How did they manage to reclaim their throne after a time when Westerners used to mock Japanese games saying they were boring because they weren’t like Call of Duty or Assassin’s Creed?
>does their thing>"YO THIS SHIT IS LAME">keeps doing their thing>"WOAH THIS IS COOL NOW">keeps doing their thing>"ACTUALLY NOW THIS SHIT FINNA SUCKS NO CAP FORREAH FORREAH">keeps doing their thing>"NOW IT'S BUSSIN AGAIN">keeps doing their thing>"HOW DO THEY DO IT!">huh? did you say something?
I'm new fag Didn't just Normie, but /v/ as well hold this view back then?
>>747209205>How did they manage to reclaim their throneSince when?
Why is this website so obsessed with Japan
>>747209376Which western made game you've played this year tranny?
By bowing in supplication to the consumer before presenting their product
>>747209415>leftgives you White babies>rightgives you bugs
>>747209430I played zero (0) games released in 2026.
>>747209462>gives you white babies>has a white woman moment>no babiesuhh
>>747209550skill issue
There's hardly a difference between Western or Jap games anymore anyway, since they both outsource to the same turd world devs.
>>747209205name 5 good japanese games from the 5 past years that are not:games for kidsprequels/sequelsremakes
>>747209602Do they have Nintendo india or Capcom india?I didn't know that?
>>747209609You forgot to add: Predatory gacha gook slop
>>747209205>How did they manage to reclaim their throne after a time when Westerners used to mock Japanese games saying they were boring because they weren’t like Call of Duty or Assassin’s Creed?Because Westerners are insecure and ironic while Japan just does what they think is neatAmerica is like that popular high school kid that gets mad if his reputation is questionedJapan is that guy chilling just making doodles on his sketch bookAmerica is the "global country" so they have to maintain their role of protagonism, for better or worseSame reason why Americans view the medium of animation as inherently childish while Japan can make shit like Akira without giving a fuck if it has to be Disney or Family GuyAnd now Westerners try to mimic anime but fail because of the low effort and irony
>>747209725>America is like that popular high school kid that gets mad if his reputation is questioned>Japan is that guy chilling just making doodles on his sketch bookImplying Japanese people don't chimp out whenever their war crimes during WW2 are mentioned.
>>747209462The left one will murder your babies
>>747209415Japanese site
>>747209550>>747210238KEK
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>>747209725>America is like that popular high school kid that gets mad if his reputation is questionedMore like that retarded fat stinking kid no one wants to be around because he constantly goes full ape for no apparent reason.
The West has never really surpassed Japan in the genres where that country truly excels.When Phil "Cuckold Face" Fish said that line, Dark Souls had just been released, a game that was sparking a significant paradigm shift, where gameplay was beginning to take center stage once again, pushing elements like spectacle, cinematic scenes, and so on into the background.
>>747209609>prequels/sequels"Uh... aside from all these well-known series that have had good new games come out recently, what else has Japan come up with, huh, huh?"
>>747209205>How did they manage to reclaim their throne after a time when Westerners used to mock Japanese games saying they were boring because they weren’t like Call of Duty or Assassin’s Creed?This never happened among real gamers, only dude bros and ball and gun enjoyers said this.
>>747209205>reclaimNever had to reclaim anything, they were always superiorPeople just realized fentanyl chimps playing ball&gun and journalist trannies having a melty over lack of pronouns are not worth listening to
This never happened. Japanese games have always been popular in the west
I think JRPG had a rough era around the xbox and ps3 time. Shit like final fantasy sucked back then
>>747209205American and Japanese games are the only ones you no-life in and have the fondest memories of.
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>>747218401Me on the bottom
>>747209205The western game media mocked Japanese games because they were on the payroll of the western game industry and Japan was the rival. Japan never reclaimed anything, they were always the best.
Whites have always been inferior.
>>747216462JRPGs had a rough spot? Literally every genre had a rough spot in that era. It's the worst era for games
Amerimuttia crashing and burning doesn't make japan better.
>>747216462JRPG's were never good>>747218683PS2 and PS3 era was the peak of vidya, the current gen is worst state gaming has ever been in
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>>747209205???They never reclaimed it though? Most Japanese games either suck or would have been impressive 20 years ago. They've long stopped being the top dogThat said it's not like the west is doing any better. it's China and Korea that are fighting over the throne. They are the ones making quality games right now.
