One of the devs was putting malware in his mods, and likely the github for this game since he's the coding dev for combat.
Maltiez is a fag and a nigger. A niggerfaggot if you will.
>>746677102what kind of malware? bitcoin miners? keyloggers? trojans? what?cause like 90% of apprs and programs are malware now, it's just a matter of how much you're willing to tolerate.I mean hell, the shit that google and amazon are doing now would make bonzi buddy blush and look away
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>>746677309Just obfuscated code that would crash the game after a certain amount of time and blame it on some other mod. One of the modders who got mistakenly blamed for the crashes ended up breaking the whole story this morning.
>>746677102>One of the devs was putting malware in his modsexplain, elaborate if you will
>>746677445why are these people like thisinstead of using their talent to make something actually good, they just use it to power trip
>>746677445faggot and a retard, but atleast he has the sense to remove it instead of doubling down when called out for it, so I guess atleast he isn't a double nigger just yet, I think?
alrightwhat's gonna be the drama for reforj?
>>746677493>Maltiez a Dev makes a couple mods that act as basically a lynchpin for multiple mods>it has an anti-cheat that randomly crashes your game, it was also intentionally hidden and obfuscated.>suspiciously also causes crashes with non cheat mods. >gets caught, removes it, and re-adds it afterwards>removes it again after backlash>Turns out he's a dev for the actual game too.>Turns out other devs knew about his malware too.>Sudden change of heart. (but not as this image shows >>746677445 )
>>746677449oh thats pretty shitty
>>746677746
>>746677102Oh look, not allowed to talk about it anymore.
>>746677102>the coding dev for combatIs it the dev for this mod? Because it's utter fucking dogshit and I hate how many content adding mods require it.
>>746677678a lot people want to power trip, sadly. they're mostly the incompetent ones though.
>>746678668Get ready for it to be in the main game bro
>>746677102YOU NEED NEED ME
>Puts malware in your game.>Devs defend him
>>746677449I’m a codelet. What are some ways people obfuscate code?
>/v/ on the side of paid cheat mod
>>746677449I had the top like 50 mods installed and this shit never happened to me
>>746680497That's not what's currently happening, Anon.
>>746680497It's not about the modIt's about the malware not being disclosed. If he had said from the start, btw, there's code in the mod to detect cheat shit, then people wouldn't have a problem because they'd know what was there and why. This brings into question his ethics and makes you wonder if there is other malware in the game code. It's especially bad if he's actively working on the dev team now
>>746678668They're literally implementing it as-is to the base game lmaoThey're shitting on a pile of gold with this game.
>>746677493anon i was actually searching for this specific pic and couldnt find it and got really sad because its one of my favorites considering the history so thank you very much
The good thing is that at least if he tries to do something actually harmful like adding a bitcoin miner or some other shit people will be combing through his releases from now on.
i am glad i never bought this garbage, the devs can suck it if that's how they want to act
So is this fag going to get slapped or are people just gonna keep sucking dick?
>>746680967He'll probably never have the ability to do shit like this again, given the level of autism of the minecraft-adjacent community they'll be scouring every line of code he writes for the rest of his life.
>>746677102do you use windows? any google service? youtube? twitter? instagram?do you have a smartphone?if you answered yes to any of these, then i have bad news for you
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>>746677746doesn't really sound like malware tho>a mod were all it does is crash the game immediatelywould this be malware too?
>>746680215>>746680686What the fuck is wrong with block game developers?Why do they always get retarded out of nowhere regardless of how good their work had been?
>>746681552It's more the fact that the devs are ok with this idiot adding shit without telling the community
>>746678668Is he really the dev for this shit?
>>746681552The mod falsified log reports to obfuscate where the crashes come from. That's 100% malware behavior.
>>746681662But it's a mod we're talking about, right? he didn't actually sneak this into a release of the game?Unless you're talking about a different sort of thing, like game features that are clearly his pet project, halfbaked, and yet still shipped
>>746681739He's the main combat dev for the game
>>746681719>100% malware behaviorYeah, I agree. Still not malware though.>"any software built on purpose to harm, disrupt, or steal data"The crime, officer?
>>746681739The fact the absolute nigger works on the dev team people have a right to be concerned with this behavior.
>>746681794Disrupt.
>>746681794Crashing a game is literally disruptive. We've seen this exact shit in other mods in other games where it would crash the client if it detected a "rival" mod installed. FF14 had that problem years ago
>>746681816>>746682093Disrupt... data? What data? :)
>>746682183Ice cream? I love Ice cream!
>>746682183Fuck off Lore. Nobody likes you and you shouldn't have been put back together again.
>>746682183Games are data
>>746680686>>746679564>how about instead of reworking the combat of the game that's in desperate need of a total overhaul, we instead double down and make it so the hit detection is even worse and swings require model collision with NPC's to deal damage (while enemies still have set ghost reach) making kiting and weaving unnecessarily more difficult, feel inconsistent, and feel worse because your model moving makes it so you miss your attacks more often>also your damage is significantly reduced depending on where you hit their body increasing the amount of time you're engaged in the shitty feeling combatdogshit fucking idea that's only been backed like it has because it's grandfathered this far from being the first attempt at fixing it and other people attaching their mods to it
Am I missing anything if I turn off temporal stability? I go down into my mineshaft and mine rocks for a few minutes but if I stay too long I get 2-shot by some deep fucker. I can leave,run a few minutes away to the closest "Stable" area and stand around for five minutes while waiting to stop being insane. This seems like a stupid massive time sink for no purpose other than to waste time. Is there some mechanic I missed to make it not so tedious?
>>746682858This, but unironically.
>>746682978The whole game is an autistically tedious circle jerk.If you want to play a game and not a second job turn off all that shit
>>746677690Look at his attitude in his replies. He does not think he fucked up, and probably didn't even remove it but just hid it again.
>>746680757And the even better thing is if he does that, the dev team will support him.
>>746683213Autists never think they're wrong
>>746682093That's basically what it does. It's not just blacklisting cheat mods, it's anything maltiez doesn't approve of. This includes competing mods and mods belonging to authors he has a grudge against (like the caves n caverns guy). He has a history of doing shitty narcisstic shit like this and generally being unstable
>>746680675Even ignoring the ethics, if you go hiding code and the code is shit or simply not working as intended and causes issues it's much harder to fix, if at all by anyone else on the team. Not to mention AAA anti-cheat regularly detects non-cheats as cheats, false positives are so fucking easy, the notion that some vintage story modder created an anti-cheat that *never* has false positives and never unnecessarily crashes peoples games is absurd.>>746683213>Look at his attitude in his replies. He does not think he fucked up, and probably didn't even remove it but just hid it again.100%, he's barely even sorry that he got caught, he's not sorry in the least that he did it and the team isn't holding him accountable in the least. That sort of behaviour almost always results in them doing it again but just learning from their initial mistake which was getting caught and not the act itself.
He had the code in OverhaulLib and PlayerModelLib as well
>>746681719Yep. That's a bog standard malware behavior, alright.
>>746683591Do we know how far back this shit goes? Had constant bullshit crashes a while back with caves n caverns and world gen
>>746683776>Do we know how far back this shit goes?Every version since 2018~
>>746683905Kek wow
>>746683717>>746683213i hate spergs like this so much. just remove their access to the internet forever for the sanity of everyone else
>>746683717this guy is a vibecoding retard who only caught this because claude is smart enough to read a stacktrace. his initial 'evidence' for the malware was a 600 line claudeslop md file he left completely unedited. the reason that the maltiez mod crashed him is because he obscufates his vibecoded mods and the obscufated method signatures just happened to match the ones from the cheat client (this is not that uncommon)
>>746681773.....Why is a dev of the game making mods to improve the combat? Why not just do it properly and official since the majority of people agree the combat is dogshit?
>>746683717>>746684228and by the way the code only existing since about 9 months ago when that guy with the paid cheat client was niggering around with it. he didnt have the crash code in 7 year old versions of his mods and you can easily look and verify this. this guy is just a retarded vibecoder
>>746684382He got hired after being a modder. The Indie Stone approach.
