THIS IS STILL BROKEN FFS
NERF THIS SHIT TOO
END COMET SPAM PLS
>>746861941how about you git gud? miyazaki knows better than you
>>746862169I tried to git gud and got doxed for it. Fuck this game.
Starshower is the only one you posted which is annoying, you can't dodge it. The rest are all easily avoided.
>>746862473Post the one where you are using the cheats.
>>746861941>93920 spells in the game>93917 are complete utter garbage useless>3 are good>dude nerf it lmaowhy are you like this
>>746861941Jump>>746861967Roll and walk around>>746862032Roll twice>>746862093Roll
>>746861941Thats a really satisfying icon to look at
>>746861941>>746861967>>746862032>>746862093ah yes, time for a new playthrough>teleport to caelid>grab meteor staff>grab rock sling>snipe 90% of caelid at level 10 for 999999 runes and free somberstones until 9elden ring is hard btw
>>746862725>"smellden ring is tuff"Only if your bad
>>746862807>tuff
At 70 Mind I can cast like 20+ comets in succession it’s pretty stupid yeah
>>746862871Whats that ? Looks like runescape
>>746862516Gotchu since the troonster is definitely going to ignore you so he doesn't have to explain this.
Twin Moons IS bustedIt has hyper armorIt still activates even if you’re interrupted or dieIt has a huge radius on the third explosion which dupes people every time
>>746862934Bayle's Tyranny does not summon a wing. You clearly see a wing being summoned. The enemy has a dragon communion seal in his left hand.
>>746862725This but i kill the limgrave dragon, beeline to dragon cathedral and get rot breath, i can now run past every enemy in the mines and kill the tunnel wyrm and get to altus less than an hour after stqrting the game
>>746862725unironically easier than comet azur'ing bosses
>>746863076What are you talking about? Did someone mention bayle or wings? You can't cast any spells with 2 reduvias out.
>>746863165>You can't cast any spells with 2 reduvias out.You can if you are using cheats.
>>746863165I'm not casting any spells in the webm. The original claim was "you're casting bayle's tyranny through some exploit despite not having a seal equipped" and that is not what is happening. I'm spamming dual reduvia L1, to the point I overswing and continue after the enemy is dead.
>>746863274What original claim idiot? You have dual reduvias out and you are casting a glitchy spell while having them out. You are cheating.
>>746863274>The original claim waspost the one with you using cheats. So anon posted it knowing you wouldn't and then you starteed coping vigorously.
>>746863358>and you are castingFalse. You're low IQ. The only dragon incantation I have equipped is Bayle's Tyranny. Bayle's Tyranny does not summon a wing or yellow lightning.
>>746863502What is that giant spell that glitches out as you are spamming dual daggers?
I love spamming comet lol
>>7468635621) It's not glitching, that is clearly an intended VFX2) I don't know, some dragon communion spell I've never used
>>746863453>and then you starteed coping vigorously.He'll go for hours now all wound up. Calling out cheaters always ends the same way.
>>746861941looks like deez
>>746863734I laughed and now I gotta pee
>>746863734I always see that meme of squidward having a heart attack. I know there are twin-bird references in all the spells but I see squidward first in twin moons.
>magic is... le OP!meanwhile the true easy mode is stacking armor/HP and spamming lions claw or raptors of the mist while using a colossal weapon.https://youtu.be/itzttvrHqXg
>>746863958Everything in the game is OP, intentionally. The devs want you to beat the game.
"Hope the players dies over and over, annhilating the pacing and having a bad time" - game devs
Who cares it's a single player game
Golem Fists feel fun as fuck to use after the update.
>>746864168Red women care about this game almost as much as the actual playerbase their concerns should be listened to. I'm not telling you to believe all red women but their view is valid.
>Heavy Weapon users crying about magic being OP....LOL
>>746864284Happens with all redcels they complain regardless.
Gravitational missile didn’t need to be nerfed. Sure it was annoying, but it was just wrath of the gods, basically. Twin moons didn’t need to be buffed either
>>746863067Cherishing Fingers also activates even if you’re interrupted. Not sure if it’s a bug or not.
The only build you will ever need as a pure glintstone sorcererSpells?- Carian Slicer- Rellana's Twin Moons- Terra Magica- Cannon of Haima- Comet- Spiral Shard- Glintstone Pebble- Swift Glintstone Shard- Star ShowerTalismans?- Godfrey Icon- Primal Glintstone Blade- Graven-Mass Talisman- Magic Scorpion CharmWeapons?- Carian Regal Scepter (right hand)- Lusat's Glintstone Staff (right hand)- Azur's Glintstone Staff (left hand)- Jellyfish Shield (left hand)Gear?- Azur's Glintstone Crown- Azur's Manchettes- Old Sorcerer's Legwraps - Braided Cord RobeItems?- Warming Stone- Uplifting Aromatic- Albinauric Pot- Lulling Branch- Boiled Crab- Boluses(varying)
>>746864686Love this pasta, things must not being going good on other board.
>>746864686Fucking faggot
>>746864686you forgot both soreseals and 20 vigor at RL 150+ so you die in 1-2 hits
>>746864686That’s a lot of damage magnification.
