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>Kojima demands hundreds of millions for his next flop
>Sony says uh no, your last game doesn't sell,
Why are people saying Sony is in the wrong?
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>>747357401
He's such a hack
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People don't like Sony right now due to the Disc thing I think. Personally I'm always going to shit on any big company.
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>>747357401
i would love to get some details on what happened
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>>747357401
Because I'm 100% certain whatever Kojimbo was doing would end up costing less than Concord.

Sony didn't pull the plug because of costs, they did so because his project didn't contain enough tranny faggots with pronouns in their bio.
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Funny how ghost of yotei sold the same and it a sucess
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Kojima is a legendary visionary, sony should put out his games just for the sake of art.
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>>747357401
>>Kojima demands hundreds of millions for his next flop
was that the reason?
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>>747357401
>Wasted money at Konami so they fired him, but it totally wasn't his fault
>Wasted money at Sony Film so they fired him, but it totally wasn't his fault
>Wasted money at Sony so they fired him, but it totally wasn't his fault
You are here
>Wasted money at A24 so they fired him, but it totally wasn't his fault
>Wasted money at Xbox so they fired him, but it totally wasn't his fault
>Wasted Nintendo's money so they fired him, but it totally wasn't his fault
>Wasted everyone's money with his Kickstarter so they demanded refunds, but it totally wasn't his fault
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>your last game doesn't sell,
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>>747357912
All his games have turned profit btw
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>>747357708
Is this bait? OD literally has a tranny in it. That's more than enough to cover for the woke quota, high profile games have niggers and colour hairs in them and shit, but a literal tranny playing a character that's something else. Even Naughty Dog didn't have that. And Kojima constantly doing photoshoots with that freak, he probably gets fucked in the ass by him.
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Death Stranding was fucking stupid, the sequel was even worse. All these "famous actors" at his disposal and he's unable to make a good game anymore. It's just sad. He's probably spent more time on "casting" than he has on the fucking games.
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sony dumps hundreds of millions into failed life service games but cant give the guy whos guaranteed to give you a critically acclaimed system seller which will PROBABLY break even enough funds?
why should I support sony in this case? as a gamer and as a businessman, if you ask me to take a gamble on kojima or on generic hero shooter #34895 I'm picking la creatividad
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Sorry Hideo, but Druckmann and the team making that shitfuck awful Horizon live service thing need that money. Please understand, if we keep funneling money this shit absolutely no-one wants, it'll eventually be successful.
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Playing through the Dark Souls games for the first time, do you guys recommend the original DS2 or SotFS?
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>>747358112
>whos guaranteed to give you a critically acclaimed system seller
I'm afraid it's been 27 years since his games commanded that kind of reaction
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>>747358185
I think they're both pretty naff but Scholar is the one I got more enjoyment out of.
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>>747357401
Because it would be hilarious if Sony had another massive flop like Concorde
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>>747357401
>cancelling Kojimbo's game in order to push yet another DOA live service extraction shooter
Why are you saying Sony is in the right?
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Sony may as well be the multiplat console now. They haven't had a good exclusive since the PS4 days. Haven't turned my PS5 on since 2024.
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Video games should be made to entertain us and not to appease investors.
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>>747358207
The point about Sony wasting more money on less interesting live service slop still stands.
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>>747357401
Kojima is a heck. BUT, I would give him money over ganes like Concord 2 or wokesomaniac, or drunkman or beard women or...the list just keeps going really
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>>747358207
>Death Stranding received generally positive reviews. Critics praised its voice acting, soundtrack, and visuals, with more mixed opinions regarding its gameplay and story. The game was nominated for several awards and won the most GOTY awards of any game in 2019.
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>>747357630
>Hideo's going to take us on an exciting new adventure, one I've been encouraging him to reinvent for years
Hiroki Totoki saw Hulst was behind it and pulled the plug.
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>>747358257
they have like 4 GaaS coming out and they are all going to crash in burn in less than 4 months from release
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>>747357708
No, they pulled the plug because it was going to be a single player game. Sony is transitioning (heh) towards making nothing but live service games with the intent of eventually lucking out into having their very own Fortnite.
A similar, but different reason lies behind Kojima leaving Konami. Konami didn't boot him because they hated him on a personal level but rather because they decided they didn't want to make AAA or even AA games anymore. They wanted to be a gambling company with some mobile games.
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>>747357401
>Sony pumping hundreds of millions of dollars into slop like Wolverine
>goated Kojima wants to create another all-time banger
>Sony denies him
fucking snoys get the rope
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>>747357401
You forget Sony funded Concord.
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>>747357967
Go ahead and post the numbers, shill bro. Praise kojima.
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>>747358112
also something I forgot to mention:

THIS WAS THE NEW METAL GEAR GAME

THIS WASNT SOME WEIRD 'STRAND TYPE GAME'

