ITT : GIGAKINO misunderstood gems that /v/irmins desperately shat on it
>>746614176It's better than the original but that doesn't mean the original isn't still worth playing.
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>>746614176Great game, better than 2008.Sucks that its entire budget relied on fans, and the fans sunk it. We would have had DS2 Remake by now. It's just as long, immersive and fun as RE4Remake, if not more immersive.
>>746614176>tfw no Dead Space 2 remakefucking shame, recently replayed through 2 and one thing i miss from DS Remake was the flesh peeling system, its actually pretty unsatisfying now your normal hits basically do no visible damage to the necromorphs.
Seems solid but I tried playing it and it still has the day 1 "opening every door microstutters" issue so I flushed it.
>>746614176I loved the original Deadspace.
>>746614236The story/characterization as well as the VA direction is way worse than the original in my opinion. Hammond is a lot worse and I felt that they gave Issac more agency (which I like) but it came at the cost of Hammond. I did find the animations of the necropmorphs a little rough compared to the origunal. Outside of ruining the pulse rifle and Z ball, the gameplay changes are pretty good.Overall I was happy with the game.>>746615583Dead Space 2 doesn't need a remake and I have a good feeling that if they did end up making a remake it wouldn't be as good.
>>746615583I really liked the Dead Space remake but even that was stretching the need for a remake considering how well DS1 holds up. DS2 just does not need to be remade, it's as close to a perfect game as something can get to me at least and the graphics(the one thing remakes justify themselves with) are still pretty good. With the exception of some proper boss fights akin to DS1, I can't think of a single thing they could add in a remake to make it better, especially considering almost all the improvements in the DS1 remake were just things they took from 2.
>>746616059I know DS2 doesn't need to get remade. But we want to see it remade with better visuals, sound effects, and more overarching sidequests.
I need to see dead space remake with DLSS5
DSR was a monkey's paw remake.We gotBetter graphics in a general sense, higher res textures, more detailed environments, better handling of high fps, etcWay less clumsy zero gThe ability to use kinesis for impaling enemiesIsaac talking and having more autonomy instead of just getting ordered around the whole time, which was alrightWe also gotWay overdone graphics like every other room had some ridiculous fog or god rays or some shitHorrific ugly greenish blue tint on everythingTypical modern California writing, turning that one other engineer into a bisexual or some shit, making Kendra gay, etcExtremely shitty facial animations on the video chat segments, it's crazy how good the facial animations in the original were, makes the remake look like trashSignificantly worse voice acting, especially on the two other protagonists you hear the most from (Kendra and Hammond).Stiff animation on the necros and extremely ugly models that missed the point of the originals, also their sound effects are comicalThe original DS had some stuff that you could make a case that it could get an update (the zero g in particular was awful), but for DS2 it's almost certainly going to end up a much worse product.
>>746616049The VA direction was a mixed bag for me with some major ups and down, here's how I would break it down personally>BetterIsaac: obviouslyDaniels: they play up her sympathetic/manipulative side a lot more which works well but I do miss how hammily evil she is at the end of the original>SidegradeNicole: she's given a lot more to work with which is great but her interactions with Isaac lean too heavily towards unsettling and make it obvious something is wrong with her.Mercer: They play up the mad scientist side of him which works but the controlled attitude makes them undersell the religious nut side, and his best line gets cut because of that. "Witness the conviction, OF A TRUE BELIEVER!" Though how stasis kill was pretty cool as a substitute.>DowngradeHammond: I don't need to explain this oneKyne: Actually done worse than Hammond. Lost all his presence and gravitas. Doesn't have that simmering madness the original had, doesn't have much presence or sense of potential danger at all. Way too passive and meek. He feels like the boyfriend from the no pickles meme.
>>746616949Oh fuck I also for about the FUCKING STUTTERING. I can't replay it just because of that it drives me insane. They still haven't fixed it and probably never will.
>>746614176>tfw we will never see gyo Tokyo fish attack tier gruesome necromorphsWhy even live?
I played the original, should I tell my friend to play it too or the remake?
>>746614176Nobody likes your tranny demake, faggot.
>>746615764That’s a good thing. It’s already perfect. The peeling system was complete garbage, and resulted in them ruining all the designs of of the Slashers so they’d all be bald men.
>>746616970It doesn’t work at all because she murders an innocent woman in front of Isaac. They made her less sympathetic, and then made Isaac try to save her. That’s beyond retarded.
You can tell the remake devs spent a whole lot of effort (and money) on implementing shit nobody cared about. Like how clicking start seamlessly loads your save. It's cool for like 10 seconds. Was it worth the millions of dollars, thought?
>>746615583>>746615764Dead Space 2 does not need a remake, it still looks good even in 2026.
>>746617252Avoid the remake like the plague. It’s a massive downgrade that misses the point of the original by a mile.
>>746617453I’m so glad they cared more about trans bathrooms and diversity quotas than making sure the suits looked good and accurate to the original, or just adding the DLC suits.