>>746864686>no rock sling so anything with magic defense will take no damage>graven mass taliaman is a wasted slot because the buff is like 2% extra damageOther than that its a solid build
>>746861941Hehehe, it's like boobs
>>746861941What? Why would this need a nerf? It's mediocre for pve and useless for gank squads. It's basically only good as a defensive invader tool against overly aggressive teams.>>746861967Not really. It's fine for pve and the nerf made it a lot worse for gankers while it's arguable better for invaders, as it should be.>>746862032This is bullshit. Yeah. Needs the same tracking nerf as Stars of Ruin.
>>746865021Rock sling is sluggish. Just overkill your enemy with pure magic power. I melted Rellana on my first try just by spamming Comet. She didn’t even get the chance to cast her two boob- I mean two moons. Graven Mass is an 8% magic damage increase. The Magic Scorpion Charm is a 12% magic damage increase. That’s a whopping 20% damage increase when taken together.
>>746865418>Rock sling is sluggishNot if you use it for its 1 use case everyone uses it for.
>>746861941just jump retard>>746861967just run retard>>746862032just uh....valid point but you nerfed stars of ruin so shut up>>746862093just roll retard
>>746865572The stun? Yeah it’s good on dragons I guess…
>>746866341Makes a wall to help with zoning, if it hits anything that is a bonus.
>>746865230>It's mediocre for pve and useless for gank squads>useless for gank squads LMAO no. Just run around a corner and pop it. It’s hilarious how easy it is to kill groups of threes in tight spaces. Anon is not incorrect when he says it’s absolute bullshit. The two moons will still explode even if the caster dies, assuming they materialize. It’s retarded.
Why is it considered acceptable to complain about literally any spell as overpowered but no weapon can ever slandered as such? The Blasphemous Blade or Giant Crusher w/ Lion's Claw is so comically overpowered yet no one, NO ONE, ever complains about it.
>>746866824I didn't say against gank squads. By "for" I meant as a took for gankers to use.It's not bullshit. It's only effective against overly aggressive people. It's a defensive tool that is utterly worthless outside of an invader using it defensively against a gank squad mindlessly rushing him down.
>>746866824You can do that with anything. I stand still and stormblade the invader until they are dead it always works.
>>746866973Probably because 95% of this game’s player base consists of martially minded individuals who accentuate their combat with magic instead of using magic alone like the remaining 5%. This is why it’s always magic that’s being whines about. It’s always martial babies throwing a hissy fit.
>mixing magic typesFail rp , clearly a meta tryhard
>>746867215>clearly a meta tryhardIt is a thread for an invader clown to cry so yeah.
>>746867084>You can do that with anythingI mean, sure? Except no other spell is as conditioned to automate itself the way it does, and no other spell (other than Cherishing Fingers, which appears to also activate automatically even if you’re interrupted mid-cast) have contingencies in the case it fails (if you’re interrupted mid-cast it still nonetheless activates at 2/3 capacity, only lacking the final third explosion which requires you to not be interrupted).
>>746865021>rock slingThe last patch made Meteorite a lot faster to cast, it's pretty funny and will delete stuff way faster than rock sling or most other spells.
>>746867308>I mean, sure?Yep.
>>746867335I am of the opinion that spells like Meteorite (and Astel’s variant) should have costed WAY more Intelligence… to denote how fucking MASSIVE those spells are in the lore, and gameplay…Rellana’s moons could only take out a single town, while Astel annihilated an entire fucking civilization and then buried it. The stat requirements make me scratch my head a bit. Something as massive as Meteorite should have been 60+ Intelligence IMO.I also wish Founding Rain of Stars was a lot bigger for such a significant legendary spell.
Sorry I’m still learning English as my third language >>746867308has*>>746867518cost*
Actually just started Elden Rangz and always do a full INT sort of build in games with magic options. Love me magic. Simple as. Can I get some genuine advice on which equipment and spells I should shoot for early? For example, I already heard I should sprint over for the meteorite staff and rock sling and then staff of loss. What else? I assume my outfit doesn't matter much, but is there anything to get early for Fashion Souls?
>>746866973Remember rivers of blood?
>>746863076Its disheartening knowing everything good in the game was botched by fromslop because of clips like this
>>746862692Yeah because it looks like 2 balls. Fagget
I love how they nerfed stars of ruin but for some reason kept star shower as it is
>>746868186Go melee mage with Carian Slicer. It's very strong.
>>746868476It wasn’t complained about hard enough
What’s the best spell to have as an emergency? I noticed if you hold the spell swap button it goes back to the first spell in the list.
>>746868186Yes, the meteor staff and rock sling are so fucking awesome.Its a bit later but try rush getting the big beam (comet azure) too. That beam will carry you through 90% of the boss encounters. Slinging those rocks can stun lock so many enemys.The real prize is adulas moon blade and rotten rannis moon.Adulas is so insanely strong its wild. It can strike through walls, if you position yourself right you hit with the blade and the big ice beam off the end will hit guys twice and insta kill 99.99% of invaders.If you get bored of magic, dont be afraid to dabble in dragon incantations. Rotten Crotch Breath/Scarlett Rot Breath absolutly fucking annihilates everything. It even rapes people immune to scarlet rot but its a hard one to master and get your timing down with so you dont get rushed and gapped.Scarlet rot breath and beams carried me through the DLC.
>unga bunga rock sling99 int btw
>>746869021>It’s a bit later but try rush getting the big beam (comet azure) too. That beam will carry you through 90% of the boss encounters. No it won’t. They fucking butchered that spell because they were too terrified a 3 slot spell (THREEEEE SLOTS) would be too powerful. It doesn’t track enemies so it’s impossible to land. Rennala’s version in her fight tracks the player, though. What’s even funnier is her own moon spell in her boss fight is worse (functions more like flame of the fell god) than the one the player gets.
