Path of Exile 2 won.inb4 butthurt ADHD zoomers who needs flashy screen clearing fireworks
>>746286156poe sisters we wonned biggestly
>>746286374Why is so much of Poeposting on 4chan ecelebs?What level of mental illness is this to obsess over someone else playing video games?
>>746286156have you even played poe2?it's even worse than poe1 in that regard, you cant see a fucking thing because there's too many effects going on
>>746286521the poe community is a tight-knit community and we cherish each member
>>746286156>inb4 butthurt ADHD zoomers who needs flashy screen clearing fireworksyou haven't played the game, have you
>>746286559>>7462868691.0 will fix it. Trust the vision.
>>746287128there is no fix for too much effectsthe game will get faster and there will be even more
>>746286156Oh nice, they added campaign skip?
>>746286156when are they adding CHADow the CHADssassin?isn't this the official release?
>>746286156legitimately excited for this. melee is my favorite but hammers are so fucking slow. also interested to see how they make daggers work someday.
>>746286156>no red shirtIt's over, Carn must be pissed.
>PoE2 is souls combat and tactical positioning!
>>746286374Someone post the photo of him with the thumbs up guy from the convention. Fucking hell, I've never seen a worse act of pretending to be a woman.
>>746286156Who sees this and thinks this is fun? Grandpas?
>>746287715>pretendinghehe.. she is a woman..
>poo2
>literally no difference at all between D2/torchlight/PoEi guess you "own the libs" by not playing D2 or something?dungeon siege was better btw.
>>746286156Why not just play dark souls at this point?
Tencent shill thread
poo2 sucks thoughbeit
i sure am excited to play generic npc character #548 with no themes or unique mechanics or playstyles
>>746286156I will now play your game.
>>746286156This looks like dogshit. Why do they even make games like this in the era of Elden Ring??????
couldn't they made it slower?it need to fall asleep faster
>>746286156>Path of Exile 2 wonworst ARPG award
>>746286156But it turns into flashy screen clearing within the next 30 minutes - 2 hours, then stays that way for the next few hundred.
yep that's a melty
>>746289512It's methodic and deliberate combat you fucking philistine.
>>746289512Grim Yawn is here for you, as are Last Epoch monoliths. Neither of them are even slow, just painfully boring.
>>746289886try removing your tongue from the niGGGer anus
poop2 won best non-ARPG rollslop vaporware piece of shit award. Congrats. Might be good one day, 5 years from now assuming they fire Troonathan today.
>>746286521GGG built the whole franchise around twitch ecelebs
>>746289886>methodic and deliberateAnon, my 2 button merc deletes every pinnacle boss in less than 15 seconds. Except the Bodach who takes a little longer because it's hard to detonate stormblast bolts on him sometimes...
>>746287839People without autism who actually enjoy video games.
>>746289907>just painfully boringfiltered
>>746288840Unironically Elden Ring itches my Diablo scratch.
that's...literally the mace moveset though...?
>more combo bullshit and skills tied to uniquesOh my god I don't care. Just let me cyclone.Chris Wilson going "look, I can support lightning warp with totems to make the totems teleport :D" is more exciting than all of this shit put together
Diablo like Arpgs are the second worst genre of video games.
>>746293050huh? why?
>every attack will need frenzy charges >You only get them through active blocks and parriesHave fun bro
>>746293338Best loot is always in the highest difficulty end game. There is no challenge at the start and clicking combat is really boring. The real game begins on your second or third playthrough and when you reach that point, what exactly are you doing? Grinding to grind faster. To enter a room, press a button and clear it. You are grinding to play the game less in a sense. You complete an OP build to remove challenge and go back to the starting difficulty when it was already easy. A circle. The actual combat is not fun. You spam the same 1-3 skills and clutter the screen. This is why the only arpg I like is Nioh. The classic isometric stuff is so shit.
They should have never made PoE2, or if they did, they should have just built on top of PoE1 instead of having two different games with two different audiences. Now they have to waste resources maintaining two games
>>746294429werks on my dev build bro
>skills tied to specific uniques>support gems tied to specific skills>passive points tied to specific effects granted by specific support gems>ascendancy notables that grant passive points tied to specific effects granted by specific support gems>we're just doing it to make things easy for new players teehee
>>746294429According to the leaks so far that's not the case
>>746290185That build is so busted, did it last season. Stopped playing pretty early this season because my plant Druid wasn't nearly as good
>They added animations for every monster being cut into pieces by sword skillsPoE2 won BIGLY.
