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Despite its flaws, I can't bring myself to hate this game.
It just has too much soul. DAE feel the same?
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>>746477076
Ive played it too many times to play it again, but I agree on the soul.
Great for someone thats never played MG, 4 was my first MG game which made 1-3 way better
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>>746477076
The actual gameplay is all right. The problem is there’s so little of it
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>>746477076
>It just has too much soul
Kojima made it entirely out of spite and because he was forced to with the only alternative be leaving konami. It's the antithesis of soul.
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>>746477320
despite him not wanting to make the game it got a lot of soul in it, I don't wanna reveal too much for the zoomies playing it rn but yeah, definitely some great stuff in it, especially for fans who played the previous 3 and you better not start with this one, play MGS1-3 first
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>>746477320
>Kojima made it entirely out of spite
More or less true.

>It's the antithesis of soul.
It feels like the first half is some of the most hateful stuff in this series, characters who had their stories wrapped up being brought back only to be shown as failures who didn't learn their lesson from their respective games, levels and presentation that's basically just War on Terror fatigue, and the sheer amount of cutscenes feeling hostile. A lot of the final bits do feel like love for the series and what it'd built up though, especially the finale and how all the characters get their own resolution. Feels like a game that's constantly tackling with itself and how it feels about its past, both a lot of love and hate for it. It's very soulful to me in that regard.
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>>746477320
>with the only alternative be leaving konami
and then he left them anyway
so what was the point
i thought your argument was all this death threat shit with japanese nerf guns and ninja darts
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>>746477320
Kojima is so soulful even when he doesn't want to he makes games filled with soul.
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uh oh
low review numbers and its MIXED reviews
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>>746478535
Good, fuck Konami.
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This is one of the few games where I can admit that I was just not ready for it at the time of release. I played MGS1/2/3 all on release, and then this just fell flat. The themes and attention to detail in this game are autistic as fuck in the best way. I guess it doesn't help that reality is very clearly moving towards a similar type of surveillance state, just makes it seem that much crazier. Enjoying my playthrough.
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>>746477235
Same. My introduction was watching my friend's desert storm veteran dad drink whiskey and play this. When I saw how goofy things would get I knew I had to play it myself, saved up my little caesar's pay to get a ps3 slim and this game on my lunch break
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>>746478535
The negative reviews are all for Peace Walker if you actually look. Good thing I don't give a shit about that game
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>>746477076
I want to play MGS4 since I only ever got to play 1 - 3. But I don't want to play anything but cutesy mahou shoujo shit, I wish there was some mod that turned Snake into a cute mahou shoujo even if she was still a granny.
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I always loved it
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WHY ARE THERE SO MANY CUTSCENES
WHY ARE THEY SO LONG
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>>746477076
>its flaws
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>>746478894
It's called kino, anon. MGS4 created it
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>>746478847
Nonlethal Laughing Octopus or the other B&B bosses, you can get their faces as masks. Maybe you'd like that.
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>>746478894
You have seen nothing yet, better get used to it. The ending is holding the guiness world record for the longest cutscene in a game, it's literally like a full movie
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>>746478535
KMfags are subhuman
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So any anon took a peek at how this game runs? What engine does it uses?
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>>746477076
Despite everything, it's still a well-made piece of software.
MGSV however...
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This game has an intolerable amount of fanservice while also ruining a bunch of characters.
Sometimes you can feel the spite Kojimbo must have had to make this game.
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>>746479604
...is also a well-made piece of software!
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>>746479604
Agreed. MGSV is probably the worst outside of the side/mobile games. Snake feels great to control but that's about the extent of what the game does well. When I play MGS4 I'm eating popcorn and enjoying every minute of it.
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>>746478359
>and then he left them anyway
>so what was the point
he hadn't built him the connections he needed at that point
something something death stranding
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>>746479737
>hadn't built the connections he needed
>Sony funded the construction of their entire studio and they remained independant
I think he was pretty well connected.
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>>746477076
>game
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>>746477076
No, I find it pretty easy to hate MGS4. I've softened on it a little bit over time, though. Not a lot, just a little bit. It's still shit.
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kojima has no problem with leaving things even without connections kek
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>Walk 5 feet
>15 min Cutscene
>5 mins of gameplay
>45 min Cutscene


