>Most ambitious JRPG ever made>0 cultural impactWhat happened?
>Most ambitious JRPG ever madeHuh?
>>746642457source?
Nothing doesToo many games are released
>>746642457I'm playing it right now. Not only is it not ambitious it's less impressive than every single Persona and SMT game I've played. It's genuinely mid, at best, and unless some drastic improvement in the game's quality is coming I'm convinced everyone who was putting this in the GOT conversation was retarded, a paid shill, never actually played it, or some combination of all three.
>Most ambitious By absolutely what standard? It's persona with a fantasy skin.
>ambitousHow?Is pretty standard JRPG slop, just with good presentation.
>>746642457>what if we took our persona formula and put it in a different setting? While we are at it, remove romance options.Very ambitious.
>>746642457I want to give that fairy a cultural impact>>746642639It's just fine. I wasn't horribly offended by it, and I enjoyed my time with it, but I don't see myself ever going back to it.
>>746642457>>Most ambitious...What?Anyway, the story in game is not very good. Characters are not memorable. Most of dungeons fucking suck.And it is genuinely ugly. Most of the world is very grey or brown, the monsters which are not weird abstract humans are some of the most generic looking shit imaginable.
>>746642457ar tonelico 2 does the utopia story much better
>>746642457>Most ambitious JRPG ever made>Copies Persona's calender system and SMT's press turn combat and does nothing original
>>746642754what an atrocious battle UI
>>746642457>ambitiousI mean it was just fantasy persona but with some clapbait references because it was Fatlus's anniversary title.It's ok
>>746642457I genuinely couldn’t imagine a less ambitious JRPG. Even final fantasy mystic quest was more daring.
>>746642457Both statements patently untrue ofc
>>746642927Better than sterile shit like this.
>>746643657yea a clean UI is way better
>>746642754>And it is genuinely ugly.This. After playing Persona and SMT I was not ready for this level of ugly. Even SMT IV is more pleasant to look at and it's a fucking 3ds game.
>>746642457>What happened?It was woke.
>>746642457Pacing issues like every nu-Persona game, but has some interesting ideas
>>746643657thats not the battle ui thoughbeit
>>746642754>Most of dungeons fucking suck.Pretty funny how the best dungeon is literally just Etrian Odyssey in 3D
>>746643830The battle UI is the same shit though.
>>746642754Story in the game is quite good actually. It went over most people's heads and I wish I was being even remotely sarcastic.The complaints about the writing for Martira and the complaints about how Mage Academy was handled, in addition to the complaints about "not being able to heal" in the final area, it makes me wonder if Atlus fans have reading comprehension on even a grade school level.Persona 4 invited way too many illiterate rightoids into the community and the average intelligence of the Atlus fan has been a consistent problem ever since. I'm glad Wada is cutting you guys out like the cancer you are.
>>746642457>0 cultural impactthese are among the most consistently retarded threadsup there with the king: "playing a girl character means you want to be a girl" threads
Bitches don't know bout muh Tolerance
>>746642457the writing in this game is fucking retarded
>>746644145Your couldn't write better tbdesuh
>>746643813>has some interesting ideasliterally zero ideas.Everything was just a poor imitation of Persona mechanics.
>>746644145I only just finished the carnivorous baby castle dungeon yesterday but so far the writing does indeed seem to be incredibly childish and superficial. Almost like it was written by a 15 year old leftist with no concept of how the world or human nature actually function.
>>746644338wait until you get to the port city
>>746644338I think this entire section and the bit in the town after was peak retardation, like someone wanted a light hearted story and someone wanted it to be dark and they ended up meeting in the middle in the stupidest way possible
>>746644373Brilehaven? I think that's next. Conveniently the "road is blocked" so now I have to fuck around for a week before I'm allowed to leave. I literally had a debate last night where I was forced to say "taxes benefit everyone" in order to win. Ridiculous.
>>746644295this game has the most retarded "plan" to achieve something i've ever seen in any work of fictionif you have played the game, you know what i am talking about, unless you're a retard
>>746644456Yeah I don't know. So far I'm not impressed. I'm still going to finish it, because I paid for it and I don't want an easy game sitting half finished on my trophy list, but relative to Persona and SMT I am disappoint.
just saying shit
>>746644597I liked the game overall but that was the low point, full on WHAT WERE THEY THINKING moment
>>746644063>everyone but me is an idiot who couldn't understand the plot
>>746642457Has any game in the past 10 or 15 years had "cultural impact"?No, retards shilling gta6 as the next coming of christ isn't cultural impactNo, tumblr shilling tony fox games isn't cultural impactNo, remaking a game from before 2010 isn't cultural impact
>>746644812I'm enjoying it well enough but it just seems like the very definition of a 6 or 7 out of 10. Currently I am completely mystified why anyone was talking about this as GOTY. So far I haven't seen a single thing this game does that's above average and that isn't already done leagues better in half a dozen other Atlus games. Legit feels like they just phoned it in.
Reminder this game claim to be REDEFINING WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A RPG … by being Persona again …
>>746644957Witcher 3 maybe? At least that's the closest I can think of.
>>746643889I'd argue that the Cathedral's the best one, with its unique atmosphere (corpses fucking EVERYWHERE), multiple unique sections, and an optional sidequest to find the Exorcist's Cassock.Lost Shinjuku is an easy second place for me, but I find it extremely depressing that following the intended story path deletes the FOE from the entire dungeon in very short order, effectively removing all the puzzles involving it entirely when you explore the rest of the dungeon later.
