Jesus christ what happened
>>746919653Older cartoon style was replaced with 3d animation, typical stuff if you ask me.
>>746919653one is hyper-exaggerated anime 2d art, the other is stylized realistic 3d.
>>746919653I never noticed just how freakishly long and weird OG Tifa's legs were jesus christ
>>746919763The femur is longest bone in the body
>>746919653>og TifaMmm, love her long legs
>>746919653>style vs. realism>w-w-w-w-why is realism winning the 3D graphics warNigga, go away.
>>746919928Good old retard getting angry at his own delusions
>>746919653>they gave her japanes proportions (long torso short legs) hahahaha
>>746920041god forbid Japanese appeal to what they find sexy
Looks fine in the game.
>Uncs be like "actually the tens of thousands of porn animations of 3D Tifa are le bad"
uncs have sex with broke zoomer girls struggling to pay rent
Is Tifa white or asian?
>>746920538somewhat true lol, I throw a couple of bucks at cosplaying zoomers sluts on OF
They ruined her face. She has a rat face now.
>>746920564She belongs to the Italians now.
Her smile and optimisim: gone
>>746920564No
>>746920564Jewish
That horrible black undershirt makes me want to fucking puke
>>746919763it's an amazing design and you just realizing specific parts about it is intentional
>>746920891>amazing designNomura sucks
Tecmo got it right.
>there are faggots on /v/ who dislike absolute territory
>>746921317I don't even understand the psychological reason for why it's so hot, but I do actually find it hotter with the above knee high socks and skirt with bare tops of thighs.It doesn't make sense, but it works.
>>746921040"sucks" but not a single thing you create will inspire emotion 1/1000th of the level of Nomura
>>746921118aiiiieee don't let the ethics department see this!!!
>>746921385not a single thing you or I create will inspire emotion like Justin Bieber either.has no bearing on quality
>>746921380I think it's because it teases skin.
>>746919653i fucking hate nu-tifa so much. her face is awful
>>746921385It sucks dude.But good "point"
>>746921456you're in a FF7 thread but don't think the character designs are high quality? They're clearly intricate enough to get your stupid fucking ass on the keyboard
>>746919653NuTifa's look is such a downgrade, it's amazing.>OG Tifa's outfit much more plausibly look like her street clothes with some homemade fighting gear>NuTifa has a bunch of sleek shit up to and including a fucking tactical miniskirt>NuTifa now has some underarmor shit to make it clear that she's wearing some kind of exercise shirt and definitely NOT a cropped tank top. >OG Tifa's shoes look like practical work boots. NuTifa's shoes look like some retarded designer shit>NuTifa's fucking thigh-highs are both a very obvious form of censorship, but also somehow makes her outfit look much more like intentional slut gear rather than risque street clothes
>>746921540anon, plenty of thing you are I like do not have high quality for every single aspect.you're obviously too emotional for that topic though. main point is that your supposed point was a very retarded thing to say
>>746920564hapa clearly
>>746920564Hafu.
>>746920564>>746921764Hopefully we finally also get to see Tifa's mom in Revelation.
>>746919653They sucked the fat out of her boobies.
Even back in the day, I always thought, tifa's design was never all that good.
>>746919763>I never noticed just how freakishly long and weird OG Tifa's legs were jesus christ
>>746921608That's the big difference, I think.OG Tifa looked like a girl in normal (if very revealing) street clothing with some homemade combat gearNuTufa looks like she's going to a mall ninja themed sex party.
>>746921317Nothing more gay than liking it
>>746921896That's not even close to the picture
>>746919653boobs not big enough but making the skirt pleated is an improvement
>>746921317Context? You prefer left or right? Because left have more absolute territory
>>746919653She still looks perfect either way
>>746922048You have to go back.
the socks make her hottercouldn't give a shit about the undershirt
>>746922048nta but left is not absolute territoryhttps://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2017-09-15/what-is-the-absolute-territory/.121207
>>746921729What a reddit thing to say. Being emotional and caring about videogames is what this board is for. Nobody wants to read the same boring opinion upvoted again. You can backtrack to my immediate response to, "Nomura sucks." But if you had anything to say about the actual quality of design, you would put your thoughts into a sentence. I have a feeling you won't.
>>746919653they fixed her sexualised design
>>746919653She became 3D ? It looks pretty close tb.h
>>746922128i pointed out the flaw with what you said then you lashed outbut whatever you want to say anon. moving on
>>746922128You're such a faggot dude. Calm your fucking titties.It sucks. Boo hoo.
>>746922236>>746922281Not a single opinion on design btw. Can't form an original thought, mutts?
>>746921317I love that zettai ryōiki gets translated as "absolute territory" in English. It makes it sound like a philosophical concept, like Absolute Spirit.
What an emotional twat kek
>>746922084>>746922115It is but you prefer a degree more than another
>>746919653Left looks retarded. is that a real artist's work?I don't get the issue with right. Nostalgia?
>>746921896
>>746919653Generic-ification
I mean... Yeah her boobs were nerfed, but they put the boob budget into the cute budget which kinda works when you consider that NuTifa is very different from OG Tifa. OG Tifa knows something is wrong with cloud before you even meet her, so she is cautious but hopeful. NuTifa has no clue some is up, she is purely hopeful, so most of her scenes with cloud are not here trying to figure him out, but trying to confess romantic feels, but cowarding out due to shyness. Making her ridiculously cute while being shy works for this version.
>>746920564Probably Asian, but with inspiration from Jennifer Connelly
>>746922785>NuTifa has no clue some is up, she is purely hopeful, so most of her scenes with cloud are not here trying to figure him out, but trying to confess romantic feels, but cowarding out due to shyness. Making her ridiculously cute while being shy works for this version.NuTifa still knows something is wrong, she's constantly tip-toeing around him throughout Rebirth, and talking with Aerith about something being wrong. It's also why Aerith is also lying to Cloud about what she knows at points (date-specific flashback where it shows Tifa told her about Cloud remembering Zack, and Aerith lies to Cloud that Tifa told her).The entire party knows something is wrong with Cloud.
>>746921985what about liking large sweaty men with massive fat cocks?
I honestly don't think there's a single criticism of remake, no matter how small, that I don't feel duty bound to respond to in order to invalidate it. I cannot give critics one inch, not even a millimetre.
>>746920564she's a fictional character
>>746919653The original Tifa was the masterpiece of Nomura, who has (or had at least) a massive fetish for the "slut with a heart of gold" archetype.Which is why original Tifa's appearance is ripped straight from a stripper/prostitute character from an old hentai game and why there are so many references to her being a prostitute in the game (despite the memes about Aerith).
>>746922960She's a Street Fighter
>>746919653cuteifa
>>746923007if you look at Tifa on the left, that is not a masterpiece.Nomura was kind of a hack. Most of his character art (originally) of them sucks. Some of his recent stuff is far better.
>>746923007>despiteThey're both prostitutes kek
>>746921807So did Tifa's mom feed cloud pot roast, that's why Tifa knows his favorite food. Or do you think Tifa took cooking lessons from Claudia while cloud was away and learned his favorite food that way? Maybe cloud's spotty conversation with his mom was censored since Tifa and his friends were around, but he would have admitted to his mom that he failed to get into soldier, and if his mom liked Tifa and wanted them together she might have suggested that while cloud is too ashamed to see her. Particularly now that she knows how to fight. He might have made up that bit that his mom suggested finding an older girl to take care of him.
>>746923071By "masterpiece" I mean she represented everything that turned him on about women.>>746923120Eh, the "flower girl" reference is very weak. OTOH there's a conversation between two men in the original game where they say that Tifa sells cheap manju which was, at the time the game was written, used as a cheeky way of referring to an affordable prostitute.Not to mention her original biography, prior to the game's release, just openly states she's a prostitute.
>>746923147I doubt we see Tifa's mom at all since she's not really relevant outside of dying and starting that entire sequence with Cloud and Tifa.But who knows.
>>746923186They're both prostitutes you weirdo kekDon't act like Jilfag from the FF16 threads now and defend your fictional waifu's honor
>>746923186Aeris is a whore, dude. Sorry to inform you.