YOU CAN GIVE KOJIMA THE MONEY WHEN HE TELLS YOU HE WANTS TO MAKE THE NEW ACTION STEALTH GAME
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>>747357401
can he just make a video game this time instead of hiring actors and mocapping 13 hours of cutscenes because he likes larping as a film director?
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>>747357401
I hate Snoy and Kekjima
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They are right to get rid of him its just they insist on keeping Bungie despite Marathon flopping compared to Destiny and a bunch of other goyslop they have planned like GOW Laundry and Super galactic Space Lesbian or whatever it is
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>>747358498
>System seller
How many people bought a PS4 for DS. How many bought a PS5 for DS2? The PS5 ramping up for GTAVI is what a system seller is lil bro
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>>747358756
yeah...not really
Kojima made MGS 4 and that was horrible
Kojima also made peace walker and eventually MGS 5. and those are awful too
Kojima will need to get lucky or put his shit together to pull another good MGS
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Death Stranding was the biggest waste of time I've ever played and I only played 15 hours of that slop.
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>>747358870
IIRC Kojima said this is more of a movie than any of his previous games.
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>>747358756
After MGSV nah you're alright, lad. 8 hours of game stretched out to 80 ain't it. DS followed this shit logic as well and look how that turned out.
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>>747357401
>gets fired from Konami
>gets fired from Sony
>FUCK EVERYONE KEEP GIVING INFINITE MONEY TO MY GOD KOJIMA
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>>747359243
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>>747359187
>system seller
>also on other platforms

also yeah, a bunch of people bought playstations for these games. which makes sony's decision all the more baffling. I can somewhat understand cutting Kojima off if you're Konami, but Sony? You sell the console. You have a big incentive to keep prestigious exclusives, to create a broad library of games that hit enough niches of people going "I have to play that".
Nintendo funds a bunch of shit that may or may not be profitable like Bayonetta because that's what you do when you OWN THE PLATFORM. You fund shit that gets people ON YOUR PLATFORM.
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You know he fucked the tranny.
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Death Stranding was an absolute travesty
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>>747359351
Yeah I'm not too happy about it either.
I don't know, I actually liked MGS5 quite a bit. The gameplay is fun.
Hell I thought Death Stranding 1 was alright too.
So I am cautiously interested. But I want gameplay! He's got a god tier engine, bloody use it!
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>>747357995
>Even Naughty Dog didn't have that.
Wrong. Lev.
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>>747357401
Cause with him. at least you get an actual game in return
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>>747359561
OD is vaporware, and he has the gall to announce a second game right after that. Two vaporware games. Retarded nip tranny lover hack.
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>>747359214
>>747359316
the game would need to be completely terrible to the point of reviews killing all hype in order for "new stealth game by the creator of metal gear" to not sell like 15 million copies
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>>747359671
no MGS game has ever sold 15 million. Delta came out and only sold 2
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>>747359638
>snoys when kojimbo partnered with sony: WE WON!
>snoys when kojimbo leaves sony: WE WON
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>>747357401
He was walking around for 3 MONTHS without finding a partner. And in the end he settled for the scamming ai jeet.
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>invent shit
>make threads in 4chan
why is OP always a fucking retard?
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MGS5 was great tho.
Never played Death Stranding, looks like ass.
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>>747357708
>famously far right, reactionary chud Hideo Kojima
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>>747359757
delta is also shit
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>>747357995
Kojima is a pretty smart purchase on xbox's part. He pushes believes in prog politics and has sway with the japs devs, westaboos and millenials thanks to metal gear. If the next xbox is a pc hybrid they'd actually grab a good market using kojima's awful games and name. The younger jap boys and men really like pc gaming, but keep getting more and more priced out of it.

T.half jap
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>>747360108
Kojima makes great games
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Really sick of the kojima dick sucking.
>NOOO HE IS A LE GENIUS AND SHIT BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY MAKES GAMES!
That just means everything else is just so bad, you are just desperate, grabbing at scraps. Pathetic fucks, you bunch.
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>>747360315
You'll survive
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>>747357401
ESL spotted
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>Kojima raped /v/ in the sweltering summer of 2026
>KWAB - Kojima Was Always Based
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>>747360376
I am sure this is all just a farse, a lie. You just pretend to like kojima to piss people off. It must be.
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>>747360234
I like metal gear, but that was a team effort. Most of kojima's "solo" head lead games were a mess. This isn't even counting kojima productions.
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>>747360536
why wouldnt I like kojima
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>>747360581
Because the story of metal gear is fucking retarded? Man, you people have low standards.
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>>747360784
I think the only MGS game with a distractingly messy story is MGS4.

And even then, they're great games. Why would I give a shit if the story gets wacky?
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>>747360784
filtered
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>>747361025
>filtered
Nice shitpost, kojidrone.
>>747360953
Then he isn't a genius, retard. He just got lucky that fags like (You) are addicted to his games.
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>>747358751
Go ahead and post how he HASNT made profit, 'cordtroon
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>>747361104
I didn't call him a genius, I asked why I should dislike him and you gave a terrible reason.
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>>747357708
>Because I'm 100% certain whatever Kojimbo was doing would end up costing less than Concord.
Concord cost $400 million to make but with a potential profit in the billions had it not failed.
PHYSINT was a single player title that would be "integrating" Sony's film division. It would be a standard large scale AAA title, which cost over $200 million to make, and considering the necessity for the film division in this, it would likely go over the high end estimates for modern AAA, that being $300 million.
Its potential for profit is far lower than any live service due to it being single player. 90% of all players are expected to only be making a one time purchase. After advertising costs, it's likely Physint would also, at least, cost nearly as much as Concord. I will round down to $350 million.

