APOLOGIZE
>>747266016Should've based it on the original art.
>>747266363based on facts and logic
>>747266363HOLY FIPPYBIP
ok? Am I supposed to give a crap? It looks like shit either way.
>>747266016Who cares, it looks like shit
>>747266363this, the>it looks like shit on purpose!!!excuse never worked before and its not working now, fuck off with creepy doll link
>>747266016>>747266451Stop motion and puppetry inspired artstyles are the best way to emulate N64 animations and atmosphere without resorting to low poly and I will stand by that
>>747266016Cool, still looks like shit.
>>747266016
>>747266016I don't care if it's based on Japanese marionettes, the original game wasn't. Why do Zelda games need to look like toys?
>>747266451>link snaps his head in ganondorf's direction>makes circle with his hand and points
>>747266016>It's based on this wrong and retarded thing, actually
>>747266016>no you see, it was intended to look like shit!>oh, well in that case... it's fantastic! now I love inbred retard link! take my money!
>>747266016>It's supposed to look like shit!Neat. Nintendo should've just hired that one guy
Who cares what it's inspired by if it looks like AI UE slop
>>747266667It looks the way it does for a reason, you personally thinking it looks like shit is not relevant.
>>747266016That was a retarded fucking decision then and looks terrible
>>747266016WTF I love remake now!
>>747266709The grower needs fungus growing on him
awesome discord thread bro
Do Ningyogeki also feature nonsensical overdesigns on basic tunics?
should have been all or nothing. not all characters look like that so they stand out too much
>>747266016Those slant-eyed yellow niggers actually think their culture and art are worth a damn. Funny.
>>747266016i feel like people are being too cruel to the japanese here. they're not malicious people at all. they're clearly trying to give people something nice even if the art style isn't to everyones liking. unlike in the west where fat ugly whores with blue hair shove blacks into every ps4 game about BEING A BETTER DAD FOR MY SOOOOOOOOON
>>747266016>Some niggers: yo, this looks kinda shit>Imamura: Actually, it's based on this style>Some niggers: ...yeah, but it looks like shit
>>747266779>It's based on this wrong and retarded thing, actuallyI didn't realise it was based on you
>>747266016What the fuck kinda Ningyomesugaki was Takayaki Imaumuramura playing with when he came up with Ruto?
>>747266016no
Still buying it.
I never want to hear tendies talking shit about FF7 againThey translated the old OG designs perfectly into new designs that didnt look like fucking muppets
>>747266016Based art style choice. Filters all casuals, just like DQ7R
>>747266709This is every youtube comment section under Nintendo game reveals.
Skyward Sword was supposed to be inspired by impressionistic painters like Paul Cézanne too, its barely noticeable in the final game and the artsyle just looks pretty generic and bad. Same here
>>747266956no, but I'm sure ninten yearolds will come up with something to justify that
>>747267030So you think it's based on me and think I'm wrong and retarded, ergo it's wrong and retarded, actually. What a clever guy.
>>747266451>>747266016Except it doesn't look like Japanese marionettes because all the backgrounds look like generic Unreal slop and the animations are too smooth.This isn't a Wind Waker, Skyward Sword or even a Link's Awakening remake situation in which only retards and trolls complained. The OoT remake looks like shit.
>>747267096Nah FF7R is still ass but it's not the most soulless ass ever anymore
>>747266016That makes it even worse, it's now malice instead of incompetence. No one asked for this.
>>747267096Except for Tifa who's design was mauled.Also graphics are basically the only thing 7R did well, they shit the bed in every other aspect.
>>747266709the idea that there are deluded nintendo fans that think people will look back fondly of realistic taxidermied Fox
did we ask for that?
I understand these developers who try to change tje original, because working on remakes is awful. Even when the original work is really bad and needs an overhaul, it's still tedious and frustrating work, and it quickly starts to feel pointless. There's no way to keep your spirits up when all you're doing is reworking something created by others (or sometimes, by yourself; the work is still thankless in that case, and I can say this with authority because I've reworked several things I'd created in the past).This culture of remakes, remasters, and reinterpretations should come to an end.
>>747266956Also everything looks wet as fuck on that suit. Its like they fucked up specularity or roughness
>>747267096>>747267201
>>747266451THE VALLEY'S CLOAKED IN DEEPEST BLUESHADOWS OF EAGLES ACROSS THE MOONENDURE THE PAIN IT'S EASY NOWIN WORDS CAN I SAY IT
Anything to pretend it's not AI slop
>>747266016But it's a game about a Hylian boy, not about a puppet who ran from the theatre
>>747266709the SF designs did grow on me, in as much as I think they're hideous in a funny way now.They still look like creepy ass puppets though.
>>747267234what ya mean man tifa is hot AFtheyre making more porn with her new design than ever before in OG
Nintendo saw those fucking UE5 videos a couple years ago and went "say less"
Wow, thing is based on other thing? Now I can't criticize it!
>>747267096I give the FF7 remakes a lot of shit, but not for the graphics. Literally the best possible visual translation you could hope for today.
>>747266956Well, yes. Obviously any kind of puppets or stop motion project features high stylization while also keeping a high grade of variety of textures and details, which is easy to obtain given you just have to produce one set and one puppet as opposed to having to draw every photogram each time.
>>747266016Less is more
>>747267193>or even a Link's Awakening remake situationFunkopops are ugly.
why do people care?
>>747267096Ah, yesI love when anime style turns into realistic slop with a hint of anime, which makes all the cringey *japanese humor* scenes giga cringey because at least in xenoblade chronicles, they look anime enough Shit like creepy hamster koala hybrid moogles never should've left the draft roomff7r was, is, and will continue to be a mistake
Pet Semetery shit. All remake faggots get the rope.
>>747266016>it's influenced by this thing that looks unappealing Is this supposed to make it better?
>>747267279there is no excuse for nintendo's updated character designs to look so horrible by comparison when even SE can get it rightthen again nomura is a character designer so he is extra autistic about getting the visual look at least right while nintendo looks like it's just winging this shitalso the NPCs in the town market look even worse
>>747267345Exactly. Are we supposed to give a shit? Just because it was inspired by something doesn't automatically mean it's good or makes sense, what the fuck?It looks bad. It doesn't matter why it looks bad, it just looks bad. Fucking. Fix it.
>>747267061God I want those webbed feet in my mouth
>>747267430Right look better though, left look like ai
>>747266709modern pokemon fan
>>747266016>influenced by Ningyogeki (Japanese Marionettes)It literary looks like the fucking few generic indie games people were jerking over during late PS3 and early PS4 era.
>>747267449Graphics are all the matters. Gameplay is a means to look at3D models.
>>747267430Same retardation as Halo remake. They can't fucking do anything anymore. They can't create anything.
>>747267114the opposite, soulless design appeal to the casuals
>>747266709it's already growing on meit looks just like it did when I was a kid, that's precisely how it looked and my dick is growing
>>747267478>I love when anime style turns into realistic slop with a hint of animethats literally what this shit with link looks like right now toothey tried making him more realistic than BOTW Link but he looks like a very creepy mocapped puppet
>>747267380They covered her up and censored her, her face also just looks weird. The perfect 3D Tifa was in Disssidia NT.>theyre making more porn with her new design than ever before in OGBlatantly false.
>>747266016I call bullshit. The concept art doesn't reference that. They are retconning the weirdo art.
>>747266016That makes sense. It still looks too wet.
>>747267096ff7 could look way better, but for the psuedo realistic style FF has been pushing for almost 2 decades now I will agree it is relatively faithful. yuffie in INTermissions design was perfect for that style and Rebirth was a downgrade though.
>>747267449I distinctly remember Link having a funny triangular nose and weird feet when I was a kid. I don't know where people get off pretending N64 graphics looked realistic at the time.
why does he need to base it off of anything other than, idk, the game you are remaking?
