>just turned FallIt's time for a replay neonate.
>>746656117What kind of barbarian thinks we change season before the equinox?
>playing malk for the 4th timeNo, it's time to STOP.
>only 10,000 copies solddead meme game
>>746658536
>>746658903Ohhhh myaaaaaaaaaan
>>746656117it's not fall until the 23 of this month
>>746656117I just got TFN mod for some """fresh content""" even though 90% of that freshness seems to be just some new music and some innovative ways to suffer in hardcore modeMod seems to really, really want you to invest heavily in haggling, firearms and/or hacking as they drastically reduced cash rewards and upped the price for skill books which no longer seem to be found in the wild ... new clans is an interesting concept but only 2 of them are viable w/o cheats, the rest are just suffering for those hyper-bored of vanillathe new outfits are nice I guess. assamite girl is a poster child for 90s sex appeal
>>746658536Which timeframe are you talking about
>>746659152new gemmy geeg
>>746659346TFN has a lot of good ideas on how to fix some of VTMB's questionable balance, but they're not very well executed and tend to just add tedium to the gameplay loop.
>>746658903Kek
Please Remember that Caine promised LA to the Tremere 3000 years ago.
>>746660462The Tremere only came to be during the Middle Ages after they usurped the Salubri akhshully, they aren't even children of Caine
>>746660462Oh yeah, now I remember! It is true, Cain DID promise.
>>746659152I was there. I kekked out loud.
NEED ghoul
>>746656117>In Bloodlines, the Ventrue is the unreasonable asshole and the Tremere is the reasonable Cammie establishment guy>On the tabletop it's usually the other way aroundWeird.
>>746661564>On the tabletop it's usually the other way aroundSince when? Ventrue are always the assholes.
>>746658903jerma?
>>746656117>still summer>OP is a faggot
>>746661664This. The way the Ventrue diablerized their way into vampiredom. Or the way they experimented on their fellow Cainites to create Gargoyles until they had to hide and beg for the Camarilla to protect them. Just nothing but cowardly unreasonably pussies those Ventrue.
>>746659346I came so much to this girl goddamn.
>>746661664By vampire standards Ventrue are pretty reasonable usually. They're one of the only clans that actually bothers with a pretense and justification for why they should be in charge (noblesse oblige). Some clans even mock the Ventrue for having a "martyr complex", for the idea that they as leaders should sacrifice something or bear the weight of the crown. They're not good people, no clan of vampires is unilaterally, but they're usually the reasonable lawful evil you can make a deal with and who won't give you much shit if you just bend the knee. There's always exceptions and some real fuckass bluebloods, like LaCroix. But it is interesting how the most famous VtM story goes against the grain with how it depicts a few key clans.
>>746661564Vampires are still individuals. Yes, even the Tremere
Gonna play malk for the first time ever. What am I thinking about it?
>>746662678a lot of things
>>746662678You're thinking,>I'm gonna be a bitch and reload my save after picking the wrong dialogue choice."
This game has dissappointingly little R34 videos.
>>746662678POWER IN MISERYTRAVERSING THE GRID OF DEATH
>>746656117>>just turned FallNo it didn't.
>>746662967Don't open what?>>746663208Finally someone speaking my language.
>VTMB
Pretty ironic that the Kueijin are closer to actual vampire folklore than the Cainites who are 90% pop culture.
>>746663354>ministryI thought it was Massive Attack
>>746663431Massive Attack's "Angel" was removed from the final product. Ministry wrote a song for the game that you can't hear in the Confession club because the sound effects are too low (without you editing the config).
>>746660325huh, playing as the Salubri and saving otherwise lost characters is pretty fun, even tho some cause Masquerade violationslikewise is robbing kindred, an actual use for the hacking feat>>746662043aww
>>746662097>But it is interesting how the most famous VtM story goes against the grain with how it depicts a few key clans.Well, even the tabletop iconic character already went against the grain. The nicest VtM iconic is actually Aisling Sturbridge, who is actually the most level-headed, reasonable and polite vampire you'll come across. And she's a fucking Tremere. Jan Pieterzoon on the other hand is a complete opposite of how a Ventrue should behave, starting as a lowly thug at first.So the nuance was always there.
>>746663868holy shit!!
Well, that was fast.
>>746662678schizokino
Just finished the game and apparently it seems I missed a shitload of stuff.I saw a video here where you can fight a wereshark with an Asian girl companion? Was that a mod?And also you can have other havens?Sucks because I played a Tremere and completely missed the Tremere one.
Is it true that the Oblivion discipline will make you evil no matter what? Even if you were an honorable guy that got randomly turned by a passing Lasombra for some reason? Is it nature or nurture?
>just turned Fall>still 90 degrees out
>>746664159Asian girl is in the vanilla gameYou can have another haven in skyline apartments if you kissass lacroix and dont fuck up elizabeth danealso nosferatu get a unique haven
>>746664159You gotta take your time with this game neonate. Explore every building, every corner.
>>746664159>And also you can have other havens?Yes, you have special havens if you are a Tremere or a Nosferatu. Getting a Tremere haven requires you to not to be a dick to Strauss and to finish his Gargoyle quest in a way that benefits him (kill the Gargoyle and don't spill the beans to Isaac).As for Nos, I have no idea, because I never got that far.
>>746664308If you are a Tremere/Nos, LaCroix will never grant you the Skylines haven. He's racist like that.And it's actually VERY difficult to miss the Skylines haven, unless you go out of your way to be a dick to LaCroix.
>>746664229What you are asking is a V5 lore. V5 lore is retarded and we don't speak of it.
>>746664229>Is it true that the Oblivion discipline will make you evil no matter whatI think its one of those "gaze into Abyss, if gazes back" kinda thing
>>746664618Yeah most of V5 lore is retarded, but I like that they connected obtenebration with Oblivion from Wraith. I think it fits better than having a different abyss to further muddy the waters of the WoD setting.
>>746660769>The Tremere only came to be during the Middle AgesIt's very Anti-Hermetic to claim the modern clan of Tremere somehow "stole" their current identity. Any respectable historian will tell you Tremere descend directly from the most ancient of bloodlines.
>>746664229No, it's the Tziggers that are made ontologically evil because of their special discipline.Lasombra are evil because almost all of them are put through a life-ruining humiliation ritual as the prelude to their embrace. They do this because they don't want any "weaklings" who let things like all of their loved ones vanishing break them in the clan. One example character was made a paraplegic by a car crash at his future sire's behest, only embracing him because she saw the sheer bitter hatred in his eyes as he climbed out of that wreck. >>746665336Fuck you nigger, the abyss is kino.
>>746665590No fuck you, it's stupid to have the abyss when you already have oblivion, the wraith labyrinth, the werewolf labyrinth, arcadia and god knows how many other dimensions. Come on, the shadowlands even have the storm and sea motif to fit with the Lasombra stereotype of being sailors.
>>746665590mmm Sweety the Tzimisce just have protean. Nothing evil about that.
>>746665819I don't give a shit about any of those games. The evil shadow tentacle dimension is cool, sit and spin faggot.
Did uhh anyone play the new VTM game?Was it good?
>>746665819Whoa it's almost if mixing settings was a retarded idea!
>>746665987Womp womp
>>746664229I think it's more about Paranoia because the more you learn anout the Abyss the more you start to learn there is scary shit lurking in every corner
>>746666121but that's wrong
>>746665819>Muh multiverseTaking this shit too deeply ruins all of the settings. The only thing a VTM player needs to know about Garou is that they're scary.
>>746666072which one lol
>>746666202Well, enjoy your three different abysses then, faggot.
>>746666121There's a reason everyone knows VtM, but the rest of WoD is obscure as hell.I am being completely honest when I say I would happily erase every other oWoD line from existence if given the opportunity.
>>746666307If we count the Kuei Jin there can be even more abysses.
>>746666307I will. Extradimensional realms work in mysterious ways
>>746666328Hunter (Not the gay super powers one) and Werewolf is an okay crossover with VTM. Mage is interesting but are so busted that a Crossover is a bad idea. Changeling, Demon, Mummy and Spirit are all pretty gay
>>746666328>I would happily erase every other oWoD line from existenceI'd keep them as standalone games in self-contained settings. Maybe add some easter eggs, like if you're playing Werewolf the wyrm aligned vampires have powers resembling VtES disciplines but that's all.>>746666405Oh fuck, I forgot about the chinks! Guess my social credit score is tanking.
What even is the original demon about? I like the CofD one where you're an eldritch Nihei style robotic horror pretending to be a human.
Chinatown is such a cool area, shame the Kuei-Jin are by far the weakest part of the game. It's not surprising at all to me that all the cool shit in Chinatown does not directly involve them.
>>746656117I wish I could make it feel fresh again somehow. Best I can do is getting other people to play it for the first time so I can live vicariously through them screaming at Ocean House, swearing in the sewers and getting their asses handed to them by Ming Xiao while playing some smooth talker character.