>>746919653Right looks better
>>746923308no she is literally a florist
>>746923342And a whore.
>>746923308aeristh probably is, tifa definitely isthis is why yuffie is the correct choice
>>746923368Yuffie needs correction.
>>746923362You are a kike.
>>746923147
>>746923441Maybe. I don't know my full ancestry.
>>746922960She's Nomura's personal nasty secondhand fap material(s) frankensteined together (plagiarized from an actual 1993(=97-4) porn game cheap whorehttps://arch-img.b4k.dev/v/1751130932917.jpghttps://arch-img.b4k.dev/v/1721417195517.jpgwith a gookface modeled after her current JPVA Ayumi Ito (who did illegal nvdity stuff(s) irl back in 1996 when she's 14)).>FYI: https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/737637672/#737639010
>>746922902More manhood, more territory
Oh god. I think that obsessed Aerithfag came in kekNo wonder the thread suddenly got weird, a legit shipperfag
>>746922892Yes, but my point is OG Tifa has enough to know cloud is seriously sus because of the 5 to 7 year descrpency.However NuTifa, only heared the discrepancy during the flower scene and seemed more like 'huh?' rather than OG Tifa who took her time absorbing that. What I think they are doing is trying to remove the clone theory that was in the OG game. But it simplifies the Junon inn conversation, the high affection answer shouldn't make her worry more that it would OG Tifa since Dear Destiny established not only is the Emilio story real, Emilio asked Tifa if she had a crush on any of the boys grow up. Basically the scene is a round about way for Tifa to broach the topic of them, or a confession which she chickens out of.
>>746923556Hmm, fair, but I guess I just don't read it the same way. The "clone" thing still seems plausible for Tifa to suspect I think since she's constantly questioning what Cloud knows.I think there's just far more confusion this time around because there are points Cloud actually seems aware that something is wrong with him, and that brings about the "hope" you mentioned, so she 2nd guesses herself again.But maybe you're right. The entire "SOLDIER degradation" thing wasn't even a thing in OG, that came in the compilation.
>>746923556She confided to Aerith tho
>>746923451Maru?
>>746923529I post about them every single day, many many times. They really are obsessed.
>>746923729Translation issue. A book that mentioned her cat Fluffy uses Maru in the Japanese version, and the translation didn't correct it to Fluffy for the localization.
>>746923723Yeah, that is different, but I think they are trying to set up and pay off early, but they are not trying to set up for clone theory I think they are doing away with that
>>746923669>The entire "SOLDIER degradation" thing wasn't even a thing in OG, that came in the compilation.it kind of was, barelyit was mentioned in game by a couple of random NPCs that SOLDIERs, containing Jenova cells, are feeling the call of Reunion and are starting to get fucked up.there's a dude in Junon that mentions that he's a retired SOLDIER if you talk to him and he starts wearing a black cloak and acting weird later in the game. The remakes treat them all like they have terminal cancer, though
>>746923669Yeah, I mean the clone theory is possible but the OG use of it put SO much narrative weight on Tifa and what she DOESN'T say. Here, Tifa is very front and center, her silence isn't mysterious, hell she isn't silent enough to build that up to the complete shock and sorrow of the original. Yes Tifa holds back, but it's more her locking away her OWN feelings and romantic shyness.
>>746923924Very true It didn't seem limited for me to just SOLDIERS in OG at least from what I recall. A couple of the hooded figures in Nibelheim even did the little brother mimicking his big sister thing like from Cloud's flashback, so it sort of implied that others that might have been subject to experiments are affected. So I thought it wasn't necessarily a guarnateed thing that all SOLDIERS were affected the same way, but maybe I'm remembering correctly.Also, I don't know what the original text was in Japanese so no clue how much is and isn't affected by translation.I'd be curious of original intention.
>>746923451So cloud probably ate at the Lockhart house as a kid? Or Tifa ate at his house?
Was jus tplaying the demo for rebirth. These games really want to be western, I think. Has all the gameplay trappings I avoid AAA western for(cutscene)>Start as Zack, he has 2 buttons to press,(cutscene) what the fuck was the point of this(cutscene)>Now we're in a linear running down a corridor part(cutscene)>Now we're cloud (cutscene), even though tifa and sephiroth are right there, in a linear corridor>Yellow paint (cutscene)>(cutscene) Move the object like its gow (cutscene)(cutscene)>Yellow paint (cutscene)>FINALLY can play as sephiroth, but he's wealk as fuck compared to the og, barely better than Cloud (cutscene), yet he has a high effort gimmick than most of the actual (cutscene) cast(cutscene)(cutscene)>Gimmick segment (cutscene)>Slow segment (cutscene)>Slow walking segment(cutscene)>QTE segment(cutscene)(cutscene)>WALK UP STAIRS(cutscene)>WALK DOWN STAIRS(cutscene)>WALK OUTSIDE(cutscene)>WALK 2 INCHES(cutscene)>Linear slow walking segment(cutscene)(cutscene)>CAN FINALLY PLAY THE FUCKING (cutscene) GAME>Tifa's hold X and Y attacks are the same thing lol? Sephiroth had like 5 y moves and a better counter mechanic than Red, the fuck we doing, why is the guy we barely gonna play the more realized mechanical character?(cutscene)The vast majority of it was walking in a straight line, cutscenes or setpieces. Enemies don't seem to respawn, too, so the combat was boringEven the boss fight had like 5 cutscenes in it, 2 setpieces and a gimmick part where it wanted me to hit the thing on the cieling and cloud says "good thing i dont only use swords XD"... but I had no meter... and even spells cost meter despite costing MP... so I had... use his sword.....
>>746924268>These games really want to be westernWeird, the beginning of Rebirth played out like the most Anime bullshit storytelling ever (and it's 20x more anime horseshit in the ending).Still love the game and think it's great, but god some of how they handle these ideas are Japanese melodrama "Just trust us bro" as fuck
>>746924268The original ff7 (most ff) have a lot of dialogues. I remember some stretches with over 10 minutes of reading straight.
>>746924610That was more of a later FF thing. Early FFs tended to be more succinct with their dialogue.
>>746919653At least we have ai slop to get her with good proportions
>>746920564It's Anime race, which is the fusion of the best traits of Asian and White without it looking weird.
>>746919653DEI and SBI
well she got a mastectomy in mtg...
>>746919653The problem is the colors. Too much black. Bring back the red gloves.
>>746923484>different types of design for her panties>for a game that plays on a tiny screenGod, games and devs used to be amazing.
>>746919653this is what dlss5 took away from us
>>746919653squaresoft + enix merger
>>746923484yeah ive jacked off to tifa for 30 years and im going to jack off to tifa for another 30 years.
>>746919653>Old good, New bad: Safe Horny -edition
>>746924196Possibly. Cloud's mom also taught Tifa how to cook I think
>>746919653>Those man-hands on the OGEw.
>>746919653I don't understand why people think the right one is somehow less sexy. thigh-highs are great and there's more exposed midriff. The rest is just giving her realistic proportions. Her skirt is even shaded in the shape of her crotch which has got to be intentional.About the only retarded thing are her giant shoes, they look like they barely hold onto her feet and would fall off the second she made a kick. But maybe I'm wrong and they look like that because they are full of padding to protect her feet when kicking. I'm not a shoe salesman so I don't know much about shoes.
>>746919653she stopped looking like she has downs syndrome
>>746919916what the fuck is wrong with her legs? Does she have a circulation problem or something? What makes skin look that necrotic?
>>746921118This pose just shows how static the model is, any girl stretching like that, with her arms raised completely up, would have both the shirt and the breasts flatten out while she does that.
thank god the modding community fixed this issue or I would not have played 7-2 at all.
>>746920564she's a hapathats the gamble with asian wives
>>746920564she looks asian and nomura confirmed she is. for some reason tifags can't accept it
>>746927997that seems unlikely wouldn't accept, most people love asian women and find them more sexyunless it's a "breasts are too big for an asian" thing
>>746928417nah lots of OG tifa fans hate the asian looking version.
It's gonna get worse.