>>747267430I was living under a rock last week and could not believe gameplay dropped. The first two thoughts in my head was "Looks like Nintendo hired this man and Link's clothes are too busy/over designed"
>>747267586You are a casual, that's why you don't like them.
>>747266016>It looks like shit on purpose What is it with the Zelda series in particular that makes the art directors over there want to make everything look like Hummels?
>>747267614yeah it was a fucking N64 game, they just had a limited polygon budget to work with. didnt have shit to do with an 'art style' or 'making them look like puppets'they are just inventing excuses after the fact for being lazy and halfassing it with a remake 28 years later
>>747266858they intentionally picked a awkward, stilted and uncanny doll-like visual style for link. don't bitch that the model is indeed awkward, stilted, uncanny and doll-like you fat retard. they could make mario an actual pile of shit in the next mario game and say they were inspired by south park and mr hankey and you guys would fucking defend that too
Not going to lie its growing on me
>>747267527Right looks more like AI. even though left probably literally is AI, the right has all those pointless patterns and greebles that are a trademark of deep fried AI sloppa
>>747266016just like the developers intended
>>747267193>because all the backgrounds look like generic Unreal slopYou know puppets are real, tactile objects right?Naturally the world they're in reflects that
>>747267193For me it's that it's incosistent. Main characters look like oversized babies, but then the charcters in the town look like 3ds oot style. It extends to the clothes too, where younglinks tunic is excessively tattered and detailed but the rest of the clothing has nowhere near the same texture.
Westerners want gritty black culturally enriched men, not japanese marionettes
>>747267449art style matters
>>747266016Oh, so it looks bad on purpose!
>>747267807Right doesn't look like AI at all because its clean. AI can't do intense detail without getting confused and melting the details.
>>747266016Yeah IDK I don't hate it but like, it's not really what I wanted.I would have prefered just straight up tech demo wii u looks, that kinda thing.
>>747267851I can't wait for Fetal-Alcohol Link to be playable in the next smash
>>747267193Literally showed a japanese marionette that looks very much like link. He knows nintendo in and out and has worked with the franchise in some of their best titles.Perhaps now youre part of the retards, anon.
>>747267430grok add more detail but don't touch the swordleaf high detailed HD potato bags fabric
>>747267478FF7R's dogshit Nomura writing is a separate issue from its very good art design
>>747266016Maybe the art should've been influenced by something that didn't make it look bad
>>747267896>constantly brings up blacks unpromptedMutt's law
>I was only pretending to be retarded
>>747267449The face of "who cares that they changed it. It doesn't matter." Ok so why did they change it if it doesn't matter?
That actually explains a lot.Something about link's tunic and hat texture threw me off and i couldnt place why.Its meant to be like miniature clothes.
>>747267449who is this charlie kirk
>>747266709Nobody likes a shower, better with a grower.
I don't understand why this suddenly means the look is immune to criticism now.
>>747266709it grooed on me.
>>747268031ur a nazi
>>747268007getting there
>>747266709
>>747266016Why? I nailed it.They look like regular dolls or or porcelain grandma dolls.The eyes gave it away immediately. Bug eyed baby faced monsters.
>>747268007i got this
>>747268108The problem is that the rest of the game doesn't look like that, it's just generic UE asset store environment + anti soul gas + overdone post processing effects + shitty UE plastic ground that reflects the sun + relatively normal nice-looking cartoon NPCsI have a feeling someone from Nintendo worked really hard on perfecting Link's look, iterating lots of times, then the outsource studio just did whatever with the rest since it's a low budget remake
>>747266016So I'm supposed to like it because it's based on ugly puppets? No.
>>747266858>you personally thinking it looks like shit is not relevantIt is, though, because I won't buy the game and they'll have another sales failure on another stitch 2 release.The game looks like fucking shit and a shitton of people think the same way.
>>747266016SOVL
>>747268279stop feeding AI's data.
>>747268279Fuck yeah
>>747268108Except Saria clothes don't look like that. The art style is a mess.
>>747268279>OMG IT'S LIKE AI>ask ai to do it>it fails and requires stupid prompts wayyy to long to be just "ai style"
>>747268180>the look is immune to criticism now.Nobody said this
>>747268279Yes... that tunic feels like it has been remade yet feels somewhat nostalgic. Perfect!
>>747266451Pupetkino
>>74726851941%
>>747266451>>747266016So what? That doesn't mean it looks good
>>747266016sorry but tranime fags are uncultured retards so we can't have different art styles
>>747268279
>>747266016>hmmm ackshually it's based on X! So it can't look badAre all tendies becoming poketards?
>>747268774this already looks ten times better
>>747267193>tranimals>retarded posticonic
>>747266858>It looks the way it does for a reasonNot a good reason.
>>747266016It's ugly though. So I won't apologize.
>>747266016bro that puppet looks like shit LMAO
>>747267986lol, I guess now we know why links mom dropped him off at dekus daycare.
>>747267201Is this real?
>>747267193WWs characters proportions could be tweaked to be better as shown in most of the concept art but its fine overallSS link and zelda were ugly though, but the rest of the game was fineLA funko designs are shit you dumb faggotOOT is obnoxiously busy and character faces are uncanny shit that looks like old rankin bass puppets.
>>747268519
>keep loading screens to "stay true to the original">do this to the designsMIMS
>>747268981> he needs AI to cope with the fact it looks like shit and wallow in confirmation biasLMAO
>>747267367>in as much as I think they're hideous in a funny way now.That was the whole point of these designs. How people has trouble underdtanding this is beyond me.
>>747268774>it's okay, there's no violation
>>747268774NINTENDO HIRE THIS PROMPT
>>747268279damn this looks much better lmfao
>>747266016what the cuck is that?
>>747266016>You guys just don't get it's supposed to be shit on purpose!
>>747268279it's growing on me already
>>747267430Nintendo, hire THIS man
>>747268981based accelerationist anon brining us one step closer to cultural collapse, you're doing satans work
It's growing on me, because it's cancer.
>>747269265
>>747266016How about not base an all time classic like Ocarina of Time on something that has nothing to do with it and instead use the original artwork as the inspiration? What's next? A Majora's Mask remake but it's no longer dark and weird because it's based on origami? Why not make something original at that point?
Never hire indians
>>747269185it grew on me! I don't think I'll ever be able to go back to a version without a potato bag tunic
>>747268774No wonder the AI thinks it violated TOS, it turned Young Link into chud.
>>747267509>when even SE can get it rightWhere's Cid's cigar then? Where are Cloud's muscles and hair? Where's his personality Why does everyone in the remake have noodle arms and joints? Kys
This is a neat concept but they were too cowardly to go all the way with it, to really go for something stylistically bold that really emulates puppet theater, so instead we get this weird mix of doll-like characters in pseudorealistic outfits and environments. Which simply looks terrible.
>>747266016ah yes the known game series about marionettes
>>747269434yeah but it grew INSIDE you?
>>747266451Thunderbolt Fantasy is Taiwanese puppetry you fucking poser
The only marionettes I want to hear about are Lime, Cherry and Bloodberry.MISS ME with whatever the fuck they did to Ocarina of Time with these "marionette-inspired" visuals, it looks terrible no matter the reason.
>>747267193>Link's Awakening remake>in which only retards and trolls complainedRetarded troll detected. If you can't blatantly tell why people were upset about the artstyle from this image, you're an incredibly disingenuous scumbag, or too stupid to be real.
>>747267096Weird bait. When did Tifa have censorstocking on her legs and a censorbra under her top before?
>your move, nintendo
>>747269418now show the side profile
>>747269556it looks the same desu, it has already grown on me, because it always looked like this, that's exactly how I saw it when I was a kid
>>747269651>when I was a kidYes, today.
