everything

Optimizing the fun out of it while making it run like utter ass on half the systems

Too easy, ran like shite for an entire year, godawful endgame even for a HR game

>>746680259
your 10* gogma clear?
your AT arkveld clear?

anyone who posts about "muh difficulty muh end game" without posting proof of their clears should get a year ban from posting

>>746680063
rng shit since as far as 4th gen
gimmicks in general, ledges and slopes
story focus
every moveset being shitty or soulless if not both
scope too large, with too many layers of useless shit and a bloated UI
art direction going severely downhill
and that's without mentioning the technical shit, there's so many layers of incompetence at capcom it's shocking

>>746680259
It's the only HR game with anything approaching a decent endgame.

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Was I supposed to be hyped that they brought back this piece of shit?

>>746680063
>Reality
It ran like complete dog shit on console and PC. The base HR game before TUs was so barebones and lacking in content or engaging monsters that every normalfag got bored, burned out, and dropped the game for the next FOMO.

Combine that with a united hatewagon from Oldfags, Worldsperm, and Risetards? Nobody reccomended the game and the post launch sales plummeted into nothingness.

The only people still holding on are literal Capcom shills, toxic positive casuals, and sunk cost niggers like >>746680325 and >>746680591 who have 500+ hours and think waiting 8+ months post launch for drip fed TUs should be celebrates.

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>>746680063
It just had to be mh world but better. Maybe even invent one or two new weapons to really sell it.
And they fucked it up.
Retards.

>>746680956
Normalfags are always the first to lose interest.

>>746680063
Awful performance and a fucking drag of a story, that's all it took to tank this game
Everything else is nitpick

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>>746680063
>Maps are shit and, aside from one, are visually uninteresting.
>Part of why they are shit is because they didn't really bother as much since the seikrets taxi you everywhere and you can just farcaster to any tent.
>Story is markedly worse than the previous games (even World's somehow).
>Features are missing or changed for the worse.
>New mechanics, e.g. Focus, parries/dodges/offsets, dual weapons, wounds, etc. are detrimental to the core experience and help to trivialize much of the game to the point that inflated health, exaggerated hyper aggressive combat, and reliance on MMORPG like systems are being utilized as engagement over the traditional item/gear grind, preparation, adapting to monsters, and more methodical position/timing based combat.

>>746681896
Forgot to mention that they fucked up lobbies as well.
Why the fuck can I not just join a friend's lobby, see them, talk to them with in-game vc, and queue up for hunts with them. They seem to have separated lobbies by world (over-world instances) and parties/groups, or something? I just remember trying to play with a buddy and we could either never see each other, until the hunt began, or we couldn't hear/communicate with each other. Shit was needlessly redesigned from Rise and World.

>>746680063
It was fine, my only complaint was the artian weapon endgame grind, hopefully they move one from it on the expansion.

15 minutes fights.

I've been playing World in the past week. People are still hunting Fatalis.
had a 10 mins fatalis with giga veterans and 18 mins slog with 3 plebs. super fun

also saw 4+ The Black Dragon quest at the same time in sunday. it's crazy how much people are still playing World

>Make open world
>But also don't reward exploration and have a button that automatically takes you to the monster

One of the most baffling choices I've seen recently.

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>>746680063
Too much to list. Instead of listening to the people who liked World they instead listened to the people who hated it:
Locating the monster is boring? Let's have the player always know where it is
Walking around the large maps is slow and confusing? Let the player call an uber so they don't have to explore whilst also making the monsters escape constantly to justify said uber existing
Non-existent story? Let's shove more unskippable walk n talk down the players throat despite everyone hating it in World

And yes always knowing the monsters' location was introduced by Rise and the uber was patched into World I know. Oh yeah also the game both looked like shit and ran like shit which is pretty impressive how they fucked it up so bad.

