Yes, but this isn't a case and you're just looking for clickbait engagement like a youtubber. Now begone with you /v/irgin.

>>747318113
I just absolutely hate the plastic doll model, he doesn’t even look like the Japanese string puppet that they’re supposedly taking inspiration from it.

Is Older Link's tunic still made out of leaves? Because that what it looks like.
I really like how Young Link's tunic is made of leaves, but I don't think it works with Older Link. Why would he wear normal pants and an undershirt while still wearing a leaf tunic?

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>>747318113
more detail is always more gooder

>>747318465
those 7 years link spent sealed away were wierd for navi and rauru

>>747318113
objectively yes

>>747318113
this isn't overdesigned, this is just more detailed, learn the difference moron

>>747318113
even the fucking boots have useless details

>>747318465
in the remake yes, you can probably assume his clothes ages with him, the nice detail is though that his boots, pants and gauntlet are clearly not made by Kokiri but more Hylian in design.

>>747318852
So it's over detailed?

>>747319089
no it's just very detailed which works for what they're going, you're just being a baby because new is different

>>747318465
The problem with the leaves instead of linen cloth thing is young Link is also wearing boots and and leather belts. So the logic tendoids are going on is the kokiri have sweatshops to create these other things, but fabric has to be some basket weaving bullshit?

>>747319184
>you're just being a baby because new is different
New CAN be bad

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>>747318113
Its barely designed, its not even on Shrek level of details.

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>>747318113
if he's not wearing the OOT Tunic then it's not OOT Link and your game is not OOT.
it's as simple as that.

>>747318113
It's more like restrictive design, they used more realistic proportion, no exaggerated legs, hands or so, and to make it more interesting they double down on the materials. It's a a design from 3d modeler, not from the artist who paints

>>747318113
Left is anime
Right is cloth doll
Style changed. What about it

>>747319327
doesn't change that you're mad because new is different

THEY INTENTIONALLY WENT WITH THE PUPPET LOOK RETARDS

>>747319550
>you're mad
I'm disappointed, unhappy.

>>747319586
puppets can wear regular cloth

>>747319394
This

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>>747319504
>it looks shit on purpose!!!!!!!

>>747318894
BOOTS WITH THE FUR (THE FUR)

>>747318113
The new clothes look so fucking stupid. Why can't his clothes be made of cloth?

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>>747319586
But why?

>>747319394
but he is wearing the OOT tunic, he's just also wearing leather armor on top of it because he has to fight demons and zombies and skeletons and shit

>>747318113
Niggas used the Photoshop pinch tool on his nose

>>747318113
Can they still change this before release?

>>747320091
the game is coming out in 2 months, it's already finished and printing

>>747318113
>forced graphics
DROPPED

>>747318113
I think the tunic looking like it was made in a forest is fine and a neat idea. Maybe the gloves and boots didn't need so much of pattern, but it doesn't bother me. I'll be curious to see if the red and blue tunics have a different look to reflect the different places they were made or not

>>747319965
the OOT Tunic isn't made out of grass.
it doesn't have faggot swirls all over it and it doesn't arm guards because that's where the strength gantlets go.

>>747320440
It looks stupid on adult Link.

penis vein hat

>>747320465
I don’t get why it’s literal grass fibers like they got the texture from a thatched bamboo roll. Woven textiles have been around for tens of thousands of years.

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>>747320440
hey faggot how did they make his leather shit in a forest?
how did they make his boots and armor?
How did they melt the Iron down for his buckles?

if they can do all that then they can make basic fabric and there's no need to make anything out of fucking grass.
there are fabric table cloths and sheets in Kokoir Forest this is fucking ridiculous.

this "makes sense cause made in a forest" bullshit is the most low IQ retard nigger cattle take ever.

>>747319231
>sweatshops
They just took them from Hylians who got lost in the Lost Woods

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>>747319394
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING

>>747319586
>THEY INTENTIONALLY WENT WITH SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE SHIT
I already knew that

Are there leatherworkers in the sacred realm?

>>747318113
each of the tunics is based around the races he gets them from so they're more detailed

if they were just color swaps there would be bitching about that instead

They'll sell the real design as dlc count on it

>>747321059
its design reflects the race that made it like the other two tunics do

>>747323545
shut up you lying retard.
No one ever bitched about the tunics being too faithful in the 3DS remake.
people don't bitch about things being done correctly and respectfully you faggot nintendo shill.

>>747323675
given that in the original game and concept art that race canonically wore proper fabric and not fucking grass.
then there is no reason for it to be fucking grass because that looks like shit and makes the devs seem like retards.

