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Seyda Neen, Foryn Gilnith's Shack... home...
>>746645378Oh yes, what an exciting day, I thought as I browsed /v/ for the 5,113th day; I browsed the catalogue, looking for an interesting thread to peruse, when I saw it again. In less than an hour since the archival of the previous Morrowind thread, which /v/ has come to learn are simply veiled Tamriel Rebuilt shill-threads, another Morrowind-poster created a brand new obvious /TRgeneral/ thread; his posting was thinly disguised as a general, non-General thread about Morrowind, but we all knew the truth: this was a General thread about Tamriel Rebuilt, the most insufferable mod to ever grace the web-sphere.
>>746645378DLSS 5 lookin good
I want a Morrowind Remaster. Yes, that's right. I said it. Fuck you. Todd, make it now. It will sell.
>>746647298sorry chuddie, bad news. bretons are no longer true morrowind canon.
>>746649038he's waiting for Skywind to announce a release date first
too many morrowind threads recently and you fags just aren't that basedwhat are you jews up to now?
>>746649113This is some retarded bullshit that no actual player has ever noticed or cared about.
>>746649120Skyrim is such a shit baseline to port the other ES games into, I don't get it. Morroblivion made sense because at least Oblivion has fun systems. Skyrim is a soulless pipeline that leads straight to stealth archery.
oughhhhh... wopopop
>>746649413i fucking hate these things and want them dead
Reminder that Elder Scrolls player characters are canonically in-universe glowie psyops>Caius says he's fed up with heroes. The Empire keeps sending them out here to the provinces to 'civilize' things. The fools don't seem to realize that their 'destinies' are being created by historical processes. And they're too ignorant and impatient to understand it.
>>746649113What is this autism?High rock is its own thing so no breton can appear in Morrowind? What?
>>746649215this just in: REAL Morrowind players don't care about the Bretons! Race swap everyone! It's boring that most npcs in Morrowind are Dunmer. Make them into Dagi-Raht khajiit, all of them!
>"The Emperor is getting old. Don't know how much longer he'll hang on. So is the whole Empire, for that matter.">"Getting old, that is.">"The Emperor and the legions have held the Empire together for hundreds of years. It's been a good thing, by and large. But maybe it's time for a change. Time for something young and new. >"What? No idea.">"Because I'm old. Old dog doesn't get new ideas.">"But maybe young folks like you should try some new ideas. I don't know. Could be messy.">"But change is never pretty."Talos is too based for this world
>>746649038You think they can make a game with levitate with their current devs?
>>746649889I was replying to the image in case that was unclear, my point being that no player was worried about or counted the number of Bretons in OE.
>>746650021You have my apologies, anon.
>>746649413What a terrible design
>>746649931theory: Caius was always an aspect of TalosTiber Septim is Caius Cosades
>>746645378I installed the mod for more varied Khajiit and I've found exactly zero of them.Every example in Balmora and Pelagiad is a standard vanilla Khajiit.
>>746650252The aspect that wants to stay bare chested and smoke moon sugar every day?
Farm tools look like THIS?
>>746650335the true dream of the "industrious" Imperial
>>746649113Why WOULD an Imperial colony be a slice of High Rock though? This shit ain't Oblivion, there's no need to subscribe to that one retarded fanon you see on /v/ sometimes claiming that Bretons are such a cultural powerhouse of a race they singlehandedly turned Cyrodiil into the vaguely roman Medieval Europe you see in TES IV
>>746647298Interesting how you're cool with the 20 GTA 6 and DLSS 5 shitpost threads clogging up the catalog though. You fuckers always try and police that one thread actually discussing a game you don't like and it's transparent as fuck. You're not a mod or a janny for good reason, because the moment someone like you infiltrates that role they fuck things over so hard they're kicked out in a couple of weeks.
>>746649413>Everyone acting like they're new>When they've been in TR since the startI guess nobody went to Port Telvannis on these threads.
>>746650412you and the potato-man are both getting hung up on a tagline for the city that isn't even apparent to the players. Old Ebonheart in no way feels like 'little High Rock,' so genociding the Bretons there is purely fiat. Probably will all get replaced with Redguards.
>>746650521>I guess nobody went to Port Telvannis on these threads.CorrectBut also, the old version looked like shitty edited Silt Striders and they've just been added to places like Almas Thirr, so they might as well be new for most people
>>746650661>The world is massive>People cling to the Thirr river and never fucking leave it>Are surprised by older content existingWhy.
>>746650539The vanilla imperial architecture (which is what OE uses) is described as being from High Rock
>nutranny-devs seethe about Old Ebonheart, despite the fanbase loving it>actively seek to remove its lore>"simplify" OE quests>remake it in their eyesWhen will the fans realize what the devs are doing to Old Ebonheart?
>>746651150We see it. Old Ebonheart will be renamedEbinhard, and it will be the magical gender reassignment capital of Tamriel.
>>746651150It probably won't be changed at all until Almalexia releass
>>746645378i'm going fucking insane. i want to make a khajiit that looks like this, i got the mod that lets you play as TRData races but i can't fucking figure out which khajiit furstock this isit also doesn't help they're all labeled "khajiit"
>>746647298Thanks for the bump :)>>746649038Not remastering Morrowind, and not wanting to is Todd's most noble and principled standFuck off with your shit
>>746649203Mainly doing the fighters guild on the mainland. I'm gonna be Telvanni but my magic is piss poor and I'm more focused on getting STR and Speed up for the minute
>>746645378/simg/ FAGGOT
>>746649931How's fighting a massive global war after the empire begins to collapse and uniting under a completely new dynasty sound?
>>746652332mine all have the right names so idk what your issue is. You're looking for the Tojay. Look for one with a power of Detect Enchantment
>>746652337Nope, I will continue to spread the sentiment online that we need a Morrowind Remaster. You may seethe
>>746652635none of them have a power like that. maybe i installed an inferior TRData Playable races mod
>>746645378>>746652332Do these guys have an additional racial ability to resist cold?
>>746652813this is probably the one you wanthttps://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/53710
>>746652813Maybe. Are you using ARCE?nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/53710
>>746652942ha jinx, I owe you a Flin
>>746652942>>746652967that did the trick, even though they're still not labelledthanks bros
>>746653173Have fun, tojay-bro!
>>746652767Why would I seethe, Todd says its not happening
>>746652332yeah they appear like that for me too, I went with Malahk Orc and they call me Malakh, sometimes just Orc, so I guess you can headcanon that everyone is retarded and just calls you Khajiit because they don't know any better. Custom races are really fun.
>Bethesda releases Remastered Morrowind that makes the entirety of Tamriel Rebuilt obsolete>the TR devs and fans screech and claim things won't change, progress on TR for original Morrowind will continue, and Remastered is flawed and terrible for XYZ reasons>over a year the team becomes exponentially more inactive due to morale issues>eventually it's kept together by a skeleton team>finally, in 2030, when Almalexia was set to be released, the team formally disbands and updates forever halt, the project having failed to complete its objective of building the entirety of Morrowind provinceIt's going to be so fucking kino.
>>746653347Look how they massacred my ghostgate
>>746653578>>Bethesda releases Remastered Morrowind that makes the entirety of Tamriel Rebuilt obsoleteHow would it do that?Note: I don't care about graphics
>>746653559>you can headcanon that everyone is retarded and just calls you Khajiit because they don't know any better."So are ya Cathay, or Suthay-raht?""Actually, I'm Tojay, I come from the southern marshes but have lived in Old Ebonheart for the last six years""... so are ya Cathay, or Suthay-raht?"
I don't understand the appeal of Tamriel Rebuilt or Project Cyrodil when you can't even experience 1/10 of the content in the vanilla game without becoming extremely OP to the point that the game loses all appeal.>oh cool a new region, let me get there by crossing the entire map in 30 seconds with my 100 jump + 5 second 1 magnitude slowfall ring>oh neat a quest where you need to kill a powerful vampire hiding a city, let me fortify my personality by 100 for 1 second to get information about where the vampire's home is, then go there and one shot him and all his minions with my enchanted daedric dai katana that absorbs health on every hitThe only enjoyable part of Morrowind is the first ~10 hours of a new playthrough, so I don't see the point of adding content that exists beyond that.
>>746654140Nigger you're OP by level 3 if you have half a brain, who gives a shitAre you playing Morrowind for the combat?
TR is the ESO of morrowind. there, i said it.
>>746654207ESO is the ESO of Morrowind since ESO has Morrowind in it
>>746654207what does that mean
>>746654140You realise you can go to new regions while level 1
>>746654207You are the ESO of this threadThere I said it
>>746654140It's really not hard to play the game normally anon.
>>746654207TR doesn't have a retarded monetization scheme so this analogy falls apart
>>746654373It's really hard for some people to not optimize all the fun out of a game by metaing as hard as possibleI'd go further into it but pic related really puts it eloquently, these players are the "powergamer" and "powerloser" archetypes respectively
>>746654278uninspired implementation of lore subjects heretofore unseen in the games, robbing the setting of its mystery by its mundane depiction but praised by people for merely acknowledging that lore's existence
>>746654732examples?
