https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-117It adds new armors, NPC invasions and Horse Armors for Torrent
>>746260498be sure to thanks Nintendo for this btw
>>746260498>Still no one has found the last new armor setPeople have had the Switch 2 version for days at this point too
>>746260656Average Nintendo hater on the right
>>746260646Tendies are too busy licking bull's semen out of their wife's cunt
>greatshield buffs across the boardI'm willing to bet this is to make it even easier to cheese PCR.
>>746260498Naisu
>>746260498I saw that you can turn torrent into a nightrider horse. what the fuck is this mmo/gacha shit?
>>746260613Thank you Miyazaki for finally doing the right thing
enemy placement shuffles? no? not replaying then
>>746260613thank you Nintendo for pushing devs to do the right thing
>>746260498wtf they are still updating elden ring?
>>746260613Thank for what exactly, a paid horse armor dlc?
>>746260958The ARG wasn't discovered until 2 weeks ago.
>>746260958yes because it's releasing on the 28th for the Switch 2
>>746260958Gotta break those mods every now and thenLike Todd does with Skyrim
>>746260613thank you nintendo
>>746260498So is the little paid DLC just for the starting classes, and the new stuff being added can still be found in the world by everyone? or can it only be found if you buy the DLC?
>>746260498I was hoping they'd add DLSS since the switch version most likely uses it but nope. Really pisses me off I have to play offline to remove the cancer that is TAA.
>>746260656trannies are unironically anti-nintendo in spirit since they loathe anything fun or innocent and must corrupt it with their delusion (i.e. the western developer spirit) and nobody has a good counter argument against this btw
What about perfomance fixes, esp those one that was introduced after DLC?
>>746261162according to videos from nintendo there are countless performance fixes for the switch 2 version
>>746261162Please understand. All optimization efforts were spent trying to get the game not to shit itself unto infinity on the Switch 2.
>>746260613i'm so glad i bought a switch 2 on release day liek a year ago, best investment with zero (0) regrets to this day, elden ring now, the duskbloods tomorrow thank you nintendo
>>746260996Qrd?
complete nothingburger of a patch if you were considering returning to the game btw
>>746260613thanks Nintendo
>>746261310There is an ARG in the game and anon found it 2 weeks ago and has been storytiming it on /vg/. The entire gameworld exists to facilitate the ARG.
>>746260656This is what chuds fantasize about
>>746261215Well it's still dropping frames so they should have done a better job.https://youtu.be/6oetArwJhZc?t=90
>>746261215Still doesn't stop the game from not reaching close to 60fps, having poor textures, draw distance and slow loading times, tendie. Nintendo also lied about the switch 2 version having exclusive content, when the reality is that it's available for every single version.
>>746260656GANBARE NONMONE
>>746261460>>746261462>i watched>it looks likeroflmao
>still no 50% off sale>still no discount on erdtree at allI sleep zzzz
FromSoft is selling Horse armor now?
>>746260656was he right /b/ ?
>>746260613Thank you Nintendo.
>>746260498This feels like a very arbitrary list of stuff to buff and nerf, like yeah the bird's feather incantation was awful but how about Elden Stars? Just port the Nightreign version which is much better.Why nerf Rakshasa and Gravitational missile because of PvP but leave everything else the way it is?
>>746261137
>>746261553Thats what the discord is trying to say, it isn't sticking though.
>>746260498>heavily nerfed rakshasa's>nerfed gravitational missile by not having it instantly explode anymore>nerfed rugalea's roar>nerfed hitstun on rotten breath>buffed throwing weapons>buffed all the garbage spells>buffed parry, storm wall and thope's barrier>buffed rewards in the realm of shadow>changed the scaling on the carian sorcery sword (no clue what they mean by this)>buffed perfumes>buffed greatshieldshow did it take this long for rotten breath to get nerfed. shitter hosts in shambles.
>>746260498Sorry, chud. I'm not playing unmodded Elden Ring again and updating the game will break mods.
>>746261607Oh nono troontendosisters what is this?
>>746261685>how did it take this long for rotten breath to get nerfed.It got nerfed multiple times
>>746260996>>746261389I swear to god if you're that cancerous twin birds theory fag
>>746261768No it is just an ARG about the deeplore in the game.
>>746261734aside from the one thing that matters sure
>>746261389>From is so terrible at storytelling that it took people 4 years to find hidden content I believe this
>>746260498>Reduced cast time for meteorite spellsAre they somewhat viable now?
>>746261137There's nothing fun or innocent about a company that shuts down non profit fan projects, closes down rom sites and jails people for leaking pokemon, of all things. Not to mention Nintendo raising the price of games to 80 dollars, profiteering, and taking away people's access to their digitally purchased WII U, Wii and 3DS games. Nintendo are a blight on the industry.
>nerfed a few remaining anti ganker toolsIt's not like i'm planning to return into ER but still funny to see
>>746261607Bottom and middle left and bottom right were handsome dudes.Wonder who managed to brainwash them, normally it's ugly, bullied people that get broken.
>>746261595because rakshasa's and gravitational missile were horrendously broken.
>>746260959You don't need to pay for the update though.
>>746261851>>746261389How does it tie into real life?
>>746261874It was probably the decade of lore descriptions being the only lore. People were hinting at this for a long time. A bunch of this stuff is showing dlc content before it was released. It even has some Nightreign content.
>>746260498So, will I be able to get the new weapons and armor for free after the update, or will I have to buy the DLC?
>>746261995Can you read english?
>>746261989What is this rock depicting?
>>746262038Can you?
>>746260656bart get out, im piss
>>746260498no amount of patching will fix this turd
>>746262072That you're fucking stoned if you think these store bought assets contain some ebin secret
>>746260498Too little, too late....
>>746262083I can because I'm not asking retarded questions only illiterate retards would ask>The following elements will be added upon purchase of the "Tarnished Pack" DLC.What part of this sentence do you not understand?Do you need subtitles?
>>746260498>must purchase the Tarnished Pack seperatelywhat a load of HORSE SHIT
>>746260498>they killed the offhand rakshasaNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>746261986You play around with the talismans to get the rules for the ARG and what to notice in the game world as a rule. Once you've played around with the ARG talismans so imagery will reveal itself repeatedly then you build a lexicon of what the ARG is about then go looking for it. Most of it is about the GW and how it sees reality. It shows big events filtered thru how the GW saw them and all the terminology changes. Demi-gods for instance are centipedes. As you keep experimenting you'll fill out the lexicon.
