>character originally presented as a gag>remake turns it into 100% serious political activismWhat the hell were the thinking?
Remake doesn't commit to it either. Beldam never calls Vivian male unlike the original.
>>746659624>remake turns it into 100% serious political activismVivian is still a He in the Japanese version of the remake. This is entirely the fault of localizers who weren't beaten enough as children.
>>746659808In the original game Vivian being male was treated as a gag. Now it's taken 100% seriously.
culture war faggots are really desperate to push their bullshit on /v/ today
retard OP never played the gamethe chapter where she joins you explore themes of belonging and social isolation, loss of self, fear of the unknown, transformation, and reclaiming your identityvivian isn't a tranny for no reason, she's there for a reason and she isn't a gag character. you only think that because you perceive them as inherently gagworthy and your media analysis skills are nonexistent
>>746659870Vivian is still a He in the Japanese version of the remake. This is entirely the fault of localizers who weren't beaten enough as children.
>>746661709>>746659870>>746659808vivian being a male in the jp version instead of a female was the result of devs who weren't beaten enough as children
>I don't get it... they're male, but also a girl? I-i-is that a t-t-T-TRANS CHARACTER???>AAAAIIIEEEEEE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN I'M GOING INSANE
>>746660961okay but why do they all put so much of their sense of self and belonging in a word which they know means fuck all? they isolate themselves like that
>>746659624Y'know, I probably should have seen my brother trooning out coming considering this is one of his favorite games
>>746659624I laughed my ass off at the reveal in the original game, legit rolling on the floor laughing. Then I proceeded to use Vivian as my main companion for most of the rest of the game because her DoT is really really good
>>746664429havent played but doesnt this character realize she isnt a guy she just wanted to be takrn seriously?
>>746659624>character originally presented as a gagSince when? It was always played pretty straight, ironically.
GUH
>>746665008>GameCubesnoys It's cubies, snoy
>>746664808Oh yeah, but of course her plight is only seen at surface-level
>>746659624Femboy belly...
>>746665182
>>746665182my wife
>>746665268in my day they were called Nintendrš¬nes
>>746659624Never forget.
>>746666228cry about it
>>746666290Classless equal societies cant exist if some video game women are more attractive than other women
>>746659624I read ranma as a kid and this exact same storyline happens in it so I thought it was just referencing that. I fucking hate modern activists
the fat one needs more art and love
>>746666574>it's not political because I was too young to understand it at the timebased retard
>>746666786>it wasn't political when it was made but it became political over time due to modern movementsftfyfuckin retard """"""""recontextualizing""""""""" history for his narrative, very tranny-esque behavoir there
>>746659808>>746661709>>746662553>>746661709isnt it funny how they lecture others on free expression when you make them feel discouraged by not immediately believing that everything they said was factually correct and also expressed clearly yet FOR SOME REASON whenever someone expresses something THEY disagree with its met with forceful rewrites
why did they make everything in TTYD so fucking sexy?
>>746664429Return to God
>>746659624NOA is a bunch of fags
>>746666290>Faggot can't prove it wrong
>>746659624I was between booting this up today and dk64 on the pc recomp that adds barrelless switchingI think this was the deciding factor ngl lol
>>746659870You're not supposed to think his sisters bullying him is funny regardless
>>746666228>>746667752that homelander finale was funny, kneel and suck my dick please
>>746667970The plotline is serious, but the scenario is clearly meant to be farcical. "Three sisters and the only good looking one is actually a man? LMAO!". It never had anything to do with gender identity.
Who cares?BELLY.
japan is the only 1st world country
>>746659624>NoA >Not being politically motivated leftistslollmao
>>746668502byeah
>>746668502>*Slosh*
>>746668124
>>746665182Imagine the cartoonish drum sfx that plays when you slap that fat gut
>>746666290If communusts were about economic reform, why would they spend so much time giving women square jaws in video games?