Kojima turning MGS into a Saturday morning cartoon should have got him canned long before he embezzled funds
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>>746480151
I would have left too. Zero awards all because what's essentially just paper mario with jailbait
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>>746478535
It's bare bones and for being so bare bones PW's port in particular is pretty bad. I haven't noticed any real problems with MGS4, but I did notice some weird stuttering in PW. Konami is still Konami.
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>I CAN'T BREATHE

they always said these games predicted the future but this is ridiculous
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>>746480294
>bare bones
MGS4 port is pretty much everything I wanted. Great kb/m controls especially compared to vol. 1, and nearly everything else is just as I remember it. I really couldn't ask for more.
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>>746480343
Akiba would never point a gun at a pregnant woman's stomach
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>>746478535
>reviews for a launcher
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>>746479604
...is perfect
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>>746480269
Are you trying to say Paper Mario is bad? Or that it is less of a video game the trash Kojima puts out nowadays?
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>>746477076
No, there's just too much retarded stuff for me to overlook.
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>>746480517
I love paper mario but e33 bored me so fast I just didn't care. I had a MUCH more enjoyable and engaging time playing both Death Strandings compared to that eurotrash
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>>746478689
I got pissed when the game started because I thought it was broken not being able to skip the TV channel section. This and Killzone 2 made the PS3 amazing
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>Hold up a pmc
>Raiden calls me shortly after forcing me to lower my gun and let the pmc get alerted and grab his sidearm
The jokes about this game really are true, you get interrupted constantly
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>>746478959
longer than death stranding's ending? that's the real lowest point of kojima's career. good game tho.
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is there a cheat to make your game timer 99 hours? I can't be bothered to leave my laptop on for 2 days straight for the chicken rank, that's insanity
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>>746481143
If you played the game as much as I have you'd know codec calls only come after scene transitions: loading into a new area
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MGS2 suck
MGS3 suck
MGS4 suck
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>>746481278
shit taste, opinion disregarded
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>>746481278
good taste, opinion accepted
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>>746481278
Mediocre taste, opinion considered
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acknowledge this game
right now
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>>746481710
MGS4 is so good
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>>746481710
Has the multiplayer been active? That's the one reason I'd get it.
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>>746481278
>getting the grammar wrong on a two-word sentence
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>>746481710
Chapter 4 of this was kino.
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>>746477076
Turns out it was the last real MGS game, before the series turned into grinding mission slop. That has made me appreciate it more.
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>>746481782
except "real mgs" was all just cutscene slop
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>>746481710
Surprisingly fun despite the design choice of small quick levels for a salaryman to play on the train.
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>>746481278
Hey alright
someone shoot this guy
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>>746481821
It's called Kino, anon
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>>746481897
boring pointless cutscenes where blowup dolls complain about being trans to one another vs tons of missions with countless amounts of gear and gameplay, hmm i wonder which one id pick
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>>746481953
>trans
that's kojima's next game, anon
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>>746482004
this is obviously a transgender
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>>746481953
>countless amounts of gear
there is only the tranq pistol. If you ever use anything else, you're a faggot
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>>746482067
have fun watching your lame cutscenes faggot, im gonna be killing shit with assault rifles and air strikes
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>>746481710
jumped into it right after 1 (and then into v)
imagine my surprise when zero turned out to be some bumbling quirk chungus in 3
and the way they built him up in 4 as well, did we play the same game kojima?
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>>746478337
yeah problem with the latter half is i'm seeing these epic moments and thinking this woulda been brilliant if i didn't already fucking hate everything about these characters and their story.
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>>746477076
Metal Gear Solid should have ended at 3
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>>746482378
*2
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>>746482283
>did we play the same game kojima?
you did, it's just he was strapped for ideas and one of his two writers was gone, so the shit he was setting up in 3 had to be shoehorned without any proper build up besides one throwaway code phrase and a couple missable codec calls played more as jokes. and unfortunately both peace walker and V in general were too damn small scale in their structure to allow for actually having zero do anything to properly build him up either..
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>>746481710
Paz did nothing wrong.
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I wanted to use my PS4 controller for a more traditional experience, only to discover an issue known as L2 interference. Basically the left analog drifts when pressing L2. So if I want to aim while in a crawling position, pressing L2 all the way causes Snake to crawl to his left
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nah sorry, it will always be soulless to me. the fan service and obligatory loose end tying was one of the most unsatisfying experiences I've had in games.
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>>746477076
11 hrs ""game""
10 hrs cutscenes
Movie Game Snoy 4
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>>746482193
and you're going to have zero good staff for your staff based gameplay experience. better start using the gay fulton
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The first missions were exceptional. Anything after the car chase thing was just fan wank
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>>746482479
>>746482676
The fan service was tasteful at least.
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>>746482565
>11 hrs ""game""
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
The gameplay sections are half of that being really generous.
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>>746482716
Every single moment Raiden is in the game is just peak. I adore the split screen segment so much
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>>746477076
It is pure kino, the last good MGS
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>>746481710
Waiting for the inevitable peace walker remake since they're 100% going to make it and i already have peace walker on my 360 so i dont see the need to buy it again
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>>746482467
she let herself get raped and is therefore a slut
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>>746482637
why are you so mad?
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>>746482881
>that sounded mad to you
pussy
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>>746482915
you are clearly mad. so again why so mad?
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>>746482974
I'm just telling you how to play your staff simulator with boring missions, otherwise you're not gonna have a good time. Pussy
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>>746483014
yep you're definitely mad

