Why has ARPG gameplay degenerated since Diablo 2?PoE 2 is supposed to be the cream of the genre, the spiritual successor to D2, 25 years of progress. However:>No way to customize character's appearance>No real physics engine, game can't even measure the Z axis>Camera axis is locked>No destructible environment>No in-game passage of time>NPCs' mouths don't move when they talk>NPCs are static and don't do anything to make the world feel more immersive>Game levels are all instanced and disconnected from each other>Game levels are all extremely simple and limited in terms of design>No or very limited use of procedural generation of levels (a supposed staple of the genre)>Campaign has no cinematics despite being heavily story-driven>No mercenaries>Interactable objects are covered by intrusive oversized text-boxes that look like they come from a Powerpoint slide>No thought given to visual clarity, game is eye-cancer in end-game>End-game atlas map is extremely repetitive and has no real goal or directionality to it>League mechanics are just half-baked mini-games with no rule or design that is inherently fun, just a vehicle to collect currency, no reason to play them for their own sakePoE 2 doesn't seem to have improved on anything Diablo 2 did, in many regards it seems to have gone backwards. Even Diablo 3 innovated on it in some ways. Why does it get so much praise?
>gameplay>lists some gay ass movie game garbage features
>>746418827>cream of the genrei just creamed in your moms vagina
>>746418827>PoE 2 is supposed to be the cream of the genreIt is.
but every youtuber on the planet says it's the greatest game of all time
>>746418827Based on those criteria it sounds like D4 is your dream game. Go nuts
>PoE2 was supposed to be the chosen one>but it doesn't have [insert list of unnecessary things no one asked for]Never make another OP ever again, retard.
>>746418827>game can't even measure the Z axisI don't think this is true, there are enemies that jump or float and in doing so dodge shit on the ground like grenades
Tencent shill thread
PoE2 is as closest to the fun i had with D2 than every other game.
>>746418827>Why has ARPG gameplay degenerated since Diablo 2?It hasn't. Diablo 2's whole depth is stacking a single ability, and spamming it.Your nostalgia blinds you.
>>746418827>No way to customize character's appearance>No or very limited use of procedural generation of levels (a supposed staple of the genre)>Campaign has no cinematics despite being heavily story-drivenplain wrong
>>746418827poo is dogshit. also, not even a released game. so who gives a shit. I reckon true gamers got tired of early access horseshit over the past 15+ years. The budget to pay "content creators" has run out, so now nobody plays or mentions this milker of autists. Sure, the game will probably always have 3 people playing it, highly likely the autists.
>>7464235354m concurrent on launch btw
>>746423123yeah and this is a good thing. your virgin autist brain will never comprehend. simplicity and the lack of depth is not a bad thing. lack of depths is especially good to make money in gaming.
>>746423131None of those are wrong at all.
>>746422983lol no. If you use a leap skill the enemies still hit you.
>>746423593and? could be 500 gorillion on launch. and 99.73% of those are paid for streamers, youtubers, and chinese bots to farm for the black markets, and such. What is your point? People tried a game out? Wow, never happened before. People saw that the game is ass and moved on with there lives, and to play much better video games? Wow, who could have predicted.Marketers are so fucking retarded, it's unreal.
>>746423123Oh yeah and what do you do in PoE 2?>stack a single ability and spam it
>>746422925>>but it doesn't have [insert list of unnecessary things no one asked for]So they asked for a worse version of Diablo 2?
>>746423798autists did. and it is sad. I'm not even joking. Unfun garbage that gives a player no joy, like poe 2, is the result of autism.
>>746418827Don't care, never played any blizzard game and never paid to alphatest poo2.Having fun blasting Hero Siege right after new Grim Dawn expansion.
>>746423924grim dawn is dogshit too. it just doensn't feel good to play. In a different way to poo. It is somhow bland, unispired, gray, like it doesn't want to exist. Not enough brutalitiy, the story is stupid, it doesn't make you invested in either the story and the world, nor the character. And i've never played Hero Siege, but since you like grim dawn, it is most likely bland, subpar, and a nothingburger too.
>>746418827I thought Diablo 4 was making a good start on a return to the Diablo and D2 style when it launched, but now it's basically reskinned D3. 20 torment levels, enemies are in huge packs that just explode before you can even see what they were, showers of loot, and the new area is far too bright and pretty. I miss the slower paced dungeon crawling experience from a few years ago.
>>746418827That's the dumbet list of complaints anon. The game is boring that's the problem.
>>746424346It's boring because of the complaints listed.
Is PoE at least better than Diablo IV?
poe2 was great when it was dark souls litethey just HAD to cater to poe1 streamrs and the 1% wanting to go zoom zoom
>>746418827Didn't read faggot
>>746424820D4 did the same thing. I think there are just too few of us left who want it to be closer to D1 and D2.
>>746425132>and D2.The same D2 where everyone and their brother played a blink-spamming sorc? Real meaningful gameplay there, bro.
>>7464188276/10 bait, I replied
>>746425458>meaningful gameplaythis nigga searches for deep meaning when he is swallowing cum
>>746424907>>746425517CCP sending their best
>>746425132D2 was bright and quippy too. Even D1 had some light comedy with Wirt even if the backstory is dark. If we're talking about gameplay when comparing it to Dark Souls, everyone zips around like a fairy one-shotting everything. D1 was the only entry that asked you to slow down. Did anyone even play these games?
>>746424762I think so.
>>746424762Yes but that's not something to brag about.
>>746424907that's a man
>>746425517
>>746425458>everyone Not me. >>746425719I'm an oldfag, I played D1 when it released and it was my favorite in terms of gameplay, but there's no doubt that it was pretty bare bones. D4 before the first season came out felt closest the genre had come to that for me.
>>746425757We have so much in common already o.o
>Dungeon Siege 1 and Sacred showed way forward for arpgs>not a single game followed>instead we have d2 always online edition in two flavors as supposed pinnacle of the genreI fucking hate this timeline.
>>746426602If these games were good people would follow them. Dungeon seige despite all the advertising generated zero appeal. And blizzard cucked to Microsoft. This is the correct timeline
>melee character>look inside>ranged characterMan fuck this game.
More games should have free weekends. Saved me 40 smacks. Also arpgs are now live service slop so sayeth blizzard.
If you want a real ARPG play Champions Return to Arms
>>746426602Just play Elden Ring.
>>746427327nigger, please. You don't give a drowning man a brick. If you were to recommend anything, then please a video game, at least a decent one. Not some rollslop trash, that only braindead cum guzzling niggers like yourself are in awe of.
>>746427305I don't get why nu/v/ gets filtered by this game so hard. Is it the tits?
>>746427403>rollslopAs opposed to clickslop?
>>746427510dis nigga so dumb he tryin to imply that a roll is not a click
>>746418827yeah but>wasd modejust for that it's superior to all the slop that came before it
>>746427507Nigga I played this shit back on my PS2 like 30 years ago why tf would I need to play it again. Also the Dark Elf had a voice line when he went into a cave that was like "Well, this looks like a nice place to have a mental breakdown" and I've never forgotten it.
>>746427617Why did it take so long. I've been asking for this since forever.
>>746427721Not sure, I would have liked the genre more with it.
>>746418827>PoE 2 is supposed to be the cream of the genre, the spiritual successor to D2PoE 1 was already the spiritual successor to Diablo 2 and the whole reason for its existence was a frustration over the lack of Diablo 2-like ARPGs. PoE 1 plays a lot like D2 and follows its philosophy. PoE 2 is something different, which is welcome. I'd rather more creative games that take risks rather than do something safe like emulate D2.
>>746426908enough about literally every ARPG ever made
>>746427691And it's still the best ARPG to this day
>>746418827poop2 devs crashed the franchise trying to turn it into rollslop
poo2 is not an ARPG
>>746427983What else are you supposed to do, stand here and just tank the damage?
>>746428065Do what you did in D2
>>746427983>the mere inclusion of dodge mechanic means its LITERALLY dark souls nowexplain this logic, please. you are aware that dark souls did not invent the concept of dodging attacks and i-frames, right?
Dude Titan Quest came out 20 years ago
>>746418827>>No way to customize character's appearanceWhy do zoomers care so much about this shit? I want characters to be characters and have a personality and story, not your tranny faceless self insert
>>746427983>nooo i have to engage with mechanics instead of just outstattingthis is what you sound like btw
>>746424090Grim Dawn suffers from being a 10 years old game using a 20 years old graphics engine.But I liked the world and overall NPCs: the map has many secrets, characters react to quests, there are factions, choices,...
>>746426602>dungeon siege>one long non-stop corridor map>character building is choosing whether you want white damage, red damage or green damage>way forwardNah, fuck off with that. The only impressive thing about Dungeon Siege was the seamless map loading and that has long been surpassed by other games.
I'm sorry but Diablo 1 is actually the best ARPG.>But it's soooo sloooowWhat's the matter zoomer? Can't handle deliberately paced atmospheric challenging ARPGs with well written dialogue, settings, and items and spells?
>>746428065>>746428231I don't understand why you bother trying to reason with people whose primary complaint is "it's not Diablo 2."
>>746428669Holy based !
There is no reason to play anything but a Gemling.
>>746428368>characters react to questsIn the most barebones and superficial way possible>there are factionsWhich don't matter because you can max out reputations with all of them and even that only (mildly) affects what sort of enhancements you get for your gear.>choicesSee above. Except for a grand total of 2 (two) choices (picking your flavor of retards to join you in act 2 and siding with the cannibals or exterminating them in act 5), everything is entirely cosmetic and surface level.There are other questionable decisions in that game as well, like the devs insisting on limiting stash space in an offline single-player game, so you have to use mods or create endless mule characters to hoard your gear or most bosses having fuckall mechanics, so you end up just standing there face tanking their hits and hoping your build can just outstat the damage.That being said, there still nice aspects about this game, like the world building, mastery system, gear variety etc.
