It's going to be cancelled, isn't it? https://typemoon.com/news/2026/9rNwgz
>>746542948>aniplexnah even worse, it's going to be a gacha bro
>>746542948I blame them trying to make it into card game
>>746543102No...
>>746543303it's aniplex, they're going to do what they did to madoka that they'll do to fate and it'll be a million times worse...
where's the money going to? the fate IP generates a ton of revenue
>>746542948>Aniplex
Maybe they'll take the easy way out and do a fucking remaster of the original + CCC instead of a full remake. I think that would be the best outcome.
>>746543518nasu's pockets of course
>>746542948>Have infinite fuck you gacha money>Can't even develop 1 (uno) (one) remakeWhat happened to japanese developers?
>>746542948AMWF propaganda doesn't deserve any better
>>746544523Cygames made it work even if Relink took a while. I think Fate's problem specifically is that TM isn't a gamedev studio first so they need outside help.
>>746542948I’m guessing rather than a remake this is going to be quickly released as a basic remaster of the PSP game. Basically the PSP game with HD textures, and a higher quality version of the voice acting and music.
They fired the producer/director who founded the studio. They made an entire studio 7 years ago to remake of a psp game and somehow they couldn't do it.
>>746542948>Niino is outhttps://x.com/Nino_Kazuya/status/2094247838175871485
>>746544523Typemoon even had trouble porting over VN's to be fairThey're retarded
>>746545007>They made an entire studio 7 years ago to remake of a psp gameWhy the fuck did they do that? Why didn't they just use the guys who made Extella?
>>746545116>muh honoru... seppuku..
>>746542948Wouldn't they announce cancellation now instead of changing publishers in this way?>>746544602This.>FUC was made by Eighting>Extra and CCC were made by imageepoch>Extella and Link were made by Marvelous>Samurai Remnant was made by OmegaForce
Wasn't the game supposed to release a year ago?
>>746542948The absolute fucking state, regions and cities of post FGO Fate
>>746545269Was supposed to be released last year, then got delayed to June of this year, and now has been delayed indefinitely.>>746545007It was a completely new game if we're going by the completely updated visuals, gameplay, and the scope of the voice acting they wanted. They were going to turn those cube-hallways into fully fledged dungeons and turn this concept art real.I mean they DID have like two trailers with the gameplay and combat, one just has to imagine if they were fucking lying with their monthly progress reports to have it backfire so immensely like this.
>Fate/Extra Record delayed and put on a permanent hiatus>Fate/Prototype by Nasu will never be finished.>Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver by Sakurai is shit AND it will never be finished>Fate/Requiem on a permanent hiatus, which means it will never be finished>Fate/type Redline on a permanent hiatus, which means it will never be finished>Fate:Lost Einherjar on a permanent hiatus, which means it will never be finished>Two Fate/Grand Order Manga adapting part 1, both fucking suck>Fate Route anime sucks>Unlimited Blade Works movie sucks>Unlimited Blade Works anime is good, but it fails to adapt the themes and the internal thoughts of Shirou that made the route so great>The Heaven's Feel Trilogy flat out sucks because it cuts out so much and changes so many scenes>The Camelot movies suck>The Babylon movies suck>The Tsukihime anime is an abomination>The remake of the Far Side of the Moon routes are NEVER EVER coming out>Witch on the Holy Night Part 2 and 3 NEVER EVER>The Fate Extra anime is an absolute abominationWhy the FUCK is this franchise so cursed? How can a BILLION dollar franchise be so mismanaged?
>>746545486Waver's show was kinda fun.
At least the Fate Extra manga publications actually concluded, took like 10 years but hey.Foxtail is shaping towards ending too after like 2 years of being stuck with Suzuka's master's memories.I vaguely recall redrop was announced getting to do an Ooku manga or something around those lines. At least that guy can fucking put out art super fast if him drawing Kama every year is any indication.
>>746542948wait why??i thought it was ready to go after they've taken care of voice acting.it's a basic dungeon crawler with literal rps combat. how do you fuck up this badly?>>746545250i remain astounded at whatever is happening in japanland.will type moon ever get anything done? when will they actually use the fgo money for anything else than half of a remake of a vn?
>>746545486completely deserved because nasu and takeuchi are both hack frauds
>>746545709>it's a basic dungeon crawler with literal rps combat.The RPS system got replaced with a card/deck builder, how are you this out of the loop?
>>746542948No way, this would be the best opportunity to cancel it if they ever intend to.
>>746545709>when will they actually use the fgo money for anything else than half of a remake of a vn?Evidently Japan is losing their VN programmers now too according to Nasu. The people who are skilled enough to do the types of VNs he's doing with all of its overlays, effects, camera shifts, and keeping it consistent just aren't entering the business.
>>746545617Yes
>>746545250You know its gonna be a clusterfuck when former director wants nothing to do with itIn other news cygames won babyyyyyyy
>>746545940Wouldn't he be to blame for it instead?
>>746546037no japanese niggas don't throw out shade like that out of respect
Been playing CCC after I found out it gotma translation. Pretty fun. Think this will be the last TM thing I read/play though. FGO really soured everything. t. anon who was there when fate/stay night was finally tled
>>746545829i know my guy.what i'm saying is that they've set out to make a remake of a psp rpg game with rps combat.everything was already set in place for them to do well. they had money. time. an already written story. they tried making the battles less plain, which is admirable, but it doesn't seem too big of a challenge. it was what made me excited for it.and we've still somehow come to this.there must be a really interesting story there.
This is what NASU gets for being a retard about the steam platformVNs are best played on TVs my fucking ass
>>746542948WtfI thought it was coming out this year. The trailer actually seemed advance enough. Why the fuck can't they release it.
>>746545486at least we can play Melty Blood in the bathroom
Typeslop was never good
>>746546081Which is why he excused himself.
>>746546193>there must be a really interesting story there.Yeah, this is a pretty big fuck-up on a development standpoint from a billion dollar company like TM. I'd love to hear an actual report of what the hell actually went wrong despite things looking just okay on the surface with those infrequent dev reports.
>>746546293>VNs are best played on TVsDid he actually say that?
Red Garden cancellation any second now. They’ll just use Twi-Lumina to expand on some concepts that were planned for it.
>>746546304lmao enjoy Drive Impact in the newest one.
I bought and read this Fate manga that I couldn't find uploaded anywhere.
Why are Kinoko Nasu and Arco Wada so fucking based?>the female MC is bisexual as fuck>the male MC is straight as an arrow>they are supposed to be the same personThey both find heterosexuality and female homosexuality hot, and male homosexuality repulsive.
>>746546576Man, fuck you.
>>746546608Why?
>>746542948>Billions from your gacha game>can't figure out how to remake a PSP game. Why are REAL Fate games so hard for them?
>>746546630I can't say.
>>746546429YesIt was an interview he did on why he didn't want to release his VNs on Steam and why just consoles (before the steam releases)
>>746546676>too poor to afford a large TV>can't play VNs
>>746546676Still no Tsukihime on Steam... Neither the original nor the remake.
>>746546676They used to have vn dvds back in the day
>>746546665
So what does Type Moon do with all that FGO money?
>>74654688050% to Sony35% to Aniplex10% to Nasu5% to everyone else
>>746546880They burnt it all on the sakura wars gacha. Karmic justice
>>746546880
>>746547040There was a Sakura Wars gacha?
>>746547040Man what a disaster lol
>>746547318It died like six months after its release and really killed the shit out of the revival of the series.
>>746542948How is it this hard to make a remake?
>>746546414>just okay on the surface with those infrequent dev reportsand they always made a relatively big deal of showing them off too iirci think i'm more excited for potential info about whatever the fuck happened during development than i was for the game itself lol>>746546676man, i remember this. the way they decided to release tsuki re still fucks me up to this day. no pc release, no english. how do you even make these calls.
>>746547406Japan is just highly incompetent these days, more than 2 decades ago
What the fuck does Type-Moon do with all their gacha money? At least with Cygames and now Shift Up you can clearly see it be funneled into different projects.
>>746547850>What the fuck does Type-Moon do with all their gacha money?same thing that Gaben does with all his steam money, buy stupid shit. When people get rich enough they stop giving a fuck
>>746547850Probably have cheap 5000 yen dinner parties at the yakiniku stall next door.Or bankroll a fighting game from French Bread for even cheaper.
>>746547850Cygames makes really good anime.If only Type-Moon did literally a single worthwhile thing.
I'm assuming no adult was present to slap Nasu and say NO to his 50 new ideas every month that would just add months and months of dev time
>>746544602Cygames poached a bunch of employees from platinum games, dev time for relink was 8 years
>>746548098the entire dev team was nothing but his personal friends lol
qrd as non fatefag
>>746548316Fate/Extra Record restarted development like 420 times, and this is the most recent of them.
>>746548316You know Sonic? Imagine if after 06, Sonic only released really mediocre spin-offs and its main money maker was an absolutely abhorrent live service game. Thats Type-Moon.
>According to Famitsu Development is now being handled by Meteorise of Bleach Rebirth of Souls fame.
>>746542948It's not restart of development, the change in development is that director left the company.
>>746544602Studio BB was made of former Squeenix devs. It's sounds more like a feature bloat.
