Blizzcon Classic+ predictions?>Classic is ported to the retail engine so they can maintain both versions easier>Retail graphics with a classic toggle>Gameplay the same as Classic>Basically TBC Pre-patch, with Blood Elfs and Draenei>Classic+ is basically 1.13 onward rather than a total redesign>Class balancing/talent fixes rather than wholesale class redesigns>Content is new Azeroth content, not Outland>Dark Portal becomes a raid/instance rather than opening into Outland>Kazzak / portal storyline is used to create the timeline split>No level-cap increase>New raid + dungeon + zone as the headline content>Blizzard plays it very safe because Classic+ cannot afford to flop
>>747261780Probably going to be terrible, even if they played it safe I don't have faith in them pumping out something meaningfulBlizzard is only really good at giving you chores to do
>>747262170Vanilla was always a chore simulator so that's fine. I just want more chores, not drastically different ones.
>>747261780it can't afford to flop but it can't help but flopthe bots, the rmt, the complete lack of gms, its gonna be sod 2.0
>>747261780>Classic is ported to the retail engine so they can maintain both versions easierthis already happened the moment classic launched
>>747262587It's not, it's a hybrid fork off of Legion.
>>747261780>Blizzcon Classic+ predictions?shit
>>747261780I don't care how horny the goats are.I'm not joining the alliance.
No draenei futa cock no buy
china continues to develop wow while irvine gets laid off for being useless
>>747263361That's why we're getting BElfs again
i'm hoping they remake the whole world. the cataclysm world & leveling update was really needed, it was just spoiled by bliuzz doing a bad, rushed job.so naturally the whole world revamp in classic+ will also be rushed, half-baked and full of cringe shit. best case we get a gated rollout like sod, letting us progress through levelling zones as they're finished (read: only elwynn & bareens are ready for launch)i'd love it if they unfucked talents and leveling a bit. front-load all the spec-defining abilities between lv10 to 20 and get rid of all the "+1 hit & +1 crit" talents. add a bunch of quest hubs in every zone, streamline quest overlap, add more quest mechanics that aren't just use an item or collect a drop.i haven't actually played retail wow b/c i was a pserv elitist so i'm trying to approach the whole thing with an open mind. maybe it will be good, it probably won't, i'll play for a month or two regardless just to see what's on offer.
i hope they don't listen to all the parsefags and stream followers. if i have to hear "classic andy" on vent i'm gonna fuckin gquit
>>747264289Disagree. They just need to add more leveling zones and add more quests, they don't need to fundamentally change the world.
>>747264518They don't need to, they already have the parsers money, they need to get back the people they lost. I think they know that those "people" are the loud minority. Only 2% of people even did the BFD raid in SoD.
Warcraft III: The Good Edition.
>>747264565they need to change the world enough to invalidate prior guides and metas. i have already played world of warcraft to death and back for twenty fucking years; if classic+ opens with rehashing the same shit we already did in classic and sod and nost and (...) then it'll already start to lose me
>>747264891Doesn't matter anyway, meta and all info proliferation is completely different than 20 years ago and unless you play solo and don't plan to interact with people at all, it will be part of your experience
>>747264891They don't need to change the world drastically to do that. New leveling zones will do that by themselves.Remember, Cataclysm is where they lost the vast majority of their players back in the day, and kept bleeding players from there to the point where they had to stop posting player numbers. I think they need to not make fundamental changes, so that people can explore the world they know but with new stuff.They should ban all addons in favor of better UI options and delete world buffs when you instance though.
>>747263140This. Why would you trust Retail developers to understand why Vanilla is so evergreen? SoD was a sneak peak in what you can expect: Retail Minus.
>>747264696>Only 2% of people even did the BFD raid in SoDNigga thats because SoD had TREMENDOUS launch hype numbers that died off incredibly fast. If you weren't doing BFD in the first phase, you weren't doing anything besides leveling to 25 and quitting.