>>746286156The people who play this only as a second screen game aren't going to like this
>>746295951And at least the Tactician version will always be good as long as they leave the 50% spirit passive as is. It'll only get better with more options to use spirit on.
Serious question: Is POE2 supposed to be hard? or maybe you can read that as should POE2 be hard?
>>746286156My buddy and I beat poe1 and had a good timeWe tried poe2 for a few hours on the free weekend and it felt like a slog. even fodder enemies were damage sponges. Did they improve the early game at all? If anything, I find POE2 unique as it feels like an isometric darksouls vs POE1 feeling like diablo on steroids. I am a fighting game monkey so my taste is probably wrong
>>746288840
I almost feel like reinstalling 1, but I'm not downloading over 100GB just for a quick one.
>>746299073Judging by how fast your ES went down, you need a lot more of it. By that point you should be able to get that one talent that increases your ES based on your helm's evasion (or other way around?) so get that.
Damn I was not expecting challenge rewards for an event league. Im hyped.
>>746299073the vision...I see it
>>746299098Just get more drives bro.
>>746300021I lost my chance to get a m2 stick :(
>>746299289What is there to be hyped about? Genuine question. It's just swapping out Expedition Remnants throughout the campaign to Rituals, and then a minor Abyss change in endgame (will still be inferior to farming Amanamu's Void mobs in 0.5 which will almost certainly be nerfed). I dunno if that's worth another 100 hours of playtime, even for a few cosmetics. I would've been down to fuck with 0.5.5 if it had the promised balance overhaul, or Duelist, or even the remaining third ascensions, but there's just nothing there.
>>746300468because I like the game and want more to play, I only started in .5.
>>746286156Temu Diablo
>>746300628Ironic considering D4 is Temu Diablo.
>>746286156I don't understand, where is the giant explosions and particle spam? Why can i see the characters?
>>746300589Fair enough. Sorry for being a massive faggot.
>>746300589That's fair enough in that case. I'm just not too excited myself.
lol
Swords look much better than I expected them to be. I'll play 0.5.5 no matter what since PoE1 sucks so bad right now and 0.5 was so good, but I really just want 1.0 already
>>746299073yo this gameplay is fire
>>746301059.1 was kino
>>746286156i hate the zoom zoom flashing light gambling machine gaming.wanted poe2 to be more like no rest gameplay-wise.
>>746286156>online-onlylmao
>>746301059What did he do wrong here?
>>746301508dashed into a wall like a noobif this was a league clip everyone would be calling this guy bronze trash
How do we get more POE2 like this>>746301059>>746299073and less like this>>746300757
>>746300853I expect ill get burnt out after this event league since I spent 300 hours on the current one, something clicked once I got to maps and couldnt put it down. Diablo 4 never got me as good.
>>746301445What did you expect from a F2P.
>>746298727It's as hard as you make it. Many builds completely trivialise the campaign and endgame, like Spirit Walker's petting zoo; other builds can be pure agony.
>>746298727It can be pretty hard if you don't know what you're doing with your skills, gear, tree, etc. But once you know what you're doing it's fairly easy, still kinda dependent on the build. I'd say any player's first few runs of the campaign will be decently challenging and engaging unless they're following some metacuck build guide, but endgame tapers out the difficulty a good bit.
>>746286156>inb4 butthurt ADHD zoomers who needs flashy screen clearing fireworksTry playing more than just Act 1, retard. Endgame build are purely about pressing 1 button and destroying the entire screen.
>>746305175But Act 1 is unironically the best part. Heck it might be the only good part
>>746301756>if this was a league clipWhat does the assfaggot game have to do with this
>>746286156flashy screen clearing fireworks is still 99% of buildsthis isn't the dark souls of ARPG's, that shit only lasts for like halfway through the campaign
>>746286156I dont know what to play for this event league
ehhh uhhhh mmmmm ya i'll just play hero siege once or twice a year instead thanks
>>746306067swords duh
>>746306067Make the one sword build they designed to be playable I guess
>>746306249>>746306362You're cute *smooch*
>>746301756>2jeets are assfaggotbrownsgrim
>>746306426FineLA deadeye then
>ready stance>Sand stance>Stance stanceWhat the fuck is this?
>>746306067I'm gonna try Spirit Walker monke before it gets nerfed and never comes back. I played MA for 0.5 but this is the last chance we'll get to go through endgame with monke.
>>746306827Gotta make sure none of these skill have any synergy outside of their intended combos. Do NOT attempt to make your own builds.