>boring missions
better than shitty cutscenes about why trans rights matter
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>>746483084
You're upset because you're attracted to him
>>746482051
LMAO
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>>746482051
Raiden was born male and identifies as male, therefore not trans
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>>746483109
nah you are, you like the trans games whereas i like the based games where you can kill african kids
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>>746483167
What part of that quote do you disagree with?
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>>746483167
You've never played a metal gear besides the one that turned you into a tranny. Interesting
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>Raiden still filtering people decades later
how did he do it?
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>>746483186
>>746483205
least obvious samefag, you are trans
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>>746483209
Literally the same way Nero filters people in DMC, no one likes a rando being a protag, he's not special
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>>746483232
I don't think you understand how the 60 second post window works
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>>746483232
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>>746483259
>>746483263
discord raid
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>>746483278
mindbroken faggot
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>>746483278
You're just retarded and want to be a woman. You will never be a woman but you've succeeded at the retardation
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>>746477076
The only people who hate it are morons so don't pay them any mind.
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>>746483303
>>746483314
discord raiders
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>>746483365
>two people disagree with me? IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!
concession accepted, closing tab
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>>746483365
you would know all about discord, wouldn't you tranny?
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>>746483386
you still like the shit games and i like the good one, so i won
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>>746483167
>based games where you can kill african kids
which one is that
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>>746482051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfxOMYpA8dM
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>>746483437
mgsv
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>>746483457
dumb nigger
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>>746483457
oh yeah it allows you to ki-
WHAT THE FUCK BOSS? GAME OVER, NOW WE HAVE TO PAY REPARATIONS!
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>>746483437
max payne 3, resident evil 5
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>>746483470
i would beat your ass in real life

>>746483480
mods
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>>746483498
You would eat 12 gauge to the face
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>>746483518
your arms would snap firing a 22 lr
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>>746477076
It's metal gear solid, you stare at an old man's ass sagging about 99 percent of the game, there's a wedding in a fucking metal gear solid game in which snake is cucked by some shids and fart useless guy and Meryl is a disgusting old hag that isn't even love with the guy she marries.

The entire game is a joke.
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>>746483567
You can't even own a gun, tranny. severe mental illness will do that
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sunny emmerich
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>>746483623
>tits this big at 13
she'll be a fucking cow mate
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>>746483621
projection, your the trans one. your also the one getting this mad over metal gear solid, cope
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>>746482051
hunter schafer would unironically make a good raiden
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>>746483652
>literal washboard
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>>746483782
>washboard
ur blind my friend
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>>746483743
You think this is your gf, I think we all know who is mad
>>746482051
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>>746481710
It's shit
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I'm still mad that we never got the original MGS Rising. Where it supposed to take place before MGS4 and explains how Raiden became a cyborg. But I do understand why they outsourced it to Platinum Games due to lack of vision.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtM3PGyiQUc
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>>746483875
Same. I wanted another Raiden game so bad but not like this. I'm sure the game is fine but it ended up being a game not for me.
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>>746477076
from a design standpoint the game is a fucking mess since it just gives up on being a video game after act 3 or 4
its held together by the fact that for those first couple acts where you can actually play the game the gameplay is awesome and so are the setpieces
the back half being almost entirely cutscene is compensated by having enough dramatic weight to keep you invested, whether that weight is earned is another thing however

