>>746531604
>>>/vg/

honestly seeing foreign communities get into western games is always a really surreal experience. Like seeing the very very niche japanese fanbase for quake 4 for instance. Since the average game in their market is so different from what we get inundated with, it's kind of neat seeing their perspective, even if sometimes they have really shit opinions.

>>746531992
Sorry anon, this isnt a general?

>>746531604
I can't believe it took them this long to get a japanese translation, all the other translations took a few months or a year, japanese can't be that hard, right?
Anyway I do hope the translation brings more atention to UTY, even if they might only now the characters from the updated sprites

>>746531604
I wish I could get back to work right now, but my wrists have developed Toby syndrome.

>>746532349
>I can't believe it took them this long to get a japanese translation, all the other translations took a few months or a year, japanese can't be that hard, right?
Honestly I have no idea. I know to me trying to learn it, it was insurmountable, but I might just be stupid.
but yeah seeing some new attention on it would be good, especially from a community that treats the bullying shit western communities do much differently.

>>746532062
>Japanese fanbase for quake 4 for instance
I thought japs were alergic to FPS games?

>>746532062
>even if sometimes they have really shit opinions.
Such as?

>>746532550
most are, that's why I mention it being very niche. there's a small number of FPS fans over there and they get stuff that we were calling "brown an bloom" and call it a hidden gem because it's so different from what they were used to.
>>746532624
Such as their takes on the metroid series. I don't think they've ever thought too strongly of it, and I'm pretty sure other m was their best selling one? I don't know how dread did actually so I may be wrong now.

>>746532469
Sorry to hear that anon, I hope it feels better soon. Make sure not to over exert it.

>>746532530
>Honestly I have no idea. I know to me trying to learn it, it was insurmountable, but I might just be stupid.
There must be something about Japanese because DRY1 got a chinese translation before UTY could get a japanese one.
>but yeah seeing some new attention on it would be good, especially from a community that treats the bullying shit western communities do much differently.
The japanese also make their own fangames with wacky ideas, like that one about a nuke that's about to drop in the Underground so you must escape before it drops, I wonder if we will see more absurd AUs like that for Yellow.

>>746532469
>but my wrists have developed Toby syndrome.
Are your wrists writing yuri on thei own?

>>746532798
>There must be something about Japanese because DRY1 got a chinese translation before UTY could get a japanese one.
that's honestly insane to me. There must be. I know that kanji and whatever chinese calls kanji because it's escaping me right now, are a pain to learn, but maybe chinese is structured in a way that makes it a bit easier to pick up? I know that japanese has a lot of homophones because a lot of phonetics were dropped over the centuries from it's chinese roots (also a large part of why the language is so pun heavy).
> like that one about a nuke that's about to drop in the Underground so you must escape before it drops, I wonder if we will see more absurd AUs like that for Yellow.
honestly yeah I'd be down for some absurdity like that. might be fun

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I'm still thinking on that Hellescape game and how something that's meant to be original can resemble a fangame so much, I should give the game a try one day, mostly because I've been playing more fangames recently.

>>746533685
THOSE FUCKING LIPS

I'd be curious to hear what it's like when you do play it, though I doubt I'll give it the time myself. I've been letting myself spend more time on playing various fangames lately but there's a good amount of stuff I still just skip.

>>746532958
No, the other syndrome, where they start hurting for literally no reason on their own.

>>746532958
fuck, he's got the evil dead hand except its obsessed with yuri instead of murder.

>>746534016
>>746533685
You just know the artist draws bimbo tf comics on his alt

>>746534206
> except its obsessed with yuri instead of murder
Honestly, I think that's worse

>>746534361
if your hand causes you to yuri, better to cut it off, than for the whole of you to be cast into the pits of tobert.

>>746534361
>>746534485
What if it spreads? maybe cutting it off is the most sensible choice

>>746534552
Makes me glad I just have wristile dysfunction instead.

>>746534016
>I'd be curious to hear what it's like when you do play it, though I doubt I'll give it the time myself.
It will take a while before I play it, I'm mostly curious because of it being Not!Deltarune, there might be something fun there at least one original idea
>>746534296
I don't know why the artist thought giving her those bimbo lips was a good idea, from what I've seen the character is pretty much a Toriel reskin, so maybe they are into bimbo Toriel

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Which fangame will be the next yellow?

>>746535263
I still have hopes for Wildfire

>>746534720
>It will take a while before I play it, I'm mostly curious because of it being Not!Deltarune, there might be something fun there at least one original idea
yeah fair. I know that I post harshly in regards to this game but I mean I'd be curious if they were inspired to add some interesting ideas to it. after all if it's a fangame I'd give it that much grace right?
It's just easy to be a bit skeptical when it carbon copies but then tries to call itself original.

It's like how people think that so many games are "quirky earthbound ripoffs" but very few actually are, and the ones that actually try to be near 1:1 earthbound in a box that's not labeled earthbound fly under that radar.
>>746535263
I would really like Naranja to somehow take that crown. I know naranjanon has a lot of work ahead of him, and no shade on wildfire, but well, I like what I'm seeing from naranja a lot.

>>746534016
>>746534296
>>746534720
I think there's something to be said about adding lipstick to anthro characters, kinda like the debate about anthros not looking bald despite having no hair, but prominent lips/lipstick is a less common feature among these characters compared to hair.

>>746535263
Probably either cooking with kindness or kindred spirits since they seem a decent ways in development. I don’t fucking know what’s happening with wildfire but even if/when it releases it probably won’t have AS much impact as yellow purely because it’s protag blatantly doesn’t align with deltarune’s “canon” orange. Also weird to know that future fangames will likely just ape deltarune’s human designs over original ones.

>>746535263
Futility will shadowdrop tomorrow and fully overshadow the other fangames, to the point the rest of the fangame devs will decide to cancel their projects knowing they will never reach a similar level of quality

>>746535635
yeah I can see that. I think like uh, take rivet for instance. you can see her lips a bit, especially in that one wink animation people used to post a lot, and it looks slightly odd but still kind of cute, but I think with lipstick it would hit me with "what manner of harlot is this?"
artstyle probably also has an effect.