>>746262128Damn, I'll smoke to that.
>>746261896yet they still manage to make real games that are really funmeanwhile western devs ruin the art form with fat tranny virtue signalling, and then get laid off as a reward kek all of the big 3 are anti-consumer now, but only one still cares about making games that are fun because they are games and not political vehicles or interactive therapy sessions. Notice all your criticisms are about the business practice, never the games themselves
>>746261553It's horse armor and 2 new starting classes that will end up being a free mod on PC.
What happened to anon who was suing From for hiding whole another game inside their games, with parallel worlds and so on?
>>746262249he was killed by miyazaki from knowing too much.
>>746262103Sorry, Ranjesh. Elden Ring is considered game of the generation. Your hissy fit won't change reality no matter how loud you cry.
>>746262207Sounds like bullshit desu
>>746262204>they also killed gravi missileNot sure what to think about this. It's good that I don't have to deal with this in ganks anymore but it was also such a good invader tool.
>>746262072Aerial shot of Rauh ruins where the golem with the greatbow is. >>746262249Probably someone that knew about this but was mentally ill and wanted to get it out there like this. Anon's storytiming is better overall he is telling us how he's getting his results.
>>746262196It also says>The equipment of each new starting class can also be obtained by purchasing it from merchants in the Lands Between or by finding it in the world.Would that mean that the game world differs from player to player? Would that segregate the online? Are we back to DS2 DLC days, when people would summon and drop DLC items in co-op areas for non-DLC players? What's the point, when the equipment can be duped, legally even, by starting the game as a new class and dropping the items in multiplayer?
>have to pay for DLC and extra content and horse armorLMAOOO remember when Fromtroons were defending them saying they don't do that shit?
>>746261685>changed the scaling on the carian sorcery sword (no clue what they mean by this)From the description of the buff, it's to make physical damage sorceries like Rock Sling not suck donkey ass when using it.
>>746262365So you are illiterate, and mentally ill too
>>746262315I know, that is part of the fun to this whole thing. Mess around with it and centipedes and flowers keep appearing though. Once you find the base set talismans you'll see it for what it is.
>>746262207>>746261989>>746261851>>746260996certified schizo
>>746262204>>746262328Whelp, and these are pretty much all the significant changes.>still no latency improvement for PC>still no ganker's tongue changeBeat Miyahacky.
>>746262380Consolefag problem. You're not playing games on a console like a philistine, right?
>>746262436I remember seeing you posting this hogwash in /erg/ and you got ignored there too, kek.
>>746262430No, that would be (You).
kek how many months for this shit? is this the quality of patches NS2 owners will have to expect?
>>746262447No it is just the ARG in Elden Ring it is weird like that.
>>746262436meds
>>746262436Looks like the triggered discord is trying to hound you again.
Haven't played since launch, did they finish the uncompleted quest in the game?
>>746260498>buff to greatshield guardboost>also weight reductionjust after I finished my autistic defensive shield/guard counter run that left me completly disappointed with greatshields. I got the banished knight shield and it had pretty much the same guardboost as greatshields for a fraction of the weight.
>>746262637Cut content was cut for a reason. Restorationfags are delusional.
>>746262627meds
>>746260498>5 bucks to Make Flails Great AgainBased or cringe?
>>746262652>guardboostWhat about deflection? Remind me, does ER still have that property? Like, I remember in DS1 Shiva's shield was favored because it had high tier deflection and would make lighter weapons bounce off of it.
>>746262627That is normal. They attack anyone showing interest in the game since they are dead inside from grooming ripping the soul out of them.
small patch
Where's the invasions in Caelid? I can't find it.Also do these new items appear in the world or ar mearchants if you don't buy the $5 DLC?
>>746261607I can't imagine having this shit stored on my computer. The obsession has gotta be a mental illness.
>>746262925The obsession is the troon stuff. The discord is here to try and groom people.
>>746260613FPBP thank you nintendo
>>746262786Yea it has it, and Greatshields have better deflection. But I didn't it think it was worth massive weight increase and equal at best guardboost.
so are discord trannies a real thing or is it a slur for retarded women posters
nightreign patch any day now
>>746263037it was a real thing for dragons dogma 1
>>746263037Yes we are real. We mostly post in famitsu threads and most Nintendo ones too :)
>didn't nerf rellana's cameoFuck yes. I love that thing but I was fully expecting them to ruin it.
>>746260613Thanks shitendo for breaking my modsI have some severe tendienigger fatigue holy shit just get cancer and die already you worthless faggots
>>746263037Nah it's real, it's basically shazamfags wanting to disrupt games they don't like
New greatsword moveset from tarnished edition, for anyone who still cares.
Still no Steam page?
>>746263243bro it's just 450$ can't you just buy it?
>>746263221The delay for the stance status is the balance already. >>746263260My guy, he uses light greatswords not greatswords.
>>746263290What does that have to do with ANYTHING you fucking pedophile?
>>746260613surprised there's so many tendies playing this game , hope you all enjoy it
>>746263260
>>746263260Please tell me the R2 is a thrusting attack like DS2.
>>746263260the first time i saw it i thought it's some new chinese mod, looks so dumb and out of place and not in a good way
>>746263342how the fuck does it look this good on a switch 2? what magic is this
>>746263037>realnah, it's just some schizos trying to ruin any discussion if their favourite game is being critiquedalso those schizos never post actual links/proof to those apparent discord troons, they always post the same pics 24/7 like >>746263250 for example
>>746263362Claymore R2
>>746263362It is
>>746263260kino
>>746263430>>746263175
>>746263340The same thing happened when dark souls 1 came out on the switch, the game was full of brand spanking new fatrolling, gargoyle helming, trying to black crystal invaders away tendies
>>746263260>>746263342Are there really no other new weapons? I've only seen this sword, the Idus knight sword, and the curved greatsword of the heavy knight. No new spells either.
>>746263409you should look at the runes at the bottom of the image
>>746263497so is it a bad thing? or a good thing?
>>746262436You mess with something long enough and you'll get centipedes and flowers everywhere
>>746263496dd1 never had any schizos, retard
>>746263260>>746263342>the ugly red cloth stays on you and it looks like you're carrying an umbrellafucking ruined
>>746263551this is on the switch 2 >>746263260
>>746263560Not really.
