Anons are unable to discuss anything properly anymoreIt makes me sadI can't even talk about new games with anons because everyone is just yelling into the void instead of actually talking with another human. You can't even disagree on small stuff. You must hold one of the two opinions on a game, bitter hatred or blind worship.And nobody ever admits they are wrong. Everyone just doubles down, speedruns all logical fallacies, or just disappears rather than being adult enough to admit they were wrong.What even is the point of /v/ anymore?
it genuinely feels like people these days don't post to have an actual conversation with another living being, but just to post as some kinda ritual, and at most they are more concerned with how imaginary third party individuals in their head will view the convo than the actual discussioni feel ya anonsorry jannies will be mad and ban ya for this thread
>>747259148>>747259327The internet got run over by 90IQ nons. Everyone lost faith.
>GUYS, BLUE IS GREAT I LOVE BLUUUUE SOOOOO MUCH!>this seems off topic>OOOH WE HAVE A BLUEFAG OVER HERE SEETHING ABOUT REDCHADS>what? didn't you just say you like bl- oooh this was a falseflag>SHUT UP BLUEFAG I BET YOU'RE SO BLUE>i don't even like blue>NICE TRY, ATTEMPTING TO SUBVERT ME, IMPLYING YOU LIKE RED, YEAH RIGHT, NO TRUE RED CHAD WILL EVER BE LIKE THIS>i don't like red either>W-WHAT!? SHUT UP LIAR, YOU CLEARLY WORSHIP BLUE, SHUT UP SHUT UP
>>747259148>What even is the point of /v/ anymore?Posting twitter screenshots
>>747259148the internet is ran by monopolies of companies and their entire agenda is making everyone as stupid and angry as possible constantly, so when those normalfags go to websites like this they spread that exact agenda without even being told to do anything, actual modern day cattle
The misery of everyone still using 4chan is so palpable, most people with sense and balanced lives have moved on. Everything is seethe and negativity, like it’s pathetic how a game trailer releases and people are dumping paragraphs of effort to express how bad something no one has played is. Just pathetic.
>>747259609Then why are you here?
>meta threadMods ban this nigger immediately! NOW NOW NOW!*TING TING TING TING TING*OH JANNY!GET THIS FAGGOT!!!!
>>747259684I check in sometimes when I’m browsing a porn board lol. Actual discussion here is fucked and absolutely worthless.
>>747259609>He thinks anywhere else is betterAnon the vast majority of the internet is shit now, and nexus points of it especially are. This is simply the least bad one. That and watching 2+ retarded faggots fight in a thread (after you bait one of them) is funny and mostly unique to here.
>>747259148People aren’t encouraged to be civil because people who are civil get treated with hostility anyway. So most people figure, why bother? Also most people here are tribalistic to the point where even fans of the same game are usually being hostile to each other.
>>747259923saying you love something and being made fun of hurtssaying something is trash is fine because there's no emotional investmentit's sad but it is what it is, it's especially bad here compared to other sites because of anonymity and posts being temporary
>>747259148Third worlders, unironically. This is how they communicate with each other in real life, and now you know why they're so violent and never got anything done on their own.
I would like to show the average thread to 4chan administration and ask them what is the point of this going onId be interested to hear their reply what the sites human userbase is meant to get out of using their product.
>>747259148Yeah it's not worth regular posting. Shittons of bots too for some reason
>>747259923is there anywhere that isnt like this. it feels like theres absolutely 0 opportunities to interact with other humans anymore. there arent any social outings to go to in real life and almost everyone online is just incapable of having conversation
>>747260910anons are emotionally stunted autistic babies, breaking news>>747259906personification of why it’s terrible here
I'm playing through Crash Dummies on Genesis because I played the shit out of the SNES version and wanted to see the differences.
>>747261143And that’s the point. The more fragmented everyone is both on and offline, the less billionaires and their pet governments have to worry about. At least some of the radioactive culture of 4chan is manufactured, it wasn’t always this bad.
>>747261279YOU’RE A FAGGOT PAJEETTRAN AND I HOPE YOU GET RAPED AND DIE FOR LIKING THIS
>>7472591484chan has been dead since gookmoot took over
>>747259148>>747259327We tried to warn you that phone posters were cancer.We tried to warn you to gatekeep more.We tried to warn you about Indians.
The entire internet has become /v/: A festering mass of neuroticism, whining, paranoia and anhedonic behavior.
>>747261571>triedthere is no try, only
>>747261571>nothing we could do>we tried but corpos got here first>nothing we could do + largely a falseflag by normalfag tourists to cope with the fact that they themselves are the issue and they need a scapegoat
>>747261571there is literally nothing individuals can do if the people running this site want what you see on current /v/ to be how it is
>>747259327>Innovative tactics are warranted>Given the limitations of traditional tools, more out-of-the-box tactics should be considered. One such tactic would aim at gradually making these boards less interesting for their users.>One way to achieve this would be to regularly post content that looks genuine (using the right language, imagery, etc.) yet is meaningless – this would dilute the message of these boards and make their threads uninteresting, thereby reducing their attractiveness and sense of community.>Recent developments in artificial intelligence enabling researchers to automatically generate credible extremist sentences make such a tactic cheap and easy to implement.From 2021's 'Mining the Chans.'Lately I've been getting more mileage out of this than I would really like.
>>747261279I played this on gameboy like 20 years ago. I don't remember it at all. Is it worth emulating?
>>747261571Who the hell is "we", faggot? Moot wanted ad money from phone posters. Gate was blown wide open in 2011-2012 and 4chan never recovered. Jeets are a scapegoat boogeyman flavor the decade insult.
