1. Relatively low budget and outsourced to a third party to make a lazy 1:1 remake (even though an N64-era game would need a total overhaul to avoid feeling dated or overly "game-y" since modern graphics leave far less to the imagination than retro graphics)2. Paid journo articles and reviews will read "Does classic 3D Zelda still impress in 2026? Not entirely"Nintendo no longer wants to make classic 3D Zeldas, they just want to make open world games with copypaste test rooms. Botching the ultimate classic is a good way to blame the old formula and turn the page permanentlyJust letting you know. Absolute inside job, starting with 0 hype and no money spent on marketing.
leake malon
Nah, it's being made by monolithsoft and is gonna be ludokino
Probably not an inside job but they definitely know its shit, they would have shown it otherwise
>>746853386Why are Snoys so afraid of this game?
>>746853386i mean the teaser already looks cheap>plastic lego hair that ignores gravity>ugly overdesigned deku tree>winne the pooh narrator
>>746853689If you buy this game without confirmation that it's 100% in-house you aren't a Nintendo fan, just a fanatic and cattle. A Nintendo fan wants his Nintedo games made by Nintendo
>>746853689Tendies aren't even interested in it, all the threads about it die unless they're turned into console war shitposting because of 40 year old PS1 and Saturn fanboys
>>746853809My favorite Nintendo games are never actually made by Nintendo.
>>746853386>(even though an N64-era game would need a total overhaul to avoid feeling dated or overly "game-y" since modern graphics leave far less to the imagination than retro graphics)That's very true. They can't just take OoT and slap new graphics on it. The worlds needs to be way bigger and filled with way more stuff as kid me imagined it.
>>746853386>Classic zelda>they actually refer to classic 3d zeldaI sleep, call me when we get an actual CLASSIC ZELDS
>>746854057>Good Feel baby gamesThen you aren't as much of a Nintendo fan as you let on, as I already said. Just a coping fanboy who needs to consume his next slop
>>746854115echoes of wisdomit's mid
>>746854102Would be nice to have BotW scope but with an actual medieval fantasy theme and vibe instead of the random anime sci-fi robot shit BotW went for.
It's frustrating that I have like a billion ideas to make a OoT remake not only work but actual kino but they probably won't do any of it.
>>746854194My favorite Nintendo series are Kirby, Xenoblade, and Splatoon. Only one of those is actually internally developed by Nintendo. Also Monolith does all the technical work on anything Nintendo EPD makes anyway.
MAYBE I should wait for reviews, although I think I could end up getting gaslit by the Nintendo bonus.
>>746854397Literally all of those are first or second party or at least overseen by some of Nintendo's best and most loyal talents
>>746854450>Nintendo bonusWas never a thing. You are thinking of Sega where mediocre games with no content got perfect scores thrown at them
>>746854503>Second partySo not internal at Nintendo. HAL and Monolith are their own companies. Sakurai is freelance, and Monolith seems to have just kept its own internal structure to make whatever they want without much interference.
>>746854570But I like Sonic Adventure 2.
>>746854570
>>746853386Remember when Snoys tried to doompost Bananza as Nintendo despising and wanting to erase Retro's Donkey Kong?Remember when it turned out to be the biggest love letter to Retro's Donkey Kong games?I remember.
>>746854397>>746854603Nintendo owns Monolithsoft. They are 1st party.
>>746854739Okay but they're not Nintendo. They're Monolithsoft.
>>746854631
>>746854603Monolith is 100% Nintendo and HAL and Sakurai are as Nintendo as it gets without being first party (same with Intelligent Systems) and you'd have to play dumb to pretend that's the same as some random dog shit company like the one that made the last Mario and Luigi RPG or those noname studios that made all the recent Zelda remasters>>746854773And Retro Studios is Retro Studios, still 100% Nintendo
>>746854614same, until the second level
>>746854450>MAYBE I should wait for reviews
>>746854631This game got some interesting vibes but almost 90% is insane.
so what are the most common realistic hopes and fears?