>>747265535Some of SoD was good though. It was mostly them trying to figure out how much change you can make to Vanilla and still have it feel like Vanilla. They know what worked and what didn't.
>>747261780>Blizzcon Classic+ predictions?Whatever hack in charge of ruining classic walks out on stage, takes a massive fat shit on the middle and says 'Got your classic + right there ya filthy goyim animals', walks off stage, the rest of the blizzard team walk on and shit on top of it and they all say in unison, 'there are your 'changes'' before pissing on the front row of the audience and walking off stage, because that is what they genuinely think of their customer base.>Day 1 Cash shop.>Wow Classic+ Tokens>Housing accessible in wow classic+>Direct line from streamers and top wow guilds to blizzard management team.>replacing all blizzard support staff with ai, because who would notice anyway.>Ripping away every single thing that made classic+ and making it into another retail-esque progression server.>Ends blizzcon Classic+ presentation by showing a DLSS5 enhanced picture of Bobby Kottick's asshole as it zooms to his face and says .... 'I'm back baby.'
>>747265463they lost players in cata because the revamped zones were more miss than hit (rushed, cringe, half-complete). westfall pre-cata to post-cata was a huge downgrade for instance and it never really got unfucked.that's the matter at the beating heart of all this - whatever they do with classic+ it NEEDS to Not Suck. but this is nu-blizz of 2026 we're talking about, they don't know how to make good games anymore. it's going to lack a coherent vision and it's going to be rushed and half-baked.
>server? pvp>race? undead>class? rogueoh yeah, it's gaming time
>>747265463the addon ban in midnight went poorly, the game hugely benefits from addons, tweak the underlying api if an addon is doing too much
>>747261780season of even more discoveries
>>747265814players wanted a mechanical leveling revamp like bfa did not all the zones ruined, total misunderstanding of the problem by blizzard
>>747265841addons are a fucking pox and all their features should've been integrated into basegame
>>747265685You get to 25 in an afternoon. If people wanted to raid in phase 1 they would have. It aligns with Blizzard admitting that under 10% of people during vanilla did raids when they were current. Blizzard pivoting do hard to raiding as the core gameplay experience was always one of WoW's biggest failures
>>747261780Built for unwashed gamer cock.
>>747265803It will be Chris taking the shit on stage.I still believe in him...
>>747265803I do agree I bet they'll make housing available in Classic. It was too much work just for the retail guys. If Camelot is its own new thing for WoW moving forward, it's definitely gonna have the housing. I also could see them merging mounts/appearances/achievements.
>>747266017truth. the "endgame" experience is the worst the game has to offer. farm to get gear, grind rep for whatever, get a gearlist for raiding, log in 3/wk for whatever, farm for consumes/repairs in downtime. incredibly gay shit, like doing a chore not a hobby.leveling is goated because it's got such a varied bunch of activities and all of them contribute somehow. crafting gets you gear, fishing or trade for gold, questing and dungies for XP, all of this is so much better than doing dailies or grinding rep, yet all of this is what endgame wow is so keen to push players away from. i never want to see a fucking dire maul again.
>>747265961addons are where every feature starts retard, that’s where every good idea comes from
>>747265841Add-ons at best were a bandaid fix to poor/missing interface elements or bad encounter mechanics, and at worst game breaking/changing. They are a blight that do more harm than good.
>>747266074>It will be Chris taking the shit on stage.>I still believe in him...Thank you for that post, Chris, the joke around ruining everything about wow post Patch 10.0.7 was a really original shit idea, it's well april fools now and my phone has broken so just roll it back and we'll be good. P.S. You made wow so brainless even a drooling retard with one or 2 fingers can play it, well done to you.
>>747266017What I'm saying is that 90% of the people who showed up for SoD P1 were tourists. The same shit will happen with Classic+ launch, there will be insane hype that attracts a shit load of tourists who will quit before hitting level 30.
