pussy, so in her particular storyline, her actually having balls works out (though i'm not gonna pretend like the aldecaldos didn't get absolutely destroyed by militech after the shit they pulled)


None of the characters even has that particular 'dystopia sucks' shit you're talking about. You sound like you've never actually done any of their quests.

>>746101583
>he slowly realizes his life was completely fucking meaningless
Not really, it's just that one landfill scene. Everything else is him being an edgy if self-aware cunt.
>her actually having balls works out
And she learns nothing. 0 character development, just like V.

>>746094708
Retard.

>>746101740
>Not really, it's just that one landfill scene. Everything else is him being an edgy if self-aware cunt.
Nah, he has plenty of other self-aware moments. When he tells you about his military service and gives you dog tags, when he talks to you at the end of Phantom Liberty, etc. And for the most part, apart from the very beginning, he's mostly just bantering with you.

>She learns nothing, 0 character development
Granted. I do really dislike Panam for this, but all I can say she's at least interesting to watch and not just 'car girl'. She actively burns everything around her. I DO wish the game would reflect that a bit more and not let her get away with it, but yeah.