>>746535739
>there's no design document because the dev decided to simply skip to making a complete game in record time (with great ease I might add).

>>746535612
>and the ones that actually try to be near 1:1 earthbound in a box that's not labeled earthbound fly under that radar.
Mind giving some examples? The only game that I can think of that fits that description is Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass.

>>746535835
No fangame dev can go from nothing to a completed game that fast (with the sole exception of Futility dev of course)

>>746535870
ah actually pulsating mass was the one that I was thinking of. I know there are some others but I'd be lying if I said I knew others names off hand.
which kind of plays into what I'm saying, since the ones that are less direct are the ones people always bring up and call that.

I've heard some good things about pulsating mass so it's not really a bad thing to be so directly inspired if the game is good.

>>746536040
The Rohan Kishibe of fangames. Truly I kneel. He saved us from the damage that seeing his manuscript would have caused.

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>>746535635
Roxy from FNAF looks alright with lipstick

>>746535612
>yeah fair. I know that I post harshly in regards to this game but I mean I'd be curious if they were inspired to add some interesting ideas to it. after all if it's a fangame I'd give it that much grace right?
Apparently they are reworking the entire demo based on feedback because people complained about the game being too similar to Deltarune, that only makes me more interested in trying to current build.
>It's just easy to be a bit skeptical when it carbon copies but then tries to call itself original.
Sometimes I wonder what was the thought process of making the first area look like a pallet swap of the scarlet forest.

>>746535612
>I would really like Naranja to somehow take that crown.
It most likely will be another game, even if Naranja and Wildfire manage to come out I don't see either game being developed before some of the other fangames, they can be "The third Yellow" but something like CWK might become the second one.

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>>746536206
The animatronics are kind of ugly so adding lipstick doesn't change Roxy's desing much really.
speaking of which, we have an example of an anthro with lipstick in Undertale, Bratty uses it, but she doesn't really have lips

>>746536206
I think that is partially the design and style of the creature lending it as well. The lipstick does look weird, but the whole design looks weird so it's "fine" and works.
>>746536338
bratty also looks kind of trashy intentionally so it doesn't really conflict with that

>>746535263
I was about to say TS!Underswap, but seeing the struggles of the lead dev it might never come out, and even if it did, the fact that its an swap AU and not a game with a fully original cast makes me doubt if it will ever have the same popularity as UTY. Outertale is a full lenght fangame but no one cares for the game because its based on a swap AU.

>>746536226
>Apparently they are reworking the entire demo based on feedback because people complained about the game being too similar to Deltarune,
Hell, that's got me interested too.

>>746535660
>wildfire but even if/when it releases it probably won’t have AS much impact as yellow purely because it’s protag blatantly doesn’t align with deltarune’s “canon” orange.
I want to believe that won't matter if the game is good, most of the designs for the fangame humans don't align with the flowers, Olive from CWK doesn't look like Green at all, and the girl from UT Promise isn't a fully grown man on a tutu either.

>>746536226
>Apparently they are reworking the entire demo based on feedback because people complained about the game being too similar to Deltarune, that only makes me more interested in trying to current build
alright then maybe I'll keep an eye out on it at least. would be interesting to see if they try and make it more "their own" if they want to make it a standalone game.
>Sometimes I wonder what was the thought process of making the first area look like a pallet swap of the scarlet forest.
maybe they got into the mindset that making a fangame was the wrong approach when internally what they wanted at the time was essentially fangame. Or maybe they were thinking about how like that one yume nikki fangame, I think .flow? whatever it's called it's a fangame but it's wholly original too.
>It most likely will be another game, even if Naranja and Wildfire manage to come out I don't see either game being developed before some of the other fangames, they can be "The third Yellow" but something like CWK might become the second one.
that's fair though I still want Naranja to get big appeal. so fine, third yellow! But yeah CwK I remember when the demo was first being talked about when it was at an exclusive event location, and Im impressed that they really went through and made it, even if I feel certain ways about the style of that teams tastes.

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>>746536338
Are you calling my wife ugly?

>>746536673
Yes, her personality is cute but she only looks pretty in fanarts.

On the subject of that "Space opera scrimblo RPG" idea from the other day, I think it would be a perfect choice for it to go for a similar humor style to The Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy. Would only be natural with the subject matter. My next pick would be Spaceballs, but I don't think you could pull off much serious theming with that.

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>>746536775
Fuck you, she's cute 24/7. Even when she gets hit by a car she still looks sexy.

>>746536858
anon, she looks like foxy with lipstick and eyelashes, all of Fazbear's creations are ugly

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>>746535380
It seems that Wildfire has finally posted after 8 months, and they're looking for new programmers
https://x.com/UndertaleWldfre/status/2093820631255241066
Is there anyone from this website who's thought about signing up?

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>>746536957
>she looks like foxy with lipstick and eyelashes
Like I said, cute. Besides, Foxy doesn't have hair, or hips, or a tail, or tits, or eyelashes. And he's got a stronger jaw (much stronger in some games)

>>746535263
im half convinced that like 90% of these and most AUs/prequel games are created purely to try and get people to draw fanart of their ocs before pulling the rug

>>746536796
>On the subject of that "Space opera scrimblo RPG" idea from the other day,
I still don't know how this would play out, are you always on a space ship and only get to interact with npcs through menus? Or is there an overworld like in Undertale?
>I think it would be a perfect choice for it to go for a similar humor style to The Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy. Would only be natural with the subject matter. My next pick would be Spaceballs, but I don't think you could pull off much serious theming with that.
Never watched the movie, but I did see that clip of "I Am Your Father's Brother's Nephew's Cousin's Former Roommate" scene, I think it might be too much like a parody for UT/DR

>>746537038
all of the programmers in these threads are working on their own stuff.

>>746537038
I can hardly program my own game, let alone someone else's

>>746537038
>spoiler
Anon, I'm pretty sure all the programers here are already working on original projects, if we had spare coders they most likely would rather help the other dev anons.

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>>746536957
Also, are you seriously going to tell me this isn't cute?