>>746666857paradise lost fallen angels that have been locked in the sensory deprivation chamber for 10k yearsyou possess some suicidal loser's body and try to get back in big G's good graces or embrace being an evil dickbag
>>746659152>implying le commie ally Anarch would ever say a hecking slur
>>746662967>this was made in 2014Haha>tfw I played Bloodline on release (yes I cheated to evade the bug in the nosferatu caves)
>>746664286That's climate change for you.
>>746667806i thought the term was global warming2 more weeks til the ice caps melt right?
>>746662967I miss these people
>>746664286>>746667806Why we just don't buy AC for the Sun? Is the Sun Yuropean?
>>746667806Why would the Camarilla allow this?
>>746668081More people hang around outside at night if its warm out longer
>>746663789they nailed the turbo-smart german librarian pretty girl look down to a t
>>746667926Glaciers are already melting left and right, so yes, ice caps will melt before AI gets good or (you) have sex.
>>746668081>implying it's not the wyrm doing this
>>746668224>he said nervously every day for the last 15 years
>>746668210>OMG I love Nerdy Girls
>>746668224Oh no not muh hecking glaciers!Strange how they keep finding shit from my ancestors the more they melt.
>>746658069This but gangrel, rip and tear
>>746668821>In all ways including physical, I am a wolf>[Barks softly]
>>746668704How's that strange? African glaciers were the first melting after all.
>>746669005lmao
>>746669186how do i get protean in real life
>>746669407beans, chicken, whey.
>>746669407Unprotected sex with dogs until you get rabies.
hey anon, what's your clan? i'm here to shitpost you. where are you at?
>>746667603Best I can do for you is rebalance the vanilla histories, champ.
>>746669046Too bad I'm in Norway, isn't it?
>>746668224
>>746669814You married their princess? Awesome!
>>746656117eeewwwwwturn on dlsss5 on that shit bro
>>7466561172 weeks ago I finished a Malkavian run, still awesome as always.
>>746666281I knew about bloodlines 2. Is there another? Are they good?
Bertram Tung tung sahur
>>746670956doin brujah runshits toughfeelin hella oppressed rngame is bullshit
>>746656117>ugly fucking graphics with retarded lighting and no AIwher dlss5?
Dammit
>>746666072No, it wasn't
does G*d hand over punishment to those who torture rape vampires in their basement
>G*dWe have an actual Tremere in this thread... God damn them!!
>>746672292In setting? God is not around. He legitimately gave up trying after Jesus
>>746672475He's still around in some of the Gehenna scenarios, at least
>>746672475>*burns your homosexual leech with the power of faith*Nothin personnel... gramps...
What's the opinion on Clan Quest mod?
>>746672909Fine for what it is. There are things about it that could be improved from an objective standpoint, but you'd have to be a contrarian to not appreciate what it set out to do and what it accomplished.
>>746672909Unstable, buggy and sucky, even for vampire standards.
>>746656117I wanna play it again but Im struggling to think of anything different I can do. Ive done 3 playthroughs, tremere malk and brujah. I have no interest in the rat fuckers. Whats the point? Im lusting for the game but its already done for me :(
>>746673063Have you played as a female yet?
>>746672869True Faith is actually totally seperate Phenomena from the active Will of God
>>746673208>"umm akshually guns dont kill people, people kill people" *dies from a gunshot wound to the brain*
>>746672909Mixed bag of highly variable quality. Some of the sidequests it adds are great, some suck. Most of the actual Clan Quests aren't great. Sabbat area is interesting, a little too much unused space, and ironically I think works better when played through as a Camarilla vampire. The Sabbat plot itself shits the bed towards the end. Worth playing at least once if you've gotten bored with the base game, but not a straight upgrade at all.
>>746673114on my malk yeah
>>746673502Oh in that case I guess there's nothing new for you to try :/
>>746673292Correct. God isn't killing any vampires. You're killing vampires with God.
>>746671952I never deleted it.
>>746661871>Ventrue diablerized their way into vampiredom>experimented on their fellow Cainites to create Gargoyles>Ventrue>Ventrue>Ventrue*Third eye quickly turning bloodshot red and bleeding blood quickly turning into steam"Gas the tremere clan war now
>>746674103shut up, rocky
>>746674152Playing a Ventrue is kind of tough in this game because naturally you want to side with the Camarilla but are you really going to bump off a member of your own Clan so a Tremere can become top dog? At least you're in the Sheriff position so you're essentially the face of the Camarilla in LA and first in line for Princedom if Strauss gets bored or gets bumped off. It's not as if it's a bad arrangement considering how dumb Lacroix is being but it does still leave a bad taste in your mouth.
1. What mod adds the most content to the game?2. What mod adds new clans with new disciplines?3. Lore question: Tremere, thorough their rituals, could emulate/copy/make their own version of each clan's disciplines? Wouldn't that make them the most powerful clan? I kinda like the idea of them developing an alternative to obfuscate. Imagine, having access to thaumaturgy, dominate and obfuscate.
>>746669568too many niggers sleep on beans. go to the store, buy ground beef, turkey, or chicken, whatever you want, take half meat, half beans, cook it up, toss in some homemade or store bought taco seasoning, and just eat that every single day. you'll get all your protein and fiber, you'll shit better than you ever had in your life, and you're cooking and eating times just disappear. do this, lift weights, do cardio, become primal.
>>746673063>give yourself max xp and just do whatever you want for fun>play the game while listening to full albums from the bands that were featured in-game>come up with an actual character to roleplay asSometimes you just have to try and do other things until you stop thinking about it so much though before coming back to it.
>>746674441also feel free to eat like a gay retard on the weekend as a treat.
>>746674310If it's any consolation, LaCroix doesn't give you the full Ventrue onboarding process. Despite the fact that his tasks would more than qualify for the trial, though not the education, part of the Agoge. He's just mildly friendlier to you. personally I think LaCroix is one of the many victims of the game's rushed production. The PC can't possibly know about the ethic of succor, or Dignitas, or any of that. So it's not like it's your fault when you take down a renegade who denied you your blood right.
Geist game when
>>746657370Kids who just started school
>>746667775When I played the game on release the tutorial got bugged and I never finished it.
>>746665336>I like that they connected obtenebration with Oblivion from Wraith.Doesn't this muddy the water since this isn't this what the Necromancy clans do?
>>746662139>Yes, even the Tremere>What is the pyramid for 500 Alex>I-i-its no longer a thing in the year 2006+ mostly>Totally ignoring 500++ years of slavery or forgetting about those in the sabbat or worse the crazy fucking blood brothers.
>>746659391The one made up in their head. VtMB sold close to 80k copies. It still wasn't great but it's a lot better than the 10k this retard made up and keeps repeating.
>>746658903What kind of monster would be an asshole to Knox?
For me it's Lasombra
>>746666328yiffing the furfaggotree is known as is hunter since its simple and fun
>>746674914all the necromancy disciplines and obtenebration were rolled into Oblivion and its amalgam powers with other discs in v5it doesn't really make any sense because v5 never cared about the metaplot for vtm let along wod
>>746675254is this still the case for V6 or did they somehow make it more fucked up?
>>746656117>disses the camarilla in your direction The fuck cammy gon do?
>>746659346I played it a few years back and had fun with Baali. Tremere with Obfuscate is nuts. I liked a lot of the things the mod did, like player dialogue options reflecting clan choice. I disliked a lot of other things, like how much EXP they removed from the game heavily promoting minmax strats and making the economy shitty. I wish it bad more actual new content.
>>746656117Norwood 23xinfinity reaper victim auraless bastard benchod.
>>746674152He's not wrong.
>>746675404we just don't know yet but guessing from the devs and initial info it is going to be absolutely GEHENNIC
>>746659346I wanted to play as the fat russian so I could sexo with venus :( the only sexo you can have is jeanette and (??) VV (????) and thats it. I cri every tiem :’(
>>746663559>he timed it wrong
>>746664159>he rushed itCome to think of it, the game can be kinda easy, and theres NO difficulty options. Maybe mods will fix it o algo
>>746674152le monkey
>>746669939Based and WESP pilledIs that fucking door style still in?
>>746671768Damn i didnt even know you could kill her wtf kindred
>>746674152What the FUCK was his problem? Find another movie theatre you fucking rock
Choose one to be your sire.
>Vampire: The Masquerade 6th edition was confirmed at Gen Con 2026 and will feature a completely new ruleset.Ha oh my fuck I thought people were just shitposting&memeing about V6. I dont even want to look into this let me guess they dumbed it down so much d&d babies could easily play it and they removed even more shit than in V5 while also completely further shitting on/throwin out old lore
>>746656117>just turned FallIt's actually spring in the civilized parts of the world.
>>746662967I would die for these peopleAlso, Hi Deb
>>746676040They have super autism its not hisfault dude was turned into a monster and barely has freewill his brain is beyond fried and is just above an animal.
>>746671768Lmao what happens in the quest if you do this?
>>746675404Yes they're reverting the Discipline merges and said something about Clans having further distinct Clan skills within Disciplines to add flavor even when there is overlap.
>>746676064Malkavian, now and forever.
The Prince was a fuckin retard and Im tired of pretending otherwise. You can't even properly roleplay as a pro-system bootlicker because of just how fucking retarded he was at every point. He never did a single fucking thing worthy of his station.