>>747261784>this would dilute the message of these boards and make their threads uninterestingthe sad part is that this didn't work and just made them interesting to people who post like that in earnesti know we all like to believe it's all bots and shills to make ourselves feel betterbut we will all have to accept the fact that no, those things make up a very small portion of the board, it's mostly humans who are that obsessed, that stupid, that attention hungry, drama and gossip addicted normalfags who post like that in earnest and for free
Where's soapfoot?
this board has always been shit, but over the last decade it really ramped up. thanks, phoneposters!only positive is that schizos are more likely to use twitter or some weird telegram/discord group instead of this hellhole. maybe 4chan will finally kick the bucket in the next decade but i doubt it
>>747261784You think the admin team is in on it too? Them removing IP counts in threads was such a retarded idea and the only possible explanation I've seen is to hide how dead the site's become, but it also makes samefagging way easier.
The fact that a few of you are replying to each other relatively civilly and without too much of the passive aggressive polite pretensions found on other places should, I hope, give you a bit of comfort.Being vitriolic and not being vitriolic is a matter of style. If the post underneath it has substance (which is never certain, but you all know how it is) then I will engage with it. If not, then I'll hide it.I really encourage more of you to exercise the power of that hide button. It's useful!And after those two weeks after April 15th last year, I've really come to conclude that this place is the best we've got.Even this board is okay. Could be better, but I won't say some shit like "we can do it!".
>>747259327I feel the same. It's really like everybody is putting up some kind of stand-up performance.
>>7472591484chan became a place for various discord fags pushing their agenda, or flat out advertising shit, and buzzword throwing imbeciles that want to stomp out every attempt of an actual discussion.
>>747262090I dont see the connection between phoneposters and decline of 4chanLike, owning a phone and wanting to browse 4chan doesnt make one malicious. Malicious actors likely use phones as part of their arsenal but thats more a lack of accounts thing.
>>747259327CHATIS THIS REAL?
>>747261152Anon youre missing the point. We have ALWAYS had fags like OP who bemoan about lack of discussion. 99% of the time they:>Dont make good threads themselves>Dont know how to make a good thread>Cant use filters or know how to bait/take part/cause good discussion to occur>Dont like actual discussion when it does occurThe fact you think this place is worse than almost anywhere else is telling. Right now I can go make a thread about Labyrinth of Galleria/Refrain. The thread if it gains enough traction will have actual discussion. It will also have people trying to shit up the thread with the amount varying based on time of day/week etc. New games, tech news, meme events, trivia etc. ALL get discussion to a decent degree. Just because OP cant handle sifting through the odd bit of banter and shitposts to find good comments (of which there are many) doesnt make it shit. He no doubt enters any thread instead of developing a notion on what a good thread is. Even less likely is he able to tell the intention of a thread be it a /pol/ thread, a coom thread, a shitpost thread, a discussion thread, a social commentary thread etc. or how it can flip throughout a thread. Thats not an issue with the site (even if it has gotten worse to some degree), its him being shite at browsing an imageboard and not liking the culture of one. He would unironically find Reddit or GameFAQs etc. better suited to his tastes. Look at this thread. If OP isnt just baiting and is genuinely wants discussion he's gotten it amongst some posts of jokes or retarded takes. Except he will deny it because most of it calls him out on being a retarded faggot about the topic.
>>747261681>>747261728>>747261883Literal cuckold mentality. By abiding by the problems, you yourself have become what is wrong with /v/.
>>747262146Yeah hiding and using filters seems like the name of the game. Whomstever is shitting up the board wants (You)r attention, been that way since Landed Jack and his copycats.
>i-its the indiansThe irony of these low IQ retards not realizing they're ruining the website Anytime someone seethes over Indians on 4chan, the individual seems to be sub 80 IQSee>>747261571>>747259398>it's not retarded gen Z/A's fault >it's not my fault>proceeds to scream about indians, immigration and "the left" everywhere
>>747262319Phones are bad for discourse on 4chan (refer to pic rel) but also Internet as a whole. It's hardly a coincidence everything started going downhill when smartphone users started making up the majority of online traffic.
Imagine if 4chan added account requirement to post and you could talk about dlss 5 without thousands of posts spamming about indians
>>747262140desu I doubt the admins could do anything about it even if they wanted to. /qa/ hacks the site for like a week and the only thing they can think to do is to disable .pdf uploads on the few boards that allowed them, since this was apparently where the backdoor was. We still don't have sound on anything outside of /gif/ and /wsg/
>>747262319The way I've seen it explained is that most anons don't have image folders so less images get posted on the imageboard and texting on a phone vs typing on a computer generally leads to shorter, lesser quality posts.
I feel like it has a lot to do with modern schooling failing two entire generations of people. The literacy rate is in the shitter.
>>747262710Sure the posting behavior changes, but economics ensure admin will never disallow phoneposters so thinking about it is pointless
>>747259148You are absolutely right but i must say that /v/ isn't (or ever was, really) the place where constructive debates about videogames happenAnons are more worried about saying the most buzzwords possible to get the most (you)s
>>747262387To add to my point take this post here >>747262528 I can accuse him of being aquajeet because its funny and a currently popular in joke on the board. You may not find it funny. Guess what? You can always just not read the post, go to a different thread, or ignore that part of a message. I can be in a thread with two fags arguing with each other over fuck all where its not even funny. I simply ignore the posts (others hide them) as I can discern whether or not its worth reading or even staying in the thread for. Loads of threads daily have worthwhile discussion in it.Youve also not factored in that its mostly the same users everyday. Certain topics are talked to death and dont need repeating everyday and are better off spreadout. to use the Labyrinth game example again I dont need a new thread daily for it and it would be crap if it did exist as the post quality would go down and actual discussion would die.