>>746684382I forgot everyone on /v/ is literally retarded
>>746683976>Kek wowReally just goes to show how fucking easy it is to hide malicious code in amateur projects.In this case it's not particularly malicious code, but safe bet there are other games out there with shit that that is incredibly malicious, who knows maybe what they caught in vintage story isn't even the worst of it.The devs really should be taking this a bit more seriously and approaching it in a more professional manner given they are selling a commercial product.
>>746677102>discord users having a discord moment to the detriment of othersWhat a shame, I only just recently heard of this game too. Alas.
>>746680536>code set to only crash if you use a cheatLearn to read retard.
So the main devs of the game knew he was adding an "anti-cheat" but also an "anti any mods I don't like" portion to his mod, and thought "this is fine. Let's bring him on and 'review' code with trust?" Fucking wild.It's amazing the huge ego or amount of extra chromosomes he has to respond like he did nothing wrong.
>>746684676>and thought "this is fine. Let's bring him on and 'review' code with trust?" Fucking wild.This is every bit as concerning as what he did honestly.
>>746684676They also banned discussion about the issue lmao.
>>746684495Sorry it still has dawned on rone that this is a game with over a million paying customers given which means he takes forever to release updates, refuses to adopt a sensible team structure, and likes to "hire" vibecoder trash instead of actual professionals. At the very least this might be a wakeup call since this most recent incident kind of threatens to toilet both his and the game's reputation
This is really good. Malware Story is forever tarnished.
>>746685073SPREAD THAT SALT ANON
>>746684676>So the main devs of the game knew he was adding an "anti-cheat" but also an "anti any mods I don't like" IIRC, maltiez approached them last February about adding his anticheat to the basegame and they told him no, because they thought anticheat systems were intrusive and vulnerable to abuse. So he went ahead and added it to his mods and I guess proved them right. We don't actually know what he told them, but they at least knew he wanted to do this shit. He probably blacklisted mods he disliked under the cover of anticheat, which is obviously what he was planning to do with his main branch version. It's not really a stretch to think he wanted to monopolize the mod db by blacklisting creators and projects.
>>746685276>>746677856They flat out say that he told them about it months ago and that they still trust him.
>was looking forward to Vintage Story someday>now I know to steer clear foreverHytale for life I guess.
>>746680454You kinda don't need to.XZ Utils fiasco proved no one reads the source code thoroughly and only realize something is off during execution.Just put a comment giving a false idea of what the malicious lines do and pray no autismo notices the game takes milliseconds longer to load than it's supposed to.
>>746685783thats not obfuscated, thats just a minimum viable code.
Sensational bullshit calling it malwareI don't really care, as long as it's not fucking with my files or stealing my data/ compute.Not really a big deal, who cares.
>>746685963It's a slippery slopeIf you allow this, then it's one step closer to allowing malware that does actually look at your unrelated files
>>746681337>windowsno, linux>googleno, theres plenty of alternatives>youtubeno, invidious takes care of that>twitterfuck no>instagramyou're really reaching for anything of relevancy, still no>smartphonenope0/6 now what?
>>746685963>I don't really care, as long as it's not fucking with my filesHow do you know it's not? It was hidden for 8 years and lied about, but you're going to assume all the malicious code has been found and they're suddenly going to be honest?Seriously?
>>746685963It fits the definition of malware, it's malware. >as it's not fucking with my filesCrashing the game when it notices a rival mod isn't fucking with your files?
>>746686084bitchless post
If it checked my other files I hope dude likes dolphin and copious amounts of furry porn
>>746677102>>746677445Do these retards understand how many laws they've broken by doing this shit? They absolutely need to be taking it way more seriously than they are.>Selling software that secretly installs malware without explicit, unambiguous consent amounts to fraud, misrepresentation, breach of contract, and product liability.
So it was a code that detected if you’re cheating in a multiplayer server and kicks you?Isn’t that a good thing? Cheating in multiplayer is bad
>>746686295what is blud yappening about multi server -5 aura debt
>>746686186Rather be bitchless than a surveillance bitchboy.
>>746686295No one is complaining about that retardo
>>746686290>Do these retards understand how many laws they've broken by doing this shit?I'm pretty sure they have some clue, hence why they're censoring discussion of it lol
>>746686290No one is going to do shit If they do it'd be based but we know no one will
>>746686490I mean reporting them to whatever EU consumer rights group they report to would be free.
>>746685774How's that game's development coming along?
All its gonna take is one dramatuber to make a video on it to doom their small indie studio. That's why they're trying to keep it quiet.
Obfuscating your tracks by fucking with the log is pretty insane. Regardless if you're doing something actually harmless or not, this is a bad bad bad bad precedent for a dev team member.
>>746686660Its a bit fucking late for that.
This reminds me of Starsector's modding malware discord "drama". How do we know this isn't PresidentMattDamon's alter ego?
>the retard of tyrone has a team full of other retardsno way
Why is it so hard for developers and companies to NOT put malware in their things?
>>746677102>>746677445Hilariously unprofessional and criminal behavior.
>>746686653Its coming along well, got update 6 yesterday, adding an in-game mod browser and a lot of background improvements, including new physics for players and entities letting players, which is letting people make bosses you fight by standing on them.Next week they're gonna start working on Chapter 1 of the story.
>>746685963It's objectively malware and the only meaningful difference is the bad actor had a very niche goal. If this hasn't been caught and the dev got increasingly unhinged or cocky then it could have been a lot worse
>Anticheat that doesn't effect anything else on your desktop is malware.
>>746677856>our trust has not been breachedAnd that of the paying customers? Maltiez should be sacked, his commits pulled and every line of code reviewed, anything less opens them up to legal prosecution.Imagine if Windows included code that intentionally made it crash when it detected a competing app or some other bullshit.
>>746687978Listen anon, I know it's hard to accept, but keeping someone like this around on the development team is a disaster waiting to happen.I get it, you've spent so much time in this game, but other anons haven't, and this is a deal breaker for them.
>>746687978>>Anticheat that doesn't effect anything else on your desktop is malware.You know a game crashing can corrupt critical system files, critical windows files etc, right?
programming a game to shut down when it detects cheating is not malware, this is simply not the correct usage of the term
>>746687978>this thing that perfectly fits the definition of malware isnt malware because it just isn't okay?!
>>746688309And detects competing mods
>>746688309good thing your're not in charge
>>746688309>programming a game to shut downProgramming a client to crash, potentially damaging system files, is the very definition of malware, withholding that information from customers is fraud, and keeping around the team member responsible for it is stupidity beyond comprehension.
>>746688309Its based and correct thoughbeitbhGaymerniggers deserve to get fucked forever
>>746688309The problem is in shoving it into an unrelated mod and not disclosing it.Further, having it change crash logs.Neither of which should be cause for trust that he's being honest about what it is actually doing.If this were a server-side mod that foils an anti-cheat, yeah the cheat might be able to more quickly get around it, but then at least people know what they're installing.AND it allows it to be bug-tested and built-upon much easier. Assuming it isn't also sending descrete, accurate crash logs to the programmer as well.
>>746688228>I get it, you've spent so much time in this game,Stop projecting, redditspacing retard, I booted it up once and figured I'd wait till it was finished.>>746688282>a game crashing can corrupt critical system filesSo all buggy releases are malware, got it.
>>746688309>malware is software that is intentionally hostile, intrusive, or damaging to a computer or networkHow is programming a game to shut down not intentionally hostile and intrusive? How is it not possibly damaging to a computer?>BBBUT IT ONLY DOES IT FOR CHEATSLol has nothing to do with it malware or not. Crazy how no other anticheat crashes games they just ban you, even kernel level anticheat isn't crashing games on purpose.
>>746688480>So all buggyIt was intentionally coded to crash.It wasn't a bug, it was a feature.
