How come there is barely any Advance Wars clones? I know AW is cursed itself but surely someone else can make a game just as good.
>>746481295>How come there is barely any Advance Wars clones?Because they either look like shit (wargroove) or play like shit (Warside) or both. Just play romhacks for singleplayer content and climb the elo ladder on AWBW if you're itching for quite the deep tactical experience.
>>746481295Post your favorites CO themeshttps://youtu.be/ItlMzEvf7Uw?si=XBmsK7P1Xp_VUd_Ohttps://youtu.be/T8lEWH5WBfY?si=w7BQABH90ppFyHcghttps://youtu.be/-P9RrlVE0lA?si=-20du8HWBCM_S_Uw
>>746481295Because AWBW is superior to any other AW games.
>>746482061thanks, I hate it
>>746481295Niche genre. Few people want to play it and fewer still have actually played all 4 mainline games of the series and still want more. Compfags can just play AWBW and probably won't touch any other commercial product similar to HOMM3 fagsThe series doesn't need a clone but an evolution
There's Fire Emblem.
>>746482843Does not play the same as AW, like at all. Not even close
Basically anybody who would be an Advance Wars fan already is; efforts to expand the audience haven't quite worked. That audience is also very faithful to the actual series, so it's fruitless to try and draw them away into fan revival spinoffs, as they recognize nothing will be as good. It's like F-Zero.
There's Nectaris/Military Madness and Daisenryaku. Also Field Commander on PSP.
>>746482061i'd honestly play the advance wars reboot camp over this.Wow this is bad
>>746482772pitch your evolution>>746482843>hurf derf et turn based and tactikz su et da sameretard
Playing through 2 and this it is a breeze compared to 1. Green Earth lab was the only mission that really filtered me.
as much as you fags bitch about it, it basically is just fire emblem which has a ton of derivatives>noooooooooooooooooooo it's different because....... it just is!!!!cope
>>746483257Similar to HOMM3 fags any evolution will just be met with autistic retards who don't want it to change>Why are you adding RPG style mechanics thats just fire emblem!>Why are you adding strategy layers, AW is a tactix gaem!!>What do you mean CO powers slow the game down to a crawl and make long matches take forever, its a staple to da series!!>Why is it set in a different and potentially more interesting universe, AW is cartoony and colourful only! (that one actually happened)But if you want my honest opinion>Make campaign a string of missions, campaign would be 8-10 missions total>Each mission you pick gives you access to a new unit for the campaign (in addition to the standard AW roster), a new statline for a standard unit that can be optionally used to give it new ideas or roles (same idea as how COs currently buff/nerf certain units), and a new CO style ability which you can choose. Every time you select a mission you would have to choose between 3 and the other ones you don't pick you would never get to choose for the rest of the campaign>Each map would have a set of modifiers that change the mission in a way that can encourage certain tactics (fog of war, foot units can enter light tanks etc.)>CO abilities can now only be used once per map>Outside of above, keep terrain and general AW mechanics and interplay between units the same>Completing campaigns (win or lose) gives you currency to spend for stuff in shops like unit skins and OST stuff>Outside of campaign, have tactics/puzzle missions and multiplayer which would work very similarly to how it currently does so oldfags have something to enjoyMany ways you can expand on the complexity of the campaign thing, but idea is to make it the defacto way to play and give it an audience outside of pure tactics gamers
>>746481295The best Advance Wars like game is Aniwars and it isn't even close.
>>746483957That's like saying Civilization and Heroes of Might and Magic are the same game.
>>746484829Thanks for the recommendation.
Tiny Metal exists it just wasn't all that great.
A.I.M. looks to be somewhat faithful with its main claim to fame just being doing Advance Wars for the gooners and cute girl appreciators.
>>746481295>How come there is barely any Advance Wars clones?Lost Frontierhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/928970/Lost_Frontier/Is a hidden gem and the best AW clone imo, shame it's not famous>>746482061>Because they either look like shit (wargroove)Wargroove looked fine imo, the problems were the boring chesslike gameplay and the dogshit story, the story in the sequel was supposedly even worse so i didn't even touch it
>>746481295I also wondered why there weren't many. It's sad, I would buy one or two just for nostalgia sakes.I never played Wargroove but that looks like on the surface at least.
>>746481295There's a bunch of clones. The issue is that most of them look like vomit and thats a huge part of AW's charm.
>>746484971Yeah no problem, it's a solid game.
only played the edgy version and loved it, DS had a decent amount of good turn based strategy games when i think about it>>746485229put it on my wishlist, looks like a fun game to pick up on a sale
because advance wars is a series of brain dead turn based strategy games for toddlers
>>746485873Holy shit OP got btfo harder than ever before.