>>747262773Look at boomers on facebook being amazed about AI vids and say that again.Its much bigger than one generation, actual adults act like idiots and bigots online. Sometimes even under their own name and face.
See how they have to strawman >>747262528 to try and gaslight you into believing their rewritten history?>Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.
>>747262937>aquajeet>some german tranny that has mod protection>his threads just devolve to Indian spam>you're here, trying to turn this thread into Indian spamLow IQ nigger
>>747263001To be fair, boomers didn't get the best education either, and they+early gen X also have the lead poisoning debuff from all that leaded gasoline dustAnyway, it's not like too many boomers post here on /v/ anyway, and the ones that do seem pretty alright.
I unironically get better conversations on twitter while also able to make lasting connections there. Reddit as well but it's slower and more of a hub for sharing information but you can't be based on there.
>>747263159Look here, I didnt read past the 2nd line as the guy is just seething that Aquajeet is a meme (I.e. he is Aquajeet). I got my joke and had serious discussion with OP and others. The two arent mutually exclusive in most cases as I can filter what data/posts are worth reading.
Literally how do you get that stupid? ^^
>>747262387>if it gains enough tractionThat's a very big if, anon. Sure, if you samefag for 20 hours some anons are bound to pick up the thread and maybe get something going. But usually threads that aren't in the meta just slide off the board with 5 or less replies. And God help you if you chose a topic with an active local schizo.
>>747259327The anonymous format should theoretically result in more honest posting, but after literal decades the culture has crystallized into a form where the heart of the discussion contains the same banalities as anywhere else, but they have to be veiled under socially acceptable terms. You can't say that someone is hot or attractive, you have to say "qt3.14". You can't say that something is bad or embarrassing, you have to say "cringe". You can't praise something with your own words, you have to say "kino". And so on. Once you realize this you realize that the discussions here aren't any more honest or insightful, people just delude themselves into thinking so because of the ritual terminology they force upon themselves.Another boring thing that is really emphasized here is dismissal. People don't often even want to begin to analyze a particular post's content if it doesn't pass some arbitrary internal filter, in other words if the other poster is a faggot autist tranny soiboi tranny ESL pajeet. Even as I write this I've hidden several posts for using memes I don't like or using tranime pictures. It's insidious. The third banality I will bring up is the generation obsession. You think people 2000 years ago weren't ranting about younger people? You're not any smarter for masking your insipid rhetoric with terms like "zoomers" and "boomers". And like before it will achieve exactly nothing.
>>747262826>economicsthis site isn't making money, especially since activity across most of the site has sharply dropped since the hackhonestly it's a wonder it hasn't been shut down by the gook jew already
The high noise to signal ratio means I constantly want to talk about games, technology but I know it's not going to be rewarded in a sea of LLM noise and bot posts. Its spilling over to /g/ where you see exact same post behavioe with no other purpose than to shut down productive discourse. I guess the site owners attitude is they dont need to do anything as long as adrev stays stable.
>>747262710>less imagesfewer*
>>747263595Depends on the timezone and the topic. If your game or whatever isnt big enough to warrant a full thread try and usurp another or make a general genre thread. To use Labyrinth again it almost never gets a solo thread anymore and is just a DRPG thread where it is the OP or mentioned in it. You need a topic thats popular to have a thread or something to warrant replies. The schizoposting is a separate issue for some topics as they can outweigh them in some cases but not others.
>>747261881The gen/snes game is different from the other releases. Unless you're already a fan of these old ass toys you probably won't find much to enjoy with it. It's made by the same guys that did Wayne's World, so the levels have fucked up layouts and there are a gorillion instances where enemies show up out of nowhere and get a cheapshot in. It's also based on the animated tv special that was also given out on tape with some of the toysets.I love it, but I won't call it some kind of hidden gem. Give it a try if you've got nothing else to play.
>>747263379I do have a twitter account but i fucking despise browsing there because vagueposting and retarded takes reign supreme, ironically the problem is similar to /v/ where no one actually discusses anything.
>>747262528I want to blame Latin Americans because I've met plenty who are just are low quality disingenuous shitposters. Though going on about some potential boogieman isn't going to improve anything. The state of this site is just a symptom of the modern Internet where all these shitposters see it as a landfill they can easily stir shit in without consequence and engagement is largely fueled by rage baiting.
>>747263719Honestly, I wonder how we do remain up and running but before the hack they did reduce the number of threads that archive on multiple boards.>>747263980I really only try to connect with people who I think are cool which is easy over there, but I agree retards are on there as well.
>>747262937>I can accuse him of being aquajeet because its funny and a currently popular in joke on the boardI don't want to be rude, but this is the exact kind of attitude that kills discussion. If all it takes is someone to post a character from anime or someone else to bring up some off-topic thing to derail a thread, thats not good thing or a fun in-joke. Its on the level of trying to defend someone talking about ""chuds"" or whatever in middle of thread and getting it derailed, then calling it a "fun in-joke".You seem to find shitposting and board meta more fun than actual interaction with other humans. I really don't wanna be rude, but I really dislike your attitude. Checked your earlier post and even there you encourage baiting instead of genuine back and forth. But you find people talking about Indian restroom stuff in middle of any vidya thread a funny "in-joke"(made up this year by people who started using this board during gg or elections or even worse during covid) so whatever.Its just tiring. I rather talk genuinely with people in a place that allows complete anonymity, not play some board meta games and troll and bait and shitpost and derail for the sake of it.I know shitposting has its place, but the sheer pride that people feel over it these days is just strange.
