I don't need to be remindered that they can't stop me from owning them if they are already on my machine, notice it still says Owned on the items part though which i defo don't own cause that is all locked to steams server side.

dont care
will never care
cracking steam drm is just modifying a plaintext file anyone can do

What the fuck are you talking about?

gweilos are a second rate citizen according to valve

>muh showcases
No one looks at your profile

>>746490192
>>746490202
>>746490292
>>746490301
>>746490327
Own nothing
Be happy

>>746490397
Oh it was shitposting about that, should have known. Well, I'm out

>Copyright law is broken and it's legally impossible to own media
>It's Valve's fault when they update the language on their storefront so they don't get sued by retards but nothing actually changes about game ownership and Steamworks DRM is still deliberately easy to crack by design

>>746490292
You dont own these games chud you bought a license that can and will be revoked

>>746490986
>and will be revoked
When?

>>746490086
Another masterstroke by based gaben
Valve monopoly for a reason

>>746491047
When you get exposed for being a nazi so you better say trans rights

>>746491047
2028 when the great replacement begins

>>746490986
I still don't know what the fuck you're talking about. What, exactly, did Valve change?

>>746490397
According to these people you didn't own it anyway, changing some words on software around hasn't changed that. Backup your stuff and pirating shit is good, crying over a word change is nothing to anybody.

>>746491198
the text used to same Games Owned. OWNED. ****OWNED****.
now they are reminding everyone that we own nothing, we only rent a temporary licence at the will of valve, which they can and will remove

When are they going to change the “buy” button to “rent”?

>>746491237
So, just to confirm this, you're having a melty just because Valve changed the wording of a profile showcase to be a bit more snappy?

>>746490397
my happiness is not tied to material possessions (foids get the ick from this), so from this angle Klaus is 100% correct, I'm happy regardless if I own things or not

>>746491281
soon surely. valve are a despicable company with endless greed. they are in court fighting many lawsuits at the moment, so it's only a matter of time before "buy game" is changed to "Rent Temporary Fixed Term Licence"

>>746490086
I shop on GOG. Why should i care about Steam?

>>746491398
steam has games and gog will shut down by next year

>>746490086
I mean yeah, on steam you only rent games therefore it's pointless to spend any money there.

>>746491330
he do be having a snappy thoughbeit

>>746491237
Ownership would imply that piracy isn't stealing, sir.
Why couldn't I copy my floppy to my friend if I own the game?
Oh wait, it's illegal. I don't own the game.

>>746490086
Now they should replace Games to Licenses :)

>>746491597
why would you need to own it to make a copy? if i write out the words from a book and give it to a friend, that isn't piracy

>>746490202
you can only crack the game if it's on your machine when it's stolen and your steam is offline so they don't "update" and delete it.
or if you pre-cracked everything you own.
have you? I doubt it. so you're not safe from anything.

why do I need to own digital games? It just needs to turn on when I click the play button

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>>746490086
They're legally not allowed to mislead the customer in thinking they own the games they buy on Steam.

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>>746490202
>i can pirate what i bought afterwards so it's ok
Valvegan schizophrenia

>>746490086
because it's meaningless, everyone has thousands of slop games gotten from free keys

>>746491874
You're describing an act of copyright violation.
It do be like that.

I’m sure pcfags will make a huge stink out of this like they for PlayStation

>>746490873
>It's Valve's fault
Yes

>>746491792
kek it's gonna happen too and steamdrones will defend it and when steam eventually revokes licenses or delists "owned" games they'll simply state that it's just a license, you don't own jack

>>746494529
Any day now!
You sound like the faggots saying vaccines will totally kill you, any day now.

>tech illiterates throwing a fit over wording when whatever games they have are also just licenses and those corpos are actively hiding they're licenses

oy vey!

they goyim are starting to notice
quick! spam /v/ with culture war threads until the goys stop asking questions

>>746493585
yes, piracy is a counterbalance and a discouragement to take your games away
your console plastic doesn't mean shit with all the DRM you have to go through
reminder that Bloodborne runs at 30fps still and you can't change it
nice ownership you have there

>>746490086
>Steam removed the “Owned” filter from the games list.
Never forget.

If buying a game isn't ownership, then piracy isn't theft.

can't blame Indians for this one... how is /v/ gonna cope?

>i don't care btw
>i can just pirate the game that i bought
>steam is better than consoles so i will give Gabe a pass for jewing me

choose your cope

Time to become an epicchad instead

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>>746490986
not concerned

>>746494767
it's not hard to forget when redditors like yourself keep parroting it in every thread

>>746494759
https://www.nexusmods.com/bloodborne/mods/252

>>746494809
>how is /v/ gonna cope?
we would have to be in ww3 or some other earth-shattering event for valve to suddenly revoke games and nuke their platform.

>>746494972
now install that mod on the physical copy you think you own without bypassing its DRM

>>746495025
i did it 4 years ago when i played Bloodborne... you seem retarded

>>746495025
you install the mod onto your PS4, not on the game disc you tech illiterate monkey

>>746490873
1. DRM free platforms like GOG, Itch.io and many other methods like piracy exist to stick the finger to valve, we as in people who want freedom don't have to give valve money if they want to push DRM

2. Until cracking a game on steam is as easy as clicking a single button, it will never be better than real ownership. Even a Blu-ray is easier to crack than a steam game.

