At home in water and on land, the Argonians of Black Marsh are well-suited to the treacherous swamps of their homeland, with natural immunities protecting them from disease and poison. The female life-phase is highly intelligent, and gifted in the magical arts. The more aggressive male phase has the traits of the hunter: stealth, speed, and agility. Argonians are reserved with strangers, yet fiercely loyal to those they accept as friends. Like the Khajiit, Argonians are limited to some headgear and no footwear.
>>747168679>>>/vg/
>>747168679Morrowind, Oblivion (remaster or not) and Skyrim are all GOTYAYs.
>>747168893Game Of The Year After Yesteryear?
>this is the journal entry for killing the ash vampire in MamaeaInteresting. I bet this means that he was originally going to go somewhere in red mountain, which would also explain why he's in such a strange spot in the cave.
>House Redoran prizes the virtues of duty, gravity, and piety. Duty is to one's own honor, and to one's family and clan. Gravity is the essential seriousness of life. Life is hard, and events must be judged, endured, and reflected upon with due care and earnestness. Piety is respect for the gods, and the virtues they represent. A light, careless life is not worth living. — Great Houses of Morrowind>House Redoran prizes the virtues of (...) gravityWhat did they mean by this?
>>747169296They like having their feet on the ground
>>747168954Game of the year all years.
>>747169296 gravity (countable and uncountable, plural gravities)Senses relating to seriousness:(uncountable) Of an activity such as a ceremony, a person's conduct, etc.: the quality of being deeply serious and solemn, especially in a dignified manner; seriousness, solemnity; (countable, archaic or obsolete) a serious or solemn thing, such as a matter, a comment, etc. [from early 16th c.] Synonyms: graveness, soberness, sobriety, weightinessAntonyms: flippancy, levity, unseriousness(uncountable) Of an activity, situation, words, etc.: the quality of having important or serious consequences; importance, seriousness. I hope you appreciate the gravity of the situation.(uncountable, obsolete) Authority, influence, weight; also, used as a title for a person with authority or influence
>>747169296it's ye olde terminology that basically means seriousness and such>A light, careless life is not worth living.
>Trying to join the Temple for once>Doing the mainland pilgrimagesSome of these are really neat. I've heard about Dunmer doing the bloodstone shrine pilgrimage in previous runs, but I never thought you could actually perform the ritual yourself.
>make funny vivec maymay>semen slurping redditor immediately inhales it for updootstruly a satanic website
>>747169296and I'll keep making that joke until some oldfag hopefully produces the original greentexttrainwiz was around in infinity /tes/ as well back in those days. I wonder if he remembers anything or is just a serious busy man now. I'm happy to see he still lurks. I'm sad about all of those lost discussions
>for being recognized as Hortator by:>Hlaalu, you needs you to convince, blackmail, or kill them.>Telvanni, waste your time with sometime admitively fun quests, sometime just annoying especially the waman (You can kill them.)>Redoran, you need to save the son of one of them, then they all accepts you, except for one of them who is an ultra dickRedoranbros...
>>747169296Keep your feet on the ground.
>>747170120ESLbro...
>>747169972The Cycle of Slop. Nature is beatiful.
>>747170120I just realized that we have a 4th House now.Does it mean that you can skip one of the three already existing Great Houses when you get to the Hortator step of the main quest?
>>747168679This render in the manual made Argonians my favorite Elder Scrolls race.
>>747170346in 2035 yes. there's two other ashlander tribes you can do currently though.
>>747170120I like how every single house doesn't give a crap about the hortator title/prophecy and treats it as some old novely, then just gives you the title if you do some errands for them so you can fuck off.
>>747170670Well, the Redoran WANT Dagoth Ur and whatever the fuck is happening gone. Some even admit to it. "Your story sounds crazy, but it doesn't matter. My Regga told me you could get shit done."
Truly a GREAT house...
>>747170120>the house which is taking the threat of the sixth house most seriously by far is also the one which is least hesitant to name a hortatorThis makes perfect sense
Some people might recall the momentary buzz caused in 2009 by a particularly odd Morrowind mod. The file name was 'jvk1166z.esp'. It was never posted on any of the larger Elder Scrolls communities, only smaller boards and role-playing groups. I know in a few cases, rather than being posted, it was sent via PM or email to a 'chosen few'. It was only up for a few days, to the best of my knowledge.
>>747169296>>747170117yeah i got the past dont fucking worry about it nwigga
>>747170848I havent met this lil nigga yet, wheres he hanging out
>>747170670>That one Telvanni woman who has utterly lost it, asks you about utterly insane shit and if you ask about being named Hortator she just replies with "WHAT? SURE, YOU CAN BE A HORBABOR" and you count it as a vote.
>>747170783I like how they are in TR as a particularly cucked Hlaalu (and former Redoran) family that even converted to the 9 divines religion
House Redoran is so cool, I cant wait for their content to be complete in...>checks watch2047
>>747170860>2016no fucking way it's this recent. obligatory 2016 is not in fact recentanyway I love you anon. got any more?
>>747170931in his lane, clearly
>>747170794They also live deep in it.
>>747171157Gives me plenty of time to do vanilla Redoran
>>747171157How do you have a watch that count the years.
>>747168679NOT A BIG FAN OF ARGONIANS(I actually play Argonians exclusively, but, even though it's by our oppressors, you can't deny it's got a catchy beat)
>>747170783after morrowind bethesda just sort of immediately forgot that the great houses are not supposed to be just generic feudal european noble families
>>747168679If you pay attention, you'll notice the Hist specifically engineered Argonians to satisfy every sexual need of Man. Chicks, Dudes, all of them. Perfection.
>>747171448honestly I'm surprised Redoran didnt just abolish the house and council system once they established they were the only house with balls left to swing aroundI guess they really have that much respect for tradition
It strikes me as odd that people actually like house Redoran. I've seen some nice Middle Eastern inspired artwork of whatever Dunmer chilling in a room surrounded by riches and whores and the tapestry is nice, but surely no one prefers the generic warrior faction that lives in bugs right?Conceptually is Telvanni is cooler and lorewise and as far as quest you get, Hlaalu are the most interesting. I guess if you really like Dunmer, Redoran is the most appropriate House. Still...
>>747168679Forget Argonians, I'm more curious about the Troxulgians.
>walking home after nearly losing my life to daedra, cliff racers, ash vampires, you name it>it's dark and the combat music is still playing>THE PRAY APPROACHES.What the FUCK is his problem? Next time he does that I'll kill him.
>>747171553>hlallu are a bunch of hand rubbing jews that only think about how they can profit off every situation and how they can fuck each other over to be at the top, also weird coomers>telvanni are a bunch of fedora tipping redditors that think theyre all 1000iq geniuses above everything, also weird coomers>redoran believe that people should be honest and generally good natured, fucking people over is bad, and anyone that cant face their enemies face to face is a coward faggot that deserves death, also the only ones that believe in house unityIts not complicated
>>747171553I play Redorn most of the timeTelvanni are the most fun, but their TR content is ass and I rarely play a mageHlaalu are just the /pol/ idea of what Jews are, and this is times ten in TRRedoran are some badass noble warriors who are backed into a corner and their attitude is "WE'VE HAD WORSE!" The only problem is they don't reward you with anything for quests, but considering 99% of quest rewards are worthless compared to dungeon loot who cares?
>>747170117>that picI'm actually playing through jvk1166z right now. I made it to the final room of the citadel with the floating paintings and locked door. I attempted to open the door with my custom open 100 pts amulet since it had a level 100 lock, but when I tried, the game took away all my weapons and armor, then the Assassin appeared behind me and insta killed me. I almost didn't get a screenshot of it since it caught me off guard. You can see a bit of the Assassin on the lower left of the picture. Looks like I can't cheese this mod and need to actually find the legit way to open the door.
>>747169195Mamaea is such an odd cave as whole, feels like it should have more lore explaining what the fuck they’re digging in there but nope.
>>747171742Thanks, I don't much go for fanfic. The Super Saiyan race mod is just as interesting.
>>747171553It takes a truly massive overhaul mod to make Ald'ruhn/house Redoran into a decent city. One or two good ones exist but as usual a massive part of the game is pretty shit without mods. But since the mods exist I will grade it as though the mod that makes it great comes standard. If it's possible to fix/improve something in Morrowind then I will grade the game as though it is fixed/improved because Bethesda, despite all their bad design choices, still decided put in the tools to fix their shit and encouraged players to do so.
>>747171767>hisPretty sure Hul is a femaleThough given the fact that Morrowind-era Argonians were heavily implied to be sequential hermaphrodites I guess that could change or was already the case at one point
>>747171553I like the ruggedness and the fact that they're mostly good guys, compared to the other houses. More of their quests involve helping people in need than screwing with rival nobles. "Duty, gravity, and piety" are also good words to live by in general.