>>747263627You can say those terms. Theres nothign preventing you from doing so beyond some faggots thinking theyre cool because theyre contrarian or trying to fit in too hard. The terms mostly just get used as its popular and a sort of in joke to say. I.e. its part of the board's culture which you can choose the degree you adhere to it. Those terms are also just shorthands to quickly make posts or to stealthbump a thread. No one will flame you for explaining a game is good JUST because you say so instead of 'Kino' or whatever. This is imply not true for the vast majority of cases and the rare few it is true for its just some schizo faggot you ignore.>2nd paragraphThats mostly people choosing when an argument isnt worth engaging with from their PoV but still find the post or its content/message annoying enough that they want to shit on it. This also works when someone never properly engages in honest discussion and just repeats the same argument endlessly. At a certain point you just call him a fag and move on or use it to amuse yourself with as the discussion isnt fruitful at all. >uses 'tranime' term himselfYoure engaging in the very rhetoric you're moaning about. Youre adhering to board culture even if its the counterculture here. If you genuinely think discussion is awful why are you here? If its to farm (You)s or because its funny then thats at least honest but contributes to the very thing you dont like. If you dont get that and just want discussion then youre the one cuckchaining yourself here and not somewhere else.
>>747264345Shitposting turned from intentionally being retarded and getting called out for it to intentionally being retarded so the thread turns into a circle jerk about some non-vidya topic
>>747262319My logic is that the type of poster who wouldn't be online without the use of a phone isn't exactly the most high quality poster.Sure - traditionally there have always been retards online. But as more and more retards got phones w/ Internet access in the palm of their hand, the overall quality of the Internet (and this shithole) has cratered.
Also, I would like to add the amount of jeets who come here to repost twitter screenshots to fish for replies from anons who'll take it serious is too damn high. There is literally one thread up that is about to 500 replies and isn't video game related at all.
>>747264345It derails a thread to a certain degree because people know who the poster is as its akin to/is avatarfagging. Even in those threads you WILL find discussion as most people ignore it (or engage whillst also taking the piss out of him). Why cant you simply filter out the parts you dont like? How it derails a thread depends on the users and the strength of the topic. In the example's case the posts are often just statements that sometimes cause big threads but others dont. He also responds to the piss taking in the same way either because he genuinely gets annoyed or as an added layer of the joke. >You seem to find shitposting and board meta more fun than actual interaction with other humans.This is projection. You dont seem to fathom I can enjoy both. Here I am discussing this topic with you and others. I havnt shitposted besides using Aquajeet as a good example and even that was in a semihonest fashion. This also assumes you arent interacting with others when you engage in shitposting. It can be but isnt always malefic. Its humour, its spice. You can simply ignore it and have a serious tone as your own post Im quoting is styled like. >you encourage baiting instead of genuine back and forthYou misunderstand. I encouraged it in cases where you want to start a topic but by virtue of luck or whatever dont get traction. Some of threads you see on the board atm that have discussion (of which there are many) will have the odd post at the start of the thread try and kick off the discussion. Youre treating this place as if it HAS to engage in a topic because it exists. It can be an interesting topic but have no hook or spark to ignite discussion. this is different to shitposting/derailment etc. This also occurs in basically every other place on the internet to varying degrees and in irl social structures as well. 1/2
>>747262319>I dont see the connection between phoneposters and decline of 4chanMe neither to some extent. But that's me projecting and not representative of reality.Consider the following. When you are sitting down at your computer. A stationary thing. Where you more or less just use the computer.There's something of a bare minimum of "effort" to go posting under those circumstances.With a phone however. You can sit wherever and just go "shitpost shitpost shitpost" after your brainrot reel binge. Whether it's on the bus, the shitter, while shopping. It's always there, literally no commitment required.My guess is that people feel less invested in posting in those circumstances. Because the posting itself becomes circumstantial. You're not really sitting down "to post." You're just shitting out some drivel on the go.
I've been off and on coming here since I was a little underaged b& back around 05 or 06 and while it has gotten progressively worse over the years, It is now at the point I truly see no value whatsoever. Some of the slower boards there's a sliver of it, but /v/ in particular is absolutely unusable at this point. I think I'm just done. This is kind of representative of the wider internet at this point but there's just no fucking point. It's over.
>>747265224Its harder to type posts on phones, its a natural inhibitorThe shitposters use computers and llms and at most use phones to ban evade
>>747259609A lot of new video games, especially higher budget and western ones are genuinely shit and worth dunking on, though. The problem is 90% of people here don't have credible reasons and are just in it to shitpost.
>>747265258it's worse everywhere else, I still come here every day out of habit and because I don't socialize with people IRL, but every online space is curated as hell or a ghost town
>>747262319>I dont see the connection between phoneposters and decline of 4chanEasy access for normalfags, easier ban evading, shorter and more reactionary posts, less image variety etc.I'm sure someone smarter than me could scrape the archives and run an analysis on the average word count per post and how it's changed over the years.
>>747265330It is harder. But I still fight the shitty phone UI to post well. Hence my projecting being decent on others. While it sits in the back of my head that everyone else is a gigafaggot. Even more so on a phone.