>>746537136
The other 10% are also created with the intention of getting free fanart for their OCs, but they actually want to finish the project, I have no doubt UTY was like this to some extent.

>>746537150
>I think it might be too much like a parody for UT/DR
If you just wanted to make a comedy game, which delivers its message purely through jokes, it could work. But if you wanted something more heartfelt like UT, you would need to do something else.

>t, are you always on a space ship and only get to interact with npcs through menus? Or is there an overworld like in Undertale?
It could be either, or maybe both. Maybe there's a classic JRPG style map screen where you control your ship in space, then you can land on planets to do away missions which have a party of crew members. Or maybe its majority space, and that's where all the combat is, with most interactions being through a video call, only occasionally leaving your ship for interactions. Or maybe it could do something like Fuga and let you walk around your ship and interact with characters between battles.

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>>746537121
>Besides, Foxy doesn't have hair, or hips, or a tail, or tits, or eyelashes.
Funtime Foxy has a few of those.
>>746537254
Foxy is ugly too, sorry anon,

>>746537136
>im half convinced that like 90% of these and most AUs/prequel games are created purely to try and get people to draw fanart of their ocs before pulling the rug
That sounds like another posibility of what Futility was actually about

Ok, now this has got me thinking about a FNAF x DR crossover fangame. You could have someone create a dark world in the pizza place, then all the possessed animatronics become darkners with split personalities like Pink. Or maybe instead of being like Pink and being such a distinct split, they're more like a new person made up of equal parts elements of the character and elements of the dead person possessing it, and you have to reach out and connect with them in the dark world to befriend them so they won't kill you when you return to the light world.

Maybe it even alternates gameplay styles between a FNAF fangame and a UT fangame.

This could probably work with an original setting if you really wanted it to though. Sure the inspirations would be clear, but I'm sure you could find a natural enough substitute for dark worlds, like entering some kind of shared dream state during the day, or maybe some sort of magic arcade machine. But a crossover might be more fun anyways.

>>746536858
she's cute in a way, but she also look clearly intentionally jarring. After all, whats his name that started that series had a real penchant for making unique mechanical beings, and little skill for making things that looked like actual humans. I don't know if he was involved in that game since I know he's less involved than things in some way or another now?
but it definitely contributes to a jarring appearance that isn't going to be liked by all.
which I guess means more roxy for you huh.
>>746537254
I think that he probably appeals to a very specific demographic, to say the least.

>>746537436
>But if you wanted something more heartfelt like UT, you would need to do something else.
Yeah, undertale is only half comedy, there would be a pretty heavy tonal whiplash if you go from the kind of jokes you see in those parodies to the emotional moments that are usually found at the end of each chapter/area in UT/DR.
>It could be either, or maybe both.
I never played Fuga, but what you describe reminds me of Kotor and Mass Effect since you get to interact with your party members in your ship between missions. I think if you want it to feel like a true RPG most of the game should take place in space with your ship, since the ship is your "player character" the thing that level ups and gets to have builds, or I assume you can modify your ship for different builds, maybe there's a basic overworld with npcs and flavor text that you can access from time to time, but there's no combat in it, at most you get some minigames or puzzles.
hmm, maybe you could do something with this distinction between the human player character and the ship player character, not something like Deltarune mind you, but it got me thinking how in fiction space ships are usually controlled by more than one people but in games you control them as if they were commanded by a single entity.

>>746537525
>Funtime Foxy has a few of those.
That's a different character. Foxy is a pirate possessed by a small child. Funtime Foxy is a child killing android with an effeminate body, boisterous male voice, and a diva personality (basically furry Mettaton)

>Foxy is ugly too, sorry anon,
If you can watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrj0F4Y3Gq8 and call him ugly, then you have no soul

>>746537798
>I don't know if he was involved in that game since I know he's less involved than things in some way or another now?
Security Breach was the first new game (not counting the VR remake, since it just recycled the first 4 games' designs) not made by Scott. That's why the designs don't look like soulless man eating monsters and instead look like some SFM artists' sona.

>, but she also look clearly intentionally jarring.
I don't see it. The characters in 1-3 look creepy in an uncanny valley sort of way. The ones in 4-6 look like slasher villains. The ones in SL look like fursona's. They fall squarely on the cartoon character side of the uncanney valley because they're too expressive, which is part of why the game wasn't scary (the main part was it being sanitized for kids)

>I think that he probably appeals to a very specific demographic, to say the least
He's the most popular character in the series, by a landslide. Just take a e6 and FA.

>>746537765
>You could have someone create a dark world in the pizza place
Close enough, welcome back Geltarune.

>You could have someone create a dark world in the pizza place, then all the possessed animatronics become darkners with split personalities like Pink.
I think they would work in a different way from pink? Pink is possed by a ghost monster, these are animatronics that are possed by actual human ghosts, they probably work under different rules.

>Maybe it even alternates gameplay styles between a FNAF fangame and a UT fangame.
I think that was already done? I would be surprised if it hasn't FNAF and UT had massive fandoms back in the day, it was impossible to ignore them

>but I'm sure you could find a natural enough substitute for dark worlds, like entering some kind of shared dream state during the day, or maybe some sort of magic arcade machine.
That "Unrelated" fangame (?) from /sus/ had its own concept for legally distinct darkworld, but I never read into it, I wonder if the project is still alive.

>>746538194
>I don't see it. The characters in 1-3 look creepy in an uncanny valley sort of way. The ones in 4-6 look like slasher villains. The ones in SL look like fursona's. They fall squarely on the cartoon character side of the uncanney valley because they're too expressive, which is part of why the game wasn't scary (the main part was it being sanitized for kids)
it's the eyes, and her mouth looking like that old arcade game about smashing the gators heads.
the really old arcade game
>Security Breach was the first new game (not counting the VR remake, since it just recycled the first 4 games' designs) not made by Scott. That's why the designs don't look like soulless man eating monsters and instead look like some SFM artists' sona.
interesting, but I'd still say the eyes are appropriately "wrong". I think you'd have to have at least SOME doll/animatronic fucker in you to be able to work with those eyes.
>He's the most popular character in the series, by a landslide. Just take a e6 and FA.
i'll take your word for it, I assumed it would be that toy chica character I remember seeing around and seeing in those really weird "autism fetish" images

>>746537976
>If you can watch this and call him ugly, then you have no soul
He's still ugly, him looking kind of cute in the right context doesn't change that

speaking of scott and fnaf, I wish more fangames in this fandom found it acceptable to use royalty free music. I know the bar is set high with toborts work, but selecting appropriate music from stuff that already exists can get you really far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sWC0deZZs4
And the desolate hope is a really good example of this.