>>746428969Ballknower
>>746429026That is still better than having none of that.
>>746428969The quality abusers will 110% get nerfed in 1.0, so enjoy it while it lasts.
>>746428969you mean pathfinder? stun immunity while sprinting, 6 additional passive points, traveling nodes can be converted to damage, immunity against chill/temp chain and all other kind of slows. damage and defense like always comes from gear.
>>746429026>most bosses having fuckall mechanics, so you end up just standing there face tanking their hits and hoping your build can just outstat the damage.the new dlc kinda fixes this with actual boss mechanics most builds can't just ignore.Following the outcry from shitters due to being unable to outstat encounters have been mildly entertaining.
>>746429113I guess I know what I'm playing in 0.5.5 then
>>746429087Is it really? I'd rather have mechanics with actual impact and depth rather than something that's only there to tick a checkbox.>>746429213>the new dlc kinda fixes this with actual boss mechanics most builds can't just ignore.Which bosses are those? I still havent got around to playing it.
>>746429195If Pathfinders are so good why are they so low compared to deadeyes?
>>746427885>I'd rather more creative games that take risks rather than do something safe like emulate D2.Did you read the OP? The problem is that Poo 2 didn't take risks and didn't do anything to advance the genre in the 25 years since D2, in fact it went backwards.
>>746429375Because Fubgun.
>>746429413Who? I'm sorry I play video games not yourube. Sorry not sorry
>>746429413What if I don't care about using a gun and would rather use a bow? And whatever unique that is it's probably impossible to get on SSF anyways.
>>746429375deadeye is usually the league starter. once you have gear (2000+d) you switch over to pathfinder. the only thing deadeye has over pathfinder is the additional arrow which you can get from gear later on. dont make assumptions based on poe ninja stats.
>>746429113I think it will too. I'm betting on Tactician for Merc in 1.0 since there'll definitely be some new spirit options, and double spirit is just universally good.
What's the worst possible league starter I can go for to make the game feel like 0.1 again where there was actual challenge and friction instead of lolfaceroll everything with cyclones or ice shot or slams?Is it physical blood mage? Thorns Smith of Kitava? Non hollow palm melee invoker?
>>746429580Why would you? The game isn't worth playing more than once
>>746429580In the current patch? Any sorc build. Act 1 and 2 as her is pure CBT.
>>746428209But you can customize characters, that's what MTX are for.
>>746429343Pretty much all of the dlc bosses have moves you can't ignore. The moves in question are near always area denial oriented, so the fights feels more like dancing instead of just right clicking on mob till death.
>>746429661What elem?
>>746429580>What's the worst possible league starter I can go for to make the game feel like 0.1 againThe rune league ends next Friday, it gets replaced with Rituals instead. Not just normal rituals but boss rush rituals. So if you want masochism especially in Act 1, play the next mini-League on Hardcore and always trigger the boss rush ritual fights.
>>746429695>character customization = paying $10 for a hatkill yourself
>>746429729Doesn't matter. They're all dogshit early.
>>746429580melee/life/armor based build.
>*people complain about PoE*>"UUUHM YEAH BUT WHATABOUT BLIZZARD AND DIABLO"
>>746418827you lost tranny
>>746429780this is wrong. rune league keeps going until 1.0. the new ritual league runs parallel to the rune league with its own league reset.
>>746429780I always play HCSSF anywaysit just depends on my mood whether I reset or continue on SSF if I die
>>746418827Path of Exile > Diablospinning and winning
>>746427983it is the obvious milking gacha cosmetics live service garbage league system that has ruined the game. And poe is not the only game ruined.Not every little patch to a video game needs "a new league" with 500$+ worth of cosmetics, whatever the fuck that is. Dogshit that invalidates builds, characters, progress, forces you to once again play through the worst story in existence of stories, etc.But, yes, rollslop also bad.>>746428065yes. that's how combat actually works.
>>746429874>>746429780Its crazy because the rune league is probably one of the easiest ones yet. Get to pick your reward and usually it's really good like extra skill gems or runes or even uniques they just straight up gift you. Easiest campaign ever
>>746429818But Titans are OP?
>>746429893yes spin to win my ass. its 25 mana/s while channeling as a lvl 13 skill. once you have it scaled up to level 27+ like most other endgame skills it will probably be 50+ mana per second unlinked. with proper gems more like 150+ mana per second. no you cant outregen that even with the lavianga mana flask. its a problem people will run into and no there is no proper mana leech not since they gutted ele mana leech and redesigned the leech formular. dont bother coping.
>>746429851>you lost nice retention, Tubathon
>>746429893You can literally do the same as a WW barb
>>746429893whirling slash/whirling assault are already in the game retard, enjoy your "melee" swords
>>746430062D2 WW is unfun. PoE1 used to have old style cyclone, changing it to a channeling skill was a much better idea.
>>746430092I will, thanks anon!
>>746430062you can? ww barb in d4 is more about dust devil than it is about ww. ww is basically just a mobility skill that casts dust devils. it feels different.
>>746430114Yeah nothing says swordplay like channeling a spell
>>746430019Your laviagnas?
>>746430150>lol what if we just copy pasted the other abilities but put them on swordslmao
>>746430193what the fuck do you mean?
>>746426908You could disregard the magic spell build and play like this
>>746430247yeah that's nice for the tutorial level Chang but unfortunately the game is a bit different after that
>>746430186>it's a spell because you can hold down the button!!!Why do you nostalgiafag boomers seethe so much? If D2 is your perfect game go play it. You won't, because it is outdated. A great game back in the day that now consists of Blizzard selling you overpowered DLC characters that ruin the game's economy.
>>746422849My only issue with poe2 is mobility options are lackingAnd it's not like an active design decision because you can get high ms with mage blood or mobility with temporalis it's just all gated by absurdly rare items
>>746430298Tell me why wouldn't this scale? Just get beeger sword with beeger damage and longer reach and roll or parry to avoid enemy attacks. Why do you need to have magic?
>>746430019>gutted ele mana leechLiterally solved with a single support gem. Or just use a mana flask every now and again, you mong.
>>746430325>Why do you nostalgiafag boomers seethe so much? If D2 is your perfect game go play it.Amusing considering almost the entirety of the Poo 2 campaign just rips off D2. If only those sheepfuckers could have done more than copy pasting it.
>>746430368solved? you are solving your problem by sacrificing 30% of your damage. thats not a solution, its a cope.
tranny game
>>746430413We're in agreement that they absolutely did>Dark European Fantasy Act 1>Desert Act 2>Jungle Act 3and I would criticize the game for it. At least the other acts are different.Still doesn't matter much. PoE1 and 2 are far superior to Diablo. Diablo 1 & 2 are fine but nostalgiabait at this point (and D2 is getting fucked over by nublizzard). Diablo 3 sucked. Diablo 4 is sucking currently.
>>746430413How exactly? Fighting the now evil scion and her tentacle hentai pet corruption doesn't seem the same as following the dark wanderer who becomes Diablo. Unless you're talking about 1 actually but Kitava is a God and isn't even remotely the same as Baal.
I love how this game mindbroke /v/ because it was supposed to be a failure and yet they made so much money on the early access pre order keys they paid off all development up until then and into 1.0Sorry that you lost~
>>746430442Or you can stop whining and use regular mana flasks. Also, if a single support is a 30% of your damage, you're doing something (a lot of things) wrong on your build.
>>746430442You might have to spend 3 points on allocating Lavianga's Brew. The horror.
>/v/sp plays PoE2
>>746430591using regular mana flasks over laviagna is a sign of a poorly optimized builds same as solving your mana issues by sacrificing damage supports.
>>746430523>Fighting the now evil scion!!!?
>>746430501>PoE1 and 2 are far superior to Diablo.Like OP said, Poop 2 can't even put 2 concurrent levels into one map. World of Warcraft had a giant seamless game world that could handle thousands of players at a time back in 2004. Poop 2 lags when you load a square isometric map and put 5 people in it. And that's literally all the gameplay is - press button to load a square and kill the monsters in the square, repeat ad infinitum. Any time they do anything to make it resemble a real video game, like the temple, it gets gets gutted the very next patch because apparently its too fun.
>>746430550but enough about Diablo 4
>>746430663>wah, there is no way to fully solve mana on a channeling build>if you're not fully solving mana on your channeling build, you're poorly optimizedSo which is it nigger?
>>746430550nigger what? 1.0 will never be released. 1.0 is the death of the game and the admission of failure. the only way to keep sheeple like yourself is pumping the full of lies and hopium.poo1 has more players than poo2.
>>7464307951.0 comes out on December 11th, nigga.
>>746418827true
>>746430523Are you fucking retarded?>follow the macguffin as it leads you on a chase through woodlands, desert, then jungle>rescue the old guy in level 3 of world 1 to have him identify your items and deliver exposition
>>746430019your clarity?
>>746428209holy fuck can you israelis fuck off with this completely fake manufactured generation warfare? its legit reaching schizo levels on nonsense at this point. "no character customization = zoomer" like give me a fucking break you ugly faggot
>>746430973>holy fuck can you israelisthey're chinese/russians anon
>>746430750You're right actually, this game is shit>No Super Mario Power ups>No Open World Activities>No Raids>No Daily quests>No PvP mode>No Survival Elements>No Relationship meters>No Card battling mini game>No Vehicle Customization>No Way to play Non Lethal>No Recruiting NPCs for combat>No Cars>No Guns>No Ultimate Team Mode>No Witch and Sorceress Sex Scene
>>746430868right. decemember 11th. of 2024. I've heard that back in like 2018, and even in the 2024 itself. before the rape of retarded biotrash like yourself, I mean the early access, was announced.
>>746430973Diablo 4 is right over there if you want to make a fat druid that looks like you bro.