>>746263260It's retardedly broken and will be nerfed to the ground.
>>746263589The sword itself is ugly.I hate that they gave the incredibly valuable Claymore R2 to the two worst looking greatswords in the game (this sword and Midra's sword)
>>746263576there's plenty of images about it
>>746263559If you like shit-stomping people who have no idea what they're doing, or just helping them out, it's greatI plan to rebuild my level 6 double exploding flask jarPG allahu akbar twink asap to do exactly that
>Fromflaccid thinks I'm going to kill my suite of personalised overhaul mods with some shitendo pandering patch
>>746260498but my mods....
>>746263667are you going to kill newbies? or help them?
>>746263658prove it
Thank you Nintendo for the final update to the 2020's game of the decade so far
>>746263667I'm going to farm consumables and bully switch noobs. DSR reigniting burg bullying was so much fun.
>>746260613THANK YOU SO MUCH NINTENDO FINALLY
I cannot think of anything more pathetic than being part of a community that trolls 4chan, and I post on 4chan for fun
>>746263430>>746263576>>746263719hi pinto
>>746262478It literally asks you to pay for it on PC as well.
>>746260498>No 6 player limit area>PvP changes that could have made the PvP less miserable 2 years agoWhat the fuck is wrong with these retards
>>746263756I mean you literally have anti nintendo fanboys in this thread whining about the switch 2 release, ignoring that if it wasn't for Nintendo the game wouldn't have had any updates at all
>>746263714Both, alternating back and forthNo greater feeling than getting summoned to help the person you just murdered
God dammit I'm gonna have to change one of my characters to use the new shit
>>746263784He goes by tinpo now. Him and creasy got new names a few times after the old ones got burn noticed.
>>746263784you're not very bright aren't you, schizo/bot
i quit about 50% into the game before the big elevatoris it time to come backshould i restart
>>746263889keep dilating, pinto
>>746261989>it’s not just a boulder *sniffs*, it’s a rock. A ROCK!
>>746263945if you're going to buy the tarnished edition then yes I would restart
>>746264003the...what edition?
>>746262558Random background scenery isnt "arg"
>>746264025He's a troll, relax. Just laugh at "jokes".
>>746264000It shows Rauh in the base game, pretty interesting. Here is Raider's darkness outfit in base game Elden Ring. Raider's outfit is darkroot depths.
>>746263326>My guy, he uses light greatswords not greatswords.Pretty sure, this one uses Lucatiel's greatsword and is a GS, even as a model. The light greatsword is reserved for one of the new starter classes, the idus Knight.
>>746263619Hold on a minute you're telling me when you combine all the twisty horned trinkets it kind of almost resembles the nigga whose head has a bunch of twisty horned bullshit? Truly mind blowing stuff anon
everyone playing elden ring now that means time to invade noobs
>>746264169Whats the approved noob heckler build
Nintenbart…forgive me……
>>746260730they're not buffing fingerprint, they're just making it so that other greatshields actually have a purpose
>>746263260>>746263342Can you switch ash of war?
>>746264025I'm not actually explaining the arg well. Intentionally so, I want you guys to go do it yourself so you'll see it.
>>746263832Elden Ring taught them there’s no point in making high-quality, niche stuff that’ll also take a decade to get them acclaim, when they can just do open world slop like everyone else and see more success in one game launch than they did in 7.
>>746263976I'm Punto though, surname Fiat.
How much was nerfed in Elden Ring patches and updates?
>>746264169this is why invaders have a bad rep>haha we just love PvP!>and by PvP I mean raping noobs with the cheesiest builds imaginable
>>746264228>The WALL now has access to other wallsErection
>>746264195scythe with sword dance
>>746264235Shazam lost and got raped
>>746264085That’s a Tree Sentinel wearing a jellyfish.
>>746264195rot stuff since they have no defense against it early game.
>>746264234I really think you should focus your time and attention literally anywhere else that isn't connecting dots that don't exist.
>>746262216As opposed to fake games that are really fun? You're a retarded brainwashed cultist. Any game can be fun, regardless of where it comes from. Funny that you ignore all the political shit shoved into Nintendo games, especially those geared toward children. Gender neutral terms, gay relationships in animal crossing, race mixing and black protagonists in Fire Emblem (not to mention the censorship and woke translations done by unapologetical far left members of the Treehouse team). You're just another hypocritical faggot. As for criticism of the games? Nintendo hasn't had a shred of creativity since Mario Odyssey, with countless soulless cash grab 'remasters', increasingly worse versions of Mario Kart and bland first party games that not only don't innovate, but just don't feel good to play (yes I've played the majority of switch 2 only games). Maybe you just don't know any better, stuck on limited over priced Nitendo consoles for decades, or maybe you're just willfully ignorant fuck that's happy to miss out on other, better games.
>>746263851Well maybe not recent updates.
>>746264352Sometimes. >>746264378I'm just posting the ARG content.
>>746264263Don't summon outside of boss fogs, you don't get invaded. It's that easy!
>>746260498>Buy horse armor dlckek
>>746264235>there’s no point in making high-quality, niche stuffthey're about to release a 3d arena fighter with boardgame rules.
>>746263430>still crying about getting raped by Elden Ring four years later
>>746264195Dragon Halbert. Lightning + freeze = istant kill at early levels.
>>746264420>wow I'm so cool I rape noobs lmaopeople like you are the reason why the coop mod exists
>>746264432I like topping my flasks off before going thru the fogwall so I summon a few flasks before going in.
poof!
>>746264263someone has to teach them to fear bad red man.
>>746264471Yeah, AFTER releasing ER and Nightreign, which was typical battle-royale slop reusing almost all of their assets on hand.
>>746264420You broke the bot it thinks you are talking about pvp lol.
Elden mid...worst From game ever...
>>746261607Fuck it, I don't give a shit, would @ top left.
>>746264593It isn't a bot it is the horsefucker from the discord trying to spam reply to everything I post for reasons. We can speedrun this part of the thread so he moves on.
>>746260613cattle cucksoomer has to remind everyone to bow down to his overlords
So besides the horse armor, will these new items not appear in the world unless you buy the $5 pack? Or does the $5 only enable the new starting classes for convinience?Can these weapons be dropped by friends?