>>747266518>blizzards UI is poor so let’s remove every other UI and hope for the besttab targeting doesn’t even work in midnight right now, you trust those retards?
>>747265803>Housing accessible in wow classic+I have no idea how it works in retoilet, but WoW Classic+ having an open world housing system where land is finite and have to be fought/bartered for would fit in with the spirit of Classic wow. They wouldn't do this so it's probably best it isn't added.
>>747266679Chris quit during Wrath. He's been doing his best to unfuck what they turned retail into since 2022, but he can only do so much. Rumors are he is nuking retail entirely with the last titan, killing off everyone including the players and rebooting the whole world.
>>747266295>I do agree I bet they'll make housing available in ClassicWell this is part of a multi-national publically traded company about the only profitable part of microsoft apart from candy crush, so they'll put it whatever fucks the customer really hard for their money.>If Camelot is its own new thing for WoW moving forwardI was hoping they don't do anything with camelot for it is a silly place.>I also could see them merging mounts/appearances/achievements.No you don't really you don't, they'll make you get it all again just like before while making everything that much worse, because blizzard shit and piss in your mouth and you gobble it up and say 'please sir may I have some more?'
>>747266842>top guild becomes landlord jewsNo thanks
Classic + will end at ShadowlandsClassic ++ will be announced
>>747266941>I was hoping they don't do anything with camelot for it is a silly place.kek
>>747261780How many times does Blizzard have to re-release Classic before ya'll will let it go?
>>747266879>Chris quit during Wrath. He's been doing his best to unfuck what they turned retail into since 2022, but he can only do so much. If Your best, Chris, is turning up for a paycheck and rambling incoherently offloading your issues and problems into the wow story team, then signing off early and fucking off home you're doing a really shit job.>Rumors are he is nuking retail entirely with the last titan, killing off everyone including the players and rebooting the whole world.Logging into wow and it's just a picture of him taking a shit on the toilet, each shit that comes out is a random character and that is the new selection screen for the last titan.
>>747266879I hope you don't believe a reboot would be for the better.
>>747267226Just 1. The problem with era is the static world state, that's not what Vanilla was. It was changing all the time with updates, balance patches, and content. They don't even have to do anything drastic, just diverge as if TBC never happened and keep going from there, but without making retarded decisions along the way. Turtle and Ascension prove there's a market.
I can't wait for lore raping class race combos like Undead Paladin (teased in Discovery), an egregious cash shop plus battle pass (any noticable content development is going to be funded via micro transactions), endgame being farming mounts and cheevos while waiting on raid lockouts just like retail, and large scale PvP just being a lagfest because they will not invest in better server technology.
>>747267261>I hope you don't believe a reboot would be for the better.In the reboot you would login, go the quest area, log out, then login again to complete the quest, like that one in Harandar that human employees are too lazy and shit to actually fix.
>>747267641>muh loregrow up
I wish they made WoW more popular again so we'd get more wow pornyou still get the occasional neat animation but it's sparse out there
What we are really getting.>wod classic>classic sod new gummick>hardcore som>last titan preview>wrath anniversary from tbc.
>>747268152We have AI just make it yourself.
>>747269040shit looks like shit
>>747262290biggest annoyance in vanilla is that gold is only used for repair bills and single purchases(i.e. spells/riding skill etc), i want gold to have more uses beyond just that & ah fee should be bigger
>>747269472A bigger AH fee wouldn't solve the economy problem it will just make things cost more.But they could do stuff like a barber shop.They could make you have to pay every time you want to switch your dual spec, or remove dual spec entirely. Respec fees were a great gold sink. They could add more profession recipes that need expensive vendor components to make.
>>747269670if it eats up more gold, theres less gold for people to buy things with, hypothetically if theres 50% less gold in circulation, you think player driven prices would stay the same?
