What went wrong?
>lol let's copy overwatch lmao That's what went wrong, but TF2 uncs, AKA 30+ year olds, will never admit to this
"ACKcoded post, op."shut up fag
All things must die. Let it go.
>nearly 20 years old still with an active playerbaseACKcoded post, op.
>muh hats muh casino gameplayloo-ACK
Anybody not saying Jungle Inferno is a faggot and a cuckImagine bending the knee to compfags
>>746622810Anyone not saying F2P is a newfag and part of the cancer
>>746622326The matchmaker is fucking horrible and on its best days barely fucking works.Also fuck valve for being too lazy to make the adult swim show happen.
>>746622983That is the second worst thing
Team Fortress 3 with Source 2 Engine when?
>>746623543unlikely, the movement mechanics are one of the biggest things keeping tf2 afloat.they fuck that up with the engine port and it'd do what the years of bots couldnt.
>>746622983F2P is the only reason this fucking game even survived long enough to make it to the matchmaking update's knife to the heart.
>>746622326>endless milking with crates/tickets/paints/retarded kill counters etc...>matchmaking ruined to cater to comp fags>balance sanitized to cater to compfags>did nothing when servers were infested with "Pinyon" scam shit>took ages to do something about lmaobox snipers>has about 3 devs working on it >antagonized playerbase during map contests (now they just shovel anything inside)>constant HEY PAULING HERE BUY THIS BATTLEPASS WITH ARBITRARY OBJECTIVES, I WILL REMIND YOU ERVERY 10 MINUTES TO DO OT FAGGOT
>>746622326Meet your Match, no other update has done nearly as much damage to it as it since said update fundementally fucked up how most player join games to begin with
>>746622435>TF2 uncs, AKA 30+ year olds, will never admit to thisExcept we doMatchmaking ruined the game because valve drank the game journo kool aid and actually believed they had to compete with overwatch. Comp matchmaking was dead on arrival and quickplay was shit, but that doesnt mean that quickplay 2: requeue boogaloo is magically better.
>>7466223262014 through 2016 is the shift in tone for the game in its entirety whether people like it or not and it's showcased heavily by each update slowly opening up what's allowable or what'll happen to the game>love&war opens the taunt floodgates by allowing for multiple taunts up to 8 to be usable at all times>causes matches to be unable for a week or two due to the conga>cosmetic department completely frees up as to what is "allowable" with the fat engineer, sombrero for demoman>end of the line showcases a shift towards making the game more community update orientated, until the greedy jew-like "soon to be emporiumniggers" try to take the lion's share in the invasion update>gun mettle was the writing on the wall for what the game was to become later on:>cosmetics completely disregarding what the style of the game was with the banana and cardboard cut-throat hats for allowing for more cosmetic inclusions as a result>contractor was a cs:go feature put into the game>weapon skins were a feature just copy and pasted from cs:go into tf2, except with the "unusual" feature>comp-beta, I need not say more>largest amount of weapon changes next to meet your match in a single update that overhauled many weapons>complete overall shift in feedback due to the NU-TFteam taking the game towards the cs:go area due to its successEveryone knows about meet you match, that is a failure in of itself and doesn't need any history lessons other than>you couldn't play the game whatsoever when casual released and made the game nigh unplayablebecause casual is dogshit but something more important is that jungle inferno is one of the weakest updates there was despite making pyro way more interesting>Jungle inferno had no content whatsoever and was incredibly bare bones>2/3 pyro weapons were shitty overwatch weapons in how they functioned>pyro was broken as all hells for a long time until a future balance change was donevalve is just a failure after 2013, that's it really
>>746622326They won't nerf sniper, remove random shits, add a strange Dragon's Fury, and add all the TFC weapons.
I once renamed my unusual to "uncle dance loves niggers" while he was on server and got pernamently banned
>>746627227Love and war and that halloween with bumper cars was the last bastion of old tf2. Then valve ruined tf2 with TF:GO
half of the fun weapons in the game were nerfed into oblivion like 9 years ago and haven't been touched since
>>746627846Which one hurt the most?