>>746302515Avoiding burnout is pretty easy if you set a goal and stick to it. I'll probably just go for the challenges this league and save my energy for 1.0
HAI IM MAAK THE GAME DIRECTAH OF PATHFVEXILEWE WANTED TO SHAW YOU THE CAHNAGE THAT CON RESALT WHEN YEW USE THE NEW DJULLIST SKELLSFUST OBVYUSLEY WE USE THE SNICKERSNACK STANCE SKILL, WHICH GRANTS OLL YA SKELLS EXTRA CHANCE TO ARMOR BREAK ON ELECTRYUTED UNNEMIESJAS LOOK AT THE CAHNAGE.BUT THATS NOT ALL.BY ACTIVATING THE NEW AMMAR SPLOSIONS ON ELECTROCYUTED ENEMIES SUPPORT GEM, OWAH SOAD SKELLS CAN NOW CAUSE HYUGE AMMAH EXSPLOSIONS ON ELECTROCYUTED UNEMESWOW.JUS LOOK AT THAT CAHNAGE.BUT WE CUN GEAOW EVEN FUTHUHBY ACTVUTIN COMBAT FRENZY....AND THE NEW CALL OF THE BLOOD LOD SKELL...AND USING THE YEWNIIK WEAPON DINGUSES DONGLEAND THE NYEW NUCKLECE FLIBBERFLOPAND SWAPPING TYU OWAH SECOND PESSEV TRIEE WETH ONLY COLD RSESTENCEAND THUN SWEPPEN BECK TYU OWAH MAIN BELDEND CHAAAGIN OP AUR WEPPEN FUR 20 SICCINDSWI CEN BLEW UP THENTIYAH SCREEN WETH A GOA CYCLEON OF CEHNEAGEHEAS WET ET LUKS LEAK EN ECTSHEN.>screen shows a guy piano through 30 skills to kill one magic mobsNAO, THETS WHAT THE BELD LOOKS LIKE WITH YEWNIKSBUT WI WENTAD TO SHEAO ENETHAR BELD WITH NENPRESENTING THE KILLBOT 290PP>screen shows a guy holding down the cyclone button for -1 second and vaporizing 30 bosses at once + the full mapWE HUPE YELL ENHOY THE SLOW MATHADICA CWOMBAT.AND THE CAAAANAHE.WHEN PATH OF SMEXILE ERELESES BEX T SOWEGHSKALMENEVR 334TH.NOW. ON TO THE BALANCE CHANGES.THERE WONT BE ANY.AND THATS NOT ALL.CHECK OUT THE NEW SLOW AND METHODICAL FOOTAGE OF THE FIRST ACT REWORK.>screen shows an irl man using a flamethrower to incinerate an actual irl swarm of mosquitos
>>746286156have they added damagenumbers yet?
Rain of steel with buried blades looks insane.
>>746307614Extremely high quality post.
>>746307614keeek
>>746307614I talk like this.
Bros they fixed trials of chaos!
>>746309064Unfortunately I'm still only gonna get second asc in campaign then pay some chink a couple divs to carry me through fourth asc.
>>746294429>Have to find the unique helmet that has a proc when you dodge roll 5 seconds after proccing your charm that gives you 50% more light radius>And then the unique ring that turns light radius you have into chance to generate frenzy charge after you parry>And then you need a unique that makes it so taking damage counts as a parry when you blockIm fucking tired of PoE2 builds all being some kind of hack that the devs nerf the next day because "clearly bro it wasnt intended for you to have infinite power charges for your flicker strike build bro"PoE1 lets you build shitPoE2 pretends to let you build shit but if you dont put the legos in the right order the dev intended, they wont fit
>>746309849It doesn't help that the entire game is still based on how good your weapon is. They need to crunch the range on weapon damage (and enemy HP) a lot.
The new updates look kino.>no balance changes in 0.5.5Well waiting until 1.0 it is
i like bear
>>746309064How?
POE AKA "Diablo for third worlders"
>>746309849What's ironic is that the kind of thing you're talking about barely exists in PoE2 yet is basically every single build that's not slams in PoE1
>>746311439>>no balance changes in 0.5.5welp looks like I'm going twister again
>>746312867>quicker rounds>shorter wait time>only kill monsters>better rewards>double or nothing>up to round 30
>>746312943whatever lets you cope lil gup
If your ARPG doesn't look like this, it's fucking dogshit and I'm tired of pretending it's not
>>746305676are you retarded?two ARPGs with characters that can backdash https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Y5t984dWvDg>>746301059he had 4 directions to back dash and kite back to kill the trash mobs but instead misclick to back dash to the wall. this is just player error
>>746313180>right is having fun>left isn'tchecks out
>>746313336yea being retarded lets you have fun with anything
>>746313095How broken is it? Can it compare to monkee pet?
