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>Looks like my summer vacation is... over...
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>2 hour tutorial
Yeah, I'm skipping that shit
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Roxas is the best and was made to suffer
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>>746603673
who tf is this mickey mouse shoe bum i have to play as after roxas
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>only played KH1
>heard I have to play CoM to understand KH2
is it really worth suffering through this garbage just to contextualise this game?
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>>746603673
literal goosebumps brother
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>>746603801
>>746603673
The character absolutely encapsulated the emo "I'm too special, the world doesn't understand me" 2000's feeling just like Neku from The Worlds end With You
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>>746603860
Yes if you want to understand what's really happening, no if you want to experience the game as if you were Roxas and Sora and having not fucking idea of what happened
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>>746603673
I don't get people's attachment to this character. This whole section was a mess and the OG trio were way more fun as characters. I guess I missed the intended elementary school age range for this game and didn't get it or something.
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>>746603801
why is she like this
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>>746603673
Roxas’s arc is legitimately good, says volumes how shit 3 was that they thought it was something to fix
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>>746603979
Which works better narratively?
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>>746603860
It's actually best to go into KH2 with as little knowledge of the series as possible outside of the stuff from KH1.
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>>746604116
Well, that's impossible to tell because you either experienced one or the other but not both.
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>>746603860
actually no if you play CoM first in some ways KH2 is even more confusing
t. played CoM on the GBA before KH2 came out on PS2
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>>746603860
CoM is fun though
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>>746603673
Modern kh could never get this emotional
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>>746603860
Unironically chain of memories is the most important game in the series since it sets up A LOT.
People recommend the GBA over the HD remake. I played a bit of the beginning of the GBA version and it is actually a lot more faster and snappier so I would recommend it.
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>>746603673
gaming never surpassed this lvdokino
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>>746604130
I plan on playing most of the series eventually, is it still best to dive straight into KH2 and maybe go back for the spinoffs?
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So what was the plan if he had won and taken over Sora? Axel was gone and the Twilight Town kids were never his friends so there was no home to return to.
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Nobody May Cry update WHEN?
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>>746604798
just play KH1 & 2.5 on critical mode
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>>746603860
Anyone telling you that Chain Of Memories is mandatory is lying.
It's icing for lorefaggotry, but entirely unnecessary to understand what's going on.
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>>746604798
1 and 2 are all you need mate the rest are pretty shit
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Effay or nay?
Cop or not?
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>>746604965
It's necessary for KH3 but not KH2 funny enough.
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>>746603673
>Looks like my summer vacation of 358 days has been... Divided by 2
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>>746605206
holy kino
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>>746605156
No
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>>746605339
Repliku makes no sense without it since you'd think it's just Dark Riku Ansem with all the timetravel
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>>746605446
Also wrong.
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>>746604863
He just wanted to vent his frustations
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>>746604965
>but entirely unnecessary to understand what's going on.
If we are going for that, then the Iliad is completely unnecessary to understand the Odyssey, that you can understand the basic of a story doesn't means that you get the entire thing.
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358 is more summer-y than 2
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>>746603860
My hot take. CoM has the best story and some of the best character moments in the entire franchise. I don't blame anyone for deciding to skip it. You're mileage will vary on how much you're willing to tolerate the gameplay.

Its not like DDD takes a massive shit on the story front and ruins everything go forward. There is nothing KH3 could have done to course correct from that garbage. I don't consider anything after 2 canon.
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>>746604863
Anything he wanted to do
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>>746603801
My first kingdom hearts game was 358 1/2 days and I loved Roxas. When I got around to playing the first two kingdom hearts games I thought Sora was so much lamer.
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>>746603673
August 2026 was such a horrible month for celebrities…
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W-what does kupo mean?
Is this guy calling me a slur?
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>>746603801
Naminè is pure love

https://youtu.be/jxia8Z0Kyx8?is=2zr2F4u7phoMRqec
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>>746606387
imagine if you ended up with your own nobody irl and they turned out hotter and cooler than you i'd actually neck myself
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>>746603860
>is it really worth suffering through this garbage just to contextualise this game