Still preordering.
>>746855203Part of it might be that Sega had like 20 different magazines. Obviously Nintendo had a bunch of magazines as well but, interestingly, those loved to give horrible ratings to Nintendo exclusives for some reason (a 4/10 for the goated Bomberman 64 for example)
>>746855391>hopes Made by NintendoClassic structure but much bigger, way more enemies, hard difficulty and not a 1:1 remake>fearsNot made by NintendoSemi 1:1Woke shit like giantess Gerudos from BotW (likely), brown Hylians everywhere and gay characters or more crossdressing (unlikely)
If you want to make a worthy remake you need to understand what influenced the original team. If it's made by newfags Nintendo has to lock them in a room with Tolkien books and Conan movies for weeks.
>>746855391It needs to bring something actually new to the table. Still no playable Sheik would be wasted potential
>>746853386>Relatively low budget and outsourced to a third party to make a lazy 1:1 remake If that were the case they would have just ported the 3DS version and called it Ocarina of Time 3D HD and call it a day.
>>746853386>to avoid feeling dated or overly "game-y"That’s a fear I have. For example, opening Darunia’s door with the ocarina works great in a blocky, arcade-looking game, but today it could feel a bit weird and contrived. They’ll need to really sell that the ocarina songs work by magic—maybe like a Harry Potter spell that simply does whatever you need. Or also rooms where you have to clear all enemies: they probably want to make it feel like there’s actual magic at work.
>>746856241wouldn't generate the same hype, expectations and $$$
>>746853386We STILL don’t know anything.
>>746854048There's nothing even to talk about. Nintendo have shared no details.
>>746853386>Nintendo no longer wants to make classic 3D Zeldas, they just want to make open world games with copypaste test roomsBut then why did they make people hate open worlds with Mario Kart World
>>746856603they could make the open world in mario kart world the most fun thing ever with a few clicks.......add hide and seek mode. fans literally patched it into mk wii and it's fun
>>746855391>fearsit looking like hire this man slop.
Which parts will get casualized and how?
>>746853386We are living in the times of a shifting overton window. They want GTA VI to flop so the gaming stock market crashes, and they want to spoil people's childhood memories with a Jeeted slop version of Ocarina of Time to make adults become apathetic to the bedrock of video games, as it all crashes and burns, and we all switch over to Central Bank Digital Currency and Mass Surveillance society, where you can only play or use computer screens for as often or as long as your Digital ID has saved up on your social credit.
>>746853386>1. Relatively low budget and outsourced to a third party to make a lazy 1:1 remakesadly possible>2. Paid journo articles and reviews will read "Does classic 3D Zelda still impress in 2026? Not entirely"that's where it falls apart. They are gonna GLAZE the shit out of this game, all "revitalizes a classic" "honors the legacy" "the legend returns". "Journos" are all old nostalgiafags.
>>746853386why does it look ai generated?
I just wish they'd actually do something cool for once, like actively referencing the other games e.g. Ganondorf talking about visions of the Wind Waker future or stuff from Skyward Sword or finally drawing from the fucking manga. They don't even have to think about how to flesh out the story, literally just add the manga stuff like how Impa trains Zelda to become a Sheikah, infiltrating Ganondorf etc.
>>746857380>"Journos" are all old nostalgiafags.They're all gay progressives actually, probably can't wait to shit on OoT
>>746857546bc it has zero sovl. It does not adhere to the original concept art or in-game artstyle. It's generic-looking "realistic" shit that is literally "HIRE THIS MAN" tier.
>>746857235Everything the 3DS remaster already casualized/streamlined for one.
>>746853386Not even I'm enough of a doomer to think Nintendo is just making a 1:1 graphics update. For reference my last nintendo consoles were DS (fat) and wii. Nintendo lost me with their games after that era.