>>746654140>get there by crossing the entire map in 30 secondwhy would you do such a thing? the journey is the destination
>>746654278huge ocean of low-effort content with middle school-level writing that only sounds good to ESLs
>>746649113why do they hate the bretons? one of my favorite parts of TR was all the cutthroat politics behind the scenes at the high rock mission in old ebonheart. you could even go all the way to tribunal, kill helseth, and bring his ring to them in an unmarked quest. they got rid of all of this though for some reason
Has anyone played the updated old ebonheart content? Some anon said the indoril questline was cool except for the last quest. So I'm wondering how much does old ebonheart changes.
>>746654140slower leveling mods work if you make characters with a goal instead of doing all content, for everything else there is fun to be found in restraint like not rushing for giga enchanted items of death and personality snapshotting
Morrowind is definitely one of those games where boomers and hipsters claim it's perfect as it is and the best game ever, but in reality it's literally unplayable and looks like shit to anyone who didn't grow up with it. Perfect example of "hasn't aged well", but not a meme this time. I sincerely hope VI bombs so Todd is forced back into the vault like what happened with Oblivion when Starfield flopped
>>746655060ur not even trying
>>746655060>"literally unplayable">plenty of people play itthats weird
>>746655060Fuck off tranny
Boomies BIG mad at that TRVTHNVKE
>>746655060it's because they install a 2x walk speed mod and forget that's not how fast the vanilla game is
>>746654140make different characters. when the game starts getting too easy, make a new one.>>746655013most player power comes from items not levels
>>746655013I play with a slower leveling mod and only focus on stuff my character would do, it goes pretty wellMain source of random power spikes is getting a random filled soul gem worth a gorillion septims, MCP can patch this but I never enabled it for some reason
>>746655007The new East Empire Company questline is kino
>>746650412>Why WOULD an Imperial colony be a slice of High Rock though?there are examples in history of a colonizing force directly importing or otherwise attracting a bunch of people from an unrelated third culture to the place they are colonizing, becoming the majority culturehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straits_Settlements
>>746654207ESO has much cuter girls
>>746655645this is a joke rightthe player models in ESO are lazy and vomit inducing
>>746654770Kek, bodied that freak
>>746654207ESO already has Morrowind in it. It's got a time-traveling Seyda Neen, and a House Hlaalu that is somehow just as powerful as its 3rd era counterpart despite the game taking place before the Third Empire was even founded thus directly contradicting the PGE, and a "Telvanni Peninsula" that's mostly in land meant to belong to House Indoril. Oh and also everybody wears metal and leather armor instead of chitin and bonemold.
I'm just... not interested in fan-made slop. All respect to those who can enjoy TR and other fan-made expansions... I just cannot bring myself to play your fanfic
>>746655003autismos are very rigid in their thinking and everything has to adhere to some goofy pattern they've cooked up in their heads
>>746655060Thanks for the bump :)
>>746656115I stick to official lore like the Skyrim cookbook and TES castles on my phone
>>746654207>new content im unfamiliar with scares me and fills me with melancholy so i hate TR.
Every damn thread
>>746656115same. i only like high-quality lore with the official bethesda seal of approval, such as the Storm Elemental Mini Cliff Racer® limited edition pet, an electric subspecies of cliff racer which according to its ESO Loot Crate Store™ description were kept as pets by the ancient nords (fus ro dah!!!!!)
the hell is this? circus finally moved out of ebinhard? whos performing?
>>746655003>for some reasonThe new devs not so subtly hate the old ones who left.
I liked ESO. It was the only post-WoW mmo I genuinely enjoyed. The only reason I don't play it is because they won't allow transfers from console to PC. I'm not sorry.
>>746656460If it's not in an official product it's not canon. Sorry kirkbride cultist. Your inane ramblings will never be canon.
Has anyone surpassed him?
>>746656571The big devs who worked on OE are still there
>>746656115TR is far closer to canon than anything released after Morrowind. Even many of the things present in the original game are depicted far better and more faithfully by the TR team.
>>746650412Because Pelagiad and Caldera from vanilla are that way.
I am getting the itch again, and I saw there is this wabbajack mod loader I never heard of before. What's an up to date mod guide for morrowind now?
>>746656646nah bro i agree with you 100%, we gotta defend the actual canon material like the critically acclaimed game Elder Scrolls: Castles© for the Android and IOS phones and its trvly canonical additions like dragon eggs and the [Player_Decided_Name] kingdom of Cyrodiil from those stupid kikebride cultists
>>746656848Just go on Nexus and download the shit you want man Jesus christHow old are you?
>>746650412Because Todd wants generic castle and villages in all his fantasy games. Literally every single TES has had cobble castle keeps and straw roof cottages. Every one. That's todd's ideal.
>>746656460Same. I love when the lore is based primarily on descriptions of cosmetics found in the ESO crown store. For me, it's Shezzar's Chicken, which is worthy of mention on the UESP page for Shezzar, because they named it after Shezzar, because they couldn't just name it "Chicken". I love having these tidbits inserted into every article about everything, sometimes written in a way that mixes them together with lore from the actual games so as to obfuscate where it came from, but always failing in that endeavor, because it always sticks out like a sore thumb. I also enjoy that books from ESO are not marked as being from ESO in citation notes, but are always extremely obviously from ESO.
>>746656848Just go to MOMW and grab whatever looks good. Don’t even need nexus premium.
Wrong thread I know but I've been on an Elder Scrolls kick. Just beat IV, now thinking of giving V another go for the first time in years. Any modpacks to make it not look like shit?
>>746656868Kick your feet and tantrum all you want, it still doesn't make your fan fic canon.
>>746656885lord of the rings did irreparable damage to the TES franchise
>>746656646Based and Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (mobile)pilledThanks for the bump :)
So is the dwemer yeeting themselves out of reality with CHIM still canon or was that a kirkbride thing? This thread has me confused
>>746656917Looks like it's I heart vanilla + a levelling mod, I just hate the levelling system in this game.
>>746656848If you're using OpenMW this is a good baseline.https://modding-openmw.com/lists/i-heart-vanilla-directors-cut/Morrowind doesn't need too many mods. imo there's no need for modpacks really. I think if you have a large modlist it'll either be a bunch of GRAFICS mods if that's your thing, a ton of MWSE scripts you felt like installing, or a ton of quest mods you downloaded all at once
>>746656953why u coming at me bro????? we on the same side bro!!! we should be defending real invaluable canon additions from real canon official games like ESO's badass new daedric prince(ss) Ithelia, together!!!! look at her she's so mommy!!!!
>>746656629I wish the combat wasn't so boring or I'd play it. I know TES doesn't have great combat, but at least it's fast.
>>746656978Sometimes I think daggerfall is charming in a dorky fairytale kind of way, with its little midi flute music and funny renaissance faire looking characters. Like, oh, they're doing their best.Then I realize it came out in 1996 , DECADES after some of the craziest and most inspired fantasy of all time , and I realize that Bethesda has always just sucked balls lol.And I don't mean everything has to be weird or wild like 1980's dnd art. Historical Hollywood epics from the 1960's did it better. Jrpgs from the 80's did it better. Everything did it better.
>>746656953What's your current build on The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind?
>>746654770too many to name.
>>746657059>still canon or a kirkbride thinghuh?They didn't cut anything that kirkbride wrote. kirkbride just kept writing after he stopped working on the games
>>746657329conjurer / wealth acquirer/ pimp
>>746657236If you understand you're still playing an MMO and can get a decent ability rotation going, it's actually very fast paced. Much more than the mainline games. That being said, faster doesn't mean better.
who's your favorite canon TES character? for me it's red bramman, he's a super badass argonian pirate lord who SOMEHOW had red hair despite being a lizard and who raped and enslaved his own people so fucking hard they got brain damage or something and ended up being afraid of imperials instead!now kirkbride would NEVER come up with something this cool
The autism on display from purists ITT is exactly why Todd wants to forget Morrowind ever happened. Zenimax lore is retarded, everyone knows that, it's not some gotcha like you think it is.
>>746657107That’s fairIt’s braindead simple to add onto the site’s modlists which is nice
>>746657298making original things is risky. people want safe and guaranteed money and you do that by appealing to the lowest common denominator to bring in as many clients as possible. oh (popular thing) is putting out numbers? copy (popular thing)look at the utter dogshit that is the indie games scene for example. an entire generation only interest in creating mockeries of their childhoodit's derivatives all the way down.
>>746657536Todd loves Morrowind and wants people to play it for what it is, not some dogshit remake that isn't really MorrowindYou stupid fag
>>746656914what makes it shezzar's
>>746656656lmao TRfags unironically and genuinely believe this
>>746656978This is why I like Morrowind the best of the TES games. It has a ton of random weeb shit all over and borrowed a bunch of runequest lore, which seems a bit silly, but then you realize it's because the developers literally just made whatever they thought was cool at the time. It's genuine and sincere in a way. Later entries in the series have too much pandering to what they believed general audiences would like, rather than what the developers themselves liked. That, or the development team morphed into more of a general audience and thus lost the interesting inspirations the earlier teams had.