You overreacting idiot, at least it’s only ONE side game into an actual sequel. From KH2 to KH3 is a fucking mess and only gets worse since they included mobile phone slopage into the plot.
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>>746605995
It's fine if you like chain of memories, or think it makes you look cool in online discussions, but no.
And I can't believe I have to explain something as gay and stupid as this, but in the Big Hero 6 world the entire schpiel is about a replica heart being made from data being functional as a heart, and it's made abundantly clear that the Norted Riku is a Replica.
It also plays into the fact that they quietly acknowledge that Data Sora has a heart fairly early on and that you need to remember that.
Maybe the specifics of knowing that Repliku is specifically from Chain Of Memories but even if BBS/KH0 is necessary I wouldn't say knowing Lea and Axel are the same guy is at all mandatory information.
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>>746604798
these two are right
>>746604928
>>746605036
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>>746605206
>Maybe my summer vacation a birth by sleep.
Bravo Nomura, I fucking clapped
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>>746606552
So you have 0 reading comprehension? I wonder why this so common now
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>>746606634
Throwing a tantrum because I won't engage with your gay authority seeking behavior to excuse your lack of reading comprehension doesn't mean I can't read.
It means you can't but still want to feel smart.
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>>746603673
>Roxas gets to plap this

It ain’t fair
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>>746606751
No ape, it means that you didn't even understood the analogy of the Iliad and the Odyssey.
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>>746605051
eh, maybe. if there's a better one sure
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>>746603860
If you have this state of mind don't bother.
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>>746606809
Nigger you're not going to pull rank on me over shit they have you read in middle school, get real.
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>>746606762
Riku* If you see the ending of 3
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Kingdom Hearts thread on the last day of August? Sweet!
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>>746607090
Ape, you can't be for real, I refuse to believe that you are that stupid.
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>>746603860
>>746604203
This. CoM and KH2's stories are carefully crafted to an extent that CoM isn't required playing for 2. In the beginning of KH2, both Roxas and Sora are out of the loop on a lot of new information that's only really uncovered in KH2.
t. Played CoM before 2 but didn't get to the end of Sora's story to understand what happened to Sora or that Riku had his own entire story you can unlock
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>>746606762
That's actually Riku
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>>746603860
CoM is a good story.
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>>746603673
Don´t do that. You are going to make me play KH2 again and off course i couldn´t possibly play KH2 without first playing the original and BBS.
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im still here. i didnt even play 3
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>>746608826
I like Sora's side.
It shows how unhinged he is, as we saw when he pierced his own heart to free Kairi's.
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>>746603860
If you're gonna be a fag at least watch the cutscenes
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>>746607959
here here. always hated roxas.
no one is really dead in kingdom hearts. all sacrifices and sad moments are invalid.
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>>746609509
I laugh at this scene because death is meaningless in this shit series filled with bad writing. Kingdom Hearts is shit.
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>>746604863
sex with namine
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>>746603860
Hardly anyone had played Chain of Memories going into the second game when it first came out so I wouldn't really worry about it. If anything it makes certain elements feel more mysterious.
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>>746609591
He died for real only to come back and die again for realer
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>>746609642
If you die for real in Kingdom Hearts you go to the Final World to get ready for reincarnation and yes its feasible to remember your old life if you're special enough so there is no death.

And seeing Xehanort alive in KH4 does not help matters. And don't say its not the real Xehanort or whatever the issue is seeing Xehanort still alive fresh as a daisy alongside other killed characters like Strelizia. Death is meaningless in this series and I hate this bullshit.

You know what angers me? Kairi's first voice actress died recently in real life, there is no bad writing power of waking to revive her, she died she's gone from reality. And Nomura is such a shit for brains he probably thinks death will not apply to him. Can't respect a bastard who ridicules death which is something no human on this Earth will escape.
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>>746609591
I wish death wasn't meaningless in this series because it's damn funny that despite Sora's image as a goody two shoes happy face only guy he murders his enemies.
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>>746610184
Sora is an inverse of the modern Shonen Hero. Modern ones don't kill because they are wimps. In turn Sora liberally kills his enemies but they refuse to stay dead through nonsensical writing.

Seriously this isn't even exclusively a Sora issue. Remember how in Disney's Sleeping Beauty Maleficent got impaled through the heart bleeding to death? In Kingdom Hearts she got the same exact injury during Birth by Sleep that should have killed Maleficent however inexplicably Maleficent walks off being impaled by the sword of the Good Faeries. This is what I mean about nonsensical writing. This series treats death like this...

Death? Nah that's optional walk it off.
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>>746609552
>no one is really dead in kingdom hearts
Old Xehanort and Eraqus already went to super Heaven.