if it was any other property with any other team at the helm it would have crashed and burned stupendously and would be one of those infamously shit titles that gets brought up every time someone needs an example of cinematic garbage a la unsharted or last of us
but there's just enough game design for the 5 hours you get to experience it and the mgs story has just enough momentum behind it to drag it up to middling curiosity
I'd bet if you fought actual guys in the shadow moses segment instead of just a billion of those retarded robots nobody likes it would easily be bumped up to a low-medium good
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>>746483825
you are so mad and projecting, you are obsessed with trans cock
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>>746484142
sorry, how is Raiden trans?
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>>746484142
you're such a dumb nigger it's unbelievable
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>>746484180
shut up fag, i would beat the ever living shit out of you
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>>746484210
good one, faggot
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>>746484204
lol mad mad mad mad mad, so mad
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>>746484262
says the nigger tranny threatening violence. lmao
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>>746484294
not threatening, just stating facts on what would happen
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>>746484210
ok but what makes Raiden trans?
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>>746484345
The fact is you would simply cower and tremble, who do you think you're fooling?
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>>746484378
>>746484381
lol shut up pussies, no point in responding further cause you have no argument
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>>746484408
I'm not trying to argue, I'm just asking what makes Raiden trans
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>>746484408
Coward
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>>746484426
bad faith question, just look at him you dumbass lolcow idiot faggot retard

>>746484431
pussy
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>>746484467
>bad faith question, just look at him you dumbass
I mean, you can call Raiden a faggot or whatever, but how is he trans?
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>>746484467
Did you save that because it got your feminine penis hard?
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>>746484486
LOOK AT HIM DUMBASS THERES NO POINT IN FUCKING ARGUING WITH YOU
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I've been playing it one act a day since release. The cutscenes tire me out. I'd never seen anything like this before.
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>>746484510
what do you think trans means? do you think it just means "gay"?
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>>746484501
projection. you have a feminine estrogenized small penis injected with estrogen
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Raiden is troon coded because big hips and effeminate appearance or something
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>>746484553
You saved and posted a naked man, not me. Faggot
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>>746484562
But he never says he's a woman
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>>746484550
transgender. which is raiden and (you)
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>The total length of all cutscenes in Metal Gear Solid 4 is approximately 8 hours and 50 minutes, which includes both in-game and cinematic sequences. Given the game's total playtime, this averages to about 44% of the gameplay time being cutscenes.
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>>746484579
i save it because its what i know you are. a weak faggot who is only known for being trans
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>>746484661
you saving that on your drive tells us all the opposite
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>>746477241
This. Goddamn if MGS4 isn't the absolute peak of the franchise gameplay-wise. It's an absolute technical masterpiece in that regard. It's just a fucking shame that the story limits your ability to engage with those mechanics. Especially one off sections like the Rex v. Ray fight or the final CQC battle with Ocelot. No shade to the story, though. As a lifetime fan of the franchise, I fucking love the absolute insanity Kojimbo embraced in order to wrap things up. It's second only to MGS2 in terms of plot.

Legitimate 9/10 game from an objective standpoint.
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I forgot how much I don't like act 3.
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>>746484693
whatever you say pussy
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>>746481710
The true MGS5
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i think it gives TOO much and mgsV gave use too little
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>>746484790
Good one faggot, everyone will remember this awesome response
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>>746483606
Mei Ling should've been the true romance route for snake
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>>746484618
MGS2 is also about 40% cutscenes
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>>746484831
and no one will remember you, except for getting owned by me
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>>746484880
You jerk off to raiden and pretend to be a woman
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>>746484908
lol the projection, i have mentally destroyed you
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>>746484937
You were mentally destroyed the moment you spoke up
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>>746484962
you talk all this shit but you clearly lost. go cope in your discord
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>>746484984
>>746483498
>>746484210
lmao mindraped faggot
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>>746485025
>>746484962
>>746484908
>>746484831
>>746484693
>>746484579
trans btw
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>>746485162
Come on why not threaten more violence? I thought you won this? Retard
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>>746485198
don't need to cause you're so scared
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>>746480231
All the MGS games have long sequences of cutscenes and codec calls. 1, 2, and 3 all do it. 1's prison and torture sequence takes forever, 2 literally will not let you play the game without an annoying codec call and yet another cutscene every 2 steps, and 3's entire tutorial and bomb segments are basically a movie. People joke about 4 being a movie but they're all a fucking movie.
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>>746485225
Scared of you? hahaha you're the biggest pussy I've ever seen
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>>746485251
you are so obviously scared, you saw my posts and started cowering
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>>746485275
I already told you I'm armed, what do I need to fear from a faggot like you? a love letter for another male you find attractive?
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>>746485239
>1's prison and torture sequence takes forever,
The fact you believe that's anyway comparable to mgs4 tells me that you're an actual retard, lol
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>>746485349
>I already told you I'm armed
you live in india, you have no guns