>>746657446It's obviously a mistake but an argonian tasked by the imperials to rape Black Marsh so hard Argonians are afraid whenever they see the flag would be cool.
>>746657584>Todd loves Morrowind and wants people to play it for what it isLITERALLY a PR statement. If you think Todd has so much as touched Morrowind in the past 20 years you're huffing paint
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>>746657536>calling sacred official CANON lore "retarded"kirkbride cultist RAT...
>>746657660He's 55 years old. If Todd doesn't play Morrowind it's probably because it's too new and casual for him.
>>746657660>NO ACTUALLY HE DOESNT MEAN WHAT HE SAID>HE MEANS WHAT I WANT HIM TO SAYkek, retard melty
>>746657691Notice how it's a schizophrenic TRtard who replies instantly. Thanks for proving my point
>>746657536>PuristsIs one guy and is the schizo. Check the previous thread on the archive. He is now doing this since the MSWE vs OpenMW angle didn't work. The guy hates Morrowind in general.
>>746657217i want TES6 to have a reference to ithelianot because i think she's cool or hot or interesting in any capacity, but for the sheer worldwide level of asshurt it would unleash
>>746657643Not even a necessarily a mistake, they were probably just grasping at straws to find Argonian characters to make cards out of outside the actual in-game NPCs due to the fact Argonians have quite literally 0 important individual characters in the lore, so they had to resort to turning an Imperial character who's tangentially related to Black Marsh into one
>>746655003They also had a big discussion about romanceable characters. I am consoled only by the fact that they are themsrelves uncomfortable with adding romance at all. Howeverbeit, they delighted in concocting romance concepts where the player can only matchmake attractive people, or can only romance repulsive and sociopathic characters. So, in short, they want to humiliate the player.
>>746657701Yeah, sure, that's why they modernized some of the archaic shit in Oblivion. He's not touching Morrowind because he knows deranged boomers would shit their pants and cry for years. Cope
boing boing boing boing boing boing boing
>>746657853Why yes I do want a rude and demeaning dunmer Dres noble wife
>>746657853Arvesa is the only Morrowind waifu players need anyways
>>746657906>modernized some of the archaic shit in OblivionNo they didnt, they made a tiny tweak to the levelling systemYou don't know what you're talking about because you're a retardMany such cases
>>746645378why is it standing there like a seething chud
>>746657561>people want safe and guaranteed money and you do that by appealing to the lowest common denominatorThe aforementioned Hollywood epics and jrpgs I mentioned were also doing that. They just bothered to have interesting and identifiable aesthetics instead of copying from a child's medieval themed coloring book
>>746657906>morrowfags are so powerful they singlehandedly keep Todd Howard from slopifying for a (((modern audience))) through the mere threat of their wrathHoly based, and I'm supposed to think that's bad?
A Morrowind remaster would remove the dice rolls. Are you prepared for that?
>>746657853is there any mention of gay or bisexual in TR at all?
>>746658585I pray for that. Morrowind is at it's best in the world and quests. It plays like liquid dog shit
>>746658585todd already said they're not remastering morrowind. they know they would cause a shitstorm if they changed the gameplay
>>746658731How hard would it be realistically to just add a toggle for people over 40 who have stockholm syndromed themselves into thinking it has good gameplay?
>I’d rather you play Morrowind the way it was ... I think the age is part of its identity.>says the same about Fallout 1/2This is actually PR really he's afraid Grognards will behead him in the name of Allah
>>746658860fallout 1/2's gameplay was actually engaging though. proper TTRPGmorrowind is just mash left click and hope you don't fuck up your dice rolls
>>7466589312 has some incredibly gay encounters though. Don't know how the hell you are supposed to solo some of them
>>746658860Coping retards say the dumbest shit
>>746658731They're not remastering it because the existing gameplay is normie kryptonite and they don't want to invest resources into a full blown remake. That's the reason why it isn't happening. They don't care at all about upsetting a few hundred boomers and you're retarded if you think that they do.
>>746659024Yeah imagine thinking that Todd wasn't saying what he thinks, fucking retards>>746658931>spam clickHow's the dagger build going?
Should I replay morrowind and do some of the factions I've never done before or go for tamriel rebuilt?
>>746659159Seethe lol
>TODD WOULD NEVER LIE FOR GOOD BOY POINTSAre we being serious right now?
What did Todd lie about?
>>746659240Why not both?>>746659247Why are you upset?
>>746659292Todd has been the modern day Peterneux for well over a decade now, I don't know where the sudden Howard worship is coming from but it's entirely delusional
>>746659379>Why not both?I figured I would end up way too high level.People always say tamriel rebuilt is best if you mostly beeline one faction
>>746659381What did he lie about though?
Literally name just 5 thing Todd lied about
>>746659450>>746659484Too young to remember Fallout 76, eh? You could fill a book with the drama surrounding that game alone
>>746659442What factions did you not do in vanilla?I'm only really just dipping my toe into TR now but I'm going back and forth and doing the Imperial factions on vvardenfell and the mainlandAs said before you'll get OP in the first five levels min maxing your stats or not if you aquire certain items, just don't worry about it until its no fun
>>7466594841. NOT president of the chess club2. Fallout 763. Fallout 764. Fallout 765. Surprisingly it's Fallout 76 again
>>746659529>young>remember Fallout 76lmao, imagine following that shitshow at allWhat did Todd actually lie about though?
>>746659571Any of the stealth factionsOnly did a little bit of legionNeither of the religious factionsHlaalu and redoran I each only did a little of
I'm a big Skyrim and oblivion fan, here's my experience with Morrowind >Be hyped up about how it's a complex game according to everyone I see>Start the game, get out of the boat and into seyda been>Ask npcs about stuff>They all give the same draw out replies>Try to do some quests>"Go collect 10 bear asses" "go collect a diamond" "go kill thing">Get lost because I was born in 2003 and have no idea where north, south and shit is>Die repeatedly to bugged ratsI dropped it and never looked back, any tips on making the game bearable?
>>746659278what good boy points would "no we're not remastering the game that saved our company" give you?
>>746659729nigga I'm a year younger than you and I've been playing this game for seven years already you're just retarded
>>746659484i wasn't able to climb that mountain. i had to capture a dragon with a large wooden paperweight and convince him to fly me to skuldafn
>>746659659It all started with a canvas bag, you see...
>>746659729You need to get used to dialogue, the quests are barebones because they imitated daggerfall quests. Ideally you will download tamriel rebuilt and project tamriel and start these quests. And take the minor, major skills seriously. Is not like skyrim that you can get away with being a shitter. Spells fail if your skill is too low. Rest a lot, rest everywhere. Only way to get magicka and stamina back.
>>746659713I'd just install it, I mean tbqhwyf I have had it installed in various forms for decades and this is the first time I've bothered checking out the mainland in a run, and now I don't understand why I didn't beforeAlso same I've never completed thieves or morag tong, and im not even doing them this run neitherNo harm in getting it though, hop on the boat if you want more content for your character or don't, it won't matter if you get it and don't do it>>746659729Nah there are none, just give in imo
>>746659798The lie is that it isn't being remastered cos of some special affection Todd has for Morrowind and that he cares about preserving it in it's original form. It's not that complicated.
>>746653347Lina?
>>746659876Is that the reason that massive faggot Pete Hines left? I don't know the drama because I didn't like 4 and I completely ignored 76Did Todd actually lie about something himself though? I'm genuinely asking, because most people say it but can't name fuck all lied about besides maybe the mountain climbing (which happen to have steps up them you can scale)
>>746660026bingo
>>746659990So you're saying he lied and they've actually remastered it, but no one ever has heard of it or seen it?That's crazy anon.
>Bore-o-wind
>>746660086my nigga
>>746659895>Tamriel rebuilt I'll definitely download that>>746659819I'm joking about not being able to find my way around, I can do it, my real issue with the game is the shitty quests and boring NPCs, besides MAYBE the main quest the story is significantly worse than Skyrim
>>746660046It's hard to say what decisions were Todd's directly or other higher ups in Bethesda, but he is in charge and so the responsibility falls on him. They were for sure locking threads and all over social media doing damage control like flies on shit. Everything about 76's release was an absolute shitshow. As for Todd's direct undeniable lies,>Fallout 3 will have 200 endings.comes to mind as a big one
>>746658386You know that thing in the last 30 years of gaming where NPCs move an inch at least every once in awhile, maybe reposition their posture or whatever at the very least? Yeah, Morrowind doesn't have any of that. People just stand.
>>746660397Morrowind is more about absorbing the world as a whole than any notable events or twists in quests . That in mind amusing and surprising things still happen if you pay attention
wow...nice lies
>>746647298hey newfag, we have this function called a "filter" where you can automatically hide threads youre not interested in. can you go back now and never return, please?