>>747323724
if the rest of the world is significantly more detailed and redone then yes I assume people will bitch about the tunics not being updated in any meaningful way, if it's just a remaster like 3DS then yeah duh ofc they're exactly the same

>>747323825
all of the other kids in the village have shit made of grass and it is vastly more interesting than a bunch of forest kids wearing simple green tunics

>>747323724
Retard

>>747323939
if that's so interesting then why don't you take that faggot concept and see how well it stands on its own?without riding the coattails of a better game OOT which did not have fucking grass for clothes because that's retarded you moron.

>>747319586
This is the line?
Why are you making Zelda characters look like puppets? That wasn't the motif of the original game.
Also, doesn't look like a puppet. Where are the strings and joints?

>>747318612
sir this is amazing how to downlod game? :)

>>747324117
There's numerous cultures that have made clothes from plant material anon, they're a forest dwelling race, their shields are unrefined pieces of bark. It's not a farfetched concept by any means, also why are you so mad?

>>747323842
the rest of the characters aren't more detailed. Malon looks the same, and good.

>>747319586
>they intentionally made it look like shit
thats nice but can they show us the actual oot remake now.

>>747323842
>tunics not being updated in any meaningful way
you've been proven wrong they will not because this already didn't happen and people are happy when a game is recreated faithfully instead of faggot jeets letting their egos get out of check.

there are only 2 types of fans
>people who want the original game to be respected
>nintednies who will literally eat shit will be happy with everything because they would defend nintendo even if they raped and killed their whole family.

there is no mythical third type that goes;
>oh they fucked the game up instead of the green tunic it should be made out of grass and look like shit.

>>747323649
forcing me to buy baka

>>747324285
>>747321059

>>747320465
>the OOT Tunic isn't made out of grass.
How do you know it? I mean the og was very simplistic in it's art style that we cannot know for sure.
Btw, how do you think the blue and red tunics will look like? Do you think they will be made of zora and goron skin?

>>747324921
Dumb ESL. The art made it pretty clear that Link's clothes were made of normal cloth.

>>747324385
They added horses to her dress, made the dress look like cloth, added stitching to her ascot/neck drape. They decided to make the forest kid's clothes more distinct from the hylian's clothes and this is what they went with. I'm sorry it's not just green tights and cloth tunics but I think it works/makes sense/is more interesting as a 'culture' within the game.

>>747324682
okay so if people complain about the tunics being too faithful or a game being recreated too faithfully it's just 'faggot jeets', anyone who disagrees with (you) is just written off, got it

they already remastered this game on the 3DS, if you don't think nintendo clearly respect this game and have put a ton of thought into everything about the remake then you have brain damage

>>747324921
>How do you know it?
because the devs were young, sharp and not senile yet.
they would never entertain such a retarded idea.

>>747318113
"Overdesigned" only makes sense in comparative terms. If your entire game is extremely detailed, then a character that’s also full of small details everywhere isn’t "overdesigned", because it’s in harmony with the whole.
If the entire work is highly detailed, and you still don’t like it, saying that its problem is being "overdesigned" is merely a subjective judgment that says more about your taste than about the work itself.

>>747318465
>Why would he wear normal pants and an undershirt while still wearing a leaf tunic?
Why would he wear any of that shit? A real wandering hero would probably just wear various plain cloaks and tunics, and would have to constantly replace them due to wear and damage.

>>747319394
I think this specific comparison is what make me realize I actually like the new look. I don't see the point in just re-treading the original artwork design for the umpteenth time. The 3DS version already did those drawings enough justice. Hell, the Smash Bros. Melee model already did it justice. I like that they're taking things in a new direction and embracing what a tunic actually made by forest-dwelling fairy kids would look like, while still maintaining the hallmarks of the original design.

>>747324761
again it's simply more visually interesting to have their clothes made this way than with cloth and makes their dress more distinct from hylians

>>747325369
>being too faithful or a game being recreated too faithfully
it doesn't happen. the only complaint that shone through in OOT 3D was a nitpick about the lighting not being dark enough.
when a remake is faithful it's literally a perfect remake.

>>747325469
>and embracing what a tunic actually made by forest-dwelling fairy kids would look like
>>747321059

>>747325215
they made sensible and good changes to Malon, and crammed Link full of as many details as possible, so stupid people go "wow, look at all those graphics".

>>747325550
it's not even a remake though, it's just a remaster and just like when they re-release any game or update a game there would be a flood of people saying
>RELEASE SAME GAME FOR 80 DOLLARS PLUS TIP WITH ZERO EFFORT AHAHAHA NINTENDIES WILL EAT UP ANYTHING
I'd rather them put genuine effort into rebuilding the game from the ground up with new modern takes on the art than just increase the graphic fidelity on a game I played 30 years ago

>>747325536
it's visually busy and ruins a simple and effective design.
They've done the equivalent of giving Darth Vader neon lights and engravings.