>>746869327He's right comet azur will rape the game for you. Even using it once (1 time) on a boss to delete 40% of their hp is good.
>>746863734who the fuck is steve jobs?
>>746861941Is it still peak invasion season?
Comet Azur if used/stacked properly will delete even Malenia
>>746869694Yes. Lot of free flasks before hitting the boss right now.
>>746869495Oh sure, except IT IS TOO TEDIOUS to land, because Miyazaki is a fucking fag. Go ahead and try using it on an enemy on the stairs. Comet is more efficient and does more compressed damage in a single split second cast.
I followed my own question by looking up some popular outfits for sorcerors. I fear I'll be using the astrologer set for a long time. Most of these seem late and ugly.
Comet Azur deleting bosses on ng+7https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mO1-GlezwNc&pp=ygUcQ29tZXQgYXp1ciBvbiBhbGwgYm9zc2VzIG5nKw%3D%3D&ra=m
>>746867518gravity spells having low requirements is lore. the things casting them are rock people space aliens and radahn.
>>746864341The fuck is a redcel?
>>746869327Anon.. I didnt kbow they nerfed it into the ground.I know they nerfed rot breath but it was still so ungodly powerful I didnt think to mention it. Unless that got another nerf?Why have magic if you dont want it to be broken and powerful?I can grab a hunk of metal and run around hitting people with it right now. What i cant do is conjuring the dead, harness the power of the aether and fire a reality shattering beam or eat the heart of a dragon, gain its powers and blast all who displeased me away. If I pray really hard to Jesus, hes not going to open a shift of light that melts the skin off my boss or something.How annoying. Magic and incants used to be so much fun. You could just clap every cheek but it took so much work and effort to get to that point. High risk/high reward.
>>746869797You press L1 and it hits what you were aiming at. You'll get the timing down as you play more.
I played so much ER on launch I’ll never touch it again.
Im still upset we couldn't consort MiquellaImagine being in him up to your nuts as malenia is licking you two all over?You can lie and say you wouldnt be into but >picrel
>>746869932I’ve also long suspected this. Notice how the meteorite staff doesn’t need to be upgraded, despite how primitive looking as a catalyst it is. It’s likely that gravity magic is just naturally potent on its own. Space cows and space bugs can cast gravity magic. Lusat’s conspectus barely requires any intelligence either, and he’s slowly turning into some sort of blue Astel variant. The nature of intelligence is even brought into question. Olivinus sorceries behave a lot more alive (a bunch of stars seeking enemies out) than the Karolos sorceries so perhaps that’s why it needs less intelligence. But then you have Radagon’s wolves that can cast fucking Comet… …are they high iq wolves, or is casting sorcery instinctual for some forms of life? Could Radagon’s wolves, or Astel, teach or lecture a class of sorcerers? I wonder if that one Onyx (Alabaster?) Lord at the academy was a professor of gravity magic…
>>746868186Night Comet is easily the most busted spell in the game, way more so than Comet Azur which is just for memes as it doesn't do nearly as much damage and is way more of a pain in the ass to landAll the enemies in the game that rely on input reading have it backfire on them since Night Comet is programmed to have them not react to it. The result is enemies will slowly walk to you as you delete their HP in under half a minute with staff of loss in one hand for the damage boost + your other strongest staffThe only bosses in the base game where Night Comet won't work on as well is Rennala because of her magic resist so you use Rock Sling instead, and big enemies like dragons where you use Spiral Shard instead
>>746870093>cast comet azur at enemy on stairs>it shoots at the step right fucking below them>”take one more step you bitch”>”um no”>”pls im almost out of mana”>”turning the other way now bye“>”REEE”This is what PvEing with Comet Azur is like
They made parrying insanely good in the new patch and its going to suck when it gets nerfed again
>>746870548Comet Azur does disgusting damage if you stack damage magnifiers and can land it properly, but yeah in general the Comet spells are more efficient since they’re easier to land and do more compressed damage in seconds. Night Comet is especially good if you struggle landing spells on nimble dodge-happy enemies.
>>746870662You'll get better at playing the game over time bro don't sweat your first run.
>>746870751??? Isn't it just the same as pre-patch carrian retaliation.
>>746870470Astel goes “durrrr dur, DUR DURRRR” and then vomits out violet hued cosmic destruction to the absolute bewilderment of the Raya Lucarians
If demihumans can cast sorcery I guess anyone can
Is Founding Rain of Stars usable now? It's the coolest spell in the game. But the answer is "no", right?
>>746870417>i want to jizz in a man's ass and lick his freshly prostate milked nut off his tummyGAY
>>746870548>because of her magic resistI mean, you ARE fighting a magic-made construct conjured by Ranni, not the flesh and blood Rennala herself. I’d assume a magic-made construct would be resistant to the thing that made it.
>>746871027It’s the coolest spell in the game and yet I wanted it to be a lot more destructive like Meteorite. Also Rain of Fire pisses me off for stealing its glory.
>>746864686>Spells?>- Carian Slicerthat's all you need
>>746870918I think they increased the window on how long its active and buffed the medium shield and curved sword ones
The Carian regal scepter hanging up in the academy has a green glintstone and that triggers me since I’d rather one that boosts regular glintstone sorceries than gay ass femoid moon magic
>>746871034No, I want his twin sister to lick his creamy fresh load off his tight little tummy after I finish busting an earthshattering nut into his tight, virgin butthole.Mohg? He can watch.
