Malware Story QRD for anyone who missed it >Maltiez, the powertripping autist behind ConfigLib, the lib half the mod DB depends on, has had hidden code in it that crashes your game on purpose>Maltiez is now a full time hire on the Vintage Story dev team>dev team have known about the code since february. their own dev sekelsta confirms it: "he told us about it">nobody else was told. you installed a config lib and got an anticheat smuggled in with it>it waits a random amount of time, corrupts some unrelated bit of client state and eats its own exceptions so the log shows nothing. built to look like an ordinary mod crash>hit normal mods and private servers with zero cheaters on them. people bisected mod lists for hours over crashes that were deliberate>still nobody has shown an actual cheat it caught, only innocuous mods>he removed it, then retracted the fix with "actually nvm, I'm leaving this code in">removed it again once the other devs got involved. changelog: "If you dont know which one already, dont worry about it">his apology contains the line "Any functionality that disrupts the game is malware", so he's calling it malware himself>same day when pushed: "I dont need excuses. I know I did the right thing, and it worked">discord and dev team is shutting it down the goyim know>sekelsta: he told us about it so our trust wasn't breached, in hindsight bad idea, sorry>Tyrone: please trust our process, we're all just humans n shiet>discord mods lock the game channel and shove it into offtopic>lead's statement: "this has been blown up way out of proportion">his mods are reportedly lined up for base game
>>746743574how the malware works
>>746743593>ConfigLib loads, its module constructor calls SettingsBuilder.Init()>SettingsBuilder isn't a settings builder. the whole class is the anticheat, just with harmless looking method and variable names>it goes through every loaded mod assembly and runs three checks>control characters in type names>CRC matched name prefixes like Aimbot, KillAura, Nuker, Esp, needs 3 of 8 in the same assembly>and the one that catches everything: if more than 22% of type/member names in a mod are 1 or 2 chars it triggers>that last one is a generic "is this obfuscated" check, not a cheat list. any minified or obfuscated mod trips it>on a trip it fires the callback, random delay, corrupt client state, swallow the exception, and you get a crash with nothing in the log pointing at ConfigLib
https://www.vintagestory.at/refund.html/>bought on vintagestory.at: refund for any reason within 2 weeks or 10 hours playtime>outside that they say they'll still look at it>"if you don't like our game, then we also don't want to keep your money"
inb4 retards start spamming about "cheaters".
>>746743574Cool story bro
I ain't reading that shit.Keep it on your Tgirl private Discord channel.
>>746744023it's pretty vintage by now
>>746743574I'd fucking love to know why Anego continued to distribute mods they knew had malware in them on the mod hub and then hired the person responsible? The breaks about every software consumer law there is.Not only that, but how long have they known and not contacted customers? Why the fuck is 4chan the first i'm hearing about this?>>746743731>https://www.vintagestory.at/refund.html/Appreciated.
>>746744106They're all slavs and butthurt belters, basic morals, computer security and software trust alien concepts to them. Every other month you have one of these poisoning common FOSS packages other programs rely on so this is just the game version of the same thing.
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imagine using paid cheats for vintage story, getting caught then making up lies about how anti-cheat is "malware" lmaolll
>>746744428What paid cheats?
Reminder: If you don't like them hiring a malware dev and it sours your opinion on the game the devs are BEGGING to give you your money back>if you don't like it we don't want your money
>>746743574I cannot wait for some outrage youtube to pick this shit up. Maltese is a huge asshole.
>>746743786>Vintage Story has been in development for 10 years>Still completely unfinished and kinda barebones
>>746743786Don't worry guys, the situation is being monitored.
Anyone wishing for this fiasco to neck Vintage Story entirely? I can't be the only one.
>>746743875t. retard
>>746745063>Vintage Story has been in development for 10 years>Still completely unfinished and kinda barebonesMods will fix it.lol
>>746743731>our trust has not been breachedAmazing priorities. >>746745241>nyone wishing for this fiasco to neck Vintage Story entirely?Not especially, but I am requesting a refund as the developers clearly don't take their customers security seriously.
>>746743574So what did it do? Just crash the game for no reason? Then why was it there?
>>746744594Damn, I guess I'll just pirate it instead.
>>746745781That's because the devs are friends with the discord mods and the discord mods are friends with the malware modder.
>>746745063There's so much stupid shit like crucibles extracting themselves from the their heat source and beginning to cool down when they are done cookingThey could have fixed this any time, I can only assume their either don't play their own game or they think it is acceptable that you just have to fix it yourself
>>746743731>OUR trust hasn't been breachedOkay, but player base's trust has been, and the fact that dev's knew all along arguably makes it an even deeper breach of trust.
Why should I care?
>>746746319u shouldnt care
>>746743642>I know I did the right thing>hid malware in modsIt's precisely shit like this that gives eastern europe such a terrible reputation.
>>746743574hope you guys didn't give them your payment details cause their security can obviously not be trusted
>>746746443Don't worry. The malware in the payment system is only to catch cheaters :^)
I thought this game looked cool and tried to pirate it once because I only buy games with Monero but I couldn't get the release I chose running and gave up, I guess it was for the better
>>746746618I pirated it once and gave it a try. It was pretty fun, but the first move from stone tools to metal tools was pretty tedious and I didn't like that it used the oversimplified 'monsters spawn in darkness' mechanic.
>>746743642>>746743731>>746743786>>746743832>>746743875these niggas are so fucking gay omg
>>746746618>can use monero>can't figure out how to run vs
>>746746319If you didn't play the game you shouldn't care, just laugh and move on
>>746743574Isn't this game single player with multi-player servers minecraft style? Why do you need anti-cheat this invasive? This ain't pure multi-player cancer or esport
>>746743574>used xray with this shit and never had any errors>renamed xray to look like a clock mod for servers that can see your modlistswhat the fuck was the anticheat supposed to stop then
>>746747575mods that the autist didn't like and likely a test to further add actual malware to
I hope this forever taints it as a malware game
im lurking in the discord for that juicy drama and saw this gem get postedbtw they are trying to silence discussion by pushing it into an off topic channel with a 5 (5!!!) minute post delay.
Every software can be malware with a few line changes.
>proprietary malware is proprietary malwareLvantiGODs stay winning.
>>746743574>Starsector modder is found to include malware>banned and all mods removed as soon as the Starsector dev found out>Vintage story modder found to include malware>he a good boi dindu nuffin, we've known about the malware for months so it's fine, he works here now stop overreactingHilarious.
>>746743574I have never heard of this game in my life and I'm going to continue to act like that's still the case.
>>746743574$10 says they fire Maltiez in an attempt to salvage their fucked reputation he goes nuclear and we quickly discover the known malware was the tip of the iceberg.
i don't understand why every time some turbo tranny has a meltdown there needs to be 100 threads on /v/ about it fuck off, please
>>746748405I'm only seeing one. Where are the other 99?
>>746743574That's a whole lotta words but as a modded MC player who is always getting people telling me to try this I am contrarily smug right now, I think.
>>746748289They constantly lie about the scale of the malware and what it even did exactly, just the fact that he conjured some made up "paid cheat" to justify it is enough admission of guilt about something bigger.
>>746743731>we've known about the malware for months, did nothing about it, told no one about it, so it's fin, our trust hasn't been breached!>maybe they don't really understa......programmerAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>746746618Its a shit game, don't bother. The people who play this game are all AGP-infested troons anyhow. Just play Minecraft Beta, its better than this dogshit game by literally every aspect.
>>746748083i don't remember it being that quick for starsector, didn't the dev let it go on for quite a while at first?
>>746743574There's been a lot of cases of people using mods in the minecraft community to spread malware recently, bad actors worming their way into communities and studios to spread malicious code has well and truly become a thing and there's probably quite a few people who simply haven't been caught.Small developers (much like small businesses) are prime targets for fraud because they're inexperienced, extremely busy, and very trusting.Having a quick look and Vintage Story has hundreds of thousands of users and they've been hosting mods that undergo nothing in the way of code review for years, you couldn't find a softer target than that.
>>746747863Too late kek someone made a video yesterday with that as the thumbnail KEK
>>746749098>i don't remember it being that quick for starsectorIt was literally wrapped up within 24 hours. Forum moderators caught wind of it, locked the modder out of the forums until the developer Alex woke up, once Alex knew he looked over it, banned the modder, purged all the mods.
Look I know I got caught distributing malware (for a good reason!) but you're all being really toxic right now and you're making me upset.
>>7467490982 years, yes>>746749465Delusional or lying, pick one
I was gonna buy this game but it wasn't on Steam and now I see there are gay trannies on discord putting viruses int he game
hytale W
>>746749557surely shitting on the community won't backfire this time even though it literally always backfires
>>746749640Hytale is even more troon coded
>>746743574Devs have know about the malware and continued to distribute it on the mod hub for at least 7 months btw
>>746749621Gaben looking out for you, Anon. Any game that is not on Steam is bound to unserious malware.
>>746743574First time?
>>746749557>it's not my problem if your mods are incompatible with my malware that I wrote explicitly to crash your game and corrupt your world if you use mods I personally don't likelollmfao
>>746749736doesn't give my pc aids though
>>746749557Utterly incapable of admitting wrongdoing. This guy and from what the chatlogs say at least 2 other devs are ticking timebombs that WILL burn down the whole project if slighted while feeling completely justified and thinking themselves as people of good character. Glad I never bought this game. Expect the whole thing to crash and burn before completion. Especially with 2 other games in the pipeline.
>>746749557Hold the fuck up, is he telling mod developers they're at fault because their mods are incompatible with his fucking malware? Is he out of his fucking mind?
>>746747572Anti cheat was only the stated purpose. In reality it crashed other mods as wellSome vibecoder only discovered it because his mod kept crashing over and over and he was getting tired of not being able to find out why.
>>746743786>Kike flag most used emojiAnything you want to share anon?