>>747325630
in motion and matched up with everything else it really doesn't bother me but it is a bit busy to look at the renders for sure

>>747318113
Hilarious that they kept the Master Sword the same when everything else is visual vomit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8XVE5D7gpM

>>747325870
it is busy but as a whole I think it's an effective design and I don't care if it's different than the originals, I've seen link in a green tunic for decades and it's always been iconic but handwaved as 'what the hero always wears', if he's raised by a bunch of forest kids and a tree then this is a fine reason for him to be wearing a 'green tunic'

>>747326119
Okay, Mario should get different facial hair then.
It's new.

>>747324385
>the rest of the characters aren't more detailed
They are, though. It's just proportionate to the kind of clothing they're wearing. The Kokiri clothes seem "more detailed" simply because they're made out of coarsely-woven grass fiber that creates a more textured feeling. Meanwhile, Hylian's clothes are made out of tighter loomed/knit fabrics, which have less obvious texture.

>>747325215
>I'm sorry it's not just green tights and cloth tunics but I think it works/makes sense/is more interesting as a 'culture' within the game.
This. After watching the trailer, it's clear their mission statement was to look at OoT in a vacuum and just embellish every potential detail they had to work with. Yes, I see the appeal in the older, more simplistic presentation and the charming notion that a kid living in a hollowed-out stump would be wearing a finely-knit tunic with an ironed collar and a belt from Sears. But we already have that representation. Now, I'm interested in the Link that wears clothes made from hemp and bird feathers.

>>747325878
This is one of those games that is simply going to need to be experienced to get the full effect. I think it's too easy to look at this videos on a phone or computer monitor and focus on opposing details instead of the more congruent ones. I bet once you're sitting in front of your TV and actually immersed in it, it'll hit different. Or maybe not. Who cares? Not me.

>>747321059
Why the fuck are you having a melty over a tunic made of burlap?

>>747326189
a better comparison would be when we saw mario's pants in brawl for the first time, they could have just remained a static blue but they made them look like actual jeans but I know this isn't the same and what you're saying isn't an argument at all really but I'm responding to you anyway

>>747326271
So they went too far with the Kokiri, and changed the fundmental feel of the design, which they shouldn't have done.
Malon looks the way she reasonably should look with better graphics.

>>747326343
Except Nintendo rightly realised at a certain point that shouldn't be wearing realistically textured jeans in his own games because it would throw off the aesthetic, and that remained a Smash Bros thing.

>>747325791
>if it's actually faithful I call it a remaster
every single asset was remade from scratch in a new engine. it's a remake.
you don't even know what mastering is you fucking retard.

>>747318113
Not necessarily overdesign, just ugly

>>747326280
if it doesn't matter, why did they change it?

>>747326601
Nintendo calls it an 'enhanced remaster' anon

>>747326189
Seems like a false equivalence. They didn't change link's tunic. They just changed the way it's depicted. Similar to the retarded argument you made about putting Darth Vader in neon colors. It's not the same thing.

>>747326434
>which they shouldn't have done.
Nah, I think they should have. The Kokiri all looking like they were wearing store bought costumes in the original game was charming, but the clothing 100% clashed with the setting. Then, once you got out of the forest, many NPCs commented on how out-of-place you looked, when really, apart from the floppy hat, Link was dressed just like anyone else. It almost feels like this remake is purposefully addressing that contradiction.

>>747326519
>shouldn't be wearing realistically textured jeans in his own games because it would throw off the aesthetic
Okay. Except the OoT remake changed the entire aesthetic so that the new clothing design DOES make sense. And if the Mario series changed its aesthetic similarly, then having him wear highly-detailed denim would also make sense.

You guys are treating isolated design choices as though they are objective when they are entirely subjective. Stop being silly-billies.

>>747318216
>but this isn't a case
Look at his fucking boots and belt.

>>747326280
why do you play defense for mediocrity and decay?

>>747326519
really? what do his pants look like in Odyssey?

>>747326908
>They didn't change link's tunic
they did though.
It has visible threads and ties, embossments, really stupid looking boots, and a leather vest. That's not the same design.

>>747326838
>things I never said
I just don't care. The cap on child Link is a couple sizes too big and the Kokiri sword looks like it's from Fable, that's my only gripe with the new designs so far. The babyfat faces are odd, but not bad.

>>747326908
dude the tunic textures are 1. ugly and 2
scaled too large. The sword and leather has way too much ornamentation compared to the rest of the world, and not in a good "main character" way

>>747327169
>I don't care
so why argue?

>>747326854
it's a remake.
a remaster has to be a mastering of the original project file with all the old N64 assets.

>>747318113
we hecking love deep fried ai designs if it's made by nintendo, you freaking chud

>>747327398
it has a new engine/models but is the same underlying source code, it's a mix and I think most people consider it a remaster and again even nintendo does soooo

>>747318216
pretty textbook example of noisy design

Link's tunic isn't overdesigned. The lighting engine is just weird and brings too much attention to the fine details.