>>746548501is that a good thing
It will release in 2030 as planned by Nasu. He's currently waiting for our AI to be advanced enough to host BB.
>>746548604If it's just them finishing the game, then it doesn't really matter. The game is pretty far in development from trailers we have seen. If the development is reset, then uhh....
>>746548316>Fate/Extra Record was going to be a complete remake of the 2011 PSP game>It revamped the gameplay from RPS to deck builder and turn a very derivative Persona 3 clone a Reload like treatment in terms of upgrading visuals with no prior template like P5 in comparison>To this end, Typemoon created its own in-house videogame studio where in the past they got other developers to make games for them>Development was incredibly slow, tidbits of news only occurred like maybe once a year>We got infrequent reports showing off the game's progress but no real release date>I think it was around 2023 or 2024 when they finally released a trailer beyond the announcement showing off a bunch of new things>More events within the arena, more interaction with NPCs, more of an actual game>Devs also made a post about how they did not intend to change anything with the story and instead just wanted to add more things in the dead days you spent grinding>Preorders go up at around 2024 or 2025, for release on the Switch, Playstation, and Steam with a 2025 release date>Release date then gets pushed back a year to June 2026 after like another year of radio silence>Developer stated it was because of voice acting recording taking a lot longer than anticipated>Prior game progress reports showed off the penultimate dungeon in the backgrounds so many believed they were keeping pace>2026 comes and the game gets delayed indefinitely when its publisher, Bandai Namco, says it won't publish the game anymore>This only happens when the publisher believes the game is not even close to being finished or would make no returns in its current state>News tonight confirms the game has had its director exit the dev team and now Aniplex will be pushing forward with itThat should be everything.>>746548589>squeenixOh fuck, it was doomed from the get-go then>>746548501Last I heard Re-birth of Souls was kind of okay...
>>746548529And they changed the publisher and deleted the game's social media accounts. It sounds like a development restart to me.
>>746548751>It sounds like a development restart to me.Jesus fuck, I wonder if the development made any fucking advances at all. We had screenshots of Arena Floor 7 with Gawain and Leo too.
>>746548751It didn't, the social media account is tied to bamco, they had to delete it.>>746548694>Oh fuck, it was doomed from the get-go thenTbf, it's less a main Squeenix team and more Imageepoch (OG Extra dev) refugees that went to square.
Who else has had no faith in /Extra ever? Never liked this universe or any games related to it.
>Never update FGO and give it an ending so bad you have to immediately course correct>Shit out a mediocre Melty Blood with censored characters>Can't complete a remake of a mediocre game>Tsukihime is still unfinished>Still trying to shill Aoko's boring fucking story>0 competent anime>The only modern thing he has written is LB6 which took like 5 years
>>746542948They should probably redo it from scratch. It's pathetic when the character models in most chink f2p gacha games look better than this actual game that's backed with FGO money.
>>746548915I much preferred the classic>1 master 1 servantrule that Extra and CCC enforced instead of the Musou stuff with servant teams.Probably why I enjoyed Sam/Rem, I just want the old formula back.
>>746548915It's the best Fate series because of this aspect: >>746546576.Arco Wada is one of the most redpilled artists today.Fate without her as the main artist is not as based nor as redpilled.
>>746543518>>746544357Exfgo fag here70% goes to sony pockets10% to nasuRest is up for grabs between dev teams and other tm staff.
>>746548939>give it an ending so bad you have to immediately course correctWhat did they change? I immediately stopped paying attention to the game after the ending.
>>746544050Its taking them 10 years just to make the original extra and you want them to also make CCC?
I got Extra fatigue after playing through the garbage that was Extella. Extra Record better not be Extella.
>>746544523Typemoon is extremely retarded and inefficient even by Japanese dev standards. They can't even put out Visual Novels, their actual main product, consistently. How's that Tsukihime remake part 2 looking lmao?
>>746549071CCC is an asset flip game. So...
>>746549013you should probably end your own life.
>>746542948It's okay, I'll wait as long as it takes to not play Rock Paper Scissors.
>>746549169Cope, and seethe.
>The game was suppose to come out this year btw
>>746548948character models looked fine last I saw them
>>746549243Calling it now, they will cut the switch version and just release it on ps5 and switch 2.
Type moon shit is always going to be fucked because of Nasu needing to be hands on with everything and he's retarded. Couldn't have the main character of melty blood in the new melty blood because Nasu needed muh canon story. Then at the same time they add half a dozen fgo characters
>>746549043nothing, they rehashed CCC and called it PPP or whatever. Endless filler arc set 1 nanosecond before the "real ending" so they can milk gamling addicts for the rest of time
>>746549376>half a dozen fgo characters4 isn't half a dozen, anon.Hell, 3 if you construe Saber with FSN
>>746549243My wife on the best platform.
>>746548316>qrd as non fatefagRetards struggle to remake turn based Rock Paper Scissors psp game
Here’s the update for who’s on it Studio BB might be dead.
>>746545617Yeah, solid 7/10.
>>746549376This time it sounds more like the director fault, Niino not Nasu. It sounds like he went overboard with feature creep. It went from a simple FE remake with better visual and combat to>having a lot of side quests>EVERYTHING being voice acted even simple NPC conversations>Story being heavily expanded>mini-games in dungeons
>>746549640kek actual failure to launch situation
>>746549640>Director: Out>Studio: Killed>Publisher: Switched to fucking AniplexStuff happened, huh?
>Nino said the Voice recording is done last year >Rin’s VA a couple weeks later says she’s still recording her lines
>>746549640wtf even the studio is getting torpedo'd? This shit is dead unless 99% of the game is complete.
I wish Nasu and Zun would die already. Their works held back a generation of creative progress.
>>746549937Female Hakuno's VA also did the same few months later, it just seems like they kept adding shit.
Fate literally isn't allowed to have a good videogame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p652XatNyjw>6 years agogrim
Fate Extra CCC is Nasu's magnum opus.
>>746550038I had fun with Unlimited Codes
Mordred.
>>746542948
>>746549640>Create a new studio years ago>Release nothing and die
>>746549952They already had a full release date and previously announced that it only needed voice work to be completed. Unless they are literally starting over there is no way it isn't 99% done.
>>746550390At the same time though, there's no way just VA work is what causes the studio to explode.
>>746550390It's more than likely they were fucking lying.
>>746549640Welp that confirms it. Development has absolutely restarted
Just play the original, its perfectly fine.>ROCK PAPER SCISSORS LE BAD!!You were just filtered.
I blame this on Twice H. Pieceman
>>746550602Nothing her says it's restarting development. Also, why would they? If it's unsalvageable, they would just cancel it, the best selling Extra game sold 300k, it's not really worth restarting development.
>>746550702Retard, we have books and books detailing concepts and things that were cut from the story of main extra.Some things got adapted onto lost encore and even other media, all the cool lore was left behind because the original EXTRA is fucking shit.Do you understand that the original EXTRA was supposed to be at the same level than CCC?
https://litter.catbox.moe/w5zeqkgcm7lthav1.jpgthis u?
>>746550813Didn't OG Extra straight up cut the true ending and only kept the normal ending?
>>746549043No but the next arc is literally the goddesses of fate "rewriting destiny" as they were displeased with the outcome which is pretty heavy handed metalanguage lol
>>746550779holy fucking shit we cannot escape these weirdos. They ruined persona 3 threads and they'll ruin fate threads too.
Weren't they flipping development to a Slay the Spire style game? Is THAT being changed now too??
>>746550779AGP yuritroons need to fuck off.
>>746546524based lizchad
>FGO has been going for 11 yearsSurely people are tired of these characters by now
>>746550924Kars is unironically a woman, or transgender.
>>746550895It will now be a musou-style hack n slash PLEASE CLAP
>>746550390The new release date should tell us everything. If it's relatively near, then it was already mostly completed. If not, then it was nowhere close to playable. In case of the former though, I have to wonder why all of this is even necessary. Did they have that much of a difficulty finding new personnel after Bamco pulled out?
>>746550991In a way yes. Doujin numbers are staying afloat but the new fanart counts have definitely come down by a lot compared to peak years.
>>746542948Oya? Oya oya~
Granblue CHADS stay winning
>>746550779>Nero better explains her bisexuality>bisexuality is super heckin' important o algo... except if it's male bisexuality, that one isn't even real anywayBased woke Fate/Extra fans. The most redpilled fanbase.
>>746551029A publisher pulling out means they either have no faith the game will sell enough or it wasn't even close to finish,they literally just publish the game it's like SteamMind you they canned this shit but not Digimon Time Stranger who also was in dev hell for like a decade
>>746551151Bandai owns Digimon IIRC, they definitely do not own as much of Fate. That's the difference.
>>746550870It cut so many things you have no idea.Even CCC who is a way more fleshed out game had cut content that just now we are getting in FGO.>>746550991Hahahaha NO. Actually FGO gameplay is way better than both extra and ccc
>>746547850>theiraniplex's moneysony's money
>>746543518takeuchi's ferraris
>>746542948all those people saying>aniplexdon't know that most TM recent titles are published by Aniplex anyway
>>746547465This is a really hard fall from grace. The japanese made good games back then. I have a hard time believing this, man.
