>>746880505
its the perfect balance between battlefield and milsim. it doesn't have a ridiculous amount of content. its a lot like squad except its fun. its fairly polished and i haven't noticed any bugs

>>746880505
Absolutely fuck no. Playing the playtest right now and it's genuinely garbage. Awful gunplay and overall badly made with poorly executed ideas.

>drive apc to tower
>afk the whole game
>get $100k
it's that easy to get started

last beta was working with Proton, but it seems like this beta isn't working on linux. I'm glad I didn't preorder, they say the game will have linux support but I don't trust chinks.

>>746881243
only problem i've had is the crashing and the mouse sensitivity. if i use high dpi i can't play old games. if i use low dpi i can play this game.

>>746883645
They aren't Chinese. Both the developer and publisher are based in the UK. The game is complete shit though, definitely not defending it.

i still dont believe inventory management belongs in a multiplayer fps

>>746884106
Why not?

>>746884106
i think it should exist but only if there's actually interesting shit you can do with it, e.g. a game with faction-locked equipment and you can steal shit off dead enemies and hoard it for yourself, like planetside 1
inventory tetris for the sake of it does nothing but slow down newer players trying to sort their shit and make the gamerdads angry that billy_joel99 took 0.2 seconds too long at spawn

>>746884179
>make the gamerdads angry that billy_joel99 took 0.2 seconds too long at spawn
Gonna be the opposite
COME ON UNC HURRY UP

>>746880505
>it's yet another sim-lite modern military FPS in early access

>Wardogs (2026)
>Escape from Tarkov (2025)
>Gray Zone Warfare (2024)
>Arena Breakout: Infinite (2024)
>Bodycam (2024)Delta Force (2024)
>Incursion: Red River (2024)
>Ready or Not (2023)
>Six Days in Fallujah (2023)
>Tarkov: Arena (2023)
>Operation: Harsh Doorstop (2023)
>Ghosts of Tabor (2023)
>Arma Reforger (2022)
>Call of Duty: Warzone - DMZ Mode (2022)
>Marauders (2022)
>World War 3 (2022)
>Squad (2020)
>Zero Hour (2020)
>Deadside (2020)
>Hell Let Loose (2019)
>Insurgency: Sandstorm (2018)
>Ground Branch (Early Access)

I have online FPS fatigue.

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>>746880505
It's impossible to try and be logi player in this
literally nobody does anything else than run mindlessly to yellow circle and die over and over again.

I even dropped tier 3 hammers and a FOB for these niggers and they STILL didn't manage to do anything. In the end I build 3 mortar pits for them to try and bait someone into trying it but none ever did.

>>746884345
sorry im too busy sniping fools and spotting the whole map.

>>746880505
It has the worst gunplay I've ever experienced in any game like it. It's unplayable trash.

>>746884149
it kills pacing to do something only slightly related to fps gameplay. taking the player out of their character to a menu hurts immersion. hot swapping with weapons on the ground was a good system. there is minimal benefit to dragging to player to another screen to play a management minigame where any gameplay benefit could have been designed in a way to not require an inventory.

>>746884309
what's the alternative

>>746884345
Don't try and play on EU servers those retards are too poisoned by cod or something. Eat the ping and play on NA

>>746884459
Sounds like casual shit ngl

>>746884345
that shit is for nerds
this is a gun game

>>746884485
How did you know I was Central Europe?

I'd love to play a game like this but 40 dollars is a bit too much for me and my strategy of waiting for a multiplayer game to go on sale almost always ends up with said multiplayer game losing all its players and ending up ded.

>>746884480
Wrong question. The right questions are "Do we really need over 2 dozen projects doing the EXACT SAME THING but slightly different?" and "Is our target audience big enough to support YET ANOTHER ETERNAL EARLY ACCESS LIVE SERVICE game?"

>>746884652
the price is going up after the next major patch and again at 1.0

>>746884660
>Do we really need over 2 dozen projects doing the EXACT SAME THING but slightly different?
yes, variety is always good. you don't have to play all of them

>>746884790
>yes, variety is always good.
But there is none. Not one of those games even offers a third person perspective, which would be the easiest way to stand out from the crowd.

>>746884976
>not one of these hookers offers chlamydia!

>>746884976
a list of FPS shouldnt include third person

maybe im jaded and getting old but this just looks like every other fps mil-sim shooter thats come out since like 2020 or whatever, this game is just arma king of the hill theres nothing new or interesting ever coming out

>>746884976
>Not one of those games even offers a third person perspective
and that is good

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>>746884790
>you don't have to play all of them
Apparently nobody is.

You are not gonna believe this but A LOT of people have never played KotH arma.
Specially since this one is more streamlined and easier to pick up.
In the sea of extraction shooters, BF and CODslop this one managed to stand out with the focus on autism logistics.

>>746884552
I'm an EU fag and I can tell you that
>we don't use prox chat, unless it's to shit talk
>we don't build fobs. And if we do, they're shit and become death traps for the inevitable APC that parks there. And then we abandon them.
>we will camp out in a bush with a sniper. Why shouldn't we? easiest money ever.
>buying parachutes? Absolutley never. I will complain when we then drop out of the chopper because we didn't trust the pilot, only for the bird to then gently drop next to my dead body
>there is only 2 guns and it's the AK and the mosin

>>746886682
> the focus on autism logistics
except not really
the second an FOB starts getting shelled, it's done. farrying supplies to a FOB is easy money but making sure the retards down there use it? Never ever happening

>>746880505
bump. thinking about getting it, not sure how much ill get out of the game at 33 bucks for a key as a solo.

>>746888831
It's not very good. Strong recommend that you pre-order and try out the beta if you didn't get an invite to see for yourself. Beta play time doesn't count against the 2 hour refund limit for the full game. I'm glad I got to try it before buying because I'm definitely not going to now.

>>746888831
if you play solo, you'd better be a logiwhore or a camping spotter. Otherwise, zero fun to be had with randos except for the occasional proximity bant. Having no roles means that squads don't really matter.

>>746889131
is it all trannycord gangs? im not too autistic for squad voip, wondering how used it is though.

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>>746884345
niggas like you be tryin' anything to make some $$ in this game other than POINTING YOUR FUCKING GUN AT THE ENEMY AND FIRING. You CANNOT WIN ignoring the yellow circle and playing your faggot builder mini-game. Get the fuck out of tower, stop being so fucking useless, rez somewbody and run at the yellow circle. Fucking christ what is wrong with you subhumans? Scared you'll lose a kit? Risk averse in a casual fuckin' shooter that lets you get that money back in 20seconds?