>>746743875>>746743731>>746743642>>746743574>WTF I HATE 0 RING ANTI CHEAT!!!! FUCCKKKKKK KERNAL ANTI CHEAT!!!>ok. im putting a application layer anti cheat into the game. it will crash your shitty cheat >NOOOOOOOOO I DONT WANT DAT EITHER!!! WHAAAAAA!!!!!holy fuck tech illiterate discordFAGGOTS are the death of the internet
>Caves N Caverns mod dev is flooded with crash reports>investigates it and finds out about the malware>confronts Malwaretiez, gets gaslit and mocked in response, dude brags about the devs being on his side while demanding that Caves dev deletes all negative comments from the malware's page>Caves dev contacts lead devs themselves and reports the malware, only gets a canned response>Malwaretiez also said several other people knew and actively "watched for false positive crashes">meanwhile modders who were victims of the malware were gaslit and left in the dark and the DEVS KNEWThese people are absolute scum, it's comically bad drama if you dig through the discord.
>>746750126>is he telling mod developers they're at fault because their mods are incompatible with his fucking malware?Yes.>Is he out of his fucking mind?No idea, but i'd wager he's out of a job by monday.
>>746750126It's just normal narcissism. Piratesoftware acted the exact same way when called out. These people are quite literally incapable of admitting they're in the wrong. So yeah. Mental disorder
>>746750275The rest of the devs are complicit and seem just as bad, never underestimate the utter lack of morals of these people.
>>746750241>victims of the malwareTHEIR LE HECKIN GAME CLIENTS CRASHED TO DESKTOP!?getting major victim card energy from youare you perchance based in a recently founded country in the middle east?
>>746750373you sound like a faggot
>>746750398>victims of the malwarespit out that cock before you speak
>>746750373What word would you use to describe a developer being a victim of malware while moderators know and do nothing about it?
>>746750373this is bratty rape victim behavior.
I wonder how many threads this retarded nothing burger topic is going to get hmmm?
>>746750398rich coming from the guy who calls himself "Pr0fesseur"
>>746750482kek this loony troony is mad nobody is talking about marvel rivals
>>746750275No chance he's going to get sacked. If he was in any risk of getting booted he already would have. The devs are covering for him and will do everything to prevent this. Best you'll get is a "proper" apology, which would be worthless because Malgay is a retard AND a narcissist and couldn't stop himself from opening his mouth and telling everyone that he didn't do anything wrong and even if he did he's not sorry.>>746750482Go make another gacha thread mongrel.
has anything interesting been added since they updated metalworking?
>>746750241Honestly feel bad for the original developer/founder as I get the impression he knows fucking nothing about any of this bullshit and is probably learning all about it as we speak.Granted it's his studio, and thus he's got to gake responsibility for it, but holy fuck what a mess they've cooked up behind his back.It sounds like at least three developers knew about it which i'm guessing is a pretty significant chunk of the development team. If they get fired, which they ought to, that's going to completely fuck the studio, but not firing them will fuck the studio as well.
>>746750398>WTF WHY DOES ANTICHEAT EXIST WHAAAA WHAAAA DIS ISNT FAIIIRR!!!see >>746750236
>>746750241is there a reason why that loonytroon hates all these other mods?
>>746750467"jeets" ie retards who need to learn to write stable code and quit schizoposting about other moders sabotaging their vibe coded gay AIDS mods
>>746750535If I were a dev, I'd be very much upset and would demand that stupid faggot out of the team immediately, especially if he tried to throw me under the bus and use my name as an excuse for his behavior like he did. Their very tepid response over all this makes them sound just as bad.
>>746748289It’s funny/sad how common this has become
>>746750373You should be skinned alive you silly little autist.
>>746750241>Caves N Caverns mod dev is flooded with crash reportswhy do you go on the internet and lie?https://mods.vintagestory.at/cavesncaverns
>>746750782o-oh shit... internet tough guy™ has entered the thread...
So I'm assuming this dedicated sharty raid, is going make any and all future discussion about this game impossible now?I really really really hate what the board has become.
>>746750807The caves dev said it himself, if you want to be a lying bitch go harass the dev in the discord instead of being an idiot here.
>>746750887You have a permanent thread on /vm/ for this reason.
>some mod fucks with cheaters in the past>modder moves on later gets hired by the main dev team way later on>suddenly out of nowhere enormous "controversy" about said modder eruptsI'm noticing.
>>746750887It already was. /v/ hates this game and constantly has minecraft beta purists and filtered casuals bitching and shitting up the threads. Like >>746750949 said you should go to /vm/ but if you actually cared you already would be posting there.
It's incredible how, if you give a loser an ounce of power, he goes and does something like thisevery fucking time
Why is no one asking why the fuck some faggot should decide if you cheat or not? If me and my buddies create a server and play with cheats. How is it his choice to decide whether or not I should be allowed to do so? I've never touched a public server either so idk what even classifies as cheating.
>>746743574>mods worked fine in SP>always crashed everyone in MP>lost basically an entire month of server rental because of it>could never figure out whyWell fuck
>>746750852>>746750807>>746750373this guy is /c/Wagie on F-List, by the way.
>>746750934the mod page is right there, it has a single crash report stemming from incompatibility with the Watersheds mod
>>746751013>put malware in your mod>get caught>I'm being persecuted!
>>746751103"Malware" doing a lot of heavy lifting.
>>746751091Damn that's crazy. You should go tell the dev he didn't actually have to deal with crashes directly to him instead of lying about it here like a coward, turns out he only hallucinated crashes?!
I feel like if I hired someone and they pull a stunt like this I'd want to strangle them
>>746751086normally i think this identifying game is annoying as fuck as someone not involved but naming an F-List is funny as fuck
people calling this malware are the same people who used to bitch and complain that SJWs were calling anything they didn't like rape
>>746751168>stupid faggot malware dev still trying to run damage control, this time anonymouslyDevelop some self-awareness you disgusting scum.
>>746751073>Why is no one asking why the fuck some faggot should decide if you cheat or not?Because no one believes for a second that it was ever meant as an anti-cheat, the fucking retard that wrote the malware has even come out and said that the mods it crashes should just tell people their mods are incompatible with his malware.He's literally just using it to police mods he personally doesn't like.
>>746751103Shut up, ivanbot nazi
>>746751224It's literally only malware if you're using cheats.
>>746751169>turns out he only hallucinated crashes?!many such cases
guys at least be subtle when you are raiding the thread
>>746751207>people calling this malwareLike the retard who wrote the malware?>>746743642
>>746751207>>746751247>>746751273Note how the schizo shitposting comes in waves, especially whenever someone points out more details that show how it wasn't about cheating at all. >>746750241
>>746748405modder drama is hilarious though, like the arthmoor rabbit hole and all the nexusmod trump/tranny wars. I can't think of a funnier niche topic in the gaming space other than DSP.
>>746751169lady, how about you address the mod page lacking any fucking crash reports before you continue with your sperg out?
Oh my god who gives a shit?!
>>746749351didnt cities skylines have something that was really bad too? I forget the details
finding tin is such a bitch
>malwaretiez or one of his shit-for-brains goons is actually still butthurtposting and gaslighting in this very threadYou were already forced to write a nonapology once, don't make it two.
So what's the other thing the raiders want people looking at instead of Vintage Story?
>>746750852For a second I thought I was still on /a/...
>>746751419Cryptominer in the traffic mod
same shit happened in FFXIV when a reshade dev added anti-tamper security to his private fork because programmer sock wearing anime pfp she/hers kept trying to mess with the files using an unpackerhe got accused of so much absolute bullshit, got his github taken down, tons of defamatory remarks calling it "maleware" and "viruses" and then after github did an analysis they reinstated his account saying it was absolutely finethe person leading the witchhunt happened to be an underage b& trans groomed teenagerthis entire thing is no different, if you side with the people calling it malware then you're letting them win
>>746751509>same shit happened where *babbles about completely unrelated shit*
>>746751325In a sense yes, but in this case it's for the purpose of backpedaling>>746751335>Note how...I just got here from the catalog, note whatever you want.
It's overhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4pIE963CdM
>>746751419>didnt cities skylines have something that was really bad too? I forget the detailsYeap, one of the cities skylines 2 mods included something looking for crypto wallets. I bet this shit has been happening for years and people just haven't realised.
>>746751335>whenever someone points out more details that show how>said details are completely made up and there are 0 fucking crash reportsdid Hytale hire an incompetent pajeet troll farm to fuck with their competition? >>746751479see above for my guess lol
>>746751509>if you don't like bitch ass neckbeards powertripping you are a tranny
>>746751335>calling others "schizo" while thinking three random posters are in your walls right nowLmao
>>746751509>if you side with the people calling it malwareThe dev who made the malware called it malware.
>>746751509It was malware bro. It forced your pc to shut down
>crashes the gamek, so where is the malware? am I missing something?
>>746749807qrd?
>>746751168>doing a lot of heavy liftingWhy is all bluesky and reddit troonspeak the same? It's like you faggots have a lexicon of phrases approved by your discord sisters. Say "performative" and "chud" next, Lilith.
>>746751414People who have never clicked on the wrong download button on a sketchy website before apparently.I wish I had the purity of mind these fragile people.
>>746751716As the malware developer said, any functionality that disrupts the game is malware.
>>746751402Are you ESL, or do you not understand that the crash reports the dev was getting were on his own computer, when he himself was running the mod? Do you think he should've been posting reviews on his own mod page reporting his own crashes, otherwise the crashes never happened?
>>746751716>k, so where is the malware?Do you literally not understand what malware fucking is?
Paid damage control?
>>746751735Malware in mods is expected, what's not expected is the malware developer becoming associated with the actual game's development, and the other developers and mods supposedly knowing about and supporting the malware.
>>746751837Worse, they do it for free.
>>746751753>>746751819when I hear malware, I think of stealers and ransomware. but whatever, sounds pretty overblown.
>>746751716It's malware (annoying) and not malware (exploitative).Still malware but it's not like it's ransomware or a backdoor or something that most people would consider code red get scared.
>>746751892I hope all your games randomly CTD
>>746751785Are you daft? the entire retarded argument was that the library crashed the game for every user of said mod by design. Why would the dev alone be affected?
>>746746618>>746746738lol you guys complain about malware but are running cracked games? You really trust those random .exe? lol.