>>746676624>You can't even properly roleplay as a pro-system bootlickerSure you can. The Prince is being a retard and failing his obligstions to the System. Strauss helps you fix that
>>746676064Anything but Giovanni.
>>746676064NosferatuI'm not ready for anything to change
Ravnos kindreds use blush of life to shit everwhere so they can continue this ancestral Indian tradition
>>746676934Disregarding the Giovanni stuff, Vampire Blowjob must be pretty fantastic
>>746666857It's about being Confederate/Nazi veterans in a libtard world. Your side lost and you've paid a terrible price for losing, and side you fought for has been a synonym for ontological evil in the popular imagination. The world has since moved on so that the ideals you fought for(and against) are no longer relevant to anyone currently living. But the forces that beat you back then are now mysteriously MIA, and the world as you find it upon getting out of angel jail is more wide open and less defended than you dared to hope for. You can either embrace your bitterness over how things went down back in the day and take up your lost cause banner again or you can start the painful process of letting it go and moving on. Whatever choice you make, it will be complicated by the choices of your former comrades and the fact that you must spiritually parasitize humans in order to fuel your powers.
>>746676064i look at those beautiful lasombra lips and WISH her lips on my penis.but i choose toreador as my sirei love clan of rose
>>746677249The Jeetnos is a Camrilla psyop, they're romanis saar not jeets. *steps away from the computer to incessantly head bobble and obsess over BBC and seethe over 'timmies'*
>>746676064From pure Aesthetics for me it's Lasombra. But Toreador is a close second and seems like a way more enjoyable afterlife. I have enough of a nest egg I could use Presence to get a down payment on a Club or Bar or something then convince a bunch of hot skanks to keep coming which naturally would boost attendance.
>>746677372>>746677616Trannies detected. YWNBAV
For me? It's Salubri.
>>746677616Damn
>>746676298Why don't you play the game and find out, you stupid sack of shit?
>>746676064sigh... *unzips dick*
>>746672475Nah, He's there laughing Cain is too stubborn to admit he fucked up
>>746678310>laughingHe's seething
>>746678505Hey Cain, just accept your guilt and end this madness
Brujah:>"We're smokin' filtered crack, you stupid piece of shit. I'll fuckin' kill you."Gangrel:>"Motherfuckers live in their car and call it "van life". Stop lying to yourself and just say you're homeless, you stupid bum."Malkavian:>"I can feel the fungi munching on my brain, I'm sick."Nosferatu:>"I'm a product of the gutter, I'm a street creature."Toreador:>"I pluck the pubes off of my harem and smoke them with the gang up in the Hong Kong HSBC Tower while I wait for the transaction to go through."Tremere:>"I'm at Magic City moving like the government."Ventrue:>"I don't give a fuck if I go blind. I don't need to see the price tag anyway."Lasombra:>"Woke up in Geneva, oh man, I did it again, didn't I?"Tzimisce:>"My bitch look like David Hasselhoff."Assamite:>"Started off shooting dice in the cum slum; learned how to load the 9mm Canik and changed the trajectory of everything!"Settite:>"I threw diamonds at the strip clubs under the Great Pyramids. I pushed the camel through the eye of a needle. This shit ain't nothin' to me, man."Giovanni:>"I keep my Glock at the Vatican. She squirt on me, I love bein' covered in the chimichanga."Ravnos:>"I tapped that ass so good, she thought I was The Great Khali."
>>746673063have you already done a low humanity playthrough too?it's different. not by much, but different.
>>746675948>>746676298dude gets pissed off screeching why did you kill the bitch finding a new blood bag is going to be hard. With low humanity you can threaten him causing him to shit his pants and giving you a bunch of free blood and if I recall a discount forever.
>>746666072if you like to see more of the vtm world and don't mind VNs then the of new yorks games go between meh to decent. shadows of new york is considered the best one generallythe choice of games are basically CYOA books, there are four and the standout is generally considered to be night road and sin of sires is considered shit, the other two are good enough.Bloodlines 2 is not great sadly, only get it on a deep sale if you really care about more VTM or pirate it.Swansong sucked, it looks ugly as shit and is basically a bad telltale game.All of this to say that yeah VTM games post bloodlines are nothing amazing.
>>746678735Getting carried by Frenzy was pretty nutty to me. I didn't realize how strong it was until I went apeshit as a Gangrel and just raped everything until I found a neck I could latch onto.
>>746676064>Toreador, Lasombra, Banu Haqim, VentrueBuilt for cock slaps>Malkavian, SalubriBuilt for lovey dovey kisses>Brujah, Gangrel, Tremere, Ravnos, Ministry, MagarajaBuilt for aggressive tongue fucking>Nosferatu, Giovanni, Cappadocian, TzimisceRegret
>>746678643While I get the Lasombra one and these are pretty much set in stone at this point, I always preferred >"Last guy who ran off on the pack got choked out by some Givenchy gloves The last thing he ever saw was the price tag on them Slowly faded into darkness"Though the delivery on that line was kind of awkward compared to a lot of the best ones.
>>746678785NTA, but I consider Night Road to be vtmb2 basically. It felt like playing a game. Plus the setting with the desert and the SI especially when they attack your haven if you don't restore the masquerade, the boss fights, the disciplines, you can commit diablerie....so good.
>>746679087>Night RoadI never finished this because I got overwhelmed by the amount of choices.
>playing the game on release>take a elevator in the asylum>Isolated gets muffled as you go upWHOA FUCKING TECHNOLOGYSeriously my 12 year old self was impressed a lot by it. I had to ask my older cousin to sit with me during Ocean House because shit was too scary.
>>746679087Thanks for reminding me of this. I heard the writing and vibe was descent but I glossed over it the first time because it's pretty much a CYOA book and not a game. They could have at least added some backgrounds or something.
>>746679087>NTA, but I consider Night Road to be vtmb2 basicallyThat seems a bit of a stretch. Bloodlines is actually a video game, for one
>>746676064What's going on with Salubri? Why do they have the least vampirey fangs?
Any new content from the steam leaks?
>>746679727Well, for me, it felt like playing a game: tons of stat checks, inventory management, money management, blood points management, feeding, buying items, making a ghoul, choices and consequences (cool final sequence if you ally with the SI at the end), choosing where to sleep during the day while SI increased its patrols, buying a car, car chases and allowing you to use disciplines during chases (using obfuscate to become invisible with the car, using dominate to make the enemy driver crash into another pursuer etc.). Makes me wanna "play" again even though I finished it with every clan. The caitiff are better though as it allows you to start with 2 active disciplines IIRC.
>>746680048Guess it's to represent them being the most human/"good" vampire clan
Buy a watch
>>746680396>boring mary suesGot it
>>746680423I'll scream
>>746680048>most humane vampire clan, full of healer types + high humanity, empathetic to the point where it's a negative compulsion and they usually can't have ghouls of their own>they're also super delicious to other vampires>Tremere ate their sire so they pursue TOTAL BLOOD MAGE DEATH>they also got a third eye which other vampires think steal souls>all of the above is why they were driven to near extinction and why they're often Sabbat-aligned because of Camarilla ties to Tremere or Anarchs just simply not wanting to deal with them
>>746680502more like victimsiirc one their clan banes is that their blood is extra tasty
>>746680502The Mary Sues in VTM are Caitiffs and True Brujah
>>746680894>the guys who got their shit Tremere'd by the fucking Brujah are Mary Suesno.
>>746680894>True Brujahbarely relevant bloodline
>>746676064Gangrel or Nosferatu are probably the best clans to belong to. No politics and all of that bullshit, unless I'm forgetting lore. Gangrel just go innawoods and Nosferatu set up their sewer havens and play neutral for everyone. Besides Nos is just NEET mode
>>746681309>Gangrel just go innawoodsWerewolves>Nosferatu set up their sewer havens and play neutral for everyoneGlowniggers
>>746681490>WerewolvesReally not that common especially considering that WoD content is weirdly NOT connected, ie the werewolves in VtM are not the werewolves of the Werewolf series they have TECHNICALLY just so you can have more leeway in when and how you want to implement them in your games
>>746681026>>746681175timewalkers btw
>>746681591>he went camping
>>746656117https://voca.ro/19DqApVPh9CC
>>746681962And how does one deal with such a janny?
>>746682095https://voca.ro/1nZPQV8OjJPBGood evening saars
>"Oh, so you think Gangrel is a shit clan??"
>>746682451
Was there anything interesting in the steam leak about VTMB?
>>746680074>>746682984Doesn't seem like it. Not 100% certain yet but people are saying it's stuff added to the Steam version after the original release so it might be something like technical file changes rather than actual content.
>>746683445I haven't perused the data, but my understanding is that VTMB was so rushed all of its unfinished content is already within its shipped files. I can go into the documents right now and see data for planned Clan Tzimisce with notes by the actual devs around it. We can see CounterBite data. We can see the scrapped occult, animal ken, and athletics skills. We can see the scrapped mkv files for each clan having unique hands and unique interaction animations. Wesp has restored most of the content found in the files or alluded to by in-game info or screenshots.There's nothing more to discover about the game.