>>747221110>gook copekekaroo
>>747221702>Jap copelolololol
>>747221110>impressive 20 years agoThat's not quite how the japs see it. And on that note, why would it even be the case that something good may suddenly become bad, only due to a mere cultural shift in tastes? Actually significant cultural changes happen over much longer periods of time. But the whole marketing industry (of which the entirety of all media, both social media and 'traditional' media, are but mere branches) derives their profits from volumetric tonnes of propaganda aimed at maintaining the illusion of constant change and forced obsolescence. They have become so parasitic, especially in the west, that most companies have come to the deluded conclusion that shitting on the past is more cost-effective than improving the present or perfecting the true-and-tested formulas. There is no cumulative progress in craftmanship, only endless replacement of old slop with nu slop. Can you name something that was considered good 20 years ago, but wouldn't cut it nowadays? Outside of QoL/accessibility (fair point) and 'muh graphics'? What even is 'impressive' about gook games that wasn't already done and dusted 20 years ago?
>>747209205Reclaim the throne? Japanese games have been completely and totally irrelevant for 25 years with two exceptions souls and botw (which is based on western design philosophy, basically cribbing from the pattern set by far cry 3)
>>747209678Starfox remake and oot remake are both developed by a contracted Indian studio.
>>747222616Something good 20 years ago would be good because the bar for quality would have been much lower back then. So an 8/10 then would now maybe be a 6/10 or even 5/10 now. It isn't that culture really changed or anything it's that standards have become much higher. Yet Japan has never really left the 90s - early 2000s. A lot of genres Japan pioneered have evolved a lot over the years but most of the games that spawned those genres never did. Metroidvanias for example have long left Metroid behind. Soulslikes too have left Fromsoft behind too.And then there's the fact that game development itself has also never really evolved. Right down from the programming to the corporate executive structure and hierarchy. They don't want to take risks too so they'll stick to to formulas they've known for decades instead of trying new things.I've rambled enough but the point is that they've stagnated a lot.Here's an example of a game which I think really illustrates the current state of the Japanese game industry. This is a game they announced at the last State of Play(an event which was watched by billions across the globe btw).:https://youtu.be/lVL8d9M_UrQ?si=uNO2rAvMPW8gTVhwSuffice to say it looks like it's a game that could have easily released for the PS4, SW1 and maybe even the PS3. This was a game that they proudly showcased on the world stage. This game is what I have in mind when I say "would have been impressive 20 years ago"
>>747225713>mething good 20 years ago would be good because the bar for quality would have been much lower back then. So an 8/10 then would now maybe be a 6/10 or even 5/10 nowExcept this is materially the opposite of reality. Basically no important or meaningful games come out now compared to the 90s. Children trying to retroactively explain things through their vision will always be funny in how wrong their judgment comes out
>>747225713>standards have become much higher.Ah, yes, standards always increase when going from niche expensive thing to mass market cheap thing LolLmao Have you ever been from 20 years ago?
>>747209205Indie devs are the only ones making anything of value these days.
>>747209205We have a woke DEI infestation problem dragging us down. There are half decent games being made by AAA but the story or the woke characters ruins it for the real market of gamers in such genres
>>747227010>There are half decent games being made by AAANo, there really aren't.
>>747226535>>747226787You're uncs blinded by nostalgiaGaming has never been better and I say this as a 30+ year old man.
>>747209415Nips are the proto-type NPC. Redditors love Japan.
>>747228153I'm 44 and my favorite game of all time is genshin impact.You own consoles and or you aren't white with blue eyes right? Right. *Conjures a holy flame that burns your izzat to ash*
>>747230405>>I'm 44 and my favorite game of all time is genshin impact>unc>retardedName a more common duo
>>747232778You and being a brown person with black eyes like a fish.
>>747233037uh oh, gachatrunc melty
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>>747233179>Gen alpha words Yes skibidi bee bop and all that >You own a home!!!Uncs win
>>747225713>Suffice to say it looks like it's a game that could have easily released for the PS4, SW1 and maybe even the PS3.Because Japs realized most people really don't care about graphics like that and the ones that pretend they do aren't the type of reliable consumer you'd want to base your business strategy around. People care about the gameplay, story/lore, characters. atmosphere and other aspects of the game that make a game unique compared to graphicsfaggotry. No one cares about the graphicsfags games of the past outside the ones that did other things to push the envelope like Crysis. The graphicsfag games of today will get the same treatment.Modern AAA games are less impressive now than 20 year old AA games but at least the Japs stuck with making GOOD games unlike American devs. We may never get another Red Faction Guerilla but at least when I'm playing Japanese game, it's going to be decent at worst and more often than not it's actually quite solid.>>747226905indie devs are overrated honestly. They aren't as bad as AAA developers, but they don't have the resources to make fully-fleshed out games that the American AA developers of the past, Japanese and European AAA/AA developers can today.