>>746264592>fromsoft should arbitrarily trash the asset library they've been building up for 15 years because jobless nerds think asset reuse is lazykeep crying lol
>>746264796patch says they drop or can get from merchants but knowing them they will be behind dlc so pay up goy
>>746264263Anyone who isn't a complete braindead moron already knows they can just cheese invaders with no hope of them fighting back in this dogshit game
>>746262207It's 2026 and motherfuckers are seriously trying to pull "you get mew if you use strength on the truck" bullshit???
>>746263826Just mod it in dude. There's fucking full on conversion mods on PC that have entirely new campaigns.
Idus Knight is such fucking mania.>ONE light greatsword in the entirety of the basegame>You can at least switch its skill so it's not just a perma-wing stance sword like Milady is>The other three light greatswords are in the DLC>One is Milady, and also the only other one whose skill you can change>The other ones are a paired blades that do split damage because they require investment in both Int and Faith>And the last one comes at the very end of the DLC
>>746264896No, it is just the ARG in Elden Ring.
>>746262380It's free.
reminder the jannies are trannies
>>746264401No, as opposed to fake games which are not fun with the only purpose of being a vehicle of ideology.None of what you mentioned in FE made the game not fun. See that's the thing with Nintendo, they might fall for the pressure by loonies who want to chop their dicks off, but they don't change the game itself. Again, it's not my fault that the tranny brigade is doing everything in their power to ruin games. I guess lopping your cock off might indicate mental instability. I have a PC and a PS5, I'm well aware of what else is out there and therefore stand by my original opinion.
>>746260498>Horse Armors
>>746265086We still don't know what this entails yet. There's a possibility some SotE weapons are sold by merchants now and at the very least I would expect the Idus Knight's gear to be obtainable this way so it's accessible if you didn't start as one.
>>746264234>tree into bonesyeah that's kinda the whole TWLID's shtick since godwyn became a vegetable rotting in the erdtree roots. what's new about that? next you'll figure out the millenia old allegory of growing plants from the buried dead?
>>746264420congrats on breaking the bot but that's just clothing made up from animal bones.
>>746262436>rotate object fractally>it turns into a centipede
Is this one schizo going to be in all the threads now
>>746264234what do the pics have to do with the text?
>>746265403The jellyfish shield shows the normal world thru the top and the spirit world thru the bottom. When you move the camera around you can see the boundary point. It is showing you the progression over time so you don't have to simply assume what happens, it actually explains how a spirit shelter is formed. For Godwyn's specifically there is a repeated theme of a spider eating at the roots of the spirit shelter, his death really has infected all the trees. Pic rel is the crucible helms under the UV light in the prayer room in Haligtree.
>>746265086switchbabies need the easy mode tbf
Smithscript/Spear of the Impaler throwing attacks hit noticeably harder now but they're still niche.Golem Fist has quite a bit more range but it's pointless because the real power of the charged R2 is point blank when both hitboxes hit so ehPerfume bottles are still a meme, having more power is nice but their issue is that they're slow as fuck and with pitiful rangeGravitational Missile still skips to the explosion when it's shot on the ground/walls but the explosion is delayed, Flame of the Fell God rules that joint nowMeteorite/Meteorite of Astel's casting is FAST now holy fuck!Carian Retaliation is marginally stronger now but nothing specialFounding Rain of Stars suffers from the same problem as Rain of Fire, good on big targets and that's about itDivine Bird Feathers is much better but still very much a meme.O Flame's hitbox is fuckhuge nowRain of Fire's damage is even higher now but still kinda useless against anything that isn't Tree Sentinel size and above
>>746265735thats just the internal organs of a jellyfish, you're making connections out of nowhereEither way, how is this an ARG?
>>746265707You know those really out there schizos that were the funny conspiracy theorists everyone at laughed at and they'd make X-Files episodes of?He's that but with videogames. He's mentally ill.
>>746265856This is in all versions of the game retard
>>746265735yeah the armors also double as artwork that depicts the world. that shows how godly the artists and blacksmiths were in the lands between before marita shat all over them. that's not an alternate reality game, that's just how gothic settings go, like ER. >crucible helms under the UV light in the prayer room in Haligtree.gimme what you're smoking right now
>>746265671Fromshart games attract embarrassing schizos all the time, the retard who tried to sue them is still around pretending he's normal
Played ER on PS5 and thinking of buying it again on PC now that Sony is destroying their console business.How heavy is it in terms of performance? I can run Sekiro everything maxed at 4K resolution and get locked 60fps, but that isn't an open world game.
>>746263260They add shit like this but they still won't merge back the 2 stamp skills into one.
>>746266164depending on your specs, the dlc has performance issues even on high end hardware
>shazamtroons are so broken they're trying to pretend a patch is actually paid dlc
>>746265915It is an arg because you have to learn about the terminology the bird uses by playing with some talismans yourself. You learn that people are seen as worms to the GW bird after putting the talismans together and seeing repeated imagery of a bird scooping up worms. You learn that demi-gods are centipedes by repeated instances of centipedes showing up. You learn that dung beetles are warriors progressing toward godhood, you learn that godwyn is a spider in the system, you learn that the bird comprises all things (the little legs on the spiral of godwyn are all the bird heads in gold). You learn that the rot god is the twin-bird aspect gone berserk at the death of it's spirit half. You'll spend hours not playing the actual game. The new game you are playing isn't in the game.Pic rel is all the madness spells, they all have birds losing their shit on them. The ARG will explain why.
>>746266341me when i'm schizothis doesn't count as an arg btw it's just theorizing lore and pulling shit from nowhere
>>746266303I7 13700k + 9070xt + 32gb DDR5I'm assuming I could get locked 60fps at 4K throughout the game and dlc at medium settings?
This schizo reminds me of some new age cult members. They're also mesmerized by repeating patterns and rainbow lights.
>>746266542>intel cpu and amd gpuwhy did you go for the worst possible choices?
>>746266456You have to spend time on the talismans to get the terminology though. The Godwyn spiral was done in mspaint layer by layer and you see the evolution of the bird heads as you go. It is a process that you can't get unless you actually do the work, some of what you see gets covered up later so it is only shown during the process. Once you've done that you can start playing and doing what I'm doing.
>>746266542you should be fine on max settings unless your CPU dies of corrosion
>>746266164>>746266542yes, maybe even on highbut that might not be reachable if you play the game normally (online with easy anticheat enabled), disabling it gives a performance boost
>>746266587I wouldn't be surprised to know if it's a bot since one always seems to be in FROMSoft related threads shitting it up with something.