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>kernel level anti cheat

>>746889357
VOIP hasn't been working at all in matches I've been in. Can't hear anyone talking even when it shows they are. A lot of people asking in text chat if people can hear them. But like he said, squads are non-existant so if you're playing solo get used to dying or just sitting in towers trying to defend. Most useful I've felt is building defenses at the FOB's and sniping on my own

>>746889403
you should show more respect to those who make the war possible in the first place...

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>>746884179
The grace period before the round starts we should be allowed to buy our loadouts. I take 3 seconds too long shopping and some taxi faggot starts honking at me.

>>746889357
It's not like Battlefield/Hell Let Loose/Squad. There aren't squads. You can't spawn on other players. Everyone not building or doing logistics shit is usually lonewolfing or roving the map as a generic deathball of half your team. The only way to really do any proper teamwork is with some friends. The game bafflingly promotes an "every man for himself" mentality at the same time as requiring teamwork to actually control the map. It's frankly a mess of ideas that doesn't work that well in my opinion. Too many contradictory mechanics. Also, the first few matches at least are going to be brutally unfun and boring because almost every useful piece of equipment for things like support and medic are locked behind multiple level gates.

Im gunna play it all day on the 10th

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We just watched 83 crash and burn last month, what's going to be any different about this one

>>746889991
Wardogs follows the ape together strong mentality. If I go alone i'll lose my expensive loadout. If I play with my teammates we can back each other up and protect our investments. Its like a libertarian social experiment.

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>>746889737
nigga how are you helping me to parachute into the zone and kill people? You 'aint. You are fucking useless sitting at a tower while the team loses.

>>746890175
Good luck with that. Most players don't revive and you can loot teammates for their stuff while they are laying there waiting to be rezzed. Most people would rather have your ammo or better gear. It's badly designed.

Try to shoot people, 5 hit sounds and they don't die. Try to go literally anywhere on the map and get raped by sniperniggers. Play base builder and have no logi, no one uses your weapons, or no one wants to help set up fob leaving you alone to deal with enemies. Play logi and fall asleep. Play air and get fucked by implementation that makes the vehicles uncontrollable.

>>746889578
>Most useful I've felt is building defenses at the FOB's and sniping on my own
so you felt the most usefull while being completely fucking useless, great. Can't win by defending in a TERRITORY CONTROL MODE you fucking spastic

>>746890294
Must not be playing with humans. My condolences. Ive only been robbed once and we both ended up swapping guns back when I asked because we both had the wrong ammo.

>>746890343
you're an actual nigger

>>746890252
Freedom is indispensable
Levelheadedness must prevail

>>746888831
I'm having a blast solo. Got 48 hours last beta weekend. Stick with the team if you want run and gun action or be the annoying cunt who sneak around planting bombs and c4 while fucking with fob builders. Having binoculars for spotting works really well when doing sneaky shit. Mortars on your team will love you for giving them the distance to your spotted targets. I mostly find myself trucking and building a solo fob.

>>746889578
The fix for voip is to disable voice chat and save changes. Then enable voice chat and save changes. Mention this in chat every now and then until people get it. Last beta the voip rarely got broken so I guess it's a player count thing.

>>746890440
get on the prio zone you scared little bitch

I've seen a little bit of this, it reminds me of MAG. Anyone that play MAG played this?

>>746880505
Are there jets?

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>>746890294
I spawn in with nothing, rob my dead teammate (don't revive him) then run off and die in an irrecoverable position. rinse/repeat

>>746890634
>48 hours in a small window beta for a game that doesnt officially release until the 10th
Jesus christ nigga

>>746890689
No. Just transport helicopters and the obnoxious little bird that the same scumbags who ruin Battlefield with it are gravitating towards.

>>746890759
Unsurprising. At least half the people in any given match are doing exactly that.

>>746890294
Only enemies have stolen my loot in 59 hours of playtime. Never had a problem with nearby teammates ignoring me when I am downed. Reviving is very good cash and medic xp. With defibs you'll print money.

>>746890686
I don't remember much about how MAG felt to play because it's been such a long time, but the three team thing is about the only similarity I think.

>>746890767
Alpha and last beta you double nigger.

>>746890759
>Russian flag
>Subhuman behavior
Many such cases

>>746890970
Ah so there's no leadership classes with support powers like air strikes? That's the main thing MAG had that these games like this are missing.

>>746890830
I like going against little cucks in bf6 because it's easy to rpg them out of existence
But no jet no buy

>>746890989
No lifing a beta is sad. Doubly sad when it's a game as objectively fucking bad as this lmao.

>>746891107
I've seen what seems to be strafing runs, but I have no idea how you get them (my guess is maybe related to the recon unlock tree). There are no squad leader or commander roles.

>>746891107
there are no classes or 'powers', this game is very grounded. you can mortar strike an enemy base but you would need to build mortars and have people man them.

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>>746880505
It's trash, and I'm genuonely glad I played the beta before throwing my money away.
>Everything costs money, which isn't a big problem in itself for items you buy yo actually use, but unlocking anything requires an absurd ammount of money, like 10k USD for a crappy chinese drill or 50k for a school backpack
>Prices are also all over the place, a two-seater quad costs 450 USD but a single, single-use roll of sterile tissue that restores 30% of your health is 200 USD
>Full progression and money reset every few months, meaning that if you have a job or aren't a sweaty virgin neckbeard checking the latest youtube meta tricks you'll get steamrolled by autists snowballing money and unlocks
>"But fret not, fellow money-haver, once 1.0 releases, we can start selling unlocks, battlepasses, and money/XP boosts to busy and responsible people just like you!" as explicitly stated by the devs and publisher.

>>746891773
I like the unlock system requiring a lot of money, it lets you be able to specialize more. I can focus on being a pilot and unlock better stuff for that rather than waste money on guns, etc.

I wish everyone started every match with 10k though. Its not really a problem in the beta but once the game launches I have no idea how the games will play out when everyone can spawn tanks/arty en masse.