>>746313218he needs to invest some points into hp
>>746313641monkey is easier and does way more damage to single target but twister is way faster and blows up several screens away
>>746301059
>>746313180this image is made by someone that has never played poe. PoE has less conditional gear modifiers than D4 by a wide margin, but I am beginning to suspect whoever made this image knew that and made this image as ragebait
>>746314076>PoE has less conditional gear modifiers than D4 by a wide margin
>>746313557POE is made for autists who don't have fun with video games, correct
>>746314120Can you name me 5 conditional damage mods on weapons in poe?
>>746313180PoE uses bog standard DnD stats and synergies, dunno where this whole "dmg on Tuesdays" narrative is coming from atm, because that was a D4 itemization meme because they had retarded stats like;>While [X] and for 4 seconds after, you gain [Y] increased [Z] and are [A] but only during [B].
Lost Ark mogs
when is the mac port?????
is there more to bear than stacking rage, totems and stomping?
>>746314683Whatever the fuck this is.
>>746314782imagine the amount of lolis this bear can snatch up
>>746314683Rampaging
>>746286374ZAMN, PIRATE SOFTWARE LOOKS LIKE THAT NOW???
>>746314782KEK
>>746314782what the hell
>>746314782games like that are weird they start out with you having to actually think and use skills with at least some brain behind it but as you get further you basicall turn the entire thing into automation... its not that you got better at the game its that the game got easier and now you literally have to think less compared to when you started the game basically a inverted diffculty
>>746314782He's rampaging with only 30 rage? How does that work? I thought you need to stay up rage?
>>746315067and all the graphical sceen clearing effects you get on all these automation late game builds basically fool you into thinking you improved and are now better and the game is harder... but it isnt and you literally got worse because the game stopped forcing you to think
>>746315172iirc first 4 (?) seconds are free
>Looked up witch builds after I'm tired of giving myself boneitis from cycling ed, contagion, bonewave, zombies>just put a million passive stacks on a summon and then swap your weapon to make it follow you faster Yeah this is a lot better than just having a skill you build around. What the fuck?
>>746315438Minions and companion style afk gaming is just too powerfulJust look at spirit walkers!
that's not how you swing a sword PoE niggerI'm starting to believe the retards at GGG have no idea what a sword is
>>746315067you still have to use your brain, just in a different wayit becomes more about troubleshooting the build and progressing your gear>>746315209at a certain point it becomes a victory lap, it's an RPG and you've successfully made a powerful character
>>746313095Twister felt like shit to play, but that was low lv. I enjoyed the frost nova or what ever build early on
>>746315438Are you looking on poeninja? It looks like you found abyssal lich builds. Instead of sorting by DPS or lvl like the ladder normally does, you should check the "main skills" and filter by those to see different builds. If you just look at the ladder with no filter you're going to see all the metanigger builds
>>746314293>Can you name me 5 conditional damage mods on weapons in poe?https://poe2db.tw/us/Unique_itemHere you go dumbass, pick any, there's way more than 5
>>746315067>as you get stronger....the game gets easierwhoa....
>>746316496>there's way more than 5Ok so list themHere's a more accurate, and bigger, list: https://poe2db.tw/us/Two_Hand_Maces#ModifiersCalc
>>746316656>Ok so list themWhy don't you just be honest and read it yourself? Why waste my time? Here you go, prick:>Culling Strike against Frozen Enemies>Fully Armour Broken enemies you kill with Hits Shatter>Attacks consume an Endurance Charge to Critically Hit>On Hitting an enemy, gains maximum added Lightning damage equal tothe enemy's Power for 20 seconds, up to a total of 500>Maim on Critical Hit>Skills which Empower an Attack have (10—20)% chance to not count that Attack>Always deals Critical Hits against Heavy Stunned Enemies>Heavy Stuns Enemies that are on Full Life>(30—60)% increased Melee Damage if you've dealt a Projectile Attack Hit in the past eight seconds>(30—60)% increased Projectile Damage if you've dealt a Melee Hit in the past eight secondsetcetera etcetera
>>746316907>a bunch of useless mods nobody uses on trash uniquesExactly. Now go through the list of mods on rare items and tell me how many are conditional
>>746286156I might try out duelist but the stance stuff isn't super inspiring to me, will probably end up playing martial artist again.
>>746295178>WTF my skill points and items have synergy?????lol
>>746286156Does PoE2 fix the issue with PoE's defensive stats where the way the game is balanced means you're always either at full health and energy shield or dead, with only 0.1 seconds between the two states?