>>746266542>humblebragging
Guys if you spin things in a circle it turns into a circle.Circles are circles too.If you draw a circle you end up with a circle.
>>746266765The discord has been trying to say I'm a bot for weeks. Something about this triggers them really bad.
>>746266587Even if it's complete nonsense you need to admire the dedication to make all the images and shit.
>>746266765Seems like an unnecessarily convoluted way to shit up a FromSoft game thread, when the usual simple baits and shitposting would work just fine. Gotta be a genuine schizo. Seen quite a few of those in all these years I've been on 4chan.
>>746266853Just talking about something you guys aren't ready for yet
>>746266642this is not an arg my guy it's just imagery
>>746266637My 3060ti died last january, during the gpu price hike panic and I had to buy a new GPU quick so I got a 9070xt. Great GPU so far considering the price.>>746266704Alright thanks I'll keep that in mind.>>746266776Not really. My cpu is showing its age and it wasn't top tier when I bought it. Plus my RAM is kinda slow.
By the way, the term ARG inherently means that it utilizes resources OUTSIDE of the game, like fake websites, physical secret messages hidden in specified real world locations, etc.Even if there were any patterns hidden in-game in the textures or models, then it should be classified as "easter eggs" at best.
>>746266993I'm sorry this is upsetting you again.
>>746266897>something you guys aren't ready for yetOhhh ER lore, how terrifying. I can feel my mind splintering and spreading across space as it tries to assimilate this forbidden knowledge.
>>746264989>dude it's free>it's not>u-ummmm JUST MOD IT THENlmao Fromtrannies are the most cucked fanbase in all of gaming>>746262478>>746265130>"The following elements will be added upon purchase of the "Tarnished Pack" DLC."
>>746266542I played it on an RTX 3080 + i7 10700k a 4k/60 with a few drops here and there. That's 2020 hardware. You'll easily do 4k/60 without drops unless you enable Goy Tracing, which looks like ass in Elden Ring.
>>746267023>By the way, the term ARG inherently means that it utilizes resources OUTSIDE of the gameAnon said he was doing the talisman thing in mspaint.
>this entire thread
>>746267080>Ohhh ER lore, how terrifying.It seems to upset someone for some reason.>>746267130I was using paint.
>>746267096There's no DLC on PC. The patch dropped today for free. Not that it matters. Elden Ring Reforged ports almost all the content from Nightreign to ER and has way more content than this shitty update, including like 80 new weapons.
>>746261685>nerfed rugalea's roarYou best be bullshitting. The fucking incant was practically useless on launch before they buffed it.
>>746265987this might come as a surprise but this game has sold over 30 million copies in the years it wasn't on switch. this is for switchbabies pure and simple.
>>746262925The calling card of these exact sorts of people is to project accusations of obsession when evidence is posted.Will you ever learn to blend in?
>>746267130That still doesn't make it an ARG. He's just drawing conclusions from combining shit in mspaint. Anyone can do that with anything in the game, this isn't something they intended people to do beyond maybe imagining it at most.
what the fuck am I reading
>>746260498>Shadow of the Erdtree still not on saleI will NOT pay $40 for a DLC
>>746266341>Common abstraction is now considered elite knowledge Humanity is doomed
>>746267273Reforged has ass backwards changes to mechanics that make the game a chore to play.
>>746267329If you say so.
>>746267237for years elden ring threads have been ruined by people without self awareness schizo rambling about the game and then bring up some sort of strawman discord server when called out, you have to wonder if it's an elaborate troll or genuine mental illness, probably both.
>>746260613be sure to learn english properly this year, pablo.
>>746267404You just need to learn how to play the game again with Reforged. You can aggressively hug bosses with the deflection mechanic. It's the opposite of "rollslop" due to the stamina management mechanic.
>>746267437People just hate the discord after that guy got doxed trying to mess with threads.
>>746267273>There's no DLC on PC.You nigger it literally says in PC patch notes that you get the content UPON PURCHASE.
>>746265294>purchased from merchantsPlease god let that apply to bellbearings pre update. I went on a merchant hunting spree for everyone but kale.
At least this schizo is entertaining. It's like having a glimpse into the inner workings of a clinically insane mind through screenshots of rocks in Elden Ring.
>>746267569I guess this is the successor to Plague rambling about rubble for an entire hour
>I-it's FREE ON PCWhy are Fromdrones such little pathetic lying trannies? They lie about no cut content, they lie about lore, they lie about the game being good even lmao.
What happened to the hidden second half of a game schizo anyways?
>>746267569Why does this trigger you so much though?
>>746267451I kind of mean outside the gameplay itself(aside from magic feeling like shit because of the ass recharging spells you have to spam). Torrent not being immune to status effects, not being able to use torrent in a lot of giant areas to force you to fight shit or take even longer to go around them, the shitty items hidden in the environment you have to find to make up for stats you can't get from levelling anymore because of the level cap, the crappy tight platforming placed all over the place. I just found it way more exhausting to play than normal Elden Ring.
>>746267523>guy that doesn't play on pc has no idea how pc gaming worksnta but you can unlock all dlc on steam for free with a program that unlocks it. that's ignoring that you can also play a cracked version or mod those files without paying if you don't want to risk your steam account(but i've never heard of a single person being banned for using cream).
>>746267272No one's upset at most they're confused because your mind is conjuring imagery that is not present in those images. That tree is not shaped like the Uld clay people, and there are no birds here. You should take a break, and go do something else.
>>746267631Anon found something genuinely amazing and is sharing it with us it is going to upset shitters that try to ruin everything. You should have seen the bloodborne stuff he posted yesterday on /vg/ it was cool.
>>746267719>You should have seen the bloodborne stuff he posted yesterday on /vg/ it was cool.I saw it it had my noggin joggin. I feel like these threads are 90% /erg/.
>>746267690>DUDE JUST HACK IT JUST MOD IT LOLFrom sissy trannies with their little vibrating buttplugs really just make excuses, huh.
>>746267719Makes sense, rock anon butchered the annoying repost bot in this thread
>>746267637None of that bothers me. The platforming adds some incentive to explore, and I've never leveled past 150 in ER. Even 200 seems like too much. The crafting is my main complaint. It adds a billion redundant crafting steps to everything, kinda like those Witcher 3 mods that "enhance" the alchemy system.