>>747221110>it's China and Korea that are fighting over the throne.For King of gachashit, what an unserious post.
>>747234156Mihoyo is an indie developer and is currently making like 7 AAA games simultaneously Non indie is dead and irrelevant.
>>747234381Mihoyo is a Chinese AAA gacha developer.
>>747234607They're an indie developer. By the only single definition of that term
>>747234673They have $7 billion in assets, 5000 employees as of 2022 and 9 fucking locations. That is not an indie dev by ANY stretch.
>>747233442>E33Good game>Astro BotLiterally a fucking ad game>BG3Good game>Elden RingGood game>it takes twoHave literally never heard of this nor have I ever seen it discussed on /V/>TLU shart pooFucking lmao>SekiroReally good fucking game>ZeldaAn ok game>OverwatchBabbies first team objective shooter
>>747234859You need to look up the definition of independent. Young people have made this mistake when discussing media for generations. You are objectively factually wrong and cannot argue
>>747235050https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_game>An indie game or indie video game (short for independent video game) is a video game created by individuals or smaller development teams, and typically without the financial and technical support of a large game publisher, in contrast to most AAA games. Because of their independence and freedom to develop, indie games often focus on innovation, experimental gameplay, and taking risks not usually afforded in AAA games. Indie games tend to be sold through digital distribution channels rather than at retail due to a lack of publisher support. The term is analogous to independent music or independent film in those respective mediums.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiHoYo>miHoYo Co., Ltd. is a Chinese video game developer founded in 2012 and headquartered in Shanghai. The company is best known for developing popular gacha games, including the Honkai series, Tears of Themis, Genshin Impact, and Zenless Zone Zero. Beyond video games, miHoYo has diversified its output, creating various products such as animated series, novels, comics, music, and merchandise.>Following the global success of Genshin Impact, which became one of the highest-grossing mobile games of 2021, a global publishing brand named Cognosphere (trading as HoYoverse) was launched in 2022. HoYoverse was established to manage and expand miHoYo's content production and global publishing outside of China. HoYoverse is based in Singapore and has since conducted global operations under the brand, with offices in Montreal, Los Angeles, Tokyo, and Seoul.they're not really indie if they have a global publishing brand that publishes their shit. Cope about me using Wikipedia all you want, but Mihoyo is very clearly an AAA dev if they have the same publishing and developer capabilities of EA and Ubisoft.
>>747235551I understand that I destroyed your izzat by proving that you didn't understand the term What I want to right now is to reveal to you a reality of a better way to be. Successful cultures of the world the Western cultures and the Chinese operate on what is called the Golden rule which means that I do things to you that I would want somebody to do to me When I prove that you are wrong and don't know what an indie developer is it's not because I am trying to hurt you it's because I want you to understand the truth and be able to go forward talking about things and understanding things with a better perception of realityWithout understanding the principle of the golden rule you are forever locked in place in social and spiritual development you cannot advance as a person. Even animals understand and employ the Golden rule widely. Your culture and way of life are inferior to mine and your practices produced a reality in which humans eat human flesh and sacrifice babies. Convert so that I can consider you a human being.
>>747209205All big western video game companies trooned out and killed themselves.