>>746317032>>a bunch of useless mods nobody uses on trash uniquesOh they're useless are they? Why is that?
>>746317424sort of? it really just depends on how much you juice your shit. I found a pretty good middleground between juiced and gigajuiced so I can still take some hits without instantly exploding, but it can hard sometimes. just gotta know what you can or cannot do
>>746317482>Why is that?Because they're generally all low level uniques with low flat damage numbers and 0 scaling vectors that don't do well into the endgame. Here's a set of basically GG items for one of my caster builds from the current PoE2 league. Notice the overwhelming amount of conditionals? Yea me neither.
>>746315982yeah i guess
>>746317767>Because they're generally all low level uniques with low flat damage numbers and 0 scaling vectors that don't do well into the endgame.Yeah because they're all designed with conditional mods. Are you stupid? You're trying to defend PoE here, dumbo, but in the same breath pointing out how bad it is.
>>746315803Show me a game where they get it right then?
>>746316617You say this like it's some kind of own. Inverse difficulty isn't fun, casual.
>>746317974>Yeah because they're all designed with conditional modsSome of those uniques have conditional mods, yes, but that has nothing to do with why they're bad. Weapon skills in PoE2 scale their base damage off of your weapon's damage and a majority of the uniques in the game are campaign/leveling uniques that have extremely low base damage. So that mace that does 60-80 damage is significantly less viable than one in endgame that does 600-800. It has nothing to do with their mods really.I'm not "defending" the game I'm merely pointing out that you're wrong and understand very little about it.
>>746318265>Some of those uniques have conditional mods, yes, but that has nothing to do with why they're bad.Oh so now conditional mods are actually GOOD?>I-IT'S FINE WHEN POE DOES IT
>>746318365>Oh so now conditional mods are actually GOOD?I didn't say this. Your shitposts are very low quality, m8. I see you've given up so feel free to continue shidding and pissing yourself in front of everyone I guess
>>746313180Now do Grim Dawn
>>746318246then why is poe 2 so successful
>>746313180That image isn't making POE look better. Having convoluted retarded stat distribution doesn't make it better. Sometimes simple RPG stats work best, actually in 99% of cases they do. POE isn't that 1%. These retard devs barely understand their own game. They could have never made D2 if they were around then. They lack the talent, they still don't understand D2. Infact none of these devs do. The fact that Minecraft Dungeons 2 looks better than this dogshit says a lot.
>>746318410The entirety of PoE is conditional mods, saying there are less than in D4 is a complete lie. Unsurprising, the last thread was full of Tencent shills using ChatGPT to post.
>>746313180lil gups hate making decisions
>>746318710>The entirety of PoE is conditional modsSo you're just ignoring the items I posted here: >>746317767 And ignoring all the mods here: https://poe2db.tw/us/Two_Hand_Maces#ModifiersCalcand goalpost shifting to a random atlas keystone? That's not even an item. >Tencent shills using ChatGPTOh I see now, you're one of those schizos we like to make fun of.
No rebalance so we lost, literally no reason to play this throwaway league, see you in Dec
>>746318710you keep posting this and people keep telling you you can easily guarantee everything in that image
>>746318875>and goalpost shifting to a random atlas keystone? That's not even an item. It doesn't have to be a fucking item, you're the one shifting the goalpost. The whole fucking game is like this. Everything is conditional. The rare exception that you posted? THOSE WEAPONS CANNOT BE USED EXCEPT WITH SPECIFIC SKILLS, THAT IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF CONDITIONAL.
>>746319045>5% of 25% while standing on a rainbow to drop something that has a 30% chance to even workHello Tencent shill
>>746319063>It doesn't have to be a fucking item, you're the one shifting the goalpost.Except this entire discussion started with you replying to:>>PoE has less conditional gear modifiers than D4 by a wide marginSaying that this is a lie. >The rare exception that you posted?All rare item mods being "the rare exception" is quite the reach, lol. >THOSE WEAPONS CANNOT BE USED EXCEPT WITH SPECIFIC SKILLS, THAT IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF CONDITIONAL.Mace skills can only be used with maces, oh no, the game is so conditional and limited! Is that really the best you can do?Continue sperging for me this is fun
>>746318710This isn't even a player character mod, its a gameplay system mod.What are we doing here you fucking retard?
>>746319238>All rare item mods being "the rare exception" is quite the reach, lol.If you think being forced to use bland stat stick rare items because DPS is tied to weapon damage, exactly like Diablo 3, is in any way a good look for PoE, you are fucking insane. Moreover because you're forced to use them since the other option is dogshit conditional uniques. On top of that you're using them in an entire system where everything is designed to be conditional. You're a liar, Chang.