>>746928672DLSS5 is such a western "we're too lazy for artstyle" shitfest. It messes up eastern games that actually have effort.
>>746919916Never noticed that pokie before. NICE
>>746928672SAAR WE ARE THE FINAL FANTASY. JAI HIND!
>>746928780nobody is "too lazy", they just stopped hiring artists
I have a confession to make, I like the black under top for Tifa because of the black/white contrast.
>>746919653Nothing. Both like black men.
>>746929160It's actually good design and not too overdesigned/busy.Unlike Rufus's belt trenchcoat.
>>746929160I don't, because she's supposed to look like a slut to draw in clients. Remember that her being a barmaid is more of a cover for her actual source of income.
>>746929160You are objectively correct in that opinion.
>>746919763https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iicas7jDYRU
>>746923484>secondhand fap materialSo if you're not the first to fap to a whore, you're not allowed to? You'd literally have to be on set for a porn movie to get any fapping done, and a lot of them were molested as kids, so that ruled them out long before.
>>746923062>both wearing black vests
>>746922892If everyone follows logic, there will be no drama.
>>746922906>>746922128Must be exhausting.
>>746919653No dolphin tail ponytail is the biggest offender.
>>746919653She became hotter. But not as much as Marlene.
>>746925469>>746931726that anon is one very dedicated, deeply autistic retard who cannot get over how Tifa's design is based on some 1991 Eroge game character. Like he personally feels insulted by it, like it's some cuck thing or somethingThe anon is retarded, you'll see him in every thread where anyone discusses Tifa.I think the anon is a tranny Aeris wannabe but idk.
>>746919653According to the actual artist of the newer models, he was instructed at every turn to desexualize the designs, even for the (white) male characters but especially the females, to align with 'global' (read: Californian) standards.
>>746919763Shorter skirtSkirt is pulled higher, well above the waistNo stockingsBoots aren't as highIt's really just an optical illusion. The legs are the same length. Like how the moon looks way huge when it's close to the horizon with things in the foreground to compare it to, but smaller when it's high in the sky, even though if you hold a pencil eraser up next to it it will be the same size in both locations.
>>746934403this wasnt a thing
>>746919653>thigh highs >more belly exposedRemake mogs
Reminder to report all the remake shills for advertising
>>746934561Yes it was tranny
>>746934561Yes it was. There's an artbook or something with comments from various members of the team, including the artist who designed the models. The japanese members all talk about tech stuff but every comment from Ferrari was about how he was told to tone things down, don't emphasize the figures, cover up more skin, even for Cloud.
>>746935328>Yes it was. There's an artbook or something with comments from various members of the team, including the artist who designed the models. The japanese members all talk about tech stuff but every comment from Ferrari was about how he was told to tone things down, don't emphasize the figures, cover up more skin, even for Cloud.Yes, for the bikinis designsbecause of CERO
>>746934995no it wasn't tranny
>>746935364>because of CEROBlatant fucking liesKill yourself
>>746934524>The legs are the same lengthI'm sorry to inform you that you are partially blind.
>>746935472Between the two of you, you're the more emotional one. I'm more inclined to believe them, honestly.
>>746935472Ok anon, there's a tranny that get sent all the female models that approves or disapproves everything, she's like the creative overlord of the entire company
>>746922906Same
>>746934561There's plenty of evidence the same thing was done with other costumes, from Yuffie's belt and 'ethical' design of Tifa's default outfit and look, to Tifa's blue cocktail dress with the visually out of place grey sports bra and straps which were clearly added in after the original design was deemed to leave too much skin exposed.
>>746935530>He doesn't understand perspective and how similar things can look different because of external factors. Jesus, they teach this shit in grade school art, retard.
>japs' own rsting agencies have gotten ever more strict fordecades at this point>weebs blame it all on westerners anyway
>>746919653Right manages to maintain the essence of Left without falling into the uncanny valley. A difficult feat to pull off.
>>746935639see >>746935364
>>746921764Dad and his Pumpkin.
>>746935812Stop samefagging
>>746935872...i'm not samefagging, that was my response to your reply
>>746922397The stockings make Tifa hotter.
>>746935639Lol, Roberto was not happy. Can't blame him.
Long upperbodies are more sexy than long legs in women that are in shape
>>746935952Yeah i can see him designing normal bikinis then sent it to QAQC just for them to be like "no, change it, this wont do for CERO", and do it like 5 times. Must be tiresome.
Nu tifa is the only normal looking nu model of the remakes.Nu jill and Claire look atrocious and Lara doesn't even look like the older models.
>>746923412Yuffie clearly needs to be spanked, as do Kyrie and Elena.Such naughty, naughty girls.
>>746936008WrongShort bodied with relatively long legs(still short overall) are the best.
>>746936080
Well one is 2D art and the other is a 3D render
>>746935714Apparently delusional, too.I'm so sorry.
>muh CERO
>>746919653>Jesus christ what happenedthis fag happened
>>746935952No artist should be happy with censorship. Censorship is anathema to any creative.
>>746936142It's ok to not be aware that you're actually a retard.
>>746936153MUH CERO fags BTFO
>>746919653
>japs refuse to spend money on anything besides gacha ganes>japanese devs start focusing more on other countriesWeird…
>>746936148The actual villains of censorship are two: 1 is just bad decision and the other is deliveratethe first villain is the one that approves the budget for games and decides the rating of the game should go for. Someone decided that remake should be Teen and approved the budget that way.The second villain is CERO, the ratings are much, much more strict than back in the day. Japs are so fucked in the head that they had to censor pantyshots due to their culture be so hentai focused and the cringe "japanese photographer takes pantyshots" meme.>>746936153>>746936329This is what i mean by the budgeting. Someone made a forecast for sales of the game and decided to market for global. All those instructions are passed to the dev team.
>>746936274This is indeed very serious, yes
>>746934524No.
>>746936560Westerners made the. Censor the pantyshots retard
why some fags ITT are not only ignoring but also defending censorship?they censored/overdesigned swimsuits for NO reasonthey retroactively censored Remake, hurting the sales of Rebirthgames under hamaguchi will always be censored cause he's a Modern Audience oba-san looking retardI want to buy and play Intergrade, but I'm not supporting the game of a guy who listens SE's ethics department
>>746936153Why'd you not put his name in this screencap
>>746921118Hottie
>>746936671What do you mean, CERO adjusted their regulations based on western sensibilities? that's not what happened. Japan itself decided to take the matters into their own hands. Japs are weirdos when it comes to pantyshots and other hentai memes, thats why they changed some stuff that wasnt this strict back in the 00s
Why is this dude samefagging like he's different people?
So, uh, Dissidia can shrink her tits and there's no gamer outrage, Remake and onwards put her in a compression shirt and grow her tits and there's gamer outrage?
>>746936671Japan is very weirdly conservative and super inconsistent with what they censor.Then again the United States censors vaguely sexual things while allowing hyper violence and gore, so not much place to talk on that matter I suppose.
>>746936719Cause I thought him being a modern audience retard was common knowledge by nowhttps://www.sony.com/en/brand/voicesofcreativity/interviews/pspa1/?j-short=en_brand_createthebeyond_voicesofcreativity_pspa1/These are his words
>all the shills argue like kikesWhat a shock
>>746936780first of all, wtf is CERO?>Japan itself decided to take the matters into their own hands.are we also conveniently forgetting picrel now?
>>746936997Anon, the shit im mentioning comes from the 2010 and onwards, far ealier than this DQ shit.
>>746936718There are always people who see censorship as a means of control for political purposes, and those who support them will support their calls for censorship. For example, over the last few years it's been hilarious watching progressives scramble to demonstrate that they're 'hip to the times', swearing fealty every time the goalposts were moved on what it meant to be progressive. Like the vendetta against JK Rowling, once heralded as one of the greatest leaders for feminist rights, now declared a literal Nazi, not because she changed, but because to be a progressive in good standing, tranny rights had to subordinate feminist rights, and everyone had to show they agreed with that if they didn't want to be cast out with her.