3. Even if you could theoretically crack every single game, with a single click, or automatically, it wouldn't matter, because you're still signing into always online account. Even if you disconnect your Internet you don't know what's going on in the client.


So, do you REALLY want to give your money to them? Because I'm not going to.

>>746495102
>without bypassing DRM

>>746491874
People used to get killed for doing that in the past you know that right?

>publishers think they own data
lol

>>746495262
why am i not allowed to bypass the DRM? i own the console and the game.. i can do whatever i want with my possessions

>>746495198
>>746495386
if you allow bypassing DRM then you have nothing to complain about when it comes to steam, the process takes 30 seconds where you just replace a single file
meanwhile console jailbreaks take years and permanently alter the console

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So why do they have to specify it's a license?

>>746495447
they don't, they're just honest unlike gog, epic and consoles

>>746495439
ok? did i said you can't do that? you are the retard that claim that its impossible to play Bloodborne in 60fps

>>746495447
Californian legislation

>>746495521
I specified not bypassing the DRM you nigger
that's the condition that gives muh ownership any value

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>>746494929
I pray for the day steam removes or paywalls something I've bought.
I'm not brown skinned you see, so I need a casus belli to pirate every game for the rest of my life. It just won't feel right before that.

>they are no longer lying to me
oh no
anyway

>>746495447
They don't. Where did you get the idea they have to?

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>>746495723
are you retarded?

>>746495447
Cause the Rothschilds won.

>>746495781
Okay, where does it say that they have to put this there? Who is forcing them? How did you get the idea that they were forced to do this, rather than just chose to clarify their terms on their own?

>>746495862
>Steam added a checkout warning stating that digital purchases grant a license rather than ownership to comply with a California state law.

are you steamdrones incapable of using google?

>>746495862
are you going to to have a melty?

https://www.ign.com/articles/steam-now-warns-customers-theyre-buying-a-license-not-a-game-before-they-continue-to-payment

>>746495447
It's mandatory in the EU and thus they rolled it out globally so they don't have to maintain multiple copies of Steam. The people who replied to you saying that they don't are dumb cunts.

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>>746494809
>i don't care btw
>i can just pirate the game that i bought
>steam is better than consoles so i will give Gabe a pass for jewing me
All of this, but unironically. You consolegroids lost the right to cry about digital media when you supported sony and nintendo for doing it. We didn't forget you buying Pokemon Firered and Leaf Green en masse. You damn hypocrites should be beaten until you're black and blue.

>>746496223
hey Steamdrone, Gabe started it 20 years ago.. why are you blaming consoles now? pathetic shill

>>746496326
Gabe doesn't force you to only get games from steam like consoles
Gabe doesn't require having an extremely limiting console operating system installed
Gabe doesn't artificially decide you can't play old games in order to sell them to you again

>>746496437
>Gabe doesn't force you to only get games from steam like consoles
you are so low IQ that you think buying a game outside steam matters when you LITERALLY have to to use fucking steam to play the fucking game

>>746496556
what the fuck are you talking about? have you ever used a computer?

>>746496642
You absolute retard. You can't play games outside of steam.

>>746490086
Should have bought GOG

>>746496724
>>746496556
That's strange. My GOG installer of Serious Sam doesn't require steam. My copy of Starsector doesn't require steam either. And this new fangame I'm enjoying (Mega Man X regenesis) doesn't even need a launcher to download, let alone play.

You okay anon?

>>746490292
>What the fuck are you talking about?
I think OP wants you to hoard useless plastic.

>>746496724
yes, you can, you clueless retard, by buying them from somewhere else

>>746495206
no one normal cares about this, as soon as the next new friendslop game comes out people will go buy it by the millions anyway

>>746496770
>you can play these indies and abondnware games outside of Steam

ok how about real games?

>>746490086
The pirate sites don't have this feature so i wouldn't know

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>>746496960
>BUT WHERE'S MY GUN AND BALL SLOP AND WALKING SIMS?

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>>746490086
because you don't own them fag and never did, you rent a license and in theory Valve or the developer/publisher can take it away and what are you going to do about it, sue a corporation who print money like Valve? hahaha, so back in the cück chair

>>746497063
>IM MOVING THE GOALPOST

kys, fuck me for ever replaying to drones

>>746497095
>replaying to drones
GOOD MORNING SAAR

>>746496759
You own your games on gog just as much as you own them on steam
>b-b-but drm free
Irrelevant

>>746497095
>Gets assblasted by facts and logic
>n-no you
Stay mad and make sure to buy the new PS6 when it comes out

>engaging with Steam cultists

its like talking to a wall, Gabe could rape them and they will still say it better getting raped in the ass then to own a console
they will say that they own their games
they will say that Steam is not a monopoly even tho you have to use it to play 99% of PC games

and their only comeback to the Gabe rape is that they can crack the game that they BOUGHT

>>746490086
They should have changed it to say "rented" or "licensed to play"

>>746497697
Your opinion has been noted and placed into storage for safe keeping.