>>746319393>This isn't even a player character mod, its a gameplay system mod.Ohhhhh sorry I forgot the player character doesn't use the gameplay systems!
>>746319614Seems like you forgot your meds bud.
>>746319519>If you think being forced to use bland stat stick rare items because DPS is tied to weapon damageOh so the problem isn't conditional mods? It's that rares are "boring stat sticks"? You've completely 180'd your argument now kek >Moreover because you're forced to use them since the other option is dogshit conditional uniques. Not really. This was everyone's favorite unique this league: https://poe2db.tw/us/Runeseekers_Call
None of the retards crying about this game have even played it.There are plenty of legitimate criticisms if poe2, but they focus on shit nobody cares about.Probably shitbrown third world vermin who couldn't afford EA.
>>746319750>Oh so the problem isn't conditional mods? It's that rares are "boring stat sticks"?I'm pretty sure both are a problem, moron>Not really. This was everyone's favorite unique this league: https://poe2db.tw/us/Runeseekers_CallNice exception to the rule, meanwhile the character you posted literally only uses rares
>>746319750>Oh so the problem isn't conditional mods? It's that rares are "boring stat sticks"?You're the one who said conditional mods are a problem in the first place...
>>746319751all poe2 haters are shitbrown third world vermin this much is obvious
>>746319751I'm playing it right now and it's dogshit.>boring campaign which rips off Diablo 2>Endgame is just a series of minigames sometimes literally stacked on top of one another
GGG mogs Blizzslop.
>>746319996>I'm pretty sure both are a problem, moronSo we shouldn't have ANY conditionals AND we shouldn't have any stats on our items. Pray tell, what is a good item in an RPG to you, then? Show me an example.>Nice exception to the ruleYou keep saying this every time you're proven wrong lel> meanwhile the character you posted literally only uses raresNo it doesn't. This is the character I pulled those items from. >>746320057Can you quote me saying that?
>>746320289>Can you quote me saying that?>>746314076>this image is made by someone that has never played poe. PoE has less conditional gear modifiers than D4 by a wide margin, but I am beginning to suspect whoever made this image knew that and made this image as ragebait
>>746320343Saying >PoE has less conditional gear modifiers than D4 by a wide margin is not the same as >conditional mods are a problemThanks for trying though.
We need AI moderation on 4chan to shut down trolls and bad actors. Its basically impossible to have any type of discussion without mentally ill contrarians and brown lying retards muddying the waters.
I just started. When does the current league end?
>>746320534December 11th, so when 1.0 hits.
>>746320431Yes it is you fucking idiot, the implication is that conditional mods are bad and D4 is better than PoE because it uses less, you then challenged the assertion that D4 has less conditional mods than PoE. Are you ESL or some shit? Fucking retard
>>746320289>So we shouldn't have ANY conditionals AND we shouldn't have any stats on our items.You shouldn't have as many conditionals, especially like this >>746318710And you also shouldn't have rare items be 99% of what constitutes a useful item in the game. It's schizophrenic game design. Dumb cunt.
>>746320660>the implication is that conditional mods are bad and D4 is better than PoE because it uses lessYou made that up in your head.There was no "implication" at all; I replied directly to an image asserting that PoE gear is filled with nonsensical conditionals and that D4 is nothing but simple, straightforward stats. I said this was untrue. This is the exact opposite of "implication", it's very explicit. I never spoke on which was better or what makes either game's itemization good. You simply hallucinated that in an autistic rage. I am afraid you are the one who is ESL. Anything else?
>>746320798>You shouldn't have as many conditionals, especially like this But that's literally not an item. Again, can you show me an example of a piece of gear that fits this criteria? >And you also shouldn't have rare items be 99% of what constitutes a useful item in the game.I see we're shifting the goalposts again now. This is also untrue, though. I am beginning to suspect you have genuinely never played this game yourself.
>>746320868>You made that up in your head.>I replied directly to an image asserting that PoE gear is filled with nonsensical conditionals and that D4 is nothing but simple, straightforward stats. I said this was untrue. So you agree that the implication is that conditional mods are bad and D4 is better than PoE because it uses less?>I never spoke on which was better or what makes either game's itemization goodYou just described the assertion of the image you were replying to as being "nonsensical", obviously you think that such an assertion makes the game look bad. If you didn't think that, you wouldn't even have replied to it. You are literally defending PoE because you think the post made it look bad. If you didn't, you wouldn't have replied to it. Retard ESL can't into logic, or just dishonest shill?
>>746286156Is duelist back already?