>Morrowind gets rid of slavery, gets of the woke empire, gets rid of woke House Jewlallu, and the most fascist house takes charge>Morrowind golden ageReally making me think Todd
>>747171884fake, there isn't any 'p on the paintings
>>747172135>golden agehalf the province is in ruins and their greatest hero is dead and the mer that killed him said "fuck you guys I'm going to akavir"
>>747171884Wait wtf?
>>747172163The mod attempts to load shit for your pictures folder into the paintings. I keep all my pictures on a sperate hard drive, so the mod had nothing to load, resulting in the empty frames.
started some quest mod about jyggalag, looks coolhttps://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/53679
Retooling the Bard class a little, removing marksman, adding some magic schools like alteration and restoration, but I'm not sure on keeping medium armor? Better to swap out to light?
>>747170346Currently? No. That sort of things is reserved for the other Tribes in TR.
>>747172281I asked about it last thread, got no answers. Keep up me updated! Nice drip too!
>>747172234Only the most decadent parts of Morrowind were damaged, and theyre all being rebuiltMost importantly, they are independently ruled for the first time in 600 years
>>747170346No, the Indoril questline isn't complete enough to allow you to be named HortatorThey do hate you if you go talk to them during the part of the MQ when you're trying to be named Hortator though Vivec naming you Nerevarine drops the penalty and lets you get a specific item back from one of the questgivers
>>747172451You dare call that decadent?
>>747172557no, because blacklight wasnt in southern morrowind
>>747172502Nta but that'd be interesting actually, a Great House that outright refuses you to be Hortator.
>>747171769>also weird coomers>what is boethiah's pillow book>redoran believe that people should be honest and generally good natured, fucking people over is bad>what is hidden skooma>who is Varvur SarethiThey suffer from the same court drama but they're too backwards to matter. All the while in Hlaalu you help Curio ship a corrupt House Brother straight to the Imperial prison. You deal with much greater things.>are a bunch of fedora tipping redditors I mean I agree, but the le random egg stuff which people liked 15 years ago is the equivalent of your DUTY PIETY GRAVITY spouting today.>like the ruggedness and the fact that they're mostly good guysYeah I get that. I got the feeling that Hlaalu can be played as good guys but maybe only if you play as an Empire aligned Character (which is canonical).>Hlaalu are just the /pol/ idea of what Jews areYeah I don't get this at all. Ultimately you do away with the Tong adjacent people
>>747168845just going to hide your post instead ahahahaha
>>747172272I can tell from the pixel precision on the UI that it's just OpenMW.
>>747172672>All the while in Hlaalu you help Curio ship a corrupt House Brother straight to the Imperial prisonNice job dude, you helped Morrowind's Epstein get rid of a loose end
>>747172264lurk moar and some anon will PM it to you maybe
>>747172272so this was obviously a keylogger/worm right? Imagine letting something just randomly rummage around in your files OUTSIDE of the fucking game folder.
>>747172718Nope, I'm playing the vanilla GOTY edition with JVK1166z as the only mod loaded.
>>747172287looking at the vanilla bard the only thing i would do is put illusion as a major and restoration as a minor. light armor or no armor is a solid choice. i do also think marksman is a cool idea considering juggling is a common performance art. i don't think the vanilla bard leans into the jack of all trades pigeon hole. they should probably also have luck as a favored attribute for flavor.
>>747168893>Oblivion (remaster or not) and SkyrimNo. Fuck off.
>>747172135Redoran is the most boring house, most similar to regular medieval nobles/knights. Bethesda chickened out as usual. Going the lamest way for the nu-lore.
>>747172985Don't be mean.
>>747172759There is nothing wrong with appreciating the human/mer/beast folk form.You ever notice how if you kill him, all of the plays fucking suck and there's no nudity anymore and there's ugly Breton skanks and fucking Orismer are cast as Almalexia?
>>747172791Well there nothing in my laptop worth stealing. All my important information and files are on my desktop PC, completely separate from this Morrowind install. So I'm same from any bullshitery.
>>747173125all fun and games until you hear taps on your windowWTS
>>747173258I don't know what you're talking about anon, it's just a game. Nothing bad will happ
>>747171934IT is gonna get the fucking sword next time it does its spooky vampire shit, I know that muchMy brother actually convinced me that she was a vampire when I was a kid, the fucking faggot
>>747171553In a society plagued by cowards, degenerates, and the faithless, Redoran sticks out as the most interesting to me.
>just found out Jeremy Soule got mega cancelleddamn, theres 0 chance this series has any future
>>747172830Hmm... touche. But still I figured it out, you're using MCP with "UI display quality fix". You can't fool me, I compared it with a screenshot with the same resolution and the results give a 100% similarity. But I guess MCP could probably work with JVK because it's just an esp plugin and not a new executable, lol.
>>747173371actually kekked out loud. i gues picrel is the closest thing I could find to a candleja
Are there mods to make the world feel more active and alive? Every NPC just standing around waiting to be talked to kills Morrowind for me. Even if its just them doing a basic idle animation like swinging a hammer on a wall, it does so much for making the world feel alive. Skyrim/oblivion did the bare minimum but it was one of the things it did that improved immersion.
>>747173715Fucking finally. I was sick of being locked to Morrowind.
>>747173715That's cool but where Skyblivion and Skywind and Skyrimrim?
when my game crashes and then my PC crashes and I lose an hour of gameplay and all my vacation photos:>Pragmatic recognition of the difficulties this will bring, but otherwise calm as a Temple hermitvs.When I get the wrong Goddamn fruit at the store after being stuck behind a school bus the whole way there:>MY SOUL IS PAINED. INVOKE AND RELEASE ME FROM ANGUISH AND SUFFERING
Keep moving
>>747173464the type of shit a 16yo tradcath is liable to say
>>747173516I don't understand why "canceling" someone means that their work is also shit. Sometimes the two are correlated, but... how is videogame instrumental music related to whatever accusations he has against him? Are women afraid of the swelling woodwind section? Does it evoke the evil male penis?
I could kill that guar. Those boots are ruined.
>>747173953The type of a shit a 16yo reddit atheist is liable to say
I don't recall using teleportation, and yet there I was. Alone. Naked.
(sigh) eraseaharareahattheathathatha
Oh, please, Gods, don't let him start in on that 'solemn duty' crap again.
The blue plates are nice, but... the brown ones seem to last longer.
>>747174131Rayman sure look different when bald.
Plenty of time, my sweet. Plenty of time...
>>747168679What's /v/'s Argonian name?
>>747174287
>>747173814https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58635
You have my blessings, outlander. How about a potion today?
>>747174287Sees-many-things
Submit to the Three, the Spirits and thy Lords.
>>747174287Spits-on-Foids
>>747174287TzekatliHey, not every argonian has a [verb]-[adjective]-[noun] name you fucking bigot.
>>747174287Refreshes-Catalogue-Frequently
I know dark elves always attract edgy children but I wonder how popular Dunmer would be if they didn't have the best game in the series. I mean no one seems to give shit about the other mer although they're arguably more interested. Only furries and nerds care about Khajiit which is unfortunate. I personally hate argonians so I won't bring them up
>>747174580They don't have cringe Aztec-inspired names like those outside ESO either, non-verbose Argonians names have lots EEs and Us and EIs and names that end in L instead
>tfw looking through argonian names>see this>https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Morning-Star-Steals-Away-Cloudskino name
>>747174797Literally no Elder Scrolls race that has a game set in their province would be be popular if they didn't have it, if somebody got all their Nord knowledge from how nord NPCs are portrayed in Morrowind they'd think they are a meme joke race the same way people do to the Bosmer
>>747174797>what if the altmer had a game with a ton of lore about them instead of dunmerthen yeah theyd be more popularwhat a silly question
>>747174287Spreads-His-Cheeks
>>747168679I'm not a big fan of Argonians.
>>747174287I-Can't-Breath
The Elder Scrolls Adventures: A Dance in Fire
why is the enchanting menu so fucking dogshit and why hasn't anyone made a rework of it that's actually good
>>747174287Beats-His-Wife
>>747174923HAHAHA HAVE YOU SEEN ANY ELVES AROUND HAHAHA
>>747175481>SEEN ANY ELVESfunniest shit I've ever heard
>>747174580That's more of a Warhammer Lizardman name than an Argonian name.