>>746660828>It's hard to say what decisions were Todd's directly or other higher ups in Bethesdawhat? who's above todd? he's fucking todd howard, the leader of bethesda
>>746660883tell that to the silt strider drivers that keep falling off their platforms
>>746661153Other higher ups, as in other people of power within Bethesda, Mr. ESL. Not people "higher than Todd". Todd doesn't make every single decision single handedly.
>>746654615its also just a free fucking mod that you dont need to install. to equate a free mod by some neets to a multi-million dollar project by a literal multi-BILLION dollar company is ridiculous.
I like how /v/ is so underage now that no one remembers there was a literal class action lawsuit against Bethesda surrounding 76 lmao
>>746660828Kek alright id never heard that one>>746661512What level of bait is thisNo adult gives a fuck about 76
Who would win between Todd and him?
>>746655218Trannies are the only one likes Morrowind tho. so you should follow your own advice and ACK to save us the trouble
>>746661836>two hours and the best counterargument xhe could come up with was "no u"
>>746661269Yea the jews own Todd's goyim ass,Zenimax was created by two jews. The jewish whore Lynda Carter was married to one them that's why she voice acted in the games. Now that they sold it to microslop Bill Gates owns Todd
>>746661512or maybe we just don't give a shit about dogshit franchises nor the drama surrounding them
>>746661636>>746662014>No adult gives a fuck about 76Uh huh, sure. That's why it was so massively anticipated. Very disingenuous. Regardless, whether you cared about 76 or not, closing your ears and pretending none of the bullshit Bethesda pulled surrounding it somehow doesn't matter is the biggest C U C K copout you can pull just to win an internet argument. Embarrassing.
>>746662104>you don't get it bro you HAVE to care about the slop look at how many piggies were anticipating their slop you HAVE to be interested in it!No.
>>746662183Todd's not going to let you hit, bro
>>746662302That's great bro.You gonna stop vagueposting about your 76 tangent any time soon or can I just recursively hide this retarded conversation of yours?
>>746662423Hide it, you're literally incapable of addressing the heart of the matter, being>pretending none of the bullshit Bethesda pulled surrounding it somehow doesn't matter is the biggest C U C K copout you can pullSo run and hide kucky, that's all you can do.
>>746662539>runI'm not the one vagueposting, you coward. I'd just rather not see the shit you keep smearing on the walls.
>>746662104Thanks for the bump in this Morrowind thread :)
>>746662627I like Morrowind, here have another. I'm just sick of seeing underage b& and Bethesda cultists pretend they can do no wrong.
>>746649038Nigger Todd hates Morrowind, he can lie all he wants about it, the same way he lied about not being bad blood between Bethesda and Obsidian, but I know is true.
>>746659729>>Ask npcs about stuff>>They all give the same draw out replies>>Try to do some quests>>"Go collect 10 bear asses" "go collect a diamond" "go kill thing"now do quests and dialog in skyrim and oblivion
>>746657329A Lamp Knight that goes all in on using enchanted items for combat and utility.
give me an indoril build
>>746664524pick crusader in the premade class list
>>746664570>premade class listyuck who the fuck uses them
>>746664648indorilfagstheir preferred skills are literally a 1:1 of their majors
>>746664524The devs have told you what skills to take. Heavy armor- they made sure to hand out daedric armor like candy.
>>746664648nta, but I do. When you played Morrowind as long as I did, custom class gets really fucking boring since you can minmax the shit out of it and become an unstoppable god. Pre-built classes have built in weaknesses that can make the game more challenging and better fits roleplay.
>>746656467Are you using a clothing or body mod? Because your pants actually look seamless instead of having that funny adult diaper look pants have in vanilla (and if so which mod)
>>746664687daedric armor isnt indoril coded
>>746657662Uh, fucking unfathomably based.
>>746650415>>746650415nta but i like the game and i even like TR. you TR devs on V are insufferable though
Every other thread on /v/>hey guys let's talk about this fun game that we all share interest in, maybe post screenshots of our playthroughs, share our LARP stories, etc.Morrowind threads>*autistic screeching*Why.
>>746664871Dinosaur game with no more discussion to be had outside of shilling a mod. Please understand
>>746664871and yet this post is not talking about the game either, curious!
>>746664871That is not what every other thread on /v/ is like. They're all autistic screeching, contrarianism, trolling, seething chuds, and performative racism
>>746650839because everyone warns players that all the old content is bad lol
>>746651150the fanbase being reddit? OE sucks
Yeah, I'm gonna say it: the Ja-natta Syndicate feels like some OC DONUT STEEL shit. It's MODDY
>>746647298TRoon can't help themselves anon. they need there attention fix somehow.
>>746665119yeah it feels like something out of star wars totally out of place in morrowind like wtf were they thinking
>>746664750It is though, they're canonically heirlooms that Dunmer noblemen pass from generation to generation and have dunmer religious imagery on the helms
>>746657446for me its Enric Milres author of "The Alik'r (Second Era)" about his journey through the Alik'r circa 2E 582 as he laments over the current war with Ebonheart Pact.Enric Milres very thoughtfully decided to update his memoir, "The Alik'r," 700 years later to instead include his lamentations over the current war of Betony
>>746647298i can't believe this game is taking up a thread slop for what could be the 20th active gta6 on the catalog
Morag Tong insists upon itself. It felt too pretentious.
>>746664871combination of TR devs being unfathomably faggy and creating/spam bumping every thread, and some legitimate retards who just hate that morrowind is enjoyed by people because it makes them insecure
This guy really can't get over his hate of TR, every thread he posts the same bait.
>>746665257daedric? there are only 2 sets in the entire base game. one worn by divayth fyr and the other scattered throughout the world
>>746665462What is even the point of hating an optional mod?
>>746645378It's interesting. Devs and fans flock to these threads to discuss Tamriel Rebuilt, yet they never talk about the quests or the lore or the writing, especially never about the writing, the prose. Nobody ever says, "it was really deep when [character] said [X], it struck a chord with me." It's almost as if Tamriel Rebuilt actually doesn't have anything to say.
>>746665462>post and keep shill thread bumped at all times >hey this thread is an advertisement for a mod and i don't really like the mod >FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU SCHIZO YOU HATE BONER FUCK YOU *cries* lol. there's literally no real discussion about TR on v, sorry guys. it's the same 2 or 4 devvies going back and forth with each other pretending to have a discussion and some random anons showing up and saying why are these threads always up and why are they so shitty
>>746665506He hates Morrowind and thinks TR is responsible for Morrowind still being discussed, he thinks if he gets people to stop talking about TR then all Morrowind discussion will die forever.>But he says he likes the base game?Yeah it's called lying to support his goal, he also does a lot of the "Morrowind sucks so bad next to Skyrim" posting too.
>>746664871Lmao what kind of fucking fantasy /v/ have you been living in? If anything these threads were some of the better ones on this board before the one autist kicked into overdrive after Poison Song released
>>746665571the quest writing in TR is actually abysmal lol all the cities run like complete shit Every time i switch from vvardenfell to TR content i just stop playing really quick. It actually bricked my recent hardcore pilgrim character because installing TR changes the requirements to advance in the guilds and i couldn't advance further on vvardenfell despite doing all the temple quests there. I went to do a TR temple and just noped out and didn't touch the character again. sort of sucked but i don't feel like deleting TR just to fix that since i'm holding out some hope i could someday find it fun
>>746665462nta but every morrowind or TES thread eventually becomes a TR thread where Morrowindfags thinks it's the best thing ever made and no other mod can compete or a MWSEvsOpenmw. it's tiring seeing the same thing every thread
>>746665679no they were never good. there's no discussion, just devvies samefagging to each other back and forth to keep up the advertizing. next to no one even plays morrowind let alone TR. there shouldn't be threads about this up all the time. and you're actually a bunch of annoying faggots that people dislike so you get the responses you get
>>746665679At least the fact that he's so desperate and samefags so much in these threads shows that he senses the mod isn't going anywhere and he's lost, he just hopes he can stake out some kind of territory on /v/.
I've figured it out bros. What about a Morrowind... 2Then everyone would be happy
>>746655060>claim it's perfectnobody said everIts great despite being flawed as fuck
>>746665571who the fuck says that about morrowind writing in general
>if you don't like my mod shilling, than you don't like Morrowindsorry TRannies if you want a echo chamber than go back to your trooncord or better yet, create a general in /vg/ like a normal person
>>746665902nta but the main quest of morrowind is outstanding. nothing in the rest of the game is anywhere near as good, however, and the average TR quest is definitely better than the average vanilla quest
>>746649931>not shirtlessnot my caius
Like look at the absolute spam of samefag he's doing when it's pointed out we all know he's one guy having a fit, it's crazy.
>>746666035that isnt caius dumbass
>>746665981damn are you trying to MAKE the devs do something? TR SLAVERY ALERT!!! 0 DAYS SINCE SLAVERY MENTIONED WHOOOOP WHOOOOOOP Gorsh I shore do hate it when the players of my mod discuss slavery! I'd rather there be no discussion at all than one on those icky ewyyy stinky slavers!!!!!