>>746871308Yep. There is a bonny cleaver on a table in morne castle.
>>746863958the timing is too easy to catch, spells can be combined to make an impossible to decipher timing
>>746870030That anon is butthurt. They didn’t NERF it so much as GIMP the meme beam process. Terra Magica doesn’t boost you as much anymore, and the infinite mana sippy doesn’t last as long now. You can tell they panicked from all the memes since this was a very dumb decision.
>>746861941They nerfed my favorite sorcery in the game
>>746871441Aren’t there two variants of the Bonny Cleaver in the game? One from the actual Bonny village psychos and one from Anastasia, Tarnished Eater? Does this link Anastasia to the Hornsent in any way at all? Or was she just inspired by their horrible and gruesome ways?
>>746870417>>746871034>>746871409The pearly gates won’t open for your kind
>>746871570Those poor chicks.>>746871642Yeah but bonny cleavers come from the shadowlands and there is 1 in Morne Castle. Weird huh?
>>746871781Shadowlands was once connected to the Lands. Liurnia snd Stormveil should know about the Hornsent, since they’re neighbours, geographically speaking.
>>746871914I know.
I really do hate how the three slot spells aren’t even good, or practical. If you’re going to invest in three fucking spell slots you better make the spell worthwhile. But apparently not?
>>746872097Totally
>>746872097Yeah. Scarlet Aeonia and Comet Azur do have their niches but Placidusax’s Ruin is a mess.
>>746872097They treated casting properly for the first time since Bloodborne, which was probably the first time they had truly unique/interesting animations for their spells that wasn't just generic magic missile variants. Unfortunately 95% of the "BIG SPELLS" are still vastly inferior and not worth it, get beaten by basic ass shit like Carian Slicer, or Glintstone Pebble.So it's cool they tried and really went all out with some of the insane animations. Just a shame they couldn't balance it.
I hate how much better Ranni’s moon is compared to her mom’s.
My heart races so fast when I’m confronted with a Comet spammer. Just one fucking hit and like 80% of your health is just gone. What the hell. I hate them. I HATE THEM. I don’t WANT to constantly panic roll in random directions.
>>746872771Max cast speed is pure cancer and every single time I see someone with Azur’s staff, which registers as 40 dex, I know it’s going to be an annoying fight
>>746872771>>746872952You can just strafe it you noobs. It's annoying but the real cancer is Star Shower and the onion rings.
>>746874227>onion ringsWhich one specifically?
>>746874517There is exactly 1 spell that is referred to as "onion rings."
>>746874517I'd guess multilayered rings of light.
>>746874762>>746874517Sigh it's Rings of Spectral Light you shitters.
>>746874868Don’t yell at me
>>746871756I want his pink hole to open
Fuck floating swords
>>746874868Doesn't seem like an onion to me but okay.
I'm glad everyone agrees long rang attacks and spells feels and plays like shit in dark soul games and that Miyazaki has no idea what to do to make the gameplay interesting
>>746861941you could not live with your failure. where did that bring you? back to me.
>>746875739Yeah I hate how they don’t let you snipe
>>746875601I don't think they ever sat down and thought about it. Spells in DeS and DaS always felt like a sort of cheating "suplement" for the general melee gameplay. You weren't supposed to keep your distance and spam spells, you were supposed to use them while your enemies were at range.
>>746862934Now that's embarrassing. Imagine being such a subhuman that you have to cheat at pvp just to get a """win""">>746863076You are a degenerate subhuman
>>746862725>>snipe 90% of caelid at level 10 for 999999 runes>not rushing the Varre quest to get access to the underground crow/albinauric rune farmngmi
>>746875739it's not even about sniping, you can't even hit dudes with glintstone pebble for most of the outer range of lock-on, even throwing knives are bettershit just sucks in general, magic constantly gets blocked by pixels sticking out from the environment, wasting your precious FP and timebetter off spamming ashes of war or jump attacks
>>746876840Yeah I don’t know why they didn’t let us cast from far away. They’re really scared about giving magic too much. Why? Why are they scared?
>>746876625>You weren't supposed to keep your distance and spam spells, you were supposed to use them while your enemies were at range.Did we play different games? You can absolutely spam magic from a reliable distance in the first two games. It’s just weird seeing sorcerers starting with shields. Miyazaki was always more martially minded. Even Big Hat Logan is using a shield. Very silly. Although I guess this could be a nod to how militaristic Vinheim is.
>>746862032This is bad. Almost impossible to avoid chip damage in PVP.
>>746862093Comet spam is kino because you know by the end the mage is going to be a useless little cuck.
>souls pvpWhat a bunch of mongoloids go play a real pvp game
>>746862934>>746876704Where is the cheat there? The opponent looks to be casting either a Bayle incant or the Bear Roar incant, while the player Bleed spams them to death. The amount of Arcane needed to spam that much bleed that fast and cast all those high level FTH/INT spells is sus, but this could easily be a max level fight.
>>746878983Souls pvp requires a higher spatial IQ than fighting games
>>746879140There is no cheat, he claimed on /vg/ that I(the webm poster) was casting Bayle's Tyranny while dual wielding reduvias somehow, but the spell VFX doesn't look anything like Bayle's Tyranny. The other guy was casting some dragon incant with a long windup and I slashed him up.