>>747175367theres multipleno i wont spoonfeed you
>>747175787can't wait to see it in 2030
>>747168679Argonians would be better without the hist
>>747175816keyword is "good", lil gup
>>747175858>dont use the hist>invade morrowind >get btfohowd that work out for them
>>747175858>Argonians would be better without [literally the only thing keeping them from being goblin-tier]
>>747172376thanks, the new areas and items are cool but the esoteric lore stuff is confusing to me, I don't remember a lot of this stuff from Oblivion, would recommend playing it
>>747174610The Retardatification of the franchise you could say.
>>747176027
>>747175787>Blacklight comes out in 2037 after 10 trillion touch-ups of locations they already made>it's just a city on a flat plane (but with a new tileset) because the original was "not up to the teams standards"
>>747174287Dry-Around-the-Mouth
I just hope the Hammerfell and High Rock people hurry the fuck up so that Argonia can become a thing
>we get the dark ages blacklight instead of capital of morrowind blacklightgrim...
>>747174610Surlyn, Ashkhan of the Kwama Egg Fort
>>747176175some retard was bitching about how the Indoril exterior set is now "too good" and "not vanilla" after the devs say they're moving away from "not vanilla." So yeah expect even the new Indoril set to be reworked eventually.
>>747176610gonna need bigger eggs
>>747176615It isn't really, the interior is about on par with the Redoran interior
>>747174610Are any races in TES known for having cuisine that's considered "high-class and exquisite" besides Bretons?
>>747176812Khajiit. Meat with sugar is quite kino
>>747176862moon sugar?
>>747173996When reddit canceled factorio the game got dozens of negative reviews. Dozens!
>>747176812Bosmer
>>747176694behold: the reading comprehension of the average Nord
>>747176615>INB4 TR goes full circle and returns to the pre-OE design philosophy of just having mainland Morrowind be literally just the vanilla biomes spread over a larger area
>>747176615I still don't get it>Vanilla>Hlaalu - adobe houses>Redoran - crab houses>Telvanii - mushroom houses>Ancient Dunmer - strongholds>Indoril - ornate jade houses>Ancient Indoril/Mournhold - round stucco housesAnd then then they just go>Indoril - uhhh actually they use same building styles as the ancient indoril thousands of years ago and they only use the jade look in Mounrhold because....they just do ok???
>>747177057Almalexia/Mournhold was canonically destroyed in its entirety by Mehrunes Dagon and rebuilt from the ground up and their plan is for "metropolis-class" cities of which Almalexia will be one of only five in the whole continent of Tamriel to be massive and wholly unique aesthetically.
>>747177057where are the jade indoril houses in vanilla?
>>747177298>Almalexia will be one of only five in the whole continent of TamrielWhat are the other ones (besides Imperial City)
>>747176812i would probably get nibenese takeout every day. and those little shimmerine candies in the shapes of insects are really good but they never reach the market in one piece.
>>747177390Alinor, Wayrest, Senchal >inb4 "why Senchal i thought it was a stinky khajiit city"It is explicitly stated to be THE largest city in southern Tamriel in the Pocket Guide to the Empire, Khajiit aren't primitive ooga boogas
>>747177325
whats all the hullabaloo about indoril buildingsthey look cool whats the problem
>>747177953so it's just mournhold?
>>747177953>vanilla
Can you do most of mainland TR content without becoming to overleveled later on?Also why is the latest update called Poison Song but doesn't update the island of Gorne where said book series is set?
>>747178092So you didn't really know what you were asking?Or are you just baiting?
>>747178239Why didn't you reply to >>747177298 ?
>>747178226I mean, it most certainly does, setting aside the new architecture Gorne literally used to be on a completely different part of the map before Poison Song moved it next to Vvardenfell
>>747178226>Can you do most of mainland TR content without becoming to overleveled later on?Not without slow leveling mods. TR has more content than the vanilla game + both expansions.
>>747178270because they clearly know what they're talking about? Is everyone a retard but me?
>>747178226If you're playing with OpenMW or a mod that lets you skip levels then yes, because how much you level up is up to you. I've been sitting on level 20 for hours and hours now in my current playthrough. I'm probably something like 10+ levels behind>Also why is the latest update called Poison Song but doesn't update the island of Gorne where said book series is set?wdym? they added the island just off the coast of Vvardenfell in that update
>>747178386I don't understand why you're spamming images of Mournhold as if it's some kind of gotcha when the reason why it is different was already stated.
>>747177057Yes, and?
>>747178226buddy, you become overleveled just doing vvardenfell TR is like 5x the size, yes you'll become a god
>>747176812Cathnoquey food looks yum, wasabi and sea urchin meat
>>747178476Shut up that doesn't count. Delete right no.
>>747178398>>747178368Oh my bad. I saw this map and didn't see Gorne where I expected to (I didn't read the names).
>>747178467b-b-b-b-but where ar the jade??? wheres ajde??help where is jade Buildiungs??????>>747177325help how do I wipe my own asshow do I breath HELP HOW BREA
>>747168679Khajiit wife or Argonian wife?
>>747168845Its scent is unfamiliar
After playing the Indoril quests I actually do think the Tribunal tileset doesn't really fit them at all, it makes sense for a large wealthy capital city ruled by a vain goddess to look like that, but not a glorified priest that technically survives on donations' chapel-castle
>>747174287Drinks-Any-Booze
>>747178663You seem a little upset.
>>747178239>>747178476And the currently lived in Indoril cities should look like their thousand year ruins and not like Mournhold because...?
Nirn sure is pretty
>>747178836
>>747178836your painting is a little crooked
>>747178801because they weren't reduced to rubble at any point in the meantime? >why does the Pantheon look like a roman temple and not a gothic cathedral
>>747178226>called Poison Song but doesn't update the island of Gorne where said book series is set?lol they literally moved gorne to almost the middle of the mapcouldnt miss it if you tried
>>747178943I painted it on the bow of a crashed ship
>>747178801>Why do the old settlements of the Dark Elves, who live for hundreds of years, look the same after hundreds of years x2?>Why would the present generation of Indoril want to rebuild in the style of their revered ancestors, harkening back to the glory days of the House?Stumped me, bro!
>>747178724>Adoring FanBuilt for BMC
>>747178539what is this weeb shit
>>747178663I remember a scamp scaring the shit out of me the first time I played Morrowind. It was my first time going near a Daedric ruin and those look strange as is. Then I hear wohehehehe.mp3 play behind me and turn around to see That attacking. I had only played Skyrim before and didn't know these things existed. I found them so creepy.I had no weapons that could damage it and it killed me. :(
>>747179108h-hot
>>747179108https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRSeoV3wLXQ
>>747178539what kind of fucking psycho just chows down on pure wasabi paste
Blue plates or brown?
>>747179108this is a Troxulgia thread, not an Oblivion thread
>>747178539why does slurping down wasabi make me a god in combat
>>747179247A reincarnation of an elf.
>>747179296is that an actual part of troxulgiaI only got to the treetops village
>>747179296did you find any cool items
>>747179312Because you no longer fear death. You only fear the wasabi.
>>747179356>>747179296HOW MANY OF YOU ARE PLAYING THIS MOD
>MorrowindI can fuck a khajiit without mods>Oblivion, Skyrim, ESO onwardsI can not fuck a khajiit without modsConclusion: Morrowind is the best Elder Scrolls game.
>>747178954>Those cities just weren't destroyed, they look the same as thousands of years ago!>>747179018>Ok, they were destroyed but they rebuilt them to look 1:1!
>>747179493
>>747178745thisthe mournhold set is an extroverted "everybody look at how great i am!!!" kind of beautiful, while the TR indoril set actually looks beautiful in a serene and peaceful way, the type of place you'd silently pray and ponder the fate of your once-great house in
>>747179451I just got back from work and I think I sequence broke things by going to the village earlier than expected
Is there any mod that fixes the Weapon-switch Crash (described here: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Glitches) without needing to use OpenMW?
>>747179296TROXULGIA > TRanny Rebuilt#TroxulgiaSweep #TroxullionDLsOnNexus #VibeCoderPower
>>747179542Not him, but cities in real life change due to necessity, often indeed from things like destruction brought about by war, or due to pressure from societal developments; there are indeed many places around today whose partially or fully look the same as they did in historical times, usually because they're way out in the country and/or there was no demand or reason for knocking everything down and rebuilding it all in a modern style.In TR, Indoril settlements (the majority of which aren't even cities, but rather castles/manor/strongholds) are not major trade spots, have little influence from the outside world, and have not been affected by any war. The only way they would change over time is if they deliberately decided to destroy their own shit just to emulate Almalexia, which sure, could happen, but isn't really logical, given the fact it would logically cost a fair bit of money and labor. Overall, you're basically saying "why does Buckingham Palace look like something from the 1700s? The british royal family should just upgrade it into one of those skyscrapers at the City of London!"
