holy shit uncs I think he literally holocausted you
I played Skyrim and it was boring as fuck. No, I didn't install mods to fix it.
>>746452165He's right. I'd rather play Daggerfall than Morrowind.
>>746452165>holy shit uncs I think he literally holocausted youIt's true, he did literally nothing to us.
>>746452165>I think(You) don't THOUGH
Oblivion is more unplayable today because of all the oblivion gates and shitty level scaling mechanics. >but morrowind has you level up for just breathingjust like in real life, you professional breather
Elder scrolls always sucked Always will
>>746452165Any designer recognizes Morrowind's flaws
>>746452165>Januaryslow news day?
>>746452583kek
>>746452165I played some of Morrowind back in the day when it came out and i couldn't get into it. Systems, mechanics, combat was more or less standard and fine but i really, REALLY hated the world and setting. This barren ashland, no trees, mushrooms were a running theme and i just can not enjoy that. I'd rather spend ten thousand hours in a woods/castles/caves/mountains medieval fantasy europe than one hour in this weird alien world.
>>746452165Is this another "you think you do, but you don't"?
>>746452165he's right though, skyrim faggots are completely antithetical to morrowind and the direction of elder scrolls at the time.
>>746452165faggot is probably still salty that he didnt work on Morrowind. Many such cases.
>>746452849you should kill yourself
>>746452893Even morrowind devs admit it
>>746453049if you're talking about Nesmith, he basically did nothing for Morrowind.
>>746452165I played Morrowind for my first time not long ago and I liked it just as much as Skyrim. Might be my autism though.I've also recently started Oblivion and I haven't found myself enjoying it as much though, for some reason.
>>746452165poison song literally came out this week
Is Gothic 1 just the infinitely better game that it could be remade 25 years later and people liked it even though it still features many of the flaws the original had?I don't believe it. I believe they are just looking for excuses to not make a game, even when its guaranteed to sell.
>>746452165I played morrowind for the very first time about 2 weeks ago and thought it was fun and cool. That guy should be fucking killed before he ruins the studio even more and gets everyone fired
>>746452165Morrowind doesn’t hold your hand like Oblivion and Skyrim. You don’t go around exploring the open world like you do with those two games because some areas are inundated with creatures and enemies that will fuck you up. Health and magicka don’t regenerate in the same way as later titles and fast travel works differently. The role-playing and character build mechanics aren’t watered down either, which means zoomers will have to sit and think about their characters and how they want to level them up. Zoomers like easy games that hold their hand and spoon feed them and Morrowind doesn’t do that so of course they don’t like it.
>>746452165>only 1% of people can do this!the post
>>746452849extremely basedpeople praise it because it's different, not because it's goodboomer version of snowflakes
I tried to play Skyrim again and I was bored. The quests are threadbare and the game relies heavily on dungeon diving and radiant quests.Dungeon diving would be fine, if the dungeons themselves were actually interesting, the loot was fun to find, or the combat was fun. However most of the dungeons are fairly generic, filled with Draugr, the loot scaling makes it all dull and there is no Morrowind-style hand-placed loot anywhere, and the combat, while it is slightly flashier than Oblivion's, is not particularly fun either. Bethesda seemed to think the words of power and the shouts alone would carry most of the looting in Skyrim, and it doesn't The story itself is generic, none of the characters are interesting, and it suffers from the standard Bethesda issue of the main quest being completely divorced from the player experience, everyone talks about how urgent everything is but you can take as long as you want and nothing changes. Alduin is a boring (and incompetent) villain, he apparently just dicks around while you are going around, killing dragons and acquiring power left and right. If he attacked you in the beginning because you were the Dragonborn and he wanted to off you, why does he never attack you ever again? It would make more sense for him to actually try to kill you as soon as possible, considering your powers Skyrim is carried, hard, by two things. One, there aren't really any other games like it, even if everything it does is mediocre. Two, the modding, but frankly I can't be bothered to spend hours and hours of time to "make the game good". Even if you do, most of the game itself doesn't fundamentally change
>>746452165>holy shit uncs I think he literally holocausted youAnd I think that you deserve cancer for typing like this.