>>746668261You've said what I've been thinking very succinctly for a long time. Paper Mario under Kawade's direction understands that it's trying to adapt a silly cartoony platformer game into a "serious" RPG. It plays things intensely straight (as a RPG would) despite its source material's absurd premise and they understood that there is a comedy in that. It's extremely Japanese in that sense and many Westerners (and Nintendo of America) can't view it in a way that isn't cozy to contemporary politics.
>>746668261>>746669910I was going to call you guys faggots for even responding this this nonsense, but damn that is spot on. Really goes to show no small topic of discussion is worth disregarding, especially when it's used to gaslight people who were molested or raped as kids (truly insidious btw)
>>746666602I concur.
>>746659923To be fair, the culture war was pushed in the localization of this game, so it's a fair topic for /v/.
chaser thread?
>>746671612like bug chasing? fuck off homo
>>746671612If you can pull a dozen images of Marilyn, you might be able to pull it off, anon. I don't have enough...
>>746665182>>746666602
>>746671719what do the moonrunes say? Transgerder? Girlpenis?
>>746671672I could probaby dig up some, but I'm already in my pajamas.
>>746669326that's me, i'm churning in there
>>746670547>>746671054Fuck... I'm suddenly attracted
>>746671902Take it easy then.
>>746669384>blast the Playstation out of Vivian>Vivian reverts to being a boyPlaystation users confirmed for...
>>746672795All of wokeism is unironically a pride cult and troons are the ideological climax of their folly, who could've guessed people truly could be thus sick, and genuinely stomach it.
>Reddit gets shown proof of Vivian being a femboy.>They ban discussions and says "it's open to interpretation".Kek
>>746667579>It's not fair! Only I'M allowed to have free speech!
>>746665182Marilyn on my dick and Vivian on my balls
>>746665102You haven't played the game. It was a recurring gag that Vivian talked about 'us sisters' with the eldest sibling then rebuking him for not being a woman.
it's particularly weird cause it's not exactly a story arc regardless. So it feels propped up only for nothing to exactly come of it.
Does Viv not solely want to be cute and feminine while still being a boy?
>>746659808>Vivian is still a He in the Japanese version of the remakeno he isn'the says I have the heart of a woman and the body of a manhe did not say that in the original
>>746665102Vivian is literally the butt of a joke in comedy trio. You haven't played the game.
I honestly never understood why this character was waifu'd even when I thought they were just a girl.Literally the same body type as Mario.
>>746673856personality, mostlythe belly is a bonus
>>746673783which she leaves and then joins the main crew as an equal. she's only ever made fun of by her sisters. either you didn't play it either or you conveniently "forget" when it suits your narrative
>>746659624I'd like to present her to a gag
>>746672795everything is true except the first one, first one was already dogshit and shouldnt even be a thing
>>746674049She literally goes back to her sisters at the end, non-player.
>>746673856i fell in love with the way she spoke, moved, acted, etc.
>>746673272exactly. and how do they even think not repeating after them is impeding their free speech? you can say your a they/them and the fact that other people say that makes fuck all sense doesnt mean youve been gaggedrewriting shit is actually gagging creators
>>746659624This is a character for pornI beat my meat to pictures of her useless dick flailing around while she's taking it in the ass.I'm not racist or sexist or any kind of whateverphobic when I'm horny.
>*puts transgenders in your kids game*
>>746674976based
>>746659624Only obeast 30 yo uncs care about this btw (by the way)
>>746674049Barely anyone else pays attention her besides the silent protagonist.
>>746660961You only wrote that because of some YouTube faggot
>>746675790you only wrote that because you're a faggot
>>746672216GUH
>>746667682At the very most catholic and not a protestant death cultist
>>746678853MY PURPLE WIFE
>>746678853Imagine wading between those asscheeks to get your dick in while her whole body jiggles with the force of her endlessly gorging her ever growing girth.