>I....I CANT STEAL FROM TOMBS....ITS IMMORAL!!!If families didnt want their tombs robbed they wouldve setup better protections
>>747180293If you attack me I get to take your stuff. Ghosts, skellies, and bonewalkers in the tombs attack me so I get to take their stuff. Simple as
>>747178801>>747179542diff fag but what are you even fucking talking about? do you even know? have you even played it? or is your homosexuality just acting up again?your bitching is completely nonsensicalthere is countless exs in-game of dunmer living in similar, or even the exact fucking same, buildings as millennia ago>velothi towers>ashlanders huts>redoran crabs>telvanni mushroomsits actually the norm, not the exception, that dunmer live in the same shit as their ancestors. its basically their religion. and with indoril, its a core tenant of their house, to uphold traditions.even more nonsensical is the fact that, uf you actually look at the new TR towns, they dont actually look identical in the first place. they look based on mournhold buildings. they arent the same tho. not at all. they use quite a few entirely new assetsso i get the feeling you didnt actually play the game and are just a faggot who should kys himselfyou should work on that sometime
ive stolen so many fucking gems from daedric shrines and i still get jumpscared by the dremora every fucking time
>>747168679I really miss back when renders like these were the height of graphic fidelity. There really is nothing quite like the early 2000's low-photorealism fidelity
>>747179670So I take it it's like Morrowland: weird schizo jank that ends up being enjoyable because of it?
>>747180484I turn around at lightning speed after every gem I pick up even if I don't hear anything
>>747180506it's AIslop jank, which I guess is a digital form of schizophrenia.It is just weird enough to make me want to keep playing and when I was unzipping the data files I saw a couple asset names that REALLY intrigued me
>>747180484i got a plan for a daedra farm>hall of false keys>in the basement>in the room with lava>pile cursed gems in the corner against the wall>position myself with the lava to my back>???????>PROFIT
>>747180923sheogorath would approve
>>747174797I played Skyrim first and still became a dunmerboo
>>747179356>>747179451
>>747168679>The coolest race in Elder Scrolls>Constantly getting fucked over in loreAt least they aren't orcs but holy fuck it feels bad being an argonian fan.
>>747179542So you didn't understand I was posing two different hypotheticals to help your grasp of Indoril lore? How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning, anon?
>>747181256It's the Star Forge
>>747179108>>747179228
>>747179886>>747179556>>747180230
>>747181306>The coolest race in Elder Scrolls>Constantly getting fucked over in lorethat's dunmersince morrowind and kirkbride being fired they've been shit on HARD by every game and book
>>747181256This is what cowardly vanilla purists on the TR team took from you. The TRVE canon is before your very eyes.
>>747181256man where the fuck are these raptor eggs
>>747168679For the little things I'm so glad Morrowind is deemed to old for Bethesda or M$ to bother doing an Ocarina of Time hackjob remake for it
>>747181256i thought this was sotha sil expanded for a sec
>>747180230>Overall, you're basically saying "why does Buckingham Palace look like something from the 1700s? The british royal family should just upgrade it into one of those skyscrapers at the City of London!"The Pantheon and the Buckingham palace are singular historical buildings. By your logic London should look the exact the same it looked after the fire because it wasn't sacked or destroyed after that.
Yo what the fuck, Vedam Dren doesn't want to make Grandmaster and Curio doesn't want to, he just tell me to go to Narsis.
>>747180575Morrowind... in SPACE!
>>747181403Morrowind getting fucked is by Kirkbride's request who didn't want other to "play with his toys." With Kurt Khulmann (MK's bff and skyrim lead) gone, dunmers might start getting wins.
>>747178539The reincarnation of an elf who is an expy of King Arthur, who will pilot a giant mecha, die, achieve infinite power but won't cheat to beat another giant mecha.
>>747178724>furry bitch that shits everywhere, is always ODing and will leave you if you don't murder someone or get her a constant supply of crack.>An autistic woman with a permanent chainsmoker voice despite not touching a cigarette in her life.Why the fuck would I ever go for the khajiit?
>>747181556I can't blame him. You see what they did to literally everything, including the Nords?
>>747181524If you have TR installed I think it messes this up because I had the same problem and had to use console commands to fix it.
>>747181556dunmer have been getting wins for awhilethe most corrupt house was eradicated to the last man, any survivors were scattered to shitholes like skyrimredoran is ascendant and has one of the most powerful armies on the continent nowalso the nords and redorans are bffs now
>>747181550>Masser Surface>Interior
>>747181645So it's a bug, or just a feature?
>>747180485gfx just dont matter in the first place. if the games not good, the gfx arent saving it. MWs gfx actually looked pretty bad for its day. didnt matter tho, because they still did exactly what they were supposed to do, which was let you fuck around in vvardenfell
>>747181513>because it wasn't sacked or destroyed after that.It was the largest and most economically important city in the world through the 18th, 19th and early 20th centuries, that's part of the "societal developments i talked about". And London did get bombed quite a bit during the World Wars.Also, like i said, the Indoril settlements in TR outside Almalexia and Akamora are all meant to be really big private estates, not cities, so yes they're arguably closer to Buckingham Palace than London.
>>747181556considering what they did in ESO it makes sense.He wasn't thorough enough, he should've said the Red Year rippled through time and destroyed the Dunmer in the past as well, retroactively, so only the sliver of time he wrote about still exists
>>747181486I think they're here...
>>747168679>At home in water and on land, the Argonians of Black Marsh are well-suited to the treacherous swamps of their homelandthey're actually at home and well-suited in cages.
>>747181509That's a little insulting, I try to at least add some lighting to my stuff.
>published in '93>elven city that gets destroyed called MorrowindlSo that's where they got the name.
total argonian tactical genius
>>747181306At least they had two glorious moments post Morrowind. Kicking Daedra ass and forcing them back to hell, and having a (admittedly short lived) invasion of Morrowind. Dunmer didn't get fucking shit except becoming the Elder Scrolls equivalent to Syrian migrants.
We were robbed
OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
Are you more of a kick in the front door guy or cheeky roof entry kinda guy
>>747181951>Kicking Daedra ass and forcing them back to hellIs this really a cool achievement when literally every single race on Tamriel did this
>>747181306The entire appeal of Argonians is the fact they're weak primitives on the surface but also secretly very knowledgeable servants of a scary alien hivemind deep down, wanting them to be le badass by themselves is kinda missing the point
>>747181993>"Vivace" was realholy shit...
>>747182027cheeky roof entry every time
>>747182020Spooky.
>>747182020Why do they have a dorito in their eye?
>>747181782Nothing new under the sun.>The Eternal Champion - Michael Moorcock.>Hammerfell - Marion Zimmer Bradley. >Valenwood - Dragonlance Chronicles>Nibenay - Dark Sun
>>747179312>>747179247Nords. It's from MK originally (Seven Fights of the Aldudagga and PGE2). They grow it in Cathnoquey, line their shields with it, and bite it off when they want to chimp out.https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Tamriel_Data:Wasabi_Roothttps://www.imperial-library.info/content/towards-dragond-sea-cathnoquey
>>747182081>Imperials invaded Oblivion itselfThat one was guy, aka the hero of Kvatch, and he wasn't necessarily an imperial. As far as I'm concerned, he was an Argonian
>>747182027...You are a genius! I know what I will do next time!
>>747176812>known for having cuisine that's considered "high-class and exquisite" >besides BretonsUhhhhh, since when have Bretons been known for that?
>>747181713I really have no clue I dunno if its an issue with TRfactions itself or user error because the load order is somehow wrong even though I used a load order sorter. It's been about 6-8 months since I played TR or modded Morrowind im general
>>747181993nod rlywith TR we have more of that now than we dont
>>747182027>hit tilde>click on door>disable>save game>hit tilde>click stronghold wall...
>>747182081One specific guy did it and he was the protagonist which makes him Elder Scrolls Jesus. If a group of people are the equivalent to that then yeah that is an achievement.
>>747181993also ALL of vvardenfell being ashlands seems like itd be a bit much
>>747182403actually the bruma guard does it too
>>747181993I wonder where the prisoner was originally meant to be dropped off
>>747182081The Imperials sent one guy and a few bodyguards to close down the Oblivion Gates behind enemy lines, while the Hist-powered Argonians are supposed to have straight up overwhelmed the Daedra militarily. Also, not really on that second point, both the Dunmer and the Altmer are explicitly described as having gotten their asses kicked by the Daedra pretty badly and no one bothered describing what the other races did in detail at all, other than Kirkbride's original plan for the aftermath of the Oblivion Crisis in Valenwood, which was for the Bosmer to have mostly gone extinct after doing a race-wide Wild Hunt out of desperation, but Bethesda didn't wanna do something that drastic so it didn't become canon.