>>747327097
You're using the word "design" one way when talking about Mario's mustache, but a different way when talking about Link's tunic. Completely changing the style of Mario's facial hair is not the same thing as Link still being in a green tunic, but depicting it differently. It's a false equivalence.

>>747327265
>dude the tunic textures are 1. ugly
Subjective.
>and 2 scaled too large
Nah. It's made out of woven grass. That's just what it would look like.

>>747319394
modders will probably have the version on the left hacked into the game within a few months, so I don't see why everyone is complaining.

>>747318113
The Kokiri are creatures taking on the appearance of children and are little tree leaf people. In the context of the game it kinda makes sense that Links child tunic would be woven with more primitive material than cloth fabric but not adult Link. Other than that it looks fine.

>>747327846
it's not a PC game.
switch 2 will brick itself and steal your money if you try to mod it.
Nintendo are anti-modding.

There are a dozen ways you could explain the kokiri having textiles if you really wanted to
1. show a spinning wheel in one of the houses
2. say the Deku tree produces everything they need through magical arcane processes
3. say they're woven by the spiders, who used to be good guys before Ganondorf's influence made them crazy
4. introduce travelling traders
5. the faeries made it
6. they scavenge from materials left behind in ruins
7. the Deku merchants travel into town and buy shit at the store
8. the Kokiri aren't even real children, and are ethereal spirits of the forest

>>747328058
Cope.

>>747319394
This

>>747327592
if you remake everything including the code that needs to be restructured because the OG OOT is programmed like dogshit then it's a remake.
lots of collision glitches were fixed in OOT 3D because the source code for OOT 64 has fucking awful collision checking and a really poor implementation of ray casting. they still kept in some of the most Iconic glitches deliberately tho.

>>747328058
It never needed explaining.

>>747328058
The Kokiri have farming tools in the original game, you think they can't make their own clothing from foliage and bark?

>>747328058
yeah but I like them making clothes from plants more than them having fabric

>>747326280
why can't people answer why they think "made in a forest" is a good defense?
they act like Kokori are so primitive they can't even make cloth but that's simply not true.
there is no scenario where they would ever have to make things out of grass.

>>747328485
>clothes from plants
Like cotton?

>>747328485
bro your clothes are made from plants.
just not grass because that's not a valid material to make clothes from. it rots and falls apart instantly.

>>747328370
Yeah okay but it's still considered a remaster, regardless, if you don't think there would be endless taunting and backlash about that 'remake' essentially being ported over to the switch 2 with enhanced graphics you're delusional.

Nintendo put effort into something and because it's not exactly how you imagine or think it ought to be you're up in arms. Is the design busy? Yes. Is it a bad design that clashes with the rest of the remake or internal logic of the game? In my OPINION, no.

>>747328058
See, this kind of breakdown is a fairly good example of why I specifcally prefer the new art direction. You can shoehorn in some gay lore to explain/excuse why secluded fairy forest kids have completely normal/contemporary clothing, or you can just embrace it and have them make clothing out of twigs and leaves. The latter is an excuse to embrace an artistic direction, while the former is an excuse to ignore it.

>>747328439
>you think they can't make their own clothing from foliage and bark?
They can. And the remake shows exactly what that would look like.

>>747328701
yeah but the tunics are literally magic anon, the zora one, the goron one, this one, the game is full of magic and the kokiri are magic, the deku shield could not block numerous things it can block but it's magic, etc etc etc

>>747328485
I don't like that it's visually busy.

>>747318113
Ocarina of slop

>>747328881
Dang. They should've used their magic to make something other than a scratchy grass shirt. Are they just stupid?

>>747328952
me neither but in motion I'm not sure it's going to matter as much as the renders

>>747328994
have you ever worn a simple fabric shirt like what malon has on? it's itchy and rough but this is a retarded direction you've taken this argument

>>747328746
What they're doing in the new game is already going overboard with lore. No one ever asked where the Kokiri were getting their clothes from. They invented a problem for some reason.

>>747328746
So, they can forge metal, and shape wooden handles on a lathe, but they can't spin wool?

I've actually done most of these activities in my life. I know how hard it is to spin something from sheep's wool (it's not that hard).
It would be harder to hollow out a giant tree to make a house.

>>747329145
Claude gave them these ideas

>>747328547
>they act like Kokori are so primitive they can't even make cloth but that's simply not true.
Based on what we've seen in every depiction, they don't. They have metal tools and wooden structures and furniture, but stuff like that generally predates textiles by... a lot. Finely woven cloths were basically one of the most effective forms of currency when explorers from Europe were travelling through less-developed civilizations of Asia and Africa.