>>746430959even with clarity 1 and 2 which you can have equipped individually you wont reach numbers high enough to solve the qol/mana issue. pressing flasks by hand is not an option. you would need at least 3 lineage supports because they dont have mana multiplier and even then you would suffer as long as they dont fix/nerf level scaling.
>>746430523>>746430914also the corruption of the local rules by the seemingly evil forces in the act 1. the once cool ruler who ends up the final boss of act I.
>>746431072what? is your reading comprehension that poor? im literally implying that i dont give a fuck about the lack of character customization in PoE.
>>746431180I'm not poor, I'm rich.
>amazon can leech elemental attack damage Why would you use any other class with melee skills?
>>746431221Leech kind of sucks.
>>746431221Because Duelist will come with Slayer and it will single handedly fix leech and I will just go blood magic.
>>746431024all i know is that israelis love distracting people away from the real issues to focus more on pointless idiotic shit like zoomers vs millennials
>>746431048you just but the end-game is chock full of garbage minigames that are completely out of place, likely because they're lazy retards who steal shit from phone games>Hmmm just what I wanted, an escort quest with a bar to fill and giant buttons that cover the screen for power upsGoofy gacha garbage
>>746431302wait they literally just copy pasted the breach shit from Poo 1?
>>746431302
>>746418827>Why has ARPG gameplay degenerated since Diablo 2?It hasn't, you just keep playing shitty Diablo clones like POE and then act like you're confused about why it's just a shitty Diablo clone.
>>746431302>Escort questAt least use the terminology correctly. You sit in the middle and kill masses of monsters that run to you.Also most people just prefer regular unstable breaches, aka open and kill swarms of monsters and leave.>>746431398No, the made nu-breach for PoE2 and ported it over to PoE1 because PoE1 has been made exclusively with PoE2 assets for a few years now
>>746431398yes. poo1 became the testing ground for upcoming poe 2 mechanics and features.
>>746431130>pressing flasks by hand is not an optionLiterally why not?
>>746418827it's no different than people wanting to speedrun wow so they can get to raidspeople wanna speedrun arpgs so they can get to the endless grinding part. the days of walking are over because it's not "appealing" to the broader audience
>>746423594This is why Vampire Survivors is the best Diablo-like in the genre. No bullshit, no thinking, just constant neuron activation.
>>746431465>No, the made nu-breach for PoE2 and ported it over to PoE1 because PoE1 has been made exclusively with PoE2 assets for a few years nowNope keepers was 2 leagues ago, keep up shill
>>746431501its annoying I sure as hell dont play 300+ hours a league and press more than my clear skill and use the dodge/sprint button. thats not the kind of game poe 2 is.
>>746431162>the once cool ruler who ends up the final boss of act I.That is in no way shape or form Andariel
>>746431467>yes. poo1 became the testing ground for upcoming poe 2 mechanics and features.You don't actually believe this do you?
>>746431601Then play another build, I guess. Idgaf about pressing a flask every now and again.
Poe 2 is literally the best game ever made
>>746431725>Then play another buildI will thats why I said its going to be unplayable.
>>746431784on opposite day
>>746431541VS became total fucking dogshit achievement farmer with paid for dlcs and too many characters and weapons.VS is a perfect example of poo retardation, because too much = worst ever.
>>746431835>unplayable.for (you)
>>746418827Didn't read but yeah ARPGs are designed to be dogshit. They're timesink slot machine simulators not actual games.
>>746431609correct. Because Andariel is not the boss. It is the former ruler of Tristram, Leoric.
>>746431598Are you fucktarded? GGG THEMSELVES said they just reuse PoE2 assets. Kingsmarch for PoE1 is literally based off of the assets from PoE2. You have no idea how development in general works let alone PoE's.
>>746421756fpbp as always
>>746431784That's not GTA VI.
>>746421756FPBP
>>746431302Poopturds talk about this like it's the pinnacle of gaming. Truly they are the endpoint for the sloppification of gaming.
>>746418827PoE2 is probably the best arpg of all time already, and when it releases in full it absolutely will be if it doesnt get fucked in some way.
>>746423123This. I love D2 but its painfully basic. I'm playing the new ladder and I'm already bored in NM.
>>746433160>n fullThese games never got a "full" state.
>>746430247is this poe2? I thought swords weren't released yet?
>>746418827>No way to customize character's appearancethis is your first listed grievance, seriously? you're a fucking tranny faggot
>>746418827Minecraft Dungeons 2 unironically might be the best game in the genre. The first one was so much fun with friends but its online systems sucked. The second one looks like a massive improvement.
>>746433325No, they just showcased swords this week.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMo3RYyr4vY
>>746433325Leaked footage
>>746418827how do I get into this game? it feels so bad that rolling slows you the fuck down, it feels so sluggish compared to poe1/le/d4
>>746418827>No way to customize character's appearanceBut that's not true?>Camera axis is lockedThat's a good thing, you retard. >I'ts not a movie game Yeah, terrible.
>>746418827This game needs some kind of companion for the campaign that comments on stuff that happens and talks to the main character
>>746433438Roll MS boots ASAPThen the game feels much better
>>746433160>when it releases in fullit will never happen, you retard. a full release is the death of poe.
>>746433759Full release just meant free release.
>>746433438>how do I get into this game?why do you want to? The remnants of your sanity are screaming at you>turn around right fucking NAO!>abandon the poo
>>746433438rolling doesnt slow you down or make you faster. your movement speed averages out during the entire duration of the roll. the first of the roll is obviously a little bit fast so you can evade attacks, the other half is slower as some kind of recovery. you can play through the entire game without rolling once, later on in the endgame you will roll less and less.
>>746418827>>Campaign has no cinematics despite being heavily story-driventhank god. fuck off with this retarded storyfag shit interrupting gameplay every 5 mins like in diablo 3.
>>746418827>PoE 2 doesn't seem to have improved on anything Diablo 2 did, in many regards it seems to have gone backwardsThis anons completely right. As a newcomer I've gotten 2characters to act 3 and honestly don't really care enough to keep going on either of them. Would it have killed them to add ANY actual cutscenes to the game? If it's too much to make individual cutscenes for each character I get that, but shit they could have at least given major moments/bosses their own close up scene where they say or do something dramatic and then vaguely acknowledge the player as a fool/puppet/mere mortal/etc before the actual fight happens.Also the story is (so far) almost none existent. I'm chasing the beast, I caught up to the beast, and now he's blasting off again. It's bizarre considering how much effort was put into the world building and voice acting but the actual MAIN PLOT is clearly an afterthought excuse to make us go on a world tour. I know no one wants to hear me bring up a certain game, BUT I've spent an unhealthy amount of time playing ffxiv, which has god awful tab target gameplay in 2026, and the only thing that motivated me to play it was THE STORY. A good story can do alot to carry a game, particular a game thats presumably trying to draw in new players outside of the room clearing speedrun autist core fanbase. There's just alot of missing potential...
>>746418827literally like 90% of these "missing" features are missing in any ARPG lul, there isn't even a single game with half of these I'd say.And POE2 is definitely a twist, a riff, on the archetypal ARPG game, it's probably one of the most "different" playstyles to be in such a mainstream title, I wouldn't use PoE2 as a standard for the genre, PoE1 is way more traditional (despite the whole skill gem mechanic). D4 is like PoE1 "dipped in molasses", it's easier and smoother for sure but like candy, there's not a lot of sustenance there, same with D3. Grim Dawn is my pick for the truest D2 successor but it's not terribly challenging until the very late game (or if you don't yet understand resistances being so vital), it's more like a sandbox for goofy build ideas, if you enjoy that the most, then it's peak imo. Torchlight has too many flaws (so many terrible skills with limited respec, non-respawning mobs which can brick your character at endgame if you don't full-clear while on the other hand overlevelling early on), and Titan Quest is mid (1 is simultaneously smooth as bricks and a snoozefest, 2 feels like PoE2 at home).
>>746434809>and the only thing that motivated me to play it was THE STORYand thats all fine and dandy. you arent the target audience for games like poe 2. just accept it and move on with your life. making a game for everyone is the same as making it for no one.
>>746434982I mean ya, thats fair. BUT DAMN, they could have added some cutscenes, ANY would have been nice. Alright I'm done.
>>746433849this. fucking retard doesn't know it's only in 0.5
>>746435351I'd advise against the hurling of the stones out of the glass house. One does not simply advocate against faggotry while having a dick in his mouth.Or to put it on your intelligence level, the game will never be released. You stupid faggots will be lucky to get 1.0 in two years from now.
>>746435327despite all the money they make they only have a limited budget. I would rather have them spend that money on something else which would improve the gameplay experience. they arent blizzard who can just throw money around.
Fundamentally ARPGs are for >number-go-up>practically gambling with loot and crafting>the process of building a lightning fast room-clearing monster of a character (not being at that point, but the journey of getting closer to that via small incremental improvements), with bonus points for doing it in an unconventional waycutscenes and story are almost irrelevant to the genre, you might as well bitch that Tetris doesn't have them either. These games just aren't for that, Cowadoody doesn't have VN romance shit either, and it would hold back the main elements of the game if it had those. These games just aren't for you if you're looking for something outside of the core loop of blasting monsters and improving skills and gear.
>>746435624>These games just aren't for you if you're looking for something outside of the core loop of blasting monsters and improving skills and gear.Diablo 1 wasn't like this..neither was Sacred or Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance or other actually good ARPGs.
>>7464355561.0 is literally coming in 4 months, cool your jets homie.
>>746435691right. and I'll repeat myself for you, dense nigger. They promised a release in 2024, then 2025, now 2026. And they've been talking about the game (II) for 10 years now.Facts and history are not on your side. All you have are copium injections and a corporate dick in your mouth.
>>746435669People refer to diablo-likes as ARPGs but ARPG can also refer to games like TES and Gothic, I should've clarified I meant it in the diablo-like context.