Everyone else is fair game.
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>>746603860
No. The whole game can be summarized in like 3 points:
>sora gets mind wiped and has to get his memories stitched back together
>during this he meets some weird organization, a handful of their members end up dying to him or axel (another member)
>riku is on his own side quest against ansem at the same time
I played CoM when it released on the GBA, and I was still confused as fuck by KH2. It's by design.
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>>746610056
>And seeing Xehanort alive in KH4 does not help matters.
It's a copy he made 50+ years ago that got stuck in notPurgatory (Quadratum).
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>>746603860
You dont need to play CoM to understand KH2 but you actually need to play 358/2 before to understand Roxas and the events in KH2 related to him
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>>746604863
I mean the alternative is his soul is basically absorbed by sora. He's just fighting for his survival here.
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>>746610767
Days events are borderline fanfiction, the only scenes that matter are the ones that they show in II (Axel befriending Roxas, Roxas leaving, Roxas vs Riku).
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>>746610350
Riku is very lucky
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>>746610767
>you need to play the game released after 2 to understand 2
no, no you do not
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>>746610767
>need to play a game that didn't come out until 4 years after KH2
not how it works bro.
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>>746603860
No you dont, skipping CoM just makes a few more things a mystery, but the intro of 2 is always its own mystery regardless. CoM has a nice plot on paper but the 3d version butchers it with phoned in dialogue and a bad translation/localization. Also the 3d version adds a few scenes that spoil the mystery at the beginning of 2.
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>>746604038
Its a metaphor for growing up
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I'm replaying the game, and only now, after decades, have I realized that the reason we appear atop the Disney princesses' stained glass is that they're all inhabiting Sora's heart.
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Roxas is a chick magnet
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Roxas was better with Namine. hated that Xion BS
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>>746611250
It's all connected, welcome to Nomura's wild ride.
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>>746611383
How is it no one was autistic enough to combine souls and kh yet lol
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>>746610568
>In Kingdom Hearts she got the same exact injury during Birth by Sleep that should have killed Maleficent however inexplicably Maleficent walks off being impaled by the sword of the Good Faeries
Because they can't kill off a character that appears in KH1 in a prequel. The better question is why did they tie Malificient's return in 2 to the asinine time travel plot: she appears in KHUX after getting stabbed in KH1, then is taught how to time travel (despite being just a heart trapped in a Data Version of her Castle) to return at the beginning of 2, something that never comes up in any of the games except KHUX, despite it being something weird that she would probably mention.
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>>746611449
Sora was panic rolling back when Miyazaki was still working as an accountant who didn't even know video games were a thing.
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>>746603860
Sora doesn't have his memories from CoM so you will just be as confused as him
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>>746610867
I wonder how Kairi feels about her Nobody getting slammed by Riku every night while she's waiting on Sora to return.
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>>746603673
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>>746610056
>You know what angers me? Kairi's first voice actress died recently in real life, there is no bad writing power of waking to revive her, she died she's gone from reality.
She voiced already all her lines for KH4, so the actress, in a sense, is being brought back to life in the new game, yes.
Nomura’s whole purpose with these games is to give a fuller life to his late male muse who passed away too soon. He’s genuinely creating these games to honor a deceased actor.
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>>746612032
The one that died stopped being Kairi's VA a long time ago
KH4 is not her, neither is KH3
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>>746611525
>The better question is why did they tie Malificient's return in 2 to the asinine time travel plot
This is the reason.
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Love me some Rucksack.
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>>746611403
Too bad there is no stained glass for Ventus in KH1.
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>>746612351
He's the reason the princess are there, he's a pure light and met all 3 in BBS.
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Namine draws like shit for a twelve year old
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>>746612032
Okay, I'll bite. Who was Nomura's muse?
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Is it true that the main reason Nomura created Ventus was just to explain why Roxas and Naminé are blond, even though they’re Sora and Kairi’s Nobodies? Normally, Nobodies in the series resemble their original selves, but Roxas has blond hair instead of brown, and Naminé has blond hair instead of Kairi’s red hair. The idea is that since Ventus was kept inside Sora’s heart, his presence influenced not only how Sora’s Nobody looked, but also Kairi’s, as her heart was also kept safe inside Sora’s.
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>>746612594
Steve Harvey

>Alreay half XehaHUH?
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>>746603860
Just watch the cutscenes on YouTube that's what I did
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>>746612449
>12
Anon, she's like 15.
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>>746612646
I think Ventus exists just so people could be confused about the secret ending of 2 and be a forced mystery. Frankly Roxas and Namine being different doesn't really need an explanation since the circumstances of their existence is so much different than other nobodies
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her...
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>>746612594
River Phoenix, he was a young American actor hailed as a rising star before his life was tragically cut short. During his career, he developed a huge following in Japan, where he was seen as the Western embodiment of bishounen. After his death, Leonardo DiCaprio stepped into the spotlight in a similar way, even taking on some roles originally meant for Phoenix, leading many to view him as the actor’s spiritual successor.
Nomura has drawn inspiration from both Phoenix’s past roles and physical appearance in his games, as well as from DiCaprio’s.