>>746665981This.
>>746666035Why would a god go shirtless?
>>746657329ayleid (thanks for the new races poison song) mage. trying for a spell only run this time around. trying out the finished old ebonheart mages guild stuff
>>746666083This guy lurks the discord 24/7 looking for shit to screenshot and take out of context to bait on /v/.
>>746666276Keep defending TR and maybe one of the devs newly minted as a girl will fuck you.
>>746666445See look, he's now trying to turn this into generic /pol/ seething because he hopes you all care as much as he does.
>>746666083lmaobad move bro, all this post shows is that you are indeed a sperg whose quarrel is personal enough for you to be on their discord and everything
>Elder Scrolls: Skyrim in 2011>generic norse setting>Elder Scrolls: Hammerfell in 2035>generic human kingdoms setting>Elder Scrolls: Valenwood in 2059>generic wood elf setting>Elder Scrolls: Elsweyr in 2073> fantasy cat Africa kino>Elder Scrolls: Black Marsh in 2098>fantasy lizard Swamp kinoBuckle up bros... We're going to be having this discussion for a long time before we get back to some unique fantasy kino
>>746666603generic wakanda setting*
>>746666603Valenwood isn't generic tho
>>746666646That's going to be Hammerfell, except with a WE WUZ (Western) KINGS twist
Bros what if Bethesda, forced by Xbox's CEO, hires Michael Kirkbride again to create a 15-year saga encompassing a trilogy of new TES games?
>>746666603Todd will retire or die after sentinel so Valenwood will be good
Morrowind bros.....SkyrimCHADS are bullying us again....
>>746666540>being well informed about the group I critique is somehow cringe or spergytotally bro, it's you vs. the world bro
>>746666748it will be shit. Kirkbride is a hack
>>746665592Thanks for bumping the thread :)
>>746666748kirkbride on his own just creates schizoslop, you need kuhlmann and todd too, at minimum, for a morrowind
>>746666949>toddTodd makes nothing worthwhile creatively, especially not now that he's a Microsoft golem
>>746666949>todd tooWhat did Todd ever do that was good?
>>746666861>Well-informed>Guys look I lurked and lurked until I took a screenshot of one guy complaining in general chat!Like you didn't even include the context of one of the people he was complaining about being someone who brought up slavery daily to BITCH about it and complain about how evil Dres is and how potentially racist trying to depict the Dres was.
>>746667008>>746667003Todd was the tardwrangler of the group you retard.
>>746665571It has plenty to say, but maybe you haven't entertained it earnestly? They could have made the Indoril into another Christian amalgam pastiche about how religion ultimately leads to ruin or whatever Reddit preaches these days. Instead we see that the Indoril take the welfare and protection of their people seriously, moreso than Hlaalu. They are doing the best they can to prop up a House that was nearly ruined by the Armistice.
>>746667003>>746667008Todd was by all accounts a competent man manager, that's according to staff that left Bethesda during the development of Morrowind
>>746667034so basically you're still malding about Vern and have some flavor of compulsion to force your in joke on everyone else?
>>746667315You just proved this anon >>746666540 extremely correct.
>>746666949Rolston was also important too, just not as much for the crazy esoteric shit
>>746666748The CEO doesn't know shit about the creative process. The last lay offs literally booted the last creative people on the team
>>746667154the current redditor meta is actually that catholicism and twelver shi'ism are wholesome 100 epic sauce, all other religions are morally bankrupt, and american protestantism and mormonism are super duper mega satan. I agree with your actual point, nonetheless
>>746664687In all seriousness, why did some people expect the Indoril to have Medium Armor as a major skill again? It's not as if the Hlaalu and Telvanni have it despite also having medium armor-clad guardsmen as part of their faction
how come morrowind is still relevant and talked about today?
>>746667830Because it has a niche that nothing else comes close to covering?
>kill 3 dudes in midgame gear building an outhouse>that's it that's the questline finale good job indoril house cousinThis is a fucking disappointment after Fortune.
>>746667947skyrim ? oblivion? better games? ??? ??
>>746667830because little freaks like me still love it
>>746668006Fuck off back to r*ddit you n'wah
>>746667980Actually, immersive and ambitious questlines are not in the spirit of the original game
>>746668113nigger elf
>>746668006Thanks for the bump :)
>>746665119i agree, having a whole compound in the middle of nowhere guarded exclusively by orcs felt moddy af
>>746668006>SkyrimYou're not even trying. And if you're going to shitpost at least learn the usage of capital letters. A post with poor grammar might as well be screaming "I'M ONLY HERE TO BE A RETARD!"
>>746667550This lol, people will complain about anything. Thanks for your sanity omg
>>746668248skyirm isnt a real place, dickwad
>>746667980i would have liked to have a more flashy finale, but the quests in this release are supposed to be the indoril midgame when the faction is finished. (your idea about making the hlaalu councilor kill quest the finale might have been smartest after all, but ah well.) maybe the MV release should go further in the faction questline plan than was planned before. could do the whole stronghold shabang and become an Indoril councilor, maybe
>>746668006If you actually knew what the appeal of Morrowind is you'd have named something like Zeno Clash or Baten Kaitos rather than Oblivion and Skyrim just because they're in the same series.
>>746667516shiism and mormonism have more in common than most would think, but we're not ready for that conversation...
>>746654140It's a roleplaying game, make a character with limitations and roleplay as that
>>746667980i don't think that was the finale, just the last quest in the line currently in the game. there will certainly be more when the rest of the indoril lands are redone. i really hope we see something involving tholer andes considering tur julan was redone.
>>746668358there's an idea about a quest to lure him into Tur Julan and force him to face off with his Indoril ancestors. that was going to be beroth's support quest at some point, but people thought it was too much for the faction midgame, so something like that's going to be added later probably
>>746666748>washed up nigga who did nothing in the last 20 odd years and is prolly a retarded progressive lefty now as wellhard pass
>Try out the new Old Ebonheart Court Wizard quest>Okay, so Tarhiel isn't the Court Wizard anymore, that's fine and better if anything>Now it's some literal who and they refuse to go into his death>The duel goes the same until the final fight>Now, instead of the kino moment where you can weaponise an Icarian Flight scroll against the Altmer, you... give a boring summon ghost spell to Saturnius instead>And the experiment that killed the old Court Wizard was this very spell, but it's suddenly okay with this faggot>And the quest reward is worseI understand they wanted to remove Tarhiel, but the end result of this quest change is fucking soulless. It feels more like a rushed work in progress, what the fuck were they thinking?
>>746668453sounds like a beroth quest alright, that crazy bitch.
>>746668484>retarded progressive lefty now>now
>>746668305Oh, so you're ESL. That explains quite a lot about you, actually. Continue to seethe about these threads, thirdie.
>>746668484He's a dev for Skywind now (not joking)
>>746668520the obsession with destroying everything good about old ebonheart is fascinating
>>746668572you're brown and u cant afford a pc good enough to run skyrim
>>746668556i know it wouldve been nice. but whatever, making it the quest for when you need to get the approval of dead councilors to become leader of indoril works too. that is if people don't object to it on the basis that involving tholer in yet another quest would be too complicated. i know that was one reason people wanted it not in this release either
>>746668672You can't even afford a keyboard with a working caps lock button, the fuck are you prattling on about. Now I'm done with your clearly underage and retarded third world ass, so go be brown on someone else's time. I shan't be wasting my time and responding to your retardation any further.
>>746668845speaking like ur white, white envy is a disease
>>746668653they can't keep getting away with this
>>746667980Shouldn't the finale only be added when Almalexia is in though? It's easy to forget because of Tribunal and all, but that place is supposed to belong to the Indoril and all
>>746668735oh yeah i could see some technical issues considering he's pretty central to the bal foyan FG. well hopefully the quest makes it in. the great house quests do a great job intersecting with their various counterparts. i always love getting the opportunity to be the other side of another playthrough.
>>746669057NTA but they absolutely still could've ended the current content on a more exciting note, especially after you spend a bunch of quests building up to it. I think this is a case of the relevant devs forgetting that players don't have the same encyclopedic top-down view of the political situation, and so the significance of the Nav Andaram landgrab doesn't come through in gameplay. A quick temporary fix would be to give the guys you fight better equipment and give the quest an actual reward.
>>746669168yeah, tholer andas is kind of the hottest property around in terms of quest involvement lol. he's mixed up with:>bal foyen FG (popular questline)>orlukh vampire clan questline>hlaalu questline obviously not that it matters>a bunch of other quests in minor unforseen waysindoril is a fighter faction too, so players might reasonably do those (vamp and FG) other quests and kill him prior. him already being dead is easy to account for (he's already dead? yay! your support is mine), but the real problem is the player starting one of those quests in the middle of the other. it's such a stupid edgecase, but it requires a lot of hemming and hawing and and scripting stupid little failsafes for whatever dumb shit a random player might do.