>>746267419What conclusions are we supposed to draw from your examples? Yes the imagery in Elden Ring is very intricate and fascinating but what is the ARG supposed to be?
>>746267803>i can't do it on console so it doesn't countthe sourest of all grapes.
>>746267793Can I sees it?
>>746260498Ok but where exactly are the new itemsGIVE ME THE PRECISE LOCATIONS DAMNIT
>>746267847Yeah I forgot about the crafting. Honestly it's been a while since I tried reforged so I'm sure it's changed a lot, maybe I'll give it another try once they update it for the new DLC, but I got really annoyed around Leyendell and stopped playing.
>Gravitational Missile nerfedMore Albinauric racism, even trapping Gaius in the Realm of Shadow wasn't enough for them.
>>746267917Already stated - it is from the POV of the GW phoenix. God has a special arrangement with the mortals on earth and loves them and covets them like they covet it's fire. But that arrangement drives the godbird insane because everything is made up of the godbird so it should work toward the same greater will but it doesn't. Component parts fight against the whole and this drives the whole into a madness. Walk around with the erdtree greatshield in the prayer room it shows you what happened when Marika became god you'll get why the bird is so pissed.>>746267938I have it saved as 4 images.
>>746268185
>>746263342The jump looks too fast and the spin looks too slow. The jump should probably be slower or cover less distance, and I think the visual woosh needs to be toned down a bit. It should look more like a sidestep version of Dynast's Finesse.
lol this was a bug? How did they not notice it for 4 years?
This guy does it betterhttps://youtu.be/YRSe7FSAsI4?is=qoae8IJ_2nQIehVg
>>746268359It is like the ents destroying isengard.
>>746268405No one played Elden Ring with mouse and keyboard.
>>746268448They are surrounding the divine beast temple and there is a woman in black and a woman in white riding mounts with them.
>>746268405Because you're mentally fucking challenged if you play these games without a pad.
>>746268520i did. It's great
>>746262128yeah its funny as fuck i remember watching tarnished archeologist talk about how some people are so schizophrenically caught up in the fake lore of these games that they analysed some pillar texture for a long time when it turned out to just be some free generic texture of adam and eve or some other depiction of a biblical story
>>746268185>>746268359>>746268448>>746268536You got the duofags talking to each other to cope now.
>>746268405There are some major bugs they still haven't fixed, like most holy damage buffs not working at all. There are also errors like a statue just before the Cleansing Chamber Anteroom Grace being lower into its pedestal than the other statues on that terrace of Enir-Ilim.
>>746268185>>746268359>>746268448>>746268536What does this have to do with Bloodborne?
So what’s new on the dlc? I know about 2 new starting classes but in elden ring it’s whatever, some horse armour(lmao), two new sets of armour, I know one looks like a bloodborne duskbloods esque matador looking thing but the other one haven’t seen yet, if you are ever so kind to show me that armour set and where you can geth both of the new armours I would be rather pleased, and at the end a couple new invasions as I’ve read through a quick glance at the thread, for 5 bucks they should at least have added a new boss
>>746263342>blindspot, LGS edition I just want grounded weapon arts goddamnit. Give it a riposte or something, anything but more of this fucking anime shit.
>>746268739Anon raised his insight enough to see the alien birds attacking belarut.
From and Bamco don't have normal feedback forms for bugs and I don't play on Steam, so if Steam has one, I can't access it. How do you guys try to contact them, or what have you heard that works? I've noted some annoying bugs that I think might get fixed now if patches are happening again.
>>746268741Anime game series.Realismfags lost.
>>746268669>most holy damage buffs not working at allI know Sacred Blade works and that's good enough for me. There's also the fire buffs although those are marginally better on STR builds (basically meaningless difference).
>>746260498>mfw the tarnished pack
>>746268549thishad a friend who got into DaS for the first time and he insisted on using KB+M despite my repeated insistence otherwise.We got something like 6 hours in before he finally apologized to me and pulled out the controller.
>>746262207>>746262436>>746263619
>>746268801>shitposters pretend not to see what anon is posting because there is no stat telling them it is okay to see itKind of funny when you realize how much they are coping about images we can all see.
>>746268920What is vague about that? You can see what he did because it is in stages.
>>746264263It's just a video game, you little bitch.
heavy class starts with 77 poise
>>746260613Thanks for the paid horse armor, Bethe...Nintendo.
>>746268921Can you explain what I’m supposed to see? The area sort of looks like the spot where you enter Forbidden Woods? Maybe the area where you meet Alfred? Are the trees supposed to be similar to the petrified people in Yahargul? I have no idea what I’m supposed to see in these images that make me think of Bloodborne.
>>746268740Oh and some new weapons, do you guys know what they are?
>>746269079You'll simply pretend to be ignorant it doesn't matter.
>>746268921samefagging won't make people believe anyone else actually believes your schizo ramblings
>>746261903red men really are the most oppressed It's crazy how against us the odds are now
what the fuck is diddy blud schizo talking about in this thread? all these screenshots has nothing in them except normal generic fromsoft environments. can someone explain?
>>746268842Aura buffs, not weapon buffs. Most people have to use the Sword of Light's ability because it's one of the only holy body buffs in the game. There's also a different issue where the normal Holyproof Dried Liver gives a 35% holy resistance boost by mistake while the DLC version that's suppose to be stronger, the Holyproof Pickled Liver, gives a lower boost.I've complied a list of things in a note pad, I might as well start dumping them in this thread.
>>746269338So you won’t explain it to me?
>>746262879>Also do these new items appear in the world or ar mearchants if you don't buy the $5 DLC?Not until someone mods them in
>>746269338The birds look pissed at what they are seeing.
>>746269434Just ignore him.
>>746269593Nothing bad will happen don't worry.
Hang on now, where are the tendie cultists who swore this thing would run at a rock-solid 60fps? I wanna talk to you!
>>746264195Arc / faith with cool dragon spells
>powerful enemies in Shadow of the Erdtree now drop different powerful itemsI infer this to imply that some dlc weapons have been moved into base game for earlier access.And that these new "powerful items" will be somber smithing stones or something bland.Taking one weapon from each new weapon type in the dlc and putting it in Limgrave or Calid early seems like an easy slam dunk.But I also expect it to be equally retarded like taking away an enemy's unique weapon that they wield and putting it on some random merchant and now that enemy wont drop their weapon.