>>746537910
>I never played Fuga, but what you describe reminds me of Kotor and Mass Effect since you get to interact with your party members in your ship between missions.
Its sorta like that, but with Fuga, that's half the game. The game is nothing but battles and the downtime inside the tank between battles. There's no overworld, and towns are just shop screens with no character to control.

>. I think if you want it to feel like a true RPG most of the game should take place in space with your ship, since the ship is your "player character" the thing that level ups and gets to have builds
You could have it be two RPGs in one. One is a more CRPG style with the ship, while the other with the away teams is more JRPG style. The ship one would focus more on positioning and tactics, while the infantry one is more party management and dealing with items.

But your idea sounds simpler, which may be better

> I assume you can modify your ship for different builds
You could probably swap out ammo types, some of the weapons, maybe who crews what. Maybe you even have to manage replacing parts that break. Could even have a party of supporting ships you can choose, each with their own unique traits.

>, maybe you could do something with this distinction between the human player character and the ship player character
Maybe you mind meld with the ship to control it. Most ships have an AI controlling them (probably with the notable exception of the primitive or luddite factiton that does everything by hand) while yours is controlled directly by (you), which is what makes it so capable.

Maybe it still has an AI, but this AI is just there as an auxiliary for when (you) aren't present. And it could have a personality of its own. I know I'd like to have one that's some ancient imperial archaeotech that's really racist towards aliens and speaks with a posh british accent.

>>746538360
I'm glad I don't see the world through your eyes. You'd probably call your favorite scrimblo ugly if you saw her (or him) irl.

>>746538196
> welcome back Geltarune.
Welcome back? It never went anywhere.

> think they would work in a different way from pink
Fair enough, maybe they're a more even mix. But sometimes they'll black out and do unexplainable things that they can't remember when you trigger some core memory. Of course the music would cut out and their eyes would go black when that happens.

>I think that was already done? I would be surprised if it hasn't FNAF and UT had massive fandoms back in the day, it was impossible to ignore them
I haven't heard of it. Closest I've seen is Popgoes, which has a brief 8 bit RPG section between each night.

>That "Unrelated" fangame (?) from /sus/ had its own concept for legally distinct darkworld
It doesn't have to be 1 for 1 equivalent, just capable of filling the same role. A magic arcade machine, or a psychic shared dream are different things but could be used to tell the same story.

>>746538409
>I know the bar is set high with toborts work, but selecting appropriate music from stuff that already exists can get you really far
The thing is that at this point people expect the soundtrack to be full of leitmotiffs, almost every track in UT/DR has them, that on top of the fandom being full of composers, I think most players would find this to be an odd design choice, or at least the ones that actually try to analyze the OST.

>>746538341
>it's the eyes, and her mouth looking like that old arcade game about smashing the gators heads.
Those things are cute. Anyways, they don't move. The original FNAF robots were always stiff and stilted in their movements, which made them seem unnatural. The Fnaf SL robots move really fluidly and are pretty spry. Makes them feel too much like normal living things.

> I think you'd have to have at least SOME doll/animatronic fucker in you to be able to work with those eyes.
They've got very expressive eyes, that's probably the biggest departure. Previously the eyes were sunken and always stuck either wide eyed and crazy looking or half lidded and dead looking.

>i'll take your word for it,
I would think a UTY fan would understand the power of foxes

> and seeing in those really weird "autism fetish" images
The what?

>>746538409
The problem is that royalty free music just doesn't work when the player is expecting thematic music full of leitmotif

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>>746538821
>You'd probably call your favorite scrimblo ugly if you saw her (or him) irl
Most anthro characters would look weird as fuck if they existed in the real world, maybe the ones not based on animals wouldn't have this problem, or maybe it would be even worse.

>>746539414
If they were as expressive as the ones in the game they'd be fine. The problem with Skinwalkriel there is that he's a statue locked in a flat expression.

>>746539492
>The problem with Skinwalkriel there is that he's a statue locked in a flat expression.
So that's how it would feel to look at Normal NPC in the real world

>>746539610
Also keep in mind that NORMAL_NPC is twice your height but still slouched, and that should and arm are a disguised mouth.

A message from the Reloaded dev
"Hi, this is from the creator of Undertale Yellow Reloaded. I'm sure that some of you have questions regarding my game or the direction of the story that I'm trying to tell, and while I can appreciate the support for the game, unfortunately I cannot answer any major story questions past the end of the demo. As that would risk the chance of giving away the remaining plot, intended to bring major changes to the Undertale Yellow you know."
"All I can say for now is this: As you know, the recent demo follows after the events of New Home during the original pacifist route, and the full release will have to account for that. And of course, in the full release, a certain character will appear..."
"Seriously though, releasing this demo to the public has been an accomplishment for me. I want to keep being able to release updates in a timely manner, and that includes some more content to Martlet's section. On that note, how are you liking the demo so far? Were you interested in the story? Was it fulfilling for the story that Undertale Yellow established? Did you have anything else to say about the writing?"
"Feedback is greatly appreciated, and I'm always interested to hear the constructive takes that others have on my game. I'll continue to try updating the demo, but there may be a point where I'm satisfied with where it's at and move onto the remaining game. Maybe I'll get to posting screenshots of content that's yet to come..."

>>746539220
>>746539301
I know why, and that's why I said the bar is set so high. so I get why it happens I just wish that there was more of the understanding that it shouldn't be a demand that every dev has levied against them because fangames everywhere else are measured more fairly.

>>746540069
I levy that demand against myself. I wouldn't feel right doing it.