>>746542948>It's going to be cancelled, isn't it?I certainly hope so Extra is where Fate went to shit
>>746550880>>746550924Better stay away from the actual games then, dumbass schizos
>>746551205Which makes it worse, cause Bamco was actually developing it and pouring money on it even when it was stuck, it ended up being their biggest jackpot in decades for DigimonBut that's what's strange it was either vaporware or they were hiding shit cause publishers don't usually fuck off a game cause it's the easiest job
>>746551306CCC you meanExtra was okish
>>746542948their failure to produce anything of substance in the last 10+ years is proof that they just burn all the money FGO makes, there is no other rational explanation for this
>>746551354>Which makes it worseBandai had reasons to give a shit about that game, but not about the Fate game.
>>746550779>male self-insert>female protagonistsThis guy couldn't sound more biased if he tried.>>746550880FeMCfags are always obnoxious somehow, no matter the game.
>>746550924>complaining about yuri>In Fate/ExtraYou never played the game. Also btw, Female Hakuno canonically married both Nero and Tamamo, and FGO straight up confirm it. And no, it's not even subtext, Hakunon just straight up call them her wives.
>>746547040>>746547318that's not Type Moon, but Delightworks, the company they outsourced to do the gameplay part and running FGO, but because of the Sakura war fiasco, was bought by Aniplex and is now called Lasengle. But as a company have nothing to do with Type moon, which is composed of like 10/15 people
>>746551443Arco Wada's basedness truly shines.
>>746550879Can't say I blame her. Salaryman endings are boring and lame.
>>746551443>canonically>FGO
>>746551526In Fate/Extella both Hakuno fuck their love interest, so this isn't the "gotcha" you think it is. Also, FGO is pretty much THE canon as far as Type Moon is concerned.
I'm a fan of the jazz OST myself
>>746551526It IS canon though. OC3 is basically Extella 3, FGO basically continues Hakuno/Hakunons story that way
>>746548501>Bleach Rebirth of Souls is a 2025 fighting game developed by Tamsoft and published by Bandai Namco Entertainmentit's not them
>>746551617It's actually more Extella 4, after OC3, Nasu said he still have plan for Extella 2 and 3 (Links was 1.5), he is just too busy with FGO to make them.
>>746551520
>>746551692>Even more Extella shitWhat a nightmare
>>746551616true it was quite goodhttps://youtu.be/I8zXs4P8SNg?list=RDI8zXs4P8SNg
>>746551692He should hurry the fuck up, then.
>>746551692Motherfucker finish one thing at a time, damn it.
>>746550991I thought so. Then they released Young Old Man and that sucked me right back in
>>746551830That's just Ghost Rider.
>>746551617>OC3 is basically Extella 3Not really. Nasu said that he WANTS to do extella 3 tho. Velber stuffAnyway did you know that they will port Mahoyo to mobile phones later this year?
>>746551575>FGO is pretty much THE canon as far as Type Moon is concernedwasn't the twist at the end of the story that you are the lostbelt you are the fake timeline
>>746551437Anon, they make the distinction because they ABSOLUTELY would never ever ever ever never self-insert, they swear. Kars absolutely self-inserts, one way or the other.
>>746551575Canon really doesn't matter retard.Fate/samurai remnant is a big lostbelt and that entire game would later be deleted from the timeline for obvious reasons
>>746543501nasu owns the right, their attempt to distance themselves with type moon failed miserably with sakura taisen gacha. "we are the real reason why FGO is such a massive success!!" << actual quote
>>746552093Must have been one hell of a slap to the face for them when the sakura game shut down in six months.
>>746545250>また、現在体調面に不安があるため、しばらくゲーム開発の仕事はお休みいたします。Fuck. I was only interested in the game because Niinou worked on it and yet more curious to see what he'll work on next. Now he's explicitly not working on anything, and the game is still not out. Genuinely cursed.
>>746552093>>746552229Retards, that was delightworks. FGO was just a single project of many. In fact aniplex bought the FGO part of the studio and renamed it to lasengle years after sakura taisen gacha ended.In fact the early FGO director left years ago and funded his own studio and is developing his own game for years already
>>746545940He's the retard to blame for the current situation. He straight up went on twitter before the last delay and said ''wow who knew a fully voiced game required so much recording work''
>>746552093>TYPE MOON failedthey fucking didn't, Delightworks was a separate studio and now as Lasegnle they are still separate but owned by AniplexType moon (as a full studio) doesn't work even in the development of FGO they just lend the staff for specific works in the game, they are separate
I heard FGO main story finished so why is it going on still?
>>746552768Because turning off that money faucet is a bad idea
>>746549640>『紅の錬金術士と白の守護者 ~レスレリアーナのアトリエ~』UIとシステム実装の一部協力・Switch版最適化レビューを行いました(アルファ・システムと共同開発)>対戦アクション『BLEACH Rebirth of Souls』一部モーションの開発協力を行いました(アルファ・システムと共同開発)They've made a few games of their own, but it doesn't sound like the kind of studio that's meant to do anything other than finish up and hopefully finally release a game that's for the most part finished.
>>746552768Because as EXTRA Record and all the Extella flops and all the LN series that got dropped after one volume showed TM is incapable of getting literally anything else off the ground so they don't eat without continuing FGO.
>>746552562just google what DW did around sakura taisen gacha and how their attitude turned michael jackson once it bombed.>Type moon (as a full studio) doesn't work even in the development of FGO they just lend the staff for specific works in the gameanon... if you actually think people play the game because the dev is delightwork then you are probably insane or trolling. FGO is the current FGO because of nasu's name is attached to it, in fact DW is more like negative to the brand if you consider sakura taisen gacha. They couldn't even provide good server during the first halloween event (I was there)
>>746552850Because they are just finishing it.Studio bb is a very small srudio less than 10 people and they were in charge of planning that was the main core ideas and previously bandai would help. Now that bandai is out, they will need people to actually build the game.All the creative choices were done by studio bb, the hard work will he done ny someone else
Yeah, the new studio seems to mostly be a support one, so I can't imagine dev getting reset. They'll probably gut all the unfinished new shit and focus in on the original story stuff.
>>746552895>if you actually think people play the game because the dev is delightwork then you are probably insane or trollingbut that's not what I said.. like at all? You said it was Type moon that had any problem with Sakura taisen bombing, and they didn't because they had nothing to do with it. >people play FGO because of TMok, and ? It doesn't change the fact that it's DW/Lasengle in charge of actually putting the game together
>>746552895>They couldn't even provide good server during the first halloween event (I was there)Because they timegated the best farming nodes to a very specific window.But after that they never had this much trouble during events and even more during raids.The failure of early FGO service was that they never expected that many people to like the game and wanting to actually play it. And they did get their shit together as time went on (or did you forget about the weekly maintenances that nowadays only happens before adding new content like events and new chapters)
sorry>>746552093i wanted to reply to >>746547040
>>746553150>But after that they never had this much trouble during events and even more during raids.let's be serious here, there were other problems (zero collab, for example is legendary) and other problems, mostly normal for this kind of games
>>746553092>It doesn't change the fact that it's DW/Lasengle in charge of actually putting the game togetherhuh, being lucky enough to employ shiokawa while Nasu is searching for a dev to make his game is something you can brag huh?
They better be another route or a CCC remake attach to this game with how long they been taking.
>>746544523This is even more surprising when you remember that they made Samurai Remnant much faster and completely unannounced. Something must've gone very, very wrong for the Extra remake.
>>746542948Gentlemen, we are looking at a Q4 2028 release, AT BEST.
More mana transfer
>>746553372Nah, that's definitely asking too much when they're having this much trouble remaking a game as fucking formulaic as Extra.>>746553394Omega Force have made DW for years, Studio BB is brand spanking new.
>>746553394Samurai remnant was made faster because Koei was working on it instead.
>>746552895After Baba got fired from Tales DW hired him in secret to work on the Sakura Wars mobile game.
Do they have other VNs planned after red garden?
>>746552895Back when I played F/GO 10 years ago literally nobody thought anything positive about DW. The consensus was they were insanely lucky to get an IP like Fate and get in on the gacha craze when they did.
>Hm I wonder why Studio BB couldn’t get a remake done >7 people only work at the Studio
>>746554208lol
the character design for sakura wars mobile was super cute. shame they'll never be reused for a proper videogame.
>>746554208You’ll get more FGO.
type moon remains incompetent and FGO is the only media youll getdespite being absolute shit that doesnt even have nasu working on it even more
>>746553372Dante Must Die Caren Mode
>>746553465Sorry to say but I feel like you are being too optimistic here.
>>746554397Cute eyebrows
>>746554115>After Baba got fired from Tales DW hired him in secretThat's wrong, it's even worse, after being fired from Bamco, Baba went to Square where he created a team so fucking inept at making video games (in order to make a JRPG called Prelude Rune) that Square fired him and hired Yuji Naka to try to salvage the project. Naka told Square the team was so bad they needed to assign them a simpler kind of game genre like a platformer.They ended up committing a Balan Wonderworld.
When did you realize Nasu and Takeuchi were hacks anons?
>>746554952When Takeuchi got rid of Arc's air vents
>>746554952When Nasu said he changed Tsukihime's setting to Tokyo because he wanted it to be like a grand scale capeshit movie.