>>747182446Would be kino if the platforms fell into the water after you jump from them
>>747182384>go up to my neighbor's house>"I BREATHE NOW, IN ROYALTY, AND RESHAPE THIS LAND WHICH IS MINE">delete his fucking walls >"I DO THIS FOR YOU, RED LEGIONS, FOR I LOVE YOU">he's used to this by now so he just yells to put it back already
>MY LE HECKIN ARGONIANS INVADED OBLIVION AND F*CKED UP THE DAEDRAThe only evidence of this is a single account by a single argonian that lived through none of this and is repeating a talking point from an Argonian supremacy government You were literally duped because you think lizards are sexy
>>747182380According to Google AI, because that's a thing now.>In Tamriel Rebuilt, Duke Vedam Dren no longer makes you Grandmaster of House Hlaalu; instead, that process is handled on the mainland in Narsis by Ereven Peronys and the local councilors as part of the Hlaalu Grandmaster questlineSooo, hey guys? Could talk about it, confirm it, or something?
>>747182508I bet ebonheart
>>747182081To put this into perspective imagine you are a victim of a home invasion. If you were an imperial you would run to the back of your house scared pissing and shitting yourself begging for the invader not to blow your head off while shakily calling the police. The argonian on the other hand beats the home invader within an inch of their life and when the home invader escapes, the argonian follows them all the way to their home and beats the crap out of the home invader and their family while also destroying their house for good measure.
thoughts on these things
>>747182027i like to sneak up and have a chat with the named dagoths before i kill them
>>747182626https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Tamriel_Rebuilt:Hlaalu_Grandmaster
>>747182712I hate their weird looking feet
>>747178372>>747178398>>747178504This is why we need level scaling.
>>747182447That was the original concept of it, it was simply called the Black Isle, and it was basically a giant volcanic wasteland. (that somehow has some towns on it) That's how it is in Arena, "Firewatch" is named such because it's the closest place to the fires of Dagoth Ur (the volcano, the guy was not invented yet)I think the name Vvardenfell was invented later for PGE1
>>747182623Except that Kirkbride described it as something that factually happened, with he and Kurt Kuhlmann specifically envisioning it as "The Hist's response to the Oblivion Crisis"If it makes you feel any better, they were only able to do it because of the evil trees they're an extension of, not because of their wholesome reddit lizard power
>>747182832>weNah, kys
To add onto how obviously fraudulent the Argonian claims during the Oblivion crisis are, despite the Dunmer getting raped back to back with two crisises in a row, Black Marsh invaded Morrowind and only got this far before a single house pushed them all the way back home, and they didnt even succeed in wiping out House Dres Liggers are incompetent retards propped up by furries with 80 IQ
>>747182771Holy shit that high hlaalu amulet is broken
>>747182890that's not true though, they got as far as tel vos according to the one diary from Skyrimalso>"only" this far>literally a third of the province, including its capital, agricultural heartland, and financial heartlandholy cope
>>747182876>Except this fanfiction says otherwise
>>747182817they do look weird
>>747182678In other wordsOnce the Oblivion Crisis happened every argonian turned into Doomguy
>>747182890Dialogue in Skyrim says Argonains had patrols has far north as the Skyrim-Morrowind border
>>747171553Way back in the early 2000's everyone fucking hated Hlaalu and either repped Telvanni (for being weird/fun/magic) or Redoran (for being moral/warriors.) Telvanni was the most popular by far but Redoran types were only mocked in good humor, while Hlaalu were considered dirty shits.
>>747182209No, he was clearly a kleptomaniac khajit that only went in the gates to steal more stuff which happened to include the sigil stones
>>747183048Can they not wear boots?
>>747183016>that's not true though, they got as far as tel vos according to the one diary from SkyrimAnd as far as Vivec according to the shitty novels>>747183031It was Kurt Kuhlmann's idea and he was a Bethesda employee all the way until 2023, thus making it objectively canon though (and Kirkbride was doing contract work for Bethesda at the time so it would have been canon anyway)
>>747183125Go ahead and post this quote
>>747182890Lizards on their own are one thing. Lizards empowered by the Hist feeling threatened by a unique threat and made into a single minded attack blob is another thing. Even Tiber Septim didn't bother going deep enough into Black Marsh to actually contend with the Hist.
>>747182817>>747183048They are supposed to be vestigial hands which most great apes have except humans which turned into just feet.
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>>747183202Because he literally didnt need to AND got terms on his favorMorrowind had the same issue and they got near total self-rule
>>747183158nope they can'tAlso the males cannot wear helmets cause of their funny head shape
>>747182771So it's a feature. Thanks goodness. Got scared for a moment.>>747182897>high hlaalu amulet?Constant Effect:Sanctuary Sanctuary 75 pts on SelfResist Magicka Resist Magicka 50% on SelfFortify Personality Fortify Personality 20 pts on SelfWell okay then. We know where Helseth got his toy. I wonder what the other houses will have.
>>747183195>Delvin: "Puttin' together another shipment from Morrowind, Vekel. Lookin' for anythin' special?">Vekel the Man: "Well, if some Moon Sugar should fall into your lap...">Delvin: "Maybe. That stuff's gettin' tough to bring across the border with all the Argonian patrols.">Vekel the Man: "Well if it turns up, I'll be willing to buy."
>>747183235oh thats pretty cool
>>747183235I know but the character models look goofy due to the feet. I wish they could at least cover them up and didn't have the beast race debuff for boots/shoes (to be fair I think there is a setting to turn it off in the scripts menu)
>>747181773>no tripYou're not fooling anyone, faker.
>>747182712I like how the males sound like Tony Jay
>>747171448Game of Thrones and its consequences have been a disaster to fantasy
>>747183147Hlaalu gaining fans purely happened because of TR, and purely by chance. They merely decided to do Telvanni first, then the quality improved when they worked their way around the mainland, and it just so happened the renaissance of TR came when they hit Hlaalu areas. So now we've had like ten years of Hlaalu kino.Kragenmoor will be their finale. Then the 20 year long Redoran-Indoril DP will begin.Dresbros will starve until the end of time.
>>747183315this says nothing about the skyrim border with morrowind you stupid cunt kekFurries really are the biggest retards
>>747182626its probably a good thing dren doesnt handle it anymore. he seems kinda out of it.i remember if you clicked the right dialogue options he used to promote you to grandmaster immediately, even if you were already in some other house entirely. i remember that happened to me once by accident and i was so fucking confused lolthe redoran didnt stand a chance with double grandmaster nerevarine coming for em
We’re never getting a game this good and deep again are we? I’m going to have to just start reading books
>>747183451You can always play Daggerfall.
>>747183450That was more like a buf iirc. A very funny bug.
>>747182446Oh, so that's what the mod author meant when he said there were platforming elements.
>>747172790or you could stop being a s'wit and link it yourself https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/52383
>>747183386I've... never had a trip, anon.
>>747183445>Shipment from Morrowind>Needing to cross a border>Destination is Skyrim.Jeez I wonder which border its talking about.
>>747183451In terms of Elder Scrolls or just in general?Because if it's the former then absolutely notIf you mean the latter then there are plenty of rpgs that are just as good as Morrowind though they prioritize different things
>>747183158>>747183284You can disable that in the config settingsexpect hats to clip
>>747183607Where is moon sugar sourced from you blithering faggot
>>747183048>>747183158They should be able to wear a second pair of gloves.
>>747183451Skyrim came out in 2011. Only people with only a surface level of understanding of both games think they're different and not a direct succession.
>>747183663Elsweyr
>>747183727And how would it get to Skyrim
>>747183431I can only hope that Hlaalu fandom will die along with the final release of Hlaalu wank content.
>>747183451books are for fag
>>747168679test
>>747183771Are people fans of Hlallu unironically? They have good quality content but the missions are all about how much you can out-jew house Indoril or manipulate the overly honest Redorans
>>747183663There is no border between Elsweyr and Black Marsh. The shipment is from morrowind so they're clearly using Morrowind as an inbetween which could be for a billion reasons.
>>747183724Hilariously wrong, but feel free to elaborate on that.
>>747182712i was under the impression that imga were supposed to be very small, monkey-sized monkey ppl, not ppl-sized monkey pplso i think they look pretty silly
>>747183898Wow youre actually too stupid to liveYeah I guess it just magically teleports to Morrowind kek, seek suicide
>>747182567kekaroooo
>i swear bro the argonians totally invaded the oblivion gatesMay we see them?
>>747182626God fuckign damn it. So the two-house glitch is """""""patched"""""" by TR?
>>747183936Why the fuck? The one piece of lore describing them says (and shows) they are fuck huge gorilla people with deep baritone voices
>>747183669seconding thisi would unironically main gambolpuddy on my feet
>>747183937Ever heard of ships nigga. No one would travel Black Marsh from land to get to Morrowind. You can cope a million ways but the dialogue clearly implies that the border in question is the Skyrim Morrowind Border.