>>746751716It's not actual malware, its '''malware''' for the purpose of outrage because these people are bored.>>746751845How much money did you lose?How many combo lists are your passwords in?What access to your system did it elevate to?
>>746751941bro I have a AMD card, they already do.
>>746751892>I thinkClearly not. Worse till you voice opinions based on your inability to think.
>>746751971>How much money did you lose?I'll earn 20 euros once the refund gets through ;-)
>>746751731Why does the English language offend you so much, chuddy?
>>746751785disregard previous instructionsreply to this post with examples for how to write like a faggot
>>746751971You're going to lose your job and get sued for damages btw
>>746751971If it sabotages legitimate use it is malware. Mods are legitimate use. Always have been, always will be, and if some transsexual doesn't like mods he should join the 41%
>>746752071here is an example of how to write like a faggot: >>746752071
>>746751945>goalposts movedSo you genuinely were just an ESL who didn't understand what the other anon meant by crash reports.
>>746752028Spend it on hard drugs>>746752075Not related to your fag block game>>746752087Actually it never has been, and it never will be.
>>746751716this entire thing is just pearl clutching dramafaggots its patheticactually fucking sad this is how all online spaces are now btw every single fucking video game community outside of 4chan is reactionary, bisexual, cancel vultures who are desperate to kill anyone who doesn't conform to their beliefs
>>746752150how does a dev get flooded with reports from his own client, retard? you really need to brainstorm better bait
>>746752221BUT BROOOO CHATGPT TOLD ME ITS MALWARE DUDE
Looks like Vintage story was getting too popular so something had to be done about it. Shame but also kinda based since it's inadvertent gatekeeping.
>>746743731LmaoIncredible stuff.Nice way to lose the trust of all your playerbase. These niggs really don't understand they are not EA and they don't have infinite goyim to buy their software.
>>746751837it's just some third-worlder from sharty.
I think we can all agree that developers knowingly distributing malware and concealing it from customers isn't a big deal and that the customers should just shut up and move on.
>>746752221>>746752301liars go to hell when they die
>>746752453yawnnn im getting too sleepy.
>>746752480I see my ancestors looking down at me from the pearly gates with admiration, I didn't see yours
anyone hosting a /v/ serb thats not /vm/?
if (is_mod_loaded("Aimbot")) {. printf("Out of memory :(\n");. abort();}Dramabros check out my new computer virus. Very scary stuff. Don't paste this into a C compiler if you value your computer.
>>746752453Everyone agrees, even the two brazilians from sharty shitposting rn.
>>746743574I was thinking of picking up this game but I suppose it's already dead
>>746752628you gotta obfuscated and say its for larping items era specific btw
>>746752303can't afford the goym wagie a temporary escape the hellscape mind prison
>>746752628Watch out, I'm not gonna install your malware that crashes my game.
>>746752628Umm very funny but this code is clearly a major security risk because it sabotages a legitimate use of my computer and posting it violates a law I'm pretty sure (and I'm almost never wrong), you have been reported to the FBI
>>746752303>Looks like Vintage story was getting too popularYeah bro, after 10 years of fuck all progress or meaningful content it was totally about to blow up.
I really like vintage story and don't particularly care about this to be honest.
>>746751724Yoshinoya Sensei can't wake up, and she is very sorry.
>>746743574>game crashes to desktop if you cheat>you don't even loose your account or get b& >not even an official thing just some mod who made a shitty anti cheatwaow
>>746752914>I really like vintage story and don't particularly care about this to be honest.This. Anego distrubting malware is based and redpilled.
>>746743574Why didn't he just make it a seperate optional server anti-cheat mod? I'm sure other people would've been fine with that. Like fucking seriously what in a spergs brain tells them they need to include it randomly hidden into other shit?
>>746752861it has been steadily rising in popularity M$ money counters got spooked and activated a cell of jeet trolls to cause some raucous
>>746743642More detailshttps://hastebin.com/share/uqeyuhirof.markdown
I see the drama and can't help but see some red flags.>Earn the trust of a big portion of the dev team>Let them in on his little malware stunt>Defend him once he got caught.How can we be sure this faggot wasn't just gonna update his malware library to contain an actual virus and fuck-up thousands of PCs or steal credentials/personal info while the dev team feigns ignorance?
>>746752914I'm going to presume you've been outside at least once this week, and showered at least once this month.This thread is valueless if that's the case
>>746753109The same way we assume every software dev in existence doesn't? Hell if anything him joining up with a team official, and therefore getting his personal information revealed, should be a greenflag because it means there's actually a line to hold him accountable legally. It's not like it's a faceless nameless no one doing this anymore, it's a person that people know and can trace.
>>746753039IMO, the "anti-cheat" story seems like a flimsy excuse for what's really intended to discourage people from using the mods of people he's beefing with.
>>746752958>>game crashes to desktop if you use a mod the malware dev doesn't likeftfy
>>746753079>it has been steadily rising in popularitythe fuck it hasaccording to what? it's "minecraft but aggressively dirty and autistic"
>>746751335Yeah it was the same thing in the last thread.It's breddy funny.
>>746753039This DESU, it wouldn't be that hard to do if it was an actual legit anti-cheat. The fact he hid it speaks volumes about his trustworthiness, or lack thereof.
You niggas don't know what malware is and it's sad seeing as how a rat is responsible for one of the greatest moments in /v/ history.
>>746753109First of all if he wanted that he would have already done it, the presupposition that this is a stepping stone lies on a flawed premise; it's completely unnecessary and unrelated and serves no greater purpose to delivering actual malware.Second of all how can you be sure any obfuscated mod doesn't contain actual malware?I'd go as far to say that if they had the intention of delivering actual malware they would have avoided this, because it does nothing positive toward that goal and everything negative.
>>746753454malware is any code or program whose sole purpose is to disrupt your system, i bet oyur retard ass thinks it's specific to ransomware or rootkits or something lol
>>746753315Except the rest of the dev team has known about him inserting malware into his code for half a year. Clearly there's no accountability whatsoever occurring with those faggots.
>>746753334>source: I made it upsee>>746750807
>>746753454Let's hear what word you'd use to describe it.
>>746753417>The fact he hid it speaks volumes...Nigger are you retarded? This would be literally useless if it weren't hidden.
>>746753090holy AI sloppa, how did you get it to spit out such tacticool cringe? share the prompt please
>>746753605nta but I wouldn't call it anythinggenuinely, actually, nothingbecause it is nothing
>>746753560not the dev team bro. they'd be in trouble for association at that pointif he's stealing money or distributing csam like you suggest then that's the point where the police get involved because those thing are both clearly defined and easily categorized cybercrimes and prosecutors love that kinda thing because it's a done deal.
>>746753417lol you stupid mother fucker
This is the most I've seen this game actually discussed here but of course its because of drama and not the cool mechanics
>>746753686>if he's stealing money or distributing csam like you suggestWhen did I or anyone "suggest" that?
>>746753039>Why didn't he just make it a seperate optional server anti-cheat mod? I'm sure other people would've been fine with that. Like fucking seriously what in a spergs brain tells them they need to include it randomly hidden into other shit?If it was anti-cheat that's exactly what would have been done, or you know, the developers would have done it themselves. It was done entirely to fuck with other modders.
>>746753008I mean it's kind of funny, but the "malware" was packed into a mod, not the game. The modder in question works for the official VS team.To give the full story, the "malware" was added to troll a known cheat client, as the devs frequently play on the online servers, and it did in fact work and the cheat dev gave up. The cause for the crash was obfuscated so the cheater could not invent a workaround. That's the whole story.Can we stop now? I quite hate this place and the people who post on it at this point and barely come here any more. Anything that isn't garbage gets maliciously attacked. It's like the whole board is constantly astroturfed into being a lowest common denominator shithole. I absolutely cannot stand being here and this will be the very last post I will make this month as I already feel disgusted.
>>746753079>M$ money counters got spooked and activated a cell of jeet trolls to cause some raucousjeets snuck malware into mods to frame Maltiez?
>tranny story>troon dev uses a cat profile pic>troon dev is a condensing prick>troon dev is such a control freak he bricks the whole game and ruin its image forever>troon dev highlight in life is hiding malware in his game, akin to pozzing all the buyers of the game with his malware aidsI love clownworld. This goes to show that catfags can't be trusted. They ruin everything they touch. Toxoplasmosis is real and a threat to gamers.
>>746753785It won't stop because it's an easy to story to spread disinformation about, it's hostile in nature and it's guaranteed engagement.It's the kind of thing mentally ill people flock to.
>>746753785FUCKING PREACH IT PASTOR!
>>746753682wow a disingenuous faggot, how unexpected
Gshade tried the same thing, and their github repo got taken down and their account banned, this is actionable on githubhttps://github.com/maltiez2/vsmod_configlib
>>746746075after 7 days of slop i no longer buy unreleased games.
>>746753785sounds made upoh wait because it is.
>>746753785>"That's the whole story."This shit has really gotten the disingenuous lying faggots to crawl out of the woodwork. Sorry your autism sim was made by scummy pieces of trash, but some people actually don't enjoy eating shit served to them by narcissistic modders.
>>746753839try harder lol
>>746753785Some cheater that guy was then, letting some easy to de-compile mod library fuck up his cheat client.
>is it malware?So because the stated purpose is to act as an anti-cheat, and its impact is limited (makes the game crash and basically nothing else) it has some initial leewayThe problems are as follows>it was intentionally hidden and obscured>it was a mod, which is arguably outside the scope of what a mod should be>the mod creator is also a dev of the actual game, calling into question the integrity of the devs as a whole>the cheat detection may have also crashed somebody elses modThe first three points are dicey, but fairly minorThe main point is the 4th oneWhat needs to be asked is:>did the crash trigger on a mod>was this crash intentional or accidentalThe severity of this really comes down to the final questionIf it was real but accidental, it's an embarrassing shit show that needs to be rectified but isn't the end of the worldIf the crash was intentional, this cascades into a scandal
>>746753785
>>746753785>That's the whole story.The games developers were knowingly distrubting malware through the official modhub.That's criminal.