>>746435669and neither of those hold any significance. diablo 2 did and it barely had any story outside of the few npcs which progressed the story through a few monologues.
>>746435873better story, music, voice acting, atmosphere, writing for a simple side quest. Better than 99.99% of all gaming for the past 70 years. A quest intro that is fondly remembered now, decades later.https://youtu.be/cPgm_4riquc?si=7ZmDKNXhM1IXoWVk&t=6
>>746435775It's literally fully playable in its current state, stop acting like its some kind of demo or something. It's a full fledged game at this point, just not final. Shut the fuck up.
>>746436282everyone plays these games for different reasons I guess. I have probably more than 10k+ hours into d2 over the past 2-3 decades and I dont even know the story nor did I ever bothered to read what the npcs had to stay. for the majority of people who are still playing it its all about pit runs, cs runs, baal runs etc. read a book if you want story, games are the wrong medium for that.
>>746436548it is funny how you are wrong about everything. You know nothing of game development, nor quality. Tis no wonder that a creature of your intelligence is only capable of endless repetition of a mindless tasks and is always mesmerized by any shiny object.Diablo II is one of the goats because of the things like a forgotten tower quest and in spite of imbeciles like yourself, not the other way around.
>>746436417>It's literally fully playable in its current statethis dogshit is vomit inducing which is objectively supported by the facts such as: more people are playing poo1 than poo2. Not to mention that the numbers of poo2 are those of a dead game anyway, considering it is multiplayer and online only.>stop acting like its some kind of demo or somethingnot acting like it is a demo. Much worse, in fact. I'm straight up saying that this dogshit will be dragged out forever, because this is the current businessmodel. To keep hamster goyim like yourself running in that wheel and paying 500$ every 3 month. Due to the absolute stellar retards like yourself, spouting this exact bullshit, there is no point in ever releasing 1.0. You will eat shit forever, because you love eating shit. And apparently there are enough of you to keep the game in a semi-alive state while generating profits, which is the end goal of any business.>It's a full fledged game at this point, just not final.lmao. not even close. it's alpha dogshit where the "devs" waste their time on "balancing and new content" instead of finishing the game. Because new content brings in money. A finished game won't bring any new players nor money in.>Shut the fuck up.now you sound like a chinese shill. Congrats, you have ruined a yet another IP that could have been something, with your simple milking business model. Not even evil, just stupid.
>watch trailer for poe2 1.0 swords>seems interesting>continue watching the reveal and gameplay explanation by the devs>fast forward to today>my entire YouTube feed is now these ecelebs and their faces talking poe2's new update and swords and leagueWhy is the Internet like this now?
>>746421756Fpbp>>746418827Cinematic faggot
>>746418827I'm thinking movie console games are more your speed.
>>746437870>Why is the Internet like this now?money. no other reason. money is also the reason the poe 2 hasn't been released and won't be released soon.
>>746437870Use incognito mode to tame your algorythm, retard.
Because the game itself and any gameplay isn't what they want or have going for it. The only thing PoE attracts are stat nerds who just want to look at stat windows of items and see numbers go bigger, they couldn't care less if they were playing a 8bit game or some fancy 3D game
>>746438064Very grim>>746438319Obviously that's a solution but the real lament is that something like "the algorithm" is even a thing. Its truly saddening to think about and makes you rethink life.
>>746438429time to create a text based number random lul goes up anyway game and cash in over 500$ for each purple exploison sprite.
>>746438064its being released in like 4 months dumbass
>No way to customize character's appearanceBecause D2 let you do this, right? Retard.
>>746438835read this>>746437240
>>746421756fpbp
>>746438845You could equip you characters with items socketed with gems and watch the palette get all glitched so they look like sour candy
>>746430359Damage on weapons eventually caps out. You need damage mods in the skill tree.Only way to progress beyond the few you get for your specialty is to adopt elements and spells you don't want.>t. plantfag who had to adopt lightning and is still mad about it
>>746438621Idk, my browser blocks youtube cookies so it's on a permanent blank state. It's better that way.
I enjoyed ruthless poe1 for a while, although it just becomes normal poe after act 6 or 7. Poe2 is too ez
I just got to Endgame, but is the new event is own league? It means I would have to restart, how the hell do people move through the campaign so fast?
>>746440147by gitting gud, lil gup
So duellist is coming with that next week's micro league or 1.0?
>>746440227No, wait until December.
>>746431398They basically full ported a bunch of mechanics to fool retards into thinking it was a completely new and interesting game. People who hadn't invested in poe1 are paying for poe1 leftovers and poe1 fans are pissed at getting recycled content with rollslop while the prefered game gets neglected
Convince me to reinstall this instead of just wait a few days for 5.5
>>746440757Winter orb
>>746421756Well the current ARPG gameplay just focuses on number go up speedclear skinnerbox elements where you put more focus on your other monitor.
they've been copy & pasting shitty poo1 leagues in to poo2 since like 0.2. it's part of how poo2 is being turned in to a zoomzoom game like poo1
>>746440356Yeah, I guess I'll take a break until then. My backlog is just too huge and I'm looking into game dev.
>>746440804The what? I'm out of the loop.
>>746418827>bunch of autistic shit nobody cares about
>>746441202You cared enough to post :^)
>>746424820I hate you so much it is unreal.
>>746441265Yeah, I care about PoE2.
>>746418827Why is 90% of whatever the fuck this schizobabbly just false
>>746418827>Thought it was going to be an indepth post about how the game that was supposed to elevate the genre's gameplay into something other than pressing one button for loot has abandoned it's entire design philosophy for press one button for loot>Instead is some inane shit, half about made up shit and half about moviegamesLife is tiresome, such as it is
>>746430550That's how you look.
>>746430550How was this supposed to be a failure exactly you schizophrenic faggot?It was supposed to be the best ARPG ever made and instead it's POO1-2
>>746434425Rolling becomes mire and more mandatory fir sprint unless you have a way to teleport
>>746418827what do you even do with diablo honestly. i think poe1 did really well with the core gameplay outside of minion mechanics but they really need to trim the fat with all the stupid league mechanics and streamline that shit. other than that the game just got optimized to fuck by nerds so every build is clear screen skill and kill boss skill and thats it. theres nothing else to do with diablo. the more convoluted and retarded you make it, the less fun it becomes. you turn off your brain and play the slot machine by killing lots of mobs. thats it. thats diablo. MAKE A NEW GAME INSTEAD OF CHEAP IMITATIONS OF OLD ONES YOU BRAINLESS UNINSPIRED LOSERS
>>746430550>why yes my game is absolutely terrible on all areas besides predatory addiction skinnerbox addiction mechanics>but you see, because it sells well, it means I am the good guy
>>746426908Terrible genre for braindead retards
If you follow a build guide, you didn't beat the game. You cheated your way through.
>>746441928poe 2 is the top arpg on the market, to think otherwise is pure delusion. Diablo 4 shit the bed after its expansion and lost all momentum with its terrible seasons.All the others are niche, including grim dawn and D2/D2r.
>>746440757I can't. All I'm doing is delve at this point. They keep fucking with the loot drops (and bullshitted that it's a part of the engine, when all they need to do is make more challenging content just drop more shit). The league mechanic is forgettable outside of the overpowered crafting you can do, and no one bothers with voyages outside of speed farming the sulphur, or getting lucky with a "rares drop divine" border hit. Most farming is done on scoured maps, outside of harvest farming. Beast farming, merc n go, alva gambling, sin/dex nightmare map boss rush, it's all on fucking scoured maps. Delve may as well be on scoured maps. The highest form of farming is targeted card farming, but you're straight up best off just shoveling for the materials for the highest form of farming as the most efficient form of currency flipping.
these viral marketing threads are boring, you do the same shit every day
How to identify an arpg genre tourist:>They need to remove some of the mechanics!>I hate that you can scale into a screen wide aoe explosion god!>The story/plot/cutscenes suck!We're in a fuckng arpg golden age. Poe1/poe2 have perfected the true no life play forever grindathon and drop insane content patches basically every quarter. Casuals have d4, grim dawn, last sleepoch. My literal only complaint is that there's no decent sci-fi arpg.
>>746443492>predatory addiction skinnerbox addiction mechanicsIn what way are loot focused games like these "predatory"? lmfaoIf path of exile was insidiously designed to keep people playing, why are both games designed around playing for a week or two each time a league releases and then quitting? The game directors have gone on record saying to quit when you get bored and come back next patch. It sells well because it's a good game.
>>746445214Don't forget campaign skip beggars.
>>746444916Oh yeah, absolutely, tencent shill. Nice delusions you got there.Poo 2 could not even beat the worst diablo ever made (d4) and a fucking single class expansion for a 26 year old game generated the kind revenue of revenue that poo 2 hasn't seen since the EA launch. And will never see again.But sure keep huffing that copium retard.Also, the koreans are coming out strong next year and their game has actual swords and actual monks. If nublizzard marginally improves upon their games, then poo 2 is done for. No will keep playing this retarded garbage.
>>746445503>>746441928blizztranny big mad
>>746445563Nice response tencent drone.I don't even like diablo except 2.Btw say hello to Pony Ma and tell him to fire troonathan before it is too late.
>>746445824least raped blizztroon
>>746445503>poo posteroh so you're just a huge fucking retard, carry on. You live in a fictional realm yet I'm deluded. I don't know why I'm arguing with someone who unironically enjoys kslop. You're probably a gacha enjoyer as well. Pathetic.
>>746445214>>746445495nice try, tencent. poo is excrement.
>>746445495Preach
>>7464455031 million concurrent on 1.0 launch is going to rape this posters mind
>>7464461361 million concurrent dicks in your mouth, shill
>>746446136He's already raped. He's the most raped faggot on 4chan.
>>746446156the raped
Obvious shill discord trannies getting upset that they can't shill the game in peace
>>746446206I don't play the second poo of excrement. I figured it out it is total fucking shite in 0.1
Reinstalled PoE1. Since when does it has gold and for what?