>>746891773
The money and gold bar system is the biggest red flag I've ever seen in any game period. I can tell it's going to be greedier and scummier than even GTA/RDR Online. Also, agreed about bizarre prices. The shitty starter single shot sniper rifle that can't kill anything costs $1100 but a decent assault rifle costs $500. And then it costs $25,000 to unlock the SKS or a backpack. The devs have said progression and money rates are going to be slower for the full game too so I dread to see how awful it really is

>>746891773
The price of bandages really tilts me. You can easily spend more money on Bandaids than the entire rest of your kit combined.

any game with a resource/currency, i just hoard it and refuse to use it. consumables too. this game is not for me.

It's so piss easy to make money if you play a full match and do a little bit of logistic like dropping a box with ammo and meds on the fob and hen fuck off to shoot people.
After a few games you end up with like 150k and you can afford most stuff easily.

Maybe try playing the game instead of joining a match, get the shitty starter plastic rifle, fail to kill anything because you are just bumrushing points and expecting to do epic flick kills.

>>746892424
You can't hoard anything really. The equipment you've unlocked in your account you still have to buy during matches. The only thing that's persistent is money and overall unlocks in the vendor.

>>746892473
Not too late to delete this embarassing post you retarded shill.

>Get shot in the back simulator 2026
>2/3 of your team will just sit in the tower all game
it sucks

>Price for a full not dogshit infantry kit is basically = to a tank
Yeah that makes sense

>>746892658
Sitting in the towers is the only way to win really. It's a horribly designed game mode at its core.

>>746892976
the game advertises itself as all out warfare but it's really just all out sniping while 5 dudes per team try to fight for the zone at most

>>746893370
>builds a drill at my tower so now the zone comes to my minecraft castle (2 block thick walls, no doors)
heh, nothing personel.

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>>746880505
>be me
>be Bluepants
>hiding in a bush spotting Greenback FOB with my binos
>they started pulling hotzone
>my team didn't do shit to contest it
>Redcoats started showing up in force
>REAL force
>RPG teams blasting supply vics
>sappers with c4 breaching walls
>mortars were raining down nonstop
>Bluepants are struggling but still holding up thanks to two CWIS shooting at point blank
>they might actually make it
>A fucking Red tank rolled up
>Made short work of the two CWIS
>Blasted front gates open
>Murdered everything inside
>Mfw I watched the whole thing
>Mfw none of my team ever showed up
>Mfw I got 20k in spotting assists because somehow you don't even need your teammates to do the killing to get the assist bonus

Game is good. It's not perfect but I dare you to name a better tactical shooter that was this good when first launched into Early Access

>join blue guys
>expect New Conglomerate
>get Nork Korea
uninstalled

>>746894461
Squad, Hell Let Loose, etc

Any game is better than this. The game mode is trash and the shooting feels terrible. Keep in mind your anecdote about how """fun""" the game is is about you hiding in a bush watching other people who no lifed to unlock tanks killing everyone else. That's just lame.

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>>746880505
I'm gonna do a trump impression in VC
I'm gonna tax everyone as much as they tax me
I'm gonna build the most beautiful star fortress FOBs you've ever seen, you're gonna be so proud
Completely drone proof, believe me

>>746884976
>multiplayer FPS
>FIRST PERSON SHOOTER
>asks for tps
retard

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This game randomly mutes my PCs audio and I haven't found a fix

>>746890689
the best you will see in this game is a A10 warthog that appears randomly to BRRRRRRRRT something randomly in the map (i cant even tell if its hitting something or its just an animated map prop for "immersion"), but honestly? jets would probably be OP as fuck in this game, so thank god they aren't in, skilled heli pilots are already cancer if your team is too retarded and slow to build bases with AA around the map to shot them down

>>746894461
that's just the average match for me, blueniggas always do nothing interesting while the rest of the match is all about green vs red

>>746896507
Green and red always win because their spawns are closer to the circle than blue, and the terrain is more advantageous on their edges of it as well. It's stupid, but blue essentially is permanently cucked by the map design for some odd reason.

>>746886848
I started playing last night and even with a tutorial instill don't get the point of the fob system.

>>746896630
that really depends of the map and how coordinated the people in each team are, i did win a few games on blue and also lost to them

>>746896687
It's just to build defenses on the capture point squares. And to give an excuse for making you grind building sandbags to unlock RPG's and LMG's

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Its a fun game. I think it strikes a really solid balance between something arcadey like battlefield and mil-sim like tarkov/arma. The KOTH aspect encourages action, though I feel like some balance changes are needed because ive won a few games simply because the hotzone just sat over a built up fob and the enemy couldnt do shit to it, but maybe tanks/artillery being a bigger force later on will possibly change this. It's hard to say after just 1 day.

Personally I wonder if the game would be better with 2x or even 3x the amount of people per server to get a pseudo-planetside going.

>>746897275
>The KOTH aspect encourages action
the fact that drilling exists means it literally doesn't
In 6 hours I have not seen a meaningful attack on any FOB installed at a tower once

>>746897275
>I feel like some balance changes are needed because ive won a few games simply because the hotzone just sat over a built up fob and the enemy couldnt do shit to it

That's intentional. Those drill icons inside the squares you capture make the objective circle move to and stay over one of your team's points when the drill is active (I have no clue how you activate that).

it feels like the game design trips over its own dick too much and the game mode ends up really boring or annoying as a result

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>>746897339
Ive only played for 6 hours as well and we're only starting to see tanks rolling out today. Trying to definitively declare that x/y is or isnt happening is just dumb because not all of the tools are available.

I will say that I have seen people attack an FOB installed at a tower, so my experience is not like yours at all. Actually, people are really chill at their FOB so you can pretty much do your own type of solid snake/big boss RP session and take out a whole FOB by yourself if youre good/lucky enough, which ive seen happen on and had it happen to me.

But, my whole point is that personally I think the game is worth picking up and playing on release.

>reddit spacing
shill alert

>>746880505
I've got access to the playtest currently active, but the damn anticheat fails to install on me loonix machine, does someone know a fix for that or do I have to wait for the next playtest for it to get fixed again?

>>746897275
>The KOTH aspect encourages action
the hotzone is too small and too fast, chasing that means running into a sniperfaggot line of sight sooner or later.
The actual money-system encourages camping and sitting in your fob ya retard

>starting guns suck fucking donkey balls
>any armor makes a headshot with the first recon rifle not a one shot kill

>>746898465
There is no next playtest, the game releases in less than a week.