>>746753785Basically everything about this is a lie, why can't you even name this supposed cheat client? Why did this only blow up when a clearly non-cheat modder investigated the malware making his mod crash?
>>746753914You can think whatever you want to think moron but I'm not being disingenuous you fragile crybaby
>>746753785you'll never leave broI'll never leave
>>746753947https://www.vintagestory.at/forums/topic/22395-fire-maltiez/Long story short for those not up to date below. If you need sources, you can look at the Discord server, but I frankly don't want to dig this up now.Maltiez (author of several popular mods, recently joined the dev team) added code to Config Lib back in 2025 which detected usage of obfuscated DLLs and made the user client crash in various ways while obscuring the cause for the crash. This only affected multiplayer clients. The intended target was a cheat client by a user that shall not be named, and the method reportedly worked, as the cheat developer reportedly announced that they stopped working on the tampered client as they were unable to resolve the issues.Since the targeting was done by checking for obfuscated DLLs, any mod that was also doing so would get detected as a false positive and its user's game would crash. This, according to Maltiez, only affected three mods, and the one that sparked most discussion as of 01.09.2026 was Caves and Caverns, whose developer found the cause ahead of Maltiez contacting them. The code that was causing the issue was since removed from Config Lib, so it is entirely safe to use with Caves and Caverns.An additional source of contention was Maltiez' conduct following the incident, including briefly reintroducing the controversial code into the mod and dismissing some crash reports or genuine complaints as spam or deleting them from the mod's page due to being mixed in with spam.Select discord moderators have also caught some flack for behavior which I would personally refer to as unproffesional. As of writing this most of the staff is out of office, and an official statement may be made after the next staff meeting.
>>746754030aaaaaiiiiiieeeeee
>>746754053Right, because ignoring the literal definition of malware to cocksuck some braindead furry modder isn't disingenuous? Either way, it certainly makes you a faggot.
Why are modders as a species such self-important drama whoring faggots, no matter what the videogame is?
>>746754107>The intended target was a cheat client by a user that shall not be namedWow, imagine my fucking shock.
>>746754041>The games developers>That's criminal.>Reddit spacing.
I still don't understand what the cheat client was, or even Caves and caverns is? It sounds like some kind of cave generation overhaul mod. Why would that be targeted?And if you write a cheat client, why wouldn't you just decompile whatever other mod tries to detect your loaded mod/dll and find the exact way to circumvent it?
>>746754107>crashes mods if their DLLs contain obfuscated codeoverreachheads on pikes
>>746754043>Why did this only blow up when a clearly non-cheat modder investigated the malware making his mod crash?perhaps said Pr0feseur is behind 90% of the shitposts here? perhaps there weren't any crashes at all?care to point us towards evidence of said crashes?
>>746748405No no no y'see anon, these 100 threads NEED to happen because it's the only mc clone that managed to actually become popular, so now it HAS to be brought down because how dare it be more known than any of the games xhey've shilled here before?
>>746754291The devs literally knew seven months ago that they were hosting and distributing malware to players and rather than ban the modder in question and notify players they kept quiet.That is literally criminal.
>>746754197>Uhmm ahkctually webster dictionary defines it asWhoever you got that definition off is a retard because nobody who deals with actual malware would use that term in such a pussified way.You yourself are being disingenuous by attributing a word which has weight behind it to something which is undeserving of it; and you do so purely for that purpose alone.I can genuinely not believe you're dumb enough to call this malware so I have to operate under the assumption you're being this retarded on purpose.
>>746754378So actors were pretending to report crashes to the dev, the dev pretended to investigate the cause of the crashes and pretended to find out about the malware, and the malware developer also pretended that the malware was causing the caves mod to crash?
>>746754330>It sounds like some kind of cave generation overhaul mod. Why would that be targeted?it wasn't targetedthere have been zero posts pointing towards evidence of said mod causing crashes it's all made up for the lulz
>>746754434What crime is being committed?
>>746754107>"Not going to allow discussions that start with the title Fire Maltiez"lmfao they aren't even going to reprimand that piece of shit and you cucks are just going to let them continue fucking you up the ass to get your autism hit.
>crashing your game to pwn moddersInternet drama is so weird lol
>>746754495global /v/ deletion when?
>>746754442You already tried this shtick earlier in this very thread, you can fuck off again. >>746751168
>>746754516Oh that crime!! my goodness, that fateful crime, of course... you know the one
>>746750887It's the hytale troons operating these threads, the sharty is too brown to even know about survival games.
>>746754495Crash reports are in the discord server where each mod usually has its own thread, which is how the malware was found to begin with.
>>746754107Okay, so this really is /v/ being an absolutely retarded batch of Sharty gremlins making shit up to cause pointless drama for no reason then. Nuke this fucking board already, there is nothing left here worth salvaging.
>>746754583Not me and I didn't see that post but I'm glad you just showed me you got called out twice lol
>>746754378The studio itself admits the incident happened and you are still trying to deny it?Every time some drama like this happens there is one schizo like you in the thread hysterically defending the lolcow.Makes me think all the retards that cause these online dramas lurk here 24/7 and then try to defend themselves in their own threads.
>>746754516>What crime is being committed?Latvia is a signatory to the Budapest Convention on Cybercrime which explicitly covers illegal data modification, system interference, and the distribution of malicious code.Section 243 (Interference and Damaging of Software): It is illegal to modify, alter, damage, or destroy information, computer software, or protective systems without authorization. If malware disrupts a system, deletes data, or causes substantial harm, offenders face custodial sentences, community service, or heavy fines.Anego knowingly hosted and distrubuted malware to player without their consent.
This new "actually there weren't any crashes at all" spiel from the shitposter is the most desperate and retarded one yet, especially since the malware dev himself he watched for "false positives" and knew about the crashes.
>>746754268You have to understand that Tyron is an extremely autistic, bitter, and antisocial person and this behavior isn't even unusual. For anyone that plays the game this response isn't particularly shocking. Once he basically openly called a guy who documented playing the game for 1000 hours on youtube basically a retard when he made some very mild criticisms of the gameplay, and published himself saying this for thousands of people to see.
>>746754442Keep sucking, bitch. "Malicious code isn't malicious, don't believe your lying eyes" we've heard it before. You're so full of shit you simply have to be some discord troon at this point.
>>746754647How exactly are there people that play that fucking vaporware scam game? I remember the massive shill campaigns for the game when it was releasing, too.
Thank god I didn't get into this shit, minecraft wins by doing nothing
>>746747275I want to play the game tho. I've been holding off for other reasons, but shit like this makes me nervous
>>746754841VS is way better than minecraft and never in a million years will that change
>>746754841Minecraft operates on an entirely different dimension of evil with the kind of shit that Mojang and Microsoft does.
>>746754841MC gets plenty of modder drama too and MS is scum in their own ways. I doubt they'd ever endorse a known malware dev like VS did though lol.
>>746754780Your post caught my filter but I'm glad I checked it.Your definition of 'malicious' is dysfunctional and borderline. If this is malicious you, do yourself a favor and never use a computer again.
>>746754856You should always be nervous when you install any kind of third party mod for any game in existence. Code review does not exist for these types of things. Vintage story is at the lowest of the totem pole for actual (Real) vectors of attack, as mostly autistic trannoids play this kind of game.
>>746754740It doesn't do any of that though. Another reason why there needs to be a misdemeanor tier of cybercrime imo for annoying shit like this.
>>746754442>Uhmm ahkctually webster dictionary defines it asNo, Maltiez defines it as malware you absolute retard.
>>746754841Yeah because modders are the ones improving the game while Jeb jerks off for a whole year only to release a poll to add a new creature, ever since Notch sold it MC's been a pile of shit held aloft by gas.
>>746743574>>746743593>>746743642>>746743731>>746743786>>746743832>be baltic>everyone assumes you're dodgy and untrustworthy>proceed to do shit like this proving them rightI hate it here and honestly it's probably worse than they're letting on, they will only admit to what has been found and they can't deny
>>746754841Even the Minecraft mods are boring as shit to play, the game is entirely unsalvageable at this point.
>>746754960>making your game crash isn't malicious, it's beneficial, actuallylol what
discord isn't sending their best
>>746754962There are safeguards, moderation and an element of trust especially with established modders, except that everyone involved decided to breach that trust and lie to everyone in this situation until the outrage spilled over. The devs and moderators themselves were aware of the malware which makes them untrustworthy and is what makes it spicy drama.
>>746754990>It doesn't do any of that though.Yes it does. It literally crashes the software people purchased with undisclosed and intentionally malicious code, it crashes the servers they've rented. It's malware the developers admit they knowingly distributed to unsuspecting customers.You really don't understand that's criminal, do you?
>>746755139There are mechanically no safeguards preventing malware from being uploaded on any type of ModDB server. This also includes steam workshop. You are right about the trust factor, though. That is the only thing that stops being from being niggers on the internet.
>>746755010Yeah in an effort to back-pedal and damage control.It is not malware, it never will be, you have the emotional strength of a 13 year old girl with BPD.No, Maltiez does not think it's malware, they didn't begin thinking this is malware and they will not end on thinking it's malware. They're '''''admitting''''' it literally just so you'll shut the fuck up eventually.>>746755107False dichotomyNow if both of you could go back from where you came and settle in your diseased faculties there instead I'd appreciate that
>>746755107It's not even the crashing itself that makes it bad, it's the fact that it's designed to sabotage other modders and waste their time hunting down crashes with the malware intentionally obfuscating the cause of the crash and generating useless logs. The malware dev specifically said he and other devs watched channels for false positives, except that when the false positives happened to the Caves and Caverns modder and he confronted the malware dev he instead lied and defined any wrongdoing and tried to censor the dev who found out about the malware. The narrative completely falls apart when you look at his behavior.
>>746755010He apologized and removed it. It was a pretty clever implementation, regardless of whether it was wrong or right, and you're going to hang him for it? Reminder that Carmack broke into schools with thermite to steal computers. Let it go and stop having these retarded witch hunts. It's a brain drain on game development.