>>746688480>redditspacingThis is just acknowledgement you've lost the argument, no one is going to buy vintage story now.
>>746688548It was also manipulating the crash log to hide the fact it was crashing the game. The fags attempting to run damage control ITT are so sad.
>>746686290>>746687624>NYOOO THIS IS ILLEGAL, YOU CANT JUST DETECT A CHEAT AND CLOSE THE GAMEChink/Ruskie cheating scum really aren't sending their best..
You idiots do realize blaring the alarms going MALWARE MALWARE makes this seem like a much more harmful situation than it actually is, right?
>>746688746No shit, i want this game dead in the ground
>crashcode because of inane shitStarsector, anybody? I’m more convinced that Maltiez guy is probably PMD, a modder in SS who made a craschode against Rapesector
>overhaullib maltiez slopcodeHis libraries themselves are basically cheatmods with how exploitable they are lol
>>746688309>>746688329It is, by-definition and execution, malware. >>2898506
>>746677690>>746680252>>746686290>>746687624t. Cheating fucking retards who got exposed
>>746688893Wouldn't surprise me.But this is a pretty common type of retardation, unfortunately.
>>746688746If they're willing to let that slide, who knows what else they're willing to let happen?
>>746688992OopsThe implementation:1. Activates only when running as a multiplayer client.2. Enumerates all assemblies loaded into the application's `AppDomain`.3. Fingerprints loaded assemblies using hard-coded CRC32 values.4. Performs an additional heuristic check for obfuscated assemblies by measuring the percentage of type and member names shorter than three characters.5. When its detection conditions are satisfied, schedules execution after a pseudo-random delay.6. Deliberately modifies unrelated internal Vintage Story client state in ways capable of causing crashes, disconnects, broken networking, corrupted UI state, and other intermittent failures.7. Silently catches and discards exceptions throughout the detection path, making the resulting failures substantially more difficult to diagnose.It is designed to disrupt the user and their workstation without their knowledge and intentionally evade troubleshooting
>throw a hissyfit after being told by the devs you can't implement your anti-cheat>hide malware in your mod that is a requirement for tons of other mods>malware that is intentionally left out of the mod's open source repository>malware that disguises the source of the crashes it causesSurely this guy should be employed by Anego and trusted with the game's codebase!
Genuine health advice: If you care about literally any of this, go outside for a bit, breath some fresh air, do your laundry.
>>746677445>>746677746>>746677449This is not malware.
Remember when these retards tried to capitalize on Hytale's cancellation and announce their own Hytale clone, only to be btfo and forgotten instantly when Hytale was revived? I can't wait to play it!
>>746689374I just did. As a matter of fact, I nearly got hit head-on by a Visa-American in a white Tesla, got screamed at and recorded by a Boomer for "parking in front of his driveway", and pulled over by a cop for a "worn out license plate". Why would you not stay in and play video games?
>>746689284Lol it's even worse than that. He apparently included it in pretty much all of his library mods in order to tag as many users as possible. Even worse, it seems like it wasn't strictly cheat mods, but projects and authors he had petty grievances against.
>>746689374thank you for your concern esl, but us first-worlders generally have washing machines that do our laundry for us
>>746689393>>Malware, short for malicious software, is any program, code, or firmware intentionally designed to damage, disrupt, or gain unauthorized access to computer systems, networks, or data without the owner's knowledge>intentionally obfuscated code that crashes the game client upon detecting a cheat mod or mod Meltys doesn't like>not malware
>>746687326this isn't really comparable at all the VS malware was targeting cheat clients on MP servers and only hit another mod through pure coincidence
>>746677445>>746677746>>746677449This is malware.
>>746689504Listen, I typo'd breathe as breath, I'm not ESL, I'm regular retarded. Putting laundry in the machine still counts are "Doing the laundry".
playing this game after a long time, how has the warp mechanic changed?what happened to the big gear
>>746689526You realize the anti-cheat shit is a cover for him to eliminate competitors right? Anti-cheat solutions already exist for VS. If it was actually about le cheating he wouldn't need to hide it. Maltieze is a narcissist who has a history of public maltdowns and has targeted invidual users in the past. You can probably browse his comment history and see some of the nasty messages he's left on other mods.
>>746689807you're brain dead
>>746689526>>746689836you dont play the game
>>746689807>a cover for him to eliminate competitors rightI'm now reminded that this shit happens so much in the ARMA modding scene it's absurd
>>746689836Hi Maltieze
>>746689886Halo maps was especially egregious.
>>746689886qrd?
>>746690049How the fuck does Halo maps have anti other mod shit in them??
hell yeah fuck cheatersget obfuscated scrubs
>>746690135there's more but the 2 big ones that occurred were1.there were a few competing Warhammer 40k mods and one of the big ones can super asss mad and decided that it would crash your game if you tried running the other ones he didn't like2. Same thing happened again with different people but with different Halo modsand because this is all on steamworkshop, both instances resulted in the mods being removed by moderation for malware, it still happens tho
hell yeah fuck malware scammerget fucked spiritually israeli loser
is there a /v/ serb?
>>746687978>>746689526>and only hit another mod through pure coincidenceIt wouldn't surprise me if it's been causing false positives for other peoples mods and they've just not known what the problem was since he's been shirking responsibility the entire time
>>746690447Probably, I know for sure there's probaly like a /vg/ one
>>746690302Was this only arma 3 or reforger too?I remember some fag made one that gramps unfortunately hosted
>>746689526what is blud yappening about multi server -5 aura debt
>>746690485only like 2 other people obfuscated their mods and its random whether or not your obfuscated mod has a hash collision with the cheat client
>>746689526Damn some of you anons you dumb as hell and just parroting shit other dumbasses said. It hit multiple mods btw. Entire servers of people unable to play because of his "anti cheat".
>>746690447There is a /vm/ serb and thread. Come join. We just had a pub crawl night and there's a new town down souf growing rapidly.
tyrone and his minions are stupid so no surprise there but if I have to point the finger at someone would be the ponyfag who hacked a bunch of servers some time ago and I wouldn't be surprised if he was the reason why the retarded dev decided to add the malware in the first place>>746690447/vm/ has a server but last time I checked there was stupid drama /mlp/ also has a server
>>746690578you are the samefag parroting completely false information
>>746677102if you have time to put malware, the add actual river to the game.
>>746690515ARMA 3, however I would not be surprised if it also happened in Reforger
>>746690603Are either server pvp? If I went on their and started killing people would I get banned?
>>746690603its not a ponyfag but there was an extremely loud retard selling a cheat client late last year that is the direct reason this shit was put in
>>746690596>>746690603oh nah i want a /v/ serb, not a serb where the spawn is at the artic.
>>746690596you don't want /v/ermin on the server just read the thread and tell me these people aren't clinically retarded
I honestly don't see the problem that they have a measure against cheating, especially in multiplayer.Especially when all other devs apparently knew of it as well if >>746677746 is correct.
>>746690623t.Maltieze
>>746677690you shouldn't trust a person like this ever again
>>746690678LOLas if any of that shit matters when right now I can hop on any server with overhaul lib and start instant killing everyone on it using bugs in maltiez's dogshit library
>>746689807This has happened so many times with mods that I 100% do not believe it was an accident or purely good-intentioned. Most big mod scenes have death with a control freak inserting malware into his mods at some point. Saying you were only trying to stop hackers is on the same level of excuse as "my brother was using my account" or "my dog ate my homework". How many times have we seen this before? Seriously. Honestly even if he said "it wasn't me" without elaborating it'd be more believable. The shaggy defense.
>>746690739what is blud yappening about multi server -5 aura debt
But hey, maybe this drama cripples profit, forcing them to finally go on steam.
>>746690771tyron is way less retarded about the mod scene here than dipshits like the starsector dev who let people do way worse in the open for years
>>746690771>have deathhave dealt*
>>746690696The spawn is in the norf but there's a road that leads directly south, including a tl route which can take you to the tropics in like 5-10 minutes. People are usually on to give you directions and provide hospitality. There's also a weekend modded serb organized by some of the users from the community if you get bored of vanilla. It rotates themes, currently it's doing an industrial one.