>>747269472how is that an annoyance? gold is used for more things: buying shit from other players. do you want more gold sinks? that would lower inflation a bit, but honestly it's not gonna put a dent in the army of bots.and even that is only relevant if you want to combat inflation, which really isnt an issue in an mmo.
>>747269778Yes, because they don't do shit about bots and RMT gold selling/buying. The absolute biggest thing they could do to fix the economy would be to crack down on this. Also ban boosters.
>>747269815buying shit from other players doesnt delete gold from circulation, there needs to be more interesting, good gold sinks
>>747269987...why? more gold in circulation causes inflation, which is actually what devs want since it allows new players to easily join the economy
>>747268004This. It's 2026.
>>747270394>inflation is good actuallyAre you Jewish or something?
>>747270518Inflation porn is good tho
>>747261780I predict there's a cinematic where the dark portal gets destroyed. Maybe before Illidan even enters it
>>747270518inflation in video games is not like inflation in real life. it has very little downsidesall it does is make static methods of earning gold (selling greys, quest rewards) less rewarding compared to dynamic gold methods (trading with other players)which is obviously something you want in an MMO.
>>747270654I would hate that. I would prefer they make it an event, where the players have to stop it from re-opening. Make it a raid where we kill Kazzak, or something like the AQ war effort.
>>747261780What do you mean retail engine? Classic is already on the legion engine. What?
>>747270518Just buy dreamfoil and arcanite bars bro, your gold will grow over time>everything gets devalued by bots farming 24/7nevermind
>>747270919yeah as I said earlier, bots are ten times the driver of inflation compared to the supposed lack of gold sinksbut even then, video game inflation is not a big deal. then again I havent played classic in years, maybe it is really dire. but blizz wants the sub money from bots, they're more profitable than real players since they get banned and just buy another sub.
>>747270874WoW starts 4 years after the end of frozen throne. Illidan has been in the Outlands for years already and I doubt Blizzard is going to let Illidan enter the outlands and then blow up the portal, that would mean they can't use him as a character
>>747261780That it will be complete fucking garbage like everything blizzard does?Literally no one at blizzard actually understands Warcraft anymore. For example, not a single person at blizzard could successfully write a single new quest in the style of vanilla quests. They HAVE to devolve into capeshit "You are the chosen one savior of Azeroth" story telling because it's all they have fucking done for the past 20 years. Yet people somehow expect them to develop a story, zones, raids, potentially new races, etc. that will fit seamlessly into vanilla's world? That's not even mentioning balancing new content. I mean seriously, isn't retail pvp balance currently absolutely fucked because of broken item scaling?Class design will likely be absolutely fucked because modern blizz doesn't understand the idea of classes having unique roles and specializations. Instead, everything has to be a carbon copy of each other with a different coat of paint. They WILL break the class design in some way with their attempts to "balance" certain talents and specs.Not to mention that the lore. Will they be ret-conning literally everything after vanilla so they can actually try to unfuck the lore that has been shit on by gay furry communists for the last 20 years? I would be pleasantly surprised if so. Yet Metzen, the fucking retarded faggot who help put wow on the path of destruction is still around. So, any new writing will STILL be written by gay furry communists trying to push a message rather than writing a good story.AAAANNNNNDDDD the FUCKING in game shop WILL be front and center. BUY YOUR LEVEL 60 BOOSTS HERE PAYPIGGY, LOOK AT THESE NICE MOUNTS DONT YOU WANT TO BUY THEM? HOW ABOUT SOME GOLD? WE DO FUCK ALL ABOUT GOLD SELLING INFACT WE FUCKING SELL IT OURSELVES NOW!AND THE GAME WILL STILL BE CENSORED TO HELL. DO YOU LIKE FRUITBOWLS AND COVERED TITS? CAUSE THATS WHAT YOU'RE GETTING BECAUSE BLIZZARD HAAAAS TO GET ONE OVER ON THOSE EVIL FASCIST CHUDS.