>>746452165>power fantasy game will make you cringe>or rather it would if people could read>however they can't so my point doesn't matterMorrowind combat isnt that much worse than minecrafts tbqhwyGranted I know zoomers dont care
>>746453151Mark Nelson, among others..Here's some of Goodall's interview after he quit>I felt Morrowind was a step backwards in some ways.>I was also disappointed with the main quest in Morrowind.>I didn't like the combat at all. I won't claim that the "move the mouse to control your sword" combat of Arena and Daggerfall was perfect, but at least it felt interactive. Morrowind's combat was too simplified, too automatic.
>>746452165The whole TES series is shit to play without mods. And people play this series for everything except the gameplay
>>746452165My favorite streamer literally played it again like three months ago. He plays it several times a year. It's still good everytime.
>>746454405Why dont YOU PLAY IT you massive dick sucking faggot
>>746454336>I was also disappointed with the main quest in Morrowind.damn didn't know Goodall was that much of a faggot
>>746452750do you?
>>746454336Goodall still makes mods for Morrowind to this day so I don't think he hates it.I have no idea what Nelson said, but I doubt he is like Nesmith, who was by far the biggest faggot on the dev team and didn't even work on Morrowind
>>746452165Trvth.Morrowind was dogshit at the time and required a billions mods via the level editor to even function on a basic level. The vanilla game cant even be completed due to broken triggers that you can fix yourself with the map maker lol
>>746452165This is why I have no faith in Bethesda. It’s like they made a great game by accident.
Morrowind would be good if they changed everything about it.
every time
>>746452165morrowind is fogslop, people here only pretend its good because its clunky and full of early 2000s racism
>>746452165sure but this applies to any other elder scrolls game too
>>746452165They're right, but that's because the average player today is an massive fucking bitch incapable of meeting a game on eye level. Today's games are all about (mal)adapting to you, and undoubtedly a "modern" player would have no tolerance for lack of stamina making you miss all your attacks, or how the combat in general is more about dice rolls like a DnD campaign than actual action gameplay. I understood it and was able to adapt well, but the average gamer just doesn't have that kind of tolerance.
>>746452165These kinds of "people" in lead positions is the reason modern games suck ass.
>>746452165Was Skyrim ever not outdated?
>>746452165Apologize to her.
>>746452583
>>746452165Modern bethesda is not only Fallout enemy but also old Elder Scrolls enemy
>>746454336That's mostly because he missed the point of the main quest on a conceptual level. Like the other guy said, Goodall still makes Morrowind mods to this day and IIRC is the only ex-Bethesda dev from the Morrowind era that actually left Bethesda on bad terms with everybody else over creative differences, so i highly doubt he dislikes Morrowind, and if he does he probably dislikes the later games even more lol
>we have no way of monetizing this gameGotcha.
>>746457462I think even casuals are pretty quick to just look up a video guide explaining the optimum way to play something. They get through Elden Ring. They're just not going to read anything in the game.
>>746452165>bruce nesmithMorrowind is the one bethesda title he didn't work on and he seethes endlessly because it's the only title they've made that is universally regarded as one of the GOATs
Skyrimjob is the most disappointing game I've played in my life
>>746452725This. Go play Baldur's Gate 1 and 2
>>746452165Yeah the Elder Scrolls lead is right Morrowind is cringe
>>746452583holy
>>746452583lmao
>>746453185>intentionally obvious camel toe>her clit literally poking through>puffy vulva>no noticeable beef lipsI can see why she had most people under her spell.
>>746452165Certified unc hereEvery single Elder's Scrolls game is shit.
>>746452583Recked
>>746452165the story is well written and world immersive. bethesda seems to have a zoomer problem if they can't appreciate good writing
>>746452165There are cringier games made today, I don't see the issue with playing morrowind.
>>746452165>daggerfall remakeplease do. That game has the most potential of them all.
hes wrong. morrowind always sucked.
>>746452165He probably thinks that modern western AAA is the peak of game design and is baffled by the fact that Elden Ring is towering over all of them.Morrowind's combat is undoubtedly horrible. But it has the best exploration in the franchise by far, and that's why people love it.
>>746452583Ho-lol-ocost
>>746469646the combat is not bad, it's simple but it werksskyrim combat is UNDOUTBTEDLY worse, it's a bunch of ill-conceived garbage
>>746452714The level scaling meme is a lie that has persisted for way too long. Just look at the actual stats.
>>746456978I don't understand really stupid people with poor memories. Do they actually think everyone suffers from this problem?
>>746452583Winner
>>746452583tpbp
>>746452849based. I could overlook every other flaw Morrowind has if the setting was even a little but pleasant.