>>746491281
There's no "buy" button. It's "Add to Cart" and "Continue to Payment"

>>746497819
nice reddit reply

>>746495206
>Until cracking a game on steam is as easy as clicking a single button, it will never be better than real ownership. Even a Blu-ray is easier to crack than a steam game.
nigga anything that doesn't use third party DRM can be cracked by literally just dropping a .dll into the game's .exe folder

>oh nyo i don't physically own this game!
>in an unlikely dystopian future i might lose access to these games!

when that day comes i will, at most, be slightly annoyed.

>>746497875
Whoa whoa, easy there man. Consolegroids get easily confused by things like "folder" and "exe" and "dll".

>>746490086
Why would GabeN do that?

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>>746490086
They've made a bunch of stupid changes.
In the new wish list you can't sort selections by ascending order, so you can't easily see the oldest games, you have to scroll all the way down.
When the wishlist first changed you could right click entries to get the ID > copy url for products that were removed, now you just get ID 0.
The personal calendar is retarded because I will NEVER care about a game that isn't already released.
They broke the product store page on firefox, only the reel with screenshots/videos, the actual display/player just vanishes after the page is finished loading. Why the fuck did they change it at ll?

Shittification isn't coming, it's already here.

how do you bypass steam drm to run games without it?

>>746498234
i also noticed the Steam website is fucked on Firefox

i think most of the goyim use Chrome so no one even noticed

>>746498234
It never ceases to amaze me how they keep making the store design worse every new update

>>746497929
>"REEEEE CONSOLES" out of nowhere
Seething turdie lol

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>>746498234
>>746498408
>>746498424
You sure this isn't a problem on your end? My firefox runs it just fine.

>console wars drama thread full of retards who purposefully ignore the fact that steam or any pc game distributor cannot remove your game from your possession after it's downloaded
>consoletards bing bing one-up wahoo box can get an update sent out and deny reading a specific disc/cartridge
>but I'm supposed to be mad about steam being up front and honest about software licensing while the rest of the industry purposefully avoids calling it how it is (unless where it's legally required)

>>746497697
>runs away from the conversation like a little bitch
if you can call consoles and gog ownership then you can call steam ownership

>>746498765
>STILL defending Gabe while calling consolefags retarded
>Still fearmongering about muh updates blocking games
>A-at least he's honest!
The absolute state of these cultists

>>746490292
"your computer"
"this computer"

>>746499069
this personal computer

>>746499041
You snoys literally got all of your digital movies taken from you, without recompense. You know how hard that is to do on PC, when you can make infinite airgapped copies of your data? And even in a worst case scenario, this is exclusively an issue with steam. GOG can do even less to take your installers away.

>>746491925
Because someone can then choose to make you unable to turn it on when you click the play button

>>746490986
>You dont own these games chud you bought a license that can and will be revoked
Corporations say they can revoke the license at any time, for any reason. This isn’t legal, however. Digital games aren’t services. Just because you sold a digital game doesn't mean you didn’t sell a product. What digital stores can do is stop providing you with services (such as unlimited downloads), but they can't simply decide that your license is no longer valid for any reason.
Even Amazon, which is considered an evil corporation, rarely revokes a license, and when it does, it's because of some legal issue that would be even worse, like when they sold 1984 without a license. And even in that case, Amazon refunded everyone who bought that version of the book.

In short: if you buy software, the license to use it becomes yours. A corporation can’t come to your house and steal your license, so it also can't simply revoke it online and consider your purchase null and void. What companies can do is provide services, as Adobe does, for example, where you license the use for a fixed period, but that’s not what any of these digital game stores do.

>>746495447
If they didn't it would be very painful

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>>746495206
UH OH STINKY
>but GOG can't take my downloaded games away from me
Steam can't take mine from me.
>but that's piracy
So is keeping copies of software the license has been revoked from.
>licenses apply to you, not me, sweaty :3
You're either dumb or a hypocrite or both.

>>746498234
Why do they always make things worse? I thought Valve were the good guys.

>>746491375
>valve are
Ah, it's a non-American. Of course you're a faggot.

>>746496556
I can play vintage story just fine?

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>>746491375
this you, lil guy?

>>746498713
I can only assume they migrated to some ultranewuwuchroomglemanifestv4 web standard (because desktop steam is just an electron browser too) that older firefox versions don't support.
Never needed to change it but they did anyway. Wonder how the W7 chads are faring.

>>746495206
You don't legally own games on gog either, it's a license there too. Obviously it's easier to engage in copyright infringement if there is no drm as is the case on gog, but that's different from ownership - which you don't have.

>>746500949
you don't legally own games anywhere
the entire conversation is simply retarded, it's all faggotry trying to call others not owners so they make exceptions for their platforms
either we all own games because we adapt definitions to accommodate for software licensing or none of us do since it's all licenses

>>746496326
Because there seem to be console users who are extra mad about it while Steam users just chill and pay for the convenience instead of having plastic on their shelves?

>>746501347
This. It's pretty much entirely optional for PC users. Even paying for games is a courtesy that's given, and isn't even required to play games. Companies don't have the ability to take our games, so legalities and technicalities mean nothing.