>>746644982It's not being Persona again though. It's Persona-lite but with less features, systems, and that's also unpleasant to look at.
Absolute masterpiece.
>>746642457i'd been playing trails recently and as soon as I started this I tried to talk to npcs and realized they don't matter and you basically can't talk to anyone and i just stopped playing
>>746645106When compared to absolute garbage like 7R, yeah even mediocrity like Metaphor seems like a masterpiece I suppose
>>746644063>you need an IQ of 200+ to appreciate this weaboo game
>>746645162I just finished Sky SC right before picking up Metaphor and I had the same reaction.
>>746644597>I'm still going to finish it, because I paid for it and I don't want an easy game sitting half finished on my trophy listKinda sad how this sentence doesn't contain the word fun
>>746645215I'm enjoying it well enough not to drop it, I like jrpgs in general though. But you're right, unless something drastic happens, it ain't going to crack my top 50 jrpgs list.
>>746645182Yeah, if you compare Metaphor with shit it will look like a masterpiece.
>>746644957Souls series like it or not
>>746645379Nta but we're more than 15 years out from the release of Demons Souls now so not sure if that counts.
>>746642457Alright, I'll biteWhat was so ambitious about it
>>746644957FortniteOverwatchGenshin Impact
>>746645089You can always tell a quality jrpg from how much of a banger the battle theme is.This one is really not that good>Fast giberish gregorian chant>Soft beat>the refrain is midDoes really nothing well during battle.Persona has the jpop rap and other music styles that can bring great battle themes.Even old JRPGs like Lunar know that the battle theme needs energy.The story is kind of mid and done before>What if we all just looked past our differences and live and let live equality!
>>746645579Can't disagree. Again, only just finished the baby monster castle, but I couldn't remember a single track in this game if you paid me and I was literally playing it less than 14 hours ago.
>>746645579>>746645695I finished the game a week agoThere are exactly two themes in the entire game I would call "good", and neither of them are battle themes(Also one of them is ripped wholesale from a different game)
>>746645510>FortniteI am loathe to admit it but I concede, the Fortnite-ification of many other properties is decidedly an impact, even if its one I view as negative>overwatchlmao>genshita game whose biggest claim to fame, other than being a dogshit gacha game, is "zelda ripoff"lmao
>>746642457>Another Metaphor seethe thread
>>746642457I've been playing it recently, pretty good so far, especially all the worldbuilding. Doesn't grip me as much as persona did, but I'm still enjoying it.
>>746645695The whole game was sold to us as ground-breaking.But it was quite mediocre. It seemed rushed, and not in tune with what Persona fans. Who it was made for and marketed at.>No waifu's>No real social connections.I did not even give a fuck when the old faggot mentor character got killed. I barely fucking knew him, his motivations or any real reason he was around other than to give you a revenge angle on killing the final boss.The underground resistance idea could have been okay, but the game needed re writng.I think the obvious on the nose "Humans" and how human nature is dog shit. Was just really shit and played out at this point.>What if we did an equality Falls flat because in real life, people have all of history to form opinions on other races.Fantasy racism never seems to hit right. Because it seems fun for some Dwarf to call an elf a knife eared tree fucker.It never goes deeper than >race insults are bad.
>>746646252>I did not even give a fuck when the old faggot mentor character got killedYou're a subhuman. Probably a chink or jeet.
>>746646463>Probably a chink or jeetSee this is my point.A chink or a jeet have real world historical and present actions to them.You can list off the reasons to hate a jeet in the west.>Scamming>h1b visa abuse>DO NOT REEDEEM!Chink's>Commie scammers who short change you on low quality steel
>>746646225I enjoy the worldbuilding too but the way everyone behaves in the world seems so childish, unnatural, and superficial. The people in the world don't seem real or nuanced, just simplistic caricatures.
>>746642457Still waiting for the complete version with a new party member.Shan't be buying before that.
>>746646667Based quality steel appreciator. Fuck chinks.
Metaphor had 0% sex appeal. Even Genshin had some sex appeal.
>>746647173>Genshit
>>746642457Giving Hulkenberg a well-defined ass would have unironically left SOME impact, but Atlus was too cowardly to go through with it.
>>746647287Well I ain't seeing any new Metaphor fan art right now.
>>746646725I dunno, I kind of like it in a sort of pure 'fairytale/storybook' sort of way.
I don't know what is worse, the lack of the game's relevancy, or the absolute retarded posts in this thread.
>>746642457Persona game without dating older women what the fuck were they thinking
Made for asexual weirdos
Dating should be abolished in games outside dating sims, it always brings the biggest retards in anything.
>>746645317>putting the literal definition of shit next to Expedition 33: Clair Obscur.Now you’re just being an edge lord
>>746642457no waifu. globo homo award bait.
ITT:
Doesn't the three eyed girl basically confess to the MC anyway?
Oh look, the Excrement 33 are already here seething!
>>746645489Yeah, figures
This game is visually nauseating
>>746648518Obsessed.
>>746642457>Most ambitious RPG ever madeSir, this is an Atlus game.
>>746645510I hate that this anon is correct. These games had strong staying power or were the beginning of an awful trend. The only other game is Breath of the Wild reviving Nintendo or Smash Ultimate creating sky high expectations for the next one.