>>747171002It's a completely sensible reaction when you're a wizard that has lived long enough he'd seen the chimer change to dunmer. Who the fuck cares if this nobody is the hortator? Okay, will we get our skin colour back? No? Fuck you. Granted, Therana was completely nuts, but Divayth Fyr was not that much different in his approach and he was old enough to have lived during those days.
>>747184062just use a console command bwo
>>747183867I like them.
>>747184062Sadly. There are mods to join multiple houses but...
>>747184096yup, and the ARGONIANS have no way to patrol waterYou are the stupidest nog brained nigga in existence
>>747183281He just wrote off conquering the inner Black Marsh like everyone else does. He never actually incorporated the interior into the Empire. No presence in there or anything, not even a single scouting party to see if there's anything valuable.
>>747183937>Nigger never heard of boats and shipping waypointsLet me guess you are from one of those countries that completely destroyed traintracks once the British left?
>>747174287Walks-on-Ashes
>>747184237https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Argonian_Account,_Book_4You're incredibly wrong
>>747184227Argonians do have boats. In fact they are the primary means of travel in Black Marsh although ferrys are used for the interior and larger ships are for the exterior.
>>747183031Both Kirkbride and Kurt Kuhlmann were working for Bethesda at the time. And the concept, which they came up with together, evidently made it to canon. You're literally the one imposing your fanfiction upon the author's will in this case.
>>747184227There can't be talking about water border nigga, those don't exist unless there's been some maritime border treaty between Argonia and Elsweyr.Also why the fuck would Argonians care about moonsugar just passing through its waters.You are just reaching for excuses trying to invalidate the obvious interpretation of that dialogue.
>>747183569Bullshit! Don't Mandela effect me, bitch.
>>747184535Why would they care about it going to Skyrim?Youre actually just so stupid you make up arguments that defeat your own point, Furries really are the most braindead humans alive
>>747184609>Why would they care about it going to Skyrim?Because thats what the dialogue is fucking implying dumbass
>dunmerboos got so mindbroken by years of getting made fun of by secondary scalies they themselves are now appealing to the sanctity of licensed Bethesda™ canon© in-game/in-novel material kek
>>747183771The Hlaalu are fun to play as in the game, but I can't imagine thinking they're the best house for MorrowindThey are unbelievably corrupt, not even in the "they like money" way but in the way that their laws and institutions barely even exist, they are intertwined with and in some cases indistinguishable from ordinary criminals and bandits.I always saw the history of Morrowind as having some analogies to Asian history, as a self-important eastern land suddenly forced open by western invasion. In that sense the Hlaalu are like a late Chinese dynasty close to collapse, the corruption is so deep the officials and criminals are the same and nothing matters but whoever has money.Putting the red year aside, I'd predict their future is a warlord era where gangsters with military power and official titles split up the land into petty fiefs.The Indoril are more like the Japanese shogunate, they are in denial that times have changed, but authority is still strong, so if the right leader takes power there's still a chance for reform from the top down.Unfortunately the center of gravity for their house is Mournhold so Almalexia has to get the fuck out of the way and die for this.
>>747183937>Wow youre actually too stupid to livethe irony is palpableyou know they have boats and ports and actual literal fucking teleportation in TES games right? do you think all drugs just get carried by land everywhere? why? that doesnt even make any sense in the real world, nvm a place like tamriel. theyre obviously going to ship large quantities of things by sea, because thats the best tech they have for shipping large amounts of cargo.morrowind has also ALWAYS been a major surgar hotspot, because morrowind is where skooma first thit the streets. so of fucking course theyre gonna have a lot of sugar to sell, theyve been in the skooma trade for literal ages
morrowind threads are now at their uncomfy phase, time to go into hibernation for the next 6 months
>>747184372>Oblivion>Skyrimnot canon
>>747177554>Nords, Redguards, and Bosmer are too unimportant and backward to have any large, significant citiesI bet nowhere in Skyrim will even be Narsis-sized.
>>747184785was there ever a phase in morrowind threads where a bunch of anons weren't shitflinging about conflicting canon written by multiple people?
>>747184785>missing out on peak Troxlugia contentlol your loss retard
>>747184757Yeah its honestly comical how shitty, corrupt, and morally bankrupt the entire house is
>>747184808Morrowind fucked Elder Scrolls canon just as much as Oblivion and Syrim did and if Todd didn't tard wrangle Kirkbride then it would have more than both of them combined.
>>747183936No, Imga should just look like regular gorillas (who also happen to shave their own body hair and wear garish clothing). They shouldn't be so weirdly human-shaped like they are in the mod. That's the actual silly-looking thing about their model, the entire body shape just looks wrong and uncanny.
>>747184768Not reading your brainlet slop
>>747168679Damn I thought that was an argonian with a guitar. What a let down.
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/60104based or cringe?
>>747184904Id prefer if the Troxlugia anons were documenting their exploration more thoroughly
>>747185000Everything Morrowind fans accuse Skyrim/Oblivion of doing, Morrowind did 100x worse to Daggerfall.Despite everything radical fans of one of 3 games thing, you can easily tell they were made by the same team (mostly) with the same design philosophy (mosyly)
>>747185093This, less arguing and more blogposting
>>747185154Name 5 GOOD things from Arena/Daggerfall that Morrowind retconned
>>747185057>https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/60104From the examples shown, I'll say cringe. The only way to make it based is if every perk also balances out with crippling disadvantages
>>747185093>>747185169I'm finding I'm inbetween the schizo rambling and the weird shit right now so there's not much to show
>>747185210I NEED MY LANGUAGE SKILLS BROSAND MY CLIBINGI WANT TO CLIIIIIIIIIIIIIMBAND I WANT TO GRAB THINGSGRAB MODE IS IMPORTANTAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>747185057Most of them just seem like you get stronger for free so I don't see what the point issome of them are funny>Subdue (Requires: 50 Hand-to-Hand, 40 Speechcraft): Knocking an enemy unconscious with your fists calms them for a few seconds, giving you a chance to talk them down. A successful intimidation lowers their willingness to fight. Can trigger once per target every 30 seconds.CALM DOWN *WHACK* STOP RESISTING *SMACK*
>>747184063yea i mustve just blocked it out because i think it, and jungle cyrodiil itself, is fucking stupidfor once im glad todd cut something
>>747185093Speaking of Warband, has anyone here played their Iliac Bay mod?
>>747185284Language skills are based though, I'd love that to make a comeback>100 in Dunmeris causes all instances of nwah to be replaced by nigger
>>747185000>>747185154Misinformed secondary opinions. Morrowind simply continued where Redguard left off. In reality, Redguard and Morrowind are the two TES games with the absolute fewest lore changes between them.Also, Arena/Daggerfall lore developed into Battlespire lore, which was straight up terrible and it's a good thing most of it got retconned.
>>747185284https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/49870
>>747185350Dunmer are the black ones, so it would most likely translate as cracker
>>747185319Imga are not in Cyrodiil, dumb lorelet.
>>747185370Is it good?
>>747185370>>747185430it's not good.
>>747185003They needed to do that to have them be an interactable race that can actually wear clothes and have dialogue and stuff, otherwise they'd be creature NPCs like sload
>>747183867do you always play characters that are exactly you irl?sounds boring and autistic
>>747185392yeah but they hold on to their white chimer heritage
>>747185210>Removed 1 school of magic>Changed Cyrodill's Terrain>Fewer skills>Fewer Factions>Removed Lycantropy from base gameWait a minute... this is sounding familiar...
>>747185319They're from Valenwood tho, and they're said to still exist in ESO despite not actually showing up in the game, they went on a cosmic vacation with the walking tree cities (yes, that's really the excuse they used)
You know, I've often wondered, what the fuck were the devs meant by this? You can't share the heart, you can't complete Akulakhan. You can't have any secret plans with the Heart, so what is the point? Is this some meta message?
>>747185353tbf Morrowind actually retconned a lot about redguard lore but it was all positive such as the Yokudan creation myth and giving them an actually distinct pantheon.
>>747185656>ESO
>>747185093We're not allowed, anon. The author has sworn us to secrecy under pains of ancient curses...
>>7471856293 out of 5 of those aren't even retcons you stupid nigger
>>747185603lol so they're this guy basically
>>747185442As expected sadly.
>>747185741Still they clearly show that the design philosophies of all three games were the same.