>>746690818r.dditors are taking it more seriously than pisscord or /v/ is so hopefully it does lose money and get on steam kek
'pologise
>>746690696if you join the serb someone could show you the way souf and give you a couple TGs for your respawn
>>746690731It's an open invitation. Anyone besides discord trannies are welcome to come hangout.
>>746677102this is literally fuckin nothingthe shit I used to put in my minecraft mods back in 2012 would get me put in the guillotine
>>746691189nah
>>746690672>If I went on their and started killing people would I get banned?you will probably get killed first due to equipment difference and will probably get spawncamped and called a nigger until you behave or leave, griefing shit will most likely get you banned>>746690678I'm 80% sure is the same guy and I swear he is a ponyfag
>>746691345no I know the ponyfag who has his own cheat client and it bypasses maltiez's anticheat thing because it uses actual clientfag techniques unlike the loud retard's vibecoded slop
>>746691246fuggin yea cun'darkcomet my beloved
>>746691394nah retard
>>746684586>it was crashing regardless of people cheating or notLearn to read retard.
>>746691628he can't.
>>746691345>you will probably get killed first due to equipment difference and will probably get spawncamped and called a nigger until you behave or leave, griefing shit will most likely get you bannedIf you have overhaul lib installed as a mod I can run around invincible and also instant kill people across the map. I have my own aimbot too which is fun. Also I'm guessing tyrone still hasn't fixed flyhacking or teleporting yet?
>>746691619I'll have you know that's a very insensitive word to use, if retards could read it they'd be very upset
>>746689492That's always the direction that shit goes and why it needs to be clamped down on hard the nanosecond it shows up. Really disappointed in the devs here.
>>746677309>what kind of malware?Probably Steam.
>>746691392>it bypasses maltiez's anticheat thingRemember fairplay guardian? You can also easily bypass that as well. What's with dogshit pseud mod makers weaseling their way onto the dev team?
>>746691838fairplay guardian never claimed to not be bypassable it just blocks you from installing mods the server owner doesnt wantobviously cheat clients bypass that since they are not mods
Yet another modder moment™But this one managed to be so much worse, wtf VS devs
>>746687978it is by definition malware, and incredibly malicious
>>746689492>but projects and authors he had petty grievances against.It just keeps happening.
I couldn't give a fuck about the malware issue, I'm more concerned about this nigger implementing his dogshit combat mod into the base game
>>746692241>it just blocks you from installing mods the server owner doesnt wantAnd it doesn't work since I can bypass it easily.>obviously cheat clients bypass that since they are not modsOh honey, you don't know anything about cheat mods and mod cheat forks do you? lol
>>746677445Sounds like he was doing the right thing by fucking over cheaters.
Move on guys
>>746692883They want to scrub it but someone should complain to the eu fraud board
>>746692873the only reason this came to light is because it was triggering false positives on normal ass mods, retard-kun
>>746692971So?
>>746693170*refunds*
>>746692948>"wow that's crazy, how much money did you lose?">$0 bbut->"$0?">thread closed
>>746692883>>746693170Yeah they're not treating this shit with the seriousness they should.
>>746692883>>746693170i really want these devs gaped just to correct this behavior
>>746693170Nice refund time
>>746693062fucking over random non-cheat mods is not the "right" thing to do
>>746692883>>746693170so thats why they're not on steamsteam dodged a bullet
>>746693170Kek look at this faggotWhat is the actual dev saying? Or just keeping quiet as this fire burns down his house?
>>746692873The problem is that isn't for him to decide. If he wants to make a mod for that, great. He should make it and the server admins will add it at their discretion. He instead took it upon himself to add it and not tell anyone. Letting people know he made something to stop cheaters would make him a hero, but instead he wanted to hide it, because he wanted to power trip. Any time anyone complained about crashes, he could think to himself "heh, they don't know that I caught them cheating. This is so hilarious!" What if one day the dude snapped, realized that no one knew about his code and could use it to install keyloggers? You don't trust people like this. They never have altruism in mind, they are one bad day from deciding they are OWED shit and will take it and they have the means to do it.
>>746692883>>746693170
>>746693682Trust the process
>>746693965Kek the Israeli flag
>>746693965Welp, game dead. Time to move on. I am predicting 3 years before it gets found out that files in the game were keylogging and these faggots get sued into oblivion. The appropriate response should have been.>You did WHAT? Nope, get lost. Your mod is banned and you're fired. Jerry, we need to get ahead of this. Put out notice to modders and anyone that downloaded his mods. Make sure that he didn't put that shit in base game code
If you aren't requesting a refund for the game with Maltiez as the reason, you're just performatively whining.
>>746693965>29 troon flagsWHY ARE THEY EVERYWHERE
>>746694342Can't refund what I never paid for Arrgh
>was 1/4 way through writing some smut with a faunling from the feverstone wilds mod>if i ever finish it there'll be no more VS threads to post it in after this dramaWelp
>>746677690He removed it... THEN ADDED IT AGAIN, then removed it because main devs told him to.
>Vintage story>CheatsI guess there is xray but what else?
>>746680497And other mods he didnt like, not only cheat mods.
>>746694569You dont get it Vintage Story is absolutely filled with cheaters running around with aimbots killing people and instantly deleting builds
>>746688309>programming a game to shut down when it detects cheating is not malwareBased in virustotal samples it 100% is.
>>746677445eh, you know, kinda based even
So what's going to be done about it?
>>746694358You sure it's not 29 people using it to call the dev a fag?
So is anyone trying to get a news site to pick up the story, or are you all just bitching here?
>>746694923After seeing the way people spam that shit on every other game's updates, yes I'm (sadly) sure
>>746694941What a shame.
>>746685774oh right hytale was a thing once
>>746694569It wasn't about cheats. That's just Maldiez's excuse. He had beef with other modders and made code to crash the game if their mods were installed. Just like fucking Arthmoor did in Skyrim. He just wants people to think it was about multiplayer cheating, when we know this shit crashed singleplayer worlds too. Dude even targeted mods that changed textures for color blind people. He's a fucking douche.
>>746695171ok so what mods did it interact with then
>>746695218ok but did you not know what mods it did not interact with then
>>746695315you're the one positing that he sabotaged other non cheat mods with his code, the burden on proof is on you
>>746681794>The crime, officer?Imagine if iphone would just brick up after you install non-apple app until you remove it if not going down the slop to brick it up permanently taking your money away and forcing you to buy a new one like the good goy they want you to be. This is a precedence to this behavior considering it's very much infringing on the right to mod belongings. Just because it may be tricky for software, imagine if you couldn't mod the actual consoles you own.
>>746695218I know for sure it interacted with a random caverns and cave modhttps://mods.vintagestory.at/cavesncaverns
>>746695378you're the one positing that he did not do anything wrong with his malicious code, the burden on proof is on you
>>746677102>One of the devs was putting malwarewhy
>>746689005It's a minecraft clone nigga
>>746694358>be a porn addict>develop agp>go full retard and turn yourself into a freak to chase the high>can't leave home out of shame of what you let turn yourself into>become a terminally online reclusethen they spend all the time they now have to groom others to join their cult. circle of death
>>746697574tranny shenanigans, a delayed estrogen order maybe
>>746677102too bad, i liked the game. time to nuke my dedicated and get rid of all the files on my ssd
>>746686290Sony got away with it why shouldn't xe?
>>746698131>drinking a coffee to down melatonin and other sleep pillsLmao
>>746698131totally not a severe mental illness btw
>>746677102The true reason these niggers refused to put their game on steam, so they can deny refunds and act like nothing happened.
>>746687326alex actually put his foot down for once with that at least
uh oh, the dev team knew...
>publicly confirm you let someone put malicious code into your game and defend himHeir lawyer is probably writing his resignation right now.