>>746496960
MS has a lot of games, and Epic has a library comparable to Steam. They both suck, but they exist for people that don't want to use Steam (which are called "faggots").

A lot of the shills and generally insane people tend to go silent all at once, as if it's lunch time or shift change in their sweatshop.

>>746501810
It's sunday..

>>746501912
>people don't work on sunday, especially in India
I'm in three threads with 3 different psychopaths, and they all went silent at once, and I'd bet money on their posts starting again at the same time.

>>746502043
You sure you aren't the one being psychopath?

>>746502093
Take some DN and chill.

>>746502210
What is DN?

>>746503965
Dese Nuts

>>746499431
``valve,, is not a monolithic entity. it is a collection of jewish, persian and russian men gathered together to scam and steal money from their clueless audience. i was correct to say valve are, because I am talking about the collective of corrupt scam artists

I don't get the problem and why Valve is getting the stinky finger for it.

Isn't it the publisher who decides when to pull their games off the stores and not Valve? Wouldn't it be easier to simply blacklist or boycott whatever Company decides to say fuck you into your face? They can have it written down but enforcing it at the cost of customer faith doesn't sound that good to me.

>>746490086
It’s because that label is reserved for little timmy and his epic fail store

>>746501810
steamJEETs went to bed. they need to be fresh and ready to go for monday morning working the report queue, refund tickets and shilling valve some more.

So steam and PC gaming are evil. I got that. Who are we supposed to support? Who lets us actually own our games? And I mean full ownership, that means modifying and tinkering with the files of the game. None of this "we sold you DRM" bullshit. Epic and GOG are out because their license agreements are just as bad as steam. Nintendo, sony and microsoft don't even let you jailbreak their consoles without banning you, their games are filled with DRM and copy protection. What else is there?

>>746505161
are you the faggot that defends mobile marketplaces while calling valve jeets with no evidence?

>>746505441
why would I defend mobile anything? retard

>>746505508
idk, just asking whether it's one mental patient or multiple sharing this hallucination of valve liking or hiring jeets when they don't even support hindi

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>>746490086
What happens if I pirate all my games and store them on a SSD? Does that count as ownership since corpos cant revoke it?

>>746505628
they aren't hiring jeets because they respect them or want their custom. they hire jeets and SEAnigs because they are cheap

>>746504823
>ESL can't even do quotes correctly

>gathered together to scam and steal money from their clueless audience
by... letting them be as informed about what they buy as possible? consoles basically don't have refunds, epic just has stars

>>746505654
Consolegroids are afraid to admit it, but you own the games if they can be secured against online verification and played offline. You even put it on a physical medium like an SSD, it's the very definition of ownership.

>>746505654
no jokes, all memes aside, the terms and conditions say that you are supposed to destroy any back up copies if they revoke your licence. valve could take you to court if they removed your licence and found out you still had the game files.
they wouldn't do it though because they don't care if you're stealing ass creed or gta6

>>746505669
and your evidence of them hiring jeets is?

>>746505784
the valve shilling on /v/ only happens between 8am and 8pm india time
if you ever contact steam support they always sign off with fake pseudo-russian names like kristoff

>>746491910
you just move it to another file

>>746491349
But you're still a paypig for valve, because you're a cuckold.

>>746505910
so nothing but completely unrestrained mental illness, got it
try harder next time, that excuse can be used on everything

>>746505996
white people want to reward others for providing value to them
you wouldn't understand

>>746494759
Then why shouldn't I just pirate in the first place, shill?

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>>746506004
t. pic rel

>>746493585
>Bix nood I takes dat

>>746494954
>Steam paypig triggered

>>746495206
>ZOG
>DRM free
>owning
LOL LMAO
india ain't sending their best

>>746493585
Funny thing is, while it's not a defense, "people enjoy surprises" in the context that people just like opening loot boxes, is an objectively correct statement. A lot of people just enjoy collecting and owning things. Some enjoy gambling, trading cards, even ultimate teams in sports games are now basically collecting players by buying loot boxes. I know a lot of people, even some of my friends, that hate CS2, but still regularly buy keys and keep thousands of dollars in their inventories. Card games with generous card acquisition die in favor of games like MTG and HS where you have to pay monthly to keep up with the other players.

>>746506073
valve doesn't post job listings
try harder

>>746505276
The only winning move is not to play. Give up on not just video gaming but any entertainment that's based around intellectual property that you are simply force-fed without any control besides turning the screen off. That's not just visual media (movies/tv) but even physical entertainment like tabletop or card games. Fanfiction is also illegal btw, just that it is too extensive and grassroots to prosecute, but an IP owner will sure as hell hit anything big enough to be worth money.

The only thing left to do is learn practical skills and make your own shit.

>>746506217
do you really think they don't outsource the CS jobs? are you 12? have you ever worked in your life?

>>746506270
>just believe conjecture of a deranged retard with a hateboner for valve with zero sources and pure schizo ramblings
how about no

>>746506067
You can do that without being a paypig for steam.
Steamies have a collector mentality, which is why they spend billions on games they never play.