>>746898748
Even without a helmet, headshots aren't a one hit kill. The gunplay and TTK are dogshit.

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>>746898465
linus are not working with this beta, but the devs said that after the 10th larpers can play

>>746880505
I tried it for 30 min and seems fun, but it's not for me(miclet)
Aiming feels too slow even with the slider at 2.0, but i guess that's how it is in these games?

>>746898748
The starter sniper is fine, you just have to understand that you wont get a 1hko even with a headshot no matter what gun youre using. Your primary job as a sniper is actually to be using your binoculars and spotting niggas though.

>>746899097
>>746898965
Sorry, not dropping 40€ on a game I can't try.

The gunplay and movement are so fucking bad. It reminds me of that old Heroes and Generals ww2 game. It feels like a game made 15 years ago.

>>746899650
The graphics look 15 years old too.

Everything about this game encourages you to just post up in a bush and camp. Literally the opposite end of the dogshit FPS spectrum from the aim assist movement crack games

>>746880505
It's only going to be playable on release or after a wipe.
The entire game is based around not having access to literally everything but it's too easy to make money because once you buy the better stuff it makes more money so you can always buy the better stuff. Like I never saw a tank die. They just make money. Whats the solution to a tank if you're a newish player? There is none. You just die and lose your money while they get money. So many things like that.

>>746880505
the premise is nice but the game feels very sluggish and its pretty ugly
feels like im playing at 30fps when the game is running at 100+

>>746880505
I already refunded the game. Feels like eurojank. Stop comparing this game to Planetside 2 and MAG. That is insulting to those games.

>>746899910
yeah this is also what i fear, im really enjoying it atm with how it is, ive played 19 hours but i worry for the future of the game. I have read that wipes will be monthly but regardless its not perfect.

i did find that even the free gun can pack some whollop tho so if you play your cards right after release im sure it will be fine
>im 27 and i find most modern shooters too fast where as this for me feels like og pubg when i was 18

>>746899910
The real issue is that playing as normal infantry is literally just "Die from every angle lol" simulator despite the fact that the only role that's actually capable of breaching into these megastructure FOBs requires you to be infantry
fucking retarded ass design

>>746899910
Tanks never die because you have to be support level 10 just to unlock the RPG, which isn't very strong against them to begin with. Most people haven't gotten it yet. Let along hit the level to unlock a tank themselves. Progression is horribly structured in this.

>>746900524
it's not that they dont have it it's that everyone with support leveled just plays Minecraft and never leaves their tower because infantry sucks

>first game
>quickly realize the beginner assault rifles are dogshit
>recoil is horrible and most engagements are long-distance, so you have to single shot
>you begin the game with iron sights and have to fuck around a few hours just to get any sort of sight

lmao another case of secretly paid streamer hype

>>746881243
why does it have bullet loading? seems kinda random. not even arma has that. (watch arma 4 have it)

The tutorial for the beta test was bugged. It felt like a janky pile of shit.

Also - it's a paid multiplayer FPS that isn't CoD. Dead on arrival.

It's already DOA. Even outside the shit gameplay, the grind, the nonsensically large and samey maps, etc, the trannies cheerleading for this game are already dismissing every complaint as coming from call of duty zoomers. It's going to be the devs and their tiny playerbase of dickriders until the end.

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>american keeps leaving the door open
>dies 5 seconds later and does it again for 12 more deaths
>he keeps letting in people into the fob
Why is this so common with americans? We gave them white culture... for what? That they leave their house doors unlocked and wear shoes indoors like animals? Don't ever come to EU servers again

>>746901281
yeah I noticed that the toxic positivity for this game is legit cult level

>>746901281
chuds won, give it up trancel
bf6 will never be this good lol
literally better than bf6, squad, arma reforger and cod combined

>>746901281
The devs have fostered and encouraged a very delusional cult of discord cucks and troons somehow. These zealous sycophants are beyond delusional about this pile of garbage. I genuinely have no idea how or why this happened, the dev's track record as a company is abysmal and barely a step above legit scam grifting.

How many mines am I allowed to place before they start disappearing. This is the only thing effecting my decision to buy or not buy.

>>746901315
coming to EU servers just for this

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>>746894461
nutting personnel

>>746901281
I got banned from their Steam forum months ago after an earlier playtest for posting my constructive criticisms and feedback because it whipped their retarded tranny drones who hadn't even played the game yet into a seething frenzy and they reported me en masse. It's baffling how obsessed some people have become with blindly defending this garbage game of all things.

>>746900073
Nothing about the game feels janky. It has better movement and controls that were definitely made for keyboard and mouse. I'm sorry you console cucks aren't getting player controls that make you feel like you're playing a tank that has to gain momentum because 10 years of controllers indoctrinated you into drooling retards who can only push forward on the left stick.

>>746901625
You are retarded. Just look at vaulting.
>Ok you can vault this wall just fine!
>Oh, but THIS wall you need to look at the edge first, THEN vault!
>This one you can't vault at all despite looking like all the others!

Fucking dogshit

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>>746901615
lmao what a bitch

>>746901281
They gathered all the retards who fancy themselves too smart for Call of Duty but are too stupid to play ARMA

>>746902065
In reality, anyone hating on COD is just bad at fps.

I refunded the game. I want to like it but I'm just fucking terrible at it.

>jump out of helicopter and parachute down just to get killed in the air
>jump out of helicopter and parachute down, landed just to get sniped
>got rezzed then auto sniped right away without taking a step
>got in a helicopter and the pilot crashes
Died 7 times before seeing a single enemy.

>finally found a good camping spot with the starting sniper that has 1 bullet
>see about 7 enemies total, snipe 5 of them but kill 0 because again, only 1 bullet
>one random guy just runs up and autos me
This type of game just isn't for me, and I really wanted to like it.

I think I played one game out of 15 where one team didn't just completely roll the game over.

>>746902208
Don't feel bad, the gunplay is just dogshit and the structure and balance of progression is awful. This is by far my favorite genre/type of shooter and I think this game sucks. They managed to make a 100 player game feel like a boring ghost town.