>>746691189difference is you weren't a member of the dev team hiding shit in your mods
>>746689374and read a book
who the fuck cares about cheating in a fucking Vintage Story?
>>746699253Nobody, it was just a good cover for eliminating undesirables.
>>746677746>make 'anti-cheat'>it just outright crashes the game when detecting certain behavior>this behavior can occur in regular mods not used in cheatsWhat an absolute retard, this cockgobbling troglodyte used a method that can easily produce false positives to effectively break your game until you uninstall someone else's mod and called it an 'anti-cheat'.This was never about an 'anti-cheat', given his behavior he's absolutely one of those ego driven modniggers that thinks they're the hottest shit because they cooked up a janky solution to do something no one else had, and probably did this intentionally to break other mods and keep people using his instead.And now he's an official staff member.
>>746677102Every mod that obfuscates itself should be called out and assumed to be malware because the only reason you would do it is to prevent people from understanding what you're doing - which shouldn't bother you if you're not being nefarious. For example, this mod runs a fucking virtual machine in LUA and you have no idea what is ultimatively happen to your device and game as a result of that:https://www.nexusmods.com/palworld/mods/3483Outside of that I have no particular opinion about people adding a piece of code that disconnects you if it sees another mod like a cheat loaded, like who cares as long as it is within the constraints of the game api, but people who obfuscate mods to make it intentionally hard for people to audit them and guarantee its safety should be publicly shamed
>>746699617there was that stalker mod that had encoded mod files AND save filesauthor also sold ingame items for real money
Almost bought the game a week ago and now this. Dodged a bullet.
>>746699617>Every mod that obfuscates itself should be called out and assumed to be malware because the only reason you would do it is to prevent people from understanding what you're doing - which shouldn't bother you if you're not being nefarious.You're right, but they'll bitch and complain that people might 'reupload modified versions of their mod' like it's a bad thing.You have no clue how much ego is tied up in the shitty hacked together mods that get slightly popular.I remember a gun mod for minecraft where the second it got popular, the dev changed their pfp to their face shopped onto Steve Jobs and relicensed it from MIT to all rights reserved.
>>746677746What a narcisssistic turnofag. Average modder I guess
>We had a good thing going to stupid son of a bitch! We had Vintage, we had Story. We had everything we needed and it ran like clockwork. You could've shut your mouth, modded, and gotten as much money as you needed. It was perfect! But no, you just had to post malware. You and your pride and your ego. You just had to be a power tripping retard. If you'd done your job, known your place, we'd all be fine right now.
someone posted this on their discord and got banned almost instantly lol
>>746694908
>>746695315>>746695478niggerish behavior
>>746700350you WILL do whatever we wantand you will be GRATEFUL that were allowing you to play OUR game
>>746700563i agree, the malicious modder is exactly that.
>>746693170Kek what a powertripping nigger
>>746677678>modders not taking the opportunity to powertripAnon, how long have you been around ANY modding community?
>>746700725i was calling you a nigger but you do you
So what's the prognosis? New update this year or the next? I'm not starting a new save if it's releasing in a month lol.
>>746700830i was calling that too as well as you too but here we are.
>>746688282lol no, dumb retard
>>746681593It's weird, but if you're a content producer of any kind, you'll start hating your fans and you'll do little things just to spite them.
>>746701037This is only true of people that create for money.I run servers for different games for a small community I've been a part of for ages, I regularly have to unfuck old mods, fixed corrupted player data, spend hours trying to figure out why shit breaks randomly, and so on.I don't hate the people I do it for, even if they get pissy about shit breaking from time to time.
>>746688309>if one day windows detects chrome, firefox, brave, etc. operating instead of edge and shuts them down for being unsupported third party browsers it would not be malware
just submitted a refund
>>746700438lmaoI love that format
>>746701419They used to do that all the time before anti-trust stepped in and made them play ball with the NSA before they were allowed to keep getting away with it.>install windows on either CP/M or DOS>install on DOS works fine>install on CP/M detects it's not DOS and throws a bogus error mid install
Why are modders the most autistic fucks out there 90% of the time?And as modders I mean the people making them.
>>746695315>cheaters can't answer this one simple question
>play solo with a friend with vanilla onlyNot my problem
>>746701670He's a dev, who says he isnt hiding shit in the mainfiles?
>>746701625>they buffed bears so you can’t just cheese them anymore
>>746701616They make a few janky mods, then assume they're literally a game developer.>make wonky hack job to implement something new>it's kinda cool and mostly works>WOW I'M BASICALLY A REAL GAME DEVELOPER!>from this point, their ego will only continue to inflate until reaching critical mass, and either doing something stupid or suffering complete ego death
>>746701616I think big part of it is that a lot of them are socially reclusive and chronically online. They rarely ever interact with people in person so they don't have to deal with or learn from the anxieties and consequences that comes from real face to face interactions, especially when you're doing shitty things. This is what makes them so overly confident and extremely egoistical
>"""malware""">makes a game client crash to desktop if you cheat or install one or two other mods out of thousands of other mods>these specific mods can't be named but they definitely exist >50% of most mods crash due to just being coded by retards>which might even be the case here>installing more than ten mods involves VS crashing multiple times before you find a balance anywaythis is such a nonsense thing for you cheating spergs to cause drama about god damn just uninstall the mod and move on
>>746701794getting them into a pond and swimming around them doesn't work? are they quicker in water now? I haven't played since 1.20
>>746701969Hi Maltiez, your fall damage calculation is still retarded.
>>746693062Kill yourself, you disingenuous faggot
>>746700883esl moment
>>746702009All animals are 200% faster in water now
>>746677445>shitscord user is insane and evilWow what a surprise
>>746701969>>"""malware"""maltiez literally called it malware himself in his apology>>crashes if you cheat or install one or two modsthe check was "does this mod have too many short names"that's a generic obfuscation check, not a cheat list>hit normal mods and private servers with zero cheaters on them>>50% of mods crash because they're coded badlyyes, that's the point, it waited a random delay, corrupted unrelated client state and ate its own exceptions so the log showed nothingbuilt specifically to look like one of those crashespeople bisected mod lists for hours over a crash that was intentional>>just uninstall itit's configlib, half the mod db depends on itnobody installed an anticheat, they installed a config lib and got one smuggled in>removed it>retracted the fix with "actually nvm I'm leaving this code in">removed it again after the devs stepped inchangelog: "if you don't know which code, don't worry about it"
>>746702172cool, I always optimize FUN out of my games, I need stuff like this for it to be exciting fuck
>>746702229>>746702172You can change animal's swim speed to normal in the world options
>>746702221>it's configlib, half the mod db depends on itbs, I have 50+ mods and none of them use itname one mod that uses it that you couldn't live without
>>746701969>Malware (a portmanteau of malicious software) is any software intentionally designed to cause disruption or destruction to a computer, server, client, or computer network, leak private information, gain unauthorized access to information or systems, deprive access to information, or interfere with the user's computer security and privacy without their knowledge.It's malware
How do I pirate this?
>>746702009You used to be able to kite bears easily, especially as hunter. This is no longer the case anymore. Bears are scary again
>>746702363wtf i love malware now?
>>746702384flicking my finger on your forehead is violence cry about it
>>746702448I refundeded:)
>>746702398Fplay roo
So with Malty's obvious malicious and deranged behavior and regards towards fellow devs, how has he not been perma banned from VS and his Mods blacklisted? clearly the guy needs to be cauterized out of this game, it certainly doesnt need some major double niggerfaggot like him shiting up the whole space for everyone
>>746702572because the other devs are to blame also, they know they're in the shit with him
>>746702559but then all the vintage story cheaters (which there are countless of btw, this is definately not just malicous code to fuck over mods i dont like) would know!