>>746879206bro, i-frames do not require any spatial awareness, you're completely invulnerable
>>746864951Being a glass cannon mage works for every boss other than Consort Radahn.
>>746879337You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>746878515You could, but it didn't feel like you were playing the game right and the game threw you so many magic melee options.It's like nobody on the team conceptualized "How do we make players who want to be "weak when up close" mages and archers" like what Capcom did with Dragon's Dogma.Elden Ring was the closest with how some early game spells feel better to use than ever before, but they still don't get it.The fact that after all these years they introduced a hot-key system by holding Y, only to fumble it by not letting it work with spells is insane to me. Just rip off Code Veins skill map system already.
>>746868186Rogier's set gives you a bonus to weapon skill magic damage and looks decent.Rennala's crown is ugly, but gives 3 free INT levels. I normally just go with whatever is the heaviest armor set I can for my Endurance limit because the bonus isn't outstanding and damage negation is always good.
>>746866824>Just run around a corner and pop it.And you found out two years after the spell came out? Only newbies fall for it and the moment you people can't trick those with no knowledge of basic PvP tricks you consistently embarrass yourselves.It's been especially bad after the last patch buffed parries so tons of your redmen scared of the parry metagame are shifting to corner spellcasting or worse, spamming Muleta, sometimes even both at the same time.>>746879206Fuck no it doesn't, the only knowledge you need outside of the fact that taking PvP even remotely seriously is a waste of time is literally RPS knowledge of what beats what, "spacing" is a fucking meme especially given how dogshit the netcode is.
>>746868768In PVP? Zamor Ice Storm, AKA, "Get the fuck away from me" button. In PVE, Gravitational Missile used to be the GOAT. It is still decent, but not the same.
>>746879787>the only knowledge you need outside of the fact that taking PvP even remotely seriously is a waste of time isYou can't even type in English, retard.
>>746870417>>746871409Absurdly based.
>>746861941Nerf it for what? It's a single player game that everyone is already fucking done with.
>>746879992>Facts aren't knowledgeGo back to your little lagging fight club where you can pretend you're good at games
>>746880116>non sequiturYou're literally incapable of communication, you public educated chimp.
>>746879448Oh gotcha! You le got me with that awesome reply that says... absolutely nothing.
>>746871441Fromsoft's level decorators are not that anal for it to mean anything.
>>746880495You don't even know what an i-frame is. You're not qualified to engage in a discussion on this topic.
>>746880601Invulnerable frame. Are you going to finally post something with content now?
>>746881779It took you 15 minutes to google the definition of i-frames, you don't know that i-frames exist in games other than Dark Souls, and you didn't go to college.
>>746882148I was playing games. Now why do you think what I said I'm wrong? You've been avoiding a proper discussion this entire time, for some reason.
>>746882414Because you said "dark souls have i-frames" when EVERY SINGLE FIGHTING GAME HAS I FRAMES YOU RETARDED HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATED PROLE
>>746882670My oddly angered friend that took 1 hour to come up with an answer, that literally means souls games require the same spatial awareness than fighting games. You not only took an hour to come up with that, but didn't even realize that it was a void argument for your cause.
>>746879206Souls PvP is terrible. These games were not designed for PvP and never will be. Do you even know what the "high level" gameplay looks like? It's the most uninteresting boring defensive dogshit ever. Both players waiting for their opponent to mess up until the heat death of the universe because everything is reactable and there might as well not be a time limit. If you want to play to not lose, there is nothing your opponent can do about it. Even if you could fix the gameplay, the players are all rejects who cant handle a real competition.
>>746879787Imagine recording anything as a blueberry and thinking it's impressive lmao.
>>746870417Extremely gayI will concede that if a girl was playing as a female Tarnished and wanted a Miquella ending so she could have her permanent shota husband, then that loops back around to being based af
>>746861941The only fun i had with Elden Ring's PvP was shooting the Jar cannon from a mile away then hiding until the host plugged out the internet cable.
>>746862473Invading with an INT/FAI build at level 200 is honestly easier than twinking. It's just>random bullshit gobut your random bullshit alternates between>homing projectiles>homing projectiles that blind your opponent>a fucking nuke>carpet bombing>a fucking nuke with hyper armor that punishes your opponent for trying to punish your carpet bombing>giant melee spells>giant melee spells with hyper armor>true combos that deal 1,500 damageand they're all knowledge checks. On the other hand, you're useless if someone knows all your knowledge checks.
>>746869694Yes. Get it while the getting's good. Seamless just got updated too.
>>746870918Medium shields now have Carian Retaliation frame data (good), but buckler, dagger, curved sword, thrusting sword, fist, and claw parries got buffed so that they now counter mashing R1 if you do it out of hit stun. Whether you think this is a good or bad thing depends on your perspective, but it is a significant change.
>>746871027It's usable, especially against big enemies. It's not bad for area denial against players, but not amazing either.
>>746862725Running and grabbing should only be legitimate if you manage to do it without dying.
>>746884789>Imagine recording anything as a blueberry and thinking it's impressive lmao.aaaaawwww
>>746864686>>746861941Wait, isn't Twin Moons garbage? It has no hyper armor, so enemies easily interrupt the very long animation. Or is it more useful in PvP?
>>746861941> A pair of balls is too powerful What did he mean by that?
>>746887573It is, but there's some sneaky PvP setups that can create a full combo that can oneshot people.