>>746321061>But that's literally not an item.It doesn't matter if it's a fucking item or not, but I did demonstrate that the items have conditionals like that.>I see we're shifting the goalposts again now. This is also untrue, though.It's not. The very character you posted uses mostly rares for the very reason I gave.
>>746321202>So you agree that the implication is that conditional mods are bad and D4 is better than PoE because it uses less?...No? Why are you repeating yourself after having completely ignored what I said? >You just described the assertion of the image you were replying to as being "nonsensical"You're completely incapable of reading, I guess. I didn't describe the assertion of the image as nonsensical, I said the image is describing PoE gear mods as being "nonsensical conditionals". Reading comprehension. Slow down and digest my post before you hastily reply.>obviously you think that such an assertion makes the game look bad. If you didn't think that, you wouldn't even have replied to it.No it's just a completely false assertion, so I replied to correct it. I literally said this in my initial post. It has nothing to do with "defending" a game, I'm merely correcting incorrect information.>Retard ESL can't into logic, or just dishonest shill?You're projecting.
>8 challengesFuck, guess I'll have to play.
>>746321298>It doesn't matter if it's a fucking item or notExcept it does. Your entire argument started by arguing that all PoE gear is filled with conditionals. As I've proven that wrong, you goalpost shifted to "ah well yea but they're all boring stat stick rares, you use literally no uniques" and now that I've proven that wrong you've goalpost shifted again to "ah well yea you use uniques but not ENOUGH uniques"Picrel, here's a random snapshot of a random ascendancy's (ritualist) weapon usage. Does it look like rares are 99% of what people use? I mean this genuinely, this is embarrassing, even for me who is humoring you despite you changing your fundamental argument multiple times now. You're arguing in bad faith and I'm playing along for kicks, and despite completely shifting what you're saying you're wrong at every opportunity.
>>746321382>...No? Why are you repeating yourself after having completely ignored what I said?Because you contradicted yourself in the first 2 sentences.> I didn't describe the assertion of the image as nonsensical, I said the image is describing PoE gear mods as being "nonsensical conditionals".But the image doesn't use those words, that's how you're describing the argument of the image. YOU ARE THE ONE INTERPRETING THE IMAGE THIS WAY.>No it's just a completely false assertion, so I replied to correct it.1. It's not false2. You wouldn't take the time to correct it if you didn't think it cast the game in a negative light. You've put so much time into defending this shit, obviously you are either emotionally or financially invested in doing so.
>>746321674>Because you contradicted yourself in the first 2 sentences.Where? >But the image doesn't use those words, that's how you're describing the argument of the imageSo we're pretending to be retarded.>1. It's not falseIt is and I've already proven it in this very thread through. Can you point to picrel where the conditionals are? > You've put so much time into defending this shit, obviously you are either emotionally or financially invested in doing so.You're projecting again.
>>746321563>Except it does. Your entire argument started by arguing that all PoE gear is filled with conditionals.No, the argument started by you disagreeing that PoE gear is filled with conditionals. Obviously it is filled with conditionals, as I have proven to you, but more than that, THE ENTIRE GAME IS FILLED WITH CONDITIONALS. >Does it look like rares are 99% of what people use? Does 1 cherrypicked image look like 99% of people to you? Dishonest shilling once again.Here, if you want to actually prove anything, go to Diablo 4 and PoE 2 and actually count the conditionals in both games. I'll wait for you to post some actual evidence.
>>746313218can you even do this in PoE 1 anymore? they deleted item quantity so no more gigajuice just dad gaming now
>>746318936They'll rebalance everything so that only sword is worth playing.
>>746321810>Where?Where you said I made it up in my head but then said exactly what you said I made up.>So we're pretending to be retarded.cope>It is and I've already proven it in this very thread through. Can you point to picrel where the conditionals are? Cherrypicking>You're projecting again.cope
Look what they did to my boy.....
>>746321842>he argument started by you disagreeing that PoE gear is filled with conditionals. Correct, and this is false. You keep ignoring all the proof otherwise and saying "b-b-b-b-but those are EXCEPTIONS to the rule". I've linked you items directly from my character, I've linked you the rare item mod lists in full, and I've given you multiple opportunities to show me where all these conditionals are yet you've refused to and can't show me one. In light of that, well, yes, of course I am right and you are wrong. >Does 1 cherrypicked image look like 99% of people to you?Oh it's "cherrypicked" now huh? As you call me dishonest, kek. If I really wanted to cherrypick I could've easily shown you an ascendancy like picrel where a majority uses uniques, but instead I showed you a random one of a mix of everything. But of course this is just me being dishonest and lying, right? You sure hate it when data proves you wrong.