>>746935714bro look at the relative placement of the knees and belly buttons, old Tifa has way longer legs
>>746937061sorry, should've said NTA, but i didn't see any direct reference to something concrete
>>746936718anything that reflects badly on 7R MUST be destroyed. it's someone else's fault, NOTHING bad about 7R is the fault of anyone at SE.don't believe me? ask any of these posters to name one thing SE did wrong with 7R. then sit back end enjoy the show.
>>746919653Ugly hags and trannies
>>746937150>>746936997>first of all, wtf is CERO?CERO is basically Japan ESRBthey have guidelines for T rating and remake suffered from it.I said it since remake inception, this shit should have been M rating. Not because i want to see sex, nudes or gore everywhere, but because we could have seen the original ideas and vision. Maybe Tifa would have been 100% the same or it was a slightly more risque version of Remake tifa outfit. We could have 100% got trails of blood. We would have got far more blood in general, even smokes and swears. Sadly someone decided it should be T, and it suffered.
>>746921380>I don't even understand the psychological reason for why it's so hotthe less exposed skin on the leg the more what is exposed draws your eye to it, which combined with the miniskirt's own natural appeal creates a multiplier effect that drives our lizard brains wild.
>>746937319>this shit should have been M rating.But that limits their audience without necessarily making a sizable benefit enough to justify it.Going M just to include wouldn't bring in more people than they'd lose by not going T, the issue limiting the audience isn't that. It's being split into 3 games and story changes that's partly divisive.
>>746922397anything lower than B is not "Absolute Territory"
>>746937136The real difference is the length of the torso, such that the ratio for NuTifa is 55:45 legs to torso, while it's more like 65:35 legs to torso for old Tifa.
>look forward to revelation>remember dirge of cringe will be in the gameNero is by far the biggest cringe I've had in maybe a decade.
>>746937448Yeah i know, but i wonder if these finance and marketing shitheads know that we dont live in 2000's anymore, social media is a big part of it and it ends up backfiring.
>>746937184i do believe you, cause fags like those are present in every fandom. that's why I despise fandomstribalism and corposhills are the worst thing that can happen to the videogame industry. they are the ones somehow convincing suits and devs to cater to them, a vocal twitter minority, shitting up games, crying for representation, falling for the "zoomers don't like adult themes" bait or "zoomers don't like romance">>746937319>CERO is basically Japan ESRBgotcha, so "think of the children" fags, that also censor M-rated games.they have as much fault as SE itself, since they also have an internal "ethics department", so no, I don't think displacing the blame away from SE and Hamaguchi is the right moveSquare needs to suffer from their bad desicions. As I said before, I wanted to play VIIR. Waited cause the price was too high for me at the time, but when Rebirth got announced, Remake was 20% off and mere hours before buying it, the retroactive censorship on Tifa's cleavage happened. At least CBU3 ate the shitstorm and got censored by the sandpeople for having fags, but they stuck to their creative vision
>>746937690Anti-censorship calls are a pretty fringe minority in the grand scheme of things and Square Enix cares more about the T rating than they care about somebody's nostalgia getting crushed or about somebody's cock staying flaccid. The single biggest spike in internet activity about FF7 Retrilogy censorship being made to accommodate the ESRB and CERO rating they want is when 4chan has a thread about it, and these threads aren't especially fast.
>>746937759>they have as much fault as SE itself, since they also have an internal "ethics departmentthe ethics department are the link between CERO and the devs, they are basically QAQC
>>746937759The internal ethics department is consistently described in interviews as being a team that suggests or requests changes to hit a targeted CERO rating, they're effectively a QA department
>>746937690You are a retard, these games aren't for children. They are for adults how grew up with them and have the money to support themNeedless censorship is a spit in the face to those customersAnd lowering the rate accomplished fucking nothing, kids aren't playing FFs. They are too broke to play things that aren't F2P.Devs and studios need to stick to their decades old audience, don't expect infinite grow, and keep their dignity and legacy once they inevitably have to sunset their IPs
>>746937971Pandering exclusively to the adults that grew up with the games is a great way to make sure your audience is forever those specific adults, they aren't expecting infinite growth, they're expecting any kind of growth at all. It's why we're getting a remake of Brave Exvius blown up into its own full game, they've identified that FF's release schedule is now so fucking slow thanks to AAA development that they have no presence among newer players
>>746937971nta but FF's aging non-growing audience is its biggest problem. it's something like all 35-50 year olds.
>>746937971What the fuck are you talking about, you massive retard? what do you even understood of my post?I said that someone in the finance/marketing department, the ones that approve or dissaprove the budgets for videogames and decide how to market the game and what rating should be, forgot that we are not in the 2000's anymore, and making a game T when clearly needs to be M can backfire because while a T rating can ensure sales, social media and word mouth is far stronger nowadays so that T rating can backfire instead of just making it M
>>746937894>>746937825>>746937806and just out of interest, what's one thing SE got wrong with 7R?
>>746938171t rating
>>746938143They want teens to get into Final Fantasy, hope this helps
>>746938143FF7 is a kiddie story, so making it T makes sense.
>>746937894and they are wrongly listened way too much. you can see how it affected rebirth, dawntrial, DQ, forspokenfuck, DQ 2DHD remasters should've been their big western breakout. Games that weren't that much available outside japan without traslated snes rom hacks. People like me who never touched a properly translated DQ was waiting for those remasters. They had to fuck it up>>746938091>Pandering exclusively to the adults that grew up with the games is a great way to make sure your audience is forever those specific adultsYes, that's how you keep your good will and legacy. Pandering to teens amounted to fucking nothing, as you can see. Kids don't fucking care, and now they've alienated the adults. Great strategy
>>746938171All-over-the-place over-convoluted endings in both games.
>>746938230Well, my point is that teens were gonna get the game either way, look at resident evil and look at GTA.>>746938259Not necesarily a kiddie story, it has some dark stuff that nowadays is M rating, unlike back in the ps1 days where trails of blood could be just T rating.
>>746938120Yes, that's not a bad thing. IPs are a product of their time. The modern industry has proven they have no real creativity, they can only remake and remaster. Those IPs should eventually disappear, or risk to turn into modern Mortal Kombat, a IP so jaded, milked and trashed, it became a IP for no one.
>>746938267The issue with these games aren't CERO adherance. If that never factored in, Square will still have way-too-long production schedules that last an entire teenage period when it used to be every few years, a daunting sequel number that makes newcomers thing twice not knowing it's an anthology series, inconsistent gameplay from game-to-game, and all the other problems with modern FF.Square's problems are much bigger than that.
>>746937701Nobody gave a shit about trannies until they started pushing the ideas in schools, with parents often kept in the dark until junior came home and declared they had new pronouns. By this point, the only acceptable response was to go along with it 100%, with anyone who protested labeled a bigot and transphobe and against all rainbow groups as if they're some monolithic entity, when it's one single branch that expects the entire world to upend itself to accommodate what they need to make the world inside their heads make sense. This also extended to pushing the idea into areas women thought were their sanctuaries, suddenly invaded by hormonally and mentally imbalanced men.
Is it still confirmed that at the start of FF7 Tifa is not a virgin but Cloud is?
>>746938143lmao i fucking misquoted, that post was for >>746937448sorry anon
>>746938406For a company looking to keep itself making money and people employed, that is a bad thing.
>>746938459>If that never factored in, Square will still have way-too-long production schedules that last an entire teenage period when it used to be every few yearsYou still act like we are in the FFXIII-FFXV era. Square has popped out a lot of games in the 2020s, and the entire remake series came out in 7 years.
>>746938267>Yes, that's how you keep your good will and legacyI'd honestly rather Square Enix's output go up in flames than pander to Me, Specifically forever. Creative bankruptcy>rebirth, dawntrial, DQ, forspokenOpen-world checklist game, filler arc for FF9 Remake that ended up getting put on ice, relatively successful series, failed experiment? CERO didn't have anything to do with why people dislike these games, FFXIV is a weird one to point out when they're getting bumped up to CERO's M equivalent rating because they aren't taking pantyshots out of the /gpose feature, Dawntrail is "kind of there" because it's a filler arc made to tie in with a remake game that didn't end up happening. Truth be told I still don't really understand why people lost their fucking minds about Dawntrail to the point of going on internet hate campaigns against it
>>746938259kiddies don't play jrpgswhy japan would cater to them? cause they want INFINITE grow, and that shit is gay and retarded
>>746938463This was about JK Rowling, you evangelical fruit-basket. I do not care about your personal grievances and your stepping stone to bitching about bathroom laws.