>>746669376This whole update feels kind of rushed, I don't like any of the changes so far. It feels like someone just tried stamping their own no fun allowed style over a bunch of the old content out of spite.
>>746645378pallas my beloved
>>746669376How would you compare the rewards of Tamriel Rebuilt quests to those of vanilla?
>>746669168>>746669409You do know we can tell you're replying to yourself, right? You didn't even mix up the lack of capitalization.
>>746669473This would make sense if you were replying to someone complaining about the changes to OE, instead of someone talking about the Indoril quests which are brand new and replacing absolutely nothing.
>>746669528nuh uh
What class will the Dres be? Stealth major fags like Hlaalu but more damage-oriented?
>>746669650slaver
>>746669574The new content feels rushed too. I really like TR, but Poison Song is probably the least polished update so far.
>>746669650Spear
>>746668520Have you checked out the new mage guild questline yet? The best quest in that one was the last and the rest were fairly meh in the old version. How much has changed now?
>>746669840I'm Fighters Guild, so I don't know. They got rid of the Fighters Guild quest for the witch in Git though, so they've already seemingly gutted it a little.At least the fun quest involving the Alfiq prince is still there.
>>746669509Very good and interesting for the most part, especially in Poison Song. I loved getting useful low-cost spells, training, access to services, etc from the Indoril quests. My biggest issue is that it's too bimodal; there's lots of crazy powerful stuff and lots of weak garbage. I think this could be solved by just being less stingy with unenchanted high-level loot. It seems like people are afraid to give you/send you to a plain old ebony or glass armor set. It's at a point where if I want my character to actually power up quickly, I go back to Vvardenfell and do quests there, because e.g. Percius Mercius gives you more in two hours than you'll get out of three TR questgivers in twelve.
>>746657936jestermaxing khajiit are real?
>>746669969That was defo more of a Mage Guild quest so I get why it was trashed!
>>746667550I confess that i did, mostly because y'know, like everybody else on earth the first thing that pops in my mind when i think of the Indoril is the Ordinator set from vanilla. I fully understand why the devs did it though.That being said, i AM stuck with an Indoril character whose major skills are medium and light armor (in hindsight have no fucking idea why i did this) and none at all on heavy because I've progressed too much and i don't wanna reset with a character that specializes on Heavy despite being constantly tempted to do so.
>>746670028While I'm one of the guys bitching about Poison Song, I'll give it credit here: The dungeons you'll stumble on for quests give you so much good loot you'll power up quickly in no time.
>>746669969The witch who cursed the guy, the witch with a bounty on her head?I did that like 2 days ago anon
>>746670028>>746670126Usually a quest from the mainland will lead to one or a few locales with some decent lootage. Redoran in Vanilla is similar, though trhats one faction. Rewards suck but you find the good stuff along the way.
>A random Seyda Neen guard just decides to fuck off out of the villageI've never seen them go this far. For a minute I thought he was a quest mod NPC I forgot I installed.
>>746668520I hated how the Court Wizard somehow lived OUTSIDE OF THE CASTLE IN A REGULAR HOUSE for some reason.
>>746665758Nigger you are lying out of your ass
Non thief class to make khajiit? What's less of an uphill battle
>>746670543Why, what's wrong w that
>>746647196just give that twat who sells +5 atlethics ring and get his home instead.
>>746671094#Justice4Vodunius
>>746665758There is a Skyrim thread up right now that has no mention of any of this.You want to know why? Because the schizo only cares about Morrowind. Or rather his hate for morrowind.
>>746671062the court wizard should live in the castle because he's a member of the *court*, usually in some less important tower somewhere
>>746650407>Imperial tools
>>746671456Wizards can teleport. Wizards can live anywhere they want. (He said to himself, out loud.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZbK--FCu4
>>746669840The best quest in OE's mages guild was the one with the fucked up backrooms style part of the guild hall. Is that still in?
>>746668520all the shit they did in this update due to their sudden weaponized obsession about the spirit of vanilla has damaged any hype i had for the future of this mod, especially if they keep sucking the soul of other "too good for its own good" quests.
Should i download "Morrowind Enhanced Textures" and "Normal Maps for Everything"?
>>746669409>>746672628Bal Foyen is slated for the chopping block tootoo "moddy"
>>746645378Not enough DLSS5.Add another layer.
>>746670443
>>746653578Do you know how much work that would have to go into a Morrowind Remaster to make it palatable for the modern audience™?
Another artifact found
>>746653479Does Todd even pay attention to anything Morrowind wise? According to trainwiz when they talked he wasn't aware of anything going on with OpenMW or MWSE
>>746673463>artifactNot an artifact (yet), that's a dreugh cuirass.
>>746672520>Yeah, this questline, made by the wonderful Rats, is often lauded as one of our best. If you like that kind of style, the Andothren TG is also made by him, as is Andothren's Fighters Guild, Akamora's Fighters Guild, parts of Almas Thirr's Temple questline, and the complex non-faction quest Shadows Under Aimrah (in Aimrah). He's done many others beside this, such as the simpler miscellaneous quests in the Roth-Roryn wilderness.>We do get a bit of criticism over this questline and the like -- it certainly isn't as conducive to roleplay as vanilla's simpler and more terse questlines and it does railroad you a little bit. Certainly it doesn't mesh well with our stated ideal of appearing a seamless extension of vanilla content. So we prefer a style a little closer to vanilla Morrowind for our newer content, but one that still has more narrative depth (or at least, more easily visible narrative depth) than most vanilla faction questlines.https://www.reddit.com/r/Morrowind/comments/1eblbxh/i_just_finished_old_ebonhearts_tg_and_i_continue/the devs have go insane
>>746673541(the answer is yes, the quest he's asking about is, in fact, still in the game. the anon I'm replying to is trying to imply otherwise without overtly lying)
>>746673464Nah, judging by Bruce Nesmith's interview earlier this year the higher ups at Bethesda generally seem to think of Morrowind as an utterly outdated relic of a game and don't even really consider the possibility of it still being popular
>>746673463>Tamriel RebuiltAnother way to say subhuman.
>>746673690i was not replying to his question you fucking idiot. i started to dig the rumor about quests getting dumbed down because i don't trust the local schizo and i found this. if they really think leaving shitty quest is good and doing good quest is bad that is bad for the whole project not just 1 particular quest shitstain
>>746673464Todd doesn't pay attention to anything and the most you'll get from them is OpenMW having to promise they won't do anything official to port the game to Android or other mobile apps, basically.I mean for god's sake they usually offer morrowind up for free during its anniversary.
>>746673541i am 100% sure this psychosis was created by backlash from retards getting softlocked in the narsis MG finale because they don't save manually
>>746673463
>>746673971>I mean for god's sake they usually offer morrowind up for free during its anniversary.Only happened once.
>Indoril finaleWHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
>>746673464Todd no, but Bethesda's legal department didhttps://wiki.openmw.org/index.php?title=Bethesda_Emails
>>746674421the game still goes on sale frequently for peanuts
>>746673463Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Armor.>>746674274I would have never thought that Vivec's shield from the designs could be so great.
>>746673971Where is that screenshot taken?
Map mods?
>>746672628go play beyond skyrim then
>>746673971>>746674530Don't you need to own Morrowind to even run OpenMW? Why are they so hesitant on a mobile port?Glossing over the fact playing morrowind on a phone sounds like CBT.
>>746674690no thanks, i played bruma and it was shit
>>746674667Vivec, with mods.
>>746674817I don't remember VIvec being like that.
>>746674848That's what the mod is for.
>>746674457>pay money to kick Hlaalu outThe jews of Morrowind
>>746674904I don't remember Vivec having Dwemer's lamps.
>>746674457you could give them money? i just murdered themlike fuck i'm giving money to hlaalu, that's a win for them
>>746673541>>746674690Or Oblivion which apparently these """""Morrowind"""""" mod devs prefer to their own game.
>>746675152>we want to make quests that fit with the original gameuh based department?
>>746675152>Top 1% CommenterAlso known as "I live in Reddit posting my dogshit opinions, disregard anything I say".
is vivec rebuilt real or is it like argonia and will be made after literally everything else
job well done boys
I like Hlaalu and Telvanni.Hlaalu are the ultra jew of doom that are equal opportunistic.Telvanni are insane, neet, murderous, archmage motherfucker.Redoran are just knights, they are nice, but that's all they have.Of course, it makes killing Redoran all the harder, since they are nice, while Hlaalu and Telvanni are always satisfying to kick down, especially Telvanni.
>>746675337this looks hideous
>>746675337me on the left
>>746675337What am I looking at, what are those mods, why does that hunger had blowjobs lips, why is that skeleton so weird
>>746673541>the devs have go insaneIndeed, how do they dare to try to fit seamlessly with vanilla the mod that is supposed to fit seamlessly with vanilla.