>>746702221>redacted to remove malware>reason: I wouldn't worry about it :)>note: I put it back in because fuck youIf this guy's not fired by the next update I'm refunding the game.I don't give a shit how much of the combat update is riding on him, anyone willing to quietly add malicious code to their mod in an obfuscated way is not someone that should have access to the main codebase for any game.He's demonstrated that he can't be trusted to do the job with any level of transparency or integrity, if he were just another mod dev it'd be one thing and could be written off as someone throwing a shitfit, but he's literally on the development team and must be held to a higher standard.
>>746702572This happened just yesterday, lead dev probably needs some time to figure out what is actually going on to avoid making a retarded knee jerk reaction
>>746689514>NOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST OBFUSCATE CODE
>>746702796good goy
>>746702631>this is definately not just malicous code to fuck over mods i dont like)what is this schizobabblepost evidenceI need to see the drama unfold fully
I wish we had thread ids. The damage control is so fucking funney.
>>746702572>hytale devs desperate to sabotage the new combat gameplay dev of their only real rival
>>746702930nobody cares about hytale anymore
>>746688309 If tbat was what it actually did, you might have half an argument.
>install cool cave mod>game starts crashing because some other modder put malware in his modawesome
>>746703062>other modderpart of the official dev team*
>>746703082true, but he started out as a modder and him getting added to the team was relatively recent
>>746703082His game his code his terms. How about you stop making mods that defy the official team's vision? Most games don't let you mod at all.
>>746702628aren't anti-cheat measures easily countered unless obfuscated?I appreciate them trying to do something about the griefers but holy shit did it backfire
>>746703160not his game thoughbeit
Vintage Story bros where do we go from here?
>>746689836Smart enough to use the correct form of you're, too dumb to use a capital letter. Wow.
>>746688746Tolerance is a specification not a virtue.
>>746691046FIX MOJANG BEDROCK
>>746703242Seppuku
>>746703160>biggest goycattle: the post
>>746680850Yeah, this. Kind of a shame, because it looked good, despite the minecraft blockies.
>>746703242This is the Beta 1.7 for the new age. Some will stay, others will update. Tons of mods will cease support. Vanillatards will rejoice, modders will move on to oversized modpacks. The game won't be the same. Once Tyrone gets rid of the baggage, he'll change the game to suit his new vision.
>>746682274lol underrated.
>>746694425Hey, you now have the opportunity to put out something more popular than the game.it came from, a tiny sweet note for the whole thing to be remembered by!
>>746687624I love how much seething this simply true comment evoked. I refuse to believe anyone but the devs are in this thread, making posts that amount to supporting companies that take your money, deceive you, and rub shit in your face when caught.
>>746702930>Implying I'm a dev for hytaleI WOULD NEED TO HAVE GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT FOR THAT, ANON, I LIVE IN CANADA, I CAN'T WORK IN CANADA BECAUSE ITS ILLEGAL FOR WHITE MEN TO HAVE A JOB IN CANADA, ANON, DON'T YOU KNOW WE CAN'T HAVE WORK BECAUSE WE GENOCIDED IMAGINARY NATIVE AMERICANS THAT TURNED OUT TO BE ROCKS?
>>746704284I can confirm this, I'm also Canadian, have 100% European heritage, and despite experience in my field and an education cannot find work.
If they don't fire that faggot then I won't play the game again.
>>746701794I don't see the problem?
>>746701969>There's a line in the sand.>I'm telling you to not go past it.>you're an ass and walk right on it>you also put your feet an inch past it>i call you out>"dude wtf? I was basically behind the line!"How about you fuck off the line and act like a decent person?
>>746702448Dude stop flicking your finger on my forehead, it's not yours
This is why modding should only be for the elite. The goys are not ready to handle this sort of power and responsibility.
>>746689005>t. Cheating fucking retards who got exposedAre Anego Systems willing to prove in court of law that their obfuscated code that causes the game to intentionally crash potentially corrupting windows and system files never ever is the result of false positives? Something no other anti-cheat on the planet would ever claim in a court of law?I mean if Anego had managed to create a flawless anti-cheat, it would make them more than any game.
How do you cheat on your own server?
i for one am glad there are no dirty fucking cheaters stealing my diamonds in my singleplayer vintage story save
>>746707679sv_cheats 1noclip
>>746707957But...it's your server?
Late to the drama, late to the thread.Do NOT keep up-to-date with Anego's Project Glint. Ex-friend on the dev team, raging communist retard. Lied about how much time they've had in the gaming space, never truly made or finished a game.
>>746681593Unironic fart huffing
>discord is full of raging troon retardsYeah I'm not surprised
>>746681593Autism, isolation, and hyper reality. They are losers in real life in every respect so they carve out little kingdoms online and become the most insufferable tyrants they possibly can because IRL they would just get shunned for being a big smelly troon that says retarded shit.
>>746704284Lmfao get a job you absolute pussy
>>746677445People like this need to be flogged.
>>746678317Torture and kill all insane powertripping discord faggots.
>>746677678>they just use it to power triptoo dumb/cowards to be cops, so this is the next best thing
>>746680850Yeah, this has killed basically any trust I had in Vintage Story in one fell swoop.
>>746708553Dumb cowards are cops thoughYou literally wont get hired if you're too intelligent
>>746708602yeah but you forget, game devs are even dumber and more cowardly than the people that become cops. especially if we're comparing them to the english policeforce who bend over backwards to protect nogs because they're too cowardly and scared of being called racist and too stupid to go "hang on, this is wrong.", game devs are that much worse than them. truly, lower than police.
>>746708194Second panel, stain on shirt
>>746684809Yeeeep. The entire dev team should be dragged out into the goddamn streets for this shit.
>>746708717No anyone who can work an IDE is definitely smarter than a fucking pig
>>746688309Go fuck yourself to death Maltiez, not a single person will be playing Vintage Story after this I they know even the tiniest bit about the situation.
>>746680497So why didn't he put a disclaimer on his mod page that clearly states it includes code to detect and quit your game when detecting other mods he dislikes? Why be a slimy rat kike about it? This is malware by definition and you defend malware because you aren't personally affected or because of your feelings towards a thing you dislike.You act like an irrational woman.
Reminds me of the gregtech/tinkers construct dispute long ago where tinkers would crash your client if it loaded with GT
>>746688746>gachanigger is retardedSomething obfuscating crash logs to prevent people from detecting it is 100% DEFINITIONALLY malware.
>>746689492This shit is going to destroy VS if they don't sack him immediately.
>>746677102I don't mod my games so I don't care.
>>746709007They'll just ban people from talking about it while pretending it didn't happen. I hope someone reported his github for containing malware.
>>7467091501 (one) video essay and its all over
>game included malware designed to intentionally crash your game (this can potentially damage your system btw) that covered it's own tracks and that customers were never informed about, nor agreed to upon purchase.Weeeeeeeeeeeew, if the devs are doing anything other than sacking the dev responsible, quickly notifying *everyone* who's ever bought the game and hiring lawyers they're doing it wrong.Putting malware in commercial software quickly puts you at the adult, shit just got real, table, something the devs clearly are not ready for.
>>746692883>>746693170The imminent assrape they're about to receive because of this the MICROSECOND some dramatuber gets on it will be glorious.
Everyone ITT using "sacked" isn't american btw
>>746709191It wasn't in the actual game, but a mod that one of the game's devs made.But yes, they should absolutely sack him, otherwise they're basically condoning his actions.
>>746701616Extreme ego and narcissism.
What are the odds of a lawsuit?
>>746709238desu I've only ever heard Australians say it. I assume Brits do too.
>>746677102Exactly how many fucking times does this have to happen across how many games before somebody finally goes to jail over it? This shit is literally illegal, it is the textbook definition of producing malware. Just because I can pull the code base and have a free AI remove the malware, doesn't make it any less illegal. Christ I hate these fucking retards so much.
>>746701969I hope you keep doing shit like this Maltiez until someone tracks you down and skullfucks you into oblivion. You deserve it after this fucking stunt.
>>746702572He's actively being defended by the other devs that's why.