>>746550779these kinds of people ruined female protags for me
>>746554952when he created Extella just so introduce lore that would justify FGO getting a part 2
>>746554208fgo 2
>>746555173pruning and quantum time lock in Extella doesn't even work the same way as FGO.
>>746555121You now remind me of when Nasu said he wanted FGO to be like the MCU lol.
>>746554952when nasu made Last Encore, what a shit show.
>>746555232that's because Nasu is a hack
Honestly, all TM non-VN games have been incredibly rough and primitive even by indie standards. This is what happens when you hire your old classmates and DnD buddies instead of anyone who actually knows what they're doing or is in touch with technology
>>746555654OG Fate/Extra was made by an actual JRPG devs, it's just a low budget PSP game.
>>746542948It's restarted development. Meaning it's scrapped, and will be rebuilt with a brand new team.
>>746542948>Fate/EXTRA Record restarts its developmentSurely you meant "resumes", right?... Right?
>>746544523>>746544602The main problem is Type-Moon is extremely autistic on quality, and it gets to a point where everything takes 5 to 10 years for anything to come out. I would not put GB Relink on the list as the same example because it's easier to make a game for a new IP than it is for something pre-existing.
>>746542948>>746555820>Under this new structure, we will continue development and preparations toward release to deliver the game to everyone.Phew, it does sound like they're resuming development and not actually restarting the whole thing.
>>746555820Maybe it'll only take like 3-4 years with an actual dev team.
>>746555654Nasu and Takeuchi like nepo hiring their friends one of the reason why it takes forever to release shit besides them being lazy.
>>746545486When you make too much money and make infinite money, it means it can take infinite time for anything to release, and therefore no deadlines can exist to be enforced so therefore things die in development or do not come out.
>>746555879Not sure why people think they would start from scratch anyway. The new studio they hired is mostly a support studio, having them finish the game makes more sense than make a whole game from scratch.
>>746542948Thank god Extra fucking sucks so I don't actually have to care about this.
>>746547850It's called inefficiency and the worst part is that when it comes down to it, management and a lack of deadlines. Cygames can get things out because despite Cyberagent being huge, they are not Sony or Aniplex big. So they have to actually try to make things that appeal to people.
>>746542948>Director just announced nah fuck this I'm outWhat the fuck, type moon is filled with hacks. Either this gets canned or now it's releasing in maybe a decade. Red Garden might genuinely be the last visual novel Nasu ever releases. He'll likely be dead before he can make another. I have never seen such a lazy and slow company.
>>746555939>Not sure why people think they would start from scratch anyway.Because turning it into a deckbuilder is retarded, as everyone should tell them. Why can't they just make a normal turn-based RPG without lameass innovations?
>>746545269It was supposed to come out a few years ago.It's been delayed 2 or 3 times by now.
>>746556067Deckbuilders are fun, I like Baten Kaitos and MMBN.
>>746545269It was supposed to release many times over the many years. It seems to be in perpetual dev hell.
>>746550040It's kind of ironic and sad how such a great franchise that is a cash cow, can not get a game like this off the ground and yet get VN's out like it's nothing.
>>746542948The game will be DOA, they've permanently raped any remaining hype for it. Good job.
>>746546303>Wtf>I thought it was coming out this year.It was delayed to 2027 like 5 months ago Anon.
>>746556207>yet get VN's out like it's nothing.Tsukihime remake was in development for like 15 years and they only released half of it...
>>746550880Dude I hate to tell you this, but Trans are literally everywhere, they are autistic like we are, except they chopped their balls off and they infest everything because they are sociopathic types.
>>746556274Well they released 2 VN's, that's more than you can say about this game. I believe they will get 2 more VN's out by the time this game is 40% finished. Even Cygames with Umamusume will have 4 Anime, a side game, and potentially even the Gacha will be caught up as well.
>>746548316Modern japanese devs can't handle remaking a PSP game with turn based RPS mechanics.
Only a company that needs 20 years to remake a visual novel needs over 7 years to remake a psp game.
>>746550779Kars is a yuritroon? Didn't know that, will unfollow. He was just some westoid I looked at once a month for occasional EN posts.
I always knew they were lazy as shit but then Nasu recently revealed in an interview this year that he tries to play a new game in the beginning of each new month.
Is there a reason why Type-Moon doesn't just re-releases Tsukihime OG packaged with Plus Disc and Kagetsu Tohya to Steam?I was thinking about it after recalling how months ago some japs users in xitter were getting upset over the tsukiweb page.
>>746555156If people could ruin things for me I'd end up hating everything. But as it stands I just hate people.
>>746556359>Well they released 2 VN'sthey didn't, they only released 1 VN since this started development.>I believe they will get 2 more VN's out by the time this game is 40% finished.this game already far in development, we saw pretty much every week dungeon across the trailers they released.
>>746548501>According to Famitsu Development is now being handled by Meteorise>of Bleach Rebirth of Souls fame.RoS was developed by Tamsoft.Also the news say that Extra Record is now being published by Aniplex and while Studio BB seems to be the main dev team still, there were structural changes (like Kazuya Niino who was the director until now stepping down and leaving Studio BB entirely).
>>746556427>he tries to play a new game in the beginning of each new dayfix'd
>>746556452It's got H content, though they do have the original eroge still up on Type Moon's website with playable demos from decades ago so I dunno.
>>746542948As someone who legitly loves Fate/Extra, this makes me sad but, at the same time, not really? The entire card deck combat concept was rubbish and I actually really liked the glass corridors of the PSP original.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0so-mHhFdI4&list=PLdR7m7PFLzQ4M42FiebXfb6id4R_wXtHl&index=19This game truly had a unique atmosphere. Maybe they'll get it right next time. It's not like Type-Moon will run out of money.
>>746544523Japanese bureaucracy + outsourced Indian incompetency. It will never ship.
>>746555992Another 10 years of FGO slop for you bro
>>746556506>Kazuya Niino who was the director until now stepping down and leaving Studio BB entirelySpeaking of, with him we lost the only source we had of news about Extra Record.We only know that were done with the 7th Chimeric Lunar Sea by the end of 2023 and that most of the work left was voice acting stuff thanks to him. We wouldn't have had any news since the 2022(?) or w/e trailer if it wasn't for him.
>>746542948Legitimately, how fucking difficult is it to remake Fate/Extra? The game takes place in a single goddamn schoolhouse and a few MGS VR mission maps and a cast of characters one-third the size of a Persona game. Why the fuck is this game of all games going through every circle of dev hell?
>>746556632>We only know they were done withFtfm.
>>746556680Nasu's friends are all as lazy as he is and he keeps hiring them for his side projects
>>746556523I think they could bent the knee by editing them out if needed, like how Kanon did with it's version on Steam.Could take the opportunity to add stuff too, like that opening video they did for fun or the prologue Nasu wrote for the Tsukihime anime.
>>746556680they were 7 people in that studio lmao
It's incredible that this franchise has never produced a single good game
>>746556680Nasu is completely brainrotted so he told them to do shit like have artwork and lore for every single servant in the tournament (100+)
>>746556892Wtf
This is funny looking back.
man, "creatives" really, really need tard wrangler with a thorned whip huh
Hakunon is the only proper MC because Nero the heroin likes girls.
>>746556954Was he really optimistic or literally just fucking lying?
>>746556989Nah.>Tamamo = Hakuno>Garcher = Hakunon>Nero = Both
Uhh who’s the Director now?
>>746557007what if he finished recording all the voicelines only for Nasu to walk into the office with a new script featuring 4 gigantic naked ladies that need to be defeated throughout the game so Buddha can also turn into a giant naked lady?
>>746552768Is FGO worth starting in the modern day?
>>746550702>Just play the original, its perfectly fine.In most aspects it sure is.Now, I don't really like the Taiga tasks that can be missed (and thus lock you out of the Shiki fightm which is what happened to me in my first run), and the battle system is just ass.>>ROCK PAPER SCISSORS LE BAD!!>You were just filtered.I finished it twice, and I've been waiting for Extra Record to do a Tamamo run but I'll probably end up playing the original yet again instead.
>>746557027Tamamo go for both too. Garcher is the only one that says "no way fag".
>>746557309Really only if you are willing to sit through a lot of shit to read a few good chapters, game is horribly outdated in every other aspect and the second arc of the game that lasted almost 8 years also completely shat the bed when it comes to actually telling a story.
>>746552768>I heard FGO main story finished so why is it going on still?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m37G-06ibAU
Extra sucks rancid shit anyway, Nasu shouldn't be allowed to touch any time period later than the current date.I don't care if that interrupts his autistic diatribes about the path of humanity, that's the worst aspect of his work anyway.
Sir, your new dev team (according to rumors) https://www.mobygames.com/company/20261/meteorise-inc/
>>746557309No it isn’t especially with how much slop chapters there is. If you really want to go read FGO story go read it on YouTube or Atlas Academy.
>>746557458They aren't the main devs on any of these, so this says absolutely nothing. They are pretty much a support studio.
>Nasu san we will help you all you have to do is continue doing FGO
>>746556630Extra has always been proto FGO.
>>746557783Nah, that's Apocrypha. Like, it actually was Proto-FGO.
I swear, if there is no fourth servant after all the years...