>Fromsoft PvP
>>746887947This
>>746887573>Wait, isn't Twin Moons garbageIt was, until they increased its radius. >It has no hyper armorIt does. I just used it at the academy. No spell stopped it from happening. I also it around Castle Sol. The phantom knights only occasionally interrupted me. It’s like that one Milkweed attack in Bloodborne. A hyper armor explosion. It doesn’t get cancelled unless you’re really struck good.
>>746879787>Only newbies fall for itAbsolute cope, kek. You’ll say this for literally every single “overpowered” thing, even Stars of Ruin, or Rivers of Blood.
>>746861941is the reddit established competitive soul level even high enough to be able to use this
>>746879726>but it didn't feel like you were playing the game right and the game threw you so many magic melee options.Um there are barely any melee spells at all in the first game. It’s just different levels of sword + shield enchantments. It was only in Dark Souls 2 that they added the magical sword spells.
>>746888847Who the fuck dies to either of those?
>>746862473this idiots mistake was staying in an enclosed area
Anon is right about the hyper armor; unlike regular projectile spells I don’t get knocked down as easily when I turn into the two balls; I can also dodge some attacks if the enemies are short
>>746885664shoudn't be an issue since running is the best defence in this game. enemies wind up slow ass attacks and their best chance at hitting you is with homing ranged bullshit. like the cum torpedoes.
Stars of Ruin was never broken and it was only nerfed because of constant whiners. >>746878821Nobody thought Star Shower would be the exact same sort of ”overpowered” due to nobody picking it over Stars of Ruin (“the higher level spell must be better right bros??? they wouldn’t make a legendary spell worse than its smaller version right bros???”), so nobody complained about Star Shower, even though Star Shower has the same tracking power as pre-nerf Stars of Ruin. Star Shower now has BETTER tracking power than Stars of Ruin. FromSoft is fucking stupid sometimes.
>>746887573Sigh.I wish you morons would actually read patch notes:— Patch 1.14 added hyperarmor to Rellana's Twin Moons, making the spell much more resistant to interruption during its long casting animation.They also increased the range massively; particularly the third explosion which is a lot larger than the first two. Yes the spell was given too much. They probably won’t nerf it either because for some reason people think it’s still crap.
>>746889292>long casting timeIt’s not even long. It only requires 1/2 of the cast length since interruptions won’t cancel the manifested moons, only the final third explosion which requires the caster to not be interrupted. It is a multi faceted spell. Even if the caster DIES the two moons will STILL explode, likely killing your opponent who thought he just won the fight. It’s fucking hilarious. “If I’m going down I’m taking you with me”.
>>746889292>They probably won’t nerf it eitherThey shouldn't fucking nerf it, they should fucking buff the other spells like Founding Rain which are something like a 72 fucking Int requirement and useless against anything but giant bosses (so still useless because a million other things can slaughter bosses just as easily, being "good" in select PVE encounters is no fucking metric to go by)Rellana's Twin Moons being deceptively good is a GOOD thing. Weirdo out there shit like this should be good, instead of boring garbage like Carian Slicer or whatever retarded, 0-investment Ash of War is currently broken.
>>746888912That's what I mean. You were encouraged to spam blue shit then do blue shit melee.
>>746889168FROM is stupid but the problem is you can't fucking make a game that is designed primarily for PVE also work in a functional PVP environment, it's just not possible and the PVPers are still in denial about this and are extremely vocal about it because after DS1 they got drunk on their own kool-aid that the Souls formula is totally about the "deep" and honorable PVP despite the core gameplay being all about asymmetry.This is why some things like are explicitly designed with PvP in mind like the GS of Damnation while others aren't.>>746889292>They probably won’t nerf it either because for some reason people think it’s still crap.Because it fucking is, you can literally just run away because the activation is fucking slow even at 70 DEX>Oh but if it fires off-Endure alone lets you tank the first hit and then avoid everything else in case you don't know the timing for rolling, any shield with high magic reduction also lets you ignore it, an uncharged Marais weapon art straight up kills the caster during the animation and wins the trade. The only way the spell works is against people who don't know anything about it, which applies to 90% of the tools in the game including something as old and basic as Endure>Inescapable Frenzy on any STRfaggot who think their two handed one shot builds are totally niche and nobody can deal with them.You want actually ridiculously strong spells, look at catch flame, look at any spell chain that can frame trap, nobody cares about Girella's balls because anyone with basic game knowledge knows how to deal with that paper tiger.
>>746886196he got you lmao
before the much needed nerf, rivers of blood was just a bunch of idiots swinging at non existent piñatas
>>746879206Not after the parry buff lmao.Elden Ring is especially dogshit. Invasions are pretty are pretty much zero fun. The odds are stacked so hard against invaders there's no fun in even beating them.
they should remove weapons and melee entirelymagic only
>>746890337>Because it fucking is, you can literally just run away because the activation is fucking slowUm. No it’s not. You literally just turn into two moons. That’s it. Most morons will run away too late.
>>746890791Most morons die to things like bloody slash frametraps, jumping R2s and big pots, are these secretly OP?Most morons get agitated, run out of stamina and then die to repeated running R1s while trying to chug, are running R1s secretly OP?
Comet spam is a lot deadlier when you’re up close. It’s really gay.
>>746861941I kind of wish to shove my dick in-between the moons.