>>746681595Actually read what their discipline does dumbo, anyone 8th gen or under can at best pause time for a split second.
>>746681643>turn into a bird>fly away
>>746678939>RegretDepends on the nos
>>746683864I think some of the unused music was handed over by Rik. Other than that yeah it seems like what they actually had is mostly there. Unless you somehow get ahold of design documents there's probably not much left.
What do we think?https://www.moddb.com/mods/bloodlines-atmospheric-environmental-overhaul-baeo
>>746684984>You know what this Source game from the early 2000s needs?>ANTI-SOUL FOG
>>746684984why not just use dlss 5
>>746685104was gonna say this, seems like even random indoor areas are now foggy and it looks strange
>>746684984>Removing the fucking classical paintings and replacing them with AI slopBehead whoever made this.
>>746656117>just turned FallI don't think so, m8
>>746685468It's a warm autumn this year. Letting women have access to the internet so they can discover what an equinox is was another chip in the collapsing foundation of Western Civilization.
>>746661545This except an asian one
>>746685468It's still hot but the heat index is down a few degrees for me from the peak. Not a huge change but when the heat index is 110F with high humidity during the day and still in the 90s at night, just a drop of a few degrees makes it feel like summer is over already and is relieving.
>>746682984We did have Teyon accidentally pushing a dev version of their Hunter game to the Robocop release and people being able to download it for a bit. That's the closest thing to something exciting happening to VtM vidya and it's not even Vampire plus it's based on, Caine forgive me for uttering such a term, 5e.
>>746685604>It's a warm autumn this yearNo shit, Sherlock, it's been a warm autumn for the last decade, we had less than a dozen door knocks at Halloween last year it was so hot. Hold don't even fucking exist anymore
>>746676064Which of them could morph me into a cute femboy twink?
>>746684984Unnecessary. One thing base VTMD doesn't have is bad textures.
>>746686085It's kinda weird how Texas, last year, had 90F weather through September, and come December it froze over.
I would toil to maintain a 9 or 10 in humanity of Yukie asked me to.
>>746686348This is why you'll never achieve Golcanda. You're the vampire equivalent of a dude lifting at the gym to impress women.
>>746686438It's 'Golconda', anon. Clearly I'll achieve it before you will.
>>746686581I misspelled it on purpose to test your need to engage in petty behavior.
>>746686756The instigating of petty behavior is a far harsher sin, unenlightened one.
>>746686814"Let she who is without sin cast the fierce tone."
Can you instal DLSS 5 on VTMB? Game looks like ass frfr
>>746686348Areegato gozaymasheeta anon-coon
>>746686756ISOLATED
>>746681309>Nosferatu>no politicsthey are literally the camarilla CIA with shrecknet and shit
>>746686320>Made the mistake of letting my boss know I can drive in snow and ice>Texas gets one nasty day>I have to open my store>All of the pajeet stores in the neighborhood are closed>I have to deal with every shithead in the neighborhood>Phone ringing off the hook because people who had like a week of warning didn't stock up on Bud Ice beforehand and wanted to see if we were openThat shit sucked but Halloween last year made me jealous.>Actually kind of cold>Big moon>Friday
>>746686918VTMB is on DX9 nigga
>>746687009I got to experience Texans during their winter storm last year while on business. I've said it before and I'll say it again, "Proud Texans" are some of the fattest, most-entitled twats in the United States. They are limp-wristed, closeted queers, and fold like a cheap suit the moment they are physically challenged by someone. "I'M A GODDAMN VETERAN" is the war cry of the man who needs to beat his wife to feel virile. Holy FUCK do I hate "Proud Texans".>t. georgia gangrel gang
>>746687305>georgiaI would dust you for that alone.
>>746687656Start with the Californians, Coloradans, and Texans invading our great state first, if you don't mind. It feels like a Sabbat raid over here.
>>746687305Yeah I'm with you on that. The only reason I'm still here is because I'm from here and this is where all my stuff and my friends are. This place was much more tolerable when I lived in the middle of nowhere but Austin ate my town some time ago and since then the only thing that hasn't gone downhill is my cost of living.
>>746678969Nah for me its >Ops wanted some initiative, blew up their entire quadrant>I’m movin’ like Oppenheimer
>>746687825I have never in my life heard of anyone moving from Texas to Georgia. That simply doesn't happen.
>>746688307Native Houstonians don't pronounce the "H" at all. They are also very rare in modern nights because that city has been getting swamped with migrants nonstop since the 80s. Most people "from" Houston are originally from California or the Northeast, if they're even from America.
>>746674884
>>746656117doesn't feel like a very fall game honestlymore like a warm summer night, slightly humid and uncomfortable
>>746689040What do you think the weather is like Los Angeles in October you DUMMY
Is it a viable option to play as a silver tongued asshole with tons of charisma? Or will that result in me getting softlocked at some mandatory fight.
>>746678643Nagaraja>"Fuck it, I ate the opp."
>>746689143I've done it, and had fun doing it, and everyone called me a retard for doing it, but I hope you do it.
>>746689143It's doable but combat is still necessary. If you're doing side quests then you get enough XP points for both.>>746689228I'm not sure how many people actually do all the side quests but I could see someone struggling if they try to just mostly do the main quests. But you miss out on a huge portion of the game that way.
>>746666072pirate VTMB2, play through it, and then never play it again because there's zero reason to. It's worth it as an experience but not one for which TCR deserves any money.
>>746689143
>>746671768>couldn't resist the beast and went into frenzy at the sight of the white girl>not the vampire frenzy, the nigger one
hey hey people.is vtmb2 worth a pirate?.or is it just a waste of storage space and bandwidth.>>746664286you know you could just step out of the corner.
>>746689372>>746689228>>746689316Do you get to use social stats relatively often? Like almost every time you talk to important NPCs? Or is it one of those games where the devs put some charisma checks here and there because they expected the vast majority of players to go for a combat build.
>>746689372>devs intentionally designs the game where you have to fight>"modders" who want to be "true to the setting" disregard what the devs did and add shortcutswhat a bunch of fags...
>>746689604See >>746689356If they called it "Vampire the Masquerade: Nomad" the general consensus would be something like "okay but not great, fuck the flashback sections" but they went and called it bloodlines 2, so in light of the comparison it's lukewarm dogshit.Pirate it but play it in like early janurary when it's fuckass cold out and far enough away from christmas that the theming of the holiday shit in the game feels a little out of place.
>>746689141oh yeah, that makes sense
>>746689831Side quests give you more opportunities to use social stats but main quests still get them sometimes. There are still times where you can only fight/stealth for both though. You generally won't completely solve any main quests through social stats alone but you can sometimes in side quests.
>>746656117it's an October game chud
What is his fucking problem?
>>746689943I usually play it once around this time then still again around Halloween. I like it too much to wait.
>>746689831You benefit the most from mostly going social stats for the first two-thirds of the game and the rest is combat. One of my major beefs with the game is that "sneaky talky hackerman with guns" is VTMB's stealth archer build.
>>746689993the first chud.
>>746689143The game famously filtered people as you can get about 50% through sneaking and being social before it dumps you in a unskippable sewer full of gribbly monsters.Unofficial patches have changed it a bit AFAIK but regardless, you don't have to go all out but you should be skilling for at least some combat.
>>746689993In his mind he did nothing wrong. In one scenario God even recreates Abel only for Caine to whack him with the rock again.
>>746689841>meanwhile the source material actively incentivizes you to find creative ways to avoid constant battles and said battles are usually very brutal and short>meanwhile it's a slog in VTMB and turns into 90% of the content past Hollywood
>>746690060>In his mind he did nothing wrongI thought it was the opposite, that everyones forgiven him at this point but hes the only one still seething over what he did
>>746690050I'd say he was more the first fedora.
>>746689831Social stats are hugely important at the start of the game, lock out certain quests throughout the game, and can help you really, and I mean REALLY, understand certain NPC motivations while explaining more about the setting. There's people who will tell you one social stat is more important, or one is less important. Others will argue that the end of the game is too combat-heavy for socials to matter. They're mostly wrong. Doing a social build and a stealth build are both important to really figure out the depth of the story present in VTMB. You won't realize until after several complete playthroughs that everyone in the game, except for two (2) people, are absolute pieces of shit, just as Rosa warns you at the game's start.
does presence actually do anything
>>746676064lasombra is hands down the most interesting to me, imagine all the shit you could discover about existence studying the abyssalso strangling someone with their own shadow probably never gets old
>>746690228Yes, it's huge and can AoE stun enemies in a large radius. A Toreador/Brujah with both high Celerity and Presence basically stops taking any damage because they can just dodge bullets and mesmerize opponents they can't even see.
I've played the game unmodded and with the unofficial patch years ago, anything else I should experience?
>>746690228It makes a pretty noticeable difference in combat especially at higher levels. It doesn't buff your damage as much but it makes enemies block damage less. It also nerfs enemy ranged and melee damage both while further reducing melee swing speed.