>>746857663I still can’t believe they made TotK Ganondorf a completely new character who doesn’t know shit, when what makes Ganondorf so special is that he’s always the same dude--even when the games are set thousands of years apart.
these solo threads are why they call you a schizo all day long, schizo
>>746857983totk writers were shitting and pissing on the timeline......while still insisting that it's part of it
>>746857937>Nintendo lost me with their games after that era.Wii was secretly peak Nintendo
>>746857735nah you'll see, it's gonna be a complete masturbation about how it "brings the classic to a new generation", and the younger fags will be all about "now I understand". Plus you just know the remake will pander to faggotry
if it's made by a western studio i'm not even touching it
>>746853729>winne the pooh narratorWatch the Japanese trailer, much better
>>746858293what would be the alt title? We got "Saar Fox" (perfect) already
>>746857735>lack of black and brown Hylians in past Zelda’s has been a complaint since 2000sFucking hell it’s fascinating how much they revise history. That shit didn’t start until 2010s with progressivism infecting colleges. And as the third world got internet access.
>>746853386>a lazy 1:1The problem with remakes is NEVER that they're too faithful and respectful you stupid "1:1" nigger faggot. It's that they're NOT FAITHFUL hence links retarded new tunic that looks like fucking shit.I'll make your face "1:1" with your Mom by stabbing it until it's just a massive hole.
>>746857735this is the demographic you're talking about, sub 30 and queer:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10hnFH9-5-gcompletely losing their shit over it
>>746858593When people talk about 1:1 they’re referring to gameplay and map designs. Basically just putting a shiny coat of graphics over the N64 skeleton. You’re looking too deep into it. Like how Star Fox is a 1:1 recreation in gameplay. They just added fancy cutscenes and graphics.
Malon and Anju with Monolith sized breasts.
>>746853386Can you see Saria's feet too? What about Fado's? Asking the important questions.
>>746858694>newest comment>Esta tia no está bien de la cabeza >This woman isn't right in the head.lmao
>>746857235Water Temple will get gutted, no more having to memorize the layout, most definitely making the entrance to the basement way more obviousOverworld will get more obvious quest markers and pointers, Jabu Jabu gets a big fish symbol on the ground or someone will straight up tell you to give him a fishNavi will be more like Issun in Okami and spoil pretty much every puzzle
>>746858726something about this area was always kino
>>746858726>Like how Star Fox is a 1:1 recreation in gameplay. They just added fancy cutscenes and graphics.and yet they managed to make it actually worse in the process>busy graphics make the action less legible>weak points also barely visible>no more hit feedback (64 had a dark red blinking and a sound effect that played, indicating what you shot is indeed vulnerable and you're doing damage)>changed the script for the worse>worse voice acting for the most part (might be due to direction)>Katt redesign completely incongruous with the cute jingle they kept>changed the music in the final escape, so that idiots get that there is emotion at play, which players of the orignal already understood when they were 12it's fucking dire, man
>>746853460>it's being made by monolithsoftMonolith is busy making another Xenoblade rehash, one looking worse and more generic than the last one
>>746859265>>no more hit feedback (64 had a dark red blinking and a sound effect that played, indicating what you shot is indeed vulnerable and you're doing damage)Not to meniton it's just satisfying. They really haven't patched that yet?
>>746859338>They really haven't patched that yet?not to my knowledge. And honestly I doubt they will
>>746859265Okay, and? It doesn’t change what I said about what is considered 1:1 by the majority.
>>746853386This is a new level of schizo posting I never knew was possible.
>>746853386IT'S CONFIRMED>IT'S CONFIRMEDIT'S CONFIRMED>IT'S CONFIRMEDIT'S CONFIRMED>IT'S CONFIRMEDFuck man. There goes all my goddamn hope.
>>746853809and Capcom and Grezzo and Mercury Steam and Retro and
>>746859434I was not disagreeing with you, I was elaborating on it, making the point that they can even fuck that up.
