>lusting over a 1 year old
>>>/vr/fuck off unctroon
Out of ten!
>>747081313mad newfag (when are they not?)
Tell me about this series
>>747082171Knock off Star Wars RPG series but good (except the 3rd game).
>>747082283If you actually played, or I'll be generous and just say you skipped through the text, you'd know besides Phantasy Star 1 having some storm trooper NPCs, the story is nothing like Star Wars.
>>747082283>Star Wars invented space and planets and advanced-tech armor and weapons and and andUhhhh?
>>747082595I mean you could call Final Fantasy a knockoff of Star Wars too so they aren't wrong
>>747081047>race mixersI prefer humans. For me it's Alis’ butt
>>747082686no, but they made it cool
>>747082747there's no evil empire and rebel alliance for one, there's no great collapse of technology, Phantasy Star is about inevitability and futility, it's much more dark and better written than Star Wars.
>>747082171Rolf…. had a hard life….
>>747082929there's the the force, and it's dark
>>747082842lol (at you not with)
>>747082283>It's like Star Wars because you go to space, visit other planets and form a party of multiple species of humanoid aliens on a quest to defeat a big bad emperor and evil sealed in a canIt's like saying Call of Duty invented war as a setting for videogames
>>747082747>theyLOL least obvious samefag
>>747083467shut the fuck up
>>747081047Why does PS4 feel so special compared to FFs and DQs? Or it's just me?
>>747083562>off-topic dancing webmWhy is Phantasy Star attracting mad newfags who make up outlandish retarded shit?
>>747083673it's not outlandish to call a 90s game a ripoff of Star Wars you little seething goblin
>>747081047>No Generations IV>no anime based on the Algo Saga(the only good content about Phantasy Star)>no more good Phantasy Star with the same dev team as the I, II and IV(they are all dead)>ZERO good Phantasy Star like fan games>hard as fuck to make a PS style game in RPG Maker>American SEGA can ruin the franchise even more at any moment since it is already defiling old classics like Street Of Rage, Shinobi and Golden AxeThis fucking sucks really bad. It is the only J-RPG I cared about.
>>747083767>seethingTypical mad 12-25 year old who keeps repeating his favorite buzzword LMAO
>>747083564It just came earlier, that's all.Bookfags also got the cooties against modern elves, dwarves and orcs because LOTR and ancient D&D did it better because muh childhood or something.In fact, what's ruining it now is that some subjects and settings have become a big no-no but that's only a problem if you engage with these internet nannies and their shit instead of looking elsewhere
>>747083907Yeah whatever go back to your shitty MMO which is even worse than every shitty Star Wars MMO
>>747084002You are new to 4chan and you believe Star Wars invented the concept of space LOL keep bumping the thread so more people see your lolcow ass
>>747083564Characters were allowed to have distinct personalities. Alys and Rune could be arrogant douchebags while being good people. Each character had a nice dynamic against each other. Even regular NPCs were memorable without being forced. The storytelling is excellent and for me it is the best one ever even nowdays.
>>747084082Blud your franchise ain't had a good game since the Dreamcast era. Keep reminscing.
>>747084229>bludWhy do you keep telling us how new and underage you are? 4chan is an 18+ website, lil' gup.
>>747083564In my opinion the story had higher stakes and you never really knew who was actually going to stay in your party.
>>747083797>No more good PSYou're being negligent anon, the stuff is there, you just aren't willing to try it and cling to a past that's never coming back, setting yourself for disappointment purposefully.Phantasy Star Blue Burst on GameCube is literally nostalgia kino (there is a private online server on PC version too), the first Phantasy Star Universe is okay and PS Zero on NDS is pretty good too. And if you are willing to play online, PSO2NG is to the series what FFXIV is to FF fans, those willing to get into it will find a lot of references over the whole series, the devs respect it's legacy
>>747082283congratulations you made it.
>>747082747ff is a rip off of D&D literally. Several monsters in 1 were copywritten by TSR. Also skyships are also from FF they didnt come up with it.
>>747083564The manga panels it does for telling the story is cool as fuck and no other game really did it(no VNès dont count)
>>747084484Tried those a long time ago. All shit.
>>747084917The imperials of Shinra Corp are called Storm Troopers lel
>>747085065You're the Phantasy Star equivalent of Chris Chan clinging to Sonic 1-3 hoping they one day make a real Sonic 4 and eternally yelling at clouds over Sonic's blue arms. Sad!
>>747081313>NOOOOO STOP TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES PLEASE TALK ABOUT TWITTER SCREENSHOOT GTA VI LIKE A GOOD GOYhow about you kill yourself shilltroon
>>747085305I don't care about your furshit franchise. All I know is that the I, II and IV are the only good games they produced under the franchise. And your brown self can't even argue about it.
>>747082283>>747082747
>>747081047too old
>>747082171It's a series with a unique blend of sci-fi and fantasy that hasn't really been replicated since. Your magical swordswoman main character will casually board the space taxi to go to another planet so she can delve into a dungeon to free the mighty warrior who's been petrified by a curse to aid in her adventure. The games have standalone stories but are connected by a consistent setting and history that actually culminated in a satisfying finale. And Sega will never, ever do anything with it ever again.
will sega ever release an updated phantasy star 1-4 collection?
