Why has japanese media been stuck on this artstyle for the past 30 years?
It's timeless.
>>746264054economic crisis one after another
>>746264054Because i want to kiss Estelle deeply?
>>746264054I know right? They need to get with the times and be like America.
>>746265904/thread
>>746264054why has anon been stuck on this site for the past 20+ years?
>>746264054weebs unironically consume this modern 3d anime garbage and like it
>>746264054Falcom should go back to their 90s styles.
>>746267134I started using 4chan in 2025I cant imagine being a diddy ahh unc whos used this website for 2 decaded now ROFLMAO
>>746264054If it's not broke, don't fix it.
>>746265904this is why discussion can't be held in this placethe moment someone has a valid complaint, some retard will go "YEAH BUT THIS OTHER VALID COMPLAINT EXISTS TOO" as if that makes any difference
>>746270021Shut up, South American child.
>>746270021Whataboutism isn't exactly new.
>>746264054because you havent killed yourself yet
>>746270152act out of line again and i'll put my monkey friends to steal your balls
>>746270217Every nu-Falcom game looks exactly the same.
>>746270021There's nothing "valid" about your complaint. You don't like an artstyle, other people do.
>>746264054No future as a country.Young people know that so hey just gamble their wages on gacha.Trails series is tanking with each new game so they resorted to milking nostalgiafags.
>>746264054it looks cool/cute
>>74626405430 years? how old are you?
>>746265904this is the result of living in a merit based society. those are face scans of actual actors who are good at acting.
>>746265904Yeah we've already done the "why has the west been stuck on this artstyle for the last 15 years" thread 1000 times by this point anon.
>>746270267Nah. As someone who played every single Falcom game, the graphics, animations and artistic cohesion of Sky 1st remake is a MASSIVE upgrade compared to their games that came before.
>>746270284>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT DISLIKE MY ECCHI GOONSHIT ARTSTYLE THAT'S NOT VALID XISTER AAAAAIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
>>746270423I'd rather be stuck on an appealing artstyle for 15 years than whatever that is
>>746265310>economic crisis one after anotherAt a certain point it stops being crises and is just incompetence.
>>746264054it looks a darn sight better than "realistic" western slop graphics
Explain what's wrong with it
>>746271145There is nothing wrong with the art, but them changing Estelle from being a pedo hating chud was pretty gay.
>>746264054is this vidya butts?
>>746264054I'll ask here as the other thread looks pretty much dead:I have OG Trails 1 in my backlog for quite some time as it was dirty cheap a few years back. I played until the point where they tell Joshua to crossdress, or something like that.Should I keep playing OG (new file, because I remember little to nothing) or bite and buy the remake? It really looks good.
>>746275061Remake but get the Evo voice mod for it
>>746272210qrd?
>>746264054I wish Estelle were real so I could sniff her butt after a busy day of bracer work and monster extermination
>>746264054trails of subhumans
Because every time someone tries to do something else no one fucking buys it.
>>746275061Do you like realtime combat or would you rather keep all of it turnbased? How upset are you about less accurate but fun translations? Do you want to play the sequels in this century?
>>746264054I ask myself the same thing everytime I see anime gacha slop garbage for mobile made by chinkoids
>>746264054Nothing wrong with it. >>746270021>valid complaintCitation needed.
>>746265904woketards have wasted so many of everyone's years producing this dogshit man. Can you imagine where we'd be right now if woke never happened?
>>746275762He's a schizo who thinks the original 4kids-tier localization is canon.
The anime art style is more than just a look, it's quite a problem in Japan and is really harming the animation industry. It really kills creativity. You should think of an idea a story, and then tell it in a style that fits it.But instead what they do is decide to make "an anime" and then they just make another anime. It's all a big blob, and it keeps it from reaching that timeless masterpiece status, Japan has never produced a single timeless masterpiece people will care about in the future, in terms of animation.But even in Anime style games that might be the case. Of course thankfully Japan does produce non-anime style games. But Anime is really good at being middle quality, it serves its purpose and that's in.
>>746279442>Japan has never produced a single timeless masterpiece people will care about in the futureIs that why Miyazaki movies replay in American theaters every single year?
>>746279074>Do you like realtime combat or would you rather keep all of it turnbased?I prefer turnbased>How upset are you about less accurate but fun translations? As long as it's not pozzed, it's alright>Do you want to play the sequels in this century?I started this because I wanted to play haha's games.
>>746264054problem with a lot of anime games (and especially the later trails games) is you have these hyper stylized anime models but then the actual environments will just look like a cobbled mess of random store assets that all clash and look like shit
>>746264054Why has the West been stuck on this art style for the past 2500 years?
>>746264054If it ain't broken...
>>746279745Honestly just stick with what you have then. Seems like it'd be a better fit anyways.