>>746322003>cope cope cope cherrypickingI see you've given up too. I accept your concession.
>>746286156>show really complex and involved interaction between sword skills and flashy boss mechanics>then show what it actually looks like in endgame:>stacking a bunch of effects to delete entire screens of enemies effortlessly and doing 10000000 DPSWhy do they bother with the first if every character just ends up zooming around deleting entire screens of enemies? It just limits how the skills can be used. Do they really think people give 2 fucks about how it plays in the campaign?
>>746322209you're not fooling anyone, Tencent shill
>>746306067Deadeye
>>746322094>Oh it's "cherrypicked" now huh?Yes presenting 1 example out of 1000000 being the rule is indeed cherrypicking. Post some actual evidence. Go and count all the conditional rules in the game and compare it to D4. Make a table. I'll wait.
>>746320534>>746320636What about 0.5.5?
>>746306067Ice shot pathfinder, it's literally the fastest. All you need is speed.
bro got one hit by Geonors frost rays >>746322094
I haven't played MA yet so I guess I'll try that for the ritual event leagueDo I go hallow palm or get some ridonkulous unique gloves?
>>746322438I posted far more than just 1 example, but of course you're ignoring all of them. >Go and count all the conditional rules in the game and compare it to D4. Make a table. I'll wait.You know I'm not going to do that. Neither are you and neither is nobody else. You're just building up a wall you know nobody is willing to climb so you can run away and act like you've won an argument you were intellectually dismantled in an hour ago. Childish, really. I'll accept your concession and move on now.
>>746322646>I posted far more than just 1 example, but of course you're ignoring all of them.I don't want examples, I want you to prove your assertion by giving all the data. Go and count them.
>>746322574if the gloves are any good they will be worth more than you can afford at league start
>>746323093I do HCSSF
>>746299235This was from the first patch, nigger. Most builds now kill that guy in seconds.
>>746324051>Most builds now kill that guy in seconds.Why did GGG have to give into the casuals?
>>746313180Left is nothing like PoE. Very Nioh though.
>>746323563Condolences.
>>746322478separate league will run concurrently with the league going on, will likely end with 1.0
>>746324896they nerfed everything
>>746286156>>746286156>ADHD zoomers who needs flashy screen clearing fireworksPoE2 also caters to those, though.
>>746286156I thought POE2 is flashy screen clearing fireworks
>>746317265I'm so glad my skill has synergy with the stanceularity buff. A buff only granted only by that skill and consumed by one other skill used by the same weapon type.Having skills use generic status effects like chill and maim and armour break to enable them would open up too many options and too many options are scary.
>>746327068yeah true man I should be able to spec into reload speed on hammers, always thought the damn things reloaded too slowly. shame that every weapon isn't functionally identical to one another with only variance in numbers like in the game that is also out and is playable. every game should be the same after all.
>>746327240Obviously reload speed not being applicable to hammers is the issue and not shit like having three flavors of infusions and three flavors of charges, all of which do nothing on their own and are functionally identical outside of being generated and spent by different things so you don't miss out on the meaningful combat of pressing button 1 until you generate enough of resource to spend on button 2 in this game which totally doesn't rely on generator/spender mechanics and cooldowns. I am silly.
>>746326884That's literally the tutorial and he isn't using any skill just auto attack
>>746324896I killed it in seconds in 0.1 too, many people just didn't build right
>>746328818>many people just didn't build rightName 1 build on each class that can kill Azarian sub-10-seconds on-level no twink gear then.
>>746290050trvke
>>746327963>generator/spender mechanics and cooldownspoe2 haters just say shitthere's like 5 skills in the game with cooldowns
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>>746327963>his problem is with fucking charges >doesn't even know how they workyou just saying shit for attention huh
>>746328917Idk I was playing stormweaver, I'm sure some classes didn't have a way, monk with double bell surely could too
>>746329134There are way more but most are buffs
>poo shit 2Yeah bro just let me waste my life farming currency yeah totally pffhahah
>>746319045>people keep telling you you can easily guarantee everything in that imageThat's completely wrong
>>746329250Oh that makes sense. Monk and sorc were pretty much the only 2 viable classes for braindead fast campaign clears.
>>746318427grimdawn is the same as poe but with like 900000000 more lines
so swords coming with 0.5.5 or 1.0?
>>746318540thats because the poe example is completely wrong, poe is closer to D2 than any other arpg
>all sword skills are elemental and a few are blood damageWhy would you go duellist and not amazon or the other amazon lady?
>PoE 1 had more build variety in closed beta than PoE 2 will have at release