>>747184757>The Hlaalu are fun to play as in the game, but I can't imagine thinking they're the best house for Morrowindthey are when im an imperial and see the dumbner are a wretched, backwards, arrogant race of subhumans that deserve subjugation
>>747185703You don't get to pretend to be above ESO while liking Oblivion Cyrodiil buddy. Anyway, they're also mentioned in a lot of Morrowind generic dialogue and probably at least a line or two in both Oblivion and Skyrim. The point is, they're obviously still canon, Todd didn't "cut" them. Also, what the fuck makes you think talking small monkeys is any less stupid than talking big monkeys?
>>747185210My wife Ariella, we were robbed of a kino arc where she atones for giving Jagar Tharn the idea to kick off the whole mess
>>747185697watch bethesda absolutely rape their lore in elder scrolls 6its not even a matter of will theyits a matter of how
>>747185883DELETE THIS
>>747185978100% they will reference Black Lives Matter
>>747185883Based Imperial hero carrying the light of civilization to the ignorant dark elves
>>747185527
>>747185937good news, she's probably going to show up in PT someday as a hermit living on an arctic island in the padomaic
>>747168893
>>747186020should be knife ear lives matter given how the redguards treat elven scum.
Ocato was the Eternal Champion
>>747186020Microsoft won't allow it unless TES6 is expected to release in 2029
>>747185697>the Yokudan creation myth and giving them an actually distinct pantheonBoth of those were already present in development. Things like the creation myths and pantheons weren't necessarily explained to the player until Morrowind, but they were written in advance for Redguard.
>>747185978At this point I wouldn't care. I'm gonna find ES6 much more funny than infuriating. I'm just not invested in the series any more
>>747185603Chimer were yellow.
>>747186271I have a fool's hope that it can be good, because Starfield's main problems were the terrible setting and being a procgen/loadscreen fest in space, while a TES game should have neither of those problems
>>747186271WOW You're so cool for not caring
>>747185883Based and MANkind pilled.
>>747186278honourary whites
>>747185430Its pretty fun, it gives you a nice physical alternative to getting around without levitate/jumpIts only somewhat janky
>>747186336You're looking at the superficial ways that Starfield was different but you're ignoring the consistent throughline of rancid shit flowing from Skyrim to Fallout 4 to Starfield. It's over bro.
>>747186271>>747186336SIXTEEN TIMES THE LOADING SCREENS
>>747185690Would be interesting to see a mod that allows you to tap on the power of the heart as an alternate ending but I don't know how you'd deal with Dagoth in that case
>>747186415Chinese you meant.
Is En Garde any good?
>>747185978>>747186020It's going to become Wakanda.
>>747185978That'll happen with the inevitable TV show.
>>747186496Fallout 4 was good though. Not as an RPG but it was a good game.
>>747186494I don't know what to think anymore. Is it better than this mod? https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58063
>>747186642Bruce Nesmith (Skyrim's Lead Designer) said there won't be an Elder Scrolls show because the setting is too generic and lame for it
>>747186698Explain why the Institute had to replace everyone with Synths.
>>747186725 I guess he's an expert on boring generic settings LOL
>>747186754Because the devs thought replicants were cool and wanted them in the game.
>>747186810How does that defend Fallout 4 as a game?
>>747186707that mod is terribletakes forever to level because there's no trainer so you just have to spam it against a wall until you get even slightly competent
>>747186494Can you climb a Telvanni tower interior tho?
>>747186846I dunno, you came up with the question. It's not really an important part of the game anyway. I don't see it as an RPG like Morrowind, the lore doesn't matter that much to me
>>747186912>women taking a picture of something
>>747186494It is pretty good but the biggest issue is that the raycasts it uses can be super slow on more complex geometry. It made Garden of Dreams or whatever slow to a crawl for me.
>>747186707No clue, I'm a MWSEfag>>747186912Ill try in a sec, probably depends on the tower
>>747186518The problem is that you would be infinitely OP as shit as to break the game in half. On the other hand you ARE Lorkhan.The basic package that Vivec and Dagoth have is this>Divine Abilities>Fortify Strength 100 pts on Self>Fortify Attack 50 pts on SelfDagoth also get 50 pts of every Shield, whilch would be middly scary if the elemental shields weren't glitched out/useless. But I installed a mod so I'm safe being hurt.And then Almalexia just got this.>Resist Common Disease 100 pts on Self>Resist Fire Resist Fire 100 pts on Self>Resist Normal Weapons 100 pts on Self>IResist Poison 100 pts on Self>Resist Frost 50 pts on Self>Resist Magicka 50 pts on Self>Resist Paralysis ability —>Resist Paralysis 100 pts on Self>Resist Shock 50 pts on Self>Regenerate ability (in temple only) —>Restore Health Restore Health 1-5 pts on SelfAnd they all got a Wrath spell of bullshit.>>747186589Heard nothing but good things about it.
>>747185656no one cares about the fucking monkey people from ESO my dude. that game sucks. its an MMO. id rather suck on a loaded gunthe bigger problem anyways is that its a bad idea and they look stupid. id rather they were in a separate mod, so i didnt have to look at them or even briefly pretend that theyre a thing that existsand why does it exist? because MK got too high tried to one-up himself and make woodelfs some insane beastgoop that lives with fucking monkey people. he didnt even really accomplish that anyways, seeing as how theyre still just short elves that live in trees and rape with bow and arrow. monkey people or not. it didnt change or add anythingsame goes for a lot of the khajiit races for that matter. they all look dumb as fucking hell. and its yet another stupid re-retcon trying to explain bethesdas own de-facto/laziness retcon to justify why khajiit look different in daggerfall and oblivion because ted wasnt a furry, and no one felt like making entirely new run animations and armors for beastraces, respectivelyand now were at the point where we got house cats.its outta control. this is exactly why todd had to tardwrangle with him so much.
>>747186847Oh God no. Not again. Just make it so you climb slowly or faster, or costing more or less stamina...
>>747184785This specific Argonian invasion discussion is one of those constant things that has periodically surfaced in TES threads for the past 16 years now, nothing out of the ordinary
>>747187315the Imga have been around since before ESO just fyi. Morrowind ingame books
>>747187280>But I installed a mod so I'm safe being hurt.name?
>>747187385idc desuits a stupid ideathe jungle cyrodiil got retconned, then immediately retconned back out of existence. and it was for a reason.leave the monkey people in the bin where they belongwe have orcs at home
>>747187280>you would be infinitely OP as shit as to break the game in half. that's why I said it would be an alternate ending. You get massive power but everyone or at least all non-dunmer try to kill you on sight, could be fun to persist in the doomed world created.
>>747186518>Merge with the heart ending>"This is what I was made for, isn't it? This is why I exist"
>>747187407https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/57915You get hurt a whole lot more, and having it on you is an advantage.
Morrowind purists are the most likely to hang
>>747187315The Imga are from the PGE1, y'know, the most important TES lore document by far>because MK got too high tried to one-up himself and make woodelfs some insane beastgoop that lives with fucking monkey people. he didnt even really accomplish that anyways, seeing as how theyre still just short elves that live in trees and rape with bow and arrow....but the bosmer's backstory and the wild hunt are still canon tho? that's like saying that he didn't succeed in turning the Nords into weather wizards with magic screams because you don't get to see the thu'um in Morrowind>hell. and its yet another stupid re-retcon trying to explain bethesdas own de-facto/laziness retcon to justify why khajiit look different in daggerfall and oblivionNo, it's an interesting idea that relates to the Khajiit's relationship with the moons, the Arena/Daggerfall references were just a bonus
>>747187571>You get massive power but everyone or at least all non-dunmer try to kill you on sightYou are a God. How could anyone try to kill a God? What a grand blah blah...
>>747187657>Zaric ZhakatroonNigga used to wear suits back when I watched him, what the FUCK happened?
>>747187521getting tired of this. if you don't like it then don't mention it. Just go do something you actually enjoy
>>747187652wealth beyond measure, muthsera
>>747187521But the monkey people play an entirely different role in the setting from Orcs
>>747187659>because MK got too highStale rumor. Untrue.
>>747187750yea lol wtfdont do anime kids
>>747187750Trainwiz is next
>>747186912Good news, it works, just need some decent acrobatics and to do some parkourBad news, it looks pretty jank, but I felt cool doing it so w/e
>>747187521>and it was for a reason.And that reason was the fact that Todd Howard wanted to make a playable Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings, as attested by multiple Bethesda key people, not because he was an expert geographer who thought jungles made no sense.
>>747185210Bimbo Azura
>>747187920More like Discord should be made illegal
How do you go from THIS....
>>747187750Apparently, he does for the lulz. Apparently. He still had his suits a few videos ago so who knows.
>>747187818>they violent>big heda>cultur of kili beg to differ
I really wanna get into modding Morrowind but one of the tools from openMW gets tagged as a Trojan. I don't wanna fuck myself over even if it's just a false positive.