>a love letter for another male you find attractive?
once again obsessed with trans and gay haha
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>>746485394
I live in Tyler Texas, come visit sometime. You're the one posting gay porn
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>>746485435
post proof you're there
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>>746484874
and other 40 are codec calls
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>>746485472
>Proof
What would that do? you'd still continue to be a faggot either way
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>>746483747
tits too big
ass too small
face too boney
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>>746485518
to prove your not indian
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>>746485561
You first
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>>746485575
deflection, your trans btw
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>>746485631
Exactly what I thought, pussy. Now that you've admitted you're a nigger, indian, and a troon, what do you have to say for yourself?
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>>746485684
you love putting words in other peoples mouths huh? you are still trans btw
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>>746485709
Better than what you put in your mouth voluntarily
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I just finished MGS1 for the first time (got Iguana rank)
i skipped it the first time around cuz I was a scrub but playing it now felt extremely straight forward. i mean the game literally holds your hand the entire time and tells you exactly what to do
the game honestly had a lot of really annoying moments, like the damage in boss fights (had to redo rex because i died from missiles AFTER rex died but before the cutscene proc'd) and certain rooms near the end, and all the fucking gun turrets even if the game gives you 9001 chaffs. also fuck that guard before the laptop room. I stinger'd his ass every fucking time I used the key.
also the random trap doors and claymores. fuck that shit. I'm never going to play it again but overall the game was cool, sure. im more excited to replay the rest of the series.
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>>746485735
i know you put lots of trans "things" in yours. maybe your boy vagina too
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the terrible audio in the MGS4 port is a genuine bummer to me, because I think MGS4 has some of the best audio design in gaming history.

It is genuinely amazing how good the game sounds, how good the foley shit is, the different audio for difference surfaces you run on, the little gravelly noises, the noises of the battlefield and explosions, the gunshots reverberating. It has such amazing audio and the fact that it is broken in the port makes me not want to play it.
https://x.com/DoggTTV/status/2093746158950568283
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>>746485815
I'm glad you got the joke considering the language barrier but a "no u" isn't really cutting it for me, do better faggot.
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>>746485872
lol you are so obviously esl, getting your discord friends to post for you?
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>>746485897
>no u again
zero creativity, mongoloid, black, trans, and indian. rough buddy
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>>746485927
that's all you've been doing. meanwhile i've been pointing out all your flaws, discord raider. wanna call your backup guy now?
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>>746477076
It's a lot better than 3, I've at least come to that conclusion. Its a major step down narratively from 2, and I'd also argue the level design just isn't as good.
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>>746485967
It's just me and you and you want someone else to roast you too? Humiliation fetish much?
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The game feels like a hit piece on Solid Snakes popularity
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>>746477076
>DAE
We really are reddit now. I keep seeing NTA too.
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>>746486025
LOLOLOL ANOTHER PROJECTION, you are so pathetic
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He mindbroke this thread btw
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>>746486045
>PROJECTION
>PROJECTION
>PROJECTION
get some new material you boring faggot. I've had more interesting arguments with women
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>>746479604
What the fuck happened between GZ and V, besides the obvious stuff with Kojima and Konami. The level design is awful.
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>>746486092
>I've had more interesting arguments with women
not an argument first off, just humiliating you in front of your discord sisters. also you clearly want to be a woman, do you think im your husband as well?
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>>746486118
The only one you're humiliating is you and you're too retarded to even know. sad.
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I've been replaying the whole saga and it's kind of changed my perspective. 2 is the absolute peak of the franchise. I remember enjoying 3 a lot more when I was younger but maybe it's the lack of patience as I get older but it's a borderline cumbersome game. I'm having a good time with 4 but aware I've got the boring Shadow Moses chapter to do then it's a sprint to the ending.
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>>746486158
all of your discord sisters are laughing at you when you share screenshots of this btw
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>>746486204
>discord
>discord
>discord
like I said before, get new material. boring nigger
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>>746486251
material doesn't need to be new if it's true. notice how you haven't disputed any of it?
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>>746486267
What the fuck are you talking about you insane troon? Just because you use discord does not mean everyone else uses it. I hope that 8 year old boy you're grooming rats on you
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>>746486321
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL CONTINUES TO PROJECT HAHAHAHA, YOU ARE SO MINDBROKEN
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>>746486352
That was funny to you? The prospect of your 8 year old boy slave turning you in to the feds?
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>>746486390
NO YOUR THE ONE WHOS DOING THAT TO THE 8 YEAR OLD HAHAHAHAHAHA, SO MAD
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>>746486450
I already reported this thread to the FBI with links to your violent threats. Who's scared now?
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>>746486489
scared
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>>746486530
My lawyer advised me not to instigate further. good luck
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>>746485384
Let's take a look at the sequence directly before and after the torture shit.
>short, linear cave segment
>backtracking
>boss """fight""" that's over in under a minute
>multiple torture scenes
>waiting around in the cell
>MORE backtracking
Thrilling.
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>>746486450
You got absolutely raped
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Apparently the port makes one boss fight extremely easy because of how the 60 fps impacts damage calculation.
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>>746478535
Main games are fine it's just the launcher shenanigans and Ghost of Babel not launching that is lowering it
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>>746485831
can we expect any mods to fix that? something always has to go wrong with these ports man, lol
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>>746477076
Why such good gameplay wasted on a fucking movieshit whyyyyyyyy
Mgs4 gameplay with piss walker mission structure is my dream mgs game
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>>746477076
I finished it yesterday, it was the last mgs l didn't played
While I enjoyed, specially the first half I felt that Kojima half-assed the story. There are too many plot holes caused by the typical Kojimbo twists, and I feel there are too many questions left unanswered about the patriots. The political commentary is kinda dated when the one in mgs2 is still relevant. I also didn't enjoy the unnecessary cuckolding.
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>>746491361
All that complicated troop ai and mech ai just for 5 hours of gameplay
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>>746492350
AI is on par with MGS1, you fucking retard
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>>746477320
Spite is not opposed to soul thoughbeit
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>twin snakes voices in shadow moses flashbacks
dropped
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>>746477076
hows the multiplayer of mgs4? Currently, i am playing peace walker and it's pretty dead.