>>746669326middle is this perfect vivian proportions, ideal for mating press and handholding
>>746659624I only care about the English version, which the whole point was Vivian being better looking than her sisters. The other two were jelly old hags just putting her down for it. The English version is the only one that matters.
>>746659624Modern nintendo is gigapozzed. What did you expect?
>TTYD retrospective pops on my youtube front page>pretty funny, nice second monitor content>youtuber starts talking about vivian and says "I'm about to say something that's gonna piss off a lot of very stupid people">prolonged rant about how vivian is toootally trans, guyzHow have these retards convinced themselves that a bunch of 45 year old salarymen in 2004 actually wrote a canonically transgender character into a fucking MARIO game for kids? It's mind boggling. They can't actually think this shit.
>>746681225The Lute one, I'm guessing?Vivian is a Japanese version of a shemale, this is a bitter pill to swallow for some people but that is the case. The issue is the intent of the character is not a political message but a roundabout joke. The Japanese conception of cross-gender matters are so radically different from the English notion of "transgender".Anyways any time that comes up in a TTYD video I skip. It's never worth it.
>>746659624>they were always a le gagHoly cope
>>746661709The issue isn't solved by beating them into submission, but by properly educating them with love.
>>746681628That's the one. He had a few edgy jokes in the first half of the video so the vivian shit caught me off guard. He even made a joke about that goombella animation that looks like she's giving mario a sloppy. Turned it off pretty much immediately after that though.I can almost understand how these types have gaslit themselves into thinking the character was originally written to be trans all along because it feeds into the narrative of epic chud Americans localizing out woke japanese dialogue, but it's also incoherent since these types are borderline racist towards japanese people due to their cultural conservatism. It also probably feels bad to admit that the only trans representation in their bing bing wahoo game was literally a fucking gag, so they just lie to themselves and say nintendo randomly became ultra woke just this one time before going back to being evil japanese bigots. Shit's just so dumb, like even if you are pro trans, just admit that it's a retcon or changing the script to be more sensitive to the modern political climate, the gaslighting about how vivian was always trans is cringe as fuck.
>>746665182Hello everyone i love fat women thank you
>>746665182I want to piss into her belleh
>>746682437Same gamer
I hate semantics debates.
>>746672124>Not vivian, he's a dude.
>>746681225I really don't get the mental illness that is "trans allies". Seeing some redditman defending them is especially bizarre, especially since they always talk like they are defending some damsel and with a great deal of smugness. Do these guys want to fuck these dysgenic lumps? Are they still afraid that they will get punished if they call them out? This shit is so bizarre.
>>746659624What was the joke?
>>746685071the one cute one is a dude
>>746659624>Whole gag is about how the younger sibling which is a guy is waaay prettier than his older siblings which are girls and are uggo fuggo and yet they call him uglyThis is such a japanese thing, but no... they had to turn it into some fucking gay shit.
>>746685905Absolute hilarious joke ruined by leftists.
>>746686061MANY SUCH CASES
>>746685027based on all the talks about genocide, i believe they think theyre watching history repeat itself salem style, where if they cant get the stubborn chuds to let go of their illogical belief in the social construct called gender (its not a social construct but a concrete fact when theyre using it) then theyre going to LITERALLY burn all the poor trans girlies at the stake because thats CLEARLY the next logical step when someone gets a word wrong, to kill themthen of course people tell them to fuck off and they take that as confirmation
>>746686330These people are basically religious fundamentalists except they deny having a god and don't have any singular book to debate them over. The progressive view of history is one of the worst things to ever develop.
>>746659624These are the same faggots who will say something like this.They deserve this awnser.
>>746684309>>746669326>>746668502
>>746687174Imagine all the fun they could be having if they just stopped once everything was catering to them and they controlled many things despite being a group of at most a couple thousand.
>>746659624Jewtendo is woke now.
>>746659624A ton of kids fell in love with Vivian on the localized GCN version thinking it was a woman
>>746673776Do ghosts even have bodies? Wtf.