>>746861941
>>746892145Based
>>746887947All of the souls games have their own problems but Elden Ring is just terrible for pvp.
>>746861941>>746892145Literally my reaction whenever this spell is cast
>>746892145It's pretty bullshit that she never got a cutscene.
>>746892393Lol
>>746892393“Booba”*dies*
>>746894451More like *FAPFAPFA-crushed*
>is abysmal dog shit in your path
Wait there's a pvp arena in elden ring now? I need to rev up cheatengine and get in there
>>746893124Why did Rykard hate the albinaurics so much? The grace in the torture house is labeled “Guest Hall”. Creepy…
>>746884789I know he's a blue, but he didn't even partake in ganking. He cleaned that shit red on his own.
>>746895091There is and it's active, but it's less fun than invading. FromSoft PvP is not that good, the fun comes from stupid interactions like >>746895352
>>746884789I can't imagine ever wanting to be a blue when 50% of your summons go like this and the other 50% are the host or invader dying before you do anything
>>746884789Oof. I don’t think they’re recovering well from that blueberry comment.
>>746895483Invasions are pretty much dead now. I tried at level 75, 100 and 135 when they had the tarnished edition patch and got 0 invasions
>>746895678It's the multiplayer system. If you know how to optimize it, it isn't so bad. You have to use Cheat Engine to disable invasion zones.
>>746895678Every fucking subhuman nigger that wants to not play the game just uses Seamless Co-op, popularized even further by SUBHUMAN FUCKING FAGGOT NIGGER youtubers and vtubers (someone should rape Nimi Nightmare to death with a bowie knife, Gaddafi style).
I <3 Albinaurics
When are they going to fix the parries they broke
FUCK the frog people
>>746895678>>746895780seriously? the only way you'll find invasions is by cheating?Seamless Co-op should have fucking consequences to its use, honestly.I hope the next Fromsoft game has fucking Denuvo. That's how much I hate these fucking entitled cocksuckers RUINING games.
>>746898407>>746898865The rebis of man
>>746899384Seamless has invasions and you don't need to cheat to find them in vanilla, it just optimizes Elden Ring's dog shit multiplayer system.
>>746861941Why are you still play this game in the current year? Move on dude
>>746899582Seamless invasions are dogshit because most players using seamless are cowards hiding from invasions anyway, and they're usually terrible. There's no anti cheat either
>>746899652better game hasnt been released
>>746900112NTA but Let It Die: Offline came out a couple days ago and it's better than Elden Ring by far
>>746900252lol, not even close buddy
>>746900484Yeah true when I die I don't respawn with absolutely no consequence, 5 feet from the boss, ready to eat my popcorn while they play out their turn. What kind of game is that hahaYou stupid fucking faggot.
>>746900628Guess that makes the shitty gameplay worth it in your mind
>>746861941Nigga, just walk away.
>>746894779>he le doesn't knowthey're OP right now
Jump good
>>746899797What do you want? An unending stream of players who are about as good as you, play in a way that you approve of, and will continue to play as long as you do? Don't you realize how ridiculous of a demand this is? It takes two to tango. Nobody wants to play with you because you are an insufferable faggot.
>>746900916I do le know, but the base whip is still irredeemably bad. I was a whip, off-hand dagger Chad before the parry changes. Such an insanely annoying build.
>>746901047Base game invasions are fine because you get a mix of plays that know balk and ones that don't, you fucking retardSeamless ones skew the playerbase in an unfavorable way and DONT HAVE ANTI CHEAT you stupid faggot
>>746867518I go by the ultra greatswords and collosal weapon descriptions that state "one has to surpass the human limits to wield these" and they're only around 25.So I consider any stat above 25 to be beyond human. That includes faith and intelligence.If we're RL 100 we're technically a demigod, and at 150 that's godlike.
>>746900985ThisJust jump Holy fucking shit
>>746889427Wait magic is actually kino in PVP now?I remember those breath attacks being really fucking tricky.
>>746868186Anons keep suggesting the extremely niche speedrunner strats and neglect to explain the situational and highly useful utility spells you'll need to explore.Carian Slicer is your magic lightsaber, make sure to grab that. It's true you should shoot for meteorite staff and rock sling, it lasts until you can get a weapon to +15 which isn't until midway/near end game.
>>746901193So you want more opponents who are worse than you?
>>746901729Like 75% of magic is usable in some capacity, it all depends on how you queue up your spells. Some spells are really good as follow-ups to others, and others are true combos with max cast speed. None of the melee spells are bad (Carian spells, catch flame, etc.), and any projectile that either has good tracking or good AoE tends to be very good. The breath spells are good as long as you can scare your opponent or they don't have ranged options of their own.
>>746869971keep up with the program gramps, nu /v/ hates invaders now and will constantly bitch and moan about them
>>746869805I use Rogier's hat + Dryleaf Monk set but you don't get that until the DLC.
>>746885664It's Caelid, that's not exactly hard with torrent
>>746868186Go grab>the spell scroll in Limgrave, which is atop some ruins in southern Limgrave, overlooking the bridge to Weeping Peninsula>the spell scroll at the graveyard at the beginning of Liurnia>the meteorite staff in Caelidand then go give the scrolls to Sellen. That should give you more than enough to get going, and you can just try every spell you find as you unlock it.
>>746880039You can't use based to describe gay pedophilia, that's the opposite of based.