>>746938529no you didn't. that anon already responded to that post.you're just a retard trying to stir shit.
>>746938532It's not when they have the creatives to make new things instead of trying to reinvent old things for newer audiencessee what I mean? MAKE NEW IP, DON'T RAPE OLD BELOVED ONESthat's how you see the real worth of a studio. if they are incapable of making new good things, they are unfit to keep operating
>>746938642>no you didn'thow do you know, triple fag. no one is using avatars or names. you either believe me or get ignored
>>746938542>and the entire remake series came out in 7 years.The 7 Remake games are a rare unicorn in the modern Square release cycle.It still has the issue of all simultaneously being Final Fantasy "7" and not necessarily understandible to a newcomer what is what. Even has that Crisis Core remake to confuse things even more (which would turn off a newcomer having that aughts-era compilation jrpg writing)
>>746938120The problem is, in their drive to gain an newer, younger audience, they're listening to activists on how to do it. People who say things like "Oh, young people won't like the game unless there's mixed-race couples everywhere", and "Young people won't like the game unless we up the gay content with musical numbers (gays love musicals) and things like that"
>>746938787>The 7 Remake games are a rare unicorn in the modern Square release cycle.again, i dont think this is 7r exclusive, in the 2020s square has released tons of games, they are not in the FFXIII-FFXV era where they fucked up constantly.
>>746938597>kiddies don't play jrpgs>why japan would cater to them? cause they want INFINITE grow, and that shit is gay and retardedThat's how you get the CRPG problem it had for a decade when it was disappearing. The idea that nobody likes that style of game anymore and not even trying.It luckily came back, but it was mostly gone for awhile.
>>746938716you fucking retard, there's directly a post responding to it as the personhere your (You), enjoy it
>>746938672>if they are incapable of making new good things, they are unfit to keep operatingThat's exactly why they're trying. You're asking for them to stop trying.
>>746938823you guys really overstate the "it's activists" thing. throwing out a titty isn't getting them a bigger audience. problems are deeper than that.
>>746919653Nips get butthurt that anime characters have more caucasian facial structure than asian so if characters have to look more realistic they end up making them look full nip nong ching chong half the time as cope
>>746938891You can't force a genre into a generation that grew up with league of legends, fortnite and valorantIt's a massive risk, and companies aren't willing to take itin order to enjoy a good jrpg, you need to get a knack for stories, reading, fantasy, something. newer generation have their mind so rotten, they groan and moan at the thought of having to read in muh videogameand you can see that thing in older generations as well. when people jumped from wow to xiv for a year, content created were "forced" to switch, cause it was the moral thing to do, and some HATED the fact that they had to read a couple of paragraphs>>746939065are they? i only see remasters and remakes. that's not new. that's reinventing what worked in the past, but with an audience that has no attachment to those IPs>746938968ok bye
>>746938331I played FF1 at a single digit age.
>>746939340Oh, you're that faggot.Nevermind. Thought it was someone serious.
>746939453ok bye
Tifa should be bigger. Like continent-sized.
>>746938635It's all connected - tranny stuff being forced into schools, tranny stuff being forced into women's spaces. Because unlike gays and lesbians and most other alphabets, trannies can't just live their lives without interfering with anyone else. Every society on Earth has evolved in a m/f binary. Entire languages have been developed around this simple concept. But despite their movement claiming that a m/f binary is an artificial construct, trannies insist on trying to force the square peg into the circular hole. I'm all for creating open sports leagues where trannies and anyone else can CHOOSE to compete, and finding similar solutions to the other areas of contention, but the activists lead the charge and view 'reasonable accommodation' to be complete capitulation to all their demands. Anywho, video games.
Making anything M rated unless you really have to is just retarded. You lose way too much of your potential audience.
>>746939559how me how rating them T workedit didn't btw
>>746939340As someone who suffered through the CRPG absence, I just can't say I agree at all.I think you're really underestimating the younger generations. They'll place things with lots of text. They're just not playing Final Fantasy.
>>746939187The thing is, the activists are the ones with the megaphones, they're the ones who get heard. Meanwhile, the 'silent majority' would usually accept something less extreme, but they don't get heard.
Actually disregard. Just saw the post chain.I don't like being dicked around by trolls.
>>746939532Imagine being on the land where her boob ends up when she rolls over.
>>746939541>It's all connected (no clear connection whatsoever to JK Rowling being an insane snake)Video games
>>746939645...i say this with all sincerity, you need to disconnect from the internet for a week. maybe go camping. reset.
>>746939614>I think you're really underestimating the younger generations. They'll place things with lots of text. They're just not playing Final Fantasy.having kids myself and being around their classmates, i can say with certainty that they only care about free popular gamesFF games are waaay to expensive for them. And even when a kid has parent who will buy those expensive games for them, they still wanna play the game everyone else is playing, aka the f2p game
>>746939614They're not playing Final Fantasy mostly because of the huge slow release schedule and lack of advertising for non-"numbered" games. Your entire childhood could pass between the big releases, FF15 to FF16 was seven years. It's not like it was when we were kids or our dads were kids where they'd be getting a new game every couple of years at worst.
>>746919653Women. HR/Ethics Committee, uglifying female characters to spite men or to better self-insert as them, etc.We jave seen this 1000 times. It's always women.
>>746939676are those trolls pro or anti censorship?
>746939765I'm not biting. Saw the post chains. Bye.
>>746939747Why? Things will still be the same when I get back. I didn't invent the concept of the 'silent majority', zoomer. It's been around as long as violent unrest has become socially unacceptable.
>>746939827anti censorship
>>746920564Whasian.
>>746939871not a zoomer. gen x.disconnect and reset.
do Tifa and Cloud actually love each other or does Cloud only like her for her looks?
>>746939887then you're a retard, and those "trolls" are right
>>746939871You didn't invent a silent majority but invoking it where it's not real isn't a good thing either, other poster was right that throwing tits out is not actually an automatic demographic win the way people think their tits are being "taken away"
>>746939827prowhy
>>746939942It's Complicated™Tifa wants a knight in shining armor to sweep her away and get her away from it all and has since she was a little girl, Cloud wants to *be* her knight, both of them are neurotic and while those emotions drive them and their relationship they both recognize their feelings are pretty low-priority in comparison to everything else going on, complicated by Aerith being a borderline soulmate for Cloud and Tifa and Aerith being on good terms (unironically if Aerith survived in the original I could have seen it in the cards that they'd have some conversation on what to do about them both liking Cloud)
>>746940138Cloud is short though. He might as well be Elliot Rodger in their universe.
>>746940209Both Tifa and Aerith are believers in the power of a short king
>>746938635What did you do in Final Fantasy Rebirth today?
>>746940326Stick to the 14 threads little buddy
>>746939937>Gen XAren't you a little old to be here? Since your entire life has clearly been a failure, I won't be taking any advice from you.
>>746940386Could you stick to talking about video games, such as what you did in Final Fantasy VII Rebirth today?
>>746940326>>746940440Schizo hunting is not video games.
>>746940413first too young, then too old.that's pretty funny. have a good day
>>746940538Did you attempt the brutal sims in Final Fantasy VII Rebirth today?
>>746940413This is such a spineless millennial response, but typical of their writing. No wonder everyone hates your generation.
>>746939973Men like tits. Red-blooded American men like tits. But western American gatekeepers, a small minority, have convinced the world that all American men are faggots and scared of big tits now. Those men are the silent majority. They like tits but have no megaphone. The japs only hear when the Commiefornian gatekeepers say and so censor their games to please what they think is the majority but is really just that small minority of activists who want to control what the majority can see and hear. No surprise that pro-censorship anons would want to imply that activist gatekeepers don't exist. Tits alone won't make a game successful (unless it's something like Venus Vacation, where it literally does), but having tits doesn't make any game worse. It's poor writing and other factors.