>>746421756He didnt list a single "movie game" thing at all, quit samefagging
>>746446437>>746446438d4 flopped btw
>>746446537And? Wait, you think I care about the same garbage fanboy shit that you do?
>>746446537did it? I didn't follow. I guess you're right, since myjeetissoft bought the blizzard out after the release.You retards don't know who I am. I never even looked at D4, lmao. But I did try to play the poo of excrement.
>>746444916The only top poo 2 is on, is the top of my shit list.Poo 2 is only relevant because there is no competition. It's like bragging you came in third when there are only three contestants.D2 was niche because it is a 26 year old game that did not receive any updates until recently. This is already changing.GGG shills have no idea how bad things really are.Competition is actually coming now tho, so GGG does not have the luxury of being actually incompetent, mouth breathing retards and get away with.All the good will of the playrbase has evaporated by this point. 1.0 will be a disappointment. Swords look retarded, flails, daggers and axes will also be retarded when they come, while troonathan will keep piling up the most Godawful idiotic mechanics known to man, in fine poo tradition.While at the same time, d2 and d4 will get more expansions, d5 will be announced at some point and I doubt it will be as bad as the fiasco d4 was, and other companies are coming out with games that finally have similar production values, but are not designed by absolute morons.I would tell you to do the math, but I know it is beyond your capabilities.So let me tell you that in a couple of years time, we will be in a similar thread except the title will be: Why nobody remembers poo 2 or something cheeky like that.
>>746446702>>746446837damage control cope
>>746445906What kslop you oblivious moron ?I am talking about the new game that got announced in gamescom. But what can anyone expect from sub human poo fans.
>>746447020what are you even on about, nigger? this is a poo2 thread, we discuss the and shit on poo2. on its own merit even.
>>746446136Sure, just come back after two weeks when it will be sub 20k again and cope that everyone is playing on GGG launcher and we will all laugh at you.
notice how there are organic POE threads on /v/ every day while dilator 4 can't even sustain a general on /vg/big yikes!
>>746447218what does it have to do with poo2 being shit? off-topic much?
>>746446174Nice projection colossal faggot tranny.Is that your fantasy ? to be the most raped faggot here ?Do you fantasize about being gangbanged by aids niggers as you write that about others ?We know you do so, you are definitely playing the right game tranny.
>>746447278>instant blizztard seethe
>>746445503Why would you post claims that can be disproven with a google search?
>>746447327you're deranged>>746447441picrel. top kek.
>>746447218Yeah, absolutely 100% ogranic, for sure.No, corporate shilling whatsoever.The fact the 1.0 was just announced and gamescom is still going are just big coincidences.I know that one must have some serious mental problems in order to enjoy poe games, but this is just embarrassing.
Ruthless mode when.
>>746447591You have absolutely no reason to get mad at that post unless you are a trooned out Blizzbuck
>>746447586>1w in a seasonal gameWhat point are you trying to make with that pic?
>>746437870They unironically want you to be an unemployed neet that is permanently watching videosAlgorithms for that reason aggressively become what you Google and recently watch, in hopes you stick around for more advertisement revenue
>>746447738that two years after the fucking release people still prefer poo1 bullshit reharshed mind numbing shit league over poo2.
>>746447857Poe 1 and Poe 2 leagues are staggered time-wise.So you can finish all the content in the league of one game by the time the new league for the other game comes out.
>>746447441What exactly can you disprove from that post with a google search ?Poo 2 could not beat d4 despite blizzard doing everything in their power to produce the most absolute dogshit arpg ever made. That is fact.Troonathan himself was pretending like they are not watching what AAA is doing and crap like, a few interviews back before trying to avoid D4 expansion release by delaying his shitty league.That is how little faith they have in their own product.The rest are simple facts. D2 is becoming more and more relevant after warlock and a new actually good korean, single player arpg is coming next year.What are you gonna disprove with a google search bozo?
>>746448026>Poo 2 could not beat d4By what metric?
>D2 is becoming more and more relevantblizzogs hallucinating real hard ITT
>>746448008I'm fully aware. That wasn't my point. I'm saying that some people play poo1 and apparently enjoy it. Over poo2. You told the random anon, that the iinterested people have in upcoming games, whatever they are, and much more importantly, the older beloved games getting new content, such as Diablo II can be easily disproven with a google search. You are high on copium. Poo doesn't have the constant playerbase to create waves. Poo is a niche game, instead of anything remotely mainstream like DII ever was. Times are different. Not even 25kk or whatever DII sold are impresive in 2026. Adjusted for year, amount of gamers, etc, etc, 20k players is pretty much a dead game. Especially an always online, multiplayer title. But it is fun to shit on it. Poo II could have been so much better, but niGGGers have failed so hard.
>>746448079By the metric that every other post in this sorry thread is accusing random people of being blizzdrones and blizzcucks.It is literally beyond pathetic and obsessive by this point.Poo 2 shills are actually mindbroken by a game that not even diablo fans actually like.And they are still using it as their only defense. It is sad really.
>>746448264Start of the previous league player number hit 420k.Also I play SSF, so concurrent players are irrelevant to me.
>>746448108You scared GGG fuckboy ?You should.
>>746448476I mean you talk like a middleschooler, so the insults are spot on.
>>746448476Mad blizztroon lol
>>746447676What I have no reason to do, is listen to the arbitrary nonsense you spout.I am not getting mad at your posts.I am amused by how desperate and delusional you are because pretty soon you know you will either have to find a new job or a new game to shill, and all your hard work in troonathans skinnerbox will be absolutely invalidated because nobody will care anymore about this sorry ass game.
>>746446879I can see it crash and burn for sure. Even the most die-hard cock suckers won't suck up a twenty hour campaign more than twice or so. If they run more than one character per leaghet, they are about to burn out at the speed of light and will drop it for good. PoE 1 had the benefit of being short and nerds repeating retarded chance ad infinitum to the point of believing in outright lies. PoE 2 won't have that.
>>746448480I'm not counting paid players (streamers, youtubers, etc,) and farmer bots as legit players. Were they legit the number wouldn't fall off after a week every time. those do not count as real players.counter-strike II for example maintants around 800k to a million without leagues, whatsoever.Also yes, poo(2) should have been primarily a single player offline game and open modding. It would attract more people to it that way. It's easy to think of a simple list of 5 to 10 things that will improve poo2 immediately. Pretty much every online game, actually, but esp poo2. For example, remove rolling from the game. It's useless and makes the game worse.
>>746445403>it's just a good game
>>746448547> Y-You're a middle schooler.Amazing comeback, you addressed the point spot on.You are pathetic.
>>746448835didnt read u mad
>>746448936>I'm not counting paid playersYeah, I bet 200k of those people are streamers.Retard.
>>746448980If you start talking like an adtult, people may argue with you kiddo.
D4 dilators getting gaped to death ITT
>>746449057you will be surprised by the amount of content creators and watchers who follow them in the game are indeed in the tens of thousands. once the streamer stops, his viewers also stop. because they follow him into the next game.
>>746448561>Mad blizztroon lolSeriously, tell your supervisors to give you guys more material, this is getting boring.
>>746449130Still haven't addressed the point. I treat you as you should be treated, and this is how you deserve to be treated.Stay mad.
>>746448936>not counting... farmer bots>using CS2 as an example of organic player count
>>746449209someone says blizztroon and you get upsetover target
>>746449196Looks more like you have nothing in life but grinding temporary pixel, faggot. Lmao
>>746449310You don't have a point and the way you argue is beyond childish.The only one being mad, is the tantrum thrower: (You).
>>746449037Here let me post an image so you can understand it then my retarded friend.
>>746449390I'm not familiar with the bots in counter-strike II. I've never even played counter-strike II, but I do believe that they have a shitload of players. counter strike always did, ever since it was a mod in half-life. but enough about it, you can look at good newly released games, who are one and done offline games, such as palworld, who maintan 200k+ for weeks without any new content.
>>746449409So you admit you're a blizzshill
>>746449521I accept your concession.
>>746449412Are you creating imaginary scenarios in your head ?Do you honestly believe I am rolling on the floor right now or something, when you literally cannot refute any of my points ?Just stop posting anon you are embarrassing yourself, it is not healthy.
>>746449397Are you getting paid by how many times you post blizztroon or other blizzard related words ?Genuinely curious at this point.
>>746449681You are literally talking about fecal matter in more than half of your post.No calm and collected adult does that.
>>746449782>>746449630D4 flopped.
>>746449849I am speaking in terms your infantile mind can understand.That is a (You) problem.
>>746449965Anon pleas, don't pretend you are smarter than everybody else.You have already proven the opposite.
>>746444982>no one bothers with voyages outside of speed farming the sulphur, or getting lucky with a "rares drop divine" border hitI loved voyages because as a newfag (this was the newfag league after all considering the gem link change) I didn't have to clear the Atlas or spec into a proper tree, or clear juiced content, or look up specific strategies to make money to start off with. I just slammed charts and then slammed the voyages that came from them, died about once ever, and when I ran out of charts went back to progressing the Atlas. And I was rich enough just from that that I managed to buy my first ever HH (haven't had one yet in 500+ hours of PoE2), then went even further beyond and bought my first ever MB as well before I dropped the league at 36/40. I can understand calling it boring, but saying it's forgettable and unprofitable is just not true.
>>746418827I replayed Diablo 2 recently and the endgame is ass. It's a campaign game. PoE2's endgame is decent while its campaign is meh (although I really liked the New Zealand islands whatever the fuck they're called).
>>746450074I don't need to pretend my illiterate friend that pretends to deserve better.Distracting and moving the conversation elsewhere when you cannot provide any arguments does not help you win anything or make you look good.You are still a pathetic retard with a huge ego that cannot admit defeat.Now stop replying to me.