>>746557783Based take anyone that has been paying attention knew Extra was when Fate started turning into slop. Then FGO took some of Extra/Extella concepts and the franchise even became more shitter.
>>746557783I don't see it. It recreates the feeling of FSN in a vidya form.
>>746558016Extella came out after FGO, retard.
>>746558049>horrendous gameplay>shit waste of time story>forced nonsensical references to old entries
>>746558082Yeah and? Nasu shoved Extella shit into FGO like pruning.
>>746557783>Fate/Extra: the only holy grail war in the series to be played completely straight forward without any complication or anything interesting happening>FGO: timeline/multiverse fuckeryWat? If you can criticize Extra for anything, it's the fact that it's too simple that it's kinda boring. FGO is like, the exact opposite extreme. Do you actually play these games or do you just type shit for the sake of typing shit?
>>746558165Extella have almost nothing to do with Extra, it's not even an actual fucking sequel to it. So, saying Extra is Proto-FGO is still wrong.
Fate became shit the more writers Nasu invited to write spin offs Sakurai shat on this franchise so hard it’s wild that Nasu let’s her do whatever she wants.
Never liked the concept of Extra. I wish we could just play a game set in a normal nongimmicky modern day Holy Grail War instead of all this digital world inside the moon bullshit. The premise of historical and mythical figures coming to 21st century to fight an all out battle royale for a wish-granting device is already interesting enough but you're diluting it with all this unnecessary cyber crap.
When you think about it, Fate/Extra is the Mega Man Battle Network of Fate series.
>>746557309Yeah, but as others have said, there are a lot of shit chapters. You can easily skip every singularity up to Camelot. You might be tempted not to, but whatever you decide, you MUST SKIP SEPTEM. That shit is an insult to writing. I didn’t and I regret reading that piece of shit to this day. I'd also argue that you should skip Shimousa, but some anons like it, so idkAnyway, best chapters are Camelot, Babylonia, Lostbelt 1, 6 and 7. The rest range from okay to god-awful
>>746557309Fuck no
Would be nice if they had the balls to add Assassin Shiki. Like this, we while have Shiki vs Monster or Arcueid.
>>746557458>>746557574Judging from the info on their website they really never did any sort of big development by themselves. They mainly just did art jobs, optimization and stuff related to 3D models. Are they seriously just brought in for finishing? This is a really weird situation if that's the case.
>>746557309Not in the slightest. If you're interested in the story watch the anime(s) and read the rest using atlas or uploads of it onto Youtube, not the best but still better than playing that shitass game. FGO is horribly archaic and they probably can't make it fun to play or update it to modern standards due to the monstrous pile of spaghetti it's built on
>>746559016I think they are just there to finish it and ship it out.
>we will get gta 6 before extra
>>746557309Fgo makes you feel FOMO hard. Even if you're a whale with stacked wallet you're gonna have to wait months for S tier meta supports to have a banner so that you can start farming events and materials without wanting to blow your brains out. Not only that but you're gonna need a couple decent damage dealers as well. Also starting a mobage 11 years later just makes no sense no matter how you look at it. Sure Sony will keep it alive for a couple more years but at the end of the day we're still 11 years closer to EoS than we were at launch lmaoLike the other anon said just watch the story on YouTube if you're really curious
>>746557309The gameplay isn't nearly as bad as people say it is because they're people who quit three years ago and haven't seen the more recent changes (permanent welfare shop, more progression rewards, more helper tools for early story etc.). A few years ago the early to mid-game was a rough experience as it was hard to have a varied roster, and a varied roster is what makes the gameplay interesting, but that issue is more mitigated now.Obviously at the end of the day it's a very casual RPG, though, so your mileage will inherently vary.I also don't agree with people who tell you to skip early chapters. They're not great, but they're also short. I would say read them, skip the ones people say to skip if you've read them a bit and just really aren't invested, but at least give them a try. Part of what makes FGOs story land is the scale and number of characters involved, and skipping some of them risks hurting that aspect.
>>746559218Now that is funny how incompetent do you have to be for that to happen.
I like the RPS gameplay of the OG.
>>746559282>permanent welfare shop, more progression rewards, more helper tools for early story etcNotice how none of these changes have anything to do with the actual gameplay.
>>746559016>>746559170>I think they are just there to finish it and ship it out.Atp I don't know anymore Anons...One of Kazuya's last twitter updates about the game's development sorta implied that voice acting was the biggest aspect that had yet to be finished (>>746556954), but they were supposedly done with that by December 2025 (picrel).
>>746559282>more helper tools for early story etc.did they do anything beyond just giving new players 100+ free revives every month?
>>746559352Unit availability very obviously has to do with the gameplay. FGO is a game that asks you to have a puzzle piece that answers its battles. A servant of a specific class, NP type, trait damage bonus etc. A few years ago this made the mid-game frustrating as you could be decently far into the game with minimal options and not have the variety it asks of you. This was one of the biggest issues with the gameplay experience. Permanent welfare shop and more progression rewards addresses that.If you just fundamentally dislike the core battle mechanics, then that's a perfectly valid opinion to have, but "unit availability has nothing to do with gameplay experience in an RPG about team synergy" is a fucking retarded statement.>>746559494You used to need to be friends to use a support servants NP, that restriction is now removed. Most major fights in the main story up to Lostbelt 3 (on global) now have a system for dedicated supports where players can put up a support for that fight specifically, so when new players get to it, they have a selection of custom made supports to choose from (eg the famous Gawain fight, people put up their grailed Euryales and Chloes).In general a handful of small buffs to face carding make the early game a little easier too (the addition of QAB/Mighty chain buffs etc.)
>>746559282NTA, but did they do anything about the miserable gacha rates?I stopped playing partly because the story was miserable to go through with a daily cooldown on energy (I wanted to keep playing but the game wouldn't let me keep playing it, so I eventually stopped booting it up and then uninstalled it), but my bigger issue with FGO was how underdeveloped my account felt because the ast majority of my SQs awarded me with little stuff of actual value, compared to other gachas I played.It's a shame because I actually liked the gameplay loop of making card combos and putting an OP assist buffer and my Chen Gong along my EMIYA to spam UBW. I wish there was an offline version desu.
>>746559717In recent years the rate up 5* rate has gone from 0.7% to 0.8%, and 4* shared rate up rates have also gone up. They added a pity, but it's sky high and is more of a failsafe to not get omegafucked (330 rolls, or 30 x 11 rolls).>I stopped playing partly because the story was miserable to go through with a daily cooldown on energThey now consistently give out apples daily during events. I've been playing daily for years, do my own no-life grinding sometimes and still have 1,000+ Golden Apples stocked up myself, with a very developed account. Unless there's something exceptional about how I play, AP is pretty forgiving nowadays.>but my bigger issue with FGO was how underdeveloped my account feltThis is what the permanent welfare store addresses to some degree now, IMO.
>>746559398The fact that he suddenly went silent after Decemeber, without even the New Year stuff that japs like to do, makes me think that something happened soon after that. What are the chances that he actually IS sick, and it's not just the usual excuse?
>>746559989>>746559717Oh and a year or so ago they added blue apples, which let you turn AP into apples to use later. So if you don't want to play at one point, you can save that AP for later.
It’s going to be funny when Nasu is playing GTA VI instead of finishing his projects
>>746542948>AniplexIt's fucking over.
I just hope they won't censor the sexual content. If anything, they should add gore.
>>746554680I'll be as optimistic as I please.
They said they will share more news in September btw.
>Fate/EXTRA is set during 2030>unless they pull some 'ackchyually it's an alternate timeline version' bullshit, this date is stuck firmly in stone>that year is quickly approaching
They should have just made a game about the imperial grail war instead of wasting time on samurai remnant and the extra remake.
>>746560121I would be really surprised if any of the delays are related to Nasu. He's probably churned out years of material by now that's just sitting around in dev hell.
>>746560531Technology isn't actually advanced irl in the Extraverse, that's just the Moon Cell. The world stagnated long ago.
>>746560531I think earth is actually a Mad Max world with Matrix tubes laying around.
>>746557309it's basically the equivalent of wading through a river of liquid shit because some guy gaslit everyone else into thinking that the few corn crusted turds floating around make it all worth it
>>746560549Redline has no right being this kino. That panel Berserker using that machine gun lives rent free in my mind.
>remake finally comes out>Shiki is replaced with Mash after Taiga accidentally summons her from playing gacha on her phone
>>746561285I don't give a fuck about Shiki, I just want them to keep Blue Touko.
>>746542948I was actually looking forward to the card based gameplay and Enkidu route
>>746561845I don't think they are dropping the gameplay.