>>746662967
>>746690228It's a fairly powerful debuff at higher levels but I'm irked it can't be used to buff all your social stats in conversation.In the PnP it's pretty much the best social Discipline on top of actually allowing for sone fun character interaction compared to Dominate.
>>746690228>"I fuck like it's for survival>"As if it's the last sip of water I'll ever get>"Ribs visible, eyes bloodshot, thrusting away">>746690662It's nutty how PnP Presence completely shits all over Dominate.Plus patch does this.
>>746690228The Stun makes it so you can drink blood while having a bad strength/brawl stat.
>>746690752im surprised its been 22 years and players still dont understand how strong disciplines are and keep saying to focus only on combat stats
I S O L A T E D
Thoughts on Princes of Darkness?
>>746690862Personally I've always included disciplines with combat stats. It's not a stat but it's something you upgrade that 90% of the time is purely combat related.
>>746690640Yes. By a large margin in fact. Even God likes Toreador.
>>746656117>just turned fallThe why the fuck is it still hot as all shit?
>>746691031Incoming solar flare that will EMP the planet and baptize whichever side is facing the blast when it arrives in fire, while the other half will have no idea what happened because communications will go down completely.
>>746691031The temperatures have just begun to fall.
>>746691131mods, kill this poster for his use of a pun
>>746691131You cheeky bastard.
>>746689228you're not retarded for playing a talker, you're retarded for going five fucking stamina but one fortitude.
>>746691198histoire rape
>>746691104Any solar event that would affect electronics will either be so massive the entire world is fucked, or so minor that typical precautions would stop most of the damage. Either way, not worth worrying about.
>>746687305>georgia gangrel gangmy niggamy area has become utterly overrun with indians in recent times, cant wait to get out of here
>>746690940It's a well made mod but at the end of the night, it's still CK3, and as much as the game's moved towards being a medieval life sim rather than a grand strat, the bones aren't that compatible. Also, I don't care for the other splats or chinkpires at all, so a lot of the content the mod adds does nothing for me. I'd really prefer a vampire and hunters only mode.
>>746689993THE stubborn assholeSpeaking of Cain, was WoD inspired by the Kain of Karl Edward Wagner?
what the fuck is fall?
>>746658536Still 9500 more than the second one
>love world of darkness>only ever wanna play huntersis this like the white male warrior of WoD
>>746674702never ever. They like to pretend all the nWoD lines don't exist and only use the enshittified versions of oWoD stuff. Best you can hope for is if someone makes a non-shit general ghost game in the near future.
>>746692164oWoD hunters are gay as fuck.nWoD hunters are based. So just depends on which you prefer.
>>746692248Divine hunters are indeed gay as fuck, although I wouldnt mind a very rare deus machina by God to show evil does not reign absolute on Earth
>>746692421The trick is to just play Delta Green and then put VTM creatures and organizations in it.
Is there any mod or restored content that explains anything about our sire? Considering how powerful we get and we're on par with an 8th Gen, it's an interesting detail that's overlooked with how casually the sheriff murders our sire
>>746656117THIS FOO CRAZY
>>746692530probably for the best in general given how downhill whitewolf has gone
>>746692773No. Your sire was an Anarch (as stated by Strauss) that thought you'd be perfect for the Movement to help them build up their numbers after losing to the Kuei-jin's exploratory forces. They were killed by LaCroix because he felt the need to throw his dick around and prove he's the Prince of LA. The reason Nines loses his cool is because LaCroix just executed one of the Anarchs' best soldiers and was about to execute their childe, (You). LaCroix lets you live to appear somewhat merciful (which is something Jack is more than happy to explain to you), but hoped you would die in Santa Monica. You are rapidly gaining power because you're being forced into bullshit situations way above your experience and surviving them, and also because Caine is empowering you. Your blood becomes so potent that Andre loses his shit when you arrive at Hallowbrook because of how exceptional you are, and it's this empowerment that lets you no-diff LaCroix's Dominate at the end of the game.FURTHERMORE, Jack used you as a patsy the entire time. He's the one who anonymously informed Johannsen about the Sarcophagus. He's the one who killed everyone on the Dane. He was nice to you after you were kicked out of the Theater because he wanted you to think he was someone worth trusting, and he kept nudging you in the right directions to make you bring the Sarcophagus to LaCroix.Most people have no full realization of just how played they were throughout Bloodlines. You were a patsy the moment your sire set their sights on you.
>>746692203which japanese studio should make the beast game
>>746693128this is why its pointless to try and climb the vampire ladder, you're just a pawn for some other fag thats been around for a few centuries before you power is seized, not accumulated Tremere understood that best
>>746693262And yet Caine himself is a fucking taxi driver, just goes to show how that the real winner of the Byzantine power struggle is the one who doesn’t play them
>>746693248fromsoft lol
>>746693319>"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
>>746693319Cain is about the furthest thing possible from being a winner he may be in fact the biggest loser in the history of existence
>>746693248OH FUCK NO
>>746693128Im totally okay with Jack winning the game, he also seems distraught if you died. Chilling there with the antediluvian having a beer, watching lacroix get whacked
>>746693426>"im okay with being screwed because it felt good"woman mentality
>>746693401Idk, he’s basically the most powerful vampire in existence and he drives a cab. He’s jumped through the loops already and wants nothing to do with it, and wants a backseat, that’s my take>>746693371Yes indeed
>>746693458Nah, its just that out of all the people in the game who use the protagonist I understand Jacks motives the most — hes an anarch who hates the prince, so he sends him a gift that he never asked to receive. Its a beautiful ending, so long as it isnt opened by yourself.
>>746664286it didnt turn fall you retard there's still like 20 days left of summer
>>746693548Cope. Summer has fallen, billions must chill.
All bloodsuckers should be staked to the floor and vaporized with a giant space magnifying glass.
>>746693585haha so true fellow mage where do you live so i can help
>>746693487>Forced to live for eternity on Earth cursed to fear the sun>Your children, your childrens children, and so on bear your same curse>All of your descendants slaughter eachother for a crumb of power just so they can slaughter the next guy in line >Know forever that you killed your brother that you loved and are denied entry into Heaven to reunite with him and constantly pissed about it>Must bear this curse for eternity>Oh yeah, and in some interpretations the door is wide open for him to just say sorry but he hates himself so much he thinks hes incapable of forgiveness No one has lost the game more than this angsty asshole, at best hes coping through existence rather than living it
>>746689143I spent nearly an hour chipping down Ming Xiao, because I did fuck-all damage, and ran out of good bullets.It is possible.
>>746693426>distraughtIf I remember correctly his extent of caring is "Shame. Oh well." and he's already moved on.
>>746690228Your skin becomes Matrix Neo levels of tough against bullets and other hardware
>>746693780Idk what to say, if he wanted to end it he could’ve walked into the sun at any given point.. What keeps him going then if hes such a failure? Hes just interested in seeing the game being played, and not participating beyond an accomodating level. I think he’s already accepted the burden of his curse, and the impact of it, given how he talks to the player. Its just another deck of cards with a different set of rules, and as you say if he wanted absolution, who knows, they might even listen..>>746693818Well what do you want, him to play you a fucking eulogy when he’s celebrating the death of his mortal enemy? Not to mention, its more like a ‘damn, shame that he basically did what everyone told him not to do’ like, I was mad at first but then I understood, its just another way of seizing power, but in a different scope.
>>746693780>Oh yeah, and in some interpretations the door is wide open for him to just say sorry but he hates himself so much he thinks hes incapable of forgivenessisn't that the offer that was given to lucifer
>>746676359>>746675404>>746675254jej I feel bad for the guys running the Vampire CCGThey changed the way Disciplines worked to accommodate the merge and now they're gonna have to undo it
>>746694086>he could’ve walked into the sun at any given point..Because it wouldnt kill him, hes the only vampire incapable of dying, hes triedHis curse is true undeath, if he was stuck out in the sun he'd just feel like hes burning to death until it went back down, but he can't die unlike the others. All he can do in life is see all the suffering his actions has caused
>>746694190thishe also survives crucible of god and when he curses god for not letting him die without apologizing, god just laughs at him
>>746693128Even the Lone Wolf ending ends up with you bring manipulated, because you essentially do all the Anarch dirty work for them. And you grant them victory on a silver platter, while gaining nothing in return.
>Cain, for murdering your brother and lying to me, I am cursing you by making you immortal, giving you the power of flight, indestructibility, the ability to go at the speed of light, to split mountains with your hands, and uh idk polymorph and invisibility Nice curse
>>746694484>Also, sometimes I turn into a burning bush to scare the shit out of Moses.
>>746694318Yes and no. You -do- give them LA, but you also give them a second black eye by making them believe that not only can they not liberate their own city, you could come back any time you wanted and just fucking kill them. Lone Wolf isn't the best ending because Caine makes it clear you're going to be hunted for the rest of your unlife by shitheads who want to drink specifically you.I think I was blessed with the "perfect" playthrough because I went in blind. Getting hit with the bludgeon that's Samantha helped me accept how bullshit vampirism is (Schaffer's guitar work for the Hollywood theme really helped set that tone). Getting to Chinatown and being reminded that I have almost no limits by the Mandarin testing me, and getting fucking sick and tired of all of the bullshit by the end of the Giovanni mansion, all of it set me up for a Lone Wolf ending. Trying to be nice guy vampire and then saying "fuck this" was a lucid experience. I'm heavily biased for it, even if it's not the best ending for anyone in the long-term. But the satisfaction of giving Nines the finger is too great to pass up.