>>747268981what did grok mean by this
>>747269553tranime lost puppet kino won
>>747267271These marionettes just happened to get cut loose from a diddy party before they could get the baby oil off.
>>747268774>it's ok theres no violationlmfao
>>747268774>It just put a copy of himself in a skirt in the background.Saria in shambles.
>>747269725that's against the rules, you can't post if you are underage.
>>747269773>le diddy partyfound the underage zoomnigger
>>747266858>you personally thinking it looks like shit is not relevant.Hey didnt you gamingcirclejerk pedophiles say the same thing for concord and highguard and forspoken and dustborn and the saints row reboot?
>>747266858I raped your dog but I did it for a reason.
>this game looks like shit for an amazing reason
>>747269948Are you a Nintendo employee? If you are, I fully support this. You can't do anything wrong, it's literally not possible.
>>747269948puppetkino haters are admitted dog rapists now kek
>>747269535It's honorary jap thanks to the butcher
>>747269948based
>>747269873Just eat your humble pie, fag.You're going to get a lifetime of Diddy baby oil jokes in the next 3 months.And you deserve each one.
>>747267449Well shit if it's Charlie approved I guess I like it now.
>>747270085the game doesnt look like puppet theater thoughit looks like weirdos somewhat resembling dolls clashing with a world that doesnt fit that aesthetic at all
>>747269948but I didn't even give you $80 yet!
>>747270085to be fair he had a reason
>>747266016kino
nintendo fans are just disney adults now, they behave 1:1
>>747266858Me standing outside your house with a baseball bat is for a reason, you walking out of your front door is not relevant.
>>747268774>It's okay, there's no violationFucking kek
>>747266363>>747266585>>747266667>>747266709>>747266779>>747266848you guys have done this for every single zelda game since the n64every single one>REEE, WIND WAKER LOOKS BAD AND CARTOONY AND CHILDISH, WHAT THE FUCK>REE TWILIGHT PRINCESS LOOKS MUDDY AND DARK, TOO MUCH BLOOM, UGLY NPCS>REE SKYWARD SWORD LOOKS BLURRY AND GROSS, LINK LOOKS UGLY, THE SKY IS FULL OF BORING YELLOW FART CLOUDS>REE BREATH OF THE WILD LOOKS WASHED OUT AND BLAND, THE COLORS ARE TOO DULL, THE FIDELITY IS TRYING TO DO TOO MUCH WITH THE SWITCHS HARDWARE>REE LINKS AWAKENING REMAKE LOOKS LIKE PLASTIC TOYS, IT LOOKS STUPID AND OVERLY SIMPLEand now>REE OOT REMAKE LOOKS LIKE AI SLOP, LOOKS LIKE NINTENDO HIRED THIS MAN, UE GARBAGEI hate defending corporate bullshit, I really do, genuinely, but why the fuck should anyone at nintendo take you seriously or listen to you faggots ever, when you will never be satisfied?
>>747266363>Should've based it on my childhood. That was thirty years ago, sorry.
>>747269948Get em, chief.
>>747267061>>747266016Kind of ironic because Ningyo translates to fish person
>>747266016Well, that explains my The Dark Crystal vibes more.And since i think TDC is uncanny valley it changes NOTHING.
>>747268396I still can't get over how fast right wingers just dropped and forgot about this guy. They were screaming bloody revolution and martyrdom for like 3 days and then memoryholed his entire life in less than a week.
>>747270182>t. dog rapist
>>747270402Wind Waker still looks terrible and I'll hold that opinion until I fucking die. Twilight Princess was a huge upgrade. Fucking idiot.
>>747266363FPBPThese remakes would look so much better if they followed the fucking concept art instead of doing weird gimmicky styles based on misinterpretations of the in-game models/sprites.
>>747266451If its based on stuff like this then it can't be criticised anymore. This is uber epic.
>>747270125ayo diddybludunc frfr on godstein
>>747270525this opinion just disqualifies yourself completely in a discussion about visual design, sorry
>>747270402Notice how you didn't include games no one complained about, since they were actually good, like ALBW. And yeah, all these looked like shit, all for different reasons.
>>747270497They drank their own koolaid and thought all the pro-right astroturfing actually reflected real public sentiment, when in reality the average person either doesn't know them or fucking hates them.
>>747270579
>>747266451>>747266016I would like it more if it leaned into this look more, but it doesn't. it's got an uncanny realism to it
>>747270402No one here is complaining to get Nintendo's dumb fuck thought processes to change you moron.
>>747270402all those were and are true.
>>747270402Wind Waker released before 4chan was created and is an original concept, not a remake.
>>747266016These poeple are too old to be directing these games. Leave it to millenials already.
>>747270645>le redditroll faceun crine son
>>747266363Absolutely.
>>747270402Noticed the common problem yet?>REE WINDWAKER LOOKS BAD BECAUSE IT ISN'T OCARINA OF TIME>REE TWILIGHT PRINCESS LOOKS BAD BECAUSE IT ISN'T OCARINA OF TIME>REE SKYWARD SWORD LOOKS BAD BECAUSE IT ISN'T OCARINA OF TIME>REE BREATH OF THE WILD LOOKS BAD BECAUSE IT ISN'T OCARINA OF TIMEThese """"""Zelda""""" fans hate every single legend of Zelda game except Ocarina of Time, which was their first game in the series and the only one they really enjoy. They are cancer and actual Zelda fans have been getting sick of their constant bitching.
>>747270402All these are true. ESPECIALLY the ugly NPCs in Twilight Princess. Actually a lot of Zelda games have ugly NPCs it's just the worst in TP.
>>747268649
>>747270402>>747270525I hold that hating Wind Waker's art is completely fucking justified. Imagine going from Majora's Mask, the big, creepy Zelda game, and being told, "we're going in an entire different, opposite direction. Not just for a spin off. This is the main look going forward."
>>747270402Literally all true.
>>747270402/threadand the seething replies prove it
>>747270497its first kirkversary today also
>>747270835kys, faggot
>>747270763feels like you just checkmated yourself by admitting the remake doesn't look like ocarina of time because fans are still bitching
>>747267193This is the exact same as Links Awakening you stupid retard. What the fuck do you even mean? They took the original art, threw it in the trash. Instead of us using the GUIDE AND MANUAL, OFFICIAL ART, they go for retardo funkopop/"""mariennete""" looks for REMAKES of games and then add anti-soul gas to half the screen. There is NO DIFFERENCE between this and LA. Wtf do you even mean? Yes this one has a higher budget. It's the exact same design philosophy. And frankly they both look like shitty Rudolph the red nosed reindeer clay animation from like the fucking 80s, both, in many ways>>747267096Look I loved playing them and am not a complete hater, but after you best them, it's pretty fucking obvious they're just garbage slop that doesn't respect what people wanted. At least OoT is a complete game. I will never replay parts 1 or 2. Ever. Maybe part 3 won't have that issue, but I doubt it. Fuck off. Both are monkeys paws. But ignoring the ruined faces in sotc/des, those + mgs3 are the best way to do remakes outside of re2/re3/re4 style reimagines (yes RE3 is shit)If you can't respect the original, just make a new fucking game.
>>747270687It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't.>leave it to boomers and original creators who are jaded and tired of making the exact same story for 40 years because everything they try to deviate the fanbase riots>new upcoming guard of developers get handed the reigns and immediately start infighting about Sheik not using he/him pronouns and why Malon isn't a strong black female because Hyrule doesn't have enough representationIt's a no-win scenario.The winning play is just to play the 1998 original release every year and let the cards fall.
>>747266016>b-but it looks like marionettesYeah no shit, this is not a revelation, it's obvious what they're going for, the point is it they failed horribly and it looks like shit. See >>747144519 Same problem with capeshit "But Y happened in the comics!" doesn't matter, it's still shit.
>>747270781They weren't supposed to be beautiful and sexy. That was the point dumbass. Believe it or not, not everyone needs to have a boner when they play video games. Some people have higher thought processes than that.