>>746497274
>should have bought |DYING PLATFORM|
uh-huh
imagine being so cucked to pay for free games

>>746490192
>>746490202
>>746490873
Reminder that Gabe/Valve went to court in French to argue AGAINST the fact that you own digital games.
And they won.
So no, by command of your Lord you in fact own jack shit nothing.

>>746506378
by getting inferior and outdated gog versions? why the fuck would i go for a shittier service that's on the verge of going broke?

>>746494974
Not really, they just need to go public.

>>746506342
ok steam timmy

>>746498408
if you switched from Chrome you're the goyim btw

>>746501457
You mean people with self respect, not paypig troons.

>>746506419
they went against reselling because it would demolish digital markets
and they were right
30 to 50% of physical gets resold
that number would be much higher when reselling takes seconds and requires no physical movement of an object

>>746496223
>Paypig tranny simps for a storefront
Kek

>>746499013
My physical console games for my switch can never be taken away from me, though.

>>746506467
ok, since we don't need sources i can just accuse you of being a low iq schizophrenic tranny nigger looking for excuses to get shit for free and be correct?

>>746506476
chrome didn't exist when firefox was created. if you ever used chrome, ever, for any reason, you are the goy

>>746506694
you sound very mad about anyone criticizing valve. curious.

>>746506660
see >>746499545
says it right there, revocable and nintendo may render the software permanently unusable
and yes, it's possible, all your nintendo carts have unique identifiers and nintendo can just tell your console to not read them

>>746506432
No, I mean not spending billions on games you fags never play.
If you just wanted to support developers you would buy games occasionally but not everything.
You have a collector mentality.

>>746506764
I can just disconnect from the Internet, problem solved.

>>746506738
>calling anyone else mad while going on a schizo crusade with absolutely no reason or evidence behind it
no self awareness to speak of
the moment you throw reason out the window like you did you enable it
so yes, you're a nigger schizo tranny because i say so and you have to agree with it, reality be damned

>>746506764
>nintendo can just tell your console to not read them
tech illiterate fool. this isn't possible, and if it was, you would just need to avoid connecting your console to the internet.

>>746506880
ok steam timmy

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>>746506419
Nothing is stopping sony or nintendo from letting you resell your digital games. So go ahead, sell me your eshop copy of Pokemon Fire Red.

>>746506867
>>746506916
>just don't use core functionality and you own it
lol

>>746490086
Meh, I'll eat my words when I lose access to a single game after 15+ years on Steam.

>>746497597
Cope troon.
There is no reason to use steam.

>>746506793
>supporting games is bad because... you're not living in a communist regime where you need to ration everything

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>>746499069
Dumb zoomer.
Also the reason they did this is because more people have multiple PCs now.

Its weird seeing /v/tards try to be consumer advocates when nobody on this board has any principles whatsoever.

>>746491237
So what, you preferred being misled and lied to?

So there doing the same thing they've always done but calling it something different because of legal pressure?

>>746506916
is the irony of calling anyone timmy while accusing others of being jeets not lost to you?

>>746506954
what core functionality? why do I need online functions to play zelda or mario?

>>746507095
Steam should follow the law whenever it benefits me and should break the law when it benefits me as well.

>>746506954
>core functionality
Internet is not required for most games I play.
>>746507012
If you wanted to support them you wouldn't buy a shit ton of them at 5$ price.
You would buy at full price.
No, you want to collect digital games.
Say cuck mentality as Funko pop collectors. You want to hoard useless junk.

>>746507186
>Say
*Same

>>746490873
buddy valve aint your friend, reminder that they only gave us refunds because australian consumer rights took them to court and won. Valve was fighting against having to give people the right to get refunds.

You shouldnt celebrate that valve doesnt want you to own games and you are just paying for a digital license.

also the digital license shit is bullshit, because that means i cant give away/sell my account since i dont own the games and the license is tied to me.

>>746506953
>whatabout [other company]
The typical valve drone response

>>746507186
>5$
third worlder confirmed
stop being mad that first worlders are richer than you
you do know that it's the developers and publishers who put games on sale, right?

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>>746507186
>If you wanted to support them you wouldn't buy a shit ton of them at 5$ price.
Super Mario's Bing Bing Wahoo Adventure #32789382 is not worth 80 dollars. Best I can do is 5 dollars.

>>746507258
Kek, YOU'RE the ones who do that, paypig.
Way to miss the point.
>>746507280
Then you want to collect digital junk, not support devs.

>>746507186
>>746507168
>buy Dusk Bloods
>don't play it online
>it becomes an 80 dollar paper weight

oops

>>746507168
>>746507186
>i le own it, it's just that i'm being extralegally controlled by a company and their closed source and extremely limited operating system not to snitch on me

>>746507251
>You shouldnt celebrate that valve doesnt want you to own games and you are just paying for a digital license.
Every digital storefront gives you a license, even the ones that sell you the .exe with no DRM. Even physical disks are a license with the license attached to the disk. This is very clearly an issue of copyright law and nothing to do with digital storefronts being innately anti-consumer.