>>747271147>portal is destabilized>demons start pouring into Azeroth>Illidan comes out to help you close itThere's easy solutions to these problems
>>747261780The gameplay and world has potential out the ass and is honestly not that hard to make really good.What is critical to me is shit like layering and bots, which are huge red flags. They'll never ever address bots on what is basically a PR event for themselves, but bots are way worse for the economy on classic servers, than retail, where they fucked it themselves by selling gold.Also if we're talking economy. They should nerf some mage farming spots, because otherwise they that shit will ruin the economy as well.
Make GDKP as a real system in the game and instead of the gold being distributed to players it gets deleted
>>747271578Kek. But what do I play then?
>>747275140super developing marketable skills to compete in the global labor market reloaded
I think it's gonna be good
>>747275140If you MUST play wow because you're addicted then I recommend setting up an Azerothcore server with playerbots on a vm, it's really easy to do yourself and was what I did personally. but there's the Single Player Project (and other repacks) if you are lazy and don't mind risking a virus/crypto minor if you download from the wrong place/people. Of course, if you only play wow for the "community" (a community comprised of bucket shitter meta-autists, chinks/beaners, and the mentally ill) and can't fathom the idea of playing with bots Then just play on a private server of your choice. Literally anything is better than giving blizzard money at this point. (Guess what though. You're still playing with bots on any server you chose. Whether it's a private server or blizzards own, you just don't know it.)
Stopped reading after first two ideas, fucking outrageously stupid. People do not like how retail looks or feels, the people interested in classic+ don't want them inching anywhere closer to that long burnt out dumpster fire
>>747276468But I like playing with real people. I don't want to play with chatgpt
>>747276702>Of course, if you only play wow for the "community" (a community comprised of bucket shitter meta-autists, chinks/beaners, and the mentally ill) and can't fathom the idea of playing with bots Then just play on a private server of your choice. Literally anything is better than giving blizzard money at this point.
>>747261780solo focussed, overworld is a classic slow burn questing adventure to immerse in the world, zones, factions etc, but all instances and dungeon etc type content is roguelite inspired to be repayable. swap multiclass loadouts in town, deeper itemization and super rares like artifacts. i made the whole thing up because i can't imagine anything possibly being good involving playing with other WoW players.if its just SoD+ enjoy your RMT, "link chievo and bring the metuh spec only", just to wipe in insipid babby content where everyone plays like a brazilian monkey (because they are).
>>747261780slop
>>74727829490% of Google Images is slop at this point and I stopped caring to try and filter it. If I see boobs that's good enough.
>>747261780DOA if gdkp is banned
>>747278467DOA if it's not
>>747278538No just full of RMT bots instead, gdkp was unieonically trickle down for healthy economy, without it nu classic is almost empty because most people left
I am kinda interested in playing Warcraft because I find the werewolf guys cool but...13 buckarinoos a month+however much I need to pay for the expansion...well it doesn't sound like a financially responsible choice for me is what I'm saying
>>747261780I don't give a single shit about the game. Post more goats.
>>747261780I'd rather fap to cute AI slop than play any Blizzard game ever again.Post more
Thoughts on if Blizzard should re-introduce Draenei and Blood Elves back into Classic?Let's run on the assumption that they DON'T give them shamans and paladins this time around.
>>747278724both factions would be nothing but those races
>>747266518You are genuinely retarded. Blizzard demonstrated they are incapable of removing 20 years of addons and giving proper replacements. Should they get rid of addons and give built-in alternatives that are AS GOOD as what addons gave? Yes. Are they capable of that? No. End of discussion. Addons are here to stay, and if that upsets you then cope, seethe, and fuck off nigger
>>747264150Never ever
>you don't understand bro, i need my 3.... 2.... 1.... BAM! RUN AWAY LITTLE GIRL *text to speech girl* dodge *alarm sirens blare* *phone rings* *dildo vibrates* addons, ok? I just dothese """people""" aren't even playing a game anymore. Just pure Pavlovian conditioning based responses
>>747265803>replacing all blizzard support staff with ai, because who would notice anywayI would notice. Because it would be an improvement.