I JUST WANT TO LOOK AT TAMAMO'S FAT TITS IN 3DGIVE ME HER TITS YOU COWARD JAPS
>>746556680Nasu is an obsessed characterfag.In UBW he told the Ufotable staff to rewrite UBW with Rin as the main character instead of Saber at the last minute (basically backstabbed Takeuchi who wanted Saber). In the FGO movies and OVAs he mostly spent his time shilling Lev and Olga as much as possible, characters he resurrected from early chapters of FGO and then powerscaled. If you read the original Solomon script, it seems that Cloverworks deleted over 80% of Lev's lines. And with Olga, somehow the only section of Sanda's Case Files adapted is the section with Olga in it. Olga's valentine scene had a huge chunk of it dedicated to powerscaling her and same with his blog which he was using to powerscale Lev.In FGO, he took over OC3 to shill Sakurafaces. And if you count this summer and the anniversary unit, 4 out of 5 of the SSRs released are his original characters including not one but two King Protea SSRs.He is likely behind the rinwank in FSF as well. And finally, when he rewrote Tsukihime, he rewrote it to rebalance the powerlevels there so it's on par with FGO (this is mostly to powerscale Ciel harder.)When he heard that Ufotable was going to adapt Mayonnaise, notice how he immediately published 3 light novels to shill MahoGang harder.Mushroom going to mushroom
Can't believe they're going to add the Alice route
>>746547850>>746546880Shilling Nasu's favourite OCs in anime form. See >>746562701
>>746562701HA doesn't really seem to get shit as far as I can tell, guess that's the unwanted child
>>746562897I'm surprised that even Prilya gets more
>>746562701>In UBW he told the Ufotable staff to rewrite UBW with Rin as the main characterBecause Rin IS the main character of UBW you subhuman larper
>>746562975No they were originally adapting the Fate route. Then Nasu convinced everyone that UBW was a better choice at the very last minute kek. Takeuchi got backstabbed KEK
>>746562779Okay, but what if Liz route?
>>746562701Only Sion can stop the mushroom. She is the one thing he fears and tries to lock her away.
>>746562975(CONT)And Nasu pulls this shit every single fucking time. See what happened with Last Encore and Shaft. Nasu rewrote it with an original plot instead of the original. Moonlight Lostroom? That was Nasu retconning earlier parts of FGO. etc
>>746563046Nasu was right though. The Fate route is dog shit.
>>746563087The mushroom seems to like the melty one more as well
[BREAKING NEWS] Studio DEEN has been hired to do all the cutscenes for Extra Record
>>746563046>Saberfags and Fate route got btfo by Nasu Your response Saber fags?
>>746555859>Type-Moon is extremely autistic on qualityThe musou is fucking dogshit
>>746562701It's literally Dragon Ball Super>durr goku's transformation is now blue>hehe do you like rin? here's yellow rin! I'm yellow rin shirouuuuu
>>746563321Nasu clearly loves Musou with how both Extella games are Musou.
>>746563187>>746563301>Nasu: I will say that Rin was my favourite character when I was writing the story. Rin is like Aoko in so many aspects that it felt good to write Rin's story. Of course, Rider showed up shortly after that and everything went to hell. With regard to Saber, writing her story was always nerve-wracking because I knew she was really important to Takeuchi. Whenever an artist gets attached to a specific character, it's really stressful for me to write that character's portion of the overall story. I guess the added stress comes from the feeling that the character no longer belongs to just me, and that I need to meet someone's high expectations as I flesh them out. I noticed I was constantly pushing myself to do "better" while I was writing Saber's story. In contrast, I felt so much freedom when writing Rin's story.Rin was Nasu's number 1 in FSN. No way wouldn't he help her win
Wada art is going to be replaced with Takeuchi and everyone will be Saber.
>>746562701>when he rewrote Tsukihime, he rewrote it to rebalance the powerlevels there so it's on par with FGOReminder
>>746563762How much marijuana could a beast consume before it dies?
>>746542948I never had an inclination to play the Fate series past Hollow Ataraxia.
>>746563915Around seven marijuana
>>746563762Notice how Nasu writes a whole game to buff his favourite OCs and then like a bum gave up on the rest of it once his favourites were done.
>>746563915Who would win? Snoop Dogg or ORT?
>>746542948Nah, Nasu has enough fuckoff money and lust for his pet project to avoid that. Wait and hope.
>>746549243>tfw the steampage has been removed
>>746549572The switch?
Is the second PSP game in english yet or are the fan translators still being fags about it?
>>746546880Most of it probably doesn't even go to them. These early gacha devs were retarded. I read that the Kancolle devs signed a contract with DMM where they literally make zero money from the "game" (any version of it, even the arcade).
>>746565114The fan translation has been out for a few years, if that's what you mean.
>>746565371>I read that the Kancolle devs signed a contract with DMM where they literally make zero money from the "game" (any version of it, even the arcade).Wtf, that's just slavery
>>746565417Holy shit seriously, I thought it was like the Persona 2 PSP port which was also taking forever, thanks anon guess I'll get around to it then.
>>746545486>>The Camelot movies suckFirst one is garbage, but STELLA was kinoSecond movie is good because it's just the fights at the end animatedThought the Babylonia anime was just fine, even vastly improved certain moments like Gilgamesh's speech to his people.
It's time to accept that her game was kino and the best thing you're getting for the next ten years
>>746562701>In FGO, he took over OC3 to shill SakurafacesBased
>>746566706>her gameShe is barely in it, so it's not her game. And no, it fucking was it.
>>746566706I have Musou Fate fatigue
>>746568058Yes it was
I gave fgo a try this month, played the first singularity (it was fucking horrible)I have two questions:-Does it stop having shit writing-Will I ever get rid of the annoying little furry creature (Fou)?
>>746550779>Exact same fucking dialogue>OMGGGGG the female MC is canon and makes so much more sense *masturbates to the design*Porn addict to troon pipeline
>>746569341It sometimes is less shit but imo it never qualifies as goodYeah
>>746569341Yes, but it only gets decent for the last 2 singularities. The it gets kind of shit of the middle two chapters of epic of raiment, but the lost belt stuff isn't bad outside of sub chapters (traum, heian kyo, and anti primate biosphere) which are all garbage. Avalon le fae is pure kino though.You never get rid of the dog, but he does occasionally dissappear for a chapter or two.
>>746569341NoNo
>>746542948>6 years for a PSP remake with Chain of Memories combat>the koei tecmo musou came out in like 2 yearsWhat the fuck is going on over there. FGO can't be halting development that much
>>746560531>unless they pull some 'ackchyually it's an alternate timeline version' bullshit, this date is stuck firmly in stoneHave you not actually played any of these games? Earth is completely fucked and physical flesh and blood humanity long since extinct in the Extra-verse.
>>746569341It eventually does stop having shit writing but it takes a while to get there.Around Singularity 4 it starts getting better, at 6 it gets legitimately good, and then after that it never really gets straight up awful again outside of maybe some throwaway events.>Will I ever get rid of the annoying little furry creature (Fou)?He only very rarely accompanies you later on.
>>746555497Honestly it's impressive how he made it a completely unwatchable mess where most of the stuff had to be explained ON HIS BLOG
>>746569341>-Does it stop having shit writingWriting improves around Camelot, noticably. When the game first came out, it released up until I believe the America chapter, and was more of an experiment. So a lot of the writing of early chapters is just "lol look at this character!!! you know her from other thing". When they saw it was a success they actually got their shit together and started putting more thought into it and Camelot onwards is solid.The translation quality and prose also improves with time too.>-Will I ever get rid of the annoying little furry creature (Fou)?It has a character arc that ends at the end of arc 1. It's still around after that, but less relevant.
>>746570960Shimousa and Agartha are pure trash and both of those were main story chapters.
>>746549043FGO had an ending where due to circumstances they are not able to safely go back to their world, so only Mash and Guda make it back by being "isekai'd" into the proper, "non lostbelt" world.A lot of fans were displeased and Lasagna immediately made a new arc set 1 second before the ending where Guda and co. fight against the Norns to change their fate.Its pretty shitty, on par with the Ordeal Calls (the last filler arc).
>>746571371They aren't great, but they are still nowhere near as bad as the first few singularities.Shimousa also has a few legitimately good scenes by the way, like the Shuten stuff.
>>746571429>A lot of fans were displeased and Lasagna immediately made a new arcHave you considered the fact it continued immediately means it wasn't a response to fans, and was always the plan. Which has also been confirmed in interviews.Nasu has confirmed he DID consider having the game end with the finale, but that he didn't ultimately go with it. They intended to keep going after the finale, and have said After Time is akin to something like a fan disc from their doujin days, and that the period where they're doing After Time is where they'll see what fans want after the finale.
>>746557356>and thus lock you out of the Shiki fight which is what happened to me in my first runPretty certain her fight is exclusive to New Game+.
>>746571601They're literally on the same tier and Musashi is one of the worst things to ever be added to the franchise. I can't fathom why Sakurai is allowed to write anything because she can't go 5 seconds without furiously flicking her bean to whatever flanderized trash waifu she writes for.
>>746569341Just skip everything until London. It's not good either, but it's literally the first plot relevant chapter.The only things you need to know is that Leprechaun Man from the prologue accidentally gets himself killed, and some Demon Pillars (lackeys of the big bad) are dead too.
>>746571850It's not. I got my ass whooped by her on my first blind playthrough
>>746571954Literally no, but have a (You)
>>746572043It literally is. There isnt even a pathway to her boss room on the 1st playthrough
>>746572129Ok tertiary
>>746571954I disagree.
>>746560531This was Extra funny in the NA version of OC3, which just released
>>746572218That has nothing to do with the quality of writing, but ok
>there will never be a fate action game that isn't some musou shitI'm not asking for fucking God Hand here, just gimme something with a bit of depth. Or hell, a proper RPG that isn't RPS or card-based. Fucking SOMETHING.
>>746573460Too much spaghetti.