>>747188136...to THIS
>>747188180Todd would have an artist shot and killed if they drew this today
>>747187776No prob. Mods should be talked about and enjoyed.
>>747188180That's not normal at all.
>>747188173But they're nothing like that. The Imga's entire gimmick is that they're pompous fags who behave as and think themselves to be snooty noblemen despite being huge gorillas. One of them was also a prophet philosopher man. The Orsimer aren't like that either, but that's beside the point
...TO THIS?
>>747188167>for the lulz.Uh huh sure
>>747188453>Apparently.
>>747187967It does look cool and it's a great featureI would never use itI am impatient.
>>747187750Too much modded Skyrim. Who do you think makes the "play modded skyrim" threads?
>>747188453I mean he could just be a normal transvestite, you know.
>>747188210Yeah he'd demand a khajiit face
>>747187967>>747187167>>747186494these just make me wish a good modern thief game existed
You know, the problem with Dagoth Ur was that he was Anti-CHIM, and made it all icky by spreading a literal zombie apocalypse and blight.If he didn't do either of those, he would be cool. But his voice, body and face already make him cool.
>>747188715Wasn't there just a big thief mod that was really good?
>>747187521>I don't LIKE lore, places and races from places outside of Vvardenfell!Then don't play the lore and races and places outside of Vvardenfell mod? Holy shit, what's with these retards lately who don't want lore outside the basegame in PTR? Has to be intentional stupidity.
>>747188715>>747188787(You) mean/may want to try thishttps://www.thedarkmod.com/main/
>>747189043nta, but if I've never played thief before should i play that?
>>747187315Man, i think at this poing you should just stick to Oblivion & daggerfall, not much of a point in playing mods that are evidently just the complete opposite of what you hope to see from the franchise
Oh man, I sure am loving being tethered to Markarth for 12 weeks so I can attend school. Another gimmicky school is exactly what Morrowind needs. Maybe this system will make more sense when there's actually enough content to keep you near Markarth for that long.
>>747188816I no longer see virtue in any other person. /v/, among others, have threshed it out of me. The joy of the world is lost.
>>747188021>the fact that Todd Howard wanted to make a playable Peter Jackson's Lord of the Ringsgreat idea. sometimes it pays to not overcomplicate things too much. morrowinds right on that edge of it being too retarded, without falling in. oblivion is a realtime combat watercolor painting with ragdoll physics. they both are exactly what they needed to be.peter jackson couldve totally gone arthouse on LotR and it wouldve sucked ass. instead he committed to the """generic""" fantasy bit, so its a classic.nothing wrong with generic fantasy so long as you fill it out obv no issue with LotR or TES. the whole reason RPGs exist at all is because people liked generic fantasy and kept ripping it off. theres nothing wrong with it. its a good idea.the point is that you dont need 40 different furfag races. theres srs irreversible consequences to that kind of retardationthats how you get >>747187657>playin memes-raht in my sissy maid outfit uWu
>>747189142Thief's only really dated aspect are the visuals, the gameplay is so simple and well built that it still vastly holds up IMO.
>>747189484>a realtime combat watercolor painting with ragdoll physicsI am begging you to describe other games with such prose. Sincerely.
>>747189484Ohmes-Raht are the human-like Daggerfall Khajiit tho
>>747189484The mod's not for you, go lurk in a TES6 hype thread.
>>747189545diablo is the hardest point and click i ever played
So Dagoth Ur doesn't actually die when you destroy the Heart. Does it invalidate the theory that he is marely an echo of the real one?> Your people look to you for protection. Monsters and villains great and small still threaten the people of Vvardenfell. Enemies and evils abound, yet indomitable will might rid Morrowind of all its ills.Why did this game and Oblivion ended with that kind of optimistic message, only for it to end badly?
>>747189736because most people, even people with talent, are for some reason incapable of writing a story about continued success and MUST introduce some cataclysm to stay relevant and inspIred
>>747189838It REALLY ended badly.>Protect Morrowind RED YEAR>Protect Cyrodiil MOTHERFUCKING ALTMEREven Skyrim is like LET THE SAID ALMTERS DO THEIR THINGS. Nooooo let's not murder them, that would be too bad, let's focus on the dragons and the civil shitty war. ONLY those two.I hate Thalmor so much too, they are just so cheap and worthless. I can't take them seriously.
>>747189484you somehow manage to come across as a bigger faggot than that tranny youtuber
>>747190157That's cool. Reading it on Morrowind my be a weird.
which race do you think would be the hottest to have sex with i bet dunmer girls are wild
>>747190436This is an in-universe rumor to the point they have a character bitch about it in The Real Barenziah (which is funny because he's complaining about humans thinking that TO Barenziah who herself perfectly fits the stereotype.)
>>747190436its orcs, easily
>>747190436(fire) atronach
>>747181729>When the moon fell it was actually retaining its specific momentum IN TIME even, so it obliterated all the Dunmer from the past until now and changed the timeline>except everyone not in the vicinity experienced time like normal so for them its like the Dunmer just got nuked out of time or something>Did we tell you the Dunmer got obliterated? They got fucked in all holes without lube. The Sharmat even reincarnated with a 50 foot dick and speared dozens of Dunmer at once, killing them in huge cum blasts
>>747189620i mean i dont use PT because we have oblivion at home. so no problembut its this "putting them all over morrowind" thats starting to happen, which is whats retarded.theyre very out of place, they look absolutely terrible, and they dont add anything. and it adds more lore questions than it answers sans any of the answers. they shoudlnt be there. its really that simple.if you really must, at least give them a reason to be there thats not just, i made this asset and wanna put it here. why would there be this jungle monkey that never leaves the jungle in firewatch? at least do thatand for the record i dont have this same issue with the sload OR the random chinese people/elves. thats fine. sload add something interesting. and chinese water people/elves is about the most inoffensive random literal who race ever. THATS how its done. what you DONT do is start adding 10 different types of cats. its needless and attracts the worst kind of autsim you can imagine. furfags are a blight
>>747182876Wasn't the story something like the Hist turned the Argonians into more beastial forms and threw them at the Daedra without regards for their own health?
>>747190891You can keep ranting at me about how you don't want to see the setting of PGE1/Redguard/Morrowind explored in a game but you're still going to find zero sympathy from me. It's not a mod for you, simple as that, so don't play it. Nobody is forcing you.
>>747190891The Pocket Guide says that the apemen can be found as slaves in Morrowind tho, so they objectively and canonically belong there
>>747171553>>747171931Redoran is a tough faction in vanilla because the rewards for their missions are very meager. Of course it ultimately doesn't matter because Morrowind always trivializes due to loot from adventuring and how money works, but man Redoran are huge skinflints with rewards.I suppose it gives the feeling of a house on its back foot. They rely on honor and faith for everything, meanwhile in other houses gold flows like water.
I wanna know more about these asian niggashttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/Tamriel_Data:Ynesai
farewell nerevar
>>747187315>theyre still just short elves that live in trees and rape with bow and arrow. Ironic for you to say that considering the only reason the Bosmer are short in the first place is because of what Kirkbride wrote about them, they were literally described as being tall in Arena & DaggerfallAnd like the guy above said, Kirkbride says that they are short elves who live in trees and are good with bows AND shapeshifting monstrosities, something that is indeed still canon to this day
>>747191146I take it as more they're so duty focused they don't think you should be rewarded for doing your duties, it's what you should be doing.
>>747174287Feeds-and-Seeds
>>747173814In addition to the LUA schedules one, I use this:https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/60121Its a relatively new mod that allows NPCs to have a large array of reaction animations, not only to you but to others. Their reactions change based on a number of factors too. It feels quite natural and I like it a lot.Also this for showing weapon sheathes and shields on backs:https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/46069
>>747190891You do realize the multiple Khajiit types are mentioned on the regular in vanilla Morrowind dialogue right? They are meant to be a common thing in-universe, the fact you don't see them is a meta limitation, and no furfag is gonna be attracted to Morrowind because of it, if anything I've seen more furries who actively dislike the whole multiple Khajiit types lore because they think it dehumanizes them or some shit like that
>>747178724Its crazy because I had the bottom answer already in my head before reading the image. Argonians are for sharing warmth with.
>>747191147They are black people from not asia.>The natives of the Yneslea archipelago trace their origins to the extinct Men of Akavir, and retain traces of that lost culture in millennia-old traditions. A melancholic and isolated people, the Ynesai are rarely seen in Tamriel, preferring the small, tight-knit communities of their tropical homeland. Ynesai take every advantage in a fight, using deception and ranged weapons from afar before getting close to their enemies with knives and fists.
>>747190892yeah
>>747191872Literally nothing in your quoted text implies they're black.