>>746684656
Esl

>>746685237
Its a chicken or egg situation for me
Did they invent the bird because the gigantic open-world maps sucked so fucking hard or did they did make the gigantic open world maps suck so fucking hard to better facilitate the bird

>>746686679
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume they added an autopilot to the birds as a late addition rather than intentionally making a shitty overworld so they could have autopilot on the birds

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I honestly don't get it.
I don't get why this game doesn't click for me at the endgame.
I've done everything except the final fantasy crossover and the event quests, and I just... Don't feel like continuing.
Same thing happened with base-game Rise. I beat High-Rank and then decided I didn't need to keep playing.
That wasn't an issue for me in World. I beat High-Rank and I kept coming back anyway despite the fact that there was no more content until the next title update. Same with 3U and 4U.
But GenU, Rise, and Wilds just didn't properly grip me and I don't understand why.
It's not the QoL or simplification of things. I loved World a great deal despite those things, and that wouldn't explain why GenU lost me so soon. I barely forced myself through HR in that game.
I just don't get it.
And it's not like I hate the game either. I still have fun. I still enjoy the process. But for some reason I just reach a point where I just go "Yep, that's enough of that." and put it down.
Why do I feel this way about GenU, Rise, and Wild, but not 3U, 4U, and World?

>>746680714
After 20 years they finally made a fun Gravios fight, maybe Lao will get the same treatment.

>>746680259
>ran like shite
>ran
>past tense
heh

>>746687578
The final fantasy crossover may be the single good fight of the game.

>>746687594
what? it's moveset isn't changed
in fact it's a downgrade from GU
and that's without mentioning wild gimmick making it even more of a piñata

i think its really fucking funny that nobody gives a shit about wilds or ascendance and these threads barely get any traction

>>746687785
yeah, you would have more posts if you made some shitty low effort "oldgen bad" or "le clunky" bait
that's how bad wilds is

>>746680063
>what went wrong
You got birthed and ended up making this shit thread

>>746687578
mileage may vary with age bracket burn out etc but I really did enjoy the final fantasy crossover fight. i also dropped out after I finished high rank and waited for the next expansion but I'm not feeling it for wilds.

>>746687578
It really depends on your personal goal for the game.
If you just set it to "at least beat each monster once" then of course you would only play the game for a short time.

For me at least I hunt the end game monsters multiple times to at least have enough materials to make their entire armor set and weapon(s).
There's also the endless grind to find the perfect artian weapon and talismans, but personally that's way too autistic for me.

>>746687594
Weird how Gravios is a completely optional fight in Wilds. 4U had like 4 key quests and urgents just for Gravios.

>>746680063
Too many bingers living in their internet hugbox.

>>746687785
Wilds is an old game. What High Rank game has enough content to last people 2 years?

>>746680063
focus and wound system are shit.
"open world" was pointless.
game made for indian children.

Should be a switch exclusive for 5months

>>746682191
This is not true in my experience. Sometimes there's some magical Capcom server desync but I played pretty regularly with people in the lobbies and we were all very visible to each other. You can also select if you want to speak to a single person, a link group or a squad.

>>746680259
>ran
lmfao

>>746686679
I think they always wanted to do a big fucking contiguous world and were emboldened by the tailraiders going over well in World and then the Palamutes in Rise to make the bird taxi. The open world and the weather system are the Zorah Magdaros of Wilds and it's really obvious they wasted so much fucking time and money on it and have been trying to unfuck it since launch.

>>746688943
It's not really open world, is it? It's just an obscenely convoluted map where you do the same shit you've been doing since Tri's free hunt in moga woods.

>>746680063
>it's supposed to look like shit at that beginning
And then it still looked like shit later in the game too.

What a stupid way of thinking.

>>746688998
some of the open areas in places like the desert are fucking massive but no, it's ultimately an iteration on what World was doing
the open world aspect for them was always trying to get the living ecosystem working

but just having the monster be on the map minding their own business as opposed to instanced monsters being hunted for specific quest purposes makes you seem like kind of a psychopath more than anything else, which is funny

they also had the pack mechanics they heavily advertised for like two whole monsters and it amounts to you firing the big dung pod and fighting them like normal

>>746687785
I'm mean, I'm killing time at work, and there weren't any other threads that caught my interest. A Monster Hunter Wilds thread really is a bottom of the barrel time waster.

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>>746680063
no loli princesses
nor loli blacksmith
nor catlolis

>>746681394
I believe his point about the normies is that even for world they stuck around FAR longer than wilds. if not, then it's my fucking point.