AI can't come soon enough. The inability for software devs to just put the fucking fries in the bag has created an incredible demand to just take them out of the equation.
>>746709150>I hope someone reported his github for containing malware.It should be reported to Github as well as CISA for review, it's malware from a very dodgy part of the world being sold globally.
>>746709404Unlikely, but if a big youtuber comments on this, chances are high that VS just disintegrates community-wise.
>>746709404Probably zero. When you download mods you're agreeing that they (the game owners) aren't responsible for what's inside those third party mods.
>>746701616The only modders who aren't narcissistic fucks don't ever get popular because they just make whatever and they don't shill it anywhere and they don't play stupid power games on discord. I've been modding games for close to 20 years now and I'm nothing like this guy, but I also mostly make shit for myself and whatever I post is under either the most permissive license available or no license because I don't want to have the responsibility to fix it if I lose interest in it and I don't believe in the idea of owning a mod. This fucking retard needs to be fired from that Dev team and banned from posting. I get that configlib is basically the backbone for a lot of shit, but this is exactly why that feature should be something that is not a mod that is controlled by some fucking retard and instead a vanilla feature that is ideally shipped without any fucking malware in it.
>>746709667Unfortunately, that excuse doesn't work when the modder in question is explicitly part of their own dev team.
>>746709238And? It's 9am on the east coast, no shit most posters ITT are non american.
It's kinda wild the amount of trouble you can save yourself in life by not doing stupid shit like this
>>746699617But then how will they jerk their egos off? How will they force people to join their stupid communities to get basic information on how to make mods? How will they sell things that are supposed to be free using patreon? That just sounds really anti-semitic man.
>>746709238wow no way it's almost like it's 9AM EDT or something
>>746709238>Everyone ITT using "sacked" isn't american btwThis.Everyone in the US uses "onions ciudadano americano, no hablo ingles"
>>746709438Retards genuinely think malware = virus that takes over my computer and gives me pop ups or is a keylogger stealing my information. Just read the earlier posts ITT of retards trying to argue it's not malware because it merely crashes your game.
>>746709719It's still something he made personally in his own time. Like If a M$ dev made some malware would the company be held responsible if he started infecting emails?
>>746709827Narcissists literally can't understand why they shouldn't do self-destructive shit like this. Stable personality disorders tend to do that.
>>746709904I wish, it's usually more like>duh cheese duh fries more fries *slobber*and>I'd like to speak to your managerand>ju got no fifa?
>>746709667>Download program that's supposed to take notes >Program rapes your hard drive and steals your banking information >"Ah well, like, dude you agreed to this when you downloaded the program even though the program doesn't say it does this"That's not how that works.
I always suspected that dev of vintagestory combat mod was a massive nigger just from reading his chatlog in discord
>>746709950Yeah they would actually, are you dumb? They'd immediately fire him and probably sue him for good measure so they can take as much blame away from the company and onto the individual. Working in game dev (or literally anything that isn't flipping burgers and digging holes) you usually sign stuff that says things like "i will not harm the company's reputation".
>>746710009Narcissists will go to unbelievable lengths to blame others and cope instead of facing their own failures.
>>746709418>>746709809>>746709881>>746709904Hoes mad
>>746710125I truly hope he faces legal issues for this, I know it's 99% not gonna happen but still
>"Players found something fun/good/convenient?!REMOVE IT IN THE NEXT PATCH" the game
>>746710147>Hoes madYes, we're mad that eurocuck/slav/russian? devs included malware in a game sold all over the world. I've absolutely no idea what that has to do with America or why only Americans should be discussing the issue?
>>746710221I'm just fucking with you holy shit grow some thicker skin its 4chan
>>746710265>I'm just fucking with you holy shit grow some thicker skin its 4chanNo one took offense to anything you said though?
>>746709950if the company defends/doesn't punish their employee they begin to take on that responsibility, yeah. it adds a shaky level of culpability otherwise
>>746710354Zoomer detected
>>746703709Assuming this doesn't blow up on social media, and most importantly youtube, which would kill the game
>>746709238>Everyone ITT using "sacked" isn't american btw>utah isn't in AmericaFair, we're too White to be considered American at this point.
>>746677102>>746677445>>746677746>>746677856>spergy minecraft clone made in eastern europe turns out to contain malwareI can't say i'm shocked honestly.
>>746710529Hoes mad
>>746710087Considering this has happened in a dozen other games have any of those been sued? A Skylines mod had a crypto keylogger
>>746710719>Considering this has happened in a dozen other games have any of those been sued? A Skylines mod had a crypto keyloggerDid paradox hire the modder, excuse their behavior and say it was being blown out of proportion?
Asmongoy should get on this shit
>>746677102there's a reason this chink copycat shit isn't on a real store
>>746677102Oh that's terrible w->it's only for people using cheatsOh, I don't give a fuck.Cry more.
>>746689393
tick tock tyrone...
>>746677445A surprising amount of modders put in anti piracy measures like this for no reason. They do it for free.
>>746677445OH MY GOODNESS IT.. LE CRASHED THE GAME!?!?!?
>this entire thread
>>746688746that's the intend, retard, did you not see how they reacted as if it was a nothing? only for them to later admit that they knew about it but did nothing? if this needs to become harmful for them to do something, then so be it
aww man, and all this had to happen just as the youtubers and normalfags were finding out about the game... what a shame
>vintage story>wholesome chungus indie game>developers are allowed to hire an anti-social retard and then run around in circles while people are being scared away from the game>minecraft>soulless corporate dogshit>has to actually care about their brand imageBleak
Even if you want to argue that the malware isn't that harmful it's still a huge breach of trust for a very small game that is going to live or die by its dedicated player base. The only smart option is to publicly execute the guy who did it and visibly distance the company from all his toxic code.
>>746677102>stealth Hytale threadfuck off
>>746692883>>746693170>one of our staff did something extremely controversial and everyone keeps talking about it>how do we, the staff, resolve this? by telling the people calling it a big deal that it's actually not a big deal and threatening to ban peopleyeah definitely, that'll definitely quiet things down.
>>746711575hi Maltiez, if you're this upset now just wait until it spills over outside of discord and /v/.
>>746712025Thats good in a way.
So, what did the devs said this morning?
Vintage Story is boring anyway. All of the fun is front loaded in the hunter gatherer stage and anything more advanced is just a reminder that industrialization ruins the soul. Nothing beats being a grug berry picker and rabbit hunter that lives in a cave, grim.
>>746712706
>>746712706That theyre transistioning
>>746710496The game would get resurrected if someone pulled the mentally ill tranny card.If you ever find yourself in such situation:>I, a trans woman, have decided to take a break, for a prolonged stay at mental health facility.>>746712763What a prick.
>>746693454That's a bug, not malware.
>>746677445lmfao what the fuck is wrong with modders man. every single game has this type of modder
>>746711575The voice of reason>>746712632Not even up to date on whatever FoTM namefag this guy is. Causing a client crash because you're cheating and ruining the experience isn't malware you fucking tards. If this game was 20 years old the thread would be "based anticheat measures with epic troll screen?? why don't devs do this anymore?">its a Minecraft clone>litany of discord screenshotsstarting to see why this a problem now...
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>>746712989good goy, you're fitting in so nicely with the contrarian /v/ culture with le china african worker meme
>>746713092Whatever keep cheatin nigga. Still won't get you bitches or your drivers license
>all it does it crashes the game when it senses someone cheatinglol who care faggot cheaters deserve worse
>>746677102>>746677445>>746680215WELL well well Tyrone...If it isn't the consequences of you being a nigger and not putting your game on Steam, now with this Malware fiasco good luck on getting Gaben allowing your sorry ass on Steam, you're DONE BUD!!!!
>>746713206>Whatever keep cheatin nigga. Still won't get you bitches or your drivers licensewhy are you talking like a nigger? are you a wigger?