>>746940246This is Japan centric game. 173cm is like 185cm in the west
>>746919653kurwa
>>746940702To continue this point, developers today spend too much time worrying about what they're not allowed to put in games and not enough time putting what they want in games and making sure those games are at least entertaining.
>>746940702It did DOA no favors. People were embarrassed by it and it's a dead franchise now.Depends entirely how you do it.
why do so many people in their 30s still ship characters from a game now 30 years old?
>>746936080>Yuffie clearly needs to be spanked, as do Kyrie and Elena.Cissnei is also naughty little girl. She will only ever listen if she gets daily BWC treatment.
>>746940917Dying franchise and pathetic middle-aged uncs.
>>746936101>>746919653what gets me is that not even modders care to fix it, all the mods for the game are shit
>>746941024is "unc" the new "incel"?
>unc confused himself
>>746940879DOA fans were not embarrassed by it. The FGC only pretended to be embarrassed by it. A small fraction, yes, the ones who've supported censorship in other fighting game series, but the rest disliked DOA because of the counter-hold system, a mechanic they didn't like. They used the 'It's a titty-fighter' as a dodge for their true problem because it was low-hanging fruit and didn't make them out to be incompetents who couldn't grasp the concept of mixing things up in fighting games. Then the series died because of retarded decisions by Koei-Tecmo, mostly because they tried to chase social justice trends to appeal to that same censorious Californian cabal instead of embracing what made the series different from Street Fighter and Tekken and the like.
>>746941139And it's dead>Californian cabalkek, Jesus Christ dude.
>>746941020>>746936080Cissnei and Kyrie need to join as permanent squad members to balance out the sausagefest that is Cid and Vincent
>>746941218Literally listened to Tom Lee, their LA-based creative director, who is a gay Korean Trump-hating douchebag who has survived twice telling KT to desexualize DOA for which the main directors lost their jobs or were reassigned after sales went in the tank. The only thing that kept it going was sexy costume dlc, $1200 worth, and adding sexy characters like Mai Shiranui.
>>746940702Holy shit a Facebook boomer post on /v/
>>746941512You don't say. Unfortunate about that secret cabal conspiracy.Good luck with that.
>>746941657Ah, someone who thought the relocation of Sony HQ from Japan to California had no other effect than changing geography. There's no getting through to someone with so many men's cum inside them. Enjoy.
>>746941580Worse. Millennial conspiracy nutter apparently.
>>746941657are you mentally retarded or jewish? are you really implying california isn't pushing wokeshit?
>unc crash out time
>>746929160the belts served that purpose well enough but whats worse is that the gloves are thin and form fitting instead of bulky which ruins her silhouette and takes away emphasis from her fists which she uses to fight
Bet you the ethics department is ran by fat white women
>>746940764ac tifa is so fucking sexo
>>746943561censored trash
>>746919653Soul / soulless
>>746920564She's Nibelese
>reminder that a literal tranny did a better modern take on Tifa than SE
>>746944052That looks terrible. You have garbage taste.
>>746944052that's a man.>betterfuck off tranny
>>746944052>that>good
anyone notice faggots liking the censored version
>>746944052Looks awful and somehow this troon bled his male facial structure into a drawing. I know AGP face when I see it.
>>746920891>it's amazing because it's the old designLow iq bitch
>>746944270i see a faggot liking the tranny version a few posts above yours
>>746921896would
>>746944318looks like someone is guilty because i never said anything about the recent tifa post
>>746944052Based, bootlicker fags seething.
>>746920564asian. she's based on anri okita >>746943561giga based>>746943642how? her boobs are huge!
>>746944270I do like nu-Tifa's design but it doesn't take away from the fact that it originated from active censorship so I'm conflicted. It's a nice design, it's just poisoned from the outset.
>>746944372the faggot who liked the tranny version, as mentioned yes
>>746920564Hafu like Anri
>unique art style>realism slopgimme left any day
>>746944470yep
>>746919653Sqaures ethics department happened. there's a reason they're losing money and I smile knowing they worry about it. fuckass clowns
>>746945903Their profits keep going up. Despite lower sales, XIV brings in a fuckton of money. They're not losing money in any sense of the word.
>>746921896why did you post a pic of a refrigerator?
>Tifa joins Street Fighter>she loses to Ingrid>to celebrate her victory, Ingrid eats the FF7 world
>>746946687i think i will never understand the appeal of vore
A Remake that is not a true Remake
>>746946687I remember when Ingrid was introduced in Capcom Fighting Jam. I thought she was one of the hottest characters ever. But they never really made her a major figure in Capcom games.
>>746928672>nr intensity at max to make it look badnooticing
>>746946840It's one of those fetishes only autists have, it's not worth trying to understand, their minds are fundamentally broken.
>>746919653Enyentafication
>>746937759>gotcha, so "think of the children" fags, that also censor M-rated games.Pretty much, I remember I think it was Sakurai who complained about CERO and pointed out that they asked for stupid shit. Like they forced the devs to turn the character upside down, remove articles of clothing and put the camera in angles that the player normally can't even see. Just to see if there was a chance of a panty shot.
the real tifa
>>746939610What
>>746945903>there's a reason they're losing moneyThey aren’t losing money though.
>>746919653The thigh highs are sexier
>>746948530me on the left
>>746919653She is 90% legs on the left. Kinda dumb
>>746919653Her ass got fatter, and a sports bra makes sense to me. Breasts have weight and nerve endings, they can chafe and bruise.
>>746919653Do those legs go all the way up?
>>746948530That is not even a controversial take. Women wear sexy lingerie for a reason, but a virgin wouldn't even know that.
>>746919653She used to be white and then Advent Children ruined everything
The art direction at Squaresoft (PBUH) was too good for this fallen world.
>>746944052the two replies complaining that has manface might be retards
>>746952889You just have faceblindness.
>>746920564very obviously asian in the remake stuff, which is not a good thing
>>746952936wrong application of that term
>>746953036No, it's correct. You can't intuitively recognize facial features.
>>746952889looks like you triggered the male feminist
>>746935364>>746936039>>746937806>>746937825>>746937894>CEROCERO C doesn't restrict boobs. (Neither does Rated T) Square Enix's internal ethics department is compliant to activists. 2022's CERO B-rated remaster of Chrono Cross is evidence of this. I will respond to this with another example.
>>746953096>>746952936That's not what face blindness is, don't argue yourself into a hole for the sake of another anon with TDS.
>>746953236
>>746944052I wouldn't kick her out of bed, but that's not Tifa.>>746952936That's not manface by any stretch of the imagination.
>>746953332
>>746953343>That's not manface by any stretch of the imagination.It is, you just can't recognize male facial features. You can only notice large jaws.>>746953276Hello /tttt/.
>>746948076>Pretty much, I remember I think it was Sakurai who complained about CERO and pointed out that they asked for stupid shit. Like they forced the devs to turn the character upside down, remove articles of clothing and put the camera in angles that the player normally can't even see. Just to see if there was a chance of a panty shot.Only CERO A has an issue with panties. CERO C is fine with them. Disregarding CERO A, the issue would be either platform restrictions or publishers' restrictions. Another problem with CERO is that they forbid nudity and ultra violence even in its highest rating of CERO Z, but this has nothing to do with what Sakurai was describing.
>>746920564>pronounced nose>large eyes>tall>pale white skin>Mediterranean face profileAnyone claiming she's Asian is either a moron or so inundated by anime they lost touch with reality on how Asians look like.
>>746953461If you see a woman and think "man," you're gay.
>>746953616worse, he saw a woman and started boiling about the /lgbt/ board
>>746953274CERO arbitrarily restricts tons of stuff that’s not actually against their guidelines. Like all rating agencies it’s exclusively stuffed by bitter retards.
>>746919763the weirdest thing honestly is that they decided to keep the long leg thing for yuffie.it's just weird
>>746953830Yuffie is way too stick like. I cannot take her seriously. At least Aerith and Tifa look human, if a bit anime like in the face.