>>7472643452/2>But you find people talking about Indian restroom stuff in middle of any vidya thread a funny "in-joke"(made up this year by people who started using this board during gg or elections or even worse during covid) so whatever.Youre projecting too worth onto is a small topic and think I care more for the lore about it than I actually do. If you dont like that part of my post then you can ignore it as besides using it as an example the joke part is separate enough from the rest of my post that you can simply not engage with it. Its there as a joke for myself, maybe yourself, and maybe for other people reading the thread. I lurk in many threads and laugh at jokes anons make. Thats half the fun of the board and actually adds to the discussion 9/10 as it makes things memorable. Ace Combat threads are fun as people interweave irl plane discussion, game discussion, music discussion etc in with Torres or Belkan memes. If I dont like one part I can just ignore it. Youre basically just making the imagebaord equivalent of moaning about someone in a game when you can just mute them. Theres enough actual discussion for you to engage in.Take my post with the Aquajeet example comment. Its an honest post whilst also being a joke and the two can be separated as its genuinely a serious argument of the current topic.
>>747259462ah, a tale as old as time
phoneposter reporting ineffortsovlyour welcome.
>>747265527Id argue that part of it is meme culture and the average internet user's cultural use changing adding to it. memes and buzzwords are more common and its also generated a culture of some people trying to start memes for their own satisfaction (for better and for worse). cumbrain evolved into coomer, which then evolved into gooner. Itll likely evolve into another thing and some people will try and force that. It just happens faster than it did before and meme lifecycles end up overlapping.
>>747259148>>747259327>>747259398We need to have an internet segregated to certain regions.
>>747265918Gooner is such an awful word, cumbrained is way better>>747266031There will always be people smart enough to just bypass it
>>747266031Wouldn't fix anything
>>747266168>There will always be people smart enough to just bypass itthose are the people we want here
>>747266031With the way things are going now, I suspect in two or three decades this might actually become a thing.
I feel like there is some kind of literacy crisis on the internet in general because i can make some fuckass point about something and then get a non-sequiter response that makes no sense, on the classic 'youre a retard' (but im too fucking stupid to explain why)
>>747262528It's just the latest buzzword. Used to be "trannies". On gacha boards it's "SEA". People love labeling some transient boogieman instead of realizing that zoomers are just a failed generation worldwide that are unable to communicate like human beings.
>>747266508Or they're malicious actors and the goal of "discussion" was never the point
>>747266616Nah m8 they're just retards. I've noticed how in the last decade, people miss the point of posts and get irrationally angry with more frequency.
>>747266508Tbf they dont have to explain why youre retarded depending on the take or how much they want to invest into the discussion. Just like how you can call them a retard back without any requirement of why.
>>747266408What regions would there even be?>Latin American>MENA>Indian Subcontinent>East Asia (Maybe SEA added in)>American-canadian-Pacific>Australia/Western Pacific>Western Europe>Eastern Europe>Sub-saharan Africa
>>747266508>on the internetNot even on the internet. The last time I had a job where I had to look at emails I was easily the most literate person in the office, up to an including the owners. There were plenty of people who didn't or couldn't use proper capitalization, let alone punctuation. The most productive work I ever did there was just helping the drafter who sat next to me compose emails to his boss.
as long as person like Trump can be a president there is no reason to expect any decent reasoning. People just accepted that everyone can be retarded rapist and its "le" funny
>>747266851Theres a lot of posts where I might make a reply but the likelyhood Im talking with a shitpost bot is too high that theres no point. Bots dont usually respond either.
>>747266031Segregate the customer base into different regions? B-but then how will I sell my product!? We need one global culture so I can sell product to everybody on the planet with minimal effort!!
>>747266408This would sadden me, kinda. Back during my tenure in academia, it was a delight to be able to use academic paper-sharing networks to go read stuff published in far-off places like Scandinavia; though, I wonder if it's still as useful and cool now that AI is apparently really shitting up academic discourse
>>747266616If one actually bothers to sit down, opt in to read a random 4chan post and solve a captcha to respond to it without actually understanding the substance of whatever the post is, i think we can rule out someone trolling for the luls as it were. They're just stupid 90% of the time.
>>747266031In the unlikely scenario humans end up colonizing another planet like Mars, you could actually have that but on an interplanetary scale.
>>747263719Because the point of the site isn't profit and gook moot isn't trying to make one.
>>747266991I kind of imagine a spectrum of options where you can limit your ecosystem to a network closed off to anyone outside of your nation, then another that includes your nation + nearby neighbors or that continent, and so on. There's objectively some use for connecting to anyone anywhere on Earth, but a lot of us really don't want the floodgates open on absolutely every platform at all times. Let me escape this zoo.
>>747262319While not inherently malicious, phone posting changes how one engages with the site and how much effort they exert.>less OC, since a phone wouldn't have creative tools like MSPaint or Photoshop>typing on a phone is shittier than a proper keyboard, so phoneposters might be less inclined to type out longer, more thoughtful postsThere are other considerations, but those are probably the biggest contributing factors to how phoneposting lowers overall quality on the site.
>>747267475Well they say pressure makes diamonds lmao
>Thread sitting on page 4 or 6>Make a 2 or 3 paragraph post about my thoughts on the subject>No one responds within a few minutes>Thread diesThe fact of the matter is that /v/ is simply far too fast for the imageboard template, particularly since it has a number of low effort posts frequently being made and people seem incapable if self moderation and actually trying to retain discussion within 2 or 3 threads during major release.
>>747263719>activity across most of the site has sharply dropped since the hackProlly why the site is noticeably shittier post hack. Only the schizos stayed.
>>747268221Youre paragraphs may say all there is to say on the topic (or subtopic), anons may have left the thread, or your posts whilst long didnt say anything. Whilst unlikely it can happen. Youre also assuming lurkers dont read it. Its the same for chains within a thread. /v/ does need extra pages though.