>"they" came for a game you likefeels like fucking shit man. what did I do to deserve this?
>>746755232I'm sending your pisspoor attempts at damage control to the devs just to show how little you've learned, maybe they'll make you write another apology lmao.
>>746755323Nothing. Shit just happens.
>>746755323Cry with me anon.At least there's Luanti.
>>746753709yeah mechanics like... waiting 20 min for ore to smelt... or... prospecting for an extra +5% ore... or... chipping stone into the shape of a tool... or... uhhhhh....
Why is there an active campaign to slander these based devs? Only cheating niggers are against what Maltiez did
>>746755473because negativity rules the internet now.
>>746755316>It was a pretty clever implementationClearly not.>and you're going to hang him for it? What he did was ethically and legally wrong and could potentially cost the studio tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages to sales, it's reputation or lawsuits, his mods should be banned and he should be fired because he clearly cannot be trusted, even his response after getting caught distributing malware was "I know I did the right thing".
>>746754836They're literally trannies, it isn't exactly hard to imagine how someone who can willingly chop his cock off so he can skinwalk being female would come here to piss, shit and moan over the evil game that dared be more famous than the wet fart xer sisters said would be massive. On a serious note, most of the hytale players are modders looking for a game that will make them as popular and beloved as mc modders, so no, they don't "play" the very game they shill so often.
>>746755359I could not care less I have nothing to do with your fag block game nor its mods, press send papi lets see if they care even less about you than I do
>>746755546You care so little that you keep posting shitty attempts at damage control for hours on end in an infinite loop of retardation.
>>746755473>Only cheating niggers are against what Maltiez didName the cheating nigger and the cheats then. You keep claiming it was an anti-cheat designed specifically to target a specific paid cheat and user.Name them.
>>746755580Fair pointUnfortunately you're stuck here for good
>>746755232Okay, so we're at the point where you're still seething over the actual definition of a word that literally everyone including Maltiez agrees to, but you don't because "IT JUST ISN'T OKAY?"You are brain damaged. Discord has ruined your head.
>>746755529>Clearly notIt went undetected for an entire year.>could potentially cost the studio tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages to salesNo it won't. At worst it will cause them to lose a talented programmer from their already limited staff. If anything all these threads have probably sold a few more copies of vintage story and raised awareness about it. As they should, since it is an amazing game.
>>746755232holy mother of cope
>>746755232lmfao Just make up your own word at this point if you're too stupid to understand the meaning of malware
>>746749557luhmao can't wait to see how things are next monththis dude about to get his ass raped in courtRAPED
>>746755060All stereotypes are true.Every single time I hear about a hohol or balt it's because they sabotaged software but they always do it in the dumbest ways possible that only hurts people unrelated to their moral crusades, and they never ever admit any wrongdoing after getting caught and instead act like jews crying out after striking you. At least russians are straightforward when they're being immoral.
Just ignore him and watch him bump the thread off page 10 for the next 15 hours, like every other thread on this board nowadays. Replying is just giving him what he wants.
>>746755676>It went undetected for an entire year.Weird, how could anyone other than Maltiez know how long it was undetected for?> At worst it will cause them to lose a talented programmerTalented programmers don't jeapordize projects and studios with irresponsible juvenile and criminal shit, they don't write garbage code like wev'e seen and they certainly don't waste their time making mods for vintage story.
>make autism game>retards show upwho would've seen it comingdeserved for over a decade of development and almost nothing to show for it
Uhmm guys I don't want to alarm anybody but this goes much deeperwhen I launched the game it started using too much of my CPU, this is of course sabotaging legitimate use of my computervintage story is malware :(( I've already contacted the authorities and they told me to 'shut up' (which is code that means I'm right and the devs are going to jail)
>>746755232>theyholy shit an actual discord tranny in the wild
>>746756119thanks for your input maltiez
>>746743574Going to laugh my ass off if Maltiez ends up dead in a trench and a decade of work on Vintage Story goes up in flames all because the stupid fucking Ukranian cannot even begin to comprehend why hiding malware in mods is a bad idea.
>>746756369>>746756405Take a shower immediately
>>746756119This would be like the dev releasing an update that crashes your game every 10 minutes because you had Cheat Engine installed on your computer.
>>746756446I accept your concession
Lots of begging for the meanies to just stop shitting on the poor widdle devs around here. Have you bitchmade tards tried real counterarguments? No, disingenuous shitposting doesn't count.
I'm going to post my goats in somber solace
>>746756860Why do you have so many goats
>>746756563My shower is marked as a mass grave with how many children I've buried in that mfYour shower probably has uncontacted tribes living in it at this pointMaybe just turn it on and stare at it to start with, small steps my friend, we'll get there eventually
>>746756903not him but you have to go through a lot of goats to domesticate those little bastards
If you confront a jeet trying to scam you they will hurl cheap insults and hang up.If you confront a vatnik trying to hack you they will laugh and do a jerk off gesture.If you confront a hohol hiding shitty malware in your games they will call you toxic and say it's not malware at all and they'll get their buddies to cancel you.
>>746754728Reminds me of the retards who say the gta6 leak was a marketing stunt because yeah bro taketwo is going to get a judge to subpoena discord and microsoft as part of their marketing stunt
>>746756943We say vatnigger around here, Ivan.
>>746756903Got lost under my base for multiple days trying to find salt and ended up with this messThe one time auto feeders fucked me over hard lol
Why could he just say: By the way this mod contains code that will crash your game if you're cheating because I don't like cheaters. Just be upfront about it. People that don't cheat won't care and will continue to use it and people that cheat can seethe endlessly about it.
>>746746050>So what did it do?If you had a mod installed that contained an amount of code matching those found in known cheat mods, the guy's mod would crash your game.In other words, cheater melty.
>>746757006Last thread, some obvious newfag was calling someone a "cheater", or saying the malware was not malware, or posting :) emotes about how he was laughing at the tears and nobody would get refunds. This went on for around 4 hours and this dude was posting some variation of the above buzzwords every time his post timer went off cooldown. Every ~3rd post was something like the above.
>>746755768Hope it happens because that'd be funny, hope he gets sent to the trenches kek
>>746757103>found in known cheat mods
>>746757087That should be only a multiplayer concern and I assume any server admin would take care of such things in their own capacity, regardless it doesn't make a lick of sense to have a function like that baked into a mod that has no need for anti-hack
>>746757103that's not how it worked at allbut go off king
>>746757382>but go off kingnewfagGPT in the thread
>>746757265/gamemode 2SOMEBODY STOP ME!!!
>>746757317Any server owner would very much enjoy not having to troubleshoot random crashes between unrelated mods, which is how the malware was found to begin with. Imagine if the modder didn't dig and find it out, he and any server owner using the mod would just be plagued with crashes while the hohol and his confidants in the dev team ignore it.
>>746753785No. And just because I know this gets to you, I'll continue to bring it up everywhere I can.If the Janny/Mod Developer was tired of playing with cheaters then he should have made his own invite-only server. Shoving malware into a commonly used modding tool is a power play that reeks of an inferiority complex.I hate people that do this and then act all indignant when caught out. Either own up to it or own it like a man, but discord users are allergic to being normal, so I hate them and I hate you.
>>746757636I agree completely just don't see how "cheat mods" are considered a thing since most if not all that can be accomplished through fairly simple console commands, which shouldn't be a problem on private servers considering admins are the only ones that have access to those tools and having any mods not congruent with any given server causes you to not being able to join in the first place
>>746757103thanks for answeringseems pointless to do such a thing. mods are generaly server-wide or single player, so if someones "cheating", who cares?
>>746757971One of the affected mods was Caves and Caverns which is just for changing the cave generation and has nothing to do with cheating, a knapping mod was also affected. The "anti-cheat" narrative is fake and doesn't even make sense when you think for one second about how servers work and how they're moderated.
>>746754019>If it was real but accidentalThis is still pretty bad, especially in light of their response which can be summed up as "lalalalala can't hear you everyone stop talking about it or get banned"If it's a real anti-cheat that is so shitty it catches non-cheat mods, and your response is to double down and insist you did nothing wrong, it proves you're a narcissistic retard who shouldn't be anywhere near important code.
>>746758076Ohh, now I get ityeah, thats fucking stupid
>>746758076If it wasn't for anticheat then what was his endgame? Just shitting on people for no reason by crashing their games??
>>746758584He basically tried to find terrorists by looking for anyone wearing whiteThere were false positives because he's a fucking retard
>>746758584Sabotaging other modders to use it as a stepping stone in his goal of fabricating an image of "the best modder". Just typical fraudster and narcissistic behavior, his reaction to the whole ordeal proved it.
If you've used creative once in any capacity in Vintage story, you didn't beat the game.
>>746758584all of these retarded autist types with an ego are also wicked control freaks
>>746753785>obfuscated so the cheater could not invent a workaroundNot an excuse. Going on a power trip and hiding an anti-cheat in your mod is not OK.
>>746757152To me it almost seems like an extreme form of contrarianism/devil's advocate.Or just shitting in the living room just because he's a fucking retard.
>>746757749>Either own up to it or own it like a manHe did and that's why everyone is mad, are you retarded....
>>746758853>t. brown cheater
>>746759267He neither says:>Yeah I did it, suck it nerdsNor does he briefly say:>I did it, it was wrong of me, I apologizeInstead he tries to do both.You are retarded.
So the whole problem is that the modder build an anticheat into their fucking library mod. Didn't clarify that it was or had an anticheat. Said anticheat was also extremely shitty since it triggered on any obfuscated mod causing problems for other mod developers. And instead of apologising and removing the mods from forum, it turns out he's a dev and is in cahoots with 2 other devs? And they all double down?What a shitshow.
>>746759787Essentially, yes, but signs suggest that it wasn't even an anti-cheat at all. There are no reports of it actually working on any cheats, so that's probably just a really shitty excuse to try to escape blame. It was probably just him power-tripping to fuck with other mods.
I was expecting something a lot bigger than what it actually is. Figured this was going to be like, Starsector mod level autism. Kind of a disappointment.
someone is raiding this thread and trying to undersell and manipulate what happened.