>>746627469I think even before 2014 the cosmetic department for halloween cosmetics were wackish but still within the tone of the game, a bit of body horror to add but post 2013 is when everything shifted and I'm beginning to understand that love&war was the biggest indicator despite still having a tf2 "feel" to it because of the weapon inclusions but it's the biggest jumping the shark moment the game has had and nobody will deny it:>bread weapons>the already mentioned cosmetics that're on a newer level of wacky>taunts, partner taunts for everyone to participate in>longest cinematic the game has ever had in its entiretybut in all honesty without love&war and the updates that followed to free up the stylization, people wouldn't have stuck around for as long as they would've because it's allowed another layer of expression even if I hate emporiumniggers with a passion.2014 halloween update was fun but utterly retarded, good for community made content in the long term.Casual continues to hinder the game's ability greatly and with the MVM update probably coming out soonish I'm expecting either the greatest failure possible from updating a side gamemode barely anyone cares about from just being a test bed for deadlock, or something of a medium success of a product they're pushing by making it a by yearly thing where they add more "community" tours and if not then they're retarded because that's easy money for the MVM-tards; I haven't mentioned them banning the incredibly bad actors for MVM just before what I would say is the push to get the update out, it's evident they want this to go without any issues and I hope that it does, I want this to fail because that'll tell them that they have to address the elephant in the room and not trying to MONETIZE THE GAME more.I just hope the higher ups fail in whatever they have in mind for TF2, I really do.
>>746622326the game has some jank aspects they'll never fix
>>746622326Stopped playing with meet your match, miss me with that matchmaking nonsense.
>>746627289>They won't nerf sniperJust revert everyone elses nerfs>remove random shitsYou will learn to be wary of joesegonzales2005 and his 4% chance to instarape your pocket medic or you will perish>add a strange Dragon's FuryUnderstandable>add all the TFC weaponsQuake grenade launcher for demo would be nice, detpacks would require maps to be reworked to allow for destructable flank routes, concjumping scouts would be whatever, and melee medic would suddenly be dope
>>746627894for me personally it was the sandman
Furries, trannies, nazis and magatards runed this game
>>746622326I still play it since despite all the problems it's the best online FPS out there but holy fuck is the playerbase dogshit now. It's just full of 20 year olds who trooned out during Covid that will kick you for saying no no words or a bunch of 40 year olds who have done nothing but played TF2 non stop for the past 20 years and play like their lives depend on it.
>>746628374They all OWN you btw
>>746628712No
>>746627894Axtinguisher and sandman.GRU is heavily cucked but the removal of damage penalty and mark for death means you can still punch people on a pinch.
Still the best online multiplayer game out there. What's the competition?>OverwatchWaifushit with no gameplay. People only care about the porn.>SplatoonExact same problem as Overwatch. NO gameplay, fans are obnoxious and only care about spamming porn.
>>746622326No working ranking or competition to give people a reason to play
>>746622326No new updates since 2017
>furries>trannies>fags>turbo autistis>psychopaths>cheatersThis is 90% of the playerbase, i'm not even kidding.I still reinstall the game once a year, play it for a few weeks then uninstall, there is so much i can stomach these days.t. Played it since the 2007 beta, played competitive 6v6 when it was good, played turbo casual shit like MARIO_KART, surf, baloon race, done it all in the game.LET GO, SHITS DEAD.
>YouTumor's discord kittens crying about TF2 thread pre-empting when the halloween update drops and they need to cope about how the game is dead
Niggers, OP.Niggers.
>>746625791>>constant HEY PAULING HERE BUY THIS BATTLEPASS WITH ARBITRARY OBJECTIVES, I WILL REMIND YOU ERVERY 10 MINUTES TO DO OT FAGGOTNever happened to me what the fuck are you talking about?
>>746627469The carnival of whatever was awful tho
>>746627227This.Anyone remember that map that took place on the moon with the robots? I played that shit religiously, then they just fucking removed it. It was all downhill from there.
>>746633876that's what happened when I reinstalled TF2, it was obnoxious
TF2 current players: 46 449Marathon current players: 1 062
>>746622326Goldrush update with unlocks and later hats and all that garbage. The game was a perfect little machine and a piece of art not just aesthetically, and this is from someone who fucking hates Valve slop. For custom content you could just have servers mod their own shit in, but Valve couldn't leave well enough alone and had to turn TF2 into a petri dish abomination for their microtransaction experiments and a staging ground for indoctrinating players into accepting paid mods and sellout modders.