I don't want Morrowind quests to be like Oblivion, but also vanilla Morrowind quest design was usually pretty dogshit with few exceptionsThere needs to be a middle term where the quests are more involved but not too cinematic
>>746675334>will be made after literally everything elseThat's no longer the case for Argonia, which is under PT jurisdiction now and thus the only thing keeping it from starting development is a self-imposed rule of not letting new PT projects happen until Hammerfell and High Rock release something
>>746675503>a self-imposed rule of not letting new PT projects happen until Hammerfell and High Rock release somethingThat's a good thing.
>>746675337>that hunger
>>746675337
>>746675501I found the narsis quests pretty good. They are morrowind-style quests but a bit more complicated and creative.
>>746675494see>>746675501>>746675503>self-imposed rule of not letting new PT projects happen until Hammerfell and High Rock release somethingDafuk? Why?
>lord of the rings did irreparable damage to the elder scrolls franchise>dune? what's that?
>>746675619there's less aspects of dune in morrowind than there are lotr in oblivion
>>746673940The old ebonheart thieves' guild is literally less conducive to role play, though. There are moments that railroad the player unnecessarily. You could have the exact same questline, but without that and it would be objectively better.
>>746675598because the dev teams for the rest of PT have become so diluted some projects are drying up, like SHOTN
>>746650407>ywn experience snuggling with your Khajiit waifu around a campfire while her Masser and Secunda are on full display and you feel her warm and hairy body firmly around yours, while picking up a slightly sweet and smelly note of her muskwhy even live
>>746675598I guess it's because y'know, you don't wanna stretch your guys too thin nor have 4-6 projects in eternal dev hell as a result due to a lack of necessary manpower
>>746675337Every time I knock a hunger out of fatigue I get ear raped
me and bro standing outside cat catchers because we dont give a fuck
>>746675702doing shitty fetch quests is even less conductive to rping
>>746675152>muh rpthese people would celebrate a slave questline where you do nothing but pick up crops all day
>>746645378>decide to boot openmw back up after a year or so>gpu overheats can barely gen 40-50 framesmy distant lands is only like 20 cells and I was able to run like 10x that before without it harming fps, the fuck happened? cia niggers fucking with my goddamn morrowind so I cant play poison song?
>Ordinators send you to the Ghostgateneat
>>746675680Concepts ripped from Dune by Morrowind>great houses>morag tong>ashlanders>the entire main quest plotConcepts ripped from LoTR by Oblivion>uh... the ayleid and deadlands architecture?
>>746676443nvm changing the resolution in openmws launcher plus enabling vsync returned it to baseline. that was funky. rolling for my race while Im at it, 0 Farm Tool 1 Farm Tool with fur2 Dunmer3 Filthy Altmer4 Breton5 Imperial6 Nord7 Orc8 Nigger9 Bosmer
>>746676760Imagine being retarded enough to think any of those is ripped directly from Dune
>>746677395>no argument
>>746677504sorry what was yours?oh right, you have none
>>746676203Wrong. You are canonically a fetcher in universe.
To all the people worried about quest simplification, I will point out that the current philosophy has been in place for long enough that all of the questlines for Abecean Shores, Grasping Fortune and on were developed with it in mind. That's the intended level of simplicity. If you liked those, you're going to be fine with future quests. My preemptive condolences to people who really like Rats' questlines, though.
>>746679306>to people who really like Rats' questlines, though.the majority of the mod fanbase?
Ordinator questline was alright overall.High skill requirements for leveling up, but I didn't feel like any of the quests currently implemented really warranted it.
opinions on poison song overall?
>>746677395>He saw David Lynch's Dune in theaters on its opening day and claims that it influenced all of his writing thereafter,[73] including Morrowind.[3] Kirkbride has pointed to Dune's concept of Kanly as an inspiration for the Morag Tong,[17]Get raped.
>>746680001it's alright
>>746680001it's mediocre
>>746680023I see the word inspiration used here, I assume you know what that means but you might not. Now can you tell me the difference between ripped off and inspiration. I'll wait.
>>746680001To me it just seemed like a small update to tie over fans till the next big expansion. But I really fucking hate how it broke compatibility with PC and SHOTN. Also PC and SHOTN still haven't been updated to the latest version of Tamriel_Data for some God forsaken reason.
>>746680001I like the look of the Indoril areas.Quests for Indoril are poorly written, Ordinators are just kinda meh.Blacklight waiting room.
After 35 hours of playing the game for the first time i have concluded several things about the game:>Morrowind is unfinished as fuck. Like Jesus christ almost a third of the skills in the game do fucking nothing at all.>Over half the dungeons in the game have nothing in them except a few NPCs.>Mines have no point to exist, at all.>To further emphasize how unfinished the game is, there are typos absolutely fucking everywhere.>You will eventually break the game by complete accident>Personality and Luck attributes could be deleted from the game wholesale and nothing would change outside of a few text boxes.>Even if you're actively trying not to, you are eventually going to get overleveled and curb stomp everything.>Every playthrough is eventually just going to turn into a alchemy/conjuration focused run because they are absolutely broken with no balance.>While the world is unique and kind of psychedelic it is by far the most boring region of the 3 3D TES games. Once you've seen the Bitter Coast, the Ashlands and the Ascadian Isles, you have seen the entire game outside of a few dungeons since 90% of your time is going to be spent in those regions since that's where everything is.>Traveling in this game is retarded and anyone who complains about fast travel in later games but says this game does it good is a retard. Even if you choose not to use the spells, you can just make a fortify speed potion and run across the entire continent in less than 3 minutes.Overall 4/10 game. Extremely and obviously unfinished. I see the potential for it to be good but outside of that, I do not understand the praise and cult following it has. It is just as broken and casual as Oblivion and Skyrim.
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>>746680269>many devs work on all three projects>never bothered to mention that PS was releasing soon>never bothered updating the PT mods in preparation for PS release
>>746680462thanks for your opinion and bumpyou can leave the thread now and browse the many other threads this board has to offer.
>>746680560Yeah. It's utterly baffling. To me, Poison Song's release felt rushed as shit.
>>746680125>I'll waitI bet you will lmao
>>746680560SHOTN is probably because everyone working on that is very focused on trying to get Markarth Side out this year or early next year. PC was probably just in their own bubble though, they're moving at a good pace with exciting stuff.
>>746680695Is that image referring to you? I agree.
>>746656648>explaining what the game is and what you do in it for hoursdogshit genre of youtube video
>>746680695took you that long to come back with this weak shit?
Why does Kagrenac's Library have all The real barenziah books?
>>746680895the ash vampires got bored and needed reading material and it doubles as erotica
>>746680574I want to talk about the game tho
>>746680895he's become an incel
>>746680895Dagoth is very interested in what the Dunmer have been doing
>>746680462>Mines have no point to exist, at all.The glass and ebony mines sure as hell have a point. It's a good source of gold, or you can take the materials to Mournhold to have Glass and Ebony armor made.>Personality and Luck attributes could be deleted from the game wholesale and nothing would change outside of a few text boxes.This is wrong. As someone who did multiple pacifist runs of the game, high personality can make it to where most hostile NPCs in the game will become passive and friendly to you. Also this is the only way to gain access to a few master level trainers in the game. Luck at high levels is absolutely insane. No enemies can land a blow on you, and you're basically guaranteed to make them stagger with each hit. It's clear you truly do only have 35 hours in game, because only a absolute noob would have shit opinions like this.
>>746681016why? the last post made it pretty clear you have little understanding of it.
>>746680462You disingenuous piece of fucking shit.
RPing as a khajiit slave mining ebony for my dunmer masters
>>746657059its important to remember that kirkbride isnt the only guy at the table, though he's certainly one of the loudest of the weirder onesfrom an in-character interview about the land of morrowind in 1999 alongside ken rolston:>Ah. I will tell you the truth, because you will believe none of it. The Brass God is Anumidum, the Prime Gestalt. He is also called the divine skin. He was meant to be used many times by our kind to transcend the Gray Maybe.>The first to see him was the Shop Foremer, Kagrenac of Vvardenfell, the wisest of the tonal architects [Mechanists – MN] Do not think as others do that Kagrenac created the Anumidum for petty motivations, such as a refutation of the gods. Kagrenac was devoted to his people, and the Dwarves, despite what you may have read, were a pious lot-he would not have sacrificed so many of their golden souls to create Anumidum’s metal body if it were all in the name of grand theater. Kagrenac had even built the tools needed to construct a Mantella, the Crux of Transcendence. But, by then, and for a long time coming, the Doom of the Dwarves marched upon the Mountain and they were removed from this world.
>>746681076Why in the world would you want to do a pacifist run in a game like this. I mean you are literally just playing a walking simulator at that point.As far as luck goes, staggering doesn't mean shit when you are oneshotting everything in the game by lvl 15 with a bounded weapon.
>>746681203>bounded
>>746681203>Why in the world would you want to do a pacifist run in a game like thisbecause it's fun. It's not my, or the game's fault you're a joyless fag that can't roleplay.>As far as luck goes, staggering doesn't mean shit when you are oneshotting everything in the game by lvl 15 with a bounded weapon.How about moving that difficulty slider up, little buddy? Don't tell me you kept it in the middle for the whole game.