This is why many of the main characters in Nomura’s games have names connected to the sky, water, or both, thanks to River. Just look at Squall, Cloud, and others. Same for their hairstyles, looks, and so on.
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>>746611449
That's Jacks game. Or the original KH. Depending on who you ask.

>>746612646
If thats the actual reason then it's retarded. You can just say that Ansem the wise is Kairi's Dad or relative and therefore she has blonde genes in her.
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>>746606189
This was me too, because I never had a PlayStation growing up. Roxas not being the main protagonist never felt right to me when I went back and played the other games.
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>>746613047
Can I be River Phoenix?
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Childhood is hating the KH2 prologue
Adulthood is understanding it was the pinnacle of the series and an example of videogames as art
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Roxas is just a sociopathic Sora but not edgy
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>>746613518
Also known as "Jesse McCartney, Quinton Flynn, and Christopher Lee carry the story on their back with amazing voice talent"
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>>746613232
I mean, that would just make it so that DiZ abused and tried to kill his own non-daughter.
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>>746613656
>Quinton Flynn
his kh3 performance was as awful as it gets
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>>746613994
I think the voice direction for KH3 in general was shit. Rikus lines especially when he's doing all the exposition dumping with Mickey, they sound so stiff and awkward.
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>>746610350
At some point they will have to buy her new clothes
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>>746614629
But that one is perfect.
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>>746612449
I mean, anyone draws like shit at any age if they haven't practiced
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>>746613847
I mean, I can think of 2 ways that it would make sense.

1. Ansem ends up losing his kingdom, his kid, and his people to his apprentices betraying him and ends up on a path of revenge. Eventually learns that said Kid is alive but instead of going to her he has to deal with the Nobody of said daughter which would be a constant reminder of his failures as not only a father but as a king. So he is especially harsh to said Non-daughter as a way to cope and vent. He also knows that he can't kill said Faker cause she is needed to save his daughters boyfriend/Hero of this story. It would probably drive him crazy.

2. Kairi ends up going to Radiant Garden to try and get help to find Sora. Ansem doesn't seem like the type of guy that would normally help. But if Kairi was said daughter, and more importantly peaced that together, she could probably guilt trip him/ have him pay her back for not being in her life and raising her, his hands would be tied. Plus if she is his kid that would mean she probably grew up with Ienzo before she ended up on Destiny Island. And Ienzo was one of the people watching over Kairi during her 1 year sleep. Not sure about Even. Maybe he help cause he wanted to continue his atonement.
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>>746612449
Pretty par for the course in the 00s unless you were chinese
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>>746603860
Playing KH2 without playing CoM is actually kino because you feel like Sora does in the game, walking around and wondering wtf is going on and who these people are
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>>746612449
She and Roxas are technically like 1 year old.
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Why Vanitas looked like Sora, though?
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>>746603801
what a bitch
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>>746612417
Wait, WAIT, WHAT!?
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>>746612938
WIFE
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>>746611878
>another version of you is getting slammed by your boyfriend's best friend
>another version of your boyfriend is slamming yet another version of your boyfriend only she looks like you did at 14
>the only other girl on your island is getting slammed by 2 Blitzball champions daily

This is why women get emotionally confused and start eating carpet.
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>>746616176
Just how many people have been inside Sora? For reals
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>>746606378
Kupo is a moggles equivalent to nigga
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>>746603673
nice RE:Zero reference
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>>746603801
>freeze time just to mindrape you
>start walking around the streets for no reason when you can literally teleport
>say "I wanted to meet you" then walk away
>"there's so much I need to tell you" then spend the time saying you shouldn't be alive
>promise to see you again after explaining in detail how you'll die soon