20 years later and Heavy still doesn't have one original primary. Do you want to play>stock>stock but better (Tomislav)>stock but slower (Brass Beast)>stock but slower and the enemy Scout calls you racial slurs (Natascha) >stock but you need to fire at someone at close range (where you already kill everything in a second) (Huo-Long Heater)It's so boring. The Huo-Long Heater especially is such a missed opportunity, it should shoot fire instead of bullets, make it a mid range weapon that's like the Dragon Furry but firing way faster, you could give it some special overheat mechanic to balance it out idk. Sad to know they'll never bother making him more interesting with a Heavy update
>>746634124Yeah well if that ever happened it doesn't anymore, you are right about the rest tho
>>746622326furries trannies fags and bots
>>746634345>indoctrinating players into accepting paid mods and sellout modders.TF2's entire history past F2P is marked by it being totally optional for you to engage with paid features at all.You get a hat and two accessories to fill out your misc slot that can be trivially reskinned to any other item in the game on your own serverAll paid MvM missions are playable for freeEvery functionally different weapon can be obtained for free even if it took them fucking forever to add the JI items to the crafting rosterReally the only argument that could be made is having to use a pre-loader for Valve servers because they're sv_pure 1 by default.Even then nothing is stopping from playing with your friends with skins and mods enabled, other than modding dying to factors extrinsic to TF2.
How is the playerbase dead? You can find a game in 2 seconds nigga
>>746634989Well you see in imaginary retard land, it takes 4 centuries to get into a game, and when you do actually none of those are real people because I don't have friends and nobody likes me and nobody plays on my server so every other server has to be faking it, I'm not getting bodied by a furry server from 2008
>>746632809oh wow another community update with meh content at best, that does nothing to actually fix the various issues people have with the games current state
>>746635532>The Various Issues:>I'm an annoying faggot that nobody likes and I lost at the game fix it >:(
>>746628057Do you play any multiplayer games nowadays?
>>746622326>Matchmaking doesn't even work. 80% of the time you either get unbalanced stomps, half empty servers that never fill, or you get a match that's ended before you can even select a class>Random crits>Sniper>Blatant cheaters that nobody kicks #saveTF2 btwThere's probably more but that's just off the top of my head. This game is dog shit.
>>746622326it's 19 years old
>>746635792>false>lmao>lmao>falseNigger you never played the game, go back to Overwatch
>>746635631>if I just ignore how even with multiple maps selected it can still easily take over a minute to find a game>or how a good portion of those games you get are almost already over or just over the moment you join>or how a portion of game starting quickly turn into one sided rofl stomps>or how the moment people leave because fuck dealing with that rofl stomp auto balance tends to fuck up due to said matchmaking system fucking up leading to unbalanced teams making more people leave>or how the severs forces you to load in the same map you are playing on making you wait more>or how all the above makes it more convient for people to just abandon a lobby to go back to the matchmaking screen to gamble for a different match>or how all that (including for some reason adding round restrictions) has made certain maps and gamemode far far less played on (completely making the one nice feature of map selction pointless)>or how multiple weapons are still nerfed into the ground because some random sweats wanted them nerfed>then everything is totally fine and dandy or some shit
>>746622326Literally nothing wrong with it, you're just gay.
>>746635631back to your hugbox emporiumnigger
>>746635954Yes this wall of non-issues you posted is a non-issueI'm on my way to gorge and to have a fun game.
>>746635954>>746635792>I hate the game because there's no waifus to jerk off toBack to Overwatch with you, slime.
>>746635865I have 6k hours bordering 7k. Stick to licking walls with the rest of the pyrovision retards.
>>746636257No, you don't. You're just hating the game because it's not a console exclusive, or some stupid waifu gacha. You complained about the game not having enough anime titties, that's enough reason to discard your post.
>>746634989now try queueing for a map that isn't 2fort, upward, or badwaterif you want to play something like pipeline you'll be potentially waiting literal hours to get a game
>>746636405>says man who has never touched TF2 in his life
>>746636405>Think the game isn't dead?>Check out what happens when I join <Popular Youtuber's> specifically event_turbine server in the middle of june>Checkmate Valve needs to pay my favorite youtuber and mandate me some friends
>>746636405dustbowl always up and instant on my machine
>>746635954For every 1 bad game like that, I have 3 good ones.Keep pubstacking and crying about your roflstomps Zesty you mentally ill faggot.