>>746261034>mods>Elden RingISHYGDDT
>>746269864>I infer this to imply that some dlc weapons have been moved into base game for earlier access.There are no shadow of the erdtree enemies in the base game.
>>746261137>Nintendo>Fun and innocent>Entire business model is designed around making children addicted to extremely mediocre games
>>746263260When I first played Dark Souls 1 I wanted to make a Matador theme build, now I finally will.
>>746269951Maybe read the entire post next time, you fucking moron.I clearly said that the dlc enemies that drop unique weapons could have their weapons removed and put on vendors instead, removing the unique weapon drop from the enemy.The fact that you need to shitpost after reading a single sentence makes you look like an absolute cocksmoker.
>>746269864I hope it means powerful enemies can drop rune arcs, because the DLC didn't have a lot of those.
>>746269864It might be more like the Smithing Stone qualities will be higher, as oppose to finding early-grade ones at the start of the DLC. They were probably intended to help boost up new weapons right away for players who didn't have the Bell Bearings (or were somehow rune broke), but maybe they found in practice that they went overboard.
Here's your final dlc armor lmao
Why are schizos always operating under some kind of oppression narrative? They latch onto an idea and then stubbornly refuse to move on from it to the point where their instincts misfire and they convince themselves that they're under attack.
>>746262207i can SMELL you, Nora Kisaragi
>>746267368SOTE is almost as big as a whole souls game by itself.Base ER being the size of DS3+BB combined in terms of bosses, dungeons, weapon, armor.
>>746270043Been wanting to do it since I realized a bunch of fights in ER are already matador fights.>>746270053I read the whole post bud. There are no shadow of the erdtree enemies in the base game so those enemies dropping different powerful items has no bearing on the base game still. Its like saying they nerfed promise consort radahn so the fight in caelid should be easier. Promised Consort Radahn isn't in Caelid, he's in the dlc.
WHERE THE FUCK ARE EVERDARK HEOLSTR AND DREGLORD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>746270087It comes from a weird doxing incident where one of them got doxed a few times.
>>746269953Is this a joke? The world would be better if kids played Nintendo games instead of Fortnite and Roblox. Nintendo offers worthwhile experiences that aren't just an infinite game with constant suggestions for them to put in their mum's credit card
>>746270071Looking good.
>>746270071There's like 5 good and viable armors in this game, why is everything so fucking ugly and pointless
>>746270381>viable armorsholy larp
>>746260613fuck you nintendo bitch
>still no deathbed smalls headgear
>>746270381for PvE many armors are viable, you can go from taking full damage to taking 40% damage from a boss with the right resistances and talismans equiped.
>>746270435>OMG LE NAKED GUY IN PVP IS LE TOTALLY BROKENSit down, Jimmy>>746270519And the vast majority look like shit
>>746270381Facilitates the ARG most of the time, all the outfits have hidden imagery on them. I'm not joking.
>>746270578"viable" and "armor" should never appear next to each other when talking about a souls game
>>746270608too bad flail is like top 3 worst weapon category in this game
>>746269079a dude off his meds
>>746260498Come the fuck on, man
>>746270247Why keep baiting people with their demeanor, then? I guess this is how some people get so buckbroken that they never want to leave 4chan.
>>746269283>>746270071>The esteemed Broken MaskNew lore just dropped. Sounds like a meme mod character.
Reminder Elden ring tarded edition has worse performance than the steam deck
>>746270627Makes sense actually.
>>746262249Hes ITT retard
>>746270627I'm going to need you to define ARG because I don't think it means what you think it means
>>746270724Apparently the WA is doing law of regression so just hardswap it when needed
>>746270578ER fashion is unparalleled, back to Dark and Brown Souls with you
>>746270720stop the larp, little kid, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
>>746270802literally the opposite is true
>update adds nothing>now all my mods are broken and the game won't launchfromsoft pulled a bethesda
>>746270305Nintendo is just as bad as those.
>>746270769I think that's the most narrowly targeted I've ever seen a fromsoft patch, crazy
>>746270930I know more than you that's for sure. Nice "no u". This is the part where I copy you and call you a kid.
>>746270935I can squeeze 45fps on steam deck. This thing noodles around 30https://youtu.be/6oetArwJhZc?si=4sbaqjsmGO4U7bci
>>746270787Probably just maladjusted types in general that would lash out at anything regardless of topic. The thing that seems to set them off is someone showing interest in a thing, it reminds them of their hollow emptiness so they lash out at someone showing passion. >>746270835Augmented Reality Game. Like when you take the content of a youtube ARG and put it into a cipher to see what the letters or number strings on screen were. I'm doing that but with mspaint and items. Then I go back into the game and tour around with the new info and see things that others walked by.
>>746271003From hates when weapons are good outside of being able to L2 to win
>>746260613Thank you, Xbox!
>>746270986Not even remotely true
>>746271015>t. salty havelmom rape victim
The ARG guy reminds me the GTAV conspiracy guy. I don't remember the details but it was the same kind of shit, zooming in on textures with abstract patterns and claiming to be aware of some grand secret while acting coy about it on /v/. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same guy. It's insane how often you come across people with severe mental illness on this site nowadays.
>>746265915It isn'tthis is just another Nora Kisaragi bit where he schizoposts about things that don't exist
>>746271041>I can squeeze 45fps on steam decklol
>>746261389>>746260996I don't get it
>>746260498What a nothingburger. I'm not spending $5 for a couple new weapons and some fucking horse armor.
>>746271120Yeah you keep telling us every 10 minutes lol
>>746270835It's a weird usage but I don't see the problem so long as you understand his meaning. The real question is whether or not he and others like him are just falling for schizo bait or if From actually has any kind of robust internal lore document that acts as a source of truth to uncover. Otherwise you're just falling for jangling keys.
>>746271109>t. giant dad reddit tranny
Let's go boys.
>>746271120nowadays the schizos aren't as funny as the ones from decades ago, e.g the tiles anon
>>746271120I forgot entirely about that shitter.How time flies, eh?
>>746271041The steam deck's display has half as many pixels as the Switch 2, lol.
>>7462711854 new weapons, 4 new armors.