>>747086404>produced by Team RGG
you should be able to read this.
>>747081047>lusting over a 1 year oldIt's time.
>>747086504I only know some kanji from hentai games
>>747086504>>747086805Mostly because h-games don't use katakana
I wish PSII was less of a slog
>>747086504I wish we had gotten remakes on DS or PSP roughly with the production value of PSX era jrpg titles. There's so much potential in this series that Sega never actualized.
>>747087024you mean with the retarded encounter rate there is mods that make is less brutal
>>747081047It really is a shame that 4 doesn't get brought up more often in classic rpg discussion. It's such a good game, especially if you're willing to push through 1-3 to get all the references and callbacks.
>>747087756it doesn't fix retarded dungeon layouts
>>747082686unironically yes. Star Wars hit Japanese creative culture like a bullet to Kirk's neck. Plenty of Japanese creators of sci-fi games and media in the 80s and 90s pin Star Wars as their main inspiration. Phantasy Star is the obvious one, but it pops up in other places like inspiration for Vagrant Story.
>>747089282>like a bullet to Kirk's neckGiven the context, I read this as a Trek reference for a second before I got it kek
>>747081047Well, she looks like a grown-up. So it's not fun.
>>747084725one of the most ominous posts I've seen
>>747081047If 1-year olds looked like that...Guilty.
>>747084484>pso2ngs>worth playinganon I love Phantasy Star as much as the next guy but cmon now
>>747088852No wonder they bundled a hintbook with that damn game. Still, it was a massive downgrade from the original. You'd think, newer console = better graphics, but they lost the cool 3D dungeons, and replaced the unique battle backgrounds with a single Tron-like grid. Most disappointing sequel ever.
>>747090554What rushed development does to a motherfucker...
>>747090554I tried to beat it fairly, with pen and paper, but gave up on the endgame teleport maze dungeons
>>747086315Oh boy, time for my favorite copypasta.>be random Camineet citizen>live in a prefabricated carbon-nanotube dome at the edge of a casual-use space port protected by 50 foot high plasteel defensive walls>want to visit my bronze-smithing cousin in the primitivist collective in the next town over>cancel plan, forgot the forest is enchanted with disorientation magic, and our wise and benevolent ruler King Lashiec banned the sale of compasses last year>decide instead to do some relaxing fishing in the nearby port town instead>have to walk 30 miles to get there, there are no roads between cities and a vehicle costs more than I make in a decade>fend off swarms of eye-bats, giant scorpions, ghosts, and the occasional dark wizard>I really need to save up and buy a laser sword one of these days>finally arrive, most beneficent and gracious King Lashiec banned all the boats too>can't fish at the beach because I would be shredded and devoured by deep ones>life is great in Parma, all hail King Lashiec
>>747087756I hate that I have to move to the very edge of the screen to get it to scroll. I don't think anyone that made all those improvement romhacks ever did anything about that issue.
white millennial male thread
>Love Genesis / Mega Drive PS 2 character designs>They Ruined it with PS2 Generations
>>747083181Except it was a Dark Phallus.The hard pill is knowing Phantasy Star was all about intergalactic BBC all along.
>>747091826Man, if only the artstyle was the only thing wrong with that version.I sincerely hope the people who came up with the systems and combat for it, never worked again.
>>747091274Could be worse. Imagine if we were all forced to live on Motavia or something.
>>747083564Sci-Fi settings are much rarer in JRPGs so the ones that exist feel a lot more unique and special
>>747092124Not to mention Phantasy Star kinda has its own thing going on.Star Ocean's been there, but the two series' don't feel anything alike.
>>747081047I like the action games well enough that came after, but it's beyond fucked up that Phantasy Star never returned to this style. Don't even want it at this point, the time passed a decade go.Still, what I wouldn't give for a final, definitive I-IV collection in modernity with all the bells, whistles and old spinoffs of I-IV.
>>747091826Rolph's face in Generations 2 are fucking priceless. Really shows how everything is getting fucked up in his life.
Is Phantasy Star 3 really that bad?
>>747093932nah, but it's clearly rushed. you can find enjoyment in it.
Phantasy Star would have been more popular if the sprite work was better and combat was left/right instead of forward facing
>>747093932It's eh. That's the best thing to say about. Not horrible - if you want horrible, go play Phantasy Star Gaiden from the game gear. That's a bad fucking game.PS3 tried to be different, and didn't really succeed in most of the ways it tried, is the problem. The generations system is interesting though, since it results in branching stories that ultimately lead to the same place, and at least in the second generation, those stories are substantively different. The soundtrack was kinda mediocre for a PS entry, though the world theme does this interesting thing of adding an instrument for each party member, so you start solo, and wind up with five, and the song "evolves" with each new person. The combat's really meh and took out the visible models from 2 again. Technique system is not good, but they did a thing that lets you balance the strength of techniques against what you use and don't use, so that isn't wholely awful, etc.You can play it. You won't despise it. You just won't have any particularly special memories of it either.