>>747268152WoW porn was shit from the ass at the height of its popularity. AI slop is delicious in comparison.
>>747279591I disagree
>>747266842t. never played any mmo past 00's
>>747278659GDKP is a core reason for RMT bots
I'm not interested, there is an open source server emulator for turtle wow and someone is developing one for conquest of azeroth, both with bot support. I will simply play the better classic+ versions myself.Maybe if after spending hundreds of hours going through those I still want more I'll consider official c+ but I'm sure by then the private server scene will have moved on to new innovations.
>>747278724>>747278815I rather have Ogres for Horde and High elves for Alliance.
>>747280638>someone is developing one for conquest of azeroth, both with bot supportSounds cool. One of these days I'll get an Azerothcore repack with bots. This shit unironically sounds better as an offline romp to me now.
>>747280702blood elves as depicted in TBC fit the horde like a glove. they should have stayed psychopathic meth addicts
>>747280984True. Fuck Velen for curing them.
>>747280984>blood elves as depicted in TBC fit the horde like a gloveAs complete fucking retards? Yeah, I agree in that case. If they were written well and with actual thought beyond "how do we force Blood Elves into the Horde to appease chinks." They would have been done better to act as a great foil for the Alliance so that both factions could do shady shit to each other to keep the faction war story going in a way that makes sense. Rather than the Alliance being forced down a path of "Blue guys are good guys"
I'll be a night elf woman and make your cock feel good...as long as you love me.
>>747282071Red is dead, sorry.
>>747280984I would argue that the two factions operate on different themes. The Alliance are high fantasy with the major distinction of Night Elves being a "higher" fantasy than the rest of the Alliance.The Horde, however, is truly split. The "Main Horde" of the orcs, trolls and tauren have a Sword and Sorcery (and specifically Sword and Sandal) theme, while the Forsaken are dark fantasy. The Blood Elves fit snugly in with the same dark fantasy niche as the Forsaken. The problem starts when you act like these two are all one big "Horde" group instead of just being allies of necessity. The "evil sorcerer" Forsaken and Blood Elves absolutely do not fit in as full members of the decidedly "Barbarian Hero" Horde. Which is why they should have kept with the "alliance of convenience" shit.
>>747282202Would be great if they made a third faction, and forsaken and blood elves split off into it.
>>747282071I'm more interested in your lumber.
>>747282071what if my cock is small?
>>747282436I have a solution
>>747283102fuck off, i will find someone who will let me rape them with my massive three and a half incherthey WILL gag on my dick, and i don't need (you)
honestly wow can only be saved by people posting wow ai slop porn, specifically of draenei (body type 2 ofc) and nelves. belves are allowed
>>747269924Oy vey this post is antisemitic the gold farmer is a player too
I rather let warcraft in the hands of bethesda dallas than any californian ever again.
>>747283516Atom shop is more jewish than anything Blizzard ever did and I'm not joking.
>>747266074lol
>>747283516>TES6 flops>Asha Sharma pegs Todd Howard and tells him he's going to make a single player Warcraft RPG
>>747261780what if all are you are wrong? what if the worldmap is completely new, and so are the classes, the quests, the way loot works, the dungeons, the social aspect... maybe they still have it in them and make something new, original and exciting
>>747283940
>>747283940>what if they just make it a completely different game from scratch for no reason?
>>747284207wow2 is a prequel set during the ordering of azerothkalimdor is in its pangea modefinale is the burning legion's invasion through the well of eternity
>>747284313>trolls and night elves and fuck all else
>>747284313please noi have chronic prequel exhaustion at this point
>>747283940Too much work for not enough monetisation
>>747284313I don't care. I want classic to continue in a non-retarded way. That's it. TBC was a mistake and they kept compounding their mistakes.