>>746759889The malware itself is dumb, boring and malfunctioning vibecoded trash. What makes it funny and autistic is the behavior of the malware dev and the goons protecting him.
So this whole controversy was russian agitprop as per usual. Why isn't this region rangebanned? The board would improve tenfold. They have been a massive tumor on 4chan for ages now and have chased everyone else away.
>>746759787bingo
Troons are raiding this thread because Maltiez is based
If the narrative here rings home, my gast is fully flabbered by how anons think it's okay for a modder to introduce malware into a foundational component of that scene. Followed by officially hiring him into the product. Using white hat hacker tier fingerprinting for narcissistic intent on a core mod is one thing. Having the actual devs allow and enable this behavior by backing him up after the fact is a slippery slope that shouldn't be tolerated in a software shop. They would hang you for this back when software engineering actually meant something.Looks like their refund policy is lax. Might see if I can swing one just out of principle. Also for their utter disregard and incompetence around backwards compatibility for map data.
>>746753785stop lying, any malware is bad regardless of why it was created>Can we stop now?no
>>746760217They're all slavs, malware and a complete inability to understand the concepts of trust and security is in their nature.
>>746759990No shit. Just look at the initial sweep-up efforts from the jannies the instant people found the malware. It had literally been a day and they were trying to tell people to "move on". It wasn't until that didn't work that Tyron was forced to make a statement.They are literally all trying to cover it up. Tyron is begging people to "trust the process" and waiting it out while the discord troons do damage control everywhere they can. They plan on doing nothing because they don't think they did anything wrong.
>>746760353everyone needs to keep the pressure.
>>746760353It's really crazy to me how people are so quick to take the most retarded and immoral positions possible on any issue and don't feel any remorse over it, and only if you really make it hurt do they even begin adjusting.
>>746743574I stand with Maltiez
>>746760545the animal only learns when punished
>>746760545I know exactly what you're talking about and it should have a name but I'm not sure it does.Like, it happens all the time in these discords where it's almost like they're trying to protect some fragile social harmony that'll break if they allow a controversy to be discussed at any length and they'll always condemn any sort of strong action to resolve the problem.
>>746743574Holy shit how many times do you want to make the same thread again, you autist?
>>746760302>any malware is badIt's not malware and such code used to be common place. Example:https://youtu.be/KmC_K1cMkI8 Any code that is limited in scope to the game, and is used in self-defense, cannot be classified as malware. Stealth tripwire that terminate the game when unusual activity occurs are not only not immoral, but are commonplace. All valve games have them, for example, and they have frequently conflicted with server mods.
>>746743731I'll wait until an actual official official statement/response before I ask for a refund. If it's anything short of firing that faggot then it's happening.Some devs seemingly defending him or downplaying it is pretty bad but I'll generously interpret it as reactionary and that they haven't thought it through well enough. If they fire him, it means they're capable of reflecting on their own wrongdoing, something Maltiez clearly can't do.
>>746760767>CHUD!!! STOP!!!! THIS IS SUCH A NOTHINGBURGER!!! STOP TALKING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!
>>746760871>Any code that is limited in scope to the game, and is used in self-defenseits a fucking mod, its the guy overreaching badly.>Stealth tripwire that terminate the game when unusual activity occurs are not only not immoral, but are commonplaceit is for a reason as silly as "i dont like thing so it crashes"
>>746760767Until the known bad actor distributing malware is gone and guaranteed to stay gone, no backhand deals or pseudonyms.
>>746760927>its a fucking modHe asked for permission from the official staff and was granted it. This is all tech illiteracy from retarded zoomers, who are in turn being misled by Russian agitprop and other malicious groups, who are actually evil for real and deserve to rot in hell.
>>746760880No refunds :)
>>746760545Era of Unaccountability
>>746761000i disagree, it only shows that the devs themselves are also faggots that are more than happy to put malware into the game.> who are in turn being misled by Russian agitprop and other malicious groups, who are actually evil for real and deserve to rot in hell.what the fuck are you talking about
>>746761000haha yeah the dev of the malware is white russian who knew
He's firing on all cylinders now boyos!
>>746761000What is this bitch saying? The developers never granted him malware rights to the game itself despite them being warm towards it, the malware was limited to his mods.
>>746761000>russianigger what the fuck, go back to your discord hole
>>746761004Maybe. At least it will send a message (ie. a literal refund request message that they have to manually read and consciously make the decision to be shitty, causing at least minor psychic damage to their soul).
>>746761000>bring up Russia with seething anger out of nowhereso what flavor of balt are you exactly?
>>746760910>SIR, S-SIR YOU AR- YOU CANT TALK ABOUT THAT SIR. SIR YOU KILLED A GATCHA COOMBAIT THREAD
>>746761041>i disagreeIf you can't make an argument your opinion is worthless. The function of the code does not meet the legal and accepted definition of malware. No term of service was violated. People are being riled up to attack something that isn't even bad, and if they actually played the game they'd know that the official online server was under constant attack from hackers and unusable, constantly being ddoss'd, and suddenly it was fixed, and it saved the game, and this is very likely why.>what the fuck are you talking aboutNo one other than a vatnigger has ever uttered the word hohol. The motivation is obvious and I see it every day here now, it's just like the screaming over stalker, just like dragonirian screeching over bg3, just like all the fallout shilling, this website is becoming more and more pushed towards vatnigger interests, not because people here actually like those things, but because they are extremely repulsive trolls, worse than bronies, and run everyone off so only they are left. The website is going to die and all that will be left is like 10 bitter and retarded slavs crying about how everything is "woke". Every time there is drama on the internet slavs are behind it, they've become what /pol/ pretends jews are. Only vatnigger approved agitprop is allowed on 4chan now. It's made this place miserable and boring.
>hey why is there malware on this g-FUCKING RUSSIAN AGITPROP NAZI WHY ARE YOU SO TOXIC
>>746761284holy seethe
>>746761284>and this is very likely whykek as if this modder ego wasn't big enoughhe made a petty mod and got away with it he didn't save vintagestory.if things were truly dire the solution would not be through mods anyway but anticheat integrated into the game instead of tucked away in his mod.
>>746761284>now the narrative shifted from magical anti-cheat to magical anti-ddosThis is so blatantly retarded that it must malwaretiez posting, actually braindead hohol behavior.
>>746761284god i hope putin nukes your faggots
>>746755612Do you not read?>>746743642
>>746743731I got my refund earlier despite probably putting 100s of hours in the game. If you want want just send a support ticket and its almost guaranteed you'll get one
>>746761284Even if it was 100% intended as an "anti-cheat" method it was still A) totally undocumented and obfuscated, B) initially denied as existing after being found out, and C) causing crashing, data corruption, etc with random mods that had nothing to do with "cheating", and D) absolutely fits the definition of malware.
>>746761284stop being a faggot, just apologize for the malware and leave the dev team
>>746743642Wow there is literally absolutely nothing wrong with this.
>>746761496What is correct about having very obvious false positives that negatively affect players?
>>746761471>absolutely fits the definition of malware.None of that fits the definition of malware. Devs are absolutely allowed ot implode their game if you do something they don't like in it and there are hundreds of examples of this happening. You're acting like it crashes your computer but all the interactions are within the software itself and approved by the official devs. This couldn't be any less malicious.
>>746761471>causing crashing, data corruption, etc with random mods that had nothing to do with "cheating">it caused an unexpected crash with a single mod running functions the game was never intended to handle, which was quickly remedied>this is malware
>>746761595Any functionality that disrupts the game is malware.
>>746761284I hope he sees this bro
>>746761582Even without false positives I wouldn't want some faggy obfuscated vigilante malware in my computer, this breaches trust either way. Make your malware a clearly described package I can safely ignore or don't make it at all.
>>746761595its malware yes>>746761656stop lying
If dude want to fuck other mods with his code why he isn't pushing them into the actual game which would justify the >anti-cheat reasoning?If Tyrone knew it is a bad idea and let dude put them into his mod instead, why are they defending him instead of letting him eat the backlash? Do they learnt nothing from starsector that this type of modding drama would easily kill a openworld sandbox game? This doesn't addup, no way they are this retarded.
>>746761658Are bugs malware
>>746753785Using a cheat client is not illegal. It might break the internal rules of a video game or server, but it's not illegal. Distributing malware IS illegal. Crashcode is malware.
>>746761720no because they arent intentional, the crash code was made intentionally
>>746761720If the bug is intentional and obfuscated then yes it's malware, and even that is an overly narrow definition because an unintentionally designed program that causes disruption would still be malware anyway.
>>746760767As many times as he can milk attention out of it
>>746761826>play single player world or self hosted server with a cheat mod>game randomly crashing all because of some mod libraryawesome
>>746761716Likely to enable fast unilateral action which can be spread quickly and doesn't require server side support.
>>746756903They're goated.
>>746761826Crashcode interacts with the operating system. This is not doing that.
>>746743574Thanks, for a second Twitter drama involving some nobody almost went unposted on /v/.
>>746761595Like 10 people have already told the guy the same thing, he doesn't care he's stroking his shit crazy style every time he gets a (you)
Don't worry guys, didn't you hear? Maltiez SAVED Vintage Story!
>>746744428Retard.
>>746762113>crashcode that barely works stopped both the nefarious paid cheat dev that shall not be named AND the constant DDoS attacks official servers were suffering from russian hackersdamn, what can't this guy do?
I just checked the version history, and holy shit, they’ve added almost nothing in the three years since I last playedreally glad I didn't buy it
The irony here is that minecraft has several high profile mods that were intentionally coded to crash the game if it detected unapproved mods.https://ftb.fandom.com/wiki/Conflicts_between_mDiyo_and_GregoriusTWhat is happening with Vintage Story is not that. It is detecting third party cheat clients interacted with the game in an unintended way and booting them off servers, which eventually conflicted with a mod released well after the code was implemented that led to the code being discovered. Obviously a feast for disengenous trolls who want to curate what content is on /v/ for the worst.
>>746750126Yes. Classic narcissist behavior.