Namine is peak woman.
Show up, vaguepost, tell you to kill yourself, then make it about her.
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>>746603673
Kino prologue ending. But even the stuff before made me surprisingly feel really bad for Roxas when I replayed it recently.
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>>746603860
It introduces Diz
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>>746603673
I never cared about this little gaywad.
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>>746603860
Play GBA CoM, it's a million times more fun than PS2 CoM because the combat is designed for a side-on beat em up perspective.
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>>746610184
>I wish death wasn't meaningless in this series
The only reason people think this is because you're retarded and don't understand what KH considers death. Getting turned into a Heartless is not and has never been dying.
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>>746617127
then why the hell am I ever supposed to feel sad when it happens to a character?
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Kingdom Hearts storylines went to shit when Nomura decided to repeat the beats from FF8 with all the time travel bullshit, and Xehanort travelling back in time to create the present he envisioned.
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>>746617127
>>746617189
KH is a deeply spiritual game where the dead can remain alive, as long as we keep them in our memories, aka our hearts, and if you wish enough everyone can still be together. It is great theme for a Disney game.
Once again, this is why because Nomura is crazy about a fucking dead actor from the 90s
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>>746604095
She's about as autistic as Kairi
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>>746610767
No you don't. Days is retcon fanfiction made 6 years after KH2. KH1/COM/2 are all a contained trilogy with an end if you ignore the bottle from Mickey washing up at the end.
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>>746603673
>>746603801
Kino...
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>>746616427
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>>746617127
>Getting turned into a Heartless is not and has never been dying.
Yeah, but recombining with your original self after being explicitly stated that you should never have been born in the first place is, in fact, dying.
Moreso by the "My summer vacation is...over" grandeur of the scene followed by the title drop, all set to The Other Promise. It's meant to emotionally manipulate you into believing that you witnessed the death of an innocent victim of circumstance to the story.
Then the boy's spirit comes back at the end of the game, full circle, full of resentment and tests you. Finally accepting his death so that he may be reborn in you.

A little over a decade later and that dead boy is playing Frisbee on the beach with Donald Duck.

The other anons are right when they complain about this. Death in this series has no weight and emotional gravitas because whoever dies can just be brought right back with vague replicas and heart magic, or outright time travel.
Kingdom Hearts 2 and Chain of Memories had a lot of death. That death got retroactively muddied by Kingdom Hearts 3, retroactively robbing the prior titles of emotional moments.

But all you can do is call everyone else retarded while you dickride objectively bad sotrytelling, bending over backwards to call very obvious death something different.
Grow a fucking spine and call the kettle black. Erasing the impact of loss was a deathblow to this franchise for a ton of people.

tl;dr: fuck you specifically
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>>746610350
She began my lifetime love for sundresses.
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The only way to die in KH is by a knife, knife, not magical knife.
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>>746615591
Sora connected with Ventus' heart and healed him so Vanitas gained a face
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Roxas a cute. Wish we got to play as him more.
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Wait, is Xion a Nobody related to Sora or Kairi?
If i find Xion hot, am i gay?
Is Roxas gay for being into Xion? Is that even gay, or just masturbation?
Wait, wait, is Roxas maybe Ventus' Nobody, and not Soras' Nobody?
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>>746619453
>Wait, is Xion a Nobody related to Sora or Kairi?
Technically Kairi software running on Sora hardware.
>If i find Xion hot, am i gay?
No_
>Is Roxas gay for being into Xion? Is that even gay, or just masturbation?
Clonecest (except not really).
>Wait, wait, is Roxas maybe Ventus' Nobody, and not Soras' Nobody?
That's not how any of this works and you know it.
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>>746618723
>Yeah, but recombining with your original self after being explicitly stated that you should never have been born in the first place is, in fact, dying.
Literally yhe entire plotline of KH2 was driving it home that Nobodies have hearts. Axel fucking spells it out right before he and Roxas fade away and Sora questions it the whole goddamn game, and the plot of the FIRST FUCKING GAME was that someone can have their heart trapped inside someone else.
Learn to pay attention.
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>>746613047
This doesn't add up, how do you create such a gigantic universe of autistic nonsense mixing final fantasy characters with Disney characters with a plot line more schizophrenic than any trannys fanfic, all just in the name of a good looking heroin addict? Theres gotta be more than that fueling this absolute bullshit train
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Whenever I'm looking at someone's gameplay video they shared and notice the HP bar showing they aren't playing 2 on Crit Mode I can't help but feel absolute disgust towards them.
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>>746619845
I've been playing 2 for my first time on critical recently because people told me that was the way to do it
It's pretty fun, but I get the feeling there will be no way I can manage to beat the superbosses like this
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>>746603860
CoM is fun.