>>747261780>predictionsLevel boost and WoW tokens buyable 1 month in.
>>747284434sorry lil broyou WILL get a tumblr-ified Vanilla with TBC/Wrath tier bring the player not the class + cash shop>>747284391uhm you forgot about the earthen, tauren, haranir, human tribes, vrykul, furbolgs, vulpera, etc.
Is this cringe?
>>747284560how does that affect me?>>747284631>TBCYeah, it and Wrath introduced everything people hate about modern WoW.
>transmog was a mistak- >>747284631
>>747284631SOVL
I know you faggots will eat up klassic ploos the astrosecond it comes out, who are you fooling?
>>747284207not from scratch. they can use the same models for characters and spells, but add new shit that feels different.people are commenting how paladins shamans and specially druids need reworks to fit in all parts of the game, so what if they make classes new from the ground up. obviously they have to still have the vanilla feel and be impactful spells and a good talent tree.another thing is the world. we all know every single corner of it. ok, so keep the same locations but change their geography, have completely new and different quests. add some twists to the mobs we all know, swap their locations or make them more integral to the world, instead of just "mob spawner zones". (roaming mobs, more patrols, more tie ins with reputations, maybe more active combat zones..)as for social aspect and loot i dont know, but something that doesnt cause real world problems/drama. i'd say fuck it and make every single piece of good gear in late game to be part of recipes, that way its more social and professions are even more valued. it also makes time sinks in professions more important other than just a gold sinkthose are some spitballing ideas, i dont know, just have some imagination
>>747284434This.No to Blood elvesNo to retcon DreaneiBoth are the tourist magnets that lead to the faggotry to where retail is now.
>>747284668The only TBC original assets in that shot are the shoulders, chest and shield.
>>747284716It's me, I'm that faggot. I will try it regardless but it remains to be seen if I will keep playing it.
>>747284780>t. The Raped
>>747284716I wont because I wont give money to fags.
>>747284716Yeah, I'm gonna do some flex raiding with my friends until it stops being fun.Then we'll move on to a better game.
>>747284771But yes to worgen/goblins still, right?
I WILL be playing my space goat girlI WILL be playing my goblin girl because my friends are fags and will probably still yell "FOR THE HORDE!" unironically if they play again
>>747284927No to Vulperans too. Faggots all the added race fuck Micro Acti Blizz and their FAGGOT devs all of them fuck them all I hate them
I remember jerking it to a story on darknest about a night elf warden running into a horsecocked draenei futa bathing in a moonwellgood times
>>747261780Vanilla wow stops being fun at 45. Everything else is an unfinished bore of empty desert wasteland and 30 minute walking paths followed by 10 minute flights from stormwind.storm wind. Unless they drastically change the endgame of classic wow there's literally 0 reason to keep playing on one. Unless youre a diehard fan
>>747285073Yeah I got no interest in vulpera or the reskin racesWe're in accord then
>>747285181>endgameNo, they should focus on fleshing out the entire world from 1-60 instead of just throwing in more garbage slop for mazed retards and stroomers.Give me new leveling zones, quests, and dungeons.
>>747285073>>747285236>They don't like Dark Iron Dwarves
Only new race should be Goblins and they should work like Pandarens do in that you can choose which faction you wanna join.Also epic long quest at 60 where you can join the Scarlet Crusade and be a 3rd faction.
>>747285265This. They need to add more quests with less insane travel time and more zones so people levelling multiple characters have different paths through.Endgame is something you do after you've finished the actual game, which is 1-60
>>747285336>dwarves>but they're blackDEI
How has it not leaked yet?Blizzcon is, what, Saturday?You know their minimum wage workers have been setting up all week. We should have blurry phone screenshots by now.
>>747285448Dark Irons can be pale too. They're also the coolest Dwarf clan and we should be able to unlock Dark Iron customization options via some big questline with the Thorium Brotherhood or something.