>>746901814No you stupid faggot, that's what seamless faggots are and that's what I'm complaining about. Regular invasions have a better mix of actually competent players so it's not just beating up on retards, but invasions are dead on PC because of seamless
I think Nightreign is the only game I've played where I like it LESS the more I play it because I've learned its inner workings so much that I can see the basic layout of a map and go "oh god fucking damnit, this is a shit seed, fun times are over in this run", pic related, I want to fucking ragequit when I see this shit. I can't imagine how much the people that reach 9999 depths rating must hate everything about the game at this point.
>>746895678>I tried at level 75, 100 and 135Vanilla PC? Anything below 150 is dead on vanilla PC.If you wanna invade on PC I'd recommend seamless (technically it's possible to turn off invasions but it's on by default and the majority of host sissies don't know about it so it's not like you're only invading people that "want" to be invaded ergo gankers)But it's not like vanilla PC is completely dead. I'd recommend invading around 200 on vanilla. My 222 invader gets decent activity there.
>>746862516>>746862934What cheat is happening? It looks like the Bayle incant is being used by the other guy. You can see him holding the communion seal.
>>746902445>200 on vanilla???? the vague concept of "builds" literally doesn't exist at fucking level 220 lmao this is so fucking retardedgod elden ring is a fucking disaster for fromsoft, for souls games, it is such fucking braindead nigger retard normalfaggot aids, so fucking stupid, so insanely fucking stupidI'm cheat genning a 220 level character and just ruining everyone's time at this point, I hate ALL OF YOU
>>746861941did they buff it? it's always been solid, not op
>>746902128I quit a game two days ago because noobs would not follow me to anywhere and we ended up at level 6 at the end of the first night and I’m still being punished and not the host in games so I keep doing the boring regular map instead of Great Hollow even though I paid my two runes to get Great Hollow
>>746900252I'm not buying the toddler toy required to play it so it doesn't exist to me.
ironically I think I ended up liking Midra the most out of the SotE bosses because he actually feels like he makes sense and isn't just the game trying to bullshit me, he's not even that difficult yet I don't consider that a minus because it's really nice presentation
>>746902128i just dont think the looting phase works at allfirst time you play it sure whatever its fun enoughbut after that it just turns into running from point to point for 50 minutes until you can finally get to the bosses. what is even the point of having it be on a timer in a pve game?nothing really changes much per run outside of map variants.
Ugh
>>746904890His soundtrack fits his theme pretty well. It's like unveiling some mad conspiracy page after page.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL2OV7z2q40
>>746905573His theme is awesome and he needed a third phase so fucking bad, or fourth if you want to get pedantic.
>>746904829... huh?it's on Steam, are you a retard?
>>746902128That's the fun of it idgi.>>746905247>what is even the point of having it be on a timer in a pve game?You have a timer to get good loot. I don't get what you don't get about that.
>>746862725Stonetoss is honestly more powerful than any other spell in the game. Comet Azure is dogshit if the enemy moves anywhere. Rocks pretty much always hit and break poise to boot.
I wish we had more bubble sorceries
>>746876704>>746879140ER PvP is so fucking dogshit that it looks like DS3 cheating
give me a build for my next run
>>746908553Dex/Fth
>>746908205>Storm Ruler +47
>>746907780Saem
>>746864686The jellyfish shield is sooo goooood
>>746862473imagine this shit, dodge rolling all day all night long lol
>>746863076hey, it's the talentless dipshit that got his shit pushed in by everyone at /erg/. back to posting cherrypicked webms of you spamming l1 at shitters for internet points, I see.
>>746908205>?GoodsName?
>>746884789Blues all know that they're going to Hell. They don't care.
>>746902943Elden Ring is a 100 hour game with a 50 hour DLC. The game expects that you're going to reach level 200. Rellana's Twin Moons require 72 INT. The Light of Miquella requires 72 FTH. Stop comparing it to Dark Souls that is less than half the length.
>>746902943>the vague concept of "builds" literally doesn't exist at fucking level 220It does though.Some builds require at least level 200 to be functional, because Elden Ring stat softcaps are way higher than any other souls game.The 125 DS3 meta was supposed to be a level were the average player ended up after finishing the entire game + DLC, which is around 200 for Elden Ring.
>>746902943>the vague concept of "builds" literally doesn't exist at fucking level 220[laughs in INT/FAI]
>>746902943Supremely reddit Post. Reddit just fucking decided to make it 125 on the assumption of tradition, not understanding how the soft caps were changed.People told reddit this many times, but the retards kept believing it killed build diversity.It was always meant to be 200.
>>746861967It's fine.
>>746861941>asking for nerfs in a single-player game
pvp is still dogshit compared to god3
>>746879787>"spacing" is a fucking meme especially given how dogshit the netcode is.The problem is not the netcode, the problem is a gameplay. "Spacing" in a game where everyone is firing room sized magical AoE's and mexicans are sprint jumping at you with powerstanced collossals. The netcode is fine, the gameplay is dog shit, and I'm not even the elden dog shit ring guy
>>746895678coop seems decently active at low level and 70+, it might a problem with too many invaders. The invasion cooldown is too long
>>746895678>tried invading at 75, 100 and 135 after the patch that added two new starting classes, meaning everyone is playing at Limgrave levelslol
>>746861941Hey Rellana, NICE BUTT
I miss DS1 PVP. Those undead burg fight clubs XBL and Forest shit was fun. NU-Fromsoft PVP from DS3 onwards is gay as fuck
>>746861941no