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one guy ITT is serously fucking assmad about this game
and for that reason, the game gets my support

>>746902495
i think whats going on there is hes a zoomer that isn't good enough for cod. i have seen many of this genre. they come into the slower paced / tactical games and relentlessly bitch and moan

>>746902208
That sniper sucks bro, theres a reason why everyone just sits on a hill with binoculars and spots shit, its easy money and it gives recon exp so you can buy the 900000 times better SKS

>>746884660
>Wrong question
No it's the right question, now answer it

Are people actually hitting things with the minigun heli? I'm not exactly a 800 hour bf4 little bird pilot but I get like one kill every 5 minutes if I'm lucky, and I'm pretty sure I have never ever been killed by a pilot myself between both playtests. Also you get no exp at all because the game can't really score you harassing people unless it leads to an assist.

>>746903257
I've only been killed by one pilot so far, and it was because he was spamming rockets at our FOB when I just so happened to be running in the open.

>>746901625
>gaslighting this dogshit shooter pretending it has good movement
You aren't going to win this one you shill retard. Once the FOMO runs out and it will sooner than later, everyone is going to see this for what it is. Eurojank dogshit that has nothing good about it. I won't buy into your streamerslop eurojank.

>buy kit
>get in helicopter
>pilot flies directly into the ground
>money stolen

>>746890294
>gypsy simulator

>>746901615
>>746901786
did bro really think that no one would find his leddit account???

How are the autism forts in this? I heard you can play the attack and defend on this well when bob the builder starts pitching his towers up three walls thick.

>>746904009
Aids
>Sniper tower watching every angle
>Somehow manage to sneak my way in
>Blow up the gate
>Another gate behind it
>Blow that up too
>A door behind it
>Blow that up too
>Another door behind it
>Out of c4
>Also there were 2 more doors behind that and this is before im even inside the tower where the objective is

>>746880505
quit after the tutorial which was shit
game feels dated after playing bodycam

>>746904357
It feels dated compared to any fps from the decade. BF6, Reforger, Squad, and Hell Let Loose mog the hell out of this slop.

>>746881243
>its a lot like squad except its fun.
Laughed.

tried the beta last time, the shooting kind of sucks, but everything else is fun. I had a lot of fun just spotting stuff. it was really chill. thought about some builds I wanted to try when the beta was down. forgot about the smoke grenades. milsim fpses always have bad shooting so I was skeptical when I got into the beta and did the training area and realized it was milsim, but found it fun. casual mechanics with milsim aiming. strange, but fun.

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yk I realised why bodyarmor is trash in (vanilla) Reforger, it's frustrating landing 3+ shots at close range and the enemy walking away like a zombie
rifle rounds should at least cripple enemies

>>746890107
These fags can actually market a game
Also
>last month
It crashed and burned in April

>>746890107
'83 was 4 months ago. And might be the biggest flop of all time. Certainly this year.

So how does Reforger(one of the most successful milsims ever made) get like 3000 players while this one got 160k

>>746880505
the inventory shit is garbage, also looks like worse than a PS3 game and runs like shit for some reason

>>746880505
discount battlefield

another garbage game my friends are gonna make me play for less than a week like hell let loose vietnam, I swear people just play whatever the big twitch streamers are doing rinse and repeat. I miss when games were playable for months, even years. its just next flavor of the month ad nauseum.

>>746905748
Relentless shilling and marketing. The devs had their discord cult spamming it everywhere for months, and the devs have bribed a bunch of big streamers and youtubers into playing it and covering it.

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>>746906497
>>>746905352
sounds like your the problem since u lack the ability to say no to friends.


I dont care what streamers say nor do i have friends that are making me buy this game i got into the playtest and after playing it for last 4 hrs. Its an alright game. It has more battlefield vibes than battlefield 6 which feels more like wannabe cod with its gay as fuck redsec and small ass maps. The only thing that i really dislike so far is the towers are kinda boring. rather have apartment complex to fight over instead of generic towers.

Shooting is alright.
Audio is good.

And to all the people saying LE GRIND GAME. bro u have to be absolute dog shit 5 yr old mentally to need to GRIND this game. Money is so fucking easy to get. You can just grab binocs for 75 $ and earn over 10k just spotting enemy. You can never be broke in this game unless you try your hardest to be broke.

The base building was fun. and did not feel too difficult to do.

Anyone with the ability to not talk in nigger internet ebonics will enjoy this game if they want to get on and play something like battlefield without the gay ass COD / titanfall wannabe movement that BF 6 has.

>>746904209
when I go raiding I always carry 6 c4, really I should be carrying more but I'd seethe too hard about dying if my kit was worth more.
Most people suck asscheeks at building so theres usually a way to just hop over walls, doubly so if its not their main external wall.

>>746905748
ARMA has a community that is dog awful to be around for a normal human

>>746880505
doesn't work on linux so it's garbage

>>746906672
>Shooting is alright
>audio is good

Neither of these statements apply to Wardogs in any way. The shooting is dogshit and the audio quality is actually fucking horrendous.

>>746905748
this one will prob be down to that level by the end of the year,

>>746906791
heard you the first time lil bro

>>746903325
Figures, I might as well wait until the release, I'm not playing taxis and air trucker simulator just to unlock rockets and then lose it after the playtest

>>746906724
Whaat kind of cope is this? Reforger(Vanilla) has one if the most casual and laid back playerbase in multiplayer video games. The Wardogs playerbase is insufferable 30+ yo cunts whose entire personality is "Yeah, I'm an OG FPS GAMER who used to play CoD/Battlefield back in the days when it was good, KIDS THESE DAYS who grew up with SBMM won't be able to handle GROUNDED games like we did" and basically worship Wardogs and US marine veterans

>>746904357
Bodycam is literally still a tech demo after all this time. The new update is cool but the content is still just really basic arcade FPS game modes that clash with the autistic realism focus, it should be tense and tactical but everyone currently just shift + ws because every mode except versus is a generic cod instant respawn mode lol

>>746907163
Idk why you lied in the first sentence but I stopped reading there.

>>746906672
I haven't had this much with a videogame in years. It's apparant the game is not for everyone, just like the devs said. When the game inevitably settles after season 1 and streamer fomo retards leave because "muh wipe grind" it'll be comfy for the rest of us.

>>746900776
It's trying to be battlefield/squad/tarkov/rust. That's from tarkov

>>746901472
I mean, he's wrong and you're retarded

>>746905748
Because this isn't a real milsim?