>>747266991>finally get region-exclusive internet>still have to share with CanadiansGod this would be fucking miserable. I would unironically take hearing 3rd world opinions over seeing more of them.
>>747268018Phone posting isn't why 4chan is shit, it's why the entire fucking internet is ass now.
>>747266339We already get those and they just market bullshit or take part in schizo shit.
Sometimes I don't even click on threads about a subject matter I'm a fan of because I know the discussion quality will be shit tier
>>747259148you can't confidently talk about anything without knowing in the back of your mind that the site is filled to the brim with bots and shillsIt has been proven time and time again (with actual evidence) that evil people see places like 4chan as a war zone for marketing both things and ideas, With the improvement of technology comes the extended reach of rich and crazy idealoguesat some point we'll have people having full fledged conversations in chat rooms without realize they're the only human there. What then?
>>747268591Given the state of Canada and some US states would there be any difference?
>>747268847>at some point we'll have people having full fledged conversations in chat rooms without realize they're the only human therePretty sure that already happens
>>747268735I haven't clicked on a Fire Emblem thread in years despite it being one of my fav franchises lol
>>747268872the smell would improve
>>747268591wtf did we do
>>747269208my point was more the amount of Indians and Somalians relative to the overall population of posters would increase no?
Sadly, I think a lot the civilized people are slowly leaving many sites in general. You can guess what the replies are going to be 95% of the time, whether its 4chan, or reddit(I've never used twitter, but I'd imagine its the same shit there). The vast majority of threads here are just ragebaiting, and the first comment is always reply-farming as well. A lot of the generals are filled with retards spamming AI images. Half of /g is filled with AI threads.But personally, the worst thing about 4chan for me, are the trolls that can single-handedly ruin communities. I've picked up a few new interests over the years here, and it is so sad to see those communities completely ruined by what is likely a single spammer. I've been here a long time, and I know that every board has its schizos, but the fact that a single person is allowed to repeatedly shit on nice communities is bizzare to me. All you can do is leave, and so do all the other that have half a brain. I check in those threads like once a year and you guessed it; same shit still happening.Also happens in domestic language tech forums as well. Half the people have really shit looking AI avatars, blatant super-long AI posts. Same retards defending the corporate overlords. Whether its DLSS 5, PS5 disc removal, or GTV VI, you have multiple people(some with their RL face as their profile pic) posting page after page how amazing these companies are.Its all fucked.
>>747268401It's not so much my specific post not being replied to that bothers me so much that it's often a subject or game or genre I just want to talk about that just doesn't get traction. It gets particularly annoying when there are 30 posts about a new nintendo game that all sit at a couple dozen responses before they die and get replaced while two or three actually develop properly
>>747268591This sounds like some /pol/ster memery. What is wrong with decent Canadian gamers?t. Texas
>>747269460>You know what we need more of? People obsessing and crying over America (Canadians) Yeah, that sounds good.
>>747269326Shut the fuck upbeaner
>>747268735This but with Xenoblade. /v/ is such a cesspit Xenoblade threads have been unusable for years.
>>747269554It doesn't come up in my conversations. Is your country your entire personality? Mine's a mix of art, music, food, platformer games, etc.
>>747269431Tbf youre more likely to get niche discussion here than elsewhere depending on when you post. Ive played lots of games that Id never of found if I only lurked in normalfag parts of the internet. Id advise trying to make/or find a wider genre thread and try and stealth the game topic you want in as it will naturally have a curated group of players in the thread. Unless its hyper niche in which case youre purely out of luck and would be elsewhere besides reddit or places with perma threads.
>>747259148it is what it is man. society as a whole is basically hell for people who can handle complex thoughts, or simultaneously consider multiple conflicting viewpoints/ideasi've recently become aware that in casual conversation it's hard to communicate a thought that takes more than a sentence or two to express, as people have been pre-programmed with thought-terminating offramps and simplified heuristics. and they simply don't have any interest in what somebody else's mind might conjure up, as all approved narratives and opinions have already been laundered through mass media algos
>>747269319We Leafs have quite a reputation for some pretty egregious shitposting over the years on the flag boards that has since gotten some traction on other boards. Hence you get things like the day of the rake meme. Anyone with a modicum of brain would of course recognize we're not all retards but I will admit we've got quite a few retards on 4chan for some reason.
>>747269564I assumed theyd have their own region with central America or be grouped with the south due to the language barrier.
>>747259148talking to an AI is feels more human than talking with anons
>>747269713So you're saying you never see any random internet comments outside of you're conversations? Wow, that's so strange and I completely believe you.
>>747268591Well the Americans and Canadians need to cleanse all the foreigners first, otherwise the entire North American network will be markedly worse than others.
>>747259148Zoomers are completely retarded and I mean that sincerely. They grew up scrolling Tiktok and playing with pedophiles on Roblox so they have no experience discussing their own supposed interests like the forum generation did. They can barely read or write. They can't read clocks. They don't understand technology despite using it every day because they only have experience with simplified OSes and UI/UXes. They only drink energy drinks and eat fast food. They never experienced the good Internet. Slop is the norm for them. They barely qualify as human.
>>747263935I love older comics like this. Old Dinosaur Comics and Space Moose come to mind - maybe not in style, but in attitude.
My brothers in /cum/ we must establish the great CUM firewall.
>>747269732On 4chan in general, and /v/ during particular times of the day, that's true and they are why I still come here. But at periods like right now trying to cultivate those discussions becomes quite a bit more difficult.