Crazy how levitation spells don't exist anywhere but morrowind.
>>746452165he's wrong, and morrowind holds up better than every other elder scrolls game outside of skyrim itself.
>>746452165OLD PRODUCT BADNEW PRODUCT GOOD
>>746452165You think you do but you don't right?
>>746452583oh this is a fantastic post
>>746452583SHUT IT DOWN
>>746452165>January 2026We've had this thread countless times already but, again, Skyrim brought in a lot of casual gamers and people that were only just getting into games (coinciding with a much larger percent of the World getting Internet) who, yes, would cringe and be confused by Morrowind.Skyrim is intentionally a much more accessible game, it severely cut down on RPG mechanics and other aspects of the prior entries that would scare off people in favor of being primarily an action game with light RPG mechanics. The article is basically saying >if people who played FIFA, CoD and GTA played an RPG, they'd cringelike yeah, no shit.
>>746471320It didn't jsut bring them in, it was catered to them specifically. I will never forgive Todd for making Oblivion and all games after tailored for consoles with shitty menus on PC that are obviously meant to be used with a controller. The whole series has been shit since 2005.
>>746452583OY VEY!
>>746469862Of course they do, because they can't remember anyone proving them otherwise.
>>746453185That mod is like mosquito tape for autists.I think for me, there are two things I like about Morrowind; the immersion factor, and its place in video game history. To me, playing Morrowind is like going to a museum. I think playing Tamriel Rebuilt probably has the same immersion factor, but it's just not Morrowind anymore. It's a fanfiction version of Morrowind that's baked on Reddit for over a decade. I'm not even going to say it's bad, just that I have no interest in experiencing it because it has no relationship to the base game.
>cattle! don't look at previous entries where we put in effort!>don't look at all the features that we cut out and filled with useless crap to cater to normalfags!>don't compare our older games that shows the biggest inverse decline in quality and high sales!These marketing faggots and middle management niggers need to die.
>>746452583Remember the 8 million
>>746471735If you like the gameplay of Morrowind then I'm not seeing what the issue would be if you treat base Morrowind and content modded Morrowind as two separate games.
>>746454113Just play Enderal. Trust me.
>>746471735you obviously didn't play it. It feels vanilla.
>>746452583JEJ
>>746452165Exact opposite for me, when I tried to play Morrowind back in the day when I was young, it was too obtuse for me.But now it's the right kind of friction.
>>746452165Todd shows more passion for the Morrowind modding scene than he does TES VI.
>>746452583whew lad
>>746469767Skyrim combat works perfectly for what it's supposed to be: a power fantasy where you hit the trigger button until the enemy health hits zero and they rag doll.
>>746452165>"go back and play Morrowind and tell me that’s the game you want to play again. We all have these fond memories of things that were pivotal moments in our gaming fantasy histories that we absolutely move but you go back and play a 20 year old game and you will cringe.">"The reality of playing Morrowind would not stand the test of time, in my opinion."Sort of a oddly disrespectful claim considering how popular it continues to be and it definitely comes off as if he hasn't actually tried replaying it given the 'would.' I've noticed designers often can't help fixate on design itself and naturally have a belief that their discipline progresses. Nesmith would probably believe that quest markers, as an example, are a positive development because it's a design choice which makes the game more fun and accessible for more people
>>746452165>has several popular modding projects that have been ongoing for decades and massively expand upon the game without changing its coredumb faggot
>>746471735Pretty grim when fanfic is better than canon
>>746452583>Sir, a second holocaust hit the jews
>>746452165What does it mean I will cringe? what the fuck does that mean?
>>746454336Yeah, he's right. Daggerfall's main quest is clearly regarded as one of the best in gaming history. Everybody is always talking about how great the story is in Daggerfall.
>>746452583Oy vey! Rememba 65m copies!
>>746475989A lot of designers are neurotically worried about what young consumers would think. If I had to guess, he's been conditioned to be instinctively adverse to anything that could be perceived as old and dorky, since his job is on the line after all
>>746475129Praise Allah I have never seen something so glorious
>>746452165>skyrim's design leadwhy do I care what some homosexual says? Morrowind mogs skyrim, to this day.
>>746452165why do zoomers like Daggerfall more than Morrowind?