>>746271120Covid tripled the schizos in this website, I feel like everybody is meaner and much more insaneAlso tons of /vg/ generals became completely unusable, they all got that one guy dedicated to shitting up any form of discussion
>>746266853it's so astoundingly retarded that it compels you to look in awe of itit's pretty high effort bait
>>746271306Were talking about performance chuddy>>746271151On average that's 15 more than switch 2
none of these things change the game at all. armor is meaningless unless it has some effect like magic dmg or whatever. you arent wearing any of this trash nor using it. starting classes are pointless outside some very minor min max shit. theres virtually no difference if you have 2 more str at lvl 70+. a random hello kitty skin mod has more value than this.
>>746263260I care. That's a cool ass moveset.
>>746271193i haven't posted in at least a few weeks. great example of my point right here
>>746271183Its just an arg. If you walk your helmet into that arrow the birds perch on it, if you keep walking the point into the little black notches you see a vignette of you travelling thru the elden ring and meeting godwyn as the god of death on the other side. For the tombstone if you drop rainbow shards at the base you see an image show up of a soul as a dove moving thru the elden ring and arriving at a spirit shelter. You can go test it yourself, the first one is placidusax's arena and the second one is right when you warp to chapel of anticiption from the 4 belfries.
>>746267630he's in this thread, but as another personality.
>>746263851how do you respond to this without getting mad?
>>746271193Your defensiveness isn't disproving it.
>>746263260This looks cool as fuck, I'm getting this dumb horse armor just so I can play a matador.
>Elden Ring still getting contentARMORED CORE 6 BTFO, FUCK THAT GAMEAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK YOU ZOOMERS
>>746263260>Greatsword instead of thrusting swordFucking hacks.
>>746271379Shazam lost.Sharty lost.
>>746271074What did you say? You're gargling too much Nintendo semen. Can't hear you.
>>746271414Well that is cool af
>>746271326covid just accelerated the normification of the internetit was always going to be like this, normies ruin everything eventuallyif you think i'm being reductive, go read youtube comments which better represent the average person and tell me they sound saneall they know is gossiping and bullying because its all they've ever needed. they'd sooner try to kill you than help you learn something new.
>>746271326the thing that blows my mind is that every single hobby/franchise/thread/whatever has that one schizo who is hellbent on purposely making discussion miserable and the threads low quality>>746271275i don't remember tiles anon, what was that?>>746271287that guy had me going for a minute to be honest lol. but once they start bringing up the secret underbelly of society that's trying to cover up the secret you just know it's someone who needs help
>>746271565You fags have the light greatsword on the new class.
>>746271604weak bait sis
>>746271326>they all got that one guy dedicated to shitting up any form of discussionIt feels like any and all generals attract those types of people, even on other boards like /a/. Just completely unpleasant and obnoxious people.
Sorcerybros we FUARKING won
>>746271634I'm saying that it makes no sense to go full in on Matador aesthetics and not use an Estoc when that's literally what Matadors use.
>>746271120The difference is that there actually WAS something to the esoteric GTAV shit in some form, because there are not just obvious signs of it, but people are still finding that stuff years later because they just happen to chance upon the exact camera angle and conditions to see it.No such thing with Elden Ring.
>>746271690we have been winning since demon souls, laughing at the difficulty meme since we learned how to abuse geometrynothing will ever top invading with pursuers in DS1 archives tho
>>746271565It's the sword from dark souls 2 that the character who uses that armor also uses. A greatsword with a cool moveset is way more interesting than another thrusting sword as well
>>746263260Is that the Hollowslayer/Lucatiel's greatsword?It even does the forward point pose after 2 handed attacks.
>>746260764Imagine taking a dump here. So peaceful.
>>746271758Same with the one in ER. You can find Miquella's spirit opening the door to the spirit world in Haligtree by lining the shadow of the gate on the wall up with the verdigris door knocker to make an eyeball. Anon already posted a picture of it in the beginning of the thread>>746260764You literally sit and wait for some of this to show itself.
>>746262328It was a great antiganking tool. Now you can only use it for spacing I suppose4
>>746271758you know, now that i think of it, wasn't actually the exact same shit with GTAV? weren't they claiming there is a secret game within the game in GTAV? this has to be the same guy.
Can we finally admit that Shadow of the Erdtree kinda sucked?
>>746271934You do the same waiting thing at a few points in the game. The devs even hint at it by having people sitting down looking in that direction or have the stargazing people and chairs close by.If you sit at the stairs before the erdtree the seal burning is a bird dying, the fire changes the type of bird it is every 3 seconds or so. Same thing happens at the foot of the scadutree.
>>746271907The thrusting swords are easily the most neglected weapon type in ER, it would've been cool to see them get an actually unique one.
>storm wall parry frames increased and no longer costs FPThis is huge, now I can parry without looking like a faggy mage with the Carian Retaliation.
>>746272030Relatively speaking, sure, it was like a 7/10 DLC for a 9/10 game from a company known for 9/10 DLCs.
>>746272030>finally admityou faggots have been shitting on the DLC since day 1
>he's still goingImpressive.
no officer I wasn't drunk driving, this bottle is part of the ARG and represents my prolapsed anus
>>746262925>hes think saving a jpeg on a computer is mental illness>doesnt mention anything about the porn addicted perverted closet gay men dressing in women's clothesYou just outted yourself tranny. Get any goon sessions in today yet or is it too early. How's that autogynephilia hitting this morning lad
>>746272079Fun fact: after the Erdtree is burned a small statue appears above the entrance gazing inside.
>>746261685>>nerfed gravitational missile by not having it instantly explode anymoregoddamnit, i love that spell
>>746272331sir, a second anon with severe mental illness has hit the thread
>>746260996Schizophrenic niggers really look at a UV mapping error and think it's the Voynich manuscript.
>>746272030It was better than Dark Souls 1 and Dark Souls 3' dlcs, but worse than 2 and BBs.I played the dlc for 1 kind of late and found myself very underwhelmed
>>746268549>>746268520>>746268890KBM is easy mode though. I'd say it's definitely worth learning solely because of mouse free camera, and being able to dodge while looking around.
>>746262328>>746271964If you have access to gravi missile you have access to waves of darkness so it's not like you ever really needed it as an invader. Also, after testing the new gravi missile, it might unironically be better than the instant explosion. It now explodes at the first pull effect which is still pretty quick but it opens up to potential combos and can cover you better.So, the new gravi missile might actually be better in the hands of someone skilled and it's only a nerf to gank squads spamming it.
>>746272735>being able to dodge while looking aroundthis was solved on pads long ago. I just can't play third person games on KBM. It feels wrong to me. More power to you if you prefer playing like that