The GBA version is better at least for Sora because the smaller screen makes it easier to clear things out
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>>746618723
Thiis guy would see someone get into a horrific car accident and say that they shouldn't make any attempt to go to physical therapy because the tragedy of them breaking their femurs in half is too important and being able to walk again would undercut how sad the accident was.
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>>746620030
I believe in you, anon
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>>746619845
Proud is sufficient for a normal playthrough.
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>>746619813
I know it’s strange, which is why I find it so fascinating, why would a middle-aged Japanese developer care so much about a late American actor most people have never even heard of? But it’s all true. Nomura has even gone so far as to name all the movies he’s referenced over the years, like the friendship themes in FF13 and FF15 inspired by Phoenix’s *Stand By Me*, the ballroom dance scenes in FF8, FF13, and FF7R that pay homage to DiCaprio’s *Romeo + Juliet*, and the dual friendship journeys dealing with false memories in Phoenix’s *My Own Private Idaho*, among others.

The most iconic moments from the FF and KH games under Nomura were, most often than not, taken from movies lead by Phoenix or DiCaprio.
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>>746619453
>Wait, is Xion a Nobody related to Sora or Kairi?
She's a replica infused with the memories of Sora, mostly one's of Kairi at her inception
>If i find Xion hot, am i gay?
You are a man of taste, but also a dollfucker
>Is Roxas gay for being into Xion? Is that even gay, or just masturbation?
depends on what he sees under the robe
>Wait, wait, is Roxas maybe Ventus' Nobody, and not Soras' Nobody?
He's Sora's Nobody. Nobodies require a body to be born, and Ventus's was still around at the time, although vacant. Now I'm wondering whether Naminé could also be considered Sora's nobody, just with DNA from Kairi's heart instead of Ventus's
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>>746620189
This man is either an extremely sad homosexual or an absolute headcase
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>>746620289
>>746620189
holy samefag
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>>746615159
NTA But, not gonna lie, this is an interesting point. Like how would you go about talking to your kid, who wouldn't even remember you cause she lost her memories of you and her past. Not only that but he also has to deal with killing Xion another girl who, depending on the person looking at her, can also be an exact copy physical of Kairi 1 for 1. Like how Riku in the Manga looks at Xion. Plus he has to deal with the Nobody of said kid everyday for a whole year. And if they were to have a conversation about each other it would probably be really awkward. Like how would all of you deal with a teenager who doesn't even remember you but is your daughter. Most people would probably just leave her alone and let her live her life without you as she always has been for the past decade.

>>746618259
Riku is the autistic of the Destiny trio.

>>746619453
I don't even know where to begin with this.
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>>746620189
The creation of Gunblade is all because of this shit in R+J.
Since the movie is a recreation of Romeo and Juliet in modern times, they turned what would be swords into guns that are metaphorically swords, with keychains and everything.
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>>746620460
>>746620189
>>746613047
>>746612032
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>>746620334
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>>746620536
Go look up Nomura's interviews.
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>>746603765
It's like 40 minutes if you're not retarded.
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>>746613047
>>746620189
>>746620460
Nomura, like any artist, uses a lot of inspirations, and this is definitely not the biggest one (which is probably Gackt, who he was so obsessed with that he literally put him in a game in live action)
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>>746619845
I play on "normal", or whatever it's called in this game, because I want to have fun.
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>>746616228
Kairi in KH1
Roxas in KH2
Xion in Days (thus retconned into KH2)
Ventus in BBS (thus retconned into literally every other game and also Roxas by extension)
Nobody in Re:Coded (Data Sora gets fucking deleted)
Riku and Ansem the Wise in DDD, temporarily
Nobody new in KH3 I believe, though he does essentially touch tips with Ephemer
That makes for a total of 6 different people who have traipsed through his heart. He's a bit of a whore, if you're being honest.
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>>746620827
The Disney princesses, as well.
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>>746619845
This tbhqhhfam
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>>746613232
KH1 unironically does feel like a Souls game. Like if you forced everyone to play on Proud level 1 but could still somehow gain abilities you'd definitely have more people calling it a Souls gamr
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I'm ready for his superboss fight.
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>>746621020
Please, don't. Nojima is already trying to create his own multiverse based on this game and the Dissidia games.
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Nomura also watched The Dark City and made Kingdom Hearts around the visuals of it.