>>746450394As you wish. You've dried up as a lolcow anyway.
d4 dilator status: [gaped]
>>746446837What?Microsoft bought Lizzard with Activision a full year before D4 released, after several years of managing the acquisitionWhat?
>>746449517>offline gamesWill trail off over time and won't have the large recurring bump in user count seasonal online games do. Also, GGG doesn't need people playing the game for an entire league, they sell most of their supporter packs at the start of a league.>CS2Cases can be worth real money, can be farmed by effectively AFKing, free to play. Yes, it's utterly infested by bots.
>>746450687Nah it happened after release
>>746450591>Y-You a lolcow.I honestly think you should get some professional therapy. You are clearly suffering from some kind of narcissistic disorder and I am not even kidding.Then again this 4chan what can one expect.Anyways, good luck out there, you are gonna need it.
>>746450749>supporter packsmost jewish goyslug thing you could possibly entertain is to buy a "supporter pack"
>>746450801Why lie about something you can just check fucking retarded animal?
>>746450918D4 released June 2023 and Microsoft purchased Activision Blizzard in October 2023Uhoh, tranny gonna have a lil melty
>>746426908It's a problem with the genre as a whole. People don't want to play a character fighting enemies. They want to play a character spamming spells the size of the screen kiling things that look like enemies but ultimately pose no threat to yourself and might as well be mannequins made of paper. Anything less than that is too slow for their ADHD brains.
Why do these threads and MMO threads bring out the most obnoxious pseuds on this website? Is this just a Blizztroon thing?
>>746450749>Will trail off over timeDII did not. 25+ years later, people are still playing it. And DII is not the only one. I love replaying old titles from gog. This year I've replayed RTCW and Stronghold got a lot of enjoyment out of it. Games are just as good as I remember without any bullshit leagues/patches/balances/whatsoever.>won't have the large recurring bump in user count seasonal online games do.this means that the game is destined to die sooner or later. this is a bad business model. it might seem ok in the moment. But will anyone be able to replay the current league in 25 years from now? Just a sad state of gaming affairs.Offline games, even without a modding scene, are wholly superior. And the industry will come around eventually. Which reminded me, ironically of Skyrim, which I'm not a fan of. Doesn't Skyrim player count is higher than the player count of Poe? How sad is that?>cs2 shenanigansplausible, I'm not informed on it. as stated, pick any other popular game, online or offline. even the shitty Skyrim.>>746450687I don't rememeber. And it doesn't really matter, actually.
this thread is the type of shit poejeet viral marketers spam this board with constantlyimagine being a stinky brownoid subhuman and having to feed your village by doing this
>league start>pick some class and ascendancy play style I haven't done yet>finish campaign and interludes>start getting burned out/bored >pick another interesting ascendancy/build combo>finish campaign and interludes>start getting burned out/bored >pick another interesting ascendancy/build combo>rinse repeat until next league/update
>>746451801Aww is wittle d4 baby upset :(( boo hoo :(
jeet viral marketer forgot to deny! just pull up the d4/blizzard script and deflectthey make those things as simple as possible because they know how stupid you are
>>746452308cry to your supervisor about it
>>746452385>saar I would like to speak to your supervisor saarKEK
>>746451814T16 and beating the Arbiter of Divitinity should be the bare minimum. Is /v/ really this full of casuals?No wonder why they hate this game for no reason so much.
>>746452578I don't know what that means and I don't care this is how I have fun with the game
>>746428969martial artist is super fun and hollow form is exclusive to it
>>746418827How about naming a better ARPG then? You can't? I figured as much.
>>746452578>the Arbiter of Divitinitythey should've named a boss the Arbiter of correct opinions, using a model of an autistic fat poe enjoyer.
>>746452818still not stronger than a gemling and cyclones get really boring like spark stormweavers in earlier builds
>>746450817if we could see your post count in this thread your therapy remark would be beyond ironic. That other anon calling your posts childish are spot on, you're so obvious.
>>746452856You sound upset.
>>746453003by making a joke? you should really take an autism test, anon, I'm not even joking this time.
>>746453058Very upset.
>>746421756fippy bippy
>>746453058poe cultists are notoriously thin skinned
>>746452006Nigger, not a single person in this thread has defended D4.>>746452578That's a pretty trivial bar to clear in trade league, anon... maybe that's your point though.
>I'm not even kidding>I'm not even jokinghe's so mad, every post is literally dripping with seethe.
>>746452874it's not like you need to be extremely strong to dogwalk the game all the pinnacle bosses are easily killed with budget setups. hopefully 1.0 adds ubers or some kind of way to scale bosses up power wise because right now it's just too easy if you have even half of an idea of how to build
>>746453140You get mad at every single post that laughs at D4. You are absolutely a butthurt blizzbuck seething at better games.
>>746453224And yet most of this board gets filtered and filtered hard
>>746453140this guy is >>746448026 even though he's still calling it shit to avoid making his true feelings known
>>746452886Yes I wish we could have IDs like pol or something, because I've seen many retards replying to different posters thinking it was me.Goes to show how low IQ you people actually are.The only things you know how to do is to call people blizzard derivative insults and move the goalposts or desperately try to change the matter when you have no proper arguments to make other than poe2 good, everything else bad.Also is the poo 2 joke that makes you so mad? Lol, are you a dev?Learn to design morons, all the shit related jokes are appropriate and deserved for this turd.You do not have the right to be treated with any modicum of respect.
>>746453405eh you're being too generous I doubt most have even played most here just lash out for attention and use videogames as the conduit for that lashing out.
>>746453607nta but you'd be shocked. every single league over on /vg/ there are poe1 players that seethe about poe2 and if you prod them enough you'll find out they get filtered and hardstuck by random bosses in the campaign lolliterally every league i'm not exaggerating
>>746453392I'm not defending D4, you retard. As someone who has actually played it recently, the game is schizophrenic as fuck. They flipped from D3-tier drop rates to people not seeing an iconic mythic in hundreds of boss keys, and scaling in late endgame is based on slamming almost good items in the cube for 20 minutes in some of the worst UX I've ever seen in a crafting system followed by a single slam to hit a .1% roll. The "D4 bad" meme spam doesn't do justice to how bad D4 actually is.
>>746453903Also the game flopped and is extremely inferior to its main competitor Path of Exile (the first game, POE2 doesn't even acknowledge it)
You have to go back
>>746453971poo is utter fucking garbage. Skyrim has more players than poo.
>>746453435What triggered you ? That troonathan delayed league to avoid the D4 expansion?You think this is defending d4 ? This is just facts.D4 is abysmal and is barely a game, that does not mean that path of excrement is in any way good. In fact it is a testament to how bad it is that it could not even erase the shittiest diablo ever made from relevancy. That is how awful GGG fucked up here. And no matter how much you deflect or how many times you call people blizzard related insults, that will not change.And to avoid any confusion, I wrote that post.
>>746453796yeah I can see that for /vg/, they're shitters but at least they try to play vidya. the only game most people here play is twitter on mobile
>>746453491there are multiple people making fun of you. It's funny that you mention other anons replying to posts thinking they're you and then assuming I've made a single post mentioning blizzard.Everyone else is low IQ but you're the only one who can't stop talking about poop. This game must have mindbroken you given how invested you are in seeing it fail. Go back to the general and wait for your fabled korean game that will totally bury poe 2 and not flop like all the others.
>>746453796Sad
>>746418827Buy an ad nigger
>>746435873>Diablo 1>no significanceD2 wouldn't even exist without it you fucking faggot.
>>746454038And off falls the mask. Dilate, blizztranny.
>>746454094You can barely tank it if you wear real armor that reduces damage instead of that evasion meme gear
>>746453971Fuck you poo culistist, we will not fit into your d4 vs poo2 narrative.You will not damage control your way out of this. Your game is becoming increasingly irrelevant and your company will be shuttered and sold eventually, just because of the idiotic "vision" of one moron.This will not change no matter what you do or say.
>>746454118why when you'll bump this for free?
>>746453971>the game floppedGod I fucking wish. The lobotomites on Blizzard's launcher actually play that trash.
>>746454281Uh oh dilator melty!
>>746418827Diablo 3 wasn't innovative at all, so stop praising that garbage, faggot.
>>746435624This is why Diablo 2 is shit and completely fucked the genre up. In the genre's infancy all of that was in service to dungeon crawling and built with dungeon crawling in mind, because it was hewing close to roguelikes. In D2, the dungeon crawling is built in service to the loot and character building.
>>746454094unironically what the fuck was he supposed to even do here? Nice rollslop that isn't even designed for rolling fagggots
>>746454269Skyrim was made by Bethesda, you shilling retard.>>746454281niGGGers have already failed so bad, that chinese have bought them out. Now chinese are simply milking poo like a mobile game. lol.
This image migrated an entire streamer siscord
>>746454392literally just run out of the way. rolling temporarily slows you down, so spamming roll is what killed him
>>746454392you can sprint around the arena which is far faster than the boss can keep up with, or stun them. Or stack fire res. Or kill them faster.
>>746454392Save the roll for when you actually need a short burst of distance, instead of being a DS3retard and spamming them.
>>746454424Seethe and cope, d4troon. You lost. You don't even have a general to cry in.
>>746454649keep revealing yourself as a brainless shill, you're doing a great job at it. pray your bosses won't fire you for fucking the marketing up.
>>746454392>unironically what the fuck was he supposed to even do here? Nice rollslopHe rolled for no reason, retard. Just run away.
>>746454712people will complain that poe2 is roll slop and has no positioning, die to a boss that requires the most basic kind of positioning ever (move away from attack) and still blame the rolls.
Huntress is very cute and very fun
>>746454094Why is he just rolling around for no reason.This is why I hate /v/ so much always talking shit about games when it turns out that you're the ones who are shit at them.
>>746454840needs larger boobs. all the characters in poo need way larger booba.