>>747329145
>No one ever asked where the Kokiri were getting their clothes from.
I did.
>They invented a problem for some reason.
Your problem is that you view every change as though it had to be to address some "problem". They did it simply because it was an opportunity to add detail to the world through new art direction.
>the new game is already going overboard with lore
Forest people wearing clothes that look like they were made in the forest isn't "lore". It's just a congruent detail that needs no explaining. Your knickers are just in a twist about it because it's new, and new thing bad.

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>>747328729
>Is it a bad design that clashes with the rest of the remake or internal logic of the game? In my OPINION, no.
eh

>>747328746
No, I was agreeing with you that they can make their own clothes.

>>747329490
Slop Area of Crime.

>>747329490
>different types of grass exist
mind=blown

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/w2JMaBTH-D0
It's not that hard, bros.

>>747329112
>have you ever worn a simple fabric shirt
Yes, I wear shirts made of fabric all the time. A shirt made of simple fabric is what people expect Link to wear. No one wears shirts made of straw if they have any other option.

>>747329483
>Based on what we've seen in every depiction, they don't
except for all the shit they have that blatantly is woven cloth. along with leather and complex refined metal.

>>747329490
woven grass vs not woven grass? I'm confused on the point and besides that you're caught up on aesthetic choices vs realistic depictions in a fantasy game

>>747329678
Impossible to do if you built your house in a forest. It can't be done... because it just can't! You'd have literally no choice but to dress worse than a caveman.

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>>747318113
Links design is in fact the least of our concerns

>>747329627
>toon BOTW grass with no textures
>cluttered overly complex grass using photo scanned textured.
No clash of assets and artstyle there... nope.

>>747329391
>So, they can forge metal, and shape wooden handles on a lathe, but they can't spin wool?
Correct.
>I've actually done most of these activities in my life
Incorrect.

>>747329917
It's Zelda's "design"
Made by and for trannies

>>747329708
You wear a modern textile, I am talking about what people in this fantasy setting wear, the peasantry primarily.

I think maybe forest dwelling fairy adjacent children watched over by a magic talking tree might wear clothes made of magic infused plant materials anon.

>>747329956
I grew up in a quasi hippy community.

>>747329917
yeah this does suck though I kinda get that the air would be dusty or there would be fog from dew evaporating or whatever

>>747330046
>has to make up fanfiction to justify something as simple as clothing material
And maybe his skin is shiny because they all wear magic grease to avoid sunburn.

>>747329417
Claude who? Some new head honcho at NOA?

>>747329917
i just don't get why everything has to be constantly shiny

>>747329391
>So, they can forge metal
Can they, though? I never thought for a second that the Kokiri made the Kokiri Sword themselves. It was explicitly stated to be a "treasure" that they kept hidden. It's likely something that was found, or passed down from ancestors with more crafting skills.
>I know how hard it is to spin something from sheep's wool (it's not that hard).
It isn't hard if you know how to do it and have the tools and materials, sure. But the Kokiri don't have those things. Their primary resources are plants, so they learned to make clothing from that. It's not a question of ease, but a question of accessibility. I'm sure the Kokiri could do a lot of things if they were taught or had the resources. But they're a secluded forest commune, so making clothes out of grass makes more sense.

>>747330240
what fanfiction? they're magic kids in a magic forest, you're assuming the kids could make or acquire textiles through similar assumption based logic

>>747329483
>Based on what we've seen in every depiction, they don't.
All their houses had table cloths and all of them were clothed in regular cloth. I'd say it's pretty clear they were capable of making normal cloth in the original game, because they did and you could see it everywhere. Some of their buildings even had canvas awnings!

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>>747318113
Right is more accurate to the artistic intent.

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>>747318113
ur overdesigned, ugly freak

>>747330591
in the new game, the kokiri sword has a bunch of kokiri designs on it, suggesting they did in fact make it.

>>747329771
>except for all the shit they have that blatantly is woven cloth
Not in the remake. Retard.

>>747330736
>I'm basing my lore not on the source material but on my own shit I just made up... just now.

>>747330695
The sword came first. They based their "kokiri designs" on the engravings.

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>>747319394
There is a bit of a clash in the design. The pants and white shirt are coarse cloth, and the ladder braid of the cap and vest make you think of a more rustic/traditional outfit but then the leather parts are all intricately embossed with the biggest clash being the leather cuirass made of a bunch of highly specific leather strips shapes.

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>>747330591
>>So, they can forge metal
>Can they, though?

>>747330839
I'm basing my analysis on the remake on the context of things as they are presented in the remake. Sorry if this confuses you.

>>747330895
They found those.

>>747331056
Where?

>>747318113
The grass tunic is fine desu, it's a cute idea and I kind of understand why they wanted to make OoT Link more distinct (dude's kind of the "default", relatively speaking).
Should've just made him wider. Old promo art always had OoT Link angular and shredded as fuck, but I guess we do live in a post-femboy Link world now.