The fact that it would have been easier to make a standalone anti cheat mod that server admins would have universally praised is proof that he was doing something worse than what he claimed
>>746712989There's a pretty big difference between a powertripping modder doing it versus the actual devs.Whether the lead dev endorses him or not is a separate issue. That the modder was brought into the dev team after doesn't really change him being a faggot with his mod beforehand.On one level, fuck that guy for being petty with his mod.On an entire other level, how does a guy like that not get vibe checked when hired into the official team? Tyrone should be slapping his nuts for this.
>>746712989this but unironically
>>746695218VS Radio was another
Also if you actually decomp the code he targets ClientMain, not serverside. He fucks over your single player game if you combine mods in a way he doesn't approve of.
this is why modding is literally only for trannieswhen betheshart games crash to desktop it's not due to hostility but due to incompetence
>>746713218literally the only thing he did wrong was make it do false positives because hes dumbif it blew the heads off of cheaters he still wouldn't have committed a crime
Give me your favorite stone/wood/daub color combinations.
>The "malware" in question crashes the game when detecting certain code and doesn't do anything else you traditionally associate with the term>That still doesn't make it ok to obfuscate you mods function to sneak in code without peoples knowledge2 things can be true, fuck that guy.
>>746688441He is, actually. We elected him last week. You didn't get a vote because faggot retards are disenfranchised.
>/v/ contrarians are now taking the side of discord modding trannies that introduce malware into their distributed codesasuga, vee
>>746713471the only problem is that disclosing the code would have instantly made it worthlessor did you think riot shares how their kernel level actual spyware anticheat works?
>>74671353799% of this thread hadn't heard of VS before today
>>746708941Just quit cheating, turdie.
>>746713578this
>>746713438Andesite/birch/ashen
>The Vintage Story situation is crazy
>>746713436Are people missing the part where it wasn't just "cheats" but anything maldick disliked?
>>746712989>Causing a client crash because you're cheating and ruining the experience isn't malware you fucking tardsHow come anticheat used by big companies like battle eye and easy anticheat don't crash the game when you use cheats?
>vibecoding jeet shits things upno.............
>>746710529Ausfailians could be considered White, europeons never were and they sure as fuck aren't now after importing a billion africans and mudslimes.
>>746713764It's almost like retards are being disingenuous on purpose
>>746713793>t. paco dominguez with brown eyes, brown hair and no foreskin
>defending "anti-cheat" on a singleplayer sandbox gamedo goyim really?
>>746713790it's so over
>>746713951Nobody actually plays games like VS or Minecraft singleplayer. There's no point
>couple from Latvia makes comfy game together>decide to hire help from people outside of a white civilized country>drama unfolds oh boy
>starsector has this drama>owner of starsector permabans the nigger that did it and blacklists his shit mods>vintage story has this drama>nuffin
>>746714152>Latvians>White
>>746713764it literally wasnt but go off kween
>>746714156starsector dev let the guy do this for 2 fucking YEARS ask me how I know
>>746714242>go off kweeni really share a board with these people
>>746714314Alright, fineHow do you know
>>746714376me play starsector since 2017 is how
>>746714242Download the code and look for yourself. Look for SettingsBuilder in YamlDoNet.Serialization in the dll file. He looks for other mods and will CTD a single player game, not just multiplayer.
>>746685276So this is another Starsector thing, where autistic faggots try to police which mods you're allowed to use by hiding malicious code in their own mods that crashes or corrupts your shit if it detects chud mod files in your game?
FUCK its been 10 years
>>746713776>battle eye and easy anticheat don't crash the game when you use cheats?they do, you fucking retard
>>746714425Nice
>>746714114>Implying most people don't play these games solo or with a friend or two
>>746714482Works on my machine desu
>>746714376I've owned starsector since 2011 (when it was called starfarer), I quit playing a while back and one of the primary motivators was because the dev was such a fucking retard that he would let his modding community do the most heinous shit with no interruption. I'm pretty sure the only reason he stopped was because someone threatened him with legal action.
>>746714449quite literally, yes. it's one autistic modder faggot powertripping since he was recently hired to the main dev team. now the other devs are doing massive damage control and trying to brush this under the rug as they knew what he was doing.
>>746714449no it was targeted at a paid hacked client and accidentally affected a couple other modsnothing like the starsector situation
>>746714575wtf i love malware and disguised crash/error logs now?
>>746714575>accidentallyThis is provably false btw
>>746677102Ah so this is why they never wanted a Steam release. It all makes perfect sense now.
>>746685963Lol fuckoff devnigger
Why are catfags often such deranged assholes?
>>746715265toxoplasmosis
>>746680215>tfw you paid for the game to avoid getting a virus>dumbass dev just allows some tard to include a crash codeIs this the famous German autism at work?
>>746716057>some tardthe guy works for the studio
>misplaced anti-cheat>malwareIt's a convenient vector to cause drama, but damn zoomies are cooked frfr. Kinda weird for a dev to also maintain mods for the same game.
>>746716103As other people said, he was making a mod and then got hired
>denuvo is good, actually! this thread, for some reason
>>746716512If you don't think the tranny VS devs are ITT doing damage control right now I have a bridge to sell you, you can put a toll on it, make millions.
>>746714114Serverfags out
>>746716512Half the dev team is in this thread right now.
>>746677102>malware>it was just easy to bypass anticheat so he was sneaky about itDon't be binary anon. U might crucify a messiah one day.
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>>746713790>retarded faggot writing crash code is also an AIjeetIt just keeps getting worse
>devs trying to get thread deleted nowClassic
>>746716902I-It's beautiful...
>>746717005There's 0 chance that any dev gives a shit what happens on an anonymous child porn website, they are on reddit, the pseudo anonymous child porn website
>>746717087>
>>746716635It's funny, serverfags were getting the most raped by this mod because if enough people had it then the entire server was unplayable and that's how people found out it has crash code. It fucked a server and someone went in looking for the issue.
>>746717005>mfw it's after reaching bump limit
>>746717087Reddit reacted more negatively than anons ITT
>>746717249maybe reddit isnt that bad after all
>>746701794Not an issue if you can still trap them in a hole
>>746717274or maybe you're spiritually a redditor
>>746717249That's because being totally anonymous allows you to freely act like a retard for no reason. This thread is definitely full of retards arguing 3 or 4 sides of the issue just to b8 a meaningless discussion.
>>746677102This is peak reddit woman hysteria>guy adds anti cheat to his mod to stop it from being used for cheats or used on servers where someone is cheatingOMG OMG OMG MALWARE REDDIT TOLD ME IT'S MALWARE>IT'S THE STARSECTOR SITUATION ALL OVER AGAINStarsector mods were nuking peoples saves because they didn't like someone elses modded faction or because of porn mods. Comparing the two is retarded please get a grip you behave like women.
>>746695171>when we know this shit crashed singleplayer worlds too.it only triggered on multiplayerstill scumfucky considering it triggered on EVERY form of obfuscation
>>746717590see you in the next thread!
>>746717620>only triggered on multiplayerCategorically false, go read the code for yourself. It's already been reviewed and it's already known how it acts, none of it is accidental.
>>746716676Do they actually join /v/ threads?
>>746717305maybe i need to kms then
>>746717695>go read the code for yourself.ok>if clientApi.IsSinglePlayer == falsewoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
>>746718032Except it doesn't say that. In fact, the more you dig into it, the worse it gets. Reading 'ReloadFromConfigs()' for example, despite the name, does not reload configuration. Instead it cats the world to an internal 'Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain' and corrupts the game state. The dude absolutely fucks your single player game when possible.
>>746717445>That's because being totally anonymous allows you to freely act like a retard for no reasonMore like being totally anonymous allows the devs to come in here and post lies because no one wants to go to pisscord or leddit to figure out the truth.
>>746718194>Except it doesn't say that.nigger>Reading 'ReloadFromConfigs()' for exampleYou mean>ReloadFromConfigs(ICoreAPI api)that doesn't get assigned because>api.World.RegisterCallback(_ => { ReloadFromConfigs(api);never happens in singleplayer because of an early return?