>>747266016What is Nintendo's obsession with making all of their IP's have some stupid gimmick shoved into a games design? Aren't there multiple Kirby and Yoshi games about them being different fabric or some shit? And then there are two plastic toy Zelda games.This shit reeks of boomer who can't help but force their stupid hobby/obsession into the direction of a game.
>>747270854oh my god kirkiversary just ticked and I let out a massive farthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlOdillu4FI
>>747270497The right just doesn't consider your kind human anymore.
>>747266451Just because puppetkino is extremely based doesn't mean the OoT remake should be based on it.
>>747270870no
>>747270813yeah and it worked out greatit's not like the toon look stay around. it was just a nice change of pace and the more time passes, the more phenomenal it looks
>>747270813>Imagine going from Majora's Mask, the big, creepy Zelda game, and being told, "we're going in an entire different, opposite direction. Not just for a spin off. This is the main look going forward."And it was worse than that, because they actually showed off what they WANTED the post-MM game to look like, and everyone got excited for that style.
>IT ROOK SHITTO ON PULPOSE!!!!Yeah. No.
>>747266016I dont mind using unique artstyles for remakes like the doll look in links awakening, but oot is not one where it fits. I dont hate it and its an improvement on low poly, but it was the wrong direction to go with a remake of such an iconic game
>>747270912>capeshit out of nowheremindraped zoomie
>>747270889I meant to say that OoT remake is closer to the des/sotc/mgs3 design philosophy, so, it's inherently better than a 3-part 200 dollar 8 year heckling plot ghosts sequel, at the end there.
>>747270402Every anon here has their own idea of what it should look like, and like an actual hivemind circlejerk themselves so they think they are in the right 100%.There's a reason no-one takes anything seriously here, it's all shitposting all the way down.
>>747270615ALBW was DESPISED here, yoy fucking tourist. All anyone talked about was>LMAO, full price for literally ALttP>look how shitty and plastic it looks!
>>747271048not an argument
>>747270956>Just because puppetkino is extremely based doesn't mean the OoT remake should be based on it.actually yes it does
>>747270947funny you say that when this was his wife and the right wing crowd right after his death
>>747270917>This shit reeks of boomer who can't help but force their stupid hobby/obsession into the direction of a game.Because that's exactly it. Nintendo is a boomer company, and it's just the same 5 or so guys taking the shots. Don't forget that all these IPs that made them what they are were created by young talents, but the boomers just refused to pass the baton. That's why it's just Zelda, Mario, and Pokemon rehashes and remakes until the end of time.
>>747270979No, it did not work out great. Twilight Princess objectively outsold Wind Waker, proving that giving people what they wanted works. And they DID try and push Toon Link. Wind Waker. The Minish Cap. The DS games. Aonuma obnoxiously tried to make it THE Zelda look.
>>747271103>>>/reddit/
>>747270986you guys cannot seriously relitigate the WW backlash that was driven by everyone in the video games industry being retarded 16yos>im a big boy I want COOL graphics this shit is for babiesgrow up, please.
>>747266016>it's based on a concept therefore
>>747270915>Believe it or not, not everyone needs to have a boner when they play video gamesEvery single TPfag has a boner while playing the game because of the gremlin thoughbeit.
>>747266016I think they were wanting to do this for a while. I can even see hints of it here
>>747266016>shit art direction>ummm actually it's shit art direction: Japan
>>747271184the same twilight princess where the smae retarded niggers cry over the NPCs not looking like generic tranime characters?
>>747271184TP was also on nintendo's most popular home console of all time and WW was on one of its worst, if not the worst selling one
>>747271102nope, I was around.no one complained about how it looked, also everyone was thirsting over the best Zeldaalso it just doesn't look plastic, you are making that up
>>747271213>you guys cannot seriously relitigate the WW backlash that was driven by everyone in the video games industry being retarded 16yosI cannot for the life of me parse what the fuck this ESL babble is trying to say, but the context seems angry so I'm just gonna leave it at "lol"
>>747266724Because it's fucking awesome and only insecure fagaroni's get their girly panties in a bunch over a game made for kids.
>>747266016does not explain the disparity between zelda/link and the other npcs like malon, ruto, the townsfolk. And it looks like shit.weak cope, and fanboys are gobbling it up
>>747270402The Zelda cycle is eternal
>>747271102I was around, you re correct and that other anon is a tourist faggot revising history
>>747266451Thanks for the reminder, I need to hurry up and watch this.
It would've just been the 3DS remake in 4K essentially, but I would've preferred the SSBU models but with more polygons and better fabric textures.
>>747271398It's because they ran out of budget. simple as.There are comparisons to Thunderbolt Fantasy ITT but imagine if all the side characters in that show were CG rendered and looked like they're from Jimmy Neutron, and also the backgrounds are CG using generic store assets.
>>747266016>nooooo it doesn't look like a retarded puppet from puppet theater it looks like a ningyo from ningyogekiIt's not a shit game it's kusoge then
>>747267096FF7 redesigns are based on sex dolls. They look quite good honestly
>>747271329>no one complained about how it lookedYou very clearly weren't. >also it just doesn't look plastic, you are making that upI wasn't one of the retards claiming it did.
>>747266451JAPANESE MARIONETTES ARE NOT TAIWANESE GLOVE PUPPETRY YOU FUCKING POSER
>>747271291The fuck you talking about? This is THE Link. Holy SHIT look at this AURA. >>747271328Cope you autistic FREAK.
>>747266709Starfox looks kinda bad but im really liking the direction Ocarina of Time (and hopefully Majora) are taking. Majora especially would really benefit from this atmosphere and art direction.
>>747271331>I dont know what relitigate meansgrim
>>747271458that's not how it works, what a load of nonsense
>>747270917Nintendo has this obsession of not making more of the same unless they can "innovate."But once you tell the same story from multiple angles for 40 years, the only innovation you have left is "what if everything was made of school supplies? That'd be crazy."Look at Mario Galaxy 2. It was literally just Mario Galaxy 1 but more, and everyone loved that about it. But several higher ups like Miyamoto seethed over it and called it wasted potential and pulling the same trick twice.It's why Tears of the Kingdom had to have Banjo-Kazooie Nuts and Bolts rammed into it and big tested for a year. Because "more BotW", which is what everyone wanted, would not have been "innovative enough to warrant making."It's retarded. By holding themselves to this arbitrary standard, they rob the playerbase of more of what they originally loved.You KNOW when this OoT remake was decided, they all sat down and said "Okay, we're going to do this. How can we make it wildly different and stun people?"I don't think most people wanted stunned. They wanted regular old Ocarina of Time. They wanted their safety blanket.
>>747267096I love this fucking revisionism, it's almost like clockwork.Fuck you.