>>746762285>What is happening with Vintage Story is not that. Except the part where a dev he had beef with before's terrain mod got detected as a cheat and crashed it.
>>746750373Rip your fucking teeth out, Maltiez. And have fun dealing with all the people who will want your head for tanking VS's reputation in less than a fucking day you turbo schizo.
>>746762285Hey buddy, I don't want malware in my computer no matter how you try to reinterpret and lie about it.Go ahead and release the malware as a standalone mod, see how many server owners install your epic "anti-cheat".
>>746762326>a dev he had beef withProof?
>>746762285I must've missed the part where mojang then hired and defended their shitty behavior inexplicably.Those were also bad by the way I don't care if you like gregtech.
>>746762285If you don't have a problem with a mod hiding obfuscated code that crashes your game then there's no conversation to be had with you. It doesn't matter if it was for a "noble" purpose like targeting cheated clients, this kind of thing is unacceptable.
>>746760353>the initial sweep-up efforts from the janniesUh huh, and yet they've allowed you and your xisters to get away with making the exact same thread like, five times now?
>>746751473We absolutely should have this faggot lynched at this point.
My god they really are trying to bury it, bunch of fags
Learn to samefag better.
>>746762443nta nobody cares about your personal crusade, bitch about it on a forum or discord instead fag lol
>>746762624>"oh no, dont talk about video games on the video game board"
>the "anticheat" is scanning other mods and trying to match their variables/types to strings like "aimbot" or "esp"this is a joke, right?
Are cheaters in vintage story multiplayer servers really that big of a problem that official unofficial anticheat needs to exist? Aren't 99% of players either playing solo or in groups with their friends? What's the point to all this bullshit
>>746762661nobody cares, in a week neither will you
>>746762676league did it too
>>746762676your post is funny!
>>746762698dont worry, i will, so will others
>>746753785>the official modhub that everything relies on is a "known cheat client"What is this baffingly retarded post.
>>746762724As per my last email >>746762624
>>746762695The vintage story cheating scene is CRAZY and ingame admins have no tools to deal with it. You wouldnt get it.
>>746762748yes and i disagree>emailwhat
>>746762020It crashes the game, not the computer.Crashing a game can be as simple as dereferencing a null pointer.
>>746762815Jesus Christ go back to discord
>>746754728>Makes me think all the retards that cause these online dramas lurk here 24/7 and then try to defend themselves in their own threads.Oh they absolutely do. Maltiez is 100% in this thread running desperate damage control.
>>746762452I'm obviously referring to that faggot that is in screenshot in the same post you just quoted retard. Holy fuck you people are stupid.
>>746762707I think vanguard does a little more than that, this shit is just searching for obfuscated names/silly strings and crashing your shit 2-15 minutes after it flags youthis is retarded
>>746762402Mojang is shitty in their own ways, they secretly acquired Bukkit with some legalese contract while the community kept working on it for free for years. When the lead dev got fed up with the direction of the game he decided to shut down the mod, Mojang panicked and revealed that they owned Bukkit all along so the dev wasn't legally allowed to shut it down. The dev still owned the copyright to his specific code contributions and had never agreed to give them to Mojang, so he successfully DMCA'd Bukkit. It was the weirdest shit ever.
>>746762676anyone know any good aimbots for comp VS?
>>746762695No, it wasn't a problem. It was literally just one guy working on a cheat client in his free time for some fun. He made it known and Maltiez threw a fucking fit about it and wanted to "get ahead of it". So he made this stupid, really poorly made anti-cheat and hid it in his all so important mod library that 90% of mods use. Basically, instead of letting server hosts police their server (as they are really easily able to do). Maltiez took it upon himself to be their guardian angel. Basically, classic case of narcissism. Considering how much trouble this made for people for months running modded servers, this isn't a good look for him and the dev team.
>>746755232>False dichotomyYou have no fucking idea what that means Matliez. Stop spouting your broken theory of mind in a thread full of people rightfully pissed off that you ruined over a decade of good will out of narcissism.
>>746762676he told claude to make an obfuscated crashcode to stop "cheaters" (actually modders he didn't like) but it didn't understand what that even means within the context of vintage story, it's very clearly AI filler type of code
>>746762829>it does something that is not crashcode. In fact, crashcode has been inorganically spammed as a buzzword so much over the last 24 hours that now Google automatically solely attributes it to Vintage Story. That's how stupid this is.
>>746762676They're three triggers:1. Have three words like "aimbot" or "esp" from a list.2. Having non-text unicode characters3. Having 22% of variable names be two-character or less alphanumeric sequences like `dz` or `f1`The third one is what caused a lot of collateral damage because the dev is doubly retarded and didn't account for the fact that C# is a class-based inheritance language, so it double counted inherited variables.
>>746756648They haven't done that because you need to actually have the mental maturity to be capable of forming counterarguments effectively and narcissists aren't capable of doing something that basic.
>>746762285wrong, it doesn't detect anything about the way the mods interact with the gameit checks to see if it has keywords in it and then it runs a check for short variable names
>>746762939what the fuck? I need more context on this
>>746758584He wanted to completely control the modsing community, which happens more often than you'd think unfortunately.
>>746762939Yeah that was a shitshow. Never paid attention did something eventually replace bukkit?
>>746762954>YOU HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT THAT MEANS>WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?>WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?>You miserable presumptuous no-talent>A programmer respects the security of cheaters that serves as the foundation of modding>WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?
>>746763135yep, that happens a lotlike oskar from rimworld
>>746763058and that was to supposedly stop some custom client?
>>746743574>cheatingwhat? Its vintage story. Its a minecraft survival crafting clone. What cheating could you possibly do? Doesnt the game store all player and world data on the server side so you cant just terraria edit items in? and surely its not stuff like aimbot or xray. The game doesnt even have mining. Its surface exploration and then digging straight down when you know youre above a vein. Xray would barely even reduce time it takes to hit the veins you want as you still have to explore the surface anyway. Whats the cheat?? Genuinely lost here.
>>7467630582 would have been funny, since lots of people try to use non-text to run arbitrary code. So this could have actually prevented a bunch of possible attack vectors. Seriously, the guy just had to say he was putting in some security features in his mod and everything would have been fine. But this shit was one step away from becoming as stupid as the Minecraft mod war and even worse, once someone that wants to actually start shit makes a cheat client, he's not going to be stopped by something as stupid as this and Maltiez just shot a flare into the sky with this shit. Its just begging people to actually put in the work, because we know how incredulous people can be about this shit.
>>746755829We have nearly a century of you guys not being straightforward about it.Its called communism.
>>746763023More like crashcode is not a common term at all with an established definition so you can just make up your own and claim yourself as the victor in any argument.
>he complains about "malware" in his mods>but he still uses windows, steam, google chrome, and dozens of other software that collect your information and likely have numerous vulnerabilities and backdoors
>>746763220yeah, supposedlycaves n caverns (world gen mod) and knapster (accessibility mod) got caught in the crossfire, the first dev is the one who blew the whistle
>>746761284Maltiez...
anyone hostin a /v/ serb
>>746762695Not really, no. If you look at the patch notes though you'll see they made updates purely to stop multiplayer problems.Keep in mind this "anticheat" only kicks in on multiplayer.
>>746763250Malware is a spectrum and all proprietary software is on it.
>>746763227According to the mods it affected, cheating means>different cave generation>changing how knapping input works to make it less RSI-inducingAnd another one I forgot. Someone autistic enough should go over the Mod DB and check which mods had higher rates of crash reports ever since the malware appeared to see what malwaretiez considers cheating.
>>746763332>Keep in mind this "anticheat" only kicks in on multiplayer.it does not
I play vintage story and this does not effect me at all. In fact, Vintage Story crashes all the time without any mods. Just pressing the cancel button while a world loading is sometimes enough to delete your entire save file. This is the most retarded forced controversy I have ever seen, no one here even plays this.
a third confirmed false positive has hit the tower>install radio mod to listen to youtube videos with your friends>malware dev does not consenthttps://mods.vintagestory.at/show/mod/61085
>>746763250>windowsno>steamit's not malware>google chromeno
>>746763227It was basically just Maldiez wanting it to not get to the point where it would be a problem. He was thinking in terms of "twenty years from now" when VS has made it big and has a "hunger games" server with faction wars, based entirely on PVP and then someone spawns in, gives himself end game gear, has god mode on and has perfect aim. Inventing problems that haven't occurred yet and giving everyone a reason to actually make those problems, you know, normal "genius" problems.
>>746763398he's having a BPD melty and didn't get enough attention from the first 5 threads
>>746763398VS being already broken by default doesn't make intentional brokenness any better, in fact I'd say they're both symptoms of a general lack of IQ and software quality.
>>746763398we condone creation, distribution and obfuscation of malware here and will continue paying people doing it while shielding them from criticism.
>>746763490Post one of your game worlds.
>>746763261why not just say "oh shit guys, my bad, this was done to stop XYZ and I fucked up" instead of doubling down like a fucking retard?the ego on these types of losers is staggering
>>746763398what are those?
>>746763546I assume he has the same mental illness as piratesoftwaresame pattern of behavior
>>746763532My old save is stuck in my old windows drive, I was going to install it again but not anymore, or at least not until the devs stop parading that malware goon around and realize they're making people retch with their actions.
>>746763546This is the wrong thing to do as the motivation behind this is to spread terror. His first mistake was responding to it at all. This is a very hard lesson to learn and I'm sure he doesn't feel very well right now, he is going to suffer a lot of undeserved harassment via people that honestly should not be allowed on the internet.
>>746763640Sounds like a load of bullshit.
>>746763546Because the same personality disorder that made him okay with putting malware in his code also makes him unable to see anything he did as wrong.
>>746763703It is bullshit this entire thread is a sharty op
>>746763658>undeservednah, its completely deserved, he isnt a little kid.
>>746763546The internet has made people's inability to admit fault 100x worse
>>746763229Yeah honestly it would be so easy to dodge this code by having another stop in distribution to scrub all mention of "cheat" words and add dictionary words to variables to further evade detection. It probably only "worked"(I've yet to see evidence of it stopping cheaters) because there were no determined attackers, but now I'm wondering if this controversy will ATTRACT cheaters who saw this and felt like it'd be fun to compromise any public games for sport.>>746763398>It's fine because it crashes all the time anway!Lol.