>>746853386Directs confirmed btw
>>746857983>Ganondorf is always the same dude even when the games are set thousands of years apartthat's never been true, wtf are you smokingeach game he has been in has an origin story for that Ganondorf
>>746859110Audiovisuals, great balance between organic and structured with perfect gameplay flow, nice water, magical waterfall, 1-2 huge shortcuts, a bunch of optional stuff, comfy useful NPC, challenging minigame, alternative ways to go about things.10/10 level design 101 for max value per area. Also one of the few spots the remaster actually did justice to.
>>746859575WTF? No weapon durability and open world? DROPPED!
>>746859819OoT/WW/TP Ganondorf are 100% the same. Not sure how you missed that when WW literally talks about OoT Link not showing up to stop Ganondorf.
>>746859575>Just a ugly port with voice acting and worst musicHonestly could have been worst, I'd rather that than they try to add onto oot. I can just save my money and laugh at those who bought it
>>746859983>>746860091it was already confirmed fake
>>746859719Trailer for the cringe ass movie with cringe ass interview with the child actors and gameplay for the HIRE-THIS-GUY remake
>>746860253Obviously >>746860361You already said this sonegro
>>746856372>opening Darunia’s door with the ocarina works great in a blocky, arcade-looking game, but today it could feel a bit weird and contrivedYou can play an ocarina and have it open a door, magically, without feeling "weird" or "contrived", no matter how detailed the graphics are. It's called "being in a fucking fatansy setting". Retard.I'm so glad I my childhood happened before the death of whimsy. Fuck.
>>746853386>even though an N64-era game would need a total overhaul to avoid feeling dated or overly "game-y" No, it would NOT.The gameplay is already near perfect, and we NEED more games to feel like a goddamn VIDEO GAME for once.Anything 1998 practically BTFO of anything post-2008, in every possible metric. Better use the unironic pinnacle of gaming as your model than anything "modern" and cancerous.>Outsourced to JeetsWooow, what a surprise!Literally the only problem here at the moment. On top of the soulless UE5-wannabe art.
>>746860070Ganondorf is not the same in Four Swords Adventures, not the same in Link to the Past, not the same in Oracle of Ages/Seasons, not the same in Botw/Totk,
>>746860659It’s being done by monolith soft.
>>746859575It's bullshit Necrfelipe already confirmed it's not 1:1> Não será 1:1 de acordo com as minhas fontes. Uma diversidade de modernizações foram aplicadas, sistemas repensados e afins. Não darei nenhum nenhum spoiler do que eu já fiquei sabendo. Vocês merecem a chance de serem surpreendidos pela Nintendo nesse que me parece ser um remake bem ambicioso.> According to my sources, it won't be a 1:1 remake. A variety of modernizations have been implemented, systems have been redesigned, and so on. I won't give away any spoilers about what I've already learned. You deserve the chance to be surprised by Nintendo with what seems to me to be a very ambitious remake.
>>746857663>literally just add the manga stuff like how Impa trains Zelda to become a SheikahI dunno, I always thought the coolest part about this in the original game was that it was a "read between the lines" kinda thing. Link spent 7 years napping, while Impa escaped with the princess and trained her to be a badass ninja. She even uses the same Deku Nut "ninja vanish" trick as Impa every time you meet her. It was a cool moment of "show, don't tell" that is increasingly rare in video games (and media of all kinds, if we're being honest)The only reason to show it would be if they made Zelda/Shiek playable, and I'm not sure I want that.
>>746860361kek that's exactly what will happen
>>746860885Basically babyified and censore for the larger, modern audience that was brought in with botw
>new Mischief Makers rumored
I swear to god, if all the bitching from twitter and bluesky trannies causes the Gerudo losing their Arabian Nights belly dancer aesthetic due to "muh orientalism" I'm going to fucking lose it.>"But it's just internet bullshit!"And Nintendo of America's dangerhairs and goony beardmen are inclined to listen to that bullshit and encourage the Japs to vandalise their own game for the sake of appealing to modern audiences.
>>746860980Fair point but ad it's a REmake and subtlety is sadly dead today anyway
>>746861078>All dungeons have been remade to feature helpful shortcuts and hints so everyone can conquers them!