Fate Samurai/Remnant kinda sucked. I'm genuinely surprised it got positive receiption.
I remember before getting into fate thinking it was a ntr series because of all the ntr hentai
>>746573540It didn't suck, you just didn't like it. It's exactly this entitled kind of behavior that people have that stops me from taking this board's opinion seriously since... I can't remember, when were you guys spamming "u mad" even? 2012?
>>746574003You just have low standards and shit taste
>>746573540Gaijins got filtered by musou and Japanwank but it's well-regarded in Japan.From posters here you would think it was a half-assed musou game with a tacked on story but it's a lot more fleshed out than that. Not the best but definitely could have been much lamer
>>746573540It's good though. Outside of the way it handles items and digressions/side quests, I like it a lot.
>>746574457That's exactly how I thought of it lol.>>746574514It's meh. Anytime the story gets interesting, it changes gears and then it just ends. Gameplay is just mashy mashy turn button off Iori goes WOOOSH WOOSH WOOOOOSH. Enemies are all health spongie and it's funny as fuck because you initially hate playing as Iori but you literally want to be playing as him all the time in end game because of how OP he gets.
>>746574397Typical "no u" answer from IRL bots, I'm going back to lurking porn imagedumps. Have fun being miserable, faglord.
Fate fans are weird, huh.
>>746573540I liked it.What did you hate bout it?
>>746574578Just the fact that SR went into detail about worldbuilding how an HGW and magic in Edo Japan would work and had an MC they bothered fleshing out with a backstory, motives and relationships shows they cared more than just making it a tacked on story. You're not giving it credit where it's due
>>746573540>mechanics fit Fate well, Master/Servant swapping, armor system that signifies a difference between demonic/magical and non-magical entities, that is used narratively to present Iori's growth in strength>awesome music>story is awesome with a great cast, relies very little on existing Fate knowledge but still manages to have a fuckton of fanservice>large roster of playable charactersI dunno man I thought it was awesome
>>746542948>Fate/EXTRA Recordwhat kind of game is it supposed to be?
>>746574783Nobody knows what you mean when you say something this vague
>>746576949A remake of the original PSP game.
>>746577240then why is this so hard for them? are they pulling a FF7R?
>>746577983Essentially, yes.>New Combat system>More NPC interactions, quest, arena stuff>Rehauled/Updated visuals>Way more voice workThe original Extra was incredibly formulaic and they wanted to have more things happen without changing the main story.
>>746577983We just don't know. But it had to be something really bad for them to shit the bed like this.
>>746578118do I need to play FGO or is it okay that I only read FSN?
>>746578208>FGONot really>FSNMaybe to understand the dynamic between two servants but even that's not all that necessary.Extra is its own continuity.
>>746578208You also need to read Tsukihime to know why Arc is there, KnK to know why Shiki is there, and Mahoyo to know why Aoko is there
>>746555859Nothing of what you said makes any sense considering the games that come out of the Fate IP and how well made Relink is. Relink also lifts most of it's stuff directly from GBF itself.
>>746555859>Type-Moon is extremely autistic on qualitythese people?
>>746546448Twi-Lumina is the Kagetsu Tohya Len story remake, they already announced it'll have a VN story mode by Nasu though I bet it'll be pretty short.Fuck FGO btw I will curse it to my dying breath
>>746578208The original version came out before FGO, so no you don't need to play FGO. At most you'd miss a reference to it if they have added any. It's good to have FSN knowledge but even that isn't necessary.
>>746550779I've hated this nigger for years for being an FGOnigger larping as a Tsukihime fan. Thanks for giving me further reason.
ExtellaGODSWe continue to mog the card battler rock paper scissors keks
>>746550779I don't see what's wrong with the opinion stated in this.
>>746573540The gameplay got really tiring especially in NG+ (fuck locking true ending behind that) and the stray servants were pointless cameo bullshit that didn't add much to the story, but at least it was better than any other Fate thing in the last decade.
I fucking hate staggering
>>746563491But they aren't even good musous
>>746580195OK to add to the stray servant thing, not all of them were bad, mostly just the returning ones like Arjuna and Cu really didn't need to be there, the new ones were nice. And Circe's pig thing was cute.
>>746580078The thread is worded to be as biased as possible with... their preference.>>746569470>>746551437
It's truly a shame how the most redpilled Type-Moon IP has so much bad luck.
>>746580078>>746581108Not to mention outright wrong information like>if Extella/Zero was adapted instead, the female would have been the MC.
Karl is cool.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_mIN0AitW4
>>746581673FeMC fags truly are a piece of work.
>>746545486>Strange/Fake GODS winningOne volume a year wasn't that bad after all. Vol. 10 anyday now.
>>746550779FeMC shitters are always AGP troons anyway, no exceptionsIt's why you never give them an inch
https://www.gamespark.jp/article/2026/09/01/171557.html>『Fate/EXTRA Record 』developed by “Meteorize”― and has previously worked on Big Breasts Hyper Battle 『Valkyrie Drive Bhikkhuni』>Regarding the new distributor being Aniplex 『Fate/EXTRA Record』, it has been revealed that Meteorize will be in charge of development.>It was originally scheduled to be released in 2025 as a joint development title between Bandai Namco Entertainment and TYPE-MOON, but sales from Bandai Namco Entertainment were ultimately discontinued. As of March 2026, development was continuing, but new distributors and release dates were announced “as soon as they were decided”.>On August 31st of the same year, the new distributor of this game was decided to be Aniplex, but in this announcement, development is referred to as “Meteorize”.>Speaking of Meteorize, it is a company that has collaborated on the development of 『Red Alchemist and White Guardian ~Atelier Resleriana~』, as well as aggressive busty hyper battle 3D action 『Valkyrie Drive Bhikkhuni』 in general.
>>746580078>Wanting female protagonists isn't for the "yuri."This part is definitely wrong and gay. There's probably more, but I'm not reading the whole thing.
>>746543518Aniplex gets a big cut of the money because they publish FGO
>>746550779That's absolute bullshit.>ExtraThere are differences, but they're extremely minor, and they only exist to explain why and/or how female servants still obsess over a female master. It's literally a patchwork job to handwave the existence of a female option that's only there for the sake of having it. The fact that the game has to elaborate on the female protagonist's existence tells you that the female protagonist wasn't the intended experience, especially in the context of BB's antics.>FGONow that's absolute horseshit. There's no difference between male and female Gudas. None. Other than altered lines for some servants, there's nothing. Gudako from Riyo's manga is not the protagonist at all, it's a big fat gag poking fun at the player base that's never taken seriously because you have to be mentally ill to take it seriously. It has no bearing on the official FGO storyline, or the protagonists. It's also disingenuous to ignore that the male Guda also exists in Riyo's manga, as a gay pervert who's obsessed with Astolfo specifically. The only reason why FGO has a 5* Saber Astolfo in a bunny suit is because of that.
>>746552521So who put him as director then?
>>746554218it's still the same opinion pretty much.the game is dogshit and carried entirely by the writing and being Fate
>>746545486at least Strange Fake was pretty fun to watch
>>746542948>convince Nasu to make a Extra remake>make TM create a new studio for you and your team>release nothing in 6 years>leaveWhat did he mean by this?
>>746585538It's pretty obvious that Hakuno is meant to be paired with the female servants and Hakunon is meant to be paired with the male ones. Other options is literally playing the game incorrectly
>>746542948canceling a game financed by gachabux ? stop being delusional
>>746586323You may be right; I never played the male servant routes because I'm not gay.
>>746586323In a moment of peak basedness brought to you by Arco Wada, FGO Hakunon calls Nero and Tamamo her wives. Hakuno does not do this.
>>746550390you'd be amazed how unfinished software can be even shortly before the release deadlinedevs will just endlessly hide their failures instead of going to their boss and saying>shit is fucked, this will never work outuntil the very last day and bad managers let this slip by because they don't control the progress sufficiently but just trust some verbal assurances that everything is fone
When you think of Melty Blood, what's the main theme you think of? Melty Blood or Blood Drain?
>>746586481That's because Hakuno is suited for either space adventures with Gilgamesh or being back on Earth with Sakura.
>>746586558Ecks dee.
>>746585538>The fact that the game has to elaborate on the female protagonist's existence tells you that the female protagonist wasn't the intended experienceIt's extremely obvious if you play with Tamamo or Gilgamesh. A lot of their dialogues really only make sense in the context of normal relationships.>>746586323Not the case with Gil, really. I would honestly say that the male protagonist fits way better with him.
>>746550779not reading all that drivel but I would have preferred Gudako simply because of all the shitposts with her
>>746550991>Surely people are tired of these characters by nowNo, I still like the characters and they are what keeps me reading.But I sure am tired of the gameplay and have been for years. If not for FGA automating 99% of it, not even the stories would have kept me around for this long.
>>746586481FGO versions of those characters were gags. Female Hakuno's gag was that she's stone-faced but perverted on the inside. Both of them are also often portrayed as chuunibyou, as a reference to some joke lines in Extra. Ultimately though, they're plain self-inserts, like all Persona protagonists.
>>746586892(X) Doubt.>>746551692
>>746587000I played it. It was not a serious continuation of the Extra franchise. It's just something Nasu used to do for his visual novels - a short comedic spinoff focusing on whatever characters he likes most but couldn't give enough screen time to.