>>746953830they do play up that she's an overcompensating teenager in the regames, making her gangly helps sell that imo
>>746921764That dude looks white.
>demake shills try to blame cero for the blatant tranny censorship>get completely bodied by a based anon who actually knows his stufflol
>>746948530FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT
Asians stopped trying for idealism and instead try to make out their shit state is great.
>>746919653the small details sure, but the only really big difference is the sports bra and leggings.thankfully i like the leggings, and you can tell her tits are just as big, they just aren't hanging low.
>>746953274 (me)See pic attached.>>746953783Look at other CERO C-rated games. Square Enix Ethics Department isn't about simple compliance to age-ratings boards. The expressions targeted are go beyond into anything that's "discriminatory, biased, or offensive." Because the sexual expressions are offensive outside of Japan, Japan's expression is negatively affected.
>>746953882Teenagers who aren't obese can be like that. They gain height before their bodies fill out, so they look gangly for a while.
>>746953616I didn't see a woman, I saw a drawing with male facial features that you either can't recognize or are intentionally not recognizing.>>746953656Actually I saw you crying about "TDS" and pinned you for what you are.
>>746919653Japan is ashamed of their anime legacy and trying to distance themselves from it, because homosexuals and middle aged women in the USA (the modern audience) find it icky and don't like it.
>>746954457Yeah, when they're like 10-12. Yuffie is 16 and fully grown.
>>746951658>Women wear sexy lingerie for a reasonIndeed
>>746953274 (me)>>746954294 (me)This final picture attached is from when Square Enix censored 2016's Star Ocean 5 in all regions to comply with English activists. The article on the left side quotes the developer who outright blamed "flak from overseas countries" regarding fictional sexual expressions to explain why they censored Miki's panties.Square Enix's Ethics Department may have begun as somethig that was simply compliant to age-ratings boards, but it has overextended into restricting expression beyond what is formally required. The Ethics Department is compliant to activists that demand restrictions on fictional expression.
>>746919653Jesus Christ is what happened. Prude bible thumpers kept harping on and on about how the buxom pixel woman is going to steal away the sanctity of their souls through their dicks.
>>746955524Californians are famously devout Christians, of course.
>>746955603California follows what sounds to be the hot trendy thing. In the 90s they're the ones that gave the world fucking Baywatch.
>>746955524It's both English progressives and conservatives. The only requirement is being Anti-Fiction.
>>746948519This right here is the problem. Square Enix can afford to become shit because gamers are STUPID. Honestly gamers deserve to be shat on because they like it. Gamers are the dumbest types of customers ever, they are more idiotic with their money than cunts.
>>746946687Then Tifa calls her friend Sora to kill Ingrid because Sora is stronger than Ingrid.
whoa mama
>>746955902Honkhonk and Marie buckbroke SJWs a decade ago
Why do these threads ignore that characters also have beachwear revealing more skin than the original games?
>>746919653Normalfags
>>746953830>buckled pantsI will never forgive Square Enix. I hate the Ethics Department's "internal guidelines and internal feedback".
>>746919653Her legs aren’t 2/3 of her body length now, how awful.
>>746956078Because then their shitpost would be rendered moot.
I came to the New Tifa more than the OG one.Deal with it .
>>746937971Dragon Quest's censorship is one of the few valid examples of CERO's censorship. Even though Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake was CERO B, the warriors outfit has historically been censored for CERO A. However, we know the use of Body Type A and B was because of the Ethics Department, and I wonder if DQIII HD-2D could've actually used uncensored designs because of the atypical CERO B rating.
art really exposed dumbasses, her skirt is shorter and it gives the illusion of longer legs
>>746956143didn't kingdom hearts already button her shorts almost 25 years ago
>>746956636>faux apathetic all lowercaps no punctuationHello /tttt/
>>746956742so didn't kingdom hearts already button her shorts a quarter of a century ago or is it more buzzword vomit in response
>>746956821>didn't a different game with a different version of the character who is explicitly not Yuffie from FFVII but "Yuffie" from Hollow Bastion change her design along with every other FF character?More faux apathetic all lowercaps with no punctuation from you too. We can tell you're definitely not boiling by how you went through the extra effort to remove proper grammar from your post. Look at how above it all you are!
>>746955918People like their games and pay for themWhat’s the issue?
>>746956902Stick to FFXIV threads little buddy. Remember you don't have janny immunity outside of them.
Why does every video game company have a dedicated schizo
>>746957016Oh look, it's exactly who I thought it was. Crazy how easily I can pick you out of a crowd, isn't it? Did you do any brutal sims in Final Fantasy VII Rebirth today?
>>746957047Because /v/ mods don't ban or filter them.
>>746957083Who was it you found, again?
>>746919653Good thing I don't give a single fuck about tifa
>>746957145How do you farm light in Pagos again?
>deltatroon going to bat for censorship again
>>746955120People develop at different rates. Obesity can trigger early puberty, for example. There's also differences based on genetics. Yuffie is a clear case of a teenager who has attained what will probably be her full adult height (she's roughly the same height as Aerith and only slightly shorter than Tifa) but is still skinny. Having high energy/metabolism probably keeps her that thin but as she gets older her tits and hips will fill out. Having a baby would likely help.
Crazy how companies are so shit now and filled with such idiots that they can’t do literally anything right
>>746957016>argument raped so badly you have to resort to boogeyman schizo shitOOF that's gotta hurt!
>>746947628Ingrid from Fire Emblem has more fanart than Ingrid from Street Fighter.Capcom lost.
>>746956143Nigga, who cares. The FF series isn't a fucking WEG, you horny little virgin.
>>746957483they cared enough to censor the designs
>>746957483>Nigga, who cares
SE has to comply with draconian jap censorship. Weebs blaming the west for this is insane.
>>746957421Wait so you didn't question the explosion of I FOUND YOU I FOUND YOU WHAT DID YOU DO posts or are you rooting for him or what's going on? I'm confused why this soi duel seems onesided
>>746957621>STOP LAUGHING AT ME LAUGH AT HIM!
Bodied that freak damn
>>746957047Idk but it makes this place unusable
>>746955524That was back in the 90s mostly at the tail end of the cultural revolution that began in the 60s. The progressives in music/enterainment and later vidya used sex, bad language, violence and the like to rebel against the soccer moms and 'The Man' - the 1950s conservative establishment still clinging to power. And it worked. They won. Women could be sluts and not shamed for it. People could fucking swear so fucking casually and for no fucking apparent reason to the point where it's no longer fucking shocking to hear someone swear multiple fucking times in a motherfucking sentence. Splatter and slasher films are everywhere and the violence has to be ramped up to even shock modern audiences. The sex and violence as rebellion crowd took over the entertainment industry. But now they were the ones in power, the old methods of rebellion no longer worked. They no longer had 'The Man' to fight - they were 'The Man'. And then they became 'The Man'. Now sex is bad, women should be covered up. Swearing is here to stay, but violence is now only acceptable if it is used against those deemed political enemies - men mostly. Violence against women and minorities is now taboo.
>>746956039Honoka did. Nobody has ever singled out Marie for how she looks, largely because the same people who think big tits are problematic are also all pedophiles who want to normalize the sexualization of children, beginning in school where they ask them who they want to have sex with so they can slot them into designated identity groups.
>>746957480I don't know any characters from Fire Emblem, because it's a waitemup.
>>746957892Nigga, Marie was considered very problematic
>>746958005Show me one article that ever specifically named Marie as problematic. Honoka was used to accuse vidya women of having 'porn type' bodies. Kasumi, Ayane, and Kokoro were used by Sweden to accuse DOA have containing child porn, the result of which Marie was created to mock their laws (Marie in a bikini, because she's 18, is not child porn by their laws, but pre-DOA5 Kasumi is, despite having big huge tiddies). It's always the busty girls who are said to have 'unrealistic' or 'objectifying' figures.