>>747331126
they bought them at the store.

>>747319394
Left's face with the outfit on the right and it's perfect.
I'll admit side by side the right looks a bit overdesigned, but standalone I think the basket-woven fabric makes the updated OG look like a 20 dollar polyester cosplay from china.

Ack

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>>747331323
>Left's face with the outfit on the right
Lefts face is stylised on the original art so will clash with the Unreal engine slop on the right.

>>747331369
>>747331169
There's a tunnel linking the lost woods and the Goron's city. The Goron's have forges, at the very least Biggoron and they are in contact. You can explain it away as trade.

>>747331056
>>747331126
>>747331169
>>747331723
I here there's a fabric store as well...

Just put on the red/blue tunics once you get them and don't swap back if the fabric bothers you so much?

>>747331723
>>747331056
Where did they get them when lunk was locked up for years until he became an adult?

>>747330894
And BELTS

>>747321059
>hey faggot how did they make his leather shit in a forest?
Deer and rabbits exist in forests and there's no lore to suggest the Kokiri are strict vegans.

>>747319394
The new outfit is so fucking stupidly overdone it is honestly embarrassing. Less is more. He looks like he's about to go on a Mardi gras parade, not an adventure. Fucking pathetic.

>>747332064
The other tunics have their own designs but we have yet to get a good enough look at them to be able to criticize them.

>>747330672
Kek!

>>747332436
If it was squeenix I would have guessed nomura was involved.

>>747331785
no, they have to wear grass underpants, I am afraid.

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>>747318113
Yes
>no flat surfaces allowed
>gotta put lines and textures everywhere

>>747319945
cause Nintendo is consistently out of touch and MUH CHANGE FOR CHANGE'S SAKE retarded, so you should always temper your expectations of them.
They've unfortunately been this way for decades

>>747319586
So what?

I’m thinking Metroid won.

>>747332147
Rauru stepped out and went shopping.

>>747333835
you don't think for shit, shut up

>>747318113
i hate so much that normalfags think graphical fidelity, character design, 3d model, and art style are all the same thing

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>>747319394
Honestly it wouldn't even look that bad if he didn't have the leather jacket ontop of the tunic.

>>747334659
I think it's fine that they're finally giving Link some kind of armor at all. Him not wearing any always bugged me. Besides the gold armor in Twilight Princess, when else has Link ever had actual armor?

>>747318113
Anon is so fucking pissed the game has a higher fidelity
>why does it look so... different?
lmfao

>>747326912
Yes they're textured aren't they

>>747318113
Yeah, but every single character besides Link is perfect. I'm hoping they have alternate outfits for him.

>>747334971
>Besides the gold armor in Twilight Princess, when else has Link ever had actual armor?
He's wearing chainmail under the regular tunic in TP and SS.

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>>747335554
>He's wearing chainmail under the regular tunic in TP and SS
Well I'll be damned.

>>747334201
Warped

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Over a thousand fucking hours in MS Paint.
I suck at this

>>747318113
yes and this looks like shit

>>747319231
they have metallurgy too, they just suck at weaving, apparently

>>747318113
Looks more uselessdesigned than overdesigned

>>747318113
Why the fuck would you ever put armor OVER the tunic? That's retarded. The whole point of wearing it as an overcoat is that it keeps enemies from spotting the weak spots in the armor worn underneath it.

>>747337610
'the point of a tunic is to hide armor' are you even fucking listening to yourself?

>>747321059
>this "makes sense cause made in a forest" bullshit is the most low IQ retard nigger cattle take ever.
Honestly, I don't really understand why people are suddenly clamoring for in-game reasoning to excuse retarded shit. Seems like only yesterday people were bashing on Quiet from MGSV for being practically naked even though "it makes sense in-game because she breathes through her skin!".

>>747337806
Link is already wearing a longsleeved undertunic. That's the white cloth.

The green tunic is an overcoat.
You can even see in the original art that it's standing loose from the white undertunic, hinting at a mail or leather armor adding padding inbetween.

>>747337828
and I don't know why half the retards in this thread are going on about textiles and the logistics of getting fabric when it's a fantasy game. Go play a rerelease or the remaster on 3DS if you want the same old thing. Endless bitching about nintendo not putting in effort and rereleasing games then this endless bitching about remaking the entire game.

It's supposed to be maximalist like classic fantasy art. That's why everything important has insane details added to it.

>>747337828
Because it's the diehard tendie cult, they operate identically to groups such as Blizzard and Disney addicts.

>>747338068
>and I don't know why half the retards in this thread are going on about textiles and the logistics of getting fabric when it's a fantasy game
Because they are countering the argument of "it doesn't look like shit because it makes sense!" under the grounds that it doesn't actually make sense.