It looks fine, stop being a bunch of histrionic faggots
>>747267193look at the sets in the puppet show and come back to me
>>747271516>aurayou're brown and retarded
>>747270402I was here for all of it as a 36 year old. Sgop gaslighting and acting retarded. Also, let's ignore how every game before tww was same style>everyone is the same person!!!Here's my timeline:>be kid anon>go to friends>he shows me oot>whoa>he let's me borrow oot>whoooa>I get gold cartridge mm and oot>whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaa>buy GameCube after they show tech demo of gc link vs Ganon, which looks like oot>whooooaaaaaaaaa>shitty bait and switch to an exact opposite art style, in an era where kids wanted to be edgy, and everything had edge, completely counter to the art style in every production material from Zelda 1 to the literal GameCube marketing >people rightfully mad at bait and switch >still pre-order >get KINO HOLY FUCKKKK master quest disc for pre-ordering >whoooooa being a kid in the 90s is fucking crazy bro>wind waker comes out>jaded still >play it>love it>cherish it, as many did >people like you continue to reeeeeeeeeee with no nuance >tp announced >thank besutiful God crying meme.jpg>game comes out >8.8>gamefaqs and 4chin meltdowns>after awhile 8.8 is proven reality AND YES THE NPCS ARE FUCKING HIDEOUS >ss announced >99% said the art style looks amazing but as usual Nintendo is retarded for doing this type of art style on a fucking 480p system where it looked like complete shit, factually >fixed on switch, looks great>npcs hideous, just a fact >wii u demo just HD tp>everyone cheers >botw announced >everyone cheers >totk >most laugh Faggot gaslighter
>>747268774>the world doesn't need prompt enginee-ACK
>>747271329This was fucking gamefgs, who were being FAR kinder to the game than /v/. Playdoh and Plastic came up a lot here. You weren't here, it's unbecoming to pretend you were.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/711412-the-legend-of-zelda-a-link-between-worlds/67550596
>>747270873Sorry I can't handle your retarded schizo babble where you make me the arbitor of billions other' combined-into-one-thought opinions. Also the drugs you're currently on. Please clarify
>>747266016They just needed to give it a chance.
>>747271627FREAK.
>>747271183>That's why it's just Zelda, Mario, and Pokemon rehashes and remakes until the end of time.And it works you retard, that's the point.People want more of the same and they GET more of the same and this has worked for decades.How is this so difficult for people like you to understand?
>>747271329>also everyone was thirsting over the best Zelda>was
>>747270402Zelda fanbase is very schizo pls understand
>>747271630tldr fat retard seethes his fanfic isn't real
>>747266016I apologize to Grezzo.
>>747270402wind waker still looks too cartoony and bad.twilight princess still looks muddy and dark.skyward sword still looks ugly and blurrybreath of the wild still looks washed out and blandLA remake still looks like plastic toysthe OOT remake looks like nintendo hired that man.maybe they should've just gone with a higher poly/quality version of OoT's original artysyle
>>747271630That's a whole lot of words for saying you're a gigantic gigafaggot anon.
>>747271489that's just because you are retarded
>>747266016>no you don't understand, making him look like a creepy puppet was intentionalThat doesn't make it better, if anything it makes it worse knowing you were intentionally going for this dogshit style.
>>747271006U NO UNDASTANDO DEEPU NINGYO TECHNIKUU, GURASU EYE, DOORU SKIN, OIRU WATAH, PURASCHIKKU ARMOR, NO KURASHU TEKUCHAS, IT RIKKA KINTSUGI, IT REKWIRE 100 YEAR PURACTISU TO UNDERSTANDO
>>747266016Alright. And? We don't care about Japanese marionettes. Literally nobody outside of Japan gives a fuck about Japanese marionettes. Did anybody else even know they fucking them?
it looks dogshitjust as bad as any unreal or AI remake on youtube
>>747266016>Aonuma got hired by Nintendo for making woodworking dolls>OoT SW2's art is based on marionettes
>>7472670967demakes are trash thoughbeit
>>747271630This is 1000% correct. God I loved getting Master Quest for FREE and playing an alternate version of the best fuckin game of the 90s to tide me over until Wind Waker came out. I remember my friend who preordered from Cuckstop told me they refused to give him the MQ disc until he came in to pick up WW on release day. Sad!
>>747267449because the gameplay is either the exact same as the decades old game everyone has already played or its been made worse so whats left is the artstyle change
puppetkino filtering the low IQ uncultured subhuman tatstelets like intended
>>747271879>"you're making it up">but I didn't say that>"you're dumb for not saying the thing I claim you made up"Here's the (You) you were begging for. Hope it all gets better.
>>747272027I've been to real life puppet shows and not just some japanese anime shit and the Remake just looks atrocious.
>>747271842>maybe they should've just gone with a higher poly/quality version of OoT's original artysyleIf they did that there would be 999 threads about how they just bumped the resolution up and called it a day.
>the design is growing on me>reality, forgotten after a few weeks
>>747270402>I hate defending corporate bullshit, I really do, genuinely,>but
>>747266016>Translated from SpanishOh yeah I forgot that half the fanbase for Ocarina of Time is mexicans.
>>747271776It clearly works, never said it didn't. It's also a shit situation, I want to play new games, not another Miyamoto-Aonuma-Koizumi-Sakurai slop. You'll get it some day, or maybe not, since you probably never got to experience what is like seeing new IPs being born every day.
>>747272106ok pedo
>>747266016Isn't Zelda like Metroid primary demographic the west? Maybe not as hard leaning, but still. Why the fuck would you do some autistic Japanese marionette art style for a game that has to appeal to Westerners?
>>747266016If that's the case you would gave given them doll skin instead of a butchered pbr realistic skin.
>>747266016This right here shows the paradox of getting remakes done by the original creators. They always want to try some new shit that they should apply to a new game. FF7 remake is another prime example.
>>747266016What the fuck does the Legend of Zelda have to do with Japanese puppets?
>>747272051I made a Fortnite thread back in the day so /v/ liked it.
>>747269948Bobs
>>747272224because fuck the west
>>747266016bad artists get bad inspirations
>>747269948Thanks Miyamoto
>>747272243some higher up at nintendo must get his dick hard over puppets, they keep doing this shit
>>747272243Isn't it obvious?They wanted something that can emulate the look of N64 visuals without resorting to actual N64 visualsIt's like Nuts & Bolts' artstyle turned out the way it did (to mixed results)
>>747271692Hey retarddid you know 99% of 4chin came from gamefaqs and something awful before you fucking 2016+ Pol tourists from reddit and smartphones destroyed the website? Gamefaqs was far meaner to Jeff during 8.8 than here or something awful. Gamefaqs was 4chan but with usernames for a very long time, before people like you on phone ruined the internet. You are aware the internet existed before your phone, right?
>>747271630>>747272016Thorwing my hat in the ring on this.Being given a disc that let you play Zelda 1, Zelda 2, OoT: Master Quest, and Majora's Mask on demand on your Gamecube in 2003, is to the day the greatest thing Nintendo has ever done.All for a $5 preorder. Some EBgames and other stores would sell the collectors disc standalone after the fact too. You couldn't browse a used Gamecube game display without seeing one for $5-$10.Greatest deal in gaming history. Even if Majora's Mask crashed occasionally, losing hours of progress. Still worth.
>>747268179>Nobody likes a shower>Smash players out of nowhere
>>747266016"influenced by" but not really in any way emulating, it just looks bad with all the busy details and HIRETHISMAN tier enviroments
>>747272357white men and honorary aryans love puppets, good job exposing yourself AAA non white
>>747272462>t. geppetto
>>747266016>The ugly ass art style was inspired by the ugly ass japanese thingDo they think this makes it any better or something
>>747266016i dont give a FUCK what its influenced by, or how long you've woirked, NIGGER. it looks UGLY and thats what MATTERS.
>>747270402you're just buttmad that celda looks kiddy
>>747272530that is a is great honor, thank you
I remember almost 10 years ago now bitching about the Link's Awakening remake art style, and how just it actually WASN'T 'faithful' to the original, because they didn't just make it 'chibi.' They made it a plastic diorama. This shit looks like pure plastic. As if it was meant to be on a toy shelf directly. Now they're making OoT a bunch of dolls and literal toys.
>>747272535agp tranny melty
>>747272607I'm going to go ahead and get out in front of all the replies you're going to get saying Nintendo was originally a toy company.I'll die so you may live.Go off, king.
>>747272607In this case they actually redesigned everything though. in the OOT remake they only redesigned Link and a couple of main characters, the other characters look like generic CG cartoon style and the environment is photorealistic slop from an asset store.
>>747266016If it has so much of an art style then why does it look like a generic UE5 tech demo?