>>746507332
>not support devs
The devs will sell the games at the price I demand, on the platform I demand it on. Otherwise they shan't be seeing my money.

>>746494954
YOU are the reddit.

>>746507359
>>buy Dusk Bloods
you lost me. why would i buy the latest rollslop cashgrab? extraction shooter battle royale live service slop in 2026? really?

>>746507332
who? no one is pointing a gun at developers telling them to sell their games on sale
you're actually upset at voluntary interactions that don't hurt anyone in any way because you're seething with envy

>>746507359
>>746507373
I don't play multiplayer slop in the first place, sorry.
Multiplayer games have an inherently unlimited lifespan either way.
>>746507420
If you wanted to support devs you wouldn't be buying games at $5.
Just admit that you are a paypig cuck who wants to collect digital goods.

>>746507507
Nah
My point is that you guys have a digital hoarder mentality / paypig mentality.
If you just wanted to support devs, you wouldn't buy so many games at $5 or $10.
You are paypigs for steam and want to collect digital goods.

>>746507642
>i'm in a cage guarded by nintendo but it's ok because i voluntarily entered it because nintendo can't hurt me while i'm in it
cope of the century

>>746507642
>If you wanted to support devs you wouldn't be buying games at $5.
If I didn't want to support them, I'd just pirate the game. I do want to support them, but on my terms.

>>746507747
it's called low time preference, you think about playing those games in the future instead of immediately instead of buying as you go
it's a white thing, you should look it up

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These threads are fun because it always comes down to OP fighting the entire thread like a tard.

>>746507748
>>i'm in a cage
I own the console and can use it for my intended reason for buying it (playing single player games)
I also own a pc but I will never use steam.
Because there is no reason to.

>>746507253
We know it's you trannies because none of the other companies that do this shit 10x worse get these retarded daily seethe threads. You're not here because of any belief in ownership or you'd go after them as well. You're here because you're part of some competing tribe throwing a fit, be it a Epic shill or a consolegroid whoever.

>>746507934
Post a screencap of your PC games you "own".

>>746507934
>intended reason
and that intended reason is obeying nintendo's restrictions, explicitly and implicitly
there's no reason to buy nintendo consoles when you can just emulate them without their shit hardware limitations
or is your dignity suddenly out the window when it's not about steam?

>>746507789
$5 of support doesn't really mean anything.
You are a digital hoarder.
>>746507829
But we know that you fags spend billions on games that you never even play.
There is no reason to not just pirate most games and occasionally support the stuff you are really impressed by.

>>746508028
>and that intended reason
No, it's to play my physical single player games, which I can keep doing and no one can take away from me.
Unlike digital games that could be taken away if steam goes public, and have no value.

>>746508034
>$5 of support doesn't really mean anything.
You're right
>pirates the game instead

>>746508028
>there's no reason to buy nintendo consoles when you can just emulate them without their shit hardware limitations
Nintendo does give you a reason to buy their console though.
They often have a selling point like portability, 3d screen, etc.

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>>746498234
>ESL
>Still using Windows 7
Ayylmao

>>746508034
>there's no reason to steal everything on sight
you're brown, i understand that in honor based cultures you steal if you can get away with it but don't project it this hard onto everyone

>>746508125
Yeah, if you wanted to support the game you would buy it at full or half price.
Not $5 though.

>>746508034
>$5 of support doesn't really mean anything.
Then they wouldn't sell it at that price. Clearly the dev is comfortable lowering the price.

>>746508214
>steal
Kek, paypig mentality.
Copying files digitally =\= theft.
You are so cucked, LMAO
Be sure to give all your money to gabe, cuckie

>>746508250
Maybe I don't think the game is worth that price. Like I'd buy the new Star Fox remake if you had the option of stripping away all the stupid additions, and could just enjoy the original game. And you'd buy it for maybe 5 bucks. 50 dollars for an N64 rom with UE5 HIRE THIS MAN graphics is not a selling point.

>>746508303
It's usually really old games that go that low.
Or indie games.
Either way, you are digital hoarders.
There is no reason to support a decade+ old game.
And Indies are already cheaper than normal.

>>746490086
It's okay when Valve does it.

>>746508117
steam games have no actual mechanism or incentive to be taken away
unlike consoles, where they segment each generation and fully control the operating system
steam honors purchases from 20 years ago, letting you play them on new hardware
nintendo wants all carts to just die off and they're selling dogshit emulation of 20 year old games for $20, they don't offer any way to play games outside of aging old hardware they want dead

>>746508182
at the cost of the hardware being limited putrid shit with horrible price/performance
meme features

>>746508379
Then why wouldn't you just pirate it instead of waiting for a sale?
Like I said, you guys have a hoarder mentality.
Especially since games that usually go for $5 are very old and don't really need support anymore.

steam distributes many drm-free games. drm is a publisher's choice.

>>746508313
ah yes, your bank account can't be stolen from because it's just altering a digital string
how about you update your understanding of the law past the popularisation of phones, computers and the internet?

>>746508479
>unlike consoles, where they segment each generation
Completely irrelevant.
I still own my physical switch and can keep using it.
>meme features
Portability is not a meme feature, troon.