>>747093932Someone please post the "every town in PSIII" collage, it is fucking hilarious.
>>747083564Really good characters that banter but without overstaying their welcome, impressive visuals that hold up as the tail end of pixel art being mainstream, fantastic soundtrack by people who knew how to use the soundchip, well paced difficulty that wasn't particularly hard but did fuck you up sometimes, it just did well above average by pretty much every metric an RPG of the time could be measured by. Like Chaz is kind of a whiny little shit, but not to an annoying level, and he grows into his protagonist role in a way that I didn't really see again until Tales of the Abyss, and Luke was way more annoying to start. It also has the Macro system which I'm mad didn't just become a staple of similar battle systems.
>>747094167>Rika forgetting the 1 hour grinding sessions before each bossfightFucking bitch, bet she was jealous of the positive attention Chaz got.
>>747094167>moments before the party HINAS's out of the dungeon and spends eight hours doing hunters guild quests and fucking around on the hydrofoil
>>747086504>full katakanawtf is this shitidk the last time I saw ヲ anywhere and ハ for wa is cancer
>>747094798God Seth's the fuckin best. Real bro.
>>747091979I like all 3 of these sexy leotard claw users. 2 of em being weird catgirl bio monster things, and one being a Robo Nanny is pretty unique.
>>747095126>God Seth's the fuckin best.>Real bro.
>>747095360Your love has a long way to go, since you left out the numan genetic base mother in the left.
>>747095795Is that 100% canon or just a dead obvious implication that almost everyone naturally comes to?
I remember PSIV being 99 dollary doos at Toys-R-US and thinking that no one would ever pay that much for vidoe game.
>>747081047How long to beat the old game? I wanna make my own Fantasy-Scifi Fire Emblem game.
>>747096024I sure as hell never owned it on Genesis. I played it through Sega Channel. My parents usually didn't mind getting me the more expensive games like Mega Man X2 since I only got like two a year anyway, but Phantasy Star IV was a bridge WAY too far.
I just tented it at Movie Gallery for like 3 weekends in a row and beat it. I was stressing every time I rented it again that some fucknugget would have erased my save data but I vastly overestimated the popularity of 90's niche JRPG series in the great state of Georgia.
>>747096024I scored a used copy at a shady as shit flea market in 1996 for twenty bucks or so. Case, manual, good condition.The previous owners save file was trash, I've never seen someone actually fail a fucking Hunter guild quest ever since.
>>747096482meant for >>747096334
>>747086315>a unique blend of sci-fi and fantasy that hasn't really been replicated since.star ocean exists, and 2/3 are both better than any PS game.
>>747082171pretty good but not great jrpg franchise heavily overrated by the fourth game which is by far the best in the series and segACKs desperately clinging to the only decent jrpgs they got in the 2d era (and if PSIV came out on SNES it wouldn't even crack the top 10 rpgs on the console)
>>747096650>3I too enjoy breezing through the entire game by spamming side kick over and over. A truly peak experience.
>>747082789>ps2 mobile game demakemy fucking eyes
SHUT THE FUCK UPGET THE FUCK OUT WE DO NOT ENGAGE IN THIS FRANCHISE IN THIS BOARDCRAWL BACK TO WHATEVER DARK HOLE YOU CAME FROM VILE TROONSYOU CANNOT PASS
>>747081047Corrrrrrrrr. PSIV... Great game.
>>747096776Corrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. My babies and darlings. My kino healer girl and my robo-gunner.
>>747083564the anime portraits and cutscenes drastically elevated it above its competitorsphantasy star always had a good setting, and good writing, but it was held back by mechanical issues and ui presentation quite heavily. like the lack of seeing character models when you were selecting actions, or the poor effects for abilities - just like dq in that regard, absolute dogshit battle screen in terms of visuals, the effects are all just lazy low effort rpg maker ass4 completely rectified that which is why it is an exceptional game and pretty much everyone favouritethe stakes were higher, nei and alys were both done well before this kind of thing became remotely a consideration with ff7and the characters are just very good, there is a lot of writing of characters from the pov of the writer, with no real commitment to the characters beliefs or behaviour as its own entity. ps4 characters are pretty well written with commitment to the characters as they are as people rather than just as a vehicle for the writerand the ost is just insanely good, batters it out the fucking park for atmosphere whilst also being insanely melodic and memorable and all over the placesettled on this as my favourite game of all time years ago, a question that's always hard to answer "whats your favourite x/y/z" because there's usually a handful that are up there and its hard to choose>>747084484pso, and all games in that vein thereafter, is not the same as actual jrpg phantasy star. pso is still good, in completely different ways mostly again due to music and area design relying heavily on atmosphere - but it entirely lacks the story and characters, they are all irrelevant ass. and its not a jrpg, its an action game that's just about friendslop mmo farming drops with friends
>>747095505>get a normal ass guy in your party 85% into the game.>no real reason for him to join you, other than he's just kind of there. I dunno game, I'm not sure I want this guy.