>>746907198
The Reforger tutorial starts with a a crying guy in a batroom getting hazed for throwing up in a bathroom
Wardogs tutorial starts with le epic SUPER SERIOUS british PMC man prepping you for a TOP SEKRET MISSION
That really tells the difference in mentality between these two

>>746907179
still better than any fps currently out

>>746891352
those jets flying overhead going BBBRRAAAP are actually set dressing and do nothing at all. Cool game.. faking combat lol

>>746907517
Seriously? I legitimately thought it was people calling in strafing runs. That's so fucking lame.

>>746907508
I respect your opinion but there is no way the novelty of that game doesn't wear off after 10 hours or less in its current state. I already dropped it because the gunfights are cool but there's not much else happening, and I don't care to do their gay artificial grind where you have to win 10 matches to buy a single gun (like wardogs actually LOL)

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>>746892976
actually you CANNOT WIN if you don't contest the hotzone and sit in the tower all game you fucking spastic retard with a learning disability. You might call the drill one time and the zone will move anyway. The team that wins is the one that successfull contests the zone.

This game is filled with fucking faggots that are so averse to risk they sit on towers all games instead of shooting people in a KOTH FPS game. I'm refunding. It's normie goyslop with bob-the-builder mechanics for spergs

>>746894461
>I sat in a bush and watched
cool story, imagine actually participating lol

>>746907628
Oh yeah and I actually WOULD play actively if they had a bomb defusal mode. But they dont. The only limited lives mode is gay hide and seek where everyone hides and wastes your time. I think it's in the 2v2 mode but literally why would you lock it to that player count??

>>746907628
I really hope they expand upon it as well and yeah I agree it loses it's touch after a while.
if no other new fps are offering the same level of care that got then it's hard to take it seriously now

>>746898465
they changed anti-cheat and devs can't do anything about it so no linux support at release. I refunded.

>>746907783
I know the devs were like a 19 - 20 year old duo and now they have an actual team. I hope they can deliver some content now where you can actually larp tactical situations and not just play call of duty but realistic.

>>746907668
Not true at all. You have to control the squares to control the circle. At any rate, kys shill.

>>746907558
yes it tricked me (and everyone else) too, don't worry Anon it's not your fault assuming the game had some kind of depth

>>746907936
No you don't. Whichever team has the most people inside the circle earns points and the hotzone earns x2 points. So whoever controls the hot zone wins in effect. That is the entire point of the drills (to control where it goes). If your team just ignores the towers and fights over the HZ you will win every time because the other teams are busy sitting around with their thumbs up their own asses 'guarding' towers with nothing inside them.

>>746908152
That's incredibly soulless. This game really is half-assed garbage, damn.

>>746908152
grim

>check tower
>4 out of 5 digits revealed
>become hackerman
>guess the missing one
>get it on first try

Didn't matter though as my team was spread out all over in the circle so we didn't get any points for the whole drill duration.

>>746907668
Idk how it works but I was in a game with a fob where the hotzone kept coming straight back to it every 5 minutes which won us the game cuz we were set up in this two tower building place which was really easy to defend

Weird that retractable ladders don't seem to exist in this universe
bases would be much easier to infiltrate if we had them, instead they're making us navigate whatever schizophrenic maze the engis planned up that game

Tower fobs aren’t the play it’s mortar apartment fobs

>>746908341
How does one find the codes ?

>>746908434
Pipebombs and c4. Retards are still basing with hesco walls instead of bremen. You don't have to blast through gates and doors if only hesco walls are in the way.

>>746908434
I fucking wish BF6 was the core for this game. If you could buy stuff like the deploy beacon and assault ladder it would be so much better.

>>746908575
A digit is revealed when a tower is captured. Check map every now and then and see if your team has all towers or only missing one. You just guess 0-9 for last missing code. The tower you input the code is where the hotzone gets pulled into so obviously having many players nearby helps. I tried announcing but maybe you get better luck than I had.

>>746908515
Nah you’re way too exposed. Maybe if it was the highest point on the map.

>>746908515
The stadium is the place to be. You park your APV there and your team has easy access to the combat zone. If you can get one of those anti air brrrrrrr machine guns then you control the skies.

>>746908712
You can build mortars on top of bunkers btw

Man you can REALLY feel when you have a retard idiot dipshit team. Having no FOB for 3/4th of the game while both other teams do is horrific.

This game will last for a week or two until streamers start playing the next trash reskin of an old game. I refunded

Solo is unbearable but amazing with a squad

>>746905748
It's literally free right now and anyone who clicked the button got in

I enjoy building autism forts that no one on my team uses.
I'm playing Minecraft, I don't understand the mechanics, I don't care who wins, and I have infinite money.
I like this game.

What's the most resource heavy graphics settings worth turning down for performance? I have everything on medium except textures.

>>746910190
Texture streaming and reflections. Possibly shadows. I had to turn those three to medium with everything else maxed to get it to stop crashing.

>>746910190
Shadows you dumbass zoomer

>>746880505
can you solo in this game?
im too autistic to be a voicefag

Another game wear fags with snipers can beam you from like 5 miles away even if you're in knee deep grass

No Linux support = no buy

>>746910305
You say this like UE5 games follow typical performance scaling patterns

These are my demands if they want me to play

Tunnel digging

More kinds of mines.

Infantry level FPV drones

Smoke and Lethal Gas rounds for the mortars and other artillery.

Night maps with the obvious equipment you'll need for that. (night vision, thermals, flashlights, illumination rounds for atry)

Water map.

Flamethrower

Climbing rope of some kind, repelling equipment or battlebit style grappling hook launchers.

I bet I can think of others but this is what I want so far.

Another fps game streamers play and that’s why /v/ has routinely threads on it

>>746910721
it seems like a terrible streamer game, trying to EPIC FRAG VID people is a waste of everyones time
and youre just gonna get sniped and mortared all game

>>746911049
The smart streamers will do "I will NEVER shoot a gun Truck Driving Only" gimmicks and have fun.

Bulkhead are weird ass devs who have managed to obtain a cult fanbase already with cheap car salesman tactics of “we are fellow gamers”

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>>746909884
i'm going to destroy your autism fort from the other side of the map using my artillery tank

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>really want to unlock the armored jeep and car with mounted gun
>and the tank of course
>but don't want to waste hours of my life driving one fucking crate at a time until i unlock the truck

>>746911452
getting the truck isn't that hard, or at least it wasn't on the beta, get a pickup so you can carry supplies and troops at the same time

>>746911452
Running logi was fun until cunts start building shit in the way of the dropoff. Any spook watching from the bushes could blow the lot up with how slow these deliveries are.