>>746694484caine didnt know he could do that until lilith used her demonic sex magic to unlock the secret of his mark>"yes he could"not in my headcanon
>>746690940it's cool, but you have to metagame and look up guides if you want to do anything cool, plenty of noob traps and the mechanics aren't the most intuitive
>*achieves true inner peace, breaking the shackles of the kindred curse, and enters heaven*cya suckers
>>746664286It's been unseasonably cool and wet all summer. This was the coolest, rainiest August my area has ever recorded. We've only had five tropical storms in the Atlantic this year, and zero hurricanes. This summer has had the mildest weather across the board I've ever seen in my lifetime.
stay clear of dark-skinned brujahs
>>746696003they dont make jaws like they used to
>>746696007Unless youre Damsel of course
>>746696007this game is bullshit
>>746676064Salubri, Toreador, Malkavian, or Ventrue. Preferably the first one.
>>746689143If you invest literally 0 in combat you'll get fucked in the sewers or the 4th act. Just putting a few dots from time to time will keep you chugging along. There's enough xp, buff items and other stuff to meet practically every check while still being combat capable.
>>746668224>Glaciers are already melting left and rightThats what they do.
>>746659346>>746662043>>746675531imagine the sex
I want to have sex with Aisling.
>>746692248shame theyre stuck in a shitty edition of WoD
if the gameplay wouldnt suck ass it'd be an actual gem. a real shame man. >just turn on godmode!yawn
>>746667926It is warming left and right. My town used to be a snow hazard area and I haven't seen proper snow in 10 years. I had to stop making olive oil because it is so hot olives shrivel and grapes have a fucked up life cycle and don't grow well anymore.In '96 a 40°C summer was an anomalous heatwave, now it's the norm and heatwaves can reach 47°C.Only a culture war brainrotted nigger would deny all of this.
>>746676064Malk is hottest and also the bestest clan
>>746669939People shit on Disco Elysium for far, far less and even then it's more by extension to its devs. If this was released today modern /v/ would hate it.
>>746699642surebitch nigger
>>746677616>>746678136count your nights
>>746699642Not really, that flavor text is making fun of punk typesDisco Elysium is also pretty explicitly pro-communist if you actually understand what all the stuff with the Pale is supposed to represent. But that game is ultimately more about love than it is about politics.
>>746684750we had 15 toreadors artists for beauty control, 8 tzimisce greatest vicissitude masters to reshape the flesh, 8 gangrel shamans to connect the spirits of beauty and all that jazz and 5 tremer regents to perform a ritual that will prevent all possible bane relapse to turn one ugly nosf into relatively pretty womanit was hard, but we did it
>hate hollywood (even before the sewers)>like chinatown
>>746693787your flamethrower?
>>746663789I'd do anything for Aisling!
>>746667726Nines is from the early 1920's he would say that
>>746684984The high fidelity AI paintings looks so out of place.
>>746691820Honestly I do like having the other splats around.Adds some variety to the setting, and keeps you more on your toes.One time a Garou managed to conquer most of Eastern Europe for example. The realm got destroyed after she died and after like a century or two what was left got populated by fae-blooded Lahams(weaker nephilim I think?) for some reason
i think we should gift last death to all poseurs in toreador clan. these faggots were embraced only for pretty faces and unreasonable snobism, that exceeds their true status as the slum of our clan. how they can even dare to talk about art, if they do not participate in it? having a rich collection of finest paintings is what a ventrue can do. in fact. poseurs could be ventrues, but they have only image of power, they lack their dominant spirits and were sent to poison OUR kindred with their useless presence. i have more respect for all nosferatus under the moon than i have for a poseur, that sips blood like its a 1348 wine and this wine is perhaps older than their sire poseurs have no class in living vampire's un-life. they lack posh to be a true toreador. all they do is stand next to us, real toreadors, next to our work and make look like they're part of it. i hate poseurs so fucking much
>>746657370September is the start of fall as the temperatures are cooling, you fucking moron. Next you'll tell me it's CE not AD you mind raped golemshunned by God.
anyone with dlss5 can show us what VTMB looks like with it?
>>746699642History was added by the fan patch.
>>746701728Motherfucker it felt like 101 degrees yesterday on the east coast. It is still very much summer.
>>746701470do they not teach you how to write coherent English in Ventrue school
>>746701470>i think we should gift last death to all poseurs in toreador clanit's not nice to call for TOTAL TOREADOR DEATH
frankly i don’t get why anyone would play vtmb more than 3 timesi mean, once you’ve played as tremere, malk and nosferatu what’s the point in doing it againwho in their right mind would go "man i can’t wait to play the second part again!"
>>746658069No.... you stop!
>>746661545if only the best ghoul existed
>>746662678money 1.2
>>746668821gangrel is the most braindead clan to play. literally frenzy, protean, watch enemies die.
>>746687074counterpoint: dgVoodoo2
>>746703058I'd rather see someone like Venus existing (without having fucked anyone before)
>>746696105mmm damn sail
>larry pays venus to peg himWtf i thought he was a cool nigga and not a redditor
>>746701983Wait a week Employim.
>>746703830the whole Venus-Larry thing was added through a mod, base game it was Killpatrick
>>746703831>EmployimFucking lmao. I gotta love it. GG.At least in a week, it's supposed to start getting into the mid 70s. That's still summer though!
>>746692164Just play Delta Green, anon; you will have much more fun
>>746679087Did the night road dude make more world of darkness cyoa's? The other vampire related choice of games stuff is SHART. Not as shart as the first two sweedish cyoa apps from a different company but still.
>>746656117Never forget, never forgive wesp5.
>>746704549>removed faggot backstory...based?
>>746704738The opposite - he added it.Left is his mod, right is Troika.
>>746681962KEK
>>746704952>left is mod right is troikawhat retard made this? he thought we are japanese to read right-to-left?
Just beat it, hated the ending. The whole subvert your expectations there was actually no horror in the sarcophagus gotcha bullshit was really irritating after building it up the entire game, plus the end sequence felt rushed as hell and not rewarding in the slightest. Game peaked in Hollywood and was downhill from there, imo
>>746705602>He opened it
>>746705602Yes the game peaks pre-sewer hollywood but the sarcophagus being a bomb is not subversion at all, the story and themes of the game spend the whole time foreshadowing it
>>746705640I didn't, and I got pissed off I didn't even get the option to. I got the Strauss ending which felt so shitty and rushed that I had to then look up the other endings online to see how badly I fucked up.
>>746693128>because Caine is empowering youelaborate
>>746705459Look at the first row retard.
>>746673063Companion mod ventrue run
>>746693128At least there's one vampire in LA who never tries to manipulate you.
>>746705602Illiterate.
>>746705602you are fucking retarded
>>746705738I think I just love a good mystery so it was disappointing. I would have loved if it actually did contain an ancient vamp lord who, upon opening it murders you and everyone else in LA giving you the bad ending
>>746706003And that's Beckett.
>>746706059>I just love a good mysteryObviously not since you didn't figure this out.
>>746704447I think he made a werewolf the apocalypse IF (interactive fiction). But not anything vtm.
>>746706147I'm not familiar with werewolf, but I'll give it a try.
>>746706059>spoilerit did, did you watched the ending? he was chilling with jack
>>746706407I haven't played it. Only played the other four IFs in the vtm saga or whatever it's called (parliament of knives etc.) and they were shit.
>>746706059I simply don't think you were really paying attention then
>>746706497Never showed for me in the Tremere ending
>>746706497that was just a mummified mortal king
>>746706809>helped most jewish vampire clanjesus christ>>746706863ik and i like it
>>746706890My plan was some sort of gigabetrayal at the end, but after you chose in the cab you are "locked in" and the ending sequence essentially has 0 choice, which was lame as fuck but I couldn't be bothered to reload and deal with the shitty last level again. The game falls off hard at the end, they clearly ran out of budget, to have 0 dialogue choices affecting the outcome right at the final dialogue is ridiculous.
>>746707141>he didn't went for lone wolf endingfaggot
>>746704549what kind of mental illness caused them to do all this bullshit?
>>746685104>You know what this Source game from the early 2000s needs?FERNS of course.
>>746667775Why is there so many polish cat memes on 4chan? Find a polish meme in about 1/3 of threads nowadays. Still, loving the mkultra cat that attacks the dog.
>>746707702Pure retardation + weak spine.A lot of the changes in his mod are things requested by the planetvampire forum insane leftists.
>>746706890nta but Strauss is the only one who shows any clear thinking of all the possible choices
>>746680701>most humane vampire clan>they're often Sabbat-aligned I understand not wanting to deal with Tremere in the Camarila, but mercy and empathy and Sabbat don't really go together. Also wouldn't the Sabbat be the first to chomp down on extra sweet vitae?