>>746539243
>Those things are cute. Anyways, they don't move. The original FNAF robots were always stiff and stilted in their movements, which made them seem unnatural. The Fnaf SL robots move really fluidly and are pretty spry. Makes them feel too much like normal living things.
I think if you weren't already so inclined, you'd see what I'm saying because, I can see WHY it's cute, but I can also see that the eyes are bulging glassy things. they are more expressive than they should be, but I can practically feel the gears clicking behind those eyes, and I am a robo fucker, but there's a different aesthetic.

>Its sorta like that, but with Fuga, that's half the game. The game is nothing but battles and the downtime inside the tank between battles. There's no overworl
That sounds like it would be too different from the UT/DR style, which is fine if that's what you're looking for, I haven't played Fuga so I don't know how these interactions would develop when there's no overworld.

>You could have it be two RPGs in one
I was assuming we are working with a limited budget, that's why I didn't want to bring up more complex gameplay for the "on foot" sections.
If anything I thought the ship would have the more action oriented gameplay, while the party gets the CRPG turn based tactics, I don't think turn based gameplay works well when you have a single character.

>You could probably swap out ammo types, some of the weapons, maybe who crews what.
That's what I was thinking when I said you could have different builds, not sure how you could implement the supporting ships, unless they are like small fighter ships.

>Maybe you mind meld with the ship to control it. Most ships have an AI controlling them
This reminded me of the game FTL: Faster Than Light, technically in that game you control a crew in a space ship, the thing is that your entire crew can die and be replaced and anyone can take the position of pilot, there really isn't a "leader" crewmate in the game, which is why many people theorize that in FTL you actually control the ship's AI and the only reason why you need a pilot at all times is because that's a safety measure in case the AI goes rogue.

>Maybe it still has an AI. I know I'd like to have one that's some ancient imperial archaeotech that's really racist towards aliens and speaks with a posh british accent.
That seems oddly specific, but I like the idea of the ship being its own character, maybe it helps in battles too, the ship AI could be this game's "check" ACT giving you some useful info and flavor text.

>>746540069
As another dev, I think the demand is fair, the fandom has a lot of composers anyway, you could easily find someone to make music for you if you have an actual game to show.
Maybe you could ask them to remix some of that royalty free music if you like it that much.

>>746539972
I'm glad to hear you're still working on it. I will of course address my posts as though I was talking to him directly to make things simpler.

I'm gonna take another run through the demo soon but I wonder if Clover sitting on the floor when martlet talks about reading to him might prompt her to say he could sit somewhere more comfortable, in an awkward way.
Then again maybe kids sitting on the floor as someone reads to them is normal.

>>746539972
A bit of an odd way to comunicate with us, but alright, I have already given my opinions on UTYR, the writing worked well and the ending got me interested in what might happen later, if you want to add more content adding interactions between Martlet and the Honeydew shopkeeper would be nice, kind of like how Martlet reacts when you talk to Bits and Bites, I also think Martlet should comment when you interact with some of the object in her house.

>>746540362
>>746540112
I think it's great if you want to do it, but it's a fangame ultimately, expecting it to have the same production values of something that was paid for is not fair, even if something was made meeting those expectations.

it should be exceeding expectations to meet the bar of a paid product.
I understand that as a dev of this it's what you want, but uty for instance had a whole team of people. I just don't agree with where the bar is set and for instance see something like naranja where it's at as "wow this is amazing" and if it adds music of it's own that will just raise it beyond that in my eyes rather than "well this would be good if it had music of it's own."

it's contrary to the spirit of what makes something a fanwork to judge it in that way I think.

>>746540207
A fuck I forgot to reply to the post >>746538750

>>746539042
>Welcome back? It never went anywhere.
That's a meme.

>Fair enough, maybe they're a more even mix. But sometimes they'll black out and do unexplainable things that they can't remember when you trigger some core memory. Of course the music would cut out and their eyes would go black when that happens.
Seems apropiate, even if the ghost monsters and human ghost had the same rules there's still the small detail of these being the ghosts of children that got murdered, I think that wouldn't leave them in the best of mental states.

>It doesn't have to be 1 for 1 equivalent
I know, I think that Unrelated fangame was doing something more original with it, but I can't bother to check it.

>>746539243
I forgot to respond to like half of this post and didn't realize it, I'm sorry anon.
>They've got very expressive eyes, that's probably the biggest departure. Previously the eyes were sunken and always stuck either wide eyed and crazy looking or half lidded and dead looking.
yeah I can see they definitely don't do the horror aspect as well. I don't mean to say they are a good replacement or serve the horror, just that as far as finding something cute or not, they do have a bit of a "unnatural factor" that can set off peoples nuh uh senses if they aren't so inclined
>I would think a UTY fan would understand the power of foxes
well, true but I saw that toy chica thing FUCKING EVERYWHERE. I'm still a little surprised
>The what?
oh man, they were these things with like toy chica in an autism awareness pattern bikini talking about how you should goon to her because it's the best thing for an autistic person to do.
it's the strangest fetish I've ever seen and I don't know if it has an actual name, but it's been done with a lot of characters, I just saw her with it a ton.

>>746540673
I think the UT fandom is willing to give a lot of stuff a pass when it comes to quality, the music is the only exception since its so important to the original games

>I understand that as a dev of this it's what you want, but uty for instance had a whole team of people.
Not having an original OST isn't a crime, but again, with how important music is to UT/DR with all the leitmotiffs and connections you can find in the OST it does feel like the fangame is incomplete when it lacks in that aspect, it would be the equivalent of the sprites looking like placeholder assets instead of being proper drawings.

>it's contrary to the spirit of what makes something a fanwork to judge it in that way I think.
Thats a valid point, I just think its not that big of a deal in this case because of how easy is to find composers in the UT/DR fandom, not having an original Soundtrack is more of a choice from the devs rather than a limitation that they have to work with, even in these threads we have more than one composer.

>>746541031
>That's a meme.
Yeah, and its improperly applied. I didn't fight in two meme wars to see you idiots butcher the fine art of shitposting.