>>746958201Hell, even their own director said it
>>746957808>but violence is now only acceptable if it is used against those deemed political enemies - men mostlyThis one's been universal though. For the vast majority of fiction man inflicting violence on woman is treated as either punching down and therefore not something a real man would do or boorish and therefore not something a good man would do. That's why violence towards women is done either as a fight between two of them or the guy just quickly dispatches the woman. The perfect example of this is Total Recall's "consider this a divorce" scene. Sharon Stone completely disarms and ambushes Rachel Ticotin and has a concealed pistol on her body. She could have easily gone for the draw and shot her but instead they engage in fisticuffs. It's not like Stone wasn't trying to avoid killing anyone either because she reaches for a nearby knife to slit Ticotin's throat. It's not until Arnold gets involved that the gun comes into play; and then its one headshot and a quip later and Arnie dispatches Stone.
>>746958634With women it's not so much that it's not allowed. On the contrary, it happens probably more than ever. It's that now women are more often portrayed as either equal to or, increasingly, superior fighters when fighting men. They get the quips that used to be reserved for Arnold, after defeating a man thrice their size and strength. When it comes to villains though, minorities are no longer allowed, or they're not allowed to be 'just evil', they have to be nuanced and have justification for committing evil acts. Most egregious example: the orcs in Rings of Power and Maleficent. Only white men are allowed to be evil simply for money or power or cruelty.
>>746922392It's an Evangelion reference
>>746958397>shimboriprism may have unironically saved DOA if they do the AI shit they did for itprism unironically starts to look very good as the game goes on. it just has pop in and physics jank here and there
>>746961293That's Absolute Terror Field though.
>>746961382Absolute territory is the area around Geofront (pussy) that the angels must not be allowed to cross.
>>746961465That's Terminal Dogma.
>>746919653In case anyone still doesn't know, Tifa's black "inner" was added by the ethics department to justify restricted jiggle physics during action. Nomura admitted exactly this to Famitsu. See pic attached for Remake Tifa's unrestricted concept art.https://boundingintocomics.com/video-games/final-fantasy-vii-remake-director-tetsuya-nomura-confirms-edits-to-tifa-and-the-honey-bee-inn-due-to-ethics-department>We wanted Tifa to have abs, so she now has more of an athletic body type. The ethics department at Square Enix also said we had to tighten her chest so it doesn’t look unnatural during all the intense fighting. Because of that we added black thigh highs and tank top.>>746956636I figured Disney had its own internal guidelines.>>746957483All restrictions on fictional expression are evil and inhumane. I want the creators' truthful, uncensored intention. I hate how FF7R is censored because of ethics departments' internal decisions that go beyond age-ratings boards, and I hate Square Enix's compliance to the restrictions required to receive around 16+ age ratings.Incidentally, Australia's M rating, which is for 15+, is stricter than PEGI 16, ESRB T for 13+, and CERO C for 15+. I'm more willing to blame the government-operated Australian Classification Board than any of the other self-regulatory age-ratings boards.
>>746961661 (me)For an example of how bad the government-operated Australian Classification Board is, see pic attached. Unlike other age-ratings boards which are self-regulatory, the ACB is legally binding.
>>746961661>new is always bad>t.autistic retard/v/ is pretty much a mental institution at this point.
>>746962315>reads a post that doesn't exist>accuses other people of being mental patients
>>746936780Edens Zero has visible panties, the only thing CERO got more strict with was smoking
>>746961661Tifa-chan's thong...
>>746936718Anon those are the SJWs for who the censorship was made for, youre talking to troons not normal people
>>746936819It's the clothing thats censorship, her breasts in Remake are big
>>746941505Atleast Cissnei should, I was honestly hoping one of the DLC being about her but no
>>746951658Why doesnt she have a proper navel with depth
>>746953474You should add Edens Zero too
Tifa Tifa's are too strong for nippon
>>746965225Her being censored is not due to anything related to Japan. This has been proven multiple times in this very thread.Get it through your thick fucking skull.
>>746965979SE's internal ethics committee is outside Japan?
Zoomer here what the fuck is this thread about?
>>746966041Console game. Consoles are dead in Japan. Game is made to appeal to westerners and thus was exposed to what is believe to be western sensibilities on what is acceptable and what is problematic objectification of women.
But people are okay with Aerith's redesign?
>>746966426Maybe if japs started buying games again their own devs would see them see as a viable market
>>746966460Consoles have been trending down for years and years in Japan. Handhelds surpassed them eons ago, and now phones have become the logical progression. All they do is work, so they have to play on the go.
>>746966460Seriously, it's so funny how nobody ever admits to this fact. That gacha and handhelds helped kill japanese relevance. It's what happened to sony too. Nobody in japan has the room or time for a purely at home console or pc.
>>746966770ExactlySo who gives a shit what hypothetical japanese customers would like? They won’t but it either way
>>746920564Whasian?
>for my all of them
>>746919653stylized anime look was replaced with a psuedo realism style
>>746967169Brain fart.>Square-EnixFor me all of them are nips.
>>746967356None of the people responsible for the censorship are japanese
>>746966978Best pairing.
>>746920564She is hapa. He dad was white but we never saw her mom
>>746919653Valentina Nappi cosplaying as her makes me so hard
>>746968020>pairing.Aeris is clearly getting fucking by a guy off screen.
>>746944052Her Dissidia NT design was literally perfection
>>7469196533dpd not living up to manga/anime; many such cases.
>>746920564Yes.
>>746919653_____ vs ______
>>746921896I blame the Heels
>>746922397Thigh High Thighjobs
>>746923062Still not as cute as Cuttie
>>746941020Cissnei is a 24yo hag
>>746920564ItalianPizza Cutter man teased it in Tactics Advance
Aerithsisters....
>>746919653For me its Godwin Tifa
>>746920564She's been painted white by my semen
>>746953519Asians in places like Japan actually believe they’re the real White people and it’s everyone else who’s swarthy, including actual White people. I don’t see this attitude among those south of them for whatever reason.
>>746919653Feminism won
>>746966978Sauce? White girl and asian female is underrated KINO
>>746919653Am I the only one that likes both designs? Obviously the intention was to cover her up, but the designer subverted even that with the ZR black leggings. Man of fucking culture.
>>746977657>Am I the only one that likes both designs?Honestly It's grown on me
>>746977657Yes. Women also like it because it's easier to move now for cosplays
>>746976197
>>746919653Ethics happened, chud.
FFVII Rebirth has some really good looking female NPCs, I feel like that's where all of the dev's hot girl energy went towards.Shame really.
>>746958201>Clarissa ByeWomen come up with the craziest shit to keep themselves thinking they're 10/10.
>>746976561>Asians in places like Japan actually believe they’re the real White people and it’s everyone else who’s swarthy, including actual White people.I know, but can you blame them? Outside of actual movies literally ALL of their media use anime aesthetics, which in turn present them as looking like white people, sometimes with exotic hair colours. The only instances I've seen of characters being drawn/animated looking Asian is a handful of Chinese/Vietnamese characters.No wonder their entire society has a case of body dysphoria, have to use filters on every photo and do plastic surgeries/skin bleaching en masse.
>>746981765>WomenCare to take a mulligan?
>>746961661>Suzuki: The inner wasn't there when I designed it; it was added when we created the 3D model (at the request of the Ethics Department), but I do think it looks better with it.what a fag.I suppose there are plenty of these kind of emasculated losers within Square Enix. In contrast, look at how full of grit that Westerner, Ferrari, is.
never forget what they took from us
>>746919653I genuinely won't be able to stop fapping if they designed remake Tifa design accurate to og Tifa. Just imagine sweaty Tifa in that see through tanktop, jesus just begging to be titfucked.
>>746919653She became even more goonable
>>746920564She's obviously either armenian/georgian/uzbekistani/some-other-stani, you american retards just have no fucking clue lmao
>>746987538>slav injects his retarded takeGo back to gambling in CS2.
>>746972757too flat
>>746977657>ZR black leggings>Man of fucking cultureLmao.Tifa's sweaty bare legs >>>>> muh ZR
>>746919653Italian senate goddess...
>>746990270But I thought he was going to save Aerith well after her corpse was rotted and they were going to get married!
>>746957538so?