My real take is they are focusing too much on the result instead of whole process, everything has been streamline to you bashing with monster with cost of everything else.
There are a lot less focus environment. You can see that most Wild clip people take are pretty much 90% just long sword compilation.
In older games you will see a lot more dumbshit happen like getting assblasted by boar or mosquito, other stuff that more than just core gameplay.
TLDR, it lost the MH sauce

>>746682191
it's Server desynch. I play on PC and after loading into the hub it takes sometimes up to 2 minutes for my friends to spawn on my screen even standing completely still. it's so shit that even after it doesn't accurately display their position in hub either. it's as bad as the old PSP MP desynch where you could kill a mon on the otherside of the area you're both in, and on his screen it's directly in front of him attacking only to ragdoll midair when you hit the killing blow.

>>746680325
>Gog
Way too scripted to be fun more than once and random weapon grinds will alaways be ass and I refuse to do it. Especially when M rank is gonna make you throw all those weapons in the trash anyway.

>>746690424
ok pussy
go shit up another thread you blatant casual
you are too bad at the game to give a real complaint so you feel the need to obviously make up easily disproven bullshit

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>>746687684
>Crossover robot is the best hunt in the game by a wide margin
Genuinely shocking, especially since Behemoth and Leshen in World were just slogs. Turns out the whole mmo tanking system works just fine in MH as long as you don't attach it to a monster who's super tall, has a tiny head and has shitzone horns you're constantly bouncing off.

>>746690520
keep drinking up that crapcom semen, retard

>>746680063
The monsters are cool and fun to fight.

There are problems but every game in the series has a laundry list of stupid shit

It is not comfy. All monster hunter, even the ones you hate, has some comfiness to them. Wilds does not.

>>746690586
Also maybe don't make it so that one of the monster's main attacks is summoning little raptors. I fucking hate that Leshen fight so much it's unreal.

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>>746680063
Wilds is a game aimed at new comers first and foremost and that's the root cause of its issues. Capcom tossed aside the actual core base in an attempt to court the hyper casual audience and it failed spectacularly. Capcom does not understand the people they killed their brand for do not play games for longer than a month at a time.

>dogshit story focus for a dogshit story (the fact that someone act Capcom actually greenlit "Wyvern Milk" is a crime)
>walky talky segments in Monster Hunter where you press X to stare at a tree that hasn't properly loaded in yet
>new """"quality of life""" shit on the HUD you can't turn off like text notifications for traps and flash bombs
>every weapon can now micro-pivot devaluing positioning
>certain weapons can Perfect Guard and nullify nearly all damage with NO investment in the Guard skill
>Focus Mode completely destroys Monster Hunter combat - you can aim your attack anyway and while it's active your character ice skates towards the monster on every move
>Monster abilities are toned down heavily - i.e. little to no wind pressure, two monster hard spots in the entire game, only a small handful of attacks in the game require Guard Up (you don't need Guard Up for Rey Dau's hyper canon but you do for Gravios farts)
>Seikret auto runs everywhere even if you turn navigation off
>dogshit maps like Iceshard Cliffs and Wyveria that require riding the Seikret

You can go on. No - adding a few hard fights right at the very end of the game's life does not make up for the other 99%. Wilds is what happens when you make a game without the core fanbase in mind. It's an embarrassment of an action game and even bigger embarrassment as a Monster Hunter game. Tokuda and Ryozo should genuinely feel ashamed of it.

>>746680325
>you gotta do the extra optional stuff because you just have too!
I'm not feeling it Mr crabs I did both omega and that was more fun clocked out not doing more grinding I'll wait for master rank but even then I might not be interested.

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>d-did you do that
>did you just kill that frog
>with your freaking sword!
Words cannot describe how fucking retarded this was

>>746680063
Seikret taxis and maps and pathing designed around the taxis
Seikrets singlehandedly killed Milds

>>746680063
graphics are odd looking and washed out. map design has little player interaction compared to world and designed for autorun. focus moves make the game way to easy... im sure there are other things. i only played the game for 30 hours bc of how shit it was so i dont remember much. i remember getting mad for only getting 80 hours of gameplay from rise. crazy how far monster hunter has fallen

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videogames developed by publicly traded companies will be diluted for broader market appeal until they are unrecognizable paste

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>>746692336
>Tokuda and Ryozo should genuinely feel ashamed of it.
They're doubling down with Ascendance (as shown by the trailer) and you will still buy it like a bitch.