>>746688039Cute
This was the least of the problems. They went through the script with a comb to find everything even slightly offensive.
>>746690295Cool it with the ageism, Bowser.
>>746681628This.Americans literally cannot comprehend the difference. To them, everyone is a troon.
I have a need for Vivianās shadowy purple feet
>>746690879There's was a meme with this picture i don't find.
>>746664429Games don't groom people, people do. Blaming it on vidya is no different than people that profiteer off of blaming vidya makes people violent. Ignorant ass copium.
>>746683367>posts skinny woman off modelNo you don't.
>>746693472Got ya
>>746659808Doesnt matter what you say because there wasnt any solid confirmation in the remake either you fucking assclown. Nintendo bitched out and now you are screaming at people because they dont want to believe your bullshit. As Far as Iam concerned Vivian is a biological woman and no amount of your idiocy is going to change that or how I depict her in my art.
>>746659624what's this general phenomenon of internet autists latching onto fictional characters and projecting their mental disorders onto them called?
>>746695230Narcissism, Most Transfolk are enabled by others to project and enforce themselves onto others, Which is sad I never had a problem with them until I saw the horseshit they were pulling.
>>746659624Vivian is a woman with jealous fugly sisters that bully her.The ugliest one called her a man as a insult.Typical insult an ugly girl says to a pretty girl.Not changing my mind just like how Mario is an American character from Brooklyn and Super Mario Bros is just a Alice in Wonderland cliche or as now known as an isekai.
>>746695778Are you retarded or a leftist (same and worse than being retarded)?
>be character, likes being referred to as a woman, goes around presenting as such.>self-hating anime boymoders; "n-no don't call them trans it's c-completely different". lol lmao even
>>746694779>literal slang term for transgender>literal body/hormone modification>"not trans"okay retard
>>746659624look at her huge belly. is she pregnant?
>>746697858mpreg
How is this thread still up? As a tranny, VIivan is trans, end of story. Her description in the original Japanese (on Gamecube) is that in third person people refer to her as a man, but she refers to herself as a woman.
>>746673272>free speech is latching onto other people's work and rewriting things you disagree with out of existence
>>746673776>the body of a manThat's a he
>>746697538>a japanese term is specifically referring to my hyper-dogmatic western ideas about gender
>>746686330It's always ironic when they're the ones who'll completely ostracize someone at the drop of a hat for the tiniest slip up.Come to think of it, weren't all the so-called witch burnings in Salem a result of jealous women accusing their rivals of witchcraft? Huh.
>>746698681>as a trannyopinion disregarded
>>746698681>HerHim*>but she refers to herself as a woman.He*Himself*And it's treated as a joke
>>746699394>retard thought I meant "otokonoko"
>>746659624Vivian was always a woman. so fuck off you astroturfing Niggers, even in the Japanese original She is a biological female. She is called a boy by Bedlum because Bedlum is being a bitch and saying Vivian is a Man-ish brute. Too bad, Looney troons are too stupid to understand the joke.
Vivian is a woman's name :/if Bedlam were truly a bigot, she wouldn't even respect Vivian's new name and would call her by her male name. That's irrefutable proof the whole trans thing is BS.
>>746700545Amazing, I said "Japanese term", of which there are three, and you decided I meant the one which allows you to act condescending.My post applied to all three. Now that you've got your aggression out of your system with that irrelevant little deflection, allow me to repeat this for you and for Wikipedia:>a japanese term is specifically referring to my hyper-dogmatic western ideas about gender
>>746678853Hi Shweet
>>746700919Beldam being a transphobe is the one part of the whole thing that's genuinely pure headcanon. She IS a bully to Vivian but it's much more in the same vein as "Dr. Robotnik insulting Scratch and Grounder for incompetence" than her being an IRL 4chan user.
>>746703352Beldam being a transphobe is pure headcanon because Vivian being transgender is pure headcanon