Once again, there is no logical reason to use steam unless you are a paypig tranny.

>>746508431
Maybe AAA games should lower their prices accordingly.

>>746508510
>Especially since games that usually go for $5 are very old and don't really need support anymore.
I like the idea of buying them, and unlike your stupid claim of hoarding, I actually play them.

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>>746508609
Do consolefags even own their console when they can't modify it without breaking the console's TOS and getting it remotely bricked by the manufacturer?

>>746508592
>False equivalence
Kek. Digital entertainment is not the same thing as money.

>>746508609
>Completely irrelevant.
having control over your software and choosing your hardware is irrelevant?
maybe if you're retarded

>Portability is not a meme feature, troon.
yes, it is
adults aren't just fucking sitting there doing nothing outside the house for so long they need toys

>>746508656
This guy sounds similar to the guy who calls people PC vegans. He has unironically said "DRM has nothing to do with ownership". This is the consolegroid mentality.

>>746508685
>i-it doesn't count because it destroys my retarded nihilistic argument!

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>>746508621
>and unlike your stupid claim of hoarding, I actually play them.
And yet we know that steam paypigs spend billions on games they never play.
>Maybe AAA games should lower their prices accordingly.
They wouldn't be profitable at such low pieces, poorfag.
>>746508656
>and getting it remotely bricked by the manufacturer?
I own multiple modded consoles and this has never happened to me.

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>>746508013
NTA but there's literally daily Nintendo seethe threads don't be stupid now.

>>746508849
>mobile screenshot
Congrats on revealing to the entire thread that you don't own a PC LMAO.

>>746508849
>They wouldn't be profitable at such low pieces, poorfag.
And whose fault is that for wasting billions on realistic graphics and cinematics and voice actors?

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>>746490397
based

>>746508753
>having control over your software and choosing your hardware is irrelevant?
I have control over both of those things.
I chose to buy a switch, and can use it for as long as I want
You are a paypig cuckold for steam.
>adults aren't just fucking sitting there doing nothing outside the house for so long they need toys
And yet you troons spend billions on digital toys you never even touch.
Portable consoles are great for adults that actually travel and want to play games on bed or want a change of scenery rather than rotting in dark rooms.

>>746503965
>>746504127
GOTTEEEEMMM

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>tendie
>mobile screenshot
>arguing about PC ownership

>>746509021
isn't it amazing how you're so estrogenated that you gave me nothing but catty responses with no actual answers to my questions?
you are a paypig cuckold for nintendo, there's no reason to buy their hardware when emulation exists, simple as
you cry about steam and their drm while endorsing consoles, what a hypocritical troon

>>746508925
Phones are quicker for using 4chan due to the new captcha system.
>>746508940
Yes, making higher quality games requires more money.
Indie trannies overate their games.
Most indie slop is procedurally generated or derivative.

>>746490292
Gog shills have been nonstop ever since Steam clarified that you buy licenses

>>746509163
>Phones are quicker for using 4chan due to the new captcha system.
No they aren't? Nigger do you even have a computer?

>>746509163
>phonenigger can't touch type
lmao

>>746490292
Basically Valve made it clear that you are only buying licenses on Steam, not owning the actual product. And they only did so after the EU forced them to be clear instead of using weasel legalese language.

So now that the cope is that every other option is still worse (true) and that Steam isn't DRM so you can still play offline (technically not true).

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>>746509163
>Yes, making higher quality games requires more money.
>more graphics = more gooder

>>746509159
>there's no reason to buy their hardware
There is, portability. And I like playing my games in bed or taking a walk while playing. Because I actually don't rot in my room all day like you fags.
On the other hand there is no reason to use steam unless you enjoy multiplayer slop.

>>746509284
>And I like playing my games in bed
lazy nigger

>or taking a walk while playing.
actual child, no fucking adult is going to be walking around while playing games

>>746509218
>>746509263
Pc has a three step captcha where as phones have one step

>>746509284
Hey numb nuts, you ever consider that you don't need to bring games with you every single place you go? When I go for my daily jogs, I don't need a Nintendo switch or steam deck glued to my face. Maybe I just want to enjoy nature and touch grass? Then I enjoy games when I get home.

idk man you come across as an addict who needs to be glued to a screen 24/7. No practice in moderation.

>>746509386
it's based on how much you post, faggot
congratulations on outing yourself as a chronic phonenigger

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>>746509386
It only has 3 steps if you don't post on a computer. Post long enough and you only get 1 captcha. Fucking lmao that you would out yourself as a mobile brownposter like this.

>>746509321
>no fucking adult is going to be walking around while playing games
Responsible adults actually do take walks to get some fresh air or to get a change in scenery. I take walks in my back yard, not on the street, obviously.
We also commute more than kids.

>>746509386
>one step
>phonefag thinks giving his email every time he wants to post is..... LE GOOD

>>746509436
>you ever consider that you don't need to bring games with you every single place you go?
Not every place I go, but it's good to not be stuck in one room.