>>746617345Its not garbage though and i liked the necromoprhs changes, well at least that part where their outfits or clothes reflect on where they are, like necromoprhs in the medical wing are all wearing doctor outfits or medical scrubs and necromorhps in the mining section all have enginner suits like Isaac.>>746617504I'm not denying that, Dead Space 2 does look really good, but i'm not talking about any graphics overhaul, i just would have liked the new mechanics the Remake introduced into DS2 like the backtrackable levels or the sidequests and as i mentioned the flesh peeling system.
I just played it recently and yeah it’s great. I wish we got the dead space 2 remake it’s a shame this game got spammed to death by reactionary retards
>>746616970Mercer is an objectively worse character, and they ruined his death.
>>746617276>Nobody likes your tranny demake, faggot.Go back to Brazil Facebook
>>746616949They made Jacob’s girlfriend a mega slut who fucked half the ship for the sake of female empowerment. They also added gay drama between Isaac and Nicole that didn’t exist in the original because Isaac’s dad died when he was a kid, and he cut all contact with his mom for stealing his college funds to donate to the Rockfags.
Why did they make Hammond obsessed with his dead Asian boyfriend? It's the only thing he does the entire game.
I played the remake a few months ago and it was a solid 8.5/10 for me. I'm a tough critic too.
>>746618046well because he's chimps
>>746618046Since Isaac can actually talk now and is the now suggesting what they should with the ship fixes and all of that, Hammond basically has nothing to do since that was his role in the original.
Excited for their Iron Man game
>>746618046The point of his character is that he’s a military guy trying to do everything by the book in a situation that’s way over his head, which ultimately gets him killed. He was easily fooled by the hallucinations because of his no man left behind mentality
>>746617689They look like shit, retard. Every Slasher has the exact same body type instead of being varied like in the original trilogy, since it would fuck with the peeling system otherwise, and they’re all bald and grey with different heads and clothes now while they make comically bad angry faces. It looks like garbage. It completely misses the fact that they’re supposed to be made from FRESH bodies, not rotting ones. Even the Lurkers suffer from the stupid peeling system, since they have them adult skulls instead of baby skulls that would look 10 times scarier. This game is nothing but a passionless corporate product, and it’s insane you’re defending it.
>>746618303Wasnt this canceled, leaked footage of this game came out yesterday coincidentally
>>746618332That’s gay, and worse than the original.
>>746615583They added Denuvo malware which reduced performance, and chose to attack every gamer upon the face of the earth with their extreme money addiction malware. It flopped. I never get tired of seeing large corporations sabotage their work with Denuvo malware in the name of extreme money addiction and the altered thinking which comes of it.Stop punishing the people who give you money.
>>746618364 (Me)Fucking look at this shit. It’s literally the exact same body model with no variation. It’s beyond lazy when they have EA money, and they’re trying to compete with Capcom and their Resident Evil Remakes, and they’re still trying to cut corners.
All of them.
>>746618412Avalanche was the team that got their Iron Man game canned. Motive is still working on their own.
I really like all of the characters they added in to explain the story to me in extreme detail. like most anons i'm completely retarded and prefer this version that has a total of like 25 minutes of extra exposition explaining shit to me.
>>746618523EA can't compete with Capcom because Capcom devs actaully understand game design. Resident Evil has really good pacing and level design, much better than any other horror franchise. The DS remake actually has worse pacing than the original, since they didn't understand the purpose of safe rooms. The remake replicated all the problems of the original (sometimes doubling down on them) instead of fixing them. No shit it didn't sell.
>>746614176Did it fix the shit turret section where you destroy the asteroids? If so, then it is better.
>>746618796You now do it in-person outside in a zero-G section. Whether or not it's better is subjective.
>>746618364>>746618523they're not that bad to me honestly and i'm more of a gameplay mechanics type of guy instead of an aethestics one so i much prefer Remake rendition, would it have nice if we have the OG look with the peeling mechanic of remake? Sure but i'm not one that hate on the entire thing just because of this one aesthetic change.
>>746618796Yes but it makes less sense in universe because the controls for the asteroid defense system OUTSIDE of the ship.
>>746617252I love this cumflating bitch like you wouldn’t believe.
The game just straight up looks worse than the original in some cases.
My problem with the peeling system is that in order for that system to work the necros need to be in a relatively pristine state in order for the player to fuck them up themselves.This means by design there aren't gonna be any necros where it's clear either their death or the transformation was so incredibly violent it mutilated their body.It's an odd case where the improved gore makes the game less gory overall since the necromorphs themselves aren't visually as violently ruined.On a more design focused side, and personal opinion, I also think the lack of dead eye'd necromorphs hurt. Pretty sure there's only one slasher varient across the entire roster in the old games that has a visually angry expression, meanwhile in the remake necromorphs are far more emotive. Send blogpost.