>>747096743for me, its AIMING DEVICE into SCATTER BEAM. also>implying PS combat is a strategic experience and not mashing through random encounters over and over again
>>7470905543d dungeon crawling is generally not good, the series was objectively correct to move away from itlack of backgrounds is a step down, but now you get actual character sprites in battle and the characters actually have animations for attacksi'll take that over backgrounds if i have to choose, it is drastically more important
>>747083564It has pretty incredible presentation, so much so that it still holds up fairly well today.>>747084484Phantasy Star Online and its derivatives have a very different appeal. That's not to say it's bad, but it's not really a continuation of the original Phantasy Star series in any meaningful way.>>747088852I actually like that the dungeons require some effort to navigate. The high encounter rate kills a lot of the fun of exploration, but the dungeon layouts themselves are pretty good for the most part.>>747093932On paper, it's a really cool game with a ton of innovative features. In practice, literally everything about it is executed poorly. It's not irredeemable garbage, but it's also really not worth playing.
>>747097127Dude he can cast RUST at people, that's awesome.
>>747096650Star Ocean's different. It's usually space dudes getting stranded in fantasy settings, maybe with a slightly more advanced area at some point later. It's not really the same as going to the cloning labs to grow yourself a replacement for your dead party member before handing them a mythril sword and taking on cyborgs with fire magic. Even Shadowrun doesn't go that far in being schizophrenic with its sci-fi/fantasy elements.
Phantasy Star has to be one of the most underappreciated yet influential franchises in video game history Japan appreciates it more but stillFF and DQ could never
>>747097474>game with multiple generationsyeah, DQ could never do that....
>>747093932no, but it is not as good as 2 and 4the artstyle is hit or miss, they changed it a lot, the combat ui is very bad compared to the other games for no real reason, very silly choice, and some of the endings depending on which wives you choose just kind of end strangelylike dark force is in a treasure chest, for no reason whatsoever, you just open a chest and fight the final boss as one kid
reminder that it is official lore that the humans in Algol are canonically from Ohio
>>747097539It could do it half as good as the worst PS game is what it could do
>>747096024my dad bought it second hand from an old granny in the yellow pageswe were going to rebuy shining force 1 and 2 and she offered us this, the us version with a converter to let you play it on eu consoleswe ended up buying only shining force 2 and phantasy star 4 instead of what we went for, a choice i am incredibly glad about
>>747096650different setting concept entirely, star ocean is 70% "you're on a medieval planet and cant use guns and technology shhhh"the combat is also very hit or miss, if its not 3 or 4 its literally just spam r2 the entire game - and even in 3 and 4 it becomes spam r2 eventuallyi love star ocean, but it is not the same. at no point do you get a fucking landrover in starocean to drive around the planet, at no point do you get a hydrofoil. any implementation of "quests" like in so5 is just mmo kill x or fetch milk dogshit, the hunters guild is not like thatthe games are almost not similar in any way
>>747097149>>implying PS combat is a strategic experience and not mashing through random encounters over and over againIt literally is, you aren't "mashing" in ps4, you have macros for that exact reason, and those macros 50% of the time are set up so they create combo moves between characters which is, by definition, strategic
>>747081313if it were up to me I would drop an atomic bomb on the whole zoomoid generation bunch of twitch watching limp wristed jobless goyslurping faggots. acquire a soul.
>>747097941Tri-Blaster, my beloved.
>>747093932it has a terrible english localization and pretty shit animations compared to the other ps games. but the original japanese story and the japanese book lore released in the media mix around the game is some of the most interesting in the series. The scenario writer of PSO Akinori Nishiyama said that PSIII also greatly influenced the writing of PSO.here is his post about ithttps://x.com/Locky_hca/status/2001964467874320496
>>747097595When people hear parmigiano reggiano they don't think of amerimuttland.
>>747098279PSIII is the phantasy star game that would benefit the most from a remake that incorporates all of its extra book lore into the game. Unfortunately the main character designer that had continued writing extra material about PSIII Toyo Ozaki passed away in 2024.
>>747098517Apparently the japanese devs did because they wrote アメリカはオハイオ in the lorebook lol.They also confirmed that the ancient algolian language is english in the japanese ending of PSIII where the android Shiren (Wren) translates communications from the "London Communications Center" while mentioning that the language is "Greatly similar to the language of ancient Algol".Phantasy Star III and this lore book both released in 1990.
>>747098279That's very interesting info, thank you for sharing!