>>746279442and yet anime has plenty distinct styles depending on the mangaka, Dragon Ball looks nothing like Sailor Moon or Ghost in the shell
this is why i couldnt get into animu it mostly looks the same. Of course there are some unique ones but those are exceptions to the rule
>>746279629Even Ghibli, hasn't achieved masterpiece status. And they're the ones who have tried the hardest.People really struggle with this fact for some reason, it's just what it is. NO ONE is going to care about any anime you can name in the future, already they don't. Generic Ghibli film #27 with a little girl is something people care about, has come impact? No.Japan cannot produce a Lion King, a Looney Tunes, a Simpsons. I was talking about this already on /co/ so I don't care about talking about it again.when it comes to top quality english animation, yeah it completely destroys japanese animation. Japanese animation is largely focused on a very middle ground generic soft core porn attraction.In terms of video games, it's not as bad but you should certainly think of what style fits your game, rather than taking a style and trying to put a game to it.
>>746280010>I was talking about this already on /co/ so I don't care about talking about it again.>My echo chamber validated me so now my opinion is factlmao
>>746279873if only
>>746269882> calls people unc> says "ROFLMAO"
746280010>Even Ghibli, hasn't achieved masterpiece status.holy faggotry
>>746279442>Japan has never produced a single timeless masterpiece people will care about in the futureAkira Princess MononokeNeighbor TotoroHowl's Moving CastleGrave of the FirefliesSpirited AwayPaprikaKiki's Delivery ServiceNausicaaMemoriesTokyo GodfathersGhost in the Shell
>>746280198No actually, /co/ was very angry about what I was saying. It's why I brought it up because /co/ is obsessed with thinking that the Japanese animation industry produces better than the english animation industry.It's not even something I really care about, it's just weird that people can't accept it. I watch way more anime than english animation, but it's not hard to have a basic objective view.It's like a personal attack, "What do you mean my moe garbage is meaningless junk!" Yeah, I mean what did you think it was? Steam Boat Willie is still relevant today, Looney Tunes will soon be 100 years old, it's not just relevant it's amazing. No one is going to care about Spirited Away or Fullmetal Alchemist or anything like that.
>>746279442Akira is forever more iconic than anything 100+ years of comics has produce
>>746280584>No one is going to care about Spirited Away or Fullmetal Alchemist or anything like that.I think you're mixing up your tastes with general consensus because that's 100% not true at all. As someone who's loves both western and jap shit.
>>746280584Have you considered that you're just in a western culture and therefore surrounded by western material?The way you're talking about the Simpsons is the way someone in Japan would talk about Doraemon.
>>746280546All empty. Fun little entertainment pieces, but empty. Missing a soul. It doesn't transcend to that 10/10.
>>746280584>Looney toons>Relevant in 2026Nigger what world are you living?Groundbreaking? sure but fucking relevant?
>>746280868What's a 10/10 media for you?Give me 5 examples
>>746280763>100% not true at all.Okay well let me know in the future how relevant any anime is. Once an anime is 20 years old no one cares anymore. Because there's really nothing to it.People will continue watching Spongebob for ecample, because it's a masterpiece in animation. And you'll notice something like Spongebob does something you might be unfamiliar with, it USES animation.... I know. Japanese animation, almost never needs to be animated, it doesn't do anything with animation, Japan still doesn't understand what animation is, the medium, it's just a means to an end for them a prioduction line to produce more anime. Spongebob uses the art to tell stories and jokes, the staging framing of those early episodes is amazing. The problem is, I don't even need to argue, because time has already and will continue to prove me right. And when you have kids you'll show them the Disney classics like Jungle Book, not anime garbage, they won't sit for that, neither will you.
>Spongebob>Masterpiece in animationSpongebob was good for 5 seasons. the rest is dogshit
>>746270217Pantsu mod?
bro is just baiting
>>746280796NTA but Simpsons and Looney Tunes are global phenomena even outside of the West. Are they really comparable to Doraemon?
>>746281326Simpson are not a global phenomena for years now, it's JJk. while looney tunes is unheard of for DECADES, my fucking mom has already forgotten who bugs bunny is, imagine the tiktok kids
>>746264054
>>746281326That's not because they're better, it's because the US has exported culture in general, while Japan remained comparatively insular for a pretty long time. The Fast and Furious franchise is also a global phenomenon, that's not a mark of quality, it just shows that Hollywood managed to crowbar their shit in everywhere.So you have to compare local cultural impact, and I don't think you understand how fucking massive Doraemon was.
>>746281286Yeah and so WoW isn't a masterpeice either then. Because other people now make something with te same name.Japanese animation is not praise worthy not something to look up to, it's not well written it's not clever, it's junk food fun slop, that's okay. Many people like that they like the sexy looking little girls, oooh I like it very much. But this is not the way you reach something that really matters, Meaning and purpose, you're not going to find it watching anime. You're not even going to find an example of good animation, because anime doesn't even USE animation for anything.Tom and Jerry playing the piano will be around. Your generic anime fight scene will not.