>>747268735me with RE4 threads, both versionsRE threads in general
>>747268735Nothing worse than a game you like getting a dedicated schizo or earning the ire of /pol/tards
>>747270127What? You don't enjoy crowbcuck's alt schizoing about remakes for 300 posts every thread?
>>747270063I find the culture of /v/ changes throughout a day. Its different during American evening hours vs European hours and more as different people go to sleep and the neets, richfags, lateshift workers, or people with a day off stay up longer.
>>747270063The main issue comes down to moderation. I've applied to be a janny as a retired NEET but I have yet to get accepted. Maybe it's my throw away email that turns the main moderation team off. But I will NEVER use an email that can be linked back to me especially after the hack.
>>747270302Some of the poltard thread topics brings the whole sites moderation into questionLike why are they giving bans to anything when they let the spam happen elsewhere freely, unmitigatedThey have no justification for it
>>747259684NTA but the rest of the internet has become diet 4chan in the worst way possible where it’s easier to see anonymous say something retarded and brush it off as someone trying to get a reaction vs a profile with a face and a name that just leaves me thinking “oh, you are a real person who acts and thinks this way.” You have 60 year old boomers in instagram comments calling people goy or cuck, and since modern internet dialog was apparently exclusively learned from reddit and by extension here you can’t escape the cynical irony no matter where you go.
>>747269834Half of the US speaks primarily Spanish at this point
>>747259148i don't know why you are singling out /v/ on this when every other social media and even real life is like this nowadays
>>747270302What has caused the uptick in obsessive schizo behavior. I get a site used by many maladjusted man children is going to have a lot of them act like belligerent retards, and 4chan has always had them to varying degrees, but it feels these type of people are everywhere now where they feel like their own world view triumphs over everyone else's so they have to shit up threads to get their point across or sayisfy some vendetta.
>>747259148There were some good threads a week or so ago.The thing is: is that finding a good thread is like finding a diamond in a mountain of shit. The OP doesn't even serve as a hint to the quality of the underlying discussions, which makes finding quality posts harder to track.
>>747270431You can thank a*mongold and those other freaks for popularizing the culture war cringe. At least it's ironic or an underage sharteen here.
>>747270665Politics became mainstream. People saying "video games are political." Normalfags becoming more online. Third worlders making youtube videos on 4chan because $1 USD can feed them for a week.
>>747271089"Videogames are political" is a double edged sword, because at the same time there's schizos desperately trying to convince you Hotel Mario is some insane commentary on white supremacy there are also retards who claim to not want politics in their games but their fav game is Bioshock
>>747270665with AI its piss easy to make a bot that posts on threads or atleast warns you whenever a thread about a certain topic is postmix this with mods caring more about someone saying "nigger" on /a/ than anything else about the website and you got the state of most threads here
>>747270665I don't think it's so much a rise in a number of these people as it is certain social movements are facilitating the existance of these reclusive nutjobs to exist entirely online and the boom in prominence 4chan got during the whole 2016 shitshow resulted in a lot of refuse from other sites being actively funneled here.We've always had autists, but they're just a lot meaner now, because they're not just socially awkward dorks, plenty of sites and apps can cater to those. They're the socially awkward dorks who were do nasty about it the other dirks didn't want them around.The public nature of 4chan compared to the more controlled environment Discord provides it's server hosts, in tandem with the ease of VPN access and sites purposefully enabling these autists to bypass moderation on 4chan specifically makes them imposdible to get rid of.
>>747259148Just be glad you were there at the height of when things were good, and remember those memories.
Discussion on /v/ has been sabotaged by multiple groups, but especially by mods and the owner deliberately because free discussion led to gamer gate the industry doesn't want that to happen again.
>>747259148The old internet was better purely because of the understanding the internet is not real life. Now we have a critical mass of retards trying to make their problems into the internet's problems.
>>747271538Gamergate was gay as fuck though.
>>747259148>What even is the point of /v/ anymore?Shit like thishttps://x.com/real_hotaru/status/2097548512435089631The monetization of Twitter has ruined what little we had left unironically
>>747271538>YOU GOT A STICK UP YOUR ASS? ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE DUMBASS GAMERGATE CREEPSHOWS??
>>747271757>Gamers organizing against corporations>who pay to have the industry agree their game is "good" >is gay as fuck
>>747271295Political allegories have been in stories since the dawn of time, but they don't have to be some kind of message that screams at your audience "I THINK THIS WAY ABOUT THIS CURRENT POLITICAL ISSUE AND THIS IS THE BASED AND REDPILLED WAY OF THINKING ABOUT SAID ISSUE." It can be something completely generalized or something that just gives more depth to a narrative. Retards nowadays just need to take every one of these allegories and apply it to left vs right brain rot. >>747271538Jannies on this sites are just faggots who are trying to tailor every board to what they specifically want. That's why rule enforcement is so inconsistent like certain threads being banished to /vg/ for being generals while others are left alone. If you executed the staff here and replaced them with anyone who cared about the quality of the site as a whole and not whether or their pet threads are getting shat on, this site would drastically improve. Right now, it's no fucking better than a subreddit.
>>747271295modern corporate politics are literally "everyone who disagrees with me should die because they are the worst person alive", it just doesnt adapt well to art. i can't really blame people telling anyone that "games are political" to fuck off and kill themselves if they want every story to be like that
>>747271929Yeah they're still doing that dude. The CSI episode was prety funny though.
>>747259148>Anons are unable to discuss anything properly anymore>What even is the point of /v/ anymore?Say thanks to rapeape. An anonymous place where people can say whatever they want was deemed unnecessary in modern society. Don't worry, soon this will be replaced by a thread where "straight" guys masturbate together.