Like genuinely TWTNW and the City look eerily similar when viewed from space
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>>746612032
>>746613047
>>746620189
>>746620460
Genuinely the most interesting thing I've found out about Nomura and his inspirations
Im surprised I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else before
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>>746620057
>fiction and reality must be treated the same
Thinking about story is better if a character dies tragically that doesn't mean I think life is better when people die tragically. (nta btw)
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>>746620189
>>746620460
I feel that the Romeo + Juliet stuff is more because he is a fan of the director of that film. He also said that the Golden Sauce dueto in FF7 Rebirth was based on Moulin Rouge, also from the same director.
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>>746620638
>it's like 40 minutes if you rush through it and skip cutscenes
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>>746621271
about = a
idk what happened there
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>>746621326
lol it was my fucking autocorrect I can't believe it actually changed a into about wtf
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>>746621073
>Nojima.
Are we really gonna pretend that he isn't doing this under Nomura's orders. I mean Dissidia and the original concept of SoP was Nomura's idea.

>>746621020
I feel like there's a higher chance of him being a Superboss in like a Kairi Ninja Gaiden game or KH Dynasty warriors.
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>>746620578
Got a link to some of those interviews in which he mentions that guy? I'm asking this in earnest.
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>>746621073
Dissidia was always a multiverse game, wasn't it?
And Garland, as we know him today, is almost entirely a Dissidia original akin to Warrior of Light or Onion Knight. I don't think it's that much of a stretch.
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>>746611449
>>746613232
I didn't even consider Stranger of Paradise basically is KH storytelling with Dark Souls (nioh) combat. What a delightful game.
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>>746621442
Could only find this one, on a quick search. I think the rest can be found by search references for the movie themselves.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2000/09/22/the-bouncer-team-talks-about-its-mysterious-game
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>>746621073
>trying
The multiverse has been well established for quite some time now bruv.
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>>746621936
I was right, here’s more from Nomura discussing the movies themselves.

https://www.inverse.com/gaming/final-fantasy-romeo-juliet-baz-lurhmann
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>>746621804
>What a delightful game.
It really is anon... it really is.
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>>746619845
This but not disgust, just pity. There's almost no other action game out there that's as great as Kh2 on critical mode and I can't help but feel like they're missing out on an extremely balanced and fun experience for a pretty basic button-mashy experience (that's still pretty fun too but nowhere near as engaging).
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>>746603801
-Make tragic character
-He's just an aspect of another characters personality who needs to return
-Have him finally accept his fate and be at peace by the end of the game.

-In KH3 have the "completed" main character be a cringe faggot and not display any aspects of that personality.
-Undo literally all of the merit in your writing and ruin the point of the character to appease a bunch of retarded fangirls on deviant art.

I hate Nomura so much.
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>>746603765
As a kid I'd start new games of KH2 just to play through the Roxas section again cause I thought he was cool
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>>746621291
The biggest reason Nomura feels there’s no need to include FF characters anymore is that, when you boil it down, Kingdom Hearts is essentially him reimagining FF7, FF8, and FFX. The same character archetypes, plot beats, themes, and motifs are all there. For example, consider the idea of Ultimecia as a superboss, what role would she serve when Maleficent is basically her counterpart in KH? She’s the evil witch traveling through time, corrupting young boys, thinking she’s in control when, in reality, she may just be a pawn of a darker force.

Or Riku, who's pretty much a cross-over between Seifer and Cloud.
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>>746620189
>why would a middle-aged Japanese developer care so much about a late American actor most people have never even heard of
La creatividad...
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I love how often WAYPOINT was brought up as a crucial detail in the spin-off games, clearly because Nomura really, really wanted to dive deep into the intricacies of his time travel plot.
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Oh, and apparently, shirtless Mickey is a key plot point detail.
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>>746623161
>Noo I can't just have a shirtless micky accompany aqua in the realm of darkness to keep the canon
>He needs to have the new costume I designed for him for the whole thing. it's super important.
>I know, right before that KH1 cutscene, I'll have a heartless hit him and then his shirt will magically disappear (the same thing wont happen to Aqua when she's hit tho)
>flawless execution, flawless continuity. I'm a fucking genius.
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>>746611395
That smug look right before he does it. Still my favorite KH moment.
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Started playing DDD. It... gets better, right?



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