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World shit the bed when they trying to do the dumb raiding shit
Rise shit the bed when they introduce monster but red particle
Wild shit the bed as soon as it introduce focus

>>746690586
Tanking is sitll ass unless you're using Lance or SnS. You can do it with other weapons too, but your damage falls off a cliff. But I agree, somehow the fucking collab monster is the best monster in the game.

>>746687578
I don't either.
GenU is the ultimate forever game of the series and a massive celebration of old-gen MH. Unless you are one of those retards that cannot stop themselves from playing Valor and Adept with Neset armor for every hunt, then there should be tons for you to look forward to and do. Did you even clear a single EX Deviant?

Go woke
Go broke

>>746693325
I shit the bed when I passed out drunk that one time.

>>746693415
>somehow the fucking collab monster is the best monster in the game
Nah, I want to actually play Monster Hunter instead of gay MMO raid bosses.

>>746693792
Nobody ask, Monster Hunter Story

>>746693325
Monster but red particle was the only time I actually enjoyed the endgame in this series.

>>746693325
SB endgame is probably the best one since 4U invented them

Ryozo is a hack who'll run the series into the ground because he's a nepo baby and therefore incapable of self-relfection. MH will be a dead franchise in 5 years.

Upset the new world blood by making a world that runs even worse
Upset the boomers by making a game even more cinematic than world
Will still sell a trillion copies and make bank purely coasting off being a premium capcom IP

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its the only monster hunter game that I haven't replayed at all since finishing it

Focus mode is probably the worst thing they have ever added to MH. Wilds has a lot of other problems as well but holy fuck what a dogshit addition that will probably never go away now.

>>746680063
people asked for "World but more World" and they gave us just that

>>746695729
They didn't

>>746680063
The insane engoodening of dragon's dogma 2 NEEDS to be studied so the same can also be applied to Wilds

>>746680063
Catering to global normalfaggots

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>>746680063
Pandering to casuals and retards.
Just look at this shit. Can you even call this monster hunter anymore?

>>746694658
Sad. Compare that to witcher 3

>>746687735
>in fact it's a downgrade from GU
This is one of the reasons why it's impossible to take oldfags seriously

>>746696904
So much for people to claiming mainline monhun isn't anime bullshit and such
Still not buying the expansion

>>746696904
Looks fun unironically

Pandering to westroons

>>746696904
>Can you even call this monster hunter anymore?
Repeat after me
>it was okay when Sunbreak did it
>it was okay when Iceborne did it
>it was okay when Rise did it
>it was okay when World did it
>it was okay when Generations Ultimate did it
>it was okay when Generations did it
>it was okay when 4U did it

>>746696838
>The insane engoodening of dragon's dogma 2
are you fags still coping lmao
>look guys, they added a difficulty setting that should have been in at launch

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>lets add sekirets that automatically home like a missile at mach speed to your objective i mean monster that you're completing i mean hunting
>character still controls and moves like molasses, except for the >>746696904
special focus moves or attacks that the devs decide to allow
>zero challenge whatsoever during the campaign, most hunts take less than 4 minutes
>lets remove all damaging mods from armor so you HAVE to build actual armor mods!
>everyone just goes for the one that buffs their damage
>remove tracking, entirely, from the game. no green glow bugs or paintballs, who cares?
>only FOUR zones total, all of them have a shitty structure because the players just autoride their sekret, so the actual layout of the map doesnt matter
>zones look like shit btw, even after all the patches
>for a brand new mainline game, the only innovations are aim-assist mode, where some weapons you are incentivized to have a toggle into it due to how often you want to utilize focus attacks
>weapon and armor materials out the ass, no longer requiring target farming quests for materials since once you hunt a monster once you're basically able to make whatever weapon you want, killing any sort of progression

I could go on but honestly? Everything. I respect Rise for knowing what it wanted to be, spiderman monster hunter that you can quickly dart through and finish missions and skip through text as fast as you wanna. This game wants to be a cinematic experience while having a shit story, shit characters(Alva and the Blacksmith being hot doesn't make them good), and shit gameplay. When I was broke I saved up 70 just for this game and was so excited for it but only ended up putting around 40 hours just finishing the campaign and doing the "endgame." Definitely my biggest disappointment in gaming in years after being introduced to the series with World and then going back to play through GenU and Rise.