>>746853386>an N64-era game would need a total overhaul to avoid feeling dated or overly "game-y" since modern graphics leave far less to the imagination than retro graphics)Worked for Star Fox on Switch 2.
>>746861235they haven't lost it in botw and totk so why would they now. the problem is that they're going to make them giants for feminism pointsoot is the only zelda where link actually towers over a lot of characters or at least frame-mogs them, which did include the gerudos. they will twink max him
>>746861318that's an arcade shooter and last time i checked people give it crap even itt
>>746859110always thought it was weird how Link would automatically conform to the bend in the path past the last bridge here, even if you just held the control stick directly forward. To my recollection, it was the only place in the game like that. But it was also oddly satisfying.Man, I spent way too much time with this game.
>>746860659>The gameplay is already near perfectIs this perfect gameplay in the room with you now
>>746860681>gimmick coop game>game that doesn't even have Ganondorf>Capcom asset swap shitYeah totally as relevant as the big budget 3D games that serve as the centerpiece of the timeline and literally invented Ganondorf.
>>746854393>It's frustrating that I have like a billion ideas to make a OoT remake not only work but actual kinoIf you genuinely did you could implement pretty much any/all of them in SoH like right at this moment.
>>746861491Yes, OoT is groundbreaking and fun in ways people don't even know. If you want to be a mentally ill, reality denying fanboy stuck in the 90s you can go to /vr/
>>746861715damn
>>746853809This but there were several in-house teams back in the day; nowadays it seems like they just have one team that only handles mainline zeldas, as well as a lot of subsidiary studios like Retro, Intelligent Systems, Monoloth, etc that mostly handle specific sets of IPs.R&D1 was my favorite; and that got shut down decades ago. It seems like one of the reasons so many nintendo franchises are dead and only get games if nintendo can outsource them, is because they dissolved the teams that would work on them.That said I did like the mercurysteam metroids quite a bit, but they're the exception
>>746857735>black woman>quite literally a white woman with a tanThey'll take a victory lap over anything huh?
>>746861715I love how the iframe roll works in Ocarina even if it didn't do much with it; the invulnerability is delayed so you have to set it up and can't just spam it like in Souls. The remake will just do Flurry Rush shit.
>>746861980They are tourists who don't know that like 50% of anime blondes have a tan. Even in western cartoons, it's just basic color theory
>>746861715It's actually weird how there was simply nothing like it.
>>746859575>the same game with ugly graphics, obnoxious dialogue, and slightly "off" bootlegged gameplayGenuinely why would anyone be interested in this, just replay the original or play it for the first time if you haven't alreadySame with the starfox demake
>>746861387If they're smart they will use this opportunity to actually give us a genuinely strong looking, maybe even rugged Link. Doesn't necessarily have to be very tall, which legit isn't so good for third person games since it makes it harder to see the enemy (Onimusha 4)
>>746856991NINTENDO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>746861715We have OoTfags bragging about iframes when the game is already piss easy
>>746853386>"Make a 1:1 remake so everyone will hate it hahaha">"Let's not even have blue hair Stacy improve the writing and add new music, not even a new quest marker system or online shop">25 million copies in a week
>>746862113
>>746862403>piss easyIt's easy to think that when you know it inside out but I watch every streamer who plays OoT and they unironically rage nonstop, need to be handheld and die to shit you wouldn't even believe. Oh and despite rewind/savescumming on Switch 2
>>746853386We will know in a week, doomie.
>>746854393a dog that shits itself hourly could make better zelda games than modern nintendo
>>746859283Monolithsoft has 2 dev teams, this has been known about for years.
>>746861590>game that doesn't even have Ganondorfhe lacks critical information
Picrel is already an Ocarina of Time remake down to Volvagia. Releasing this and another remake so close together just risks theme fatigue.Nintendo retardation works in mysterious ways.
>>746857735That's just a gyaru
>>746861715ah yes, iframes, the perfect gameplay
>>746862980good game, just lacks its own sauce
>>746863230AAA games don't even have this level of interactivity now
>>746863008*ganguroYou need to get your nip lingo right.