>>747272535BASEDASED
>>747272156I have a PC and I have a Switch, this shit doesn't really affect me because I play what I want to play regardless of all the shitflinging that happens here.But let's not pretend people on /v/ don't get excited for sequals and remakes, it depends purely on the game and you should know this as well.
>>747272725That makes it even worse. The fucking npcs are in the oot style and Link is a weird fucking soulless blind looking puppet retard with a veiny penis hat
>>747272156Miyamoto, Koizumi, and Sakurai have never made a slop game. Aonuma and Fujibayashi are the slop miners. Miyamoto and Koizumi, who gave us games like ALTTP and SM64, would have never made $70 BOTW DLC.
>>747266016ok and? it's still fucking ugly
>>747266016Star Ocean 4, but it's ok when Nintendo does it
>>747266016>>747266709It grows on me so hard it's unreal.It should have been based on indian poop though
>>747268396ganon was mossad??
>>747272224Aonuma already raped Zelda by removing western culture inspirations from the world and turning it more culturally japanese. That's just more of that, retroactivelly.
>>747270497"the right" and kike shills are entirely distinct entities, in spite of the latter pretending to be the former
>>747272687>toysHanafuda cards. That's like saying a poker deck is a toy.>it isThen Nintendo is still a toy company now.
>>747271572>I don't think most people wanted stunned. They wanted regular old Ocarina of Time. They wanted their safety blanket.This narrative can fuck off. People did want a change. They wanted the amazing remake Ocarina deserves. That doesn't mean they wanted them to ruin it.>someone gives you a model car, but it's unpainted"Hey, this is cool, but we should try to bring out the original vision and make it even better, let's paint this">"Here you go, I painted it with my shit, I took a big fat shit on it. I put it up my ass and then I shit on it. You're welcome.""What the fuck? This is horrible.">"Ugh, you just don't understand, it's based on Shubakudoki Shit-Theater. You're just not smart enough to enjoy it. You just wanted your unpainted car safety blanket."Sure man, whatever. Enjoy your shit-car.
>>747266016>It looks like shit>OH YEAH? WELL HERE'S WHY IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT! BET YOU FEEL FOOLISH NOW!
>>747272971t. mexican
>>747272535Charlie is speaking facts.
>>747272535kirkiri wouldn't say this
>>747266016In other words, the team of quirkies that turned from Ocarina/Majora into Wind Waker's hated art-style, is still doing their thing.Y'all should just FUCKING, ACCEPT, CHANGE.Yes. It is actually me.Just fucking, go out and touch grass or shut the hell up.
>eeeh...I dunno. Looks kinda shit>Didn't you know?! It is actually BASED on shit!>ooooh...okay
>>747272607I fucking hate this PS3 era PSN indie artstyle. Fuck Nintendo for ruining the remake.
>all the comments they're getting yelling at them to fix the artstyle>less than 2 months before launch dayJust edit a few lines of code, Nintendo.It's not too late to reverse course.
>>747271630Based fellow oldfagEVERYONE shit themselves when they saw that TP trailer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE2Dc1sx71UWhether it ended up being good or not was up to personal tastes. I thought it was alright with a horrible beginning. Eyebrows knight girl was cute.
>>747273231they aren’t turning it into agpnime sis
>>747266016I hate Aonuma so much it's unreal.
>>747266709Why is fondness the x axis and not time??
>>747266016If you squint and read the original tweet that's screenshotted in the OP Imamura's just making a brief comment saying he feels they look similar. The faggot who made the QRT is playing defense with this like it's gospel from someone who worked on the game, when he hasn't been employed at Nintendo since the start of the decade.
>>747273231That's the amazingly beautiful thing - they're not going to fix it. They're not Sony and Sega, they won't ever admit they were wrong or tuck their tail between their legs like we saw with the Sonic movie design.But EVEN IF they wanted to... there's just no time. Because in their sheer arrogance, they waited until the final hour to actually show anything, They were never interested in feedback. They know their fans will buy it anyway.
>>747266016Artstyle kicks ass, you lost.
>>747267096FF7R has it's own basket of bullshit let's not kid ourselves anon.The fact is that both are shitting the bed when they really shouldn't be.
>it's ugly:(>on purpose:DD
>>747267201>Nah FF7R is still ass but it's not the most soulless ass ever anymoreSaid it perfectly. Well done
>>747272816They made good games back in the day, the created all the big IPs. Now they just boomers stifling innovation, regurgitating the same shit all over and over again. Miyamoto specially is complicit in all these remakes.
>>747272357Let that man make Zelda onaholes then I'll agree with him.
>>747273036nope
>>747273231>Nintendo>admitting they are wronglmao
>>747273010Okay, I'm not going to bother with your autistic car anaology meltdown thing. But I'll try to meet you halfway and let you express your opinion if you can get it out without freaking the hell out.>They wanted the amazing remake Ocarina deserves.Tell me what that is. Because you, and the anon after you, and the anon after that are going to want wildly unrealistic shit. Some want entire new temples like the Light Temple, and a full Ice Cavern. Some want new sidequests. Some want Hyrule Field redone into this little mini BotW playground.It's not a far walk of change until what you have only half resembles Ocarina of Time.I will staunchly argue that all of you screaming that it shouldn't be a 1:1 remake and should have been expanded don't actually want Ocarina of Time. You want a new Zelda game ahead of schedule and OCarina of Time is your conduit to get half of that and "cheat the system" so to speak.You tell me what "the amazing remake Ocarina deserves" is. Tell me.Be detailed. Tell me what the remake it deserves look like so we can all see your objective opinion.Because I think the most reasonable and wisespread opinion is that the Ocarina of Time we have is what was wanted, just with improved graphics in the vein of 3DS but higher fidelity.Any other anon that wants to stand up and describe what "Ocarina deserves", do it. Tell the class in detail. Go off.But don't do it with thin skin, lads.
>>747267234>>747267594giving her thigh highs is a huge upgrade. you just have bad taste.
>>747266709nu-fox is cute and fuckable in a fugly way and i say this as a 100% straight man
It's growing on me. I think I will have a blast.
>>747273629ok pablo ywnbw
>>747266016I did say yesterday that it looked like they were some kind of action figures, close enough in my book
>>747273726Ura Zelda.
>its based on something so its good
>>747267430I guess they were trying to go for the idea that the Kokiri wove his outfit out of grass because they wouldn't really have access to normal cloth.Looks stupid though.Curious what the Goron and Zora tunics will look like.
>>747266016and? explanation is not absolution.
>he samefags so it's true
>>747266016But how the artstyle being bad affect you personally?
>>747266016Japanese marionettes look like shit and a 3rd rate western studio is very clearly behind this, making this "point" moot.
>>747272401Jesus christ grandpa, still gripping onto the early 2000s? Your personality should've at least grown the fuck up in 20 years you retard idiot. /v/ has always hated all fucking videogames forever because its a website about pedophiles, cucks, and bad politics since I left years ago. Now that I've become the tourist due to getting a fucking life in my 30s, its funny as fuck seeing how many years you idiots have wasted over this idiot website lmao never change lolijackers
>>747273846not a pablo and correct
>>747274360>reddit spacing
>>747274371>you will never be white>correctwe know, pablo
>>747274184I was on board with that explaination until I saw adult Link.So now a rational explaination turns into>Rauru had Saria weave him an entirely new tunic to match his new size while he was in stasisThe woven tunic looks cute at a glace, but now it relies on to player to use mental gymnastics to explain why it's suddenly bigger.The original had this problem too, but is was easier to handwave. Since it was nondescript cloth material, you could argue the tunic was widely available or "magic ain't gotta explain shit" did it.But now magic is damn good at weaving straw and tanning leather.