>>747209609Absolutely. If by **Japanese games** you mean games developed by Japanese studios, and you want **new/original games only**—no sequels, prequels, remakes, or remasters—I'd go with these five from roughly **2021–2026**:1. **Elden Ring (2022)** — FromSoftware Probably the safest #1. Huge open world, excellent exploration, challenging combat, and an unusually deep fantasy world. It was also the 2022 Japan Game Awards Grand Prize winner. ([日本ゲーム大賞2026][1])2. **Metaphor: ReFantazio (2024)** — Atlus A completely new fantasy RPG from the creators associated with Persona. Fantastic characters, stylish presentation, turn-based combat mixed with real-time elements, and a very strong story. It won the **2025 Japan Game Awards Grand Prize** and is explicitly described by CESA as a "completely new" fantasy RPG. ([日本ゲーム大賞2026][2])3. **Hi-Fi Rush (2023)** — Tango Gameworks A colorful rhythm-action game where basically the entire world moves to the beat. Very fun combat, great animation, and much lighter than something like Elden Ring.4. **Unicorn Overlord (2024)** — Vanillaware Gorgeous 2D art combined with surprisingly deep tactical/strategy gameplay. It's an original title rather than another entry in one of Vanillaware's established series. It was also among the Japan Game Awards 2024 Excellence Award winners. ([日本ゲーム大賞2026][3])5. **Paranormasight: The Seven Mysteries of Honjo (2023)** — Square Enix A much smaller game, but **excellent** if you like mystery/horror. It takes place in 20th-century Tokyo and revolves around a series of supernatural urban legends. Great choice if you want something different from the usual AAA Japanese RPG.If you want, I can also give you **5 Japanese games from 2021–2026 that are specifically *lesser-known gems*** rather than the big-name picks.
>>747236182Cool. Can you actually stay on topic without spouting buzzwords like an invalid? I'm not going to talk about some stupid bullshit that isn't even related to what the original conversation was about.
>>747209205The chinkoid memes about doing nothing and winning actually apply to the Japanese. They haven't really changed at all but the West is always running some narrative about what is happening to Japan. Maybe some normalfag attention has left, that's about it.
>>747236392Okay, on the topic, thank you for pointing out the Wikipedia page which I have modified with the correct definition. It was both systemically incorrect and full of weasel words like small and large before. Yuck! I fixed it.
>>747236702Why are the autistics like you here so fucking difficult over such meaningless bullshit? Just take the L faggot. It's not that big a deal. You aren't getting paid for this level of simping.
>>747236982I always fix things that are broken. There isn't an argument and then assertion that was changed was unsourced. We are not having an argument right now, you have just decided not to align with reality. I'll throw you a bone.Independent means a game is not developed under contract with a publisher. That is all it means. If the publisher the same entity as the developer it is obviously still indie. The game Doom was developed without a publisher. Publishing rights were then purchased by GT interactive, who distributed the game originally. Is Doom an indie game? Your answer will prove whether you understand or not. This is why you used to be told not to use Wikipedia as a source btw. Your generation probably never was
>>747237414whatever floats your boat gachatard. Comparing a game like doom which only had 10-20 employees working on it in an office space in Nowhere Texas is comparable to a company that produces so many gachas its able to have 5000 employees working for it and 9 locations worldwide in addition to a $7 billion dollar revenue stream. It's not like that's a retarded comparison and doesn't touch on the crux of the "indie vs AA vs AAA game development" distinction and it in fact isn't you coping and seething.
>>747238014Anon the amount of employees doesn't have to anything to do with indieIt is okay to be wrong man. If you don't learn to accept it you are dead in the water. The behavior you're displaying is the behavior of brown and black people. Are you one? Even if so, you can try to be better.
>>747238269>Anon the amount of employees doesn't have to anything to do with indieIt literally does. It's not really independent if you have to conglomerate into a corporation or a business in order to produce a product, unless you think a regional fast food chain is somehow independent in the same way a mom and pop business is. It's even a legal requirement that you have to do as much so yes it does.You literally are making yourself out to be a gormless retard saying all the stupid shit you do just to simp for a gacha company that isn't paying you. the bitches are hot but there's no need coming off as an actually retarded manchild in the process of explaining why you like Mihoyo.
>>747239008? Basically anyone that does anything is a corporation or business. I have two corporations.You're a child who doesn't understand the definition of basic words, and argues when someone tries, sincerely, to help you. This will set the pattern for the entire rest of your life. This behavior will limit you until the day you die. Do yourself a favor and stop using this site. You aren't a contributor.
>>747239421>>747239008Ah, it's a slav..see, I knew it was some kind of third worlderThis is why their countries are like this. They think ignorance is a strength
>>747209205by not shooting themselves in the foot like the west did>no trannies or man-faced women>fanservice (even if the credit card cartel is working overtime to undermine them)>no mylticulturalism and cultural marxism>no emasculated males>etc.
>>747219083The PS2 era was the peak. And JRPGs were thriving then. The PS3 is the absolute worst, way worse than the current era. PS3 era is the movie game/brown bloom generation. It's the advent of slop and shovelware.
>>747240102Jrpgs were over during PS2 era. All the ones of that time are regressive/inferior to past gens
>>747236253another anon here, please do