>>747285496actually it may be because of this >>747269563
>>747285336Playable Dark Iron dwarves don't make sense for vanilla, neither do Dragonmaw orcs since Garrosh recruited them.Wildhammer dwarves would be fine though, they were friendly in WC3 too. Amani too but fuck Blizzard.
>>747285496blizzard doesnt really have leaksthey have dataminers at times, but theyve been working with the same crews for years on blizzcon
>>747285584>he forgot the Thorium Brotherhood was a canon organization in vanillaPlayable Dark Irons are perfectly fine.
>Blizzard ran this artist off
>>747285496There's nothing to leak.
>>747285647>That undeadWay cooler than the undead in-game.I mean all of them are but the undead especially.
>>747285496Microsoft's ChatGPT powered killdrones are patrolling the venue aggressively searching for people using their phones.There have been several false positives, but it's a risk they've accounted for.
>>747285496there's a sizeable bonus to be had if no one leaks.
>>747285647back when taurens were minotaurs and not furbait
>>747285860Just do it bro
>>747285448WE WUZ TITANS N SHIEEET
>>747285496I genuinely and unironically hope they just say "It's coming and releasing today, we're telling you nothing, go explore what we have made"
>>747285336>Dark Iron DwarvesMaybe if Blizzard would commit to doing them right, which they won't.Your franchise's evil fire dwarves:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-DpV57YJCsThe evil fire dwarves she tells you not to worry about:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTFywoAXuQU
>>747286165sorry there will be a closed beta for content creators that have video guides for everything the day it opens
>>747286165It's not going to release mid ceremony, nor will it release during the immediate Last Titan hype cycle while the devs do their rounds of interviews and prescripted previews to gain preorders.I also doubt they want to go up againt OoT and GTA.October if you're lucky. March-May if you're realistic.They actually hold a beta and spoil everything if they hate you. With beta access guaranteed if you preorder Last Titan.
>>747286229Warhammer is such a shit setting when you think about it for more than five minutes. Even worse than WoW. You have the objectively good and correct factions of normal races then you have hellfuck evil retards destined to lose and canonically burn in rapehell forever. Who the fuck likes Chaos anything? There's no world building to have or to expand, it's literally just good guys versus worthless demon niggers. And they're all homogenous in Chaos. Chaos dorfs, dark eldar, norsca whatever, it doesn't matter if they're different on surface they all serve the exact same pantheon of 4 one-dimensional noncharacters.
>>747286435>>747286165They would never do that simply because faggot streamers would throw a fit that they're stranded at Blizzcon while everyone else is booting up the game.
>>747286814>And they're all homogenous in Chaos. Chaos dorfs, dark eldar, norsca whatever, it doesn't matter if they're different on surface they all serve the exact same pantheon of 4 one-dimensional noncharacters.The Chaos Dwarves don't worship the main four Chaos Gods. They worship Hashut, the chaos god of fire, tyranny and industry who often appears in the form of a demonic bull.There are no dark eldar in Warhammer Fantasy. If you're referring to the Dark *Elves*, they don't worship the chaos gods either. They worship the Cytharai, the "Twilight Pantheon" of elven gods who dwell in the underworld, and uphold Khaine, the elven god of murder, as their primary god instead of Asuryan.Only the Norscans are more typical Chaos worshipers, and even they have their own thing going on where they view the Chaos gods as a pantheon consisting of "The Hound," "The Eagle," "The Crow," and "The Serpent." They also have a tendency to keep them at arms length instead of the full devotion you see in the typical full cultist.So, no. This is wrong.
>>747287367https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjHclWPVij0
>>747287367Yeah I stand corrected. I thought all dark knifears are Slaaneshi whores. Also had no idea Chorfs are not into 4 cookie cutters.Chaos not-marines and Norsca are still shit though. Also the existence of Skaven and their fans ruins this setting for me. Not to mention the Shit Times and Smegmar.