>>747267449Charlie Kirk was now resurected like jesus already did in 1889 and probably died by commit suicide with their own Walther PP Pistol like the resurected jesus herself Now, guess who was the resurected jesus in my jokeFor info, link was now look alike a fetal alcool syndrome children's in this Infamous remake
>>747266016>GODtendo revealed that poo is inspired by shit which is why it looks like diarrhea
>>747270402This. The Wind Waker bait & switch was a dick move, but it completely and permanently mindbroke autists because at every release there's a flood of complaints about art style no matter what Nintendo does. It doesn't matter what these retards say anymore because they will have complained regardless.
>>747274184>I guess they were trying to go for the idea that the Kokiri wove his outfit out of grass because they wouldn't really have access to normal cloth.That's even funnier since they apparently have metallurgy and can make intricate leather items.
>>747266363HOLY FPBPYou faggots literally have the technology to implement the original vision of the game, the one that couldn't be done back then, that is the point of any remake, what the fuck?
>>747274497reddit spacing>namefaggingantisistas…
>>747274521maybe they should've kept the alttp/oot/mm art style that everyone liked
>it's based on a "concept">it's growing on me>imagine the porn>I'm having a blast
>genuinely thinking that changing the art style for something as sacred as Ocarina of Time would have gone over wellWhy the hell is everyone trying to be clever these days YOU AIN'T SLICK
>>747274456Once again caring about the miniscule shit while your entire life falls apart, gripping to 4chan as your last bastion for social support. Say what you will, but I'ma leave this thread now and continue living light years beyond you. Thanks for the quick reply you no lifer, further proving my point. :^)
>>747270402>REEE, WIND WAKER LOOKS BAD AND CARTOONY AND CHILDISH, WHAT THE FUCKIt does and it is. Plays like it's made for babies with downs too, like the entire gaycube lineup.>REE TWILIGHT PRINCESS LOOKS MUDDY AND DARK, TOO MUCH BLOOM, UGLY NPCSAlso true.>REE SKYWARD SWORD LOOKS BLURRY AND GROSS, LINK LOOKS UGLY, THE SKY IS FULL OF BORING YELLOW FART CLOUDSTrue.>REE BREATH OF THE WILD LOOKS WASHED OUT AND BLAND, THE COLORS ARE TOO DULL, THE FIDELITY IS TRYING TO DO TOO MUCH WITH THE SWITCHS HARDWAREAbsolutely true, it's horrendous.>REE LINKS AWAKENING REMAKE LOOKS LIKE PLASTIC TOYS, IT LOOKS STUPID AND OVERLY SIMPLEYes, it is stupid and ugly and a mistake.Nintendo should listen to me because they realized way too late they chased off anyone not a demented brand loyal disney adult nigger and in the process also lost the kids, so now they're flailing desperately with theme parks and movies and restaurants trying to course correct to no effect. Miyamoto and Aonuma both belong on a nursing home.
>>747274469which part of my original post made you so mad, anon? it's interesting, honestly
>>747266709I'm already growing on you
>>747274628If they kept the same art style everyone would say it's a rehash.
>>747274674mad
>>747271813Do you have confirmation that Grezzo didn't work on this remake yet?
>>747274650The 35 year old manchildren are going to buy it no matter what it looks like.
>>747274713calling you a mexican(you just admitted you will never be white btw) doesn't mean I’m mad, pablo
>>747274763>if (fictional scenario) then (fictional scenario)
>>747270402I like how near every reply doesn't even deny this and agrees that every zelda game looks like shit except this larper >>747271630
>>747266363FPBP
>>747274870Sorry, maybe you have to have an inner voice to be able to reason about hypothetical scenarios.
>>747274763The reception to the tech demo says you're a lying blackest gorilla.
>>747274863
>>747270402Every Zelda game looks great except WW.
>>747274518Seriously, it's sound more like"Jewtendo had poop this feminist shit that who really look alike a third infamous Ron Jeremy (as Mario) porn parody"
>IS THAT TEXTURE ON HIS TUNIC?!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH IM GOING INSANE
>>747274650It's not about pleasing people in the present as much as we think it is.It's about guarding against people in the future.Ten years from now, when someone brings up Ocarina of Time, this is going to be what they mean. This artstyle, this dialogue, these rewrites, these voices.Out with the 1998 rough around the edges antique we slaved over and didn't fully meet our vision.In with the 2026 feature complete lore accurate new standard for the name "Ocarina of Time."Remakes aren't done out of community love. They're done to pave over history so that those that come after can sell you new things easier.
>>747273593https://www.otonajp.com/umi-no-ane-2-yurufuwa-mermaid
>>747275073Grim
>>747273915>>747273726Well, faget?
>>747274697Why would anyone listen to an obvious, solipsistic retard?
>>747275152I didn't expect many answers.Everyone is a loudmouth clown until the room goes silent and everyone turns to hear THEIR "correct" answer.We'll argue about this shit for months, but very few will make themselves vulnerable to critique over it.
>>747275073Yes, because Nintendo burn all traces of their older titles in internal and external sources."They're erasing our history" - you read to much /pol/ shit.
>>747266709I liked the Star Fox models immediately
>>747275229They might be smart. I don't expect senile old men banking their future on Sony Pictures, Universal and Illumination to be though.
>>747270402It only ever happened to Wind Waker, anything else you listed is just zoomer revisionism. Wind Waker was Nintendo's own doing anyways because of that old gamecube concept demo that showed a more realistic looking Link vs Ganon fight. Like the entire purpose of that video was to get their audienced hyped for that, and it worked, and then they didn't deliver it. It's purely self inflicted.
>>747275152Oh wait, I misunderstood. That's your answer and you want a reply.I thought you were shitposting. I asked you to give a detailed description of what you wanted for the game, and you threw a different game that never materialized on the table and walked away full of piss and vinegar.Yeah, that sounds about like what I expected.F. Do not see me after class.
>>747275252I'd be fine with either a 1:1 or Ura Zelda. The artstyle and engine is what I have biggest issues with. It looks like hot garbage.>>747275038
>>747266451True!
>>747267430baseddeath to visual clutter
>>747270497It's more telling the left celebrates his death every moment they can, because they have no on their side to support. Limp wristed savages.
>>747275335Never said they're erasing it. I said they are paving over it. Smoothing it out.It's about casting the wisest net. The majority will have the new as the frame of reference. not the old.You just make up shit in your head to lash out against. You ignore a complete thought because roms of OoT exist. It's retard behavior.
>>747275038overdetailing isnt a good thing.
>>747270497>>747271174Leftoids be acting like this, and then tell me to give a fuck about ICE killing their friends and the Big-Noses bombing the Brown people they love at the same exact time. Egotistical non-humans, I gotta say.
>>747275403That's some pretty gay passive aggressiveness, anon.They were pretty descriptive in interviews after the fact with what they wanted to achieve in Ura Zelda, so much got cut that it was enough to create an entirely new game in Majora's Mask.I think it's perfectly reasonable for a remake, a SECOND ATTEMPT, to actually try to create what they had to cut in the FIRST ATTEMPT.
>>747270402>I hate defending corporate bullshitno you don't shut the fuck up dumbass
>>747270986This is exactly it. I saw this in the Nintendo Power GabeCube previews and it pretty much sold me on the system. I felt absolutely betrayed by what they did with Wind Waker.
>>747275480"Smoothing" what out? "Casting a wide net"?So, you're saying that Nintendo is effacing their previous work with a shiny new model, presented to a larger audience? What does that have to do with history, when anyone can look up the past on the (current) Internet?Someone sanity check me, I cannot follow what this person is trying to say:>>747275073>>747275480
>>747271213>NOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU EXPECT WHAT YOU WERE SHOWNloser
>>747266363based first post poster
>>747266363fpbp
>>747266016>Uncanny characters based on uncanny puppetsWho'd have thunk.