>>746586892>like all Persona protagonistsAll Persona protags have defined personalities.Door is an emo kid listening to music all the time to try and remain aloof and on his own. Very kuudere.Brotag is friendly guy, very dependable looking.Joker pretends to look like a harmless everyman but he's rebellious by nature.The next MC will be very calm, act lazy and peaceful but won't be afraid of conflict if necessary.They're based on the 4 humors.
>>746587173If you say so...
>>746551692>>746587000OC3 literally has the Hakunos say they beat Velber (the Extella big bad) offscreen lol, I don't think we're getting any more games.
>>746587283>>All Persona protags have defined personalities.They only have those personalities in spin-offs, such as movies and spin-off games where they have names. P4 protag is a good example, because his personality changes from adaptation to adaptation, showing that he doesn't really have a set one.In the actual mainline games, Persona protagonists are always written very carefully so you can express yourself through them. You give them your name, and experience everything through their eyes. They have their quirks, Doorman's dialogue can be hilariously dry and sardonic, while Joker's options can be very comedic, but that's defined by the tone of their games. Once again, P4 protag is a great example - he never gets any interesting dialogue choices because his game is boring dogshit.
>>746587450>admitted to wasting DDD's sequel ideas in FGO>Extella sequels off-screen>Mahoyo epilogue to sequels that never happened as a gacha event>probably same will happen with TsukiRe at this rateEvery year makes me more convinced Nasu got brain damage 10 years ago, or the money really did just turn him into a fucking hack.
>>746588032It's truly a tragedy how the most based and repilled Type-Moon IP (the Extraverse) got screwed over by Nasu.
>>746588032He just has fuck you money now so he doesn't need to try anymore. He writes a FGO chapter every few years, everyone sucks his dick and then goes back to doing fuck all.
>>746586892>Ultimately though, they're plain self-inserts, like all Persona protagonists.Ehh, Hakuno pretty much a full fledged character in the first two games. Also, it's not like they are actual silent protagonists, 50% of Extra is pretty much their inner monologues.
Reminder that Extella Link was a legitimately good musou game with lots of fun action (way better than Extella 1 or most Koei musous), great character models (a huge improvement over the first game), and a fun fanservicey storyline. If you're a fan of Extra and you didn't played it, you missed out.
>>746587450Nasu said he wanted to do Extella 2 and 3 in 2025, a whole year after OC3 happened.
>>746588629I played it.It was goodge. And the different final boss dialogue if you're playing Charlie was cool.
>>746588695Nasu says a lot of things and most of them are bullshit.
>>746588629>and a fun fanservicey storylineI agree with your other points, but this is straight up a lie. Extella Links have easily the worst story in the Extraverse, and considering Extella 1's quality, that says a lot.
>>746588621>Also, it's not like they are actual silent protagonists, 50% of Extra is pretty much their inner monologues.There's a reason why it's written that way - you project your own speech onto them. The protagonist barely says a word in Extra games, so as not to break the illusion. They're self-insert'ier than some of the more blatant VN self-inserts.
>>746588857They are self insert, but they are not really the same as Persona self inserts. Self insert =/= blank slate.
>>746588819I didn't say it was great, I said it was fun. Plenty of dialogue with the servants, plenty of skirmishes. You even get to flirt with Scathach, something FGO never fucking let you do.
>>746589039I'd say he's pretty damn blank. No name, no voice, no past worth mentioning, no hobbies, no unique talents, nothing.
>>746589218That's kinda the point you know, they're NPCs who gained sentience.
>>746589309Well, yes. A blank self-insert for the player.
>>746588819I liked the Extella Link story more than vanilla Extella, Karl was a better villain than Altera
>>746589218Nta, but literally the whole point is that they start as blank slate and then become their own person by the end. Also, I don't think that's what people mean when they say "blank slate".
FGO has always been shit but now I don't even get the satisfaction of seeing cool historical figures turned into anime anymore, every year I check what they added and it's>Jap/China wank>swimsuit alt of previous servant>collab fanservice character>a god who shouldn't even be a Servant seriously are they out of ideas>combination of the above
>>746589368>Karl was a better villain than AlteraWell, for one, that's probably because Altera isn't actually the villain of Extella. Also, Altera route is still better than anything in Links.
>>746589712Not counting summer, this year has been mostly historical/mythological chars though
At least now they only have one more Sakuraface to throw a swimsuit at.Guess it's up to Wada to give Altera a swimsuit next year.
>>746586892I don't know about Extella but Hakuno/n aren't plain self-inserts whatsoever in Extra and CCC.You are privy to a constant stream of them monologuing their thoughts and they have quite a lot of character.
>>746590014All of those fall under what I said except John who also came as part of the FSF collab I imagine. Jacques is a genderbend of a Servant that already existed and Logres is yet another Saber.
>>746590087Isn't Altera in FGO under Huke instead of Wada? Also, would be surprised if Hakunon get a swimsuit before Altera.
>>746590014>SF collab servants are the only good ones
>>746590207Male Jacques came before the female version actually
>>746590014>FSF collab>no Alcides, Zealot, Jack or Pale RiderWhat a waste
>>746589712You know they getting tired when they straight up started adding gods.
>>746590415They started adding gods since year 1...
>>746590173The monologues are very simple. They do not express any character quirks, they simply state what's happening and what the character is feeling/guessing. You're supposed to imagine what the MC is acting like yourself.
>Nasu said Liz and Nero (Extra) saved the entire franchise by carrying them on their back at Type Moon's lowest point >The way they treated Fate Extra remakeShameful
>>746590252Huke's Altera is fucking disgusting
>>746589712It's pretty obvious that they ran out of mythologies and histories Nasu actually gave a shit about a long time ago. What we get now are rehashes and literal whos scraping the bottom of the barrel from established settings.
>>746590415Yeah I imagine it's because Ishtar and Eresh were unfortunately super popular despite being pseudo-servant slop (carried by Rin's design) so they decided it's okay to just do whatever the fuck.And they're right, FGO's audience doesn't care or have standards.
>>746590530>They do not express any character quirksEhh, they are straight up the funniest characters in CCC, especially in Gil's route, so I don't know about that.
>>746590569Liz is irrelevant if we're strictly speaking about Extra.
>>746590569>Liz
>>746590530>They do not express any character quirksThey do.
>>746590639Kama also led to an explosion of fanart.
>Saberface>Or Rinface>Or a Sakuraface>For two decadesRiveting franchise
>>746590639No Gods rule was boring anyway, I'm glad they just add the actual gods as servants now instead of pseudoslop.
Wouldn't mind more Luviafaces and MiyufacesHell, some Reinesfaces would be neat too
>>746591145Gods as Servants completely goes against the concept of the human order and what FGO purports itself to to be about, but I guess not even the writers care enough to respect that so it's whatever. FGO's creators and fans do not give a fuck about it on any deeper level. It's a completely soulless endeavor.Pseudo-Servant slop is awful too, I don't know which is worse frankly.
>>746591436FGO is about making historical/mythological characters into cool anime men and cute anime women, anything else is secondary. The main story was impossible to take seriously after it dragged on for so many years, and it had an awful ending too.
Nasu is such a fucking hack and I'm ashamed that despite everyone being aware of it, this franchise still will never get rebooted because of a few whales and his cocksuckers. His whole career was made on copying Boogiepop and adding chuuni otaku shit within it.Takeuchi should have legit frauded him out of his copyrights as he is still the only reason Fate makes money to this day, because he made some of the greatest designs in fiction back 20+ years ago.Every time he expanded his lore it became more retarded and uncomprehensible, he never cared once about the sanctity of his franchise even since HA, Urobuchi struggled to incorporate Nasu's chuuni shit from which stems Zero's biggest flaws, he let other shit hack writers just do whatever they wanted as long as he could get the money, lied FGO was just going to be a spinoff up until it became Fate's main cannon all subsequent projects are based around, writes all of FGO on a whim and simply retcons whatever he doesnt like.The original VN isn't perfect but the benchmark of Fate is still a goldmine of interesting ideas and cool shit, yet we'll never have anything ever to the level of F/SN or Zero like ever. This is a 7 billion worth franchise, and it feels like even current star wars is better handled. FGO in particular just fucked everything, they already put in every fucking historical and mythos they could think of and all of them are omega chuuni waifu/husbandobait with degenerate coomer designs and some of the most bland and uninspired backstory ever.It comes to a point they still have to shill Arjuna and Karna because it is still TO THIS DAY one of the only good shit coming out from FGO's 350 token heroic spirits.
>>746579340That's what people assume, but if Red Garden was cancelled, there would be more to it.
TsukiRE steam release tomorrow
>>746590614>It's pretty obvious that they ran out of mythologies and histories Nasu actually gave a shit about a long time ago. What we get now are rehashes and literal whos scraping the bottom of the barrel from established settings.And that's why none of them ever get popular and the only designs that catch on are the pure coombait ones like Snake Lady and VerdandiThey don't even try anymore
>>746592627Azrael got plenty of art too and he's not coombait
What does Nasu do nowadays?
>>746592760He's coombait for women
>>746592627Verdandi is a good design
>>746591857A lot of words just to end up saying you're a faggot