I’ve never seen a game get so many threads on /v/ that are full of a handful of obvious shills. Very inorganic, not to mention it always happens when there’s some release or event coming up and then disappears.Removing unique IP counts from /v/ was a mistake, unless the point was to make marketing operations less visible in which case I guess it worked.
that engineer boss is funny. the instant he starts swinging that grenade-lantern around you run your ass around in a circle to kite him, the grenade blows up in his hand after like 15 seconds of chasing you and resume poundingsometimes if you're not paying attention he'll bop you and it's just FRAAAAG
>>746454778It's especially funny because the endgame bosses don't require any rolls at all since they were obviously designed before the game became like this. The game is fully playable without them and they're really just an extra for less experienced players so they can make up for their mediocre builds with skill.
>>746454840I gotta try like an actual javelin build I've only done BEEG MONKEY and while it was strong, it was kind of boring. rolling auras on the beasts also was tedious as fuck
>>746454952what makes you think people here are paid shills exactly
calling everyone who disagrees with you a shill just goes to show that you have nothing of substance to say and your posts can be safely ignored
>>746454958>he
>>746454952>the point was to make marketing operations less visiblevery plausible. to the point of being obvious. How many retarded shilling campaigns did we see over the past years? the bg3 and the expedition 33, and now the gta 6 are the most obvious shilling campaigns ever. I just use filters on /v/ now. Most recently shilled dogshit game is always filtered.
>>746455089poo of excrement is a gabrage dead game that has less players than Skyrim. Facts.
>>746454990>It's especially funny because the endgame bosses don't require any rolls at all since they were obviously designed before the game became like this.Arbiter?
>>746455179>the bg3>the exp 33>the gta 6yes saar the games are being the redeemed very inorganically very much shill very dogshit
>>746455253Where exactly? I'm trying to think of something that would require rolling, but I can't.
People really get angry when you disagree with poe. These fucking faggots are addicted and have put thousands of hours and dollars into the game. A shame if that goes down the drain.
>>746455315look /v/, I've even found the employee of a bot farm that is hired to shill and astroturf dogshit games on 4chan. they can't be more obvious.
>even Grim Dawn turned into rollslopWhy are devs so fucking retarded?
>>746455462you're so cute ESL-kun
>>746455354His scripted attacksUnless people kill him before he even gets to do them
>>746455508Your fault for slurping FROM so hard. Shame on you.
>>746454082The fact that you are triggered specifically by poo means that it is actually you, and you have some kind of personal vested interest in the game which makes you even more pathetic and sad in turn.Also I do not assume anything, and never said that you specifically said anything about blizzard. However, blizzard insults are a staple of poo cultists that are in damage control mode and that is undeniable.As for the "multiple" people who are making fun of me, it is audacious to even saying something like that since you are not even able to distinguish between me and other posters unless I trigger you with the poo word.Do you want me to get mad and feel offended because sub humans like you pretend that they have the ability to mock me?It's like getting mad because the most ridiculous clowns (covered in poo 2 btw) are trying their damnest to make others look bad.Don't throw stones from ridiculous glass houses poo 2 dev, you cannot afford to rebuild them and you will need your money since you will be fired soon.
>>746455620EFL. you lack the brainpower to learn one, not sure what you're trying to brag about, shill
Did people actually find the poe2 bosses hard?
>>746454269AHAHAHAHAHNot him btw.I haven't even played or cared for skyrim in decades.You are so mad and pathetic, it made this thread actually entertaining.Desperate morons.
>>746455795yeah during 0.1 a ton of people got filtered. Now most bosses fall over if you sneeze at them, but I'd say the majority of people on /v/ who gave it a try quit after 0.1
>>746455885Not seething btw
>>746455641Which one, exactly? I really don't think there's anything that necessarily requires roll since there's passive that disables it.
>>746455087is someone going to answer this or are you guys just going to keep seething at each other
>>746454354Uh oh, the poo cultists are crashing out.Are you gonna be ok buddy?
>>746455795not at all. but the design philosophy of modern video games is horseshit. I'm specifically referring to the artificial one time obstacles, in form of a boss too, that become utterly trivial after you beat them even once, because of a power boost you get. Labyrinth and Ascensions in poo games are a perfect example. A beginner can't beat the labyrith at early levels, because the character lacks power and is weaker on purpose (assuming no overleveling), but after the ascension, that same difficulty becomes completely trivial.The issue with this horseshit design is that there is nothing to strive for. I don't need to get more powerful after I've beaten the obstacle. I need to gain power before the obstacle, so that the power of the character is on par, not artificially inferior.And what do I do with the new power after beating it anyway? Never beat that trivial shit again, because it doesn't drop anything of value anyway? Such a retarded ass design.
>>746455795
>>746454649Still not me btw.Nice track record. Keep going subhuman poo 2 eaters.
>>746455885he doesn't know, anon, but you and I do. poo defenders being braindead is very funny indeed.
>>746456204>>746456103>>746455885D4 flopped and you're upset.
>>746455940>but I'd say the majority of people on /v/ who gave it a try quit after 0.1This
>>746456103>shartychildWell that explains a lot
Wow they actually FINALLY put swords in the game?
>>746456280No arguments there, D4 did not just flopped, it crashed and burned.However, I am actually laughing at you and how your brain has crashed because it cannot comprehend how can someone dislike the Dflop and poo 2 at the same time.Take deep breaths anon, it will pass eventually.
>>746456496ahahahahahaha. no. no. of course not. niGGGers have promised, this time for sure, obivously, that the swords will come with the 1.0 release. Assuming the suckers of corporate dick will pay more for cosmetics, of course, so that the game is not cancelled before 1.0, which will probably released in two years from now, maybe. it is 0.5 still got at least 4 versions to go.
>>746456120what the fuck are you even trying to say, you fucking schizo?>A beginner can't beat the labyrith at early levelsYou can beat every lab or trial as soon as you make it to them.>I don't need to get more powerful after I've beaten the obstacle.Trials are bad because the boss at the end becomes easier after you ascend? What?>And what do I do with the new power after beating it anyway?They're subclasses, there's an entire rest of the game to use them in which is balanced around you using one.I don't even know how to reply to the rest of this retarded ass post. It's mind numbing on so many levels.
>>746456575>D4 did not just flopped, it crashed and burned.Source?
>>746456416>N-No youI'm sure you can do better.You guys are the poo 2 eating cultists, the other guys are the blizztrannies etc. Don't ruin the narrative, think a better comeback.
>>746456657I don't know, ask that >>746456280 guy.
Fair fair please go play something else
>>746456776So you're making shit up.
>>746456692>he doesn't even know what a shartychild is or why i called him thatholy fucking newfag
>>746456652>You can beat every lab or trial as soon as you make it to them.no. A beginner can't. Esp. without a normal build. People overlevel and the lab becomes somewhat trivial. That is how new players beat it.>Trials are bad because the boss at the end becomes easier after you ascend? What?yes. Because there is no need to gain power after you've already beaten everything in the game.>here's an entire rest of the game to use them in which is balanced around you using one.you mean the pointless hunt for some pixels that are supposed to represent some sort of an item? there is no more game after you get levels + ascensions. that's the entire game.>I don't even know how to reply to the rest of this retarded ass post. >It's mind numbing on so many levels.yes. because that's the design of the game. what you have read is the very design of the game broken down. the mind numbing, the stupid, the retarded, and the schizo is the design of the game. not me.
>>746456629Swords are a mismash of huntress, monk and warrior skills, with WW on top.Two years later I still cannot believe that the 4chan leak was right.
>>746456832Here's an actual blizzdrone poo 2 guys, mock him.
I really like 0.1. Felt like I was actually playing a video game. And so did everyone else apparantly because the game exploded in popularity because of difficultyIs it true they turned the game into poo1 zoomslop?
>>746456841>How dare you be ignorant of my inane, schizo-psychobabble I just made up.Deep breaths anon, deep breaths, it will pass.And don't forget your meds.
>>746455087>>746456053hello? you guys love to post nonstop and argue and talk about shills but you're ignoring these posts for some reason
>>746457234Like fucking clockwork.If poo 2 vs blizztrannies fails then initiate poo 1 players ruined poo 2 narrative.I am not even replying to a person at this point am I, your are all chatgpt aren't you.
>>746457234YesAnd yes
>>746429845The OP was comparing to the Blizzard games though...
>>746454094That boss was way harder in the first version. That has to be an old webm, even with a sorcerer he can't onehit you.
>>746457531I already know poo players are all schizoautistic. You dont have to convince me twice with your bablbe
>>746457458Why are not ignoring it, but what answer do you expect.It's like someone asking 'why do people think that a secret elite rules the world' in a conspiracy forum.What answer do you expect? Do you honestly think that companies do not pay other PR companies for viral marketing services, or that all these morons here genuinely believe that poo 2 is a good game, or that jewtubers genuinely enjoy playing GGGslop for free.I mean how old are you anon and what kind of answer do you expect really?
>>746457531But I hate poo 1 and 2.I believe that they literally should not exist.If I had a fucking genie my first two wishes would be to erase these two games from existence.
>>746457859>jews run the world therefore path of exile has shills on /v/sound logic. anyways, can you answer my question and tell me what makes you think there are shills here? what evidence do you have of that?