>>747275958you werent shown shit but a tech demobut because the entire indstury was juvenile at the time, nobody understood this and threw a tantrum over wind waker>HEY MAN IM 15 YEARS OLD I WANT COOL LINK THIS SHIT IS FOR BABIES
>>747275612Yeah, I didn't respond because his game is too obvious. He was attacking me before I even said anything, why would I take the bait and just set myself up for him to attack me more?He's just here to defend his precious company and act ridiculous and holier-than-thou and I've had enough of that for one lifetime, I'm not here for it.
>>747266016why does this game need to take visual inspiration from something it didn't originallythis is the same issue people had with the link's awakening remake
>>747270402Hi Shiggy.
>>747270402really got the zeldafags toasty with this one, good work anon
>>747266363Real
>>747266016I'm so sorry, I will buy it now.
>>747266363>>747274574There was no "original art". The art was made after the game was made and it's just that artist's headcanon.
>>747266016>This looks like shit>I based the look on something else though>It looks like shit
>>747270402all of this is true and doesn't contradict each other, you know. They nailed the visual direction with OoT then decided to fuck with it after N64 and failed to hit the same artistic highs.
>>747276573>frognigger>is completely retardedi say every, you say time.EVERY
>>747266016>its SUPPOSED to be shit chuddy!
>>747276573no, key art happens very early in development
>>747270402Damn, it's almost like the inconsistent art styles have been a point of contempt for 28 years or something....
>>747275475>do all kind of fucking cringe shit we are all charlie kirk>get mocked for it
>>747267430Edit him into a yellow or verdant green microbikini. Including bulge and erect nipples or shut the fuck up
>>747276573>made the best game of all time with 0 concept art, rough designs, and probably no game design documents eitherI fucking kneel, '98 Nintendo.
>>747268774AI fucking won, just nuke crapan for making shit worse than ai goyslop
>>747266016...So was Gun Loco, but you don't see anyone missing or defending that blunder, hell even SE aborted it out of it's misery. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEWrAa0FwRI
>THEY UPDATED THE GRAPHICS AND COMBAT, THEY LITERALLY RAPED MY CHILDHOOD BABY GAME FOR BABIES
>>747277182>BABY GAME FOR BABIESThis part is true
>>747266709>>747266779>>747266791>>747266809Snoyggers aren't even trying.Saddest fucking shit ever.You niggers lost.
>>747277182>new remake announced that will make Nintendo money?>THE ORIGINAL WAS ALWAYS SHIT IT WAS BAD YOU HAVE TO BUY THIS IT'S THE TRUE VISION THE DEFINITIVE>WHEN KIDS IN 10 YEARS SAY OOT THEY'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS OKAY THE GAME THAT MADE NINTENDO MORE MONEY NOT THE OLD VERSION THEY DON'T SELL>NOW BUY IT BUY IT BUY IT fuck off
>>747266709Pokemon lol
>>747267430whoever designed this shit deserves to be shot
>>747277384>Hysterical schizo babbleMeds
>>747267279They ruined Tifa.
>>747276573>retarded frogposter doesn't know what's concept art
>>747266363Yeah. Who cares what it was based on if what it was based on makes it look ugly?
>>747277182>they add gacha hit effects to the combat>you: omg its updated waow... are you fucking kidding me.How does this shit work on you people?
>>747266016>I'm a senior so I can do what I wantso, how is this artistic liberty nobody asked for justified again....?
>>747272673Look how soulfull the original is, what have they done to my (link) kid
>>747274763If Elvis was still alive he'd be fucking your mother right this second. Look at me, I can make up bullshit what-ifs to justify my stances too.
>>747277538you know I hate all the fabric textures but I understand how they got there, they wanted this nature theme for the kokiri stuff. it's a neat concept with terrible execution and it should have been stopped, but I get it.what I do not get is who in their right mind thought it was a good idea to make the belt and the strap for the sheath different colors. it is such an obvious design mistake. simply recoloring that red to the same shade of brown as the other elements does a lot.
>>747270402Guess what? They're right. Ugly games are ugly and Zelda's had ugly artstyles since the GCN era because they had a perfectly good artstyle with the N64 games and all they needed to do was iterate and improve upon that to go with changing tech.
>>747266451I should really get around to watching this.
>>747276272It's just so fucking tiresome anon.And look, he still hasn't replied. Cause he's a disingenuous doublenigger.Zeldass.
>>747277573Every time subhumans want to shill some garbage remake they do it by putting the original down.
>>747267201That elevator design difference lmao.
>>747266709i look like this and i say this
>>747276394Thanks anon I was looking for that.>XXX post numberWhat a time lmao.
>>747266709top kek
>>747277816The nature theme is stupid and was ruined the moment they decided to also put steel in the same costume. There are many layers to why it looks retarded.
You're arguing about videogames.It's Kirkmas Eve and you're arguing about videogames instead of spending time with family.
>>747270497>All those (you)'sYou hit a nerve. Good job.>>747276394I prefer the original one, he phoned in 2nd to last line.
>>747278184I am sorry
I wonder...If they were to add a "Classic Style" mode...That featured the original style, but updated...How many would use the puppet style?I suspect, very very few...
>>747266016This is a bigger issue than you might think, because the whole point of marionettes is being visually interesting; their world is the table of the puppeteer. You don't ask the questions: how did they make those intricate clothes
>>747266724NoIt looks like shit>>747139002>The whole aesthetic is like it wants to be that Chinese or Korean puppet show with moon magic and shit, but they got insecure and quickly bailed out at the last minute.
>>747278184>Kirkmas EvaOh shit, time to hid all the kids from the orange pedo krampus.
>>747266675It's easy to stand by something that never actually gets made.
>>747266016It's good to know what they were thinking with these designs, but what works for puppets doesn't always translate well into CG animation.For instance, one way to make it work is if the characters' "puppet" nature was made more obvious with their physical features and movements.
>>747277961>it looks like shit on purpose
So, does he imply this "remaster" is a puppet show?Is he trying to imply it's a cheap copy of the original, because they nailed it if so
>>747278410I think it could work if they leaned into it like the links awakening remake. It doesn't work because they lean out of it like some jagoff in the art department really hit his stride with this marionette shit and then the higher ups come in like "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS!?!? WE SHIP THE GAME IN 6 MONTHS!!!" and the environment department had no clue
>>747270525you are a fucking moron
Just another remake that shouldn't exist. Why can't this just be a new Zelda game with a new artstyle?
Apologize for what? That he copes about it looking like shit hiding behind mannequins?
>>747267061The fuck kinda
>>747276480Gokubro btw
At a certain hour of the day, the niggerspeak here starts peaking. Unbearable.
>>747275394>It only ever happened to Wind Waker, anything else you listed is just zoomer revisionism This. Never forget.
>>747270402>conveniently ignore the fact nobody complained about OG OoT's art style
>>747270402>furfag>footfag
>>747276480
>>747278927>Terminally online faggots never complained about any other Zelda games art style
Wait, so everyone complaining the characters were plastic-looking were... Right?
>>747278930anon, that's because you're ackshually le complaining because it isn't OG oot, and if you actually do think the remake just looks ugly because it looks ugly and you don't conveniently fit into the strawman i made yo make you sound stupid, then...um...uh...
>>747266016>we made it look like shit on purposeokay now I hate them even more
I hope they remake Majora's Mask in the exact same style
>>747279030hehe hi hehe
>>747266016>it's actually good because it's based on somethingah, the pokemon defense
>>747277850THAT'S NOT ZELDA
>>747281278Holy shit you're right lol. It's that pokemon bitch. I should probably change that.
>>747281278I said the same thing, I can tell by the smell of the butt
>>747267509>when even SE can get it rightkysSE did NOT get it right, but at least the models aren't god forsaken like OOT's are
>>747266709I mean, it worked with Toon Link...
>>747267430when I was a teenager I saw images like this online and thought it would be so awesome if games started to look like this. Now... now I'm not so sure...
>>747266709Heh
>>747266016The game looks AMAZING!