>>746686085Le el nino/nina cycle or something
>>746709074At this point, the Salubri are anything but merciful. Tremere genocide essentially left all the remaining Salubri them batshit and those very few ones that still cling to empathy are usually unaligned.
Tremere>red glassesLasombra>black lipstickNosferatu>gimp suit or hobo wearWhat do the other clans get?
>>746706407It's not bad. I also know fuck all about werewolf but his writing is still pretty good. I was entirely confused about what the fuck was happening but maybe I'm just retarded.
>>746699642>>746701858That's flavor text that I edited in the histories. I wrote many of them intentionally sardonic. The "joke" was that "The Day After Tomorrow" was released in 2004, and was widely derided for its ridiculous concept by the average person at the time. That's what made it "punk" at the time to be a climate advocate and activist, because the notion of New York freezing over was absurd to people. It wouldn't be until Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" in 2006 that the average person would start to take global warming more seriously, which turned it from a punk topic to a political one.Here's another history whose text I edited, based on the 1999 documentary "Black Tar Heroin". The joke here is that Tracey Helton, a youth from the film, became a drug counselor in real life, as revealed in a 2004 follow-up interview. Another person, Jacob Butler, "overcame" his heroin addiction via methadone treatment; he later overdosed because he stopped taking methadone and took something harder following a break-up with a girlfriend.I didn't realize I was being such an unc with my references zoomers don't know about. It was the 90s and early 00s. I was there, and these were somewhat serious things people were talking about at the time.
>>746693580I kek'd gently
>>746706003Susan hates you if you don't do what she tells you, retard.
Lasombra and Tzimisce have the most fun disciplines in the tabletop, desu.
>>746697887brennan is real good at playing a religious zealot considering his irl views, what a good guy
stop liking evil vampire women
>>746706059a power play using a complex deception maneuver is far more in tune with WoD as a setting
>>746697887>>746711401it's a shame he had to act opposite side with that retarded Erika, she can't put her irl views aside for even 1 second for the sake of roleplaying, By night would be 1000 times better if it weren't for her
>>746712165no its not
>>746706578Those are shit, but the first two sweedish vtm text adventures released on its/android almost make them seem component
>>746707647>KEKketfuckboi
>>746704549the text changes are unnecessary but this tutorial map fix was an objective bug/inconsistency with the game featuring impossible geometrylook carefully on the downtown hub and compare the entrances to the vanilla tutorialits literally impossible tardis geometry
>>746711164man the dialogue was top tier, they really nailed the silver tongue part of it"the truth is often cruel, darling, but you don't have to be" she said that after I talked smack and instantly humbled me lol
>>746712063No.I wanna put my coom-coom in her cold dead womb-womb.
>>746712416What you're leaving out is that Troika was working on actually changing the hub maps when the game was forced to be released. Playtesters helped them realize where bugs and convoluted pathways were, and the team was trying to correct that. Santa Monica was the only hub they got to fix in time. When discussing the changes wesp made to the tutorial layout, it's important to bring up that the map layouts weren't fully set in stone. What players SHOULD be complaining about is that wesp's Basic patch is littered with data clutter from his Plus patch.
>>746712639I find it strange that people fixate on the changes made to the tutorial map when Wesp5 made some really outrageous changes to things like the Ocean House Hotel and Ming Xiao's Temple (apparently changed back due to backlash, but I can't confirm)
>>746697887>there are still people who think nWoD and WoD5 are the same thing
>>746690940easily the best modoh, and the given eternal esoteric programming hell of mages when
>>746712749There's plenty of historical context about VTMB's modding scene that's generally lost. For example, True Gold by Tessera was made in response to wesp's constant changes, but True Gold used many fixes that wesp already made. So, what ended up happening was wesp "made" Basic, but he'd made so many changes to the UP already that now he doesn't remember what the base game values, locations, and triggers for numerous things should actually be. Tess stopped updating True Gold because he suffered from TDS and died just last year.While it is true that we have Frankenpatch, even that has changes wesp made hidden in it. wesp's patches have so heavily flooded the community's perception of VTMB that it's almost impossible to break away from it. In spite of all that? I'm just glad that the game still runs 22 years later.
>>746709074There's like twelve of them tops, and the Salubri Antitribu are basically deranged terrorists that just want the Tremere dead. That's why they're in the Sabbat.
>>746664286I need shit to cool off until I pick up comfy games like this again.
>>746713051VTMB is sadly held back due to being built around a proprietary early Source Engine version modified by Troika, just decompiling a few textures and other things is a major headache because of it, so I can't blame people for wanting to piggy back off of Wesp's modified version.
>>746712303EXTREMELY 90s illustration
>>746706059>i love a good mystery>completely fails to understand the mystery
>>746713441Same. I remember when I first got into seeing what makes Bloodlines tick and getting my shit kicked in by vpk files helped me appreciate things more. I may not agree with some changes, but I don't hate people for them.
>>746713441working on steam downstream of valve in ca 2002 must've been completely miserable
>>746713805*source
is the reason known why Paradox fired most devs and switched from open-world sandbox to whatever Bloodlines 2 is?the early demos made it look like it would be pretty similar to Bloodlines 1, and stopping mid-production to give it to another studio doesn't make much sense financially either
>>746714091pdox is just publishing that shitheap
>>746713692I think what I love the most about Bloodlines from a technical standpoint is how they integrate the music into the soundscapes instead of just placing an ambient_generic with an .mp3 file that loops, so the music can start and stop dynamically depending on which areas you visit.This is very noticeable when you move from the main street in hollywood over to the hole in the fence leading to the graveyard where the bums hang out, and is something I wish I knew how to do, really, the sound design for all of Bloodlines is superb.
>>746676064Lasombra ofc. If we're gonna go vamp goth gf, we're doing it all the way.
>>746714091Hardsuit Labs weren't doing their jobs, kept missing deadlines, and argued constantly with Paradox about what the vision of the game should be. Everyone with a brain agrees that Paradox should've just given up on Bloodlines 2 and had Chinese Room make something else Vampire-related (my hot take is it should've been Requiem - Bloodlines). The entire game is just a hot mess of stupid decisions and petty behaviors.
>>746713551What's there to understand exactly?
>>746714091It was a total shitshow. >Hardsuit labs started firing its own people well before Paradox took the axe to them.>Including Mitsoda and Avellone, the former being an actual dev of the original and the latter being a big part of the initial sales pitch.>Hardsuit was well behind schedule and "muh covid" stopped being a valid excuse a year ago.>Eventually Paradox hires a corporate investigator and hatchet man to investigate Hardsuit.>According to him, they'd basically stopped working on the game entirely and were just bullshitting with a revolving door of low skill codemonkeys. >So Paradox took the game away from them.>But couldn't find anyone to actually take on the product for like 6 months. >Eventually managed to get Sumo to whore the Chinese Room out to them, but on a few conditions.>Basically, Chinese Room wanted total creative control and ability to change whatever they wanted, and Paradox had nobody else who wanted the job so they said yes.>This did not stop TCR from immediately trying to ask if they just make an entirely different VtM game and that's when Paradox finally said no.>Fast forward through another uncomfortably long dev cycle.>The absolute shitshow that is VTMB2 comes out.
>>746714324>your sire will torture you half to death, then kill your family and shoot your dog just to troll you before they Embrace you.They are actually the worst sires. They will literally ruin your life and unlife, because they are bitter incarnate and expect you to be the same way.
Is it gonna be good?
>>746714901redemption was never good
>>746676064tremere. i have research autism and would love to spend 100 years straight trying to figure out vampirism. also maybe someone a motherfucker needs to get blood boiled.
>>746715017>wants to be a noddist>wants to be tremerethats not how that works
>>746715083no i mean figure out vampirism and unlock its true potential, not go digging in the desert for a 2000 year old mummy.
>>746676064>Toreador AKA the be hot and get pussy forever clan
>>746715083To be fair, Aisling was dabbing in the Noddist shit a bit, even working alongside Beckett at times. But it's mostly because she was bored and she's a total nerd at heart.
>>746714901>helped most jewish vampire clanThatd be Giovanni
>>746715331whoops meant for >>746706890
>>746715195>get infinite pussy>it's nowhere near as a good as a shot of blood
>>746715083A lot of Camarilla vampires are low key Noddist, or at least willing to entertain the idea. It's just that the Sabbat believes in a hyper literal apocalyptist Noddism and that sours its reputation in "polite" vampire society.
>>746714469>>746714678unlucky situation for Paradox. even though they have the rights to WoD, I guess they will be hesitant to touch it in the near future
>>746715432>unlucky situation for Paradoxperhaps they shouldn't be fucking retarded??
>>746714708>goth sire gf that will ruin your life
>>746714901What is this exactly?
>>746715331>>746715381Erm, dont you mean Hecata?
>he didn't play malk firstImagine missing the most ludokino experience that this game has to offer.
>>746715432Their next move was to find a bunch of Poles and tell them to make a Hunter game next.Amusingly enough, this might actually work out.