>>746911263
Which is ironic considering all they are is grifter faggots who have tried multiple pump and dump early access scams before, and this game's entire design screams of retards who don't play games and never have. The execution and blend of ideas is actual trash.

Fuck these fucking scummy ass devs.

They put Linux EAC in their store page, made a Linux discord channel, said it would work with Linux, posted images of them playing the game on steam deck.

Now they switch to a new anti cheat, abandoned Linux users, basically saying we may or may not get around to giving you the ability to play and actually it's not our fault that we made it look like we were going to support Linux.

Fuck them.

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>>746902495
seconded, the more unhinged weirdos get the more I want to look into the game

>>746912964
>I want to be special but I also want to be treated like everyone else!
Get in line chump

>>746913173
Being on Linux isn't special or minority, Linux is mainstream. Hardware survey is opt in and there's 130 million monthly active steam users. 10 million or more use Linux for gaming and it's only growing while Linux is getting worse.

So yeah it is their fault.

>>746913232
so you want them to cater to less than 10% steam users, before they even release their early access? Sounds like a bad business decision desu

>>746902876
Making a different game. Or make that same game in a very different way. Or just be so different that you're not competing with 2 dozen games for a FOTM spot so you don't end up with double digit player numbers in 18 months.

>>746880505
I'm having a blast. But unironically. Just flying people and supplies in is fun and once I get bored shitless of that, will probably switch into base building, then if I get bored of that being a filthy sniper or maybe stealthy base raider.

I just like that this is an actual fucking map with everything being actual fucking players. I bought the last BF, and it pissed me off how much of the content on maps were set pieces and not actually intractable.

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>>746884345
I don't know what the fuck you're doing but you couldn't be further from the truth. I also fucking love the fact that if I run ammo I get XP/money for all assists from the base.

>>746912964
Its not developers fault linux is a piece of shit and can't run games.

>>746892976
I just had a match where red won with 0 bases because they held the hotzone all game. When green called it, they got raided.

>>746912964
They are scammers after all. They'd say anything to get a sale on this piece of garbage because they know don't intend to support it anyway. It's all a grift. Their entire marketing for it is just buzzwords and lies.

>>746914157
>>746912964
Samefag lmao

>>746880505
No. I refunded my pre-order, it's shit. Unsurprising, but unfortunate.

>>746911452
Wait until the spawn vehicle appears then take that into the zone. Each spawn gives vehicle XP and all you have to do is get it into the zone and park it somewhere it won't blow up (outside bases is honestly better than inside them because of mortars).

>>746910386
Just got out a long ass match that devolved into that.
>at fob
>there's always a hill
>snipers in 800 directions
The logi part is fun for a bit though

>>746910386
They just announced a smaller, tight urban map which will be hell for snipers

it's really funny that one extremely angry homo has been samefagging any thread about wardogs
he repeats the same posts in every thread

>>746913364
Because sales aren't based on the monthly active user account on Steam. it's based on popularity, demographics of the player and genre. It doesn't include all 132 million people that would even be interested in buying it.

For example a similar game like squad has only sold 7 million copies over its lifetime estimated.

Linux users are predominantly men, people who are tech savvy and play FPS games. They are people who usually spend a lot of money on PC games in general. They are people who are generally interested in guns, war, milsim and mature games.

So while the entirety of the active steam user base might only be 10% on Linux probably it can be upwards to 25 to 40% in a specific genre like this game. You Can see that with how many people are complaining on their forums.

So these devs are literally just killing their own game LMAO

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i miss the old days of bf4 when i could fly around in the black hawk and be an air fortress spawn point
being a flying taxi in wardogs is fun, glad to be back in the game

>>746884309
>>Escape from Tarkov (2025)
??? it had been out for a decade, how the fuck is it a 2025 game?

wardogs if made by call of duty
>game is suddenly 200 gb
>map is just the control zone
>no building gameplay at all
>explosions everywhere
>$20 cosmetics day 1

wardogs if made by battlefield
>game is now 80 gb
>map is big but only half size
>can only build the small hammer structures
>$20 cosmetics day 1

>>746915286
BSG managed to out-grift themselves by releasing it again, on Steam (No, you can't play it there if you already paid for it)

>>746915505
I don't understand why anyone wants to launch all their games through Steam.

it is a chore to play but somehow still fun

Okay everyone, I was a big fan of alien vs predator 1 and 2 and natural selection 1 and 2 years and years ago.

So I say they should add a forth faction of bug lizard alien guys that works completely differently. Make it 133 players instead of 100.

>>746880505
it will be good for a month but will die faster than marathon

>You kill the same guy in the same location so much that diminishing returns kicks in
What is wrong with zoomers?

>>746883496
>put barricades around tower
>put barbed wire around for good measure
>win
Its that simple

>>746884345
Give it time. Player base is at its infancy. Engineers gonna rule this game in time. OR just play foxhole which is actual war simulator.

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>>746913663
This, there is no point playing logi and not delivering uniquely ammo, since you already have autists on mortars using third-party tools to calculate firing solutions, and you get rewarded for their kills and ammo usage, whereas construction materials, oil, or mechanical stuff gets you nothing.
And I already can tell the retarded devs will nerf Logi to the ground instead of rewarding actually useful deliveries, because the goal is to get everyone to run to the hotzone to die and buy more gear (Which will also be unlockable/sold in bulk through microtransactions after 1.0 drops)

>someone on the enemy team has the rocket little bird and can actually fly
>team can't put AA up for some reason
>no one has stingers
Holy GOD this is pure cancer

>>746880505
>steam trailer has player voices in it
Dogshit

pretty big red flag that they went from ndaing everything only a month ago to pushing for full release next work when there are definitely issues with how gameplay currently works with fob/
towers
also ttk once any half decent armor is in play
i dont mind some of it because my planetside leetfit is going to take a dump on 99.9% of the playerbase just like outfit wars

>>746889403
>Like 15 people sitting at the tower doing literally fucking nothing while I'm singlehandedly shutting down a flank after a truck snuck around us
>Me and one other guy fighting for our lives in the woods right in front of the tower while an entire enemy squad is able to just freely walk up to us
I know building sandbags makes some people feel really big brained and gets their dick hard BUT WE CAN'T WIN IF WE CAN'T EVEN LEAVE OUR BASE BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO AFRAID TO PEEK YOUR HEAD OUT

>>746892473
>Maybe try playing the game instead of joining a match, get the shitty starter plastic rifle, fail to kill anything because you are just bumrushing points and expecting to do epic flick kills.
Instructions unclear, I killed people and have 150k now after like three matches.