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>>746680063
>preorder wilds
>try the open beta
>cancel preorder

>>746680206
Ran and looks like dogshit on everything. Maxed out settings it looks ugly as fuck.

>>746680063
They removed 100% of the friction. No more gathering quests, no more slaying quests, no more grinding for rubies, no more hunts that can make you fail, no more point system for skills, you can buy potions before high rank. There are literally too many reasons to list.

>>746680325
I'd much rather be fighting Dalamadur than those shitters.

>>746698118
>They removed 100% of the friction
what do you mean? there's tons of friction when I'm forced to slow walk while listening to npcs yapping and the game prompts me to zoom in on some herd of booblebicks to advance the interactive unskippable cutscene

>>746698442
That isn't friction, that is padding. Friction means something that is a constant struggle, like not being able to buy potions in Dos and not being able to farm herbs at night for more. That is friction, walking for a single quest while listening to npcs is just tedium and only happens once each time. I want a MH game where whetstones are not able to be purchased.

>>746680063
I still had a good time but...
The endgame rng grind isn't appealing.
It only runs decently with reframework + renodx (bars out 80% of IQs)
It still needs good hardware (bars out 80% of PCs)
Shit design for Endgame monsters, aiming attacks made the game easier but the didn't design the monsters around that. Most archtempered shit lets you have one hit before you have to run after them making everything a slog.
They basically changed the playstyle of the game a bit but didn't design the encounters around it.

>>746680063
Everything. Dead series.

Nothing, you're just too broke to run it

>>746698064
For real. I swear they realised late that they couldn't make it run on anything, so just dropped the resolution on every rendered effect. There's so many layers to the jaggies that it looks like visual sandpaper.

To be honest the Fatalis fight in MHW was so fucking kino it felt like the swansong to the series, anything that came after in Rise and Wilds would never hit that same level of hype again

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>>746680063
The one thing that Wilds did right was finally give a Monster Hunter with beautiful nextgen graphics. Watching gameplay videos from the game really makes you want to go out and buy a 5090 so you can play it with the settings maxed out @ 1080p and get a blazing 30 fps with framgen. That's another win here for the Capgods.

>>746699387
You forgot to turn on your DLSS5

>>746680063
>follow the dei squad story for 10 hours before you can hunt anything interesting
>the monsters still end up being the worst

>>746696904
to be fair, how is this any different than Gen Ult

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What would you guys suggest to someone who's never played a Monster Hunter game ever? Is Worlds that bad?

>>746702474
play portable 3rd

>>746696904
this is exatly like XX and risebreak you retard
i swear 90% of you faggots haven't even played the old MHs

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>>746680063
I can't think of a single thing that went right with Wilds.

nigga thats wild

>>746702474
worldborne is the best monster hunter game in the series, but the truth is all MHs are good so just go for the one that feels more interesting to you
you need quite a few hunts before the core gamplay "clicks" btw, no matter the game you choose

>>746704015
thats because you cant think, you just parrot others opinions

>NOOO THE COMBAT CAN'T EVER EVOLVE I WANT TO DO THE SAME 3 HIT COMBO 800 TIMES PER FIGHT
Numonhun haters are very autistic people and not to be taken seriously or given any attention

>>746680325
>post launch content
The fact that they had to add that meant they knew they fucked up with the base game

>>746704320
That was the argument for nonstop hating rise, yeah.

>>746680063
no monster taming no pvp

>>746702474
Worlds is the most popular game in the series for good reason. I'd say start there, sure there are problems like the Clutch Claw being an incredibly centralizing gimmick, buts it's not the sort of thing you care about without experiencing the rest of the series.

Rise also works if you want a quicker, more arcadey game that bridges the gap between modern action games like DMC and MH.

If you want to go back to the old school titles, start with 4U. It has the most polish without removing the friction and isn't as overwhelming as GU.

>>746704320
wilds haters are a mix of those, nintentoddlers seething and a good amount of people who understandably stopped playing right after release and haven't touched the current version of wilds