>>746478535
Works on my machine.
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>>746493740
>>twin snakes voices in shadow moses flashbacks
>dropped
immediate buy. MGS will never be as kino as twin snakes again.
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>>746491361
I still don't understand why nobody got this idea
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>>746494939
mgo2 was not included unfortunately
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>>746495390
I Just want to go back
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>>746480294
What's wrong with MGS4 is that you can't use KB&M with it.

>>746480390
You can't play MGS4 with a mouse. It crashes the game when you get to Shadow Moses.
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>>746495438
you can with emulation https://mgo2pc.com/portal/
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>>746477076
i just liked acts 2,3 and 4 rest are dogshit
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>>746483623
looks like young gina gerson with better hair dye
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>>746481710
>>746482467
Boss should have arrested Paz and detained her in his quarters for the duration of the war.
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I REALLY like mgs4
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>>746478535
Works on my machine
My machine is a Switch 2
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>>746477076
I went straight into playing Peace Walker instead
Time to build up Mother Base once again
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>>746484516
>I've been playing it one act a day since release. The cutscenes tire me out.
I think you need to see a doctor asap.
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>>746484718
I have yet to see a better final fight on a videogame, the only thing that comes even close is soul of Cinder and it still falls on its face.
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>>746501121
Based gameplay enjoyer
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>>746481710
All the people who hate it must never have played it co-op back in the day, some of the most fun I've had with the series
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>>746478535
KBM Retards think PW should cater to them, despite it being a PSP game. It’s a nothing burger.
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>>746479604
MGS4 is good, but MGSV is better.
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>>746484510
>>746484467
>>746484408

>Average /pol /v/ user who has to say faggot or tranny or he'll literally die moment.
Yoink.
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>>746481710
i just acknowledge zero has a harem of loli looking young flat women
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>>746482004
next game looks like mgs4 act 3 as a full game with robert pattison or cameron mcgonaghan just by concept art
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MGS4 is such an unbalanced game. Why even bother with CQC when you can shot someone in the head with the tranquilizer pistol? The areas are so big that anyone you knock out with CQC will wake up and put the whole level in caution mode. Meanwhile if they wake up from a nap they don't give a shit.
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>>746478946
funny crying wolf its prime debra wilson
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>>746502509
also the noise system force you to crouch slow or hear you in fact hardest sneak part is get the sleep gun in act 1 and the dogshit intro of act 5 with everyone in precaution mode
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MGS3>MGS2>MGS4>MGS1>MGSV
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>>746502509
>Why even bother with CQC when you can shot someone in the head with the tranquilizer pistol?
You summed up all the MGS games
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>>746482004
that game gonna be cancelled by pajeet if nothing happens 1 more year
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I tried getting into MGS with Delta (also played V) and quit after about an hour or so when I realized the gameplay would consist of 50 seconds walking, sneaking through a corridor area only to be interrupted by a radio call filled with exposition and Japanese type akwardness or a 10 minute cutscene. Apparently 4 is way, way worse than that too
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>>746483652
11 actually
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>>746502643
everything except psx and msx games
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>>746502716
I think you just got filtered. You can move sonic fast in every MGS if you engage with your items and the systems.
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>>746502610
That section is also snapped in half by the tranq gun since you can just shoot everyone in the head and no one will give a shit. The only issue is the Gekkos.