>>747096728>it wouldn't even crack the top 10 rpgs on the consoleidk, when i played these games in the late 1990s i thought ff6 and chrono trigger are clearly above ps4 but i did like ps4 more than pretty much all of the not ff or chrono snes jrpgs i tried, including secret of mana and its japan-only sequel (completed them eventually but kinda middling stories and characters), terranigma (dropped mid-game), or breath of fire (dropped very early), or lufia (also dropped early)ps4 gameplay has some issues but the really story sucked me in. the more limited graphics hardware of genesis/smd vs snes shows but if ps4 was made for the snes that wouldn't have been an issue. same for music if you don't like fm synthesis but i thought they made pretty good use of the worse sound hardwareenglish translation felt awkward at times but every jrpg on snes had shit translation too except ff6 and chronodid any jrpg on snes even have anyhing like ps4's comic book style intermissions in it?
oh right som too had an okay localization since it was done by woolsey, but other than those 3 the english text was always just as shit or worse than in ps4
>>747098279I mean, he says that, but I can't see any obvious influence other than the colony ship and the V2 PVP stage they reworked into a virtual one for BB.What writing there was in PSO was really, really different, what with black paper and the experiments.
I'm gonna explain some deep lore from the japanese side of things.First I must start with the history of some Kanji, chinese characters that Japan also uses in writing. It actually is important here.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_views_on_sinThe first Qin emperor Qin Shi Huang 秦始皇 forbid using zui 辠 "crime", which graphically resembled huang 皇 "emperor" in his name, and replaced it with zui 罪. The Chinese character 罪 for zui combines wang 罒 or 网 "net" over fei 非 "wrong", ideographically depicting, "A 网 net used to capture the criminal who has done 非 wrong".In Phantasy Star II's futabasha novelization. While explaining the Nei weapons Lutz explains to the main character Eusis that "Nei" means "あらず" (arazu) which in kanji is the character 非 (arazu). And this gets repeated by the elders in PSIII where they refer to the Nei weapons as "ぶきにあらず" or "arazu as weapons". Pic related is the page from the Phantasy Star II novel where Lutz explains the meaning of "Nei".ネイ、つまり＿＿に’あ’ら’ず’という意味を持つ武器、ネイ・ソードとネイ・シールドを!Nei, or rather＿＿weapons whos name means にあらず(of 非,un-, mistake, negative, injustice, non- ), Nei Sword and Nei Shield!And now as I explained earlier the arazu 非 character was historically used to create the 罪 character which is read as "tsumi" in japanese. The same "tsumi" as in PSO's "Tsumikiri J-Sword". The japanese discription of its precursor the Sealed J-Sword even says that it is engraved with the mark of sin "罪".And that is why the Tsumikiri J-Sword is most likely the same sword as Orakio's black Nei Sword from Phantasy Star III.
>>747102793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx7eY51Y3P0For me its the track when you are in vehicle combat, best violin synth I've heard on the console.
>>747101456in the japanese version of PSO during the Seek My Master quest they tell the legend of the four swords. In that legend they explain that there was a war 1000 years ago that destroyed another planet before they came to Coral. The official PSO artbook further explains that the Miyama family has deep connections to the old lost planet. The characterization of Zoke Miyama with his loyal android Shino that has served the Miyama family for hundreds of years implies that the Miyama family may be the last of the Orakian lineage. There is an official PSO manga published by SEGA that shows Zoke entering the ruins and clashing with Kireek where Kireek stole the Soul Eater from the ruins before the battle training quest begins. Zoke knew exactly what the item was, even mentioning the grave of its prior owner. Zoke seems to have known everything about Ragol and the Ruins and he was likely searching for the Tsumikiri Nei Sword to handle Dark Falz himself. Zoke was likely the one that resealed the ruins door (unknowingly behind Rico) before the player unlocks it again. Within that context Zoke's death in seek my master was like the main character dying and leaving everyone behind in a doomed world.
>>747086504>アリサ。聞いてくれ。>ラシークはこの星に強大な>災いを招いてしまった。>世界は破滅に向かっている。Not too bad, mostly simple vocabulary. I've read worse
>>747103476
>>747096963Would Rika be classified as a Paladin?
Amy is cute!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6YdZx57pUg
>>747103735I think Chaz fits that class better, maybe combat cleric?
>>747094798>forcing Dark Force to work for you on Guild quests Heh
>>747094682God I love Rune. Best white magician ever.>fully mage but yet a fit tall chad arrogant as fuck and kind of a scumbagKino.
>>747094798>>747104335No wonder Mile was genocided
>the measurements? Why certainly. Starting with the bust...
>>747102793>>747103476>>747103676going on the japanese seek my master narrative after one of the endings of PSIII the survivors of the Alisa III worldship settled on an unnamed planet. Then at least 1000 years after that Dark Falz awakened and manipulated the population into a war that forged the legend of the four swords and ended with the planet's destruction and the populace moving to planet Coral. Of the four legendary swords Oroti Agito in particular was an attempt to copy the Orakio's Nei Sword which had come to be known as Tsumikiri and may even have been the sword that is said to have destroyed the planet. The old Miyama family, descended from Orakio, was likely involved with the secret sealing away on Ragol of Dark Falz along with Tsumikiri and the Soul Eater/Soul Banish while the population migrated to settle on planet Coral. another 1000 years later a D-Cell infested meteorite, a fragment of the destroyed planet crashes into planet Coral and causes another crisis and war that threatens the planet while also starting an arms race on photon technology developed from research on the D-Cells. A probe searching for more D-Factor rediscovers Ragol, the place where their ancestors had secretly sealed Dark Falz away and an arms race greed fueld scientific expedition is launched under the guize of a new migration effort. then PSO begins.