>>746676760Dune is a cool setting. Lord of the Rings is not a cool setting. Simple.
>>746681457It is tho. Particularly the book version, which is an early medieval/migration period setting where everybody wears chainmail and scale armor, which isn't something you see much in fantasy.The Peter Jackson movies on the other hand are kinda boring imo, but it's not really their own fault, it's just oversaturated.
>>746681457LoTR is deeper and more cohesive than Tamriel
>>746681319The slider does nothing but make the enemies damage sponges and do more damage. That's not difficulty, that's called stat inflation. Also that wouldn't matter anyway because a lvl 50 alchemy skill is more than enough to craft a single fortify str potion and continue to one-shot everything. The game is just really unbalanced and inflating numbers does nothing since you can immediately counter it.
>>746681889And?
>>746681457LoTR is a great setting, it's just that Oblivion, which is trying to pander to fans of the movies, is a very crappy cardboard cutout version of it.
>>746681976How would you make the game more difficult?
>>746681996Wrong. Pulp fantasy, bronze age sword and sorcery will always be better than gay tolkien bullshit.
>>746681889No it's not. The map isn't even complete.
>>746682053That wasn't a comparison between LoTR and Conan, dummy.
>>746682087Vs.
>>746682008Well for starters, don't give the player access to near endgame level damage and spells within the first 45 minutes of the game because...well I mean what the fuck do you think the player is going to do when you do that? Not use the absolutely broken endgame shit that you hand to them on a menu screen?Frankly I feel like each college of magic should just be locked until you move and progress through a certain faction related to that magic and also str and end limits on the weapons and armor.
>>746681976>make the enemies damage spongesThe only way for status effects to have any relevance is to increase enemy health. There's no reason to impose any penalties or distract them with summons when it's easier to just smash them over the head with a big sword or blast them with a supernova.
>>746682162>wahhhh I'm a brownoid monkey with no self control!!!!!>take away all the options in the game because I can't not use them!!!!!!!!!Saar please do the needful and drown yourself in the Ganges
>>746682106Dune is a pulp fantasy setting, anon. The comparison is between Dune and Lord of the Rings. The former is cool, the latter is not.
>>746682162What game breaking spells are you getting in the first 45 minutes? people who claim Morrowind is so easily breakable are almost always faggots that look up item locations and exploits to break the game. It's honestly pathetic.
>>746682162>don't give the player access to near endgame level damage and spellsWhy is increasing the amount of damage enemies can take by limiting equipment/spells different than by adjusting player damage via the difficulty slider?
>>746680462excellent bait
>>746682375>Dune is a pulp fantasy setting, anon.What in the everliving fuck is your faggot ass smoking?
>>746682156All of this except Tamriel and Yokuda is fanfic senpai. We know those places exist (except Aldmeris) but don't like we have a real map of any of them except Tamriel and Yokuda.
>>746682375Dune is scifi.
>>746682156Nirn outside of Tamriel is only slightly more well-developed than Arda outside Middle-Earth/Numenor/The Undying Lands though
>>746682260>>746682378>>746682474>Walk to Balmora from Seyda to go sight seeing and collect alchemy ingredients because I'm trying to roleplay as a mage.>Get to Balmora and go to the alchemist shop>Endgame tier alchemy stuff literally just sitting in a crate that you can just easily steal from.>"Sure why not?">Never worry about stats again>Go to the Mages guild in the same city>Buy the Bound weapons and armors spells (I'm a mage.)>Turns out all of that is rated on the same level as deadra weapons>I did all of this, unintentionally within the first 2 hours. I had to look up the wiki to understand why I was oneshotting everything at max difficulty and I was lvl 5.Now explain to me how any of this was my fault. I was literally being extra nice to the game and refusing to fast travel until I realized that it just didn't matter anymore.
>>746682731>i looked up where the easily accessible items to break the game areWe know
Speaking of other continents, what do you think about the TRverse's Akavir being inhabited entirely by beast races themed around the chinese zodiac animals? In my opinion, it's kind of really fucking silly, but at least it's much better than the idea of having them all be asian humans that got twisted into animal people by word of mouth like all the redditors desperately want it to be for some unfathomable reason, so it gets a pass.
>>746682927have you never read any material on Akavir in any of the games
>>746682851I actually didn't, which is what I'm trying to point out. I did literally the most sensible thing anyone would do.
>>746682927Also, lmao at this
>>746682503What are you having trouble with? It's about space psychics on drugs riding giant worms. You can't get much more pulp fantasy than that.
>>746683007Yeah. It's described as being inhabited entirely by beast races and one extinct race of men in the main book, but a different book claims that the Tsaesci ARE men, which people use to support the argument i complained about. Also, it's heavily implied that the Tsaesci are shapeshifters. So what?
>>746682573It is also pulp fantasy.
>>746682927I simply think there's too many of them. I'm fine with the Ka Po and Tangmo, I think the Tsaesci should look more like lamia than Yuan-Ti Abominations (their lore is literally them looking kinda like the men of Akavir still but also them having snake tails, this art fails to depict that,) I'm fine with the Kamal having animal features but think it should be some chimaeric 'demonic' mix rather than just being water buffalo like they're in some art, and the dog and rat people are alluded to in canon so they're fine too. But we don't need like 6-8 MORE animal people after that to try and fill out some zodiac theme, that's more major races than fucking Tamriel has. Give yourself like 2 or 3 sapient races to play with beyond the canon 6 (not counting the humans) and move on, don't over-stuff the continent with nobodies.
>>746681990And that makes it cooler.>>746682087Why would LoTR need a "complete" map? The fact that it focus on a specific region instead of thowing every uninspired region like other generic settings it what makes it deeper.
>>746683250>And that makes it cooler.No, it doesn't. "Depth" is what dorks think is cool. Actually cool people think getting high on cat drugs and riding bugs is cool.
>>746683214According to the wiki the rabbit people and the horse people are also extinct, so it is kinda just 3 additions to the 6 canon ones
>>746682731You were level 5 in the first 2 hours and you really expect me to believe you weren't exploiting the game? I bet you were spam selling potions too and abusing the restocking to get the money for this shit. Ridiculous.
>>746683403Well, I still think the zodiac theme feels forced.
it's not like akavir is ever going to get made anyways so no sense crying over spilt punnavit
>>746683372Ok so you're just another retarded baiter no-lifer. You never read Dune and don't know anything about TES either.
>>746683427Lvl 5 in two hours is piss easy if you just do the Balmora Mage's guild quest unless you're just not using the trainers. Are you sure you've even played this game because now I'm starting to question if you have.
>>746683583Sounds like something someone who looked up how to level quickly before playing would say
>>746683583Nigger you do not have the money for 4 fucking trainer level ups at the start and the mages guild gives you fuck all for money. You are lying out of your ass.
>>746683583>unless you're just not using the trainers
>>746683536Disagreement isn't bait, anon. Lord of the Rings is a fine enough series, but the setting is basic as shit. It's standard fantasy fare. And it might lay claim to being the reason it's particular brand of fantasy is the standard, but that really makes no difference to me.
>>746683250>Why would LoTR need a "complete" map?Elder Scrolls did it. Why would you not want a complete world?
>>746684014Elder Scrolls did not do it.
>>746683250The LOTR map exists solely for the story, the Elder Scrolls map exists outside of the story. It's a more cohesive and well developed fantasy world.
>>746684074?
>>746684148That's not a complete map anon
>>746684074They haven't. Most maps in Morrowind are barebones with no information in them and some even got simplified and turned into shit like Skyrim. Oblivion is the most detailed map but it removed many of the cultural differences presented previously.
>>746684203Yes it is stupid, it's a complete landmass. Unlike >>746682087 which is nonsensical.
>>746684254Shut up retard I'm not talking to you
>>746683583>unless you're just not using the trainersAnd there it fucking is. I know what you did. You looked up how to abuse alchemy, made a shit ton of gold, use the gold to spam the trainers, and now you're bitching that the game is boring because you went out of your way to make yourself overpowered by level five. You played yourself, dumbass. You optimized the fun out of your playthrough. You did this to yourself.
>>746684286Complete landmass but not a complete world. Both are showcasing a continent within a wider world.
>>746684350Middle Earth isn't a full continent though. Continents are surrounded by water.
>>746684469Like Europe?
>>746684504Europe is just a penninsula of Asia
>>746684578and Africa?
>>746682087That's not the full map tho
>>746684609separated from asia by the suez now
>>746684578What about the Americas?
>>746684667one continent split into 2 by the panama canal
>>746684654A man made construction...So Africa only recently became a continent. I see.
>>746684645Looks like testicles
>>746684736yes, man's hubris will be punished in due time.the day of judgement is coming.
Why haven't PC and SHoTN updated yet? Are the devs on strike?
>>746685350grok is having trouble reading TD
>>746685350I wish they would hurry up. I got used to casually leaving Morrowind for Skyrim on occasion, and now being locked to Morrowind feels wrong and limiting.