>>746264054A better one hasn't appeared
>>746280010>>746281191Akira is nearly forty and still in film schools. Ghost in the Shell birthed The Matrix. Spongebob peaked decades ago and is now a walking corpse.Satoshi Kon's editing makes Looney Tunes look like a flipbook. Japan invented sakuga while you're praising a sponge making faces.Ghibli generic? Spirited Away beat Disney at the Oscars. The Lion King is just a Kimba remake you're glazing.Grave of the Fireflies wrecked Roger Ebert. America gave us Velma. Glass houses.Dragon Ball is forty and still a global religion. Naruto outpaces any Western cartoon outside Simpsons. Anime pulls billions while Western animation gets outsourced.You don't hate anime because it's bad. You hate it because it demands more than slapstick. Calling Jungle Book the peak while dismissing Akira tells me you've never studied art. Watch Perfect Blue. If you still call it generic, you're lying or blind.
>>746281594>Tom and Jerry playing the piano will be around. Your generic anime fight scene will not.This is true.If you don't see the current state of western animation, old classic animation is timeless but who said that new Japanese animation made around 10+ years ago won't be the new Tom and Jerry playing the piano? can you guarantee the rest of the world agree with your sentiment?
>>746270021>*makes a thread for the sole purpose of shitposting and farming (you)s*>*gets shitted on*>"wtf man? you should take this topic seriously!"
Contrarian the thread
>>746281825I hate anime? That's weird, I actually love anime. I accept it for what it is. And it's not going to be remembered, that's not what it's for, it's not some clever impactful thing. No one is going to care, no one cares now. Ghibli is generic. The same story with a little girl. You can name off a bunch of anime movies... what's so amazing, what stands out to you? Nothing. And you know it. It fades from your mind.Also slapstick? When the Wind Blows is greater than Grave of Fireflies. Watership Down will remain in your mind. Pinocchio will. They deal with real issues and present them in a proper creative animated format.The relationship between Zuko and his uncle, is more beautiful than any relationship anime has created https://files.catbox.moe/6mc9r2.mp4
>>746281943just cause every post is signed anonymous doesn't mean they're the same person retard
Then you can go into all the Claymation and stop motion, like Fantastic Mr Fox, and Wallece and Gromit.Japan CAN'T create a Wallace and Gromit or Fantastic Mr Fox. Because it's held in prison by "anime". Instead of being creative, telling your story in a way that suits the matter at hand.It's how it is, it's okay. Video games are a bit different because I think Japan actually does produce more interesting things there. Mario and Zelda are not anime imprisoned. And what a surprise those two are the most influential and timeless masterpieces Japan has. Because they suit the work. Mario looks the way he looks and it's good, he's not a flat faced anime boy.
>I love anime>But it's fast food junk actuallyDo people eat Mcdonalds and actively want it to fail because they see it as bland and unoriginal compared to a high class restaurant but still go there and consume every single of it's menu anyway and still rated it 1/10 after all of that.Am i talking to a goyim?
>>746282531You say you love anime but claim it won't be remembered. Spirited Away is on the BFI's Sight & Sound greatest films list. The Telegraph called Grave of the Fireflies one of the most devastating war movies ever made. It doesn't fade from anyone's mind.Your big example is Zuko and Iroh from Avatar. The creators literally called the show a love letter to Japanese anime. It was inspired by Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, and FLCL. Hei Bai was directly inspired by Evangelion's Angels. You're praising a Western cartoon that exists because of the medium you're dismissing.
>>746270348kys
>>746270284that's not the problem. The problem is that weebs will try to murder any japanese developer who doesn't use anime art style
>>746282968Are you implying I want anime to fail? I just don't understand, excuse me if this is rude, it's like some weird brain issue. Do you not understand objective reality?I watch porn... I'm gonna praise porn like it's some high art? No. I just don't get it. I see this issue a lot where people almost feel the need to praise and worship something because they like it. I just don't get it. Yeah I like Lucky Star, that doesn't mean it's a wonderful piece of art. It's kind of just junk like K-ON or whatever.Same usually can't be said for cartoons. Because english animation either needs to be great or it's trash. Anime can be trashy but it knows what it is, it occupies the middle ground and is still pleasant. A bad english animation is unwatchable. Anime usually isn't like that.
>>746264054what artstyle? you know the game this is remaking looks completely different right? they look like playmobil toys
>>746264054>Why has japanese media been stuck on this artstyle for the past 30 years?at least it's not pixel art slop.
>>746283368Stop talking like a pretentious asshole (oh wait you are), I know you're larping liking anime once you mention the most famous fucking anime IN 2010, fucking NOBODY even on not even in the nu-anime fandom talks about K-ON or lucky star anymore you fucking larper.Good job baiting me i suppose. can't expect much from a dishonest person
>>746283368That goes for video games too. People seem to think because they like their waifubait slop, that makes it good or something, they can't admit they like the soft core porn elements and that's why they play it.IT'S OKAY! It's not a big deal, you're playing a video game because it's sexy or whatever, but you can't then get mad that your gacha live service game isn't part of the 10/10 timeless masterpiece category, obviously not!
Perfect example of how people get literally emotional over this: >>746283749"You mentioned Lucky Star, that means you're live action roleplaying about something." ...okay. I'll be sure to mention whatever popular example anime you want me to mention next time. I wasn't aware mentioning Luck Star meant everything you just said it meant, that's interesting.But you've clearly "won" because you said things about me that you have decided are true and so well you win.