>>747104335Lulz aside, he absolutely destroys Valhala Fort or whatever it's called, the rogue AI base. Finally, YOU get to be the one casting corrosion on robots for hundreds of damage instead of dark arts assholes taking 95% of Wren's HP.
>>747081047she's cute
>>747104757True. He was very useful last time when I played that hack that makes the game harder and AI smarter.
>>747091854>Space Jews who got kicked off earth used BBC to ruin three other habitable planets they were fortunate enough to find because they just couldn't help themselvesChecks out.
>>747091854What did prophallus do?
>>747104572>yep we're gonna make an entire animation of alys punching him for the measurements that we'll never use again, also a unique face art that we'll also never use againkino>>747104392>white magicianjust because he wears a white cloak doesn't make him a white magician anon. he has no healing spells, he has revive and that's it. he's a fully offensive mage, by any generic definitions he's a black mage
>>747102793In the japanese Phantasy Star III script they make a big deal about power existing in names and symbols. The elders say that they had to keep the true name of "Nei" hidden until it was absolutely needed because it could easily become something bad. When "Nei" is finally invoked it spontaneously awakens the knowledge of Grants, the light technique.And earlier in the plot when the main character reaches the temple where Dark Falz and Orakio's black Nei Sword are sealed away. When the character takes hold of the sword they notice an etching that speaks to them "My name is Dark Falz." and then laughter rings out as Dark Falz celebrates that his name is free in the world again and thus he has been let loose.非 symbolizes Nei and 罪 could symbolize Dark Falz sealed within the darkened Nei Sword. A portion of the great light became the profound darkness after being imprisoned in the dimensional prison of chaos after all. Light makes darkness. A pair exists. But it does not always exist.That part of PSO where Rico suddenly realizes the name of Dark Falz hits much deeper with this understanding of the narrative from japanese PSIII.
>>747105223I love that the PSI incarnation of Dark Force is just a semi-rare encounter you can shitstomp on the way to the final boss.
>>747081047Rika for Smash?
>>747091854The japanese lorebook from 1990 does confirm that it is indeed Dark Phallus with all of it's sexual connotations. PSO leans in to this with all of the sperm swimming in the air in the final area of the ruins spreading his dark seed.
Phantasy Star 1 - 3 is outclassed by Etrian Odyssey. And Ephinea is filled with troon mods
>>747104012Chaz fit me more as a Spellsword than Paladin, since while he has good healing his tech is ususally used more for zapping things with Tsu. He's also not as tanky as he probably should be.Rika is oddly tanky despite barely wearing much (not like Wren or dual shield Rune though), and her tech is mostly used for healing and buffing. Her offense is mostly physical.That fits a Paladin more than Cleric.
>>747105332Forgot to mention that the anger from realizing Dark Falz is loose because his name was invoked causes the spontaneous awakening of the knowledge of Megid technique. This fully parallels the later Nei invocation and Grants awakening scene.
>>747105714And Nei's claw?
>>747105508thats just mercy somebody in their 30-40s should never behave that way.
>>747106046I'm just a poor gooner who got tempted by Mercy
>>747087024It's one of very few games to filter me as a kid by not explaining where the fuck I'm even supposed to go.
>>747105329In Phantasy Star, he's a white magician because he literally uses light/holy magic offensively. EFESS literally only works on creatures of the darkness. The Espers are basically templars.Healers are more akin to druids, like Raja.
Are you ready for Modern Phantasy Star?
>>747107086No. Begone.
>>747107086rape sega
>>747107134What wrong? You don't like modern Phantasy Star?>>747107161They seem to do a fine job by themselves
>>747107086What the fuck
>>747083408Flash Gordon is better than Star Wars anyway.
>>747086504>>747103608This is why I always laugh when weebs say Japanese should get rid of kanji.
>>747107430You would think they would be the ones to appreciate it the most.
>>747107086Myau died for this.
>>747105882the true Nei Claw is the secret episode 1 quest reward item Heart of Poumn and it is intended to be Miun's claw from PSIII. Heart of Poumn's 3D model has "Nei" visually etched on the side of the weapon. The other legendary claws "Nei's Claw" and "Rika's Claw" were introduced with the gamecube version and exist more as references rather than being fully tied in with lore.There actually is an art book that lists Orakio's black Nei Sword as also being called "Lassic's Blade" indicating that it previously belonged to Lassic from the original PS. The same art book labels the Heart of Poumn as Miun's Claw which also holds the name "Alis Claw". This Alis mentioned is actually not the same as the Alis from the original Phantasy Star as the name is spelled differently, アリス instead of アリサ. The Alis mentioned on the claw is the name of the green haired newman on the back of the Book of Hunters shown wielding the Heart of Poumn and implied to be the owner of the weapon after Miun. That character is the OC of Mamoru Nagano of Zeta Gundam fame who also worked as the designer of several PSO weapons including the Heart of Poumn. This same green haired newman named Alis with her Heart of Poumn claw also appeared as an NPC in PSO2 episode 1.