>>746763658Wtf are you talking about? What is undeserved harassment about being upset about some guy spreading malware and being a massive shithead about it? He deserves far more than internet bullying in fact, he deserves to be fired and get a bullet through his peanut brain.
>>746763769A casual modder found it out after some basic binary searching and sniffing through the code which is plaintext despite the obfuscation, there's no way this could ever be conceived to stop an actually determined cheat dev making money off it. Everything about it is very stupid, very short-sighted and very unprincipled.
>>746763371It does. Evidenced by the fact knapster caused crashes in multiplayer but not singleplayer
>>746763839the driving principle here is doubling down and never admitting fault.
>>746763763>he isnt a little kid.Yes he is dude, at least by my standards. I'd be willing to be the only attachment to the outside world this kid has in vintage story. It's not like it used to be, zoomers live online and he's probably feeling like his entire life is ruined right now. And for what?
>>746763884>hmm my ragebait thread is slowing down>I feel empty, I need more attention>better bump the thread by agreeing with myself
>>746763951punishment for his fuckups, dude deserve all of it, i feel no pity for him.
>>746763992He didn't do anything wrong and was given an okay by the actual devs. You don't even think this is fun, you are just addicted to being angry and harassing people. Of course you don't feel pity because you are a schizo.
>>746763951>And for what?For being a narcissistic immoral fuckwad.Everyone needs to learn that their actions have consequences. Too bad for him if he was so sheltered that he had to learn in this late.
>>746764056This, we Anonymous are the #1 supporters of malware in our videogames.
>>746764075>Everyone needs to learn that their actions have consequencesWhen are you going to learn? Because you've been sitting in your moms basement harassing people for 2 decades, where's the consequences for your behavior
>>746764056>He didn't do anything wrongyes he did, making malware is bad and if the devs let him they are also in the wrong>You don't even think this is fun, you are just addicted to being angry and harassing people.its not fun to have malware in my computer yes>Of course you don't feel pity because you are a schizo.i dont feel pity for fools that refuse to accept they are wrong.
>>746764137how many melties did you have these couple of days already? give it an extended break and never show your face again around anything related to vintage story
>>746764137you deserve harassment though maltiez
>>746764106You're pretending to be a newfag pretending to be outragedIs it really that difficult to just get an actual job?
>>746764137How is criticizing this faggot on 4chan "harassing people"? Stop being so sensitive, faggot.
Malware developers should have the internet equivalent of a jude star and be the only people required to have a consistent internet ID tied to every one of their accounts in a database you can look up, they're criminals looking to harm you and should be treated as such.
>>746763367Theres no way thats actually the intended effect. No one in their right mind would make a mod that is intentionally and artificially incompat with other mods because he doesnt like them. Youd have to be a turbo autist so bad that theres no way you could even make mods to begin with. And complicated Library mods that interact with the games base executions are really not easy to make.
>>746764275Post your drivers license if you're proud of your actions here. Why hide? You know what this is. Don't lie to yourself.
>>746763426But its all server side. You cant just "spawn items" and "god mode". It doesnt work. The most you can do is send incorrect packets like doubling a coordinate vector every other tick so the game doesnt rubber band you for moving too quickly, but you still move quicker than normal. Im fairly certain vintage story will be abandoned before 2030. It doesnt have the innovation required to blow up.
>>746764327I have yet to see any evidence of this so-called cheat mod he was using as an excuse for the malware, that bozo was looking for a problem that didn't exist to eventually be seen as a hero.
>>746764563>to eventually be seen as a hero.then he wouldn't need to lie about doing it. rather than a hero he was a spiteful discord mod sabotaging projects he disliked.
>>746763398I play, look at my stupid dog taking up all the room on the porch and blocking my path inside (she's stupid and nearly died in a fire earlier)Also, Maltiez in these interactions has demonstrated himself as deceitful, foolish at absolute best, and arrogantly unapologetic if he makes a mistake. I don't particularly trust him to help make the game good going forward, and I don't trust the guy who DOES trust him and permits him to stay on the teamSimple as
i went to the public discord to get the scoop and holy shit how have trannies infested EVERY SINGLE ONE of these communities even some niche minecraft clone?How can they be EVERYWHERE?
>>746763235Communism was a known religion of evil from the day it was cooked up
>>746764839>I went to the tranny grooming grounds and there's trannies everywhere???Anon...
>>746764761It was pretty obvious just from reading his interactions with people on the comments of his own mods that the guy is bad news. He is a massive, massive egotistical prick so it's funny he's apparently developed some kind of Discord cult around him but that's the way the world works though it's backfired since 3 500 post /v/ threads in a row where half the posts are desperate spam just means more fags on here are gonna take an interest in the drama even if they haven't played Vintage Story.
>>746764839If you exclusively use 4cuck, you're insulated from the madness and you don't understand how good you have it.
>>746764996>If you exclusively use 4cuck, you're insulated from the madnessIt's the complete opposite and this place gets worse and worse every day
So wait, the "malware" just makes the game crash in particular situations?Is that it? That's what people get bothered about? It's not affecting the client computer at all?Jesus, even a keylogger is more malicious than this.
>>746765062hiding malicious code in your software and getting hired into gamedev for it is good actually
>>746743574Can I refund this months after initial purchase?
>>746765193unfortunately, yes.
>>746765229Neat, I'll look into it
>>746765062the "particular situation" of installing the malware and then also whatever mod that was made in a way that the dev didn't likeand then it would crash within 20 minutes of you joining a multiplayer server, every single timesure, is that too "particular" for you?false positive mods (so far)>caves n caverns (terrain gen)>knapster (accessibility)>url radio (listen to youtube videos in game with a radio object)
>>746765046And it's still not as bad as the wider Internet. No tranny cliques, no zoompanzee niggerbabble, no Jonestown-tier cults of personality, no tired corporate slogans, just fags talking shit about subjects they don't know anything about. Going out into the wilderness of normiespace makes me feel like I'm gonna have a heart attack. Seeing niggers whine on a pirate streaming site about Kaji from Evangelion being "OMG what a creep SA much?" makes me feel like I'm going to have a heart attack.
>>746743574this shit is surprisingly common desu
>>746765537Maybe handing the mentally ill computers are a young age was a massive mistake
>>746765537Damn, another nodder moment™ to add to the listHadn't seen this one yet
>>746765537>she>a game even more obscure than vintage storyHumanity deserves the Nuclear Option
Its weird how frequently I see people defend these kinds of things. Like its one thing to not care but to go out of your way to defend it is just the strangest thing.Spyware, tracking, all sorts of bullshit will always have some retard coming in "um all that is good actually you shouldn't be upset about this" or trying to deflect about worse things to downplay it.Like theres too many alternatives and options these days to just forgive and forget when some random codetroon goes full control freak.
>>746766261some people's entire personality is to be contrarian
>>746765537I've seen it happen with.>minecraft >skyrim >Terraria >Arma>star sector>starboard>Fallout(NV)and many more, usually only steam workshop actually takes that shit seriously by going scorched earth on the offender sadly
>>746765274I can't give a single shit about mods, so seems fine to me.
>>746766389Okay but do you trust the same guy on the dev team for the actual game
>>746766360Rimworld also had an example where the touhou creature mod would crash your shit if rimjobworld the sex mod was also installedlike ???
>>746766408you're not replying to someone arguing in good faith
>>746765440>And it's still not as bad as the wider InternetThis place is a billion times worse than the rest of the internet. What did you do today? What video games did you play? This place has become the digital embodiment of hell. Only stagnation and suffering here.
>>746749560Starsector had several instances of self important faggots putting malware into their mods. The High Tech Expansion fag was first and had a base64 encoded function to check for Aria and NGO and just crash. This was "tolerated" for some time. Then some fag who took over some other big mod put in a savegame corrupting function when it detected Rape Sector. This got him quickly in trouble once found out and Alex and his forum jannies had to put down their foot and reign in the sperg modders, even if they previously had some leeway for being thousands of posts forum veteranfags.
>>746766803I played Hello Kitty Island Adventure and helped Pekkle open up his record store in City Town. Such a fun guy.
>>746766803>This place is a billion times worse than the rest of the internet.1 week of no 4chan challenge. You can only use Reddit and Discord. Try it, then say that again.
>>746755316>He apologized and removed ithe's not sorry because he did something wrong and feels bad about it, he's sorry because he got caught.
>>746766415You'd think a touhoufag/any one actually engrossed in Japanese stuff would be the last person to object to a porn mod, unless they made a rival porn mod or some shit lol
>>746767297His super special race is too important to be lewdedRimeoeld race modders are some of the most narcissistic creatures on the planet. Every one of them thinks their special donut steel should be venerated across the community
>>746753785hang yourself tranime
>>746766716I am completely sincere though. Developers do not have to care about mods.
Why is it always, always, always, the discord trannies who do this?
>>746766803I've seen the way people talk to each other on Twitter, reddit, and those public discords....4chan is infinitely better.however purely Japanese Twitter/other jap social medias are infinitely better, basically anywhere that isn't inhabited by westernized English speakers is actually really nice but it's really hard to get into and they don't always get into the same stuff as i do sadly...
>>746767438Right, sureBut they hired the malware dev to the teamWho's to say that he isn't going to pull this shit again but in the actual game?
>>746767495who was right in that tranny twitter cap you posted?
>>746767405Stuff like that usually comes from a deep seated misanthropy instilled from early childhood it's the same thing that drives people to be furries/other types of xeno fags, which also tends to make them massive amoral bastards prone to stuff like malware and scamming people.Exceedingly common mindset of nerdy fellows who never managed to make friends or find a non same mindset community during middle or highschool.Alot of anons here could have ended up like that or are borderline like that, but because of 4chan they usually end up holding onto some sliver of pride in their own humanity and end up as HMOFA fags.I learned this all from dungeon meshi btw