>>746502643
In MGS3 CQC is actually useful because the smaller areas means you're outta there before anyone you knocked out can get up. Everything is bigger in 4 so you have to haul ass if you feel like trying CQC.
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I loved it. It made me cry. One of only two games that did it. The oven got me.
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>>746502642
Lol retard
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>>746502642
For me it's
>3 > 1 > 2 > PW > 4 > V
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Are people trying out the coop in Peace Walker? I remember it being fun back in the PS3.
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>>746477076
The complains are about the game not working on Steam Deck and no mouse support. Something like that.
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>>746501121
kojima has impeccable taste.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO_5R_DMCJA
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>>746502642
2 > V > 1 > 3 > 4 > PW
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>>746502642
>1>4>2>3>V>PW
Heavy nostalgia bias
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>4 was my first MG game

curbstomp zoomers
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PW>mgs2>mgs5>mgs1>mgs3>mgs4
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>>746501969
>release a game on a platform where the primary control method is KBM
>do not specify that the game literally does not function with KBM
>surprised people shit on it
WOAH
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>>746503190
No because tourist don't play real video game and prefer watching movies so they can make duran duran edits
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>>746503958
Just plug in a controller. You had this warning on 1-3. This is genuinely retarded.
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>>746504010
>it's the players fault that the company failed to do their due diligence in specifying known issues with the game
WOAH
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In MGS4 can you still switch controller ports for the Mantis fight?
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>>746483623
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>>746503401
>The complains are about the game not working on Steam Deck
why? deck should be able to handle it.
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>>746503904
Bless you, anon
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>>746481710
>has sex with an underage girl and his best friend
What did Kojama mean by this?
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The euro tailing mission and shadow moses aren't bad at all.
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>>746484618
>44% of the game is cinematics
>30% is that annoying tailing mission in Europe
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>>746502642
2>4>5> the rest are irrelevant because i haven't played them
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>>746504798
That tailing mission took me 40 minutes but 30 minutes of that was fucking with guards.
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>>746504848
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Metal gear kinda sucks. 1 is okay for the year it was made.
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>raiden high heels when cyborged
>raiden nude in arsenal
>raiden gets pissed on
>skintight SKULL suit
>long hair
>borderline gay scenes with Vamp whose concept art was a girl
>dramatic face reveal

Was Raiden potentially planned as a female protagonist and then later changed?
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>>746502642
Twin Snakes > MGS2 > MGSV > Peace Walker/ MGS 1 > MGS4 > MGS3(og and remake)
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>>746481146
Yes.
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>>746506716
*but it's worth it
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>>746477076
I don't hate it, but I don't particularly like it either. the pacing is HORRIBLE and it ran like absolute dogshit on the PS3, so when you were given permission to play the videogame it was severely compromised, regularly dipping into the 20s framerate wise. the worst part is that the actual videogame is quite fun (though the bosses are kind of bad) but sneaking around battlefields was quite enjoyable.
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>>746479604
MGSV is frustrating in that GZ showed how tight level design for the game would be perfect, and TPP throws all that into the garbage.
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Playing through delta right now, should I go for MGS4 or PW next? I've already played them both. I dropped my emulated playthrough of PW just because I knew it would be coming.
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>>746481710
fun little game with pretty boring boss fights.
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>>746503958
it still works, just barely
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>>746481710
cinema
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When I think about MGS I always get so sad... I was so obsessed with it for so many years. Those days were so good. I'll always cherish the memories of MGSV release
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>>746506962
Install mods and crank enemy vision up, among other changes. You can add patrols to the open world. Having GZ hardmode enemy vision makes you have to use the environment for cover, too, which makes the outer reaches of outposts less boring.
There's a mod that lets you swap camos while in the cardboard box, which when combined with increased patrols and increased enemy vision and damage, makes the game more close to the original vision.
There's even a mod to add open world combat encounters to the map in free roam, so you get ambushed by skulls, quiet, the man on fire, etc.