>>746506476
>switched from Chrome

i never used it you dirty JEW

>>746508013
>none of the other companies that do this shit 10x worse get these retarded daily seethe threads
Genuinely delusional, other companies get WAY more seethe threads than valve, valve criticism threads get ypu banned too since its proven mods are vqlve fanboys

>>746490292
no games owned little steamie

>>746508013
Nintendo killing DRM had like 10 threads on /v/ 24/7 for a week.

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>>746509607
>mods run damage control for valve
...in opposite world

>>746509563
Why is it wrong to have a dedicated gaming room? Did your wife get the ick from it, and force you into the cuck shed or something?

>>746509494
>responsible adults go outside only to hold a console with both hands and walk around oblivious to their environment
and the way adults commute is actually more involved, you don't just have a that bus goes to and from school that you sit on every day

>>746509673
>Why is it wrong to have a dedicated gaming room
Because being able to play in bed or in other parts of the house is convenient.
I also have a dedicated gaming room.

>>746509458
I think a lot also don't enable 4chan cookies so they always get the most cancerous captches as though they were a first time user (which every site must now treat as a 1,000,000 requests per second AIgent)

>>746509670
>Half are bait threads that just get deleted
Meanwhile anti-Nintendo and Sony threads just stay up forever despite being blatant console warring.

>>746509676
>you don't just have a that bus goes to and from school that you sit on every day
Kek, amerifat alert.
In actual developed countries we have robust public transit.

>>746509772
>Because being able to play in bed or in other parts of the house is convenient.
I can do that with a PC, though. You'd know that if you had one. Infact I'm doing it right now.

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>>746509670
Nope just the real world

>>746509454
>>746509458
>>746509536
Kek, so you fags sit in front of your computer all the time?
You must be fat.

>>746509890
>here's what's happening right now
>COUNTERPOINT SCREENSHOT FROM 13 YEARS AGO
is everything ok?

>>746509890
>still spamming this screencap
reminder that this fag could prove he was a janny in the first post by screencapping the report queue. Instead he deletes his own post in a different thread after samefagging.

>>746509841
>can do that with a PC, though. You'd know that if you had one. Infact I'm doing it right now.
Laptops can overheat in bed.
Plus you can't use them while standing or walking, and they need to be plugged in because the battery doesn't last long.

>>746509910
what, are you too retarded to make a comfortable pc setup?

>>746510004
>Laptops can overheat in bed.
I'm using a desktop PC. You think I'm restrained to sitting in a chair when playing on a PC? Haha.

If anything it's important to be able to utilize multiple positions when enjoying a PC. I have a standing position, several seats, and my bed. And I can enjoy my Desktop PC with all of them. Helps keep the blood flow circulating by switching between them.

>>746510056
It's not a matter of comfort, it's a matter of being locked in one place / room.

>>746509829
>i am so poor that i need to use public transport but it's ok because i can bing bing wahoo!

>>746510096
you choose where that room is, dumbass
all you need for a pc setup is a seat and a flat surface for a mouse

>>746510096
>you must be 24/7 posting like me
>i post from the toilet, from the bathroom, from the iphone factory i work in, from the favela, from the prison cell after i rape
ok brownoid

>>746510094
>I'm using a desktop PC. You think I'm restrained to sitting in a chair when playing on a PC? Haha.
You probably use a second monitor or streaming system that can be a pain to set up. Streaming also creates latency.
With a portable console I can go anywhere in the house or commute with it.

>>746510096
>>746510207
One room is better for gaming, though. You can eliminate glare and sources of discomfort in a controlled environment. The same can't be said when you play portable. I'd rather have one room where I can comfortably game, then drag a portable around constantly.

>You probably use a second monitor or streaming system that can be a pain to set up
Wrong again! I use a simple setup where I can swivel my Tv around at will.

>I can go anywhere in the house
But why would you?

>>746510130
Public transport is not inferior in actual developed countries.
>>746510187
Yeah but you're still stuck inside it.
>>746510203
4chan is something I use only on the toilet or when I have nothing better to do.

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Why spend money beyond games on steam?

>>746510336
>when I have nothing better to do
every waking moment of your day

>>746509957
>literal proof
>uh uh uh uh but image is old!!!! So that means they all left and are now all Epic fanboys!!!!
Holy copium

>>746510287
>But why would you?
Blood circulation, getting fresh air, walking, not having to pause my gaming session while getting a bite to eat downstairs.

>>746510207
>muh latency
Moonlight don't have much muh latency
A pair wifi dongle are not expensive

>>746510336
public transport is inferior everywhere
enjoy your dogshit seats and noise

and it doesn't fucking matter, i'd rather have a comfortable setup than fidget around and stare at a tiny screen

>>746510471
>Blood circulation, getting fresh air, walking
You don't need a portable game for that.

>not having to pause my gaming session
So you're an addict who immediately becomes irate if you're not constantly shoving bing bing wahoo in your face.

>>746510430
if jannies were steam shills then we wouldn't have daily threads like this, you fucking moron, basic fucking logic filters you
yes, sources age, cope all you want about it

>>746510520
That's your subjective opinion.
I prefer portables.
Public transit is better to me because I don't have to drive, and I can do stuff en route.
>>746510581
No, I just like using my time efficiently. I have limited free time.

Anyways, I've posted enough in this thread.
Bye.