>>747336682
Pretty good job

>>747338029
On this one, some of the tunic is leather armored, or maybe a leather vest.
So what?

What i like
>The clothes
>The vest
What i dislike
>Overly detailed boots
>Overly detailed gloves
>Overly detailed belt
Remove these three last things and it will be fine

>>747336835
>they just suck at weaving, apparently
It's a matter of knowledge and resources. Similar things happen in real world cultures who have limited access to certain materials. When Europeans travelled the world and interacted with/colonized different peoples, finely woven cloth was essentially as good as trading in gold.

I literally just read a story a week or two ago about this Scottish dude who was travelling through Africa and basically bought a little girl with a few pieces of cloth. The simple fact is that having the knowledge to figure out how to spin thread, as well as access to the resources required is a lot more lofty than people think it is.

I want to see what the other tunics are like. Kokiri tunic gives forest boy, which is sensible, but operates less as a default costume for Link. So, I'm wondering if the Goron tunic will be something really fierce, and the Zora tunic will be something really sleek

Also not to make excuses or be a nintendie but 'classic costume' DLC is right up the alley here. Hope they have the sensibility to do that.

>>747338463
>Overly detailed
tired of this phrase already. It's exactly as detailed as they intended it to be.

>>747338582
>So, I'm wondering if the Goron tunic will be something really fierce, and the Zora tunic will be something really sleek
There are brief shots of them in some of the clips I've seen. It's hard to tell exactly what they're made out of, but it's clearly not grass.

>>747318113
never realized how beefy old link is
nu link is puny

>>747338684
>It's exactly as detailed as they intended it to be.
But there's no reason for the belt boots and gloves to have all these symbols it takes away all the attention from the face and actual sword

>>747318216
Schizo, kys

>>747338810
He's going to be running around on-screen, don't you worry. Those textures are not overly visible like that, and the gilded sheath and ultramarine mastersword hilt still strike. At least that's what I've seen in motion.

>>747338684
>It's exactly as detailed as they intended it to be.
Which is overly detailed to any outside observer with functioning eyesight. It's gaudy if you prefer that term.

>>747338810
>But there's no reason for the belt boots and gloves to have all these symbols
Correct. That's why it's called "decorative".
>it takes away all the ettention from the face and actual sword
Sorry you're so easily distracted. Is it ADHD or autism?

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>>747318612
hood looks like a lich

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Medieval peoples actually wore pretty elaborate clothing with heavy detail work and the idea that they wore simple clothing is a Renaissance-era revisionism that was created to make people from the era feel more backwards than people living in the then-contemporary Renaissance. But /v/ isn't ready to have the conversation that most modern views of the medieval era have been filtered through a period of nearly 300 years of revisionism and propaganda created by Renaissance intellectuals to further their own personal agendas.

>>747339031
>That's why it's called "decorative".
These decorative are useless and just complicate a look even further for no reason especially when the new (Admitelly cool) vest is already so detailed
>Sorry you're so easily distracted.
it happens when there are so many fucking things going on

>>747319586
Ok? he still looks like the Hero of Down's

Wierd that the master sword is the only thing that looks 1:1 with the original art

>>747330895
give them back, mido

I was pretty insulted when Aonuma said OoT was 'not a game where you could go anywhere', it was as open world as humanly possible at the time and yes you could wander an ever-opening world just like every other open world game and even BoTW which keeps you on a plateau to start. I know their business model is to act like they're correcting and returning Zelda to lost open-world roots, but Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess were the only ones that were unopen as shit, Skyward Sword being completely unexplorable and Twilight Princess being unfortunately crippled by too many on-track wolf segment and other long unopen chunks of gameplay.
Okay fine Wind Waker is also pretty awful for making you play well for 2 hours before letting you fucking sail
Point being, OoT has no linearity problem

>>747339152
It's literally a fantasy game about a legendary celtic-type elf man. I hate to go 'so why do you have a problem with a lexus in lord of the rings' here but we don't even have to do the math. The damn tunic was made by fucking fairies and long-lived forest children.

>>747339152
This. But also this is Hyrule. A fucking fantasy setting. It isn't real. The clothing can look like whatever they want it to look like. And they decided ornately-embossed leather and coarsely-woven grass. That's really all the justification they need.

If someone doesn't like it, that's fine, but don't start citing historical prescedent as to why a fictional forest fairy boy's clothing is wrong.

>>747318113
that armor looks like my foreskin lul

>>747339152
You're correct but it's also a fantasy game so they didn't have to hold to historical accuracy. That's probably one of the better justifications you could come up for the elaborate details though.