>>746622326>appeal to tubers/compfags when the tf2 comp scene had next to no chance of ever reaching the heights of CS/Dota majors >F2P fourth-worlders and oldfags who still desperately wait for STAR_ and Jerma to make TF2 vids again are the only people who still play. >a decidedly "for the boys" game has been enshittified by faggots, trannies and white knight male feminists 3k hours, most of which earned between 2012 and 2017. TF2 is DEAD and that's okay!
>>746622326being mid even paladins is better which is somehow even more dead
>>746636405The game has like 150 different maps. Of course some are not gonna be played often even with a large playerbase
>>746622326Thanks god, I stopped playing TF2 around 2013 so all my memories of this game are happy memories.
>>746622326You didnt move on
>>746622326It was and still is MYM. I remember on day one how it took dozens of minutes just to find casual matches on that piece of shit update. Notice how right after this, community servers died and people started leaving matches immediately after the map was over.
>>746636758How come a mid game like tf2 has kept a playerbase for decades, while future game of the year Marathon leaks players every day?
Hey guys I'm a totally real TF2 player and um I've been playing since 2004Valve needs to update the game to back what it was like in 2004 and replace all the buttons on the main menu with a button that forces everyone to join my youtuber TF2 server and brainwashes the person to never ever EVER make fun of meAnyway after you call me a fag, I'm going to cry about your post and pretend to be a new person entering the thread.Please do not at all ever think about how if there were this many people that had this problem it would self correct with user servers and the fact that I am complaining that nobody is playing on my server, if you do that you're fucking schmooperpee27 who joined my discord kitten grooming session and called me a fag with no real friends
>>746622435Everyone knows Valve catering to comptrannies ruined TF2 tho.
Fyi everyone who is shitting on tf2 right now is coming from the nearby rosalina thread. For some reason they hate tf2.
>Shitty half-baked updates 2013 through 2017>Abandon proper update cycle entirely following this pointMvM was the last truly cool update, but it seems they blew their load and never quite recovered. The mode existed in some form (Raid mode) since '09 after all
>>746622983Yeah this. I stopped regularly playing about half a year after the game went F2P. Not just the playerbase but the server quality nose dived after this.
>>746622435I think even 6v6tards will agree that the base game should be balanced around casual and not competitive. 6v6 is its own unique thing with a completely different meta, just let them ban weapons they dislike and everyone can be happy
Mann v machine was the last good thing they did. Robotic boogalo was a huge pile of shit. Two cities added a bunch of australium weapons (reskins) and killstreak kits. Love and war added a fucking parachute at which point it had 100% jumped the shark.
>>746622326nigger this game is older than most of /v/
>>746637434>>746637681>>746638142Yes yes, the game is bad because it doesn't have waifus. You've already said this. Don't you have an overwatch (porn) thread to post in?
>>746638198Hurr... VALVE GOOD!!! Buy our tranny ad hardware btw
>>746638279>lazy photoshop jobCongrats?
>>746638301Kek, post-F2P tourist
>>746638198>talk about f2p niggers ruining the game>muh waifus
>>746638627Obvious smokescreen. I've seen enough of these fake comments from Overwatch fans. Your gaslighting is ineffective.
>>746638717Ah, I see. In that case - you're a nigger, kill yourself and trolling outside of /b/ is a bannable offense.
>>746622326nothing, valve is the worst developer to have to support live service games because their company culture rewards cowardice just look at how they abandoned underlords the second the devs realised they'd be evaluated for working on a game with a low player base
>love and war weapons are already bad enough >they are still nerfed it anyway What's wrong with valve
end of the line
>>746627227TDM sex
It's like 20 years old, let it die.
>>746640826Diana...
They made the game default to connect to official valve servers which basically killed community servers about when overwatch was at peak popularity, every single person I played with just moved on and never came back.
>>746636405You have never played this game before
MVM update fucking when
>>746622326>What went wrong?Nothing. Literally nothing happened. Nothing has been happening for the last 10 years.
>dozen of threads daily about how dead TF2 islmao you shitters are just mad this game won't die, after you quit for being dominated a bit too muchgo play one of those shooters that play themselves with ult skills lol