>>746457007>Because there is no need to gain power after you've already beaten everything in the gameso like every game on the planet? If you're only ascending after you've cleared all other content you're doing something severely wrong. They're not designed to be very difficult. You should have 3/4 labs (poe 1) or trials (poe 2) done before you're finished the campaign and your fourth well before red maps.>you mean the pointless hunt for some pixels that are supposed to represent some sort of an item? now you're just being derivative. You don't like the game but that's not the games fault. Still don't know what you're trying to say. You could have said poe bad and it would have made more sense than the word vomit you're posting
>>746457234introducing annoying bullshit and dogshit mechanics is not difficulty. they were really fast to fix their bullshit after streamers have cried about it. I remember the day 1 hysteria about not being able to roll through the enemies. it's documented on youtube too.Also, dragging content out with needlessly huge areas is not difficult, just time wasting and fucking retarded. Which also was changed. Act II was and still utter horseshit anyway. So is ACT III. So is the game, actually.658728208208 currencies. Retarded "skill tree" filled with +5 stat, +1% movement speed, and +2% damage nodes, instead of actual skills. Player in good games gain +5 stat and +damage boost automatically on level up.niGGGers have not only failed game design, they have failed basic software design lessons. bunch of incompetent losers.TL;DR: Needlessly dragging out and trying to overcomplicate shit (worst skill tree in gaming) is retarded and make game poo of excrement. KISS principle is ignored.
>>746458037That was mean as a reply for that >>746457661btw.
>>746458092damn bro got filtered by a large skill tree and a few currencies he had to read. Sad.
>>746458051Oh, my bad anon. I thought your question was genuine.Carry on poo 2 shill.
>>746458342so asking you questions makes me a shill? what makes you think i like poe?
>>746458326>Damn bro, filtered by dogshit useless, pointless mechanics that are unfun and make zero sense, as well as fake made up currency whose only purpose is to pad the game and make everything harder and more annoying.And then you take offense when people call you poo eaters and your shitty game poo 2.
>>746458092>worst skill tree in gamingthis honestly doesnt get brought up enough. They try to sell it to you as "le infinite possibilities" but in reality its anything but. Some chink makes a build simulation and it turns out drawing a random swastika in talent nodes gives you +10000% damage. Devs balance the game around that. Trying to buildcraft yourself is just going to brick your character
>>746458584Asking questions? No.Pretending like you don't understand though, yes it absolutely does.
>>746458092when you simplify the shit you're complaining about, you literally get D4. >>746458596The supposed "useless and pointless" mechanics you're going on about are what make path of exile so popular. You can throw your little tantrums but it doesn't change a thing. They make sense to everyone else, maybe you're just a little retarded?
>>746458775what am i pretending to not understand?
>>746458776Both games are the same disaster anon.They have both gone full retard just in opposite directions.Between the endless idiotic mechanics and useless currencies that exist only to sell tabs of poo 2 and the smoothest of smooth brain, barely a game, existence of D4, there is an entire world were actual games can and do exist.
>>746458092Filtered
>>746458836No.Going to play zero company now, it is more fun than going in circles with you.Good luck at finding your next job now that GGG is going bankrupt.
>>7464591782 more weeks
>>746458080>so like every game on the planet?not even close. Every games on the planet gives you a tool and then ntroduces a new enemy/obstacle during the level or whatever. Every single good game ever. FPS, RPG, Strategy. You get a new building and units - fight more powerful bases. You get a new weapon in FPS, you get introduced to a harder cock demon as a regular enemy or whatever. And so on.Only shit retardation like poo first makes you beat a harder enemy and then rewards you for it with a new weapon, that you don't need anymore. Uber lab first time, 4th ascencion in poo2 are the prime examples of it. utterly fucking retarded.>now you're just being derivative. You don't like the game but that's not the games fault.I play SSF. I don't need shit to trade. But most importantly, there is no correct way to play an ARPG. Beating everything once is more than enough for a playthrough. Very few autists actually sit and farm manually. Most dedicated use bots to farm. Majority moves onto other, fun games, in order to beat them too. Almost nobody is wasting thousands of hours to farm some rare item with perfect rolls. It is fucking pointless, worse, it's a waste of life too. Life is limited, so play many more and better games.>Still don't know what you're trying to say.Consult the picrel graphic.
>>746458642It used to be, but people who actually argued in good faith were being constantly attacked by poo 2 cultists and they simply stopped caring.It is in fact one of the best example of most egregious game design and what is wrong with the poe games in general.
>>746459178>ask simple questions>you seethe and call me a shilllol
>poo2
>>746459349That's cool and all. Do you have any good build advice on classes?Just unlocked the second class upgrade and I wonder which combos are better.
>>746459531idk i don't play poe i think it sucks. anyways can you tell me why you think there are shills in this thread? since you're still here after claiming you were going to leave and stop replying.
>>746459664No I am talking about star wars zero company.Who cares about poe and shills.
>>746459178>GGG is going bankrupt.they just made half a billion from the poe 2 launch
>>746459847i don't play gay star wars shit either. what, do you think i'm a faggot or something? ew dude
>>746459335tell em sister. Having multiple paths is way too confusing for me. I need one straight line or it's way too complicated
>>746459948Agreed about star wars, I only play zero company because it is an xcom like.Oh well, figured I might ask before I go, just in case.
>>746460001Get that gay, tranny stuff away from, pervert.I don't know what you are trying to say here and I am definitely not your sister faggot.
>>746460001>t. disingenious shit eater
>>746459923Yes and most of it went to their chinese overlords.Everything is getting expensive anon and poo 2 is only doing worse and worse.1.0 is their last chance and I guarantee you it will not even be half as successful as EA launch was revenue wise.
>>746460268they made half a billion dollars from poe2 and it isn't even out of early access and tencent is worth half a trillion dollars. what the fuck would make you think they are going to go bankrupt?
>>746460471stfu you ggg dickriding bootlicker
>>746460268can I have what you're huffing because you're in an entirely different dimension from reality
>>746418827>>No way to customize character's appearanceyou gear IS your appearance. at least in PoE2 the basic stuff looks fine, if you play PoE1 as a templar and have no MTX gear there's a very real chance that you'll play the entire game with no pants on
dec 11th is going to be an absolutely devastating day for the "ggg is going bankrupt in 2 weeks" posters lol
>>746460662they've went on record saying they made back their entire development budget just from 0.1 early access keys. I honestly don't get what this guy is trying to accomplish.
>>746418827Good thing for you 1.0 is decade(s) away
>>746460556kek
>>746460471I don't mean Tencent will go bankrupt.GGG needs to pay a certain high amount to Tencent every year.During the first year they did that easily.However, revenue has crashed since then, and year two does not look good. Why do you think they sped up the release of 1.0 and they are releasing the first mini league in the history of both games.The launch of 1.0 will hopefully allow them to make this year's payment. After that, everyone knows that it is all downhill from there.
>>746461195>Why do you think they sped up the release of 1.0 and they are releasing the first mini league in the history of both games.They've released mini-leagues for years and years larp-anon
>>746460573You are already huffing that corpo propaganda kush and you probably think that poe 2 is the best arpg on the market right now.Don't know what to tell you other that don't over invest in that garbage.Tencent is already hedging their bets with Krafton and that new Korean arpg coming next year.
>>746461195I want to see your excuses for ggg making tencents supposed blood money payments in years 3 and 4.
>>746461378You will be too busy looking for your next employer tho shill-kun.
is lost ark worth trying?
>>746461753nta. where is the info coming from? a quick search shows apparently, allegedly, good financial reports.
>>746461353Poe 1 events are not mini leagues you disingenuous moron.
>>746461808no. out of all the games, la is the one you should not play now. unless you will be playing on korean servers. because unlike most arpgs, the lost ark is actually more mmo like and you will need more players to do content bosses with and more bots farming shit to make common stuff cheaper and more accessible. the game is dead in the west, nobody to play with.
>>746461862Yes good past reports, the year is not over yet.
>>746461897>Poe 1 events are not mini leaguesWhat's the distinction? They're both economy resets with a remix of the content available.
>>746418827>PoE 2 is supposed to be the cream of the genrelolpoe2 is for arpg tourists and diablo 4 refugees
im probably going verashta again for the event i dont see ggg not nerfing it for 1.0 the only problem is i have PTSD from minions allah akbaring in my hideout every second for the cast on minion ice nova set up for the fracturing
stand back, everyone, I'm biting>>746462028what is the more autismal arpg?
>>746461897they are, and they have been a thing since forever. https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Darkshrine_(event)>The Darkshrine leagues were two five-week events - the standard one and a hardcore version - that ran from November 2nd 2015 to December 7th 2015.
>>746462156d4 is the retard game for complete morons
>>746461957hence my question. short of inside information nobody can know atm. realistically.
>>746418827The game is fun until you realise it's just a total timesink and there is no reward at the end of the tunnel because they will eventually nerf everything when the season ends and you have to start over from nothing.
>>746462197you did not answer my question
poo 2 bangaloo
>ggg shills are crashing outLmao
>>746462313figure it out retard
>>746462348so, you're just shitposting. got it. I was really hoping, there are some more needlessly complex arpgs than poo.
call me when they add swords and proper animations for swords
>>746462415>couldn't figure it outspiritual d4 slopper
>>746462302there are rewards at the end of the tunnel, usually some kind of exclusive MTX for finishing the challenges of that league. and starting over every season is fine, it fits in perfectly with me because I like to try out different things frequently, and the league system enables that fantastically.
>>746462472>I'm retardedOkay then. I'll explain.Read this>>746462028>poe2 is for arpg touriststourists. got it? means it is very easy and casual compared to some mysterious existing arpg. my question was exactly that. which arpg is not for tourists? all I got in response is a sperg out from a fag with a diablo derangement syndrome. sad state of affairs.
>>746462647You know he's not going to answer you why are you wasting your time
What currently broken build that's going to be nerfed into the ground for 1.0 should I play for 0.5.5 before that happens?
>>746462715Make this a new thread
>>746462715Anything Gemling. Gemling twisters is the easiest and most braindead I guess.
>>746462823>>746462912
>>746462715I have a feeling hollow form whirling assault will see nerfs, same with the BEEG MONKEY
>>746462713maybe he will. only the schizo knows.
>>746462232Sure, unless you are analyst or something.
>>746463213He won't. You and I both know that
>>746462994Absolutely, they will.No way they stay the same.