>>747107086But really, why don't they revive the Phantasy Star RPGs? If done well then you get a successful game and it makes people interested in trying out PSO2
>>747107052This isn't really case though, he uses effess because he's lutz, not because he's an esper. Kyra cannot use effess despite being an esper. They would not make up a term like "white magician" if he's the only one to ever exist
>>747107589Don't worry, you get to play as Alice, now!>>747107619>Sega>competentThey hired a /vg/ tranny that destroy the global population and turn it into his circlejerk until he got hired as a sound guy in other games.
>>747107619>why don't they revive the Phantasy Star RPGs>If done wellNu-sega could never, they are in a mountain of forgotten IP's that would get trashed on if touched. Look at what happened to golden axe recently.
>>747107619Brotherman they couldn't recreate Phantasy Star properly 25 years ago, let alone now.
>>747107619don't ask for thingslook at shining these days
>>747107619Gacha whales pull in infinitely more money. We're in for a fun time when NGS finally goes EOS though. That'll be almost two decades worth of account investment sega will be expecting players to completely give up on. Twenty years worth of spending.All the shitstorms we've watched on /v/ won't even compare. The japs are going to kyoani sega big time, and we'll get to watch it live.
>>747081313GTA6 thread died for this...
>>747107619>>747107714>monkey paw finger curl>PS is now all tranny shit>use Western style >story is about tranny drama>Dark Falz is a Angelo before he transform>use all those abomination color scheme from Tumblr
I have no idea how to play PSII.I get filteres in the firat dungeon because i have no idea which way is up or down.
I tried pso2ngs but something about the combat made it not as fun as pso2...it's been a while since I've played but it seemed like every class relied on counter timings to maximize their damage like they were all just variants of bravers. Could someone with more experience with pso2ngs confirm or deny? I want to get back into it because I have the pso itch but I dunno. I never got past the first city.
>>747108246PSO2 NGS relies on countering in general. They're Scion Class in PSO2 base. They saw players using Scion Class like Hero and Luster and thing, LET MAKE ALL CLASSES LIKE THAT.
>>747107619Just let Atlus do it.
>>747107613Damn. Thank you.
>>747108335>turn PS into PersonaAnd how about you shove a pinecone up your ass?
>>747108310Luster was actually fun, nothing in NGS is.
>>747108310Okay yeah ngs is dead to me
>>747108379>Luster was actually funOnly because its a cheatcode by the Ch6 dev that knows Base is about to end soon.
>>747108379To be fair, the soundtrack's still really good. But that's about all.
>>747108439If only they use those OST in some of the announcement instead of the shitty dubstep that the /vg/ tranny shove into PSO2 youtube page
I wish I had the webm of Rune warning the player not to fight Zio
What was his problem?
>>747109109Yuji Naka cameo
>>747081047Rika was my first vidya crush
>>747109109as established earlier in the thread, he desired the BBC from space daddy
>>747109109He might have been ragebaiting
>>747109109Seething over his gnarled little retard hand that he never lets anyone look at. Also he may or may not have been a Lutz candidate and took being rejected extremely poorly, I can't recall if that is fan fiction nonsense or a deep cut from some JP interview or compendium.
>>747109235Now that you mention it, the character design gives off Failed Lutz Candidate vibes. He looks like the anti-Rune.That would've been such a great plot point.
>>747109235the director and character designer of phantasy star 4 yoshibon drew a whole manga chapter of Zio's origin story as an esper mansion dropout that he released in a 30th anniversary book
>>747109612Ahh, good, I'm not crazy. About that, at least.
>>747109612How did he teleport to Motavia?
>>747109235>>747109535>>747109612>>747109703yep im posting the whole thing translated
>>747109703True magic is a hell of a drug, same goes for Rune.
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>>747109830Yeah I was under impression when I first played that a big point in the story was the isolation between the planets after the cataclysm from phantasy star 2. But I guess Rune and Zio are the exception and I shouldnt think too hard about it.
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>>747110102this is the last page of Zio's origin manga
>>747110102>mfw not actually immortal
>>747109956>>747110021So Zio's arm got fucked up from touching the Dark Falz shard. And Seth the archeologist that may have helped Zio locate the shard became a full vessel for Dark Falz.
>>747110323With this concept of shards then Seth was the revived Phantasy Star 1 Dark Falz, and Garuberk Tower was the revived Phantasy Star 2 Dark Falz. The one on Kuran is this millenium's new Dark Falz.
>>747110320>It only took a anitmagic stick
>>747109235what is a lutz candidate and what was he rejected over exactly
>>747110541>you know, back in my day you could just buy these things>also they had had laser rifles for sale more powerful than the finest laconian swords>it was a weird time
>>747110757We're knee deep in spoilers already, so lets go whole-hog.The tl;dr version is that the party wizard from the first Phantasy Star game figured out a way to kind-of live on after death by cramming a chunk of his soul and magic power in an orb and ~partially~ bodyjacking a willing volunteer, creating a mixture of the two. In the several millenia hence, he's done this six or seven times. That man's name? Lutz.