>>746863230This is the kind of stuff that blew my mind back then.Simple things can do that.
>>746863230This kinda stuff is very important, Gaben talked about it. Just being able to interact with things for the sake of it and the world reacting to you. Wondering how interactive the remake is going to be but not expecting BotW meme levels
>>746863230perhaps my favorite place, amazing atmospherehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTG_ZJ3k3uk&list=RDgTG_ZJ3k3uk&start_radio=1
>>746861491Yes, it literally is, since I'm playing the decomp.
>>746862980I only played a little bit of it, but it felt more like another attempt at ALttP/LA. The map certainly took more cues from ALttP than OoT Hyrule Field.
>>746863051Jumping through the web in the Deku Tree alone mogs 99% of games. Learn to read, just posting an example of something people don't even know
>>746863051Yes, OoT had a way more interesting implementation of iframes than Souls did years beforehand, especially since enemies have attacks that actually counter your iframes.It genuinely has bonkers combat depth given all the crazy shit you can do in it.
>>746864191>roll is silent and so is your magic quick spin attack
>>746864268>farore's windunderrated. most water dungeon hate comes from people who don't use it
>>746862113And they don't know surrealism. I saw someone argue the king in WW or BotW (literally a ghost) is brown because of his skin.
>>746864268Always felt like that segment was inspired by the fight between all the rocks in the first Conan movie.
>>746862503so glad this stopped being 'in'
>>746864268the game is so fucking ugly in 60fps, the animators didn't consider a linear progress between frames this is so awful
>>746865220It unironically doesn't feel right on PC. Needs a CRT too.
The only way I'm buying is if it's directed by someone who actually directed Zelda games before which, as silly as it sounds, feels unlikely. Dunno why Square manages to do it with FF7 but Nintendo can't with their legendary game.
>>746863230>20 years later...
>>746861987>The remake will just do Flurry Rush shit.I fucking hate flurry rush. I hate pretty much everything BotW added, in retrospect. So much of it is just decompressing normal gameplay into something that wastes your time, all in the name of trying to feel "bigger". It's okay to have enemies that die after just one or two hits. It's a fucking Zelda game.
>>746864191>Jumping through the web in the Deku Tree alone mogs 99% of gameskek
>>746863926I think it's a large part of why the TES and Fallout games have gotten so popular. You very rarely run into something you try to interact with and can't.
>>746862617>I watch every streamer who plays OoT and they unironically rage nonstopI wouldn't know anything about watching streamers because I'm not a gay faggot, but there is a bit of jankiness about OoT that ends up being compounded if you've played more recent Zelda games, if only because they're still based on the same core game engine, but with literal decades of tweaks and refinement. There's nothing objectively wrong or bad about OoT's mechanics, but there's a definite "roughness" to them that becomes more apparent when you're familiar with its successors.If I had to guess, many of these gay faggot streamers you watch probably played stuff like Twilight Princess or BotW first, then went back to OoT, and it can definitely add an extra layer of jank that you might not register otherwise. Of particular note is just how short Link's range is. You really have to get up in an enemy's business to hit them with regular slashes, moreso than in later games.
Love the vibe of this topic, seriosuly giving retro oldschool 2010-2011 4chan.>>746860701Those are jeets! Like have you seen there forced diversaty games of Xenoblades 3 and Genasis?????
Every leaker should be lynched by their balls and their families should have to pay their legal debts
>>746865845tbf that's a bad thing in SE's case
>>746853386>Nintendo no longer wants to make classic 3D ZeldasAonuma a hack
>>746853386>feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
Unfreezing Zoras Domain would be kino
>>746864191For me it's shield dropping bombs and playing like it's bomberman.
>>746853386god i can't wait to watch DSP play it
>>746855483If you actually read the reviews, most of them were rating the quality of the port itself, and most Dreamcast ports suffered in some way. There was also an expectation back then that a re-release should have added content, and a lot of these ports were very barebones.