>>747272121>>747272072I would also like to add-on to both of your posts the up-tick in people who don't care about video games, but they care about the message in the video game. The type of people who watch a summary on the video game, and then say they're "die hard fans" of the series.
Gamergate and the 2016 elections ruined this site in a way it never recoveredEvery discussion NEEDS to be about politics now. Everything is about left vs right, woke vs trad, liberals vs incels etc etc.
>>747262528Based BharatCHAD! We don't have to take timmy racism anymore
>>747259148>And nobody ever admits they are wrongBecause the aim is to pass time, it isn't to have a discussion.
>>747262710Personally i have an image folder, but since phones don't ask for a rename on download i forget to rename most of them while the folder grows... But i also rarely post when on pc because the pc is the youtube and vidya machine.I'm now wondering if there's a firefox addon that asks for renaming downloads so i don't forget.
Anyone here had to interact with young zoomers irl?They are retarded to such an extreme degree its painfulAnons posting here remind me of them
>>747261972>the sad part is that this didn't work and just made them interesting to people who post like that in earnestThat's exactly how it was supposed to work. An imageboard is the sum of its posters, you change the posters and you've destroyed the imageboard.
>>747259764>lolyou knew no one would take a cumbrain seriously and tried to pretend you were in on the joke
I'm a newfag who has been here since 2011 and every year we've had threads about this, complaining about the current status of 4chan and the internet in general. It makes me wonder if it was ever truly winter.
>>747259609Everyone on 4chan is married successful and has kids, there are no khhv losers here, but in turn that means it’s the married parents who are complaining and bitching on here 24/7 not the neets and khhvs, the latter presumably have other things to be getting on with like playing games
>>747272693it just gets worse every year, simple as
>>747269319>>747269826You guys are too dangerous. Walking timebombs.
>>747270431More like 4cuck is a diet version of the rest of the internet, even Facebook boomer groups are less milquetoast
>>747264574Your logic won't get through to him because he's running defense for his kind. People who are part of the reason everything was shitty have an active interest in pretending things were always shitty. It's why dysgenics and brown people pretend the white countries they live in were never great.
>>747272419Based big tech making it so I won't be here forever
>>747259148This is a miserable place filled with miserable people. It lost all hope of reason a decade ago and has never recovered what little it had.
>>747272737I'm a permavirgin, but I'm just a high performing autist with a jorb and a house. I just dislike most forms of physical contact.
>>747272925If you're still here, you're here forever.
>>747262528They are xitter migrants and should be called out
>>747264345You do realize avatarfagging is cancer and has been against the rules forever right?
>the same retards arguing about muh 4chan discourse don't know about moot actively shitting on your types since the muh old /b/ movement 20 years ago and outright making fun of retards that refer to themselves as oldfags like they're some elder statesman of 4chan of all places
The truth, the real truth beyond all of this is two things: signal to noise and the decline of the internet.First: if you are a good quality poster, you are often posting once, maybe twice or three times a day if at that. I know a guy here who has a great game hacking thread, where he made thread explaining how he hacks games. That type of quality comes once in a bluemoon, guys like me are middling. What are we left with? Spammers who do nothing except spam with garbage posts and garbage posts, who are more interested in arguing the same points for their bots/boss/boredom. The second is the decline of the internet. We say that, and I am not going to define what happen or how, only it's effect. And the effect is simply the name of the game has changed, subtly. Arguments over dumb shit is common as >>747272693 said. But what is important is the IMPORTANCE of what's being argued. That's changed.What do I mean? Before the game/topic and mastery/understanding was a criteria of ridicule. E.g. "you can't beat Mario 1CC bro shut the fuck up." Now? What is it? What are people using as ammo for their insults? It's often has nothing to do with the game, it's real life stuff that was inspired BY the subject matter of the game.No gamergate no Trump no fappening: the simple shifting of what's the point of arguments, and spamming those arguments over and over is the problem. It's idea laundering: a game goes through the wringer to be an excuse for culture wars, not the game itself has it's OWN culture war. "lol you're a mage? You're a retard" type posts are dying off, in favor of "lol you're a girl? You're a faggot" posts.
>>747273750Same. Thats the correct attitude. There is nothing to be proud about in regards to how long you've been on 4chan.
There have been like, 7 different threads about >You a guy but play with girl!! tranny????
>>747268735I do the inverse sometimes. It's nice to see real discussion even if its not about something I like.
>>747273750why should i care about this epstein bitch
>>747270356>>747270127What about the futaposting?You gotta love that!
>>747274340I can't tell if it's fags who are actually that gay they feel the need to bring up cock this often or it's some misguided attempt to take some steam out of the porn posters.
>>747273750Moot's a fag too who threw this website under the bus and went to work for a homosexual technocrat corporation. He was the nigger who decided to bring back /new/ in the first place so the current state of this site falls on his shitty decision making.
>>747273874Very well-thought out post anon. I'd also add that a lot of anons tend to lurk rather than post and even less make their own threads. I know I personally didn't start actively posting until I had lurked for like two or three years. That's something I don't think people tend to do nowadays. If anything they come here to post something or steal something to post somewhere else. Like this >>747271763
>>747273750Remember when we made fun of moot trying to bang that liberal chick? Fun times. Lost the old /b/ header image so have this instead.
>>747259148come to /vr/, /vrpg/ and /vst/
>>747273874Lol, you're a 4chan poster? You must suck dicks.
>>747275035/b/ was always ass.