>look at the circle move on the map
Wow epic gameplay. I liked Section 8 where it had silly missions to complete for bonuses like:
escort the NPC convoy
Plant the bomb
Kill the commando (super NPC)
Capture the outpost (one team gets a base to hold others attack)

>>746918268
You play as the farmer or you play the the crops. Always avoided helicopters in Battlefield games. I made an exception for Vietnam in BC2 but only because apparently in that funny DLC only I was able to fly without crashing into the ground. Still farming gets boring super fast.
>100 kills lol you never died and had no risk of dying
Fun game...

how are some guys super high level with 15-20k kits? (silenced weapons, etc.)
are they just crushing and playing 12 hours at a time?

>>746920001
Lots of mentally ill people playing this one

>>746918618
the circle can be manipulated by the drills/towers. if you didnt know this and were still taking shit without knowing this you're GAY

There’s an obviously a specific slow paced way the devs want people to play the game that’s just not sticking.

If we’re being honest letting people spawn on FOBs with a reasonably small cooldown that’s not 7 fucking minutes would go a long way toward making this game playable.

>>746921031
wouldnt that just make the game faster?

>>746921031
>slow paced game
>make spawning faster

what sort of retarded idea is this?

>>746921072
Problem? The game can easily be tuned to account for faster spawning

the fob cooldown could be a bit shorter. right now duking it out cqc is liek the least enticing

Will they add character customization? I want my character to be black

>>746921031
The major problem isn't even that, it's that currently (And for the forseeable future), the game is balanced and deliberately paced around slow progression gated by XP and money (Good luck getting medic XP without burning through your wallet), and also requires you to burn money on gear and possibly a vehicle (If you chose to not play as the dedicated taxis).
Most of the actions you take outside also exposes you to being domed by the billion snipers spending the whole game getting frags, and so far the betas are too short to allow for the Battlefield-tier vehicle autists steamrolling the entire map unpunished.
Nerfing/Limiting snipers in any way would result in the game losing half of its playerbase, so it won't happen, and anyone with a sliver of sense can tell that the progression/money systems will heavily favor whoever gets there first after each reset, which are major design flaws for a resource-based FPS.

wait what is this gold thing
250k for 1 gold? that's crazy

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holy fuck I thought the playtest was fun but I ain't buying this bullshit
I am not leveling up again

>>746921959
nerds have millions in the first few days. gold is for degenerates basically

>>746922039
after ~2 days played? lol

>>746881243
>its the perfect balance between battlefield and milsim
So it's like RO/RS2?

the only thing the pay for your kit and long transit time to the zone does is turn 80% of any given lobby into tower snipers
awful game

the lmg sucks donkey dick without a bipod jfc

>>746886764
Holy based
EUgods win again

>>746921031
>that’s not 7 fucking minutes
did they change it? last 'beta' it was 10 minutes per apc use lol

>>746907257
>Tarkov FINALLY adding mag loading animations after legit 10 years
>Wardogs still mag packs from the inventory screen
DayZ is ancient tech we somehow lost

>>746911362
My autism fort has stingray drones ready for such occasions. The second I see an artyfag on the kill feed my drone is sent :>

>weekend starts
>beta ends
are they retarded?

>>746918618
Wardogs will have a parley system where you can bet on yourself for the next match by giving yourself objectives to do in the next match. Might be fun.

>>746921776
What are you on about. Medic is money printer. If you go into negative cash being medic you are literally retarded for real.

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Nobody's talking in EU voice chat
classic

>>746923902
American servers are the same
game of mutes

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>>746911362
>wiping my slate clean so I can improve on the build and squeeze in two base builds in the same spot in one match
Thank you.
This has happened to me already. Usually you get bored shelling an empty base after the first kill or so. Then I come back and kill all the enemies inside the base using a cheapshit shotgun kit and rebuild it. Killing the retards that try to invade and claim an overextended, logistically unsupported base is the the easy part. I already know how to assault the base because I made it and I'm secretly better at first person shooters than everyone else. I just like playing Minecraft: War Edition more than I like the koth gamemode.

>>746924051
Not everyone is a gay streamer farming for engagement and content.

>>746923478
I've played a few open betas in my time that have pretty much ruined my interest in the greater releases because I played the beta too much. BF6 was one of them. Barely played the actual game after the first week/month. To be fair, there were multiple reasons for that, but the open beta definitely contributed.

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how is everyone so good at this game
people kill me from a mile away through three bushes and a smoke
meanwhile I can't see enemy five meters in front of me and can't hit a standing target
t. haven't played fps for like ten years

2 towers is so much more fun
people actually have to fight

>>746925327
because they have been playing fps for 10 years

>>746925327
Take a round to just accept being dead weight, do not force yourself to try. Take binocs, or ask someone at spawn to drop you rangefinder. Buy an atv, and go to a weird flank, circle around outside the map or find a weird random building to sit inside.
Spot people. Learn what a character in this game looks like when moving, when they're sprinting, what places they tend to take cover at.
Just people watch until you get the hang of picking out which random pixels moving on your screen might be a person.
Also be spotting them with the binocs/rangefinder because you'll get money for it.

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>>746880505
i don't understand, i'm spending up to 5 minutes driving to a hotspot from spawn only to get sniped out of nowhere and repeat. also after running for like 10 minutes the audio on my pc just stops working until i switch audio devices back and forth, rinse and repeat soon after. what is this shit?

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>>746884345
Retard
Logistics players consistently make the most money if you have actual players at your FOB
Last game I played we we're 10 or so people at the FOB at all times so both logistics players made 250k each. Also EU, on Central Europe servers.

>>746925327
where do you buy vehicles?

>>746925573
i dont get any fucking money when theyre at teh fob what do you mean?

>>746925327
The average FPS player became ridiculously good over the past 10-15 years. I think because of ranked systems, Youtube guides, and anyone who can't compete quitting.

t. played online FPS around the year 2000 and the average player could barely hit someone standing directly in front of them.

>>746884976
People who prefer TPS are not human.