>>746482061Dumb moolennials didn't understand why Advance Wars looked like a cartoon -- due to limitations. It was clear that the devs actually wanted to go more towards a more appropriate slightly gritty anime aesthetic like with Days of Ruin, not become even more kawaii uguu
>>746482061>Because they either look like shit (wargroove)Wargroove looks great what are you smoking or
>>746481295Because days of ruin was perfect yet normies only want waifu sloppa like fagemblem
>>746481295AW has perfect charm I think it's really difficult to match. I mean look at this shit >>746482061 modern devs are just hopeless.
>>746485835Edgelord AW was the best no contest.
>>746481295Strategy games are already niche.Turn based strategy games are even more niche.Hyper exploitable turn based strategy games like AW are turbo niche.Anyone making “clones” or “spiritual successors” are doing it out of love for the sub-genre.>inb4 FEThat shit is basically a VN with some srpg elements. Save for sharing some very basic concepts it has nothing to do with strategy, let alone AW.
>>746481295because it's a legit strategy game and most people don't want that; they want a faux strategy with rpg elements
>>746485835I would have liked it if the campaign wasnt so shit. Story wise it was fine, maps were just boring and there are maybe like 2 where you get to use all the mechanics
I kinda want to make one myself, but AW clones I've seen don't fill me with confidence.
>>746488379There's a hard mode hack for it, might interest you.
>>746482061I like the artstyle, but damn is this as choppy as Diamond and Pearl on the DS.
>>746481295Probably because it's Fire Emblem for retards. They literally made it because they thought american kids were too stupid to enjoy fire emblem games.
I'd replay them but I suspect it gets a few hours before you get into the meat of the game right?
>>746490234these models need more contrast, maybe some sort of outline and darker shadows.
>>746482495https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HivbtzotFCEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV-ULQEsdcg
>>746483257>pitch your evolutionAdvance Wars 2 that plays like Valkyria Chronicles with DoR style CO powers
>>746482772>The series doesn't need a clone but an evolutionFun fact - the cover was drawn by the same guy who worked on Cortex Command and really likes lowleg panties.
>>746481295>How come there is barely any Advance Wars clones?Because all the devs just copy it one for one, same setting same time period same units same ideas 1-to-1, only one that gave it a unique twist was wargroove and that's what made it successful initially, then they shot themselves in the foot by making every army & CO play the same, which removed variety, then they shot themselves in the foot AGAIN by making the sequel lean in on the performative faggotry bandering instead of leaning on the cool setting with vampires and whatnot. side note but i hate how most war type games have a severe lack of villans, everyone is too fucking friendly, I'm not asking for GOW levels of degeneracy rape and death but give us something to work with.
Is the Switch reboot worth it?Might get it on next sale
So basically Advance Wars is unreproducible because it was the concentration of a handful of japanese devs work over twenty yearsYou can trsce their games back to the NES (yes NES not SNES) and see them get it wrong and refine it over and overMaking it fun goes beyond designing units, movements, attacks etc. It has to have balance and strategy
Enterhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3266580/Apes_Warfare/
Also, Days of Ruin is the peak. Its much more open than AW1 and AW2 where some levels are more like puzzle gaming where you have to hit a trick to winDays of Ruin only really has one level like that, the rest can be won by attrition if necessary
>>746490234Player engagement can be maintained when you make each unit feel unique and important, rather than make them an expendable pawn that is identical to all others. Of course, the game's mechanics require you to sacrifice units for smart strategies. Add in some autistic customization and economic simulation with a little base building. Not in the typical RTS sense in that each base you build limited to the level you build it in. If you conquer a map, the infrastructure you put in the map can continue to aid in the war effort. You can get down into nitty gritty details like the specific small arms allotment for a given infantry unit. For example: >We only have so many of the new assault rifles to distribute to our forces. Give them to the most experienced and reliable units so we can get the most mileage from the new technology. >We have a surplus of captured enemy munitions. Let's design the new rifle to use the same ammo. >These cheap penal units aren't effective at fighting regulars, so lets use them for policing maps with lots of partizan activity. >We don't have a large population, so lets make each unit as strong as possible for the local terrain so we can make the enemy bleed as much as possible for each mile of front they gain through attrition. Of course, you would need advanced levels of autism and a lot of development time to make this all work, but with AW's aesthetic and charm it could be an extremely appealing game, especially if you added some blood, gore, and more traumatizing aspects of war.
>still no AW × FE gameWhy? Imagine FE's gameplay with AW's CO system.
>>746494282the art style alone prevents me from buying it
I played the original games back in the days, and this is only my opinion, but I feel like games moved on and do turn-based combat better. You have Into the Breach and Mewgenics for example. Or if you're willing to go backwards, you can always just play X-com. There's just better turn-based games when you're willing to explore past aesthetics.