>Seems apropiate, even if the ghost monsters and human ghost had the same rules there's still the small detail of these being the ghosts of children that got murdered,
In retrospect, they'd probably be more like Gerson than Pink. But, you know, spookier.

>I think that Unrelated fangame was doing something more original with it, but I can't bother to check it.
From what I read, it was just darkworlds with the name changed.

>>746542263
What's this? Dark World designs for Starlo and Roba?
>Tail on Starlo
I wonder who was the first one to give Starlo a tail, and why a lizard tail of all things

>>746542830
>What's this? Dark World designs for Starlo and Roba?
to be honest I'm not sure, I don't remember if there was text posted with the art, but it stood out to me so I saved it
>and why a lizard tail of all things
I think because his star.. prongs? his star prong things kind of look like lizard frills if you squint, and he's in a desert area

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>>746540148
I'm not really a robofucker, but I'm not averse to it either. I think Star Wars and FNAF are why I like robots so much. Oh and probably Terminator. They just seem cool to me because of how much I was exposed to them at an early age. Though if I could be classed as a robofucker, it would almost certainly be because of FNAF.

I think it might be more of the monsterfucker side of my brain, since while you would call those eyes bulging and glassy, I think they're cute and pretty. And that's a very similar disagreement to the one I had over Mal0's eyes, which I think look goofy. Really, a lot of creepy monsters just look friend shaped to me. Like Withered Foxy, he looks like he'd be a bro, even if I know I'm supposed to see him as some tragic monster. That monster = friend thing is probably why I'm here in the first place.

>>746542492
>I think the UT fandom is willing to give a lot of stuff a pass when it comes to quality, the music is the only exception since its so important to the original games
yeah and I do get it, it IS important, but I just feel like the way I see people go about it lacks "grace". lacks giving any consideration for a fan project in motion. I know not everyone likes DRY as much as me but it's like how I see some of those people tear into it and then bring stuff like that up and, sometimes it feels like "ok come on though give him some grace, he's even got a guy giving him some songs and there was that one post about the person wanting to make songs with lietmotifs.
I feel like people should be able to go "alright I'd rather this have an OST but I'll now review the other things and give them credit where credit is due."

I'll admit this may be a partially personal thing for me but I get a little upset at people not being willing to acknowledge what something imperfect may have done right. It's vaguely anti art? On top of that theres the people who are weirdly hostile to dry for no reason in the first place.
(this is not of course, any disrespect to the people who had problems or criticisms with dry here, hope it doesn't come across as that).

And yeah I think there's importance in letting a fangame have SOME grace because it's a fangame.
>Thats a valid point, I just think its not that big of a deal in this case because of how easy is to find composers in the UT/DR fandom, not having an original Soundtrack is more of a choice from the devs rather than a limitation that they have to work with, even in these threads we have more than one composer.
that's true, but well, I still think some grace is important to give.

>>746543016
>I think because his star.. prongs? his star prong things kind of look like lizard frills if you squint, and he's in a desert area
I always saw him as an star fruit monster, even if that doesn't make much sense with his Dad being a sun and his mom a Moon.

>>746543165
>Really, a lot of creepy monsters just look friend shaped to me.
Anon is the real definition of
>Aww... he's smiling :)

>>746540207
>That sounds like it would be too different from the UT/DR style, which is fine if that's what you're looking fo
I didn't mean it would copy Fuga fully. Just that it could have a suitably developed shipboard downtime segment like Fuga's, where you socialize with your crew while working on and upgrading the ship.

> I haven't played Fuga so I don't know how these interactions would develop when there's no overworld.
Its divided between talking to characters in scripted scenes with multiple choice dialogue options, and doing chores with them to upkeep the tank. Occasionally, you can unlock a little movie of them interacting, which also boosts their stats when you put those two characters together on the same gun.

>I was assuming we are working with a limited budget
I'm just toying around with ideas.

>If anything I thought the ship would have the more action oriented gameplay
If you wanted it to be a small fighter, then you could go with a pure scrolling shooter, but I had sort of moved past that idea because my brain naturally thinks "big brawling battleship" when I think space ships.

>I don't think turn based gameplay works well when you have a single character.
I liked it in falllout. Besides a ship is more like a bunch of characters sharing a single tile space. It'd have multiple different weapons and systems all operating simultaneously. And you could always add a couple frigates to your squadron.

>not sure how you could implement the supporting ships, unless they are like small fighter ships.
You have them follow your ship in line, and you can give the individual ships orders, but don't have fine control of them like you do your ship. So you could tell them to move to flank or to pursue the the smaller enemy ships, or to stay with you and defend against small craft.

>FTL
well I think it would be game over if your player character died

>>746543448
yeah I can see that, I'm just assuming that's what caused it, especially with his top prong obscured it kind of gives the impression of those cheek frills.
>Dad being a sun and his mom a Moon.
uh, sun fruit and moon fruit. it's just obscure, probably real I swear.

>>746543759
>uh, sun fruit and moon fruit. it's just obscure, probably real I swear.
His dad is actually a sunflower, Starlo and Orion were born as stars because it keeps the theme of their parents being celestial objects, him being an starfruit is a result of trying to keep the theme of his dad being a plant monster too while not changing his shape from a star.