It's not the same as ground zeros, but the game feels a lot more demanding of stealth if you add these.
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>>746507324
I'll keep that mind if I ever choose to revisit the game
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>>746506974
you should play Portable Ops first then PW
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doing this shit again? really? ugh...
1=2=V>POWER GAP THE SIZE OF ARSENAL GEAR>3=4=PW
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>>746507410
I don't have Pops
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>>746504410
Holy fuck.
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>>746506491
No
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>>746507474
emulate it
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>>746507776
She looks cute
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>>746499102
I'd eat her eggs if you catch my drift
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>>746508919
You have your red wings?
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I've always loved the look of this sneaking suit
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>>746508919
I wouldn't. She doesn't even serve them with buttered toast and despite being online all the time she never decided to search up how to not fuck up eggs so Naomi had to teach her.
She would be a terrible wife.
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>>746506491
>>746507776
This is gonna sound gay, but I wish the internet had a thing for femboys when mgs2 released because imagine all the rule34 of Raiden we'd have. Imagine the SFMs
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>>746509516
You're right that was pretty gay.
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Are the master collections good on PC for a full series playthrough? Getting laid off from my job so I'll have tons of free time looking for a new job im this shitty job market, thinking of mixing some mgs in my gym time
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>>746509275
Same, also the octo-camo mask is badass af
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why is the game so blurry? turning off FXAA doesn't change anything.
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>>746502642
I just want a military game where you do missions with the mgsV gameplay, this is all I want
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>>746509850
It was the style of the time. bloom, blur, and brown.
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>>746510005
nah I looked it up, apparently the game is bugged and has a dynamic resolution setting that lowers your resolution no matter what gpu you have.

https://github.com/BevelTipDrip/MGSPatriotFix-Modified
https://github.com/ShizCalev/MGSPatriotFix

there's already mods to fix it
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>>746506491
Someone posted it year ago, Kojima did testing and some JK girl said I hate games about stupid old men so Kojima told his character designer to make Raiden extremely beautiful, he's fujobait
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I was autistic enough to save and reload my way into no killing and no alerting my first Steam run of MGS3 but I cannot be bothered with no alerts for my first Steam run of MGS4, only no kills. I blame all the toys you get later on you can NG+ like the face Octocamo
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>>746510136
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>>746502642
Truvke
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>>746510398
I've seen more young women gush over snake than raiden at this point.
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>>746510398
this makes Old Snake seem almost spiteful, and knowing he didn't even wanna make mgs4 I'm sure it was

That said, I've always loved the old snake design, he cool
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>>746510398
>we need the teenage girl audience
Why did Kojima think this
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>>746509389
>She doesn't even serve them with buttered toast
She serves them with a cigarette which is even better, perfect wife.
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>>746509662
They're "fine" now PW aside. Emulations better but they work fine if you can't be bothered setting it up and like your Steam cloud saves and shit.
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>>746479604
They're like polar opposites. MGS4 had a great story and lore but the gameplay was lacking where MGS5 had absolute horrid story but a lot to do.
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>>746510565
Old Snake definitely isn't spiteful; he's absolutely presented as the kind of "bitter oji-san" look that makes his stake in MGS4's story more sympathetic. portraying him as an old man with lots of gunplay glamour shots and barely avoiding danger probably drew in tons of japanese gamers who had played MGS1/2/3 with younger characters over the years.
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>>746509749
yup kino going full octo latex in act 4
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>>746511417
Not like it came out of nowhere, Liquid very clearly spells out the fast aging coming in the tanker chapter of MGS2.
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>>746481710
I never played it, or the one for the PSP. I forget what it's called.
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>>746509749
there exists a version of this promotional artwork with the reverse models, Snake's face in the background and full model with the mask

I had it on my HDD back in 2008 but I've never been able to find it since then. But I know it was real at one point
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>>746510398
Highly doubt that girl bought mgs2
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>>746483875
Me too!! I was so looking forward to it. I liked the idea of it taking place before Raiden lost his body and he rescued Sunny from the Patriots.
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>>746484516
That's probably because you don't understand what's going on or why. Once you piece everything together it's pretty epic.
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>>746501224
What do you mean?



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