>>747093932It's completely rough around the edges, but I find the aesthetics and music appealing. I also like the system where you have kids and they become the next protagonists. It has lots of flaws but if you like the other games, play it.
>>747097093I highly disagree about PSOThe story and characters are subtle and indirect in PSO but I love themI really like the storytelling style Sega and Sonic Team were doing at the timeThey had a certain dark and mysterious tone that other games just can't match to mePSO's story is good in the same way as the Sonic Adventure games
>>747085093Anon...
>>747112039Sis?
>>747088852Bunny costume stays on during intimacy!
What does it matter. Everyone was dead in 2 when the planet explode, and dead dead when the clone fight the Earthling
>>747091797Still Would
>>747093932Mieu is pure sexo
>>747112662they survive the earthman fight. the official japanese novel goes past that point and ends with everyone escaping noah on tyler's spaceship.
>>747097474Did this inspire the 2nd generation mechanic for Genealogy of the Holy War?
>>747081313based zoomie
>>747081313Kill yourself, retard.
>>747084725Some amazing posts on that list anon, godspeed for keeping track of that stuff
>>747082686gundam takes a lot from star wars
>>747084725wait is #5 true?I'm pale white italian american with black hair...
>>747082283>>747089282>>747114474I think you guys don't understand how ridiculous what you're saying isStar Wars primary influence was classic samurai kino especially Kurosawa movies specifically The Hidden Fortress which you could argue Star Wars directly ripped off almost the entire plot of that movieOriginal trilogy Star Wars is mostly Dune crossed with a 50s samurai movie then the prequels take a heavy biblical turnThe Jedi are literally space samurai and Darth Vader is a space shogun commanding nazisThen it takes some of Dunes aesthetics and themes and honestly just kinda dumbs them downPeople exaggerate the influence of medieval fantasy on Star Wars when the connection is vague at best just because Star Wars follows a typical hero's journey style plot and there's swords I guessBut overall Star Wars has much less in common with Lord of the RingsBasically stuff like Phantasy Star and Gundam is just Japan taking back what was theirs in the first placePhantasy Star did obviously ripoff some Star Wars character designs though but only in the first game
>>747109109The proto-/v/irgin
>>747115076biblical? the prequels are just a distorted retelling of the roman republic turning into an empire
>>747081313>all those mad unccelsyou aight, zoomie
>>747115076>Star Wars primary influence was classic samurai kinoNo it fucking wasn't you know nothing weeb. Star Wars = Buck Rogers and all sorts of other 30s serials. I mean it's fucking ridiculous that you don't even mention the obvious fucking pulp sci-fi influence of Star Wars once. You're a moron!
>>747115076Gundam was directly influenced by Starship Troopers and Star Wars. The creators stated this many times and Sunrise even went on to make a Starship Troopers OVA.
>>747116756The influence of pulp sci-fi on Star Wars I think is superficial at bestThere is no trace of that tone in Star Wars it takes itself far too seriously and there is little similarity in structure or charactersAlthough weirdly you could argue that modern Star Wars has now become more reminiscent of that
>>747081327Heh...
>>747117292>The influence of pulp sci-fi on Star Wars I think is superficial at bestOh shut the fuck up. >Although weirdly you could argue that modern Star Wars has now become more reminiscent of thatjfc you have no idea what you're talking about. Don't talk about shit you have zero experience with. Fuck off back to reddt.
>>747117372It seems obvious to me that the modern Star Wars tv shows are a lot closer to classic serialized sci-fi shows than any of the moviesI mean movies are basically the antithesis of a serialized showWhen I'm watching a Star Wars movie at no point am I thinking to myself wow this reminds me of Flash Gordon and Buck Rodgers, partly because I'm not 100 years old and partly because it simply doesn't
>>747117745>It seems obvious to meWho cares what seems obvious to an idiot. You don't know anything about the subject and you have sufficiently low IQ to pretend that you do. Dangerous, very annoying mix.
>>747103847her VN story is one of the best of them all
>>747118071nice filter
>>7470822832nd game was ass too and the first game was incredibly mid with some kino moments chock full of soul that made the mid worth it.PS4 is the only original series game worth a damn.
>>747082929>there's no evil empireLiterally Lassic and his kingdom>rebel allianceLiterally Alis' brother who diedDid you play the fucking game?
>>747118462>a minor footnote in a single game in the entire series>HURRRPPP!! ITS LITERALLY STAR WARRSS HURRRRR!!!Are you gay AND retarded?
>>747118558Phantasy Star I is a fucking Star Wars clone. I'm not the anon claiming the whole series is one, but you'd have to have the density of a neutron star to think otherwise.Though, a lot of the light side/dark side shit is prevalent throughout the series and PSIV brings the influence back with all the chosen one bullshit
>>747118558He is. Yes.
>>747083797>PS>DefiledPS is now PSO and i think NGS already did the job in a way unless sega locks the fuck in and make a proper PSO3 next decade