>>746543165
>I'm not really a robofucker, but I'm not averse to it either. I think Star Wars and FNAF are why I like robots so much. Oh and probably Terminator. They just seem cool to me because of how much I was exposed to them at an early age. Though if I could be classed as a robofucker, it would almost certainly be because of FNAF.
understandable. it was the mega man series that started my interest with robots, and while I don't want to fuck mega man, liking robots in general is a short skip and a hop away from "robot lady creature thing... pretty."
>I think it might be more of the monsterfucker side of my brain, since while you would call those eyes bulging and glassy, I think they're cute and pretty.
and I can definitely see why they would be pretty like you said. they don't actually put me off and bother me but when I'm looking at it, I'm trying to "see it as someone not into or fond of this might see it". look for things that might catch someone elses mind.
I think the thing with malo is that the skull and the white eyes invoke a sense of rot and death, so it's easy to have a sense of dread invoked.
For me it's really a contest of personality though, so my mind starts being able to see any creatures plus and attractive points should I find myself liking the personality. I can kind of swim through the features and think about what's good or bad about them, and what makes me like them from that point.
>Like Withered Foxy, he looks like he'd be a bro, even if I know I'm supposed to see him as some tragic monster.
I suppose it depends. I've definitely tried befriending just as many things as I've killed in tabletop sessions because "something in me tells me this being can be befriended" and sometimes it's led me well, other times it got me indebted to truly evil beings and so on.
>That monster = friend thing is probably why I'm here in the first place.
Understandable

>>746540207
>That seems oddly specific,
Its just an off the cuff idea. If its not your ship, then maybe its a party member that's an ancient AI controlled ship built by some fallen empire. I just like the aesthetics of imperialism and the unapologetic "I'm better than you, that's why I'm in charge" attitude it had. I also like the old sci fi aesthetics that were born from the old British imperialist culture. I like the archaic stylings of it and think its a breath of fresh air compared to most sci fi made after the 20th century.

>the ship AI could be this game's "check" ACT giving you some useful info and flavor text.
continuing with this support ship idea. Maybe you can rely on the support ship for targetting instead of your own, because its got really good targetting systems. But the shipboard AI throws in comments about the other ships while delivering its scanning informations "The tin pots these savages call ships seem to lack shields" or "An alien vessel, I wouldn't get too close"

>>746540673
Its not an issue of fair or unfair. Stock music simply doesn't work in UT. If you can't find music for your game, then you build the game around whatever music you can find.

>>746541585
>well, true but I saw that toy chica thing FUCKING EVERYWHERE. I'm still a little surprised
Well she is probably the second most popular (or was before Roxy was made) but she only appears in one game, while Foxy appears in every game except Pizzaria Sim.

>they were these things with like toy chica in an autism awareness pattern bikini talking about how you should goon to her because it's the best thing for an autistic person to do.
Imagine if Martlet saw that image, and somehow thought took from it that wearing an autism awareness bikini would be a supportive thing for her autistic human boyfriend.

>>746544285
>Its not an issue of fair or unfair. Stock music simply doesn't work in UT.
isn't using existing ut and uty tracks kind of the same as using stock music but lets you have more selection though?
I mean yes I do understand you lose the lietmotifs, but you can still perform good sound selection.
I also think that while lietmotifs are a strong tool, they aren't as mandatory. a lot of lietmotifs that you can only notice by going and personally examining the note patterns, I think that's more of just a "fun fact".

>>746544451
>while Foxy appears in every game except Pizzaria Sim.
ah I didn't know that. I wonder some time if I should play the games.
>Imagine if Martlet saw that image, and somehow thought took from it that wearing an autism awareness bikini would be a supportive thing for her autistic human boyfriend.
oh god if she walked out of the changing room like that I'd fucking die screaming, but not before looking around to see if there are any looks of recognition that make me need to die more painfully screamfully.

>>746543427
>yeah and I do get it, it IS important, but I just feel like the way I see people go about it lacks "grace".
A lot of people have offered to help with DRY's development, but DRY1anon has chosen to work mostly alone, a decision that I support, but at the end of the day that was his choice, the game could have more music if he chose differently.
>I feel like people should be able to go "alright I'd rather this have an OST but I'll now review the other things and give them credit where credit is due."
That's usually how most reviews I've seen on DRY go, there are a few kids here and there that do find it unacceptable, but the general consensus is that the fangame is good but they wish it had an original OST.
>I'll admit this may be a partially personal thing for me but I get a little upset at people not being willing to acknowledge what something imperfect may have done right. It's vaguely anti art? On top of that theres the people who are weirdly hostile to dry for no reason in the first place.
I get it, "credit where credit is due" the game lacking in one aspect doesn't have to ruin the entire experience, especially when it comes to fangames, a lot of effort and thought still went to everything else.
>And yeah I think there's importance in letting a fangame have SOME grace because it's a fangame.
They do give them some "grace" in the sense that they can forgive the sprites not being of the highest quality, its just the music that gets this special treatment, again because we are talking about Undertale, the game that is famous for having such a huge OST full of interconnected music.

>>746543569
Unironically yes. I feel like Agent J in the recruitment scene in Men In Black, except completely unironic. Like Braynz (the name of the girl in that pic) just looks like she's got this dorky smile there.

>>746543016
I still think of him as a starfish

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>>746544004
>"robot lady creature thing... pretty."
I think its also being into furries that can cause it. Since if the robots looks vaguely humanoid, female, and animalistic, then it sets off the arousal portion of my brain. The worst case of this was me seeing a mech in an anime and thinking it was hot.

>other times it got me indebted to truly evil beings and so on.
Well that's when you do an evil playthrough, so you can see someone summon a goat headed demon to kill you, then give him a hive five and secret handshake, and murder the guy who summoned him so you two can go paint the town red while laughing and joking.

>>746544607
>A lot of people have offered to help with DRY's development, but DRY1anon has chosen to work mostly alone, a decision that I support, but at the end of the day that was his choice, the game could have more music if he chose differently.
I feel like the solo dev status is also something people should take into consideration, even if it's self imposed but well, maybe that's not an objective mindset.
>That's usually how most reviews I've seen on DRY go, there are a few kids here and there that do find it unacceptable, but the general consensus is that the fangame is good but they wish it had an original OST.
maybe I've just seen some vocal people and I'm letting it take up a lot of my brain space. I spent some time browsing the rest of the fandom when the new patch released and got exposed to a good amount of just, what feels like spiteful resentment of other projects?
but maybe I let the vocalness of such people blind me to more grounded people. I just really think that a certain amount of grace is important when someone is making art for free. not to say it's good when you don't think so, I don't think that's what grace entails.
>I get it, "credit where credit is due" the game lacking in one aspect doesn't have to ruin the entire experience, especially when it comes to fangames, a lot of effort and thought still went to everything else.
yeah that's what I'm thinking here.
>They do give them some "grace" in the sense that they can forgive the sprites not being of the highest quality, its just the music that gets this special treatment, again because we are talking about Undertale, the game that is famous for having such a huge OST full of interconnected music.
well, some of them maybe give grace, but I see others that give anything but, and maybe I'm just letting the virulent minority taint my perspective.