>>746618879The Necromorphs are built off of aesthetics, and are made specifically to look as fucked up and disturbing as possible. They’re all inspired by actual car crash victims, and Visceral’s artists and models studied them extensively for the purpose of making them as realistic as possible. I can tell just by looking at them that Motive didn’t do this, nor did they even try to replicate the original designs, since they outsourced all the models and animations to other companies. If you don’t care about the designs and aesthetics of Dead Space, you’re not a fan.
>>746619057Don’t forget that they actually have a censorship option for pussies and streamers.
>>746618412This >>746618576. Motive's Iron Man game is still happening, and looks actually promising. Don't know what the status is of the Blade game. That Cap/Panther WWII game is still technically happening
>>746618364The best one is the one with nearly all his skin peeled off.
I think my main problem with it was that there were too many jumpscares too often. It just meant that so many of them werent actually scary, because you would always expect them. There needed to be more downtime, more sections where the enemies would appear in expected areas directly in view. Every time I walked into an “empty” room I knew it wasn’t empty and knew something would jump out. There needed to be a lot more actual empty rooms so that the jumpscares would actually catch you off guardI think the silent hill 2 did a good job of this for the most part. The bit where pyramid head is right outside that door got me really good, and early on some of those manakins that stayed completely still were good. But then they overused them
>>746614176FUCK YOU, AND FUCK YOUR WOKE REMAKE!
>>746619486They kneecapped themselves by adding a Director AI for some god forsaken reason. It’s supposed to keep players on their toes, but it just ruins the tension and atmosphere of the game because it spawned like two Enhanced Slashers at the same time because you stayed in one location for too long.
>>746619486Anon, Dead Space literally has nothing but jumpscares. 99% of enemies pop in from monster closets. This flaw was always there.
>>746619223The thing is you make it seem like the changes are the worst things ever conceived when they're general still look great and works well enough for the game, are the looks of the original superior? Of course but its not such a big downgrade that it becomes unplayable. And if you're talking about the repeat looks of the necromoprhs in the remake looking all samey, i'd say Original also has that issue, you start seeing the same necro models over and over again very fast and i'd argue the Remake has more variety because of environmental clothes variety the remake put in.
>>746619647Yea I should’ve clarified I didn’t just mean the remake
>>746619672They don’t look great at all. They look worse than a 360 game, and you’re praising it like a moron.
>>746619684Thing is I'm pretty sure the devs were aware of the problem. I remember an interview stating they realized keeping 100% tension all the time led to player exhaustion. Yet they kept doing it anyway...
>>746617920I thought that was Temple made to be gay
Dead Space 1 and 2 are like Alien: perfect dual story that should have ended right there. You have the panic state protagonist who barely survives the first encounter, then the sequel where they take their power back and overcome their fears
>>746620085And the 3rd one that’s bad.
>>746619716If your only argument is to just simply say "it looks bad" and insulting me with names, then i can't help you, plus it just makes me think you're just hating on it for the sake of hating.
>>746619914Horror is all about sharp, sudden contrasts. RE7 isnt perfect, but it absolutely understood this. You need the downtime moments of doing puzzles, backtracking, or scavenging supplies. That way when one of the family members jumps out at you, it’s genuinely frightening. You then heighten that tension by having them chase you, until it reaches a crescendo
Man there must have been something in the water over at EA during that time period because ME3, DA2 and DS3 all have the same problem where individual bits in a vacuum are really good but the second you take a step back, and not even that big of one, you're just left wondering what the fuck is going on?Like the ship graveyard is cool as fuck, then the love triangle plot rears it's head and what the fuck where they thinking? The initial crash on the snow planet and making your way through the blizzard where the howls of the necromprohs mingle with the roaring wind then you reach a optional stealth section and what the fuck were they thinking?
>>746620351Your only argument is that it look good. Quit projecting.
>>746620512No i didn't, i already said the original can look superior. Also projecting about what?
How does a necromorph move if all its skin is blown off? Should they be called boneomorphs instead?
>>746620602I’m not arguing with you anymore, shill. This game was bad, and that’s why the sequel got canned.
>>746621250i accept your concession then, and thanks for proving my point.
>>746616187here niggahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR3YgpfWTNs
>>746614236>It's better than the original but that doesn't mean the original isn't still worth playing.How so?
>>746614176would have given it an honest attempt but it stutters out the dick
>>746618523Sorry anon, but they spent that budget on adding a gorillion greebles to every room
>>746621070Muscles are attached to bone, not skin.
Reminder, Isaac is literally a cuck.
>>746616187>>746622274i kinda like that it makes him look actually older since Isaac is supposed to be in his 40s, that was my issue with Remake Isaac looking way too young.
Owwww.
Why the hell didn't they just remaster the games and put them in a collection? The series wasn't good enough for EA anyways. At least this would have been a collection of 3 games that could have convinced people to finally try the games out. I know I would have bought a remaster collection.
I don't feel like having to make a thread for this. How is cronos the new dawn?
>>746617504if you played it at all recently youd know the physics are fucked up
>>746622274actually not terrible surprisingly