>>746452583uh oh anon i think you just got placed on the watchlist by mossad mods here
>>746452849Settings are what makes or breaks a game for me. I hate industrial settings like the last few chapters in the evil within 1 and the re4 island
>>746452583BODIED that freak
>>746452583Fuck
>>746452725I'm neutral on it. I'm not convinced that it is a must play RPG series. Skyrim and Oblivion are definitely not worth playing.
is Tamriel Rebuilt actually good?
>>746452165He is not wrong, I was born in 1992my first tes was oblivioni loved that game and yet i never played morrowind, because i could see its crapand yet i played even older games like baldur's gate and fallout
>>746457029the water will never be recreatedlost techlike getting to the moon.
>>746452583QUICK, someone post the news article collages from the newspapers of 1915 claiming the austrohungarians and germans had genocided 6 million jeeeeeeeeeeews
>>746452165He ain’t wrong tho.
>>746452165>>746452849This. People only like Morrowind because they want to be different from the rest. aside from magic crafting, everything is dogshit and was done better in oblivion and Skyrim
>>746452165>Translation: "Purchase our remasters, you stupid Goyim!"
>>746452165>old game bad, new game (that we're trying to get you to buy) goodComes across the same way their treatment of F:NV does, salty they couldn't make a followup half as good.
>>746452165Well duh, theres no mounts
>>746481518I think the only people who bitch about Skyrim a lot are magic players who are pissed that spellcrafting was removed. Because literally everything else was massively improved. Especially the combat and crafting systems.
>>746452583Biggest own I have seen in a long time.
>>746482494Skyrim is the most boring and shallow dogshit I have ever played in my life. It is an endless wonder to me that so many peabrained normies continually cream their jorts over it. It is simply a dull, sauceless, generic shell of a video game that is so bad that it requires a mountain of unofficial mods to even begin approaching anywhere near interesting or unique and that is just a sign of poor design.
TAMRUH
>>746452583Now THIS is what a real holocaust looks like
>>746452583I'm so glad I opened the thread lmao
>>746452165That's a shitty take, Morrowind actually aged quite well and the gameplay isn't near as bad as people complain about. That doesn't change the fact that Skyrim is a timeless masterpiece game and threads like this are effectively nothing more than yet more Bethesda-bad Skyrim-bad slopaganda
>>746452583Tpbp>imagine I posted a pile of colovian leather shoes
>>746483273Skyrim is a mirror. If you think it's shallow and boring, that's just because that's what you are yourself.
>>746483273I'd love to know how much fantasy content i would have to consume to find a world like Skyrim boring and generic. How much are you playing that you go "been there, done that, boring" when you're roaming around the wilderness?
>>746472163I just wanted to say that I see your post Enderal bro and I hope you have a good day
>>746452583HAH
>>746483886It's a smaller world than Skyrim, but what's there is much more polished and sensible. The builds are funner, there's a much higher incentive for exploring, I could go on. My only major complaint is that the quest variety and amount of content peters out too fast.
>>746484351They blew their quest load with the lower to mid level areas, fucking nothing for side quests in the icy north despite having some of the cooler locations.
>>746452583Made me laugh
>>746452583OP BTFO
>>746452583fuckin lmao
>>746482494Magic is great in Skyrim too, actually. The shitters just failed at actually engaging with any of the game mechanics cause they wanted to grind out enchanted daedric armor instead, and this is somehow Bethesda's fault and not a reflection of their own character
>>746484351Lol none of that is remotely true. Skyrim is a classic masterpiece, Enderal is a literal fan mod built off of other people's hard work. Shit like this is why vidya will never be taken seriously as an art form
>>746452165>Skyrim Design leadOh no, Morrowind dungeons aren't circles, how could I play this?
>>746452583post of the thread
mwse >>>>>>>> openmw
>>746452165and if i didnt and he's wrong?who is bad at their job in such case?
>>746452583Gottem
TES devs 2026:>Morrowind is like, so cringe. We barely made any money off that. Everyone knows the real Elder Scrolls is in Nigger Land. We’re going to ask the US government to cut us a dono for making sure the white men are all slaves. Soooo kino!
>>746452165>holocaustedSo wheres my swimming pool?!
>>746452165No it wouldn't. Starfield on the other hand...
>>746452165I love Morrowind but good god the walking speed in early game is atrocious and having walking consume fatigue is retarded
>>746456978Yeah except their newer games suck
>>746452165Why even bring Morrowind into the conversation, is this some sort of envy thing. Does Morrowind pay rent?
>>746452583Tpbp came here to post this