>>747339405
Why did they change Navi from boy (blue) to girl (pink)?

no because it's an asset in a video game it can be as detailed as their hearts desire

>>747339817
Navi is female

>>747335554
it's also implied in LttP, since you get upgraded to blue mail and then red mail

Yeah what the hell I thought the Kokiri were a bunch of strung out and hopeless burnt-out losers who would never just sit around in a crafting circle kicking their feet embossing their shoes and saying 'he he :D' as they show off their super secret awesome flower tunic embroidery technique

>>747318113
Infinitely better on the right.

Huge credit given for keeping Navi a glowing orb. They could have made her an actual three-dimensional bitch and they showed restraint in not doing that.

>>747319394
Has no one noticed that the leather over the tunic is fashioned after Kaepora's owl form? That's actually a sick attention to detail, like he made it for Link. I'm also assuming he gives young Link that feather on his cap that allows him to dash. If you don't think that's hot shit you're gay

>>747339405
The more people post the comparison, the more I like the new designs. Yeah, the old ones are iconic, but it's not like they're being erased. They've been done plenty of justice already.

Besides, it's pretty clear that this is just another 1:1 remake with a few tweaks to make it more palatable to modern audiences, so really doing something different with the visuals is kind of the entire point. If you hate them that much, you can just go back and play the original.

>>747339152
I guarantee you farmboy peasants were not dressing up elaborately. That would be for urbanites and royals, and they are properly depicted in elaborate clothing in both OOT versions. Though Link's heavily engraved and assorted clothing in the remake almost makes the royal clothing look simple by comparison.

>>747340051
I had not noticed that, that is sick.

>>747319586
>IT'S BASED ON A CONCEPT THEREFORE

>>747340101
>I guarantee you farmboy peasants were not dressing up elaborately.
Good thing that Link is neither, and is instead a magical fairy-boy from the forest. What did they dress like, according to history? Oh, right. They're fictional.

Retard.

As much as I do not want this game to be shat up with new modern gaming functions, I think a dignified costume/clothing shop in the style of DK Bonanza or Mario Odyssey would go so fucking hard here. Yeah yeah give me something to spend rupees on. I'll walk to Goron City to buy me some rocky armguards. I like that.

>>747323675
>its design reflects the race that made it like the other two tunics do
But the adult outfit was given to him by Rauru while he was asleep, and is supposed to be the hero's garb (SS Link's tunic).

>>747318894
They're stamped, which is absolutely something that a European noble might want, but not actually practical for marching. Travel and combat boots would be a much thicker cowhide and treated with all sorts of shit that would darken it and obscure the stamping.
Now, the argument is that this is high fantasy and we can enchant our clothes to be whatever we want, but the obvious goal for the rest of it was trying to make this look like something feasible and stylish. If you were just going to go magic clothes route, you could've put him in the silk dress and stockings like everyone apparently wanted (though I like this new design).

>>747340510
It has Gebora's face on the chest and Rauru is associated with Gebora

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>>747340510
>Rauru when he was dressing unconscious Link

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When you think about it AAA games suck now cause of a bunch of old 50 or 60+ year olds run things where back in the day the golden age of video games they were all 20 and 30 year old running things having great new ideas and were actually in tune with what the young people liked.

This is probably the biggest reason games suck now. Old farts who were once great stuck in the past.

i think it's more like arbitrary addition of elements, rather than having too many in general. having artistic intent means you have to balance composition into your work, and i think making something visually readable means cutting down on detail. However, if it's needed for various motifs in your design, then it can be justified as well. it's hard to make that call. There's no universal law on how much detail should exist.

In this case, i think having the embossed patterns might be too much, but in motion you probably won't be jarred by it, or in a cutscene. the tunic fabric having clear hemp-like weaving is also a bit much, however i think with their style it's like they wanted it to be realism-esque, so there has to be some semblance of material going on rather than just a flat out sheet of green.

anyway, to answer your question, i don't think so. it's just a bad paraphrase for arbitrary elements that interrupt composition. you can do that with a minimal design too though, hence why i don't consider it valid.

>>747321059
>hey faggot how did they make his leather shit in a forest?
Someone's never read My Side of the Mountain!
Granted, apparently the book was a little wrong about something. All you need to make leather is the hide, tree bark, something to boil water in, and a fire. You boil the tree bark in water and mush it until it makes this dark, tannin-rich concoction (why it's called Tanning), and then you soak the hide in that for a few weeks. You work it with the fat oil from whatever you killed to get it, and you should be golden.
You can dye or paint the color.

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>>747318113
Its just supposed to be simple cloth over some chainmail, which is over a body suit of some kind, personally I like the soldiers armor they gave him in botw, link looks cool in proper armor.

>>747319394
Left looks like some overdone koream mmo gook ai slop

>>747341945
>Right*

Im stoopid and drunk but yea, not a big fan of right

>>747321059
>he doesn't know that here are plants that bleed rubber when you cut them.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DqYm0C-CTR8

You could probably fashion a rudimentary armor by layering big ass elephant ear leaves and latex gathered from local trees.