>>746544565
>I wonder some time if I should play the games.
They're pretty good for what they are. Only a couple hours long each (shorter once you've gotten good at them). Just don't expect them to be revolutionary works of art. The last two are free, but those won't make sense if you haven't played the first five.

>oh god if she walked out of the changing room like that I'd fucking die screaming
You'd do that to her? Imagine how much it'd hurt her.

>>746544493
You may not consciously notice the leitmotifs, but their presence is felt.

Recycling music is something you can do, but you have to be very careful doing it. I like DRY, but I think it suffers a lot because of its recycled music. A lot of the time my mind is drawn elsewhere by it and away from the subject at hand.

>>746544997
>I think its also being into furries that can cause it
I think part of why I don't call myself a furry is because, honestly the configuration of the being is secondary for me aside from well, not liking certain specific things.the being needs to be female for me but beyond that it's about the mind the behavior the subtle traits. After all, pastra
>The worst case of this was me seeing a mech in an anime and thinking it was hot.
well, that thing is sleek and sexy in the descriptive sense before we even get into personal tastes.
>Well that's when you do an evil playthrough, so you can see someone summon a goat headed demon to kill you, then give him a hive five and secret handshake, and murder the guy who summoned him so you two can go paint the town red while laughing and joking.
well, I generally play my characters down to what I think they would do (aside from avoiding making a character that is antagonistic in an unfun way to the party because I'm trying to respect their time) so if my character sees what this being is doing and isn't ok with it, I'm not gonna let myself stop him from acting just because it would be more convenient.

But It depends on the character and the situation you know? I've definitely had characters who would indeed be ok with that.

>>746543673
>Its divided between talking to characters in scripted scenes with multiple choice dialogue options, and doing chores with them to upkeep the tank. Occasionally, you can unlock a little movie of them interacting, which also boosts their stats when you put those two characters together on the same gun.
Sounds good, but part of the appeal of space operas is meeting intelligent alien lifeforms, I would prefer the game to have an Undertale style overworld.

>my brain naturally thinks "big brawling battleship" when I think space ships.
The idea of a having a huge battleship for yourself sounds really cool, but my first thought was something like the Ebon Hawk from Kotor or the Normandy from Mass Effect, both ships capable of FTL travel and requiring an entire crew to work, but still small enough to perform evasive maneuvers.

>I liked it in falllout.
Fallout is exactly the game I was thinking when I said that, Lisa the Joyful was also pretty bad about it, it feels like one character removes too many layers from the tactics involved in turn based games.
>Besides a ship is more like a bunch of characters sharing a single tile space
I get your idea, this is starting to sound more like FTL, and while I like that game's combat system and I believe its the best "real time with pause game" out there, I don't know if its the best fit for a RPG.

>>746545258
>You may not consciously notice the leitmotifs, but their presence is felt.
maybe, I'll give you credit that you may be right, but I'm not 100 percent convinced. maybe in some cases but some of those lietmotifs are really hidden in there.
> I like DRY, but I think it suffers a lot because of its recycled music. A lot of the time my mind is drawn elsewhere by it and away from the subject at hand.
for me it feels like it's invoking the emotion I had when that music first played, while attaching it to a new context. maybe this is just a thing with how I think, but I feel like if the song is paired with an appropriate context, then it will evoke an appropriate emotion.

>>746544159
>Its just an off the cuff idea. If its not your ship, then maybe its a party member that's an ancient AI controlled ship built by some fallen empire. I just like the aesthetics of imperialism and the unapologetic "I'm better than you, that's why I'm in charge" attitude it had. I also like the old sci fi aesthetics that were born from the old British imperialist culture. I like the archaic stylings of it and think its a breath of fresh air compared to most sci fi made after the 20th century.
If the game has a tone similar to Undertale then I can see all the ships having unique aesthetics, you could probably throw some Warhammer 40k inspired ships there, the ones that look like cathedrals and such, I also like the idea of a party member that's just an entire ship, you rarely see non humanoid robots as party members.

>the shipboard AI throws in comments about the other ships while delivering its scanning information
Some JRPG have skills like those, like in Paper Mario, sounds cool.

>>746545175
>They're pretty good for what they are. Only a couple hours long each (shorter once you've gotten good at them). Just don't expect them to be revolutionary works of art. The last two are free, but those won't make sense if you haven't played the first five.
I'll at least give the first one a shot and see where that takes me.
>You'd do that to her? Imagine how much it'd hurt her.
fuck, I'll have to pull an undyne and force my corporeal form to stick together. but still I'm going to tell her to take it o-
well this is going to lead places.

>>746544493
>also think that while lietmotifs are a strong tool, they aren't as mandatory. a lot of lietmotifs that you can only notice by going and personally examining the note patterns, I think that's more of just a "fun fact".
Leitmotifs are a tool, you might not notice them in most tracks, but when they are front and center you will notice them and that can greatly change the tone of the scene, we all noticed the Hopes and Dreams leitmotif when it played during the final part of A Mother's Love

>>746545782
>we all noticed the Hopes and Dreams leitmotif when it played during the final part of A Mother's Love
that's true, and I'll agree that it adds to the scene a ton, a shit ton even like it can't really be understated. But there's a sense that I feel sometimes like, people feel like they act as though the other things that are done really well don't actually matter or fail if there isn't a lietmotif.
I think again this is a result of me maybe exposing myself to some of the worst vocal elements because I think a lot of people here could instead vouch that, if you were to mute the volume for instance, there are still a ton of things that UTY did right that can be picked out (aside from the things it did of course, do wrong).

An ost does add a ton to an experience, but like those soundcloud AUs, it's not the end all be all by itself right?

>>746544451
>somehow thought took from it that wearing an autism awareness bikini would be a supportive thing for her autistic human boyfriend.
Maybe anon should wear matching autism awareness underwear to show support to his autistic monster girlfriend