>>746715413what? nothe reason most camarilla vampires arent noddists is because the camarilla hardlines that caine is a myth so its a waste of time searching for pages of the whole text. they have to hardline caine is a myth because if they dont diablerie would be a thing and fuck up elder power structuresthe sabbat know that caine is real and antes will wake up and devour their childer so the sabbat hopes that a completed noddist text will reveal where the antes are so they can put them to final death and avoid gehenna
>>746712063No, I don't think I will.
>>746715481The Lasombra are not goths. They are Spaniards and/or turbo Catholics.>>746715495As of V6, the Hecata are no more. We are back to the Giovanni.
>>746715519I was happy with Gangrel. Having serious conversations with Beckett and having both him and Caine guide me towards Lone Wolf ending felt good. I didn't particularly enjoy a Malk playthrough. Felt too p3ngu1n 0f d000m1!! to me.
>>746713805They were handed the source code to an early alpha/beta of the engine and that's that.That's how it was back in the days before fast internet and distributed version control software.
>>746676064I like how especially alluring the Malkavian lips are. Why is your dick always steering you towards crazy?
>>746715432>I guess they will be hesitant to touch it in the near futureThat would be logical but they've always doubled down when it comes to WoD. They've approved multiple games after the Bloodlines 2 failure and are trying to push out yet another new tabletop edition. But they always double down on the stuff people hate, so I have no idea what they're smoking.
give it to me straight, only people who have actually played it: is VTMB2 good
>>746715725Any game that turns into a mandatory walking simulator which lasts longer than 1 minute cannot be defined as "good".
>>746715725No. At best it's "alright if you turn your brain off". But the story is pure nonsense, the mechanics are barebones, all the characters are unlikeable. The best part about the game is the music, but 90% of it was nicked from the cut songs from BL1.
>>746715712if malkavian is what stands out on this your taste is awful Banu Haqim and Lasombra, now those are some lips meant for the sloppiest kisses to the most brutal of blowjobs
>>746715562It's one of those lies that the officials say while not actually believing themselves. Cainite was still the common parlance term for vampires when the founders of the Camarilla were ancilla. Btw the book of nod has Caine basically lay out the proto-traditions and Caine says to honor your elders and never, ever commit diablerie. But reading comprehension has never been the Sabbat's strong suit.
>>746715725I didn't finish it but I can tell you, in the very least, the first few hours will feel like shit if you were expecting an elder power fantasy
>>746715697Yeah the fishmalk parts are the worst of it. Still, if you were familiar with the setting nothing tops playing malk first while trying to figure if you're a seer getting glimpses from the future or just bonkers. Probably both. 10/10 experience and you can always play a "normal" run later.
>>746715725I finished the game as Lasombra and got the Lou as Prince endingits an ok sandbox brawler, traversal is fun but beating endless waves of ghouls with unique combination of powers can keep you entertained for so long, its definitely not an rpg and definitely has no interesting and colorful, vtmb tier npcs
>>746676064>on outing wearing my social mask>pretending i like being out around normies>end of the night>get got by a nossie>punishing me for my conventional good looks>reveal i'm actually a huge homebody dork>just want to be left alone in my cave and listen to my late 90s metal>doing my research>enjoy that i now have infinite unlife as a freak vampire, something i actually always wanted>think i tricked the nossie>of course, she knew all this from the beginningdamn
>>746715697>>746715881actually nothing tops being a nossie on your first runeveryone giving you a excuse to kill them because they are mean for how i look is just like irlwe wouldnt have school shooters if people would just be nice
>>746715881you are very clearly getting accurate knowledge from minute 1 of the tutorial
>Gehenna happens>Its just Cain finally saying "alright bro, im sorry caved your skull in">Every vampire on earth gets thanos snapped out of existence
>>746716032literally nobody is mean to you as a nossie the NPCs almost all make up some kind of sob story to explain it awayyou are just insecure
>>746716072god literally doesn't care
>>746716117haha hey guess who just got added to my list of people who are mean to me for no good reason
>>746715926Lou is such a shit character by the way. She's one of those characters that has the writers on her side and somehow keeps getting away with everything, without having none of the smarts nor any of the charisma to back it up. Even LaCroix is more competent than her, even though he's a half-joke character, while the story REALLY wants to sell you the idea that Lou is super-competent as this prince from the shadows.
>>746716186>gave him the curse>sent multiple angels down to get him to say sorrygod cares....A LOT
>>746716038But you can't be sure until the end, that's the point.
>>746716249Pretty much all of the NPCs are like that though. The whole thing is an idiot plot.
>>746715519Why play Malk first when you'll have nothing to compare it to?
>>746716072Actually, Gehenna was the other way around.God literally showed up in front of Caine and went "look, dude, I am tired of this shit, just say you're sorry and we can call it bygones." And Caine told him to fuck off, so the whole thing started all over again.
>>746716192>I Don't mean no offenseyou are deranged
>>746716375Gee Anon other than weird dialogue what's the main difference with malk gamepelay?
>>746716263source it (Gehenna scenarios were never canon)
>>746716406>Actually, Gehenna was the other way around.Gehenna is a lot of things, its just a catch all term for any vampire based apocalypse scenario
>>746716186>god meddles>it gets worse>he meddles some more>it gets worse>he meddles some more>it gets worse>he just gives up>it gets worse
>>746716417you will die
>>746716513> (You)
>>746716483NTA but WTF actually happened between the now called oWoD and that gayass V5 thing?
>>746716483That isnt a Gehenna tale, its a Book of Nod origin script
>>746716596the Week of NightmaresRavnos antediluvian woke up and got nuked by the Technocracy (cope MtA/WtA haters)Gaia diedthe vague mysterious Calling deleted all the old powerful vampires from the setting and the Gauntlet got enfuckified and deleted all the old Mages because nuWoD is all about wrestling crackheads for pocket change and punishing you for ever using powers
>>746716597the Book of Nod is made up in-universe and directly contradicted by other sources
>>746714678>>746714091We don't know important details in this history and may never know, why was Mitsoda fired?That was way before the they hired the guy to check on HSL.Outside influence? Paradox/WW not agreeing with his oldschool writing style? Then that whole Avellone fake accusation thing, where they just threw him under the bus.This "official history" places all the blame unilaterally on HSL and I just don't buy it, because every asset that is high quality in the final release of VTMB2 came from them and was just repurposed, theyt also released some great traillers and the leaked dev build looked decent enough.
>>746716917typical camarilla cope
>>746715725>goodno, but the game can be bearable.i wish the thread wasn't dying so i could write more, but the only real fun things are the disciplines, the vampire sprint and roughly 30-40% of the dialogue.for reference there are 3-4 enemy types in the entire game
>>746716846>Ravnos antediluvian woke up and got nuked by the TechnocracySomehow I thought that was part of one of the Gehenna scenarios, forgot it was past of the metaplot.>Gaia diedShouldn't the earth collapse (at all levels) then?>the vague mysterious Calling deleted all the old powerful vampires from the setting and the Gauntlet got enfuckified and deleted all the old MagesHow convenient (and lame). No wonder why everybody lost interest.>>746716597>source is sabbat propaganda Neonate I...
>>746717081Then start a new thread.
>>746717105>TechnocracyMages and everything around them are the gayest thing imaginable, and thats in a world with fairies
>>746717105>Shouldn't the earth collapseIt is essentially a world in its death throesv5 Werewolf is deliberately hopeless and Gehenna is seemingly an ongoing thingI guess we'll all have to wait and see if they continue with the slow-burn apocalypse or pull a "She got better." for v6
>>746717296eh, if another VTMB thread pops up organically i'll do a writeup.i don't feel like making a whole thread just to list what i personally like or didn't like about it
imagine 69-ing blood sucking with your childe
>>746716975>why was Mitsoda fired?We really don't know, he's not seriously talking about it himself. My guess is either he was fired just to save money, since as the writer, he'd already done his job. Or, he got couped by Ellison and co. It's easy and understandable to want to blame Paradox but I don't think they really paid attention to what was going on in HSL for most of their dev cycle.
>>746717326The best part about the Technocracy is how everybody but White Wolf loved them. It took them a decade to admit they weren't bad just because they're "the man". I mean, they're evil in their world domination thing but the traditions aren't better.>>746717346I'd take a "reset" over continuing the shitshow. Guess I'm not their public tho.
>>746715519Insanely and utterly based. I almost listened to the fags who have parroted "Don't play Malk first it's for second playthroughs" for decades THANK CAINE I DIDN'T LISTEN>>746716375Why would I compare it to anything? Malk first makes you decipher your own dialogue, it's peak and can only be done with a first playthrough when you don't know anything but context clues. In my humble opinion Malk loses most of its charm once you already know what the kooky dialogue is really saying but until you know it's unbeatable.
>>746716032Can you fuck her as a nossie?
>>746717487>but I don't think they really paid attention to what was going on in HSL for most of their dev cycle.This is plenty reason to blame Paradox.
farewell to another vtm thread
>>746717742you can't as anyone
>>746718037>>746718152:'(Adiós, kin