To recoup that through game sales, presuming $70 as a base price, and subtracting $25 from that for various fees like fees from retailers, the game would need to sell over 7 million copies.
Even if we go for the lowest end estimate, which would not be anywhere near the development costs of this game, he would still need to sell over 4 million copies.

Death Stranding 2 sold 1.6 million copies. Less than 1 million on PS5 alone, the console where Sony actually makes the most money per game sale.

He was a money sink and he is the SOLE common factor in both of his firings.
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>>747357736
But how much did it cost? How many millions did the director spend on photoshoots with celebrities?
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>>747361208
You are the one who says he always makes profit. The burden of proof is on you, stupid shit eating fuck. Don't worry, i admit your cuckcession already.
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>>747361104
filtered
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>>747357401
>hasn't made a good game since MGS4

Konami kept his autistic ass in check.
Since leaving you can see his work has completely jumped the shark.
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>>747361338
you're the one saying he wasted money
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>>747357708
Concord and all their other live service flops is why they can't afford Kojima or anyone else good right now.
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>>747361427
cuckcession accepted
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>>747361545
>cuckcession accpeted
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>>747359243
this is anti-Kojima propaganda, and I will not stand for it
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>Wojak
nuff said. thanks for blowing yourself the fuck out, noob.
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blew out your mom's back last night
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18+ board, alphie.
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>>747357401
>your last game doesn't sell
God I wish we could purge this board of all ESL thirdies somehow
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>>747361295
Nta, but he was an important money sink. This just solidifies the moving away from japan mentality. Kojima actually is a big pillar in terms of westaboos and jp ps gamers. Capcom is trying to get these die hards to leave ps, but now with kojima leaving ps as well some might start to jump.
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>>747357401
Kojima is a parasitic creature but he's also based at the same time because he's using his meme status as a "genius" game director to suck money from these multimillion companies so she can hang out with his current favorite celebrities and scan actresses' feet. He's a total hack fraud dipshit but I can't really blame him for continuing his scam since all companies suck and are so repulsive that I kinda like that he's bullshitting his way into stealing their money. They all deserve each other.
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>>747357401
probably because Sony is showing how anti-consumer they are as of late, along with Microsoft. why would they or Microsoft care to hire people that actually put people's experiences over money?
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>>747357401
Kojima never learned the concept "1 for you, 1 for me."
Traditional Hollywood directors would knowingly make something that is not exactly what they wanted but would make a lot of money. Part of that money would be set aside for them to make a personal project that has less of a chance at success, but when combined, the two movies still overall profited.
Kojima just wants to make his autistic multi-media-meta-commentary "games" where he gets to play pretend with a bunch of Hollywood actors and waste millions fucking around with technology. Of course, video games take too long to make now so it is hard to do "one for you, one for me." You can't spend 5 years making a game that you think will be a hit to then spend 3-4 years making a personal project. A director, back in the day, could get a bulk of the work done on a film in like 12-16 months and be on to making their own project while post-production was wrapping up. I think the 90s it was like ~2 years from pre production to the theater. Hard to do the same when it is 5 years.
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Why is everyone assuming it won't have some analogue game mode? Nigga loves his online features, every game since mgs3 has had some form of online.
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>>747357708
Kojima literally got fired from konami after blowing up all the budget making an incomplete game lol
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>>747362301
Shills pretend we have the memory of a gold fish.
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you are filtered and mad and balding
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>>747357401
>konami cuts ties with this parasite after he ran the company into the ground
>sony picks him up and realizes he's nothing but a hack after his walking simulators flopped
>now MS is making the same mistake
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>>747362398
After physint sells like 2M copies and has a mixed reception he will go "herro fund next game?" and he'll get told to take a hike. I don't know who he'll find to scam next. His productions are just too expensive and the guy is not interested in making traditional video games anymore.
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>>747357995
A White transwomen that looks beautiful. Dont play dumb games you jew
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>>747362398
At least it's funny. Xbox is trying to fund good single player games but they have the dumbest/ most pozzed devs around. Just look at fable changing like 3 times. The ps thing is just sad. People just want one to play gta and all money is going towards live service shit.
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>>747362562
No tranny looks good faggot. Even the thai ones say a troon is still a man and you can't change that.
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We used to live in a world where not every studio game had to try to sell to everyone every big game is homologated slop now because budgets are way overblown.
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>>747357401
They only spend hundreds of millions of dollars on live service flops with 900 active players
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>>747358614
Isn't that exactly what Konami tried and then came back with their tail between their legs?
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I understand what they're doing on a business level, but Kojima is the kind of guy that you employ at a loss to have him make actually interesting games that improve the perception of your brand.
Kicking someone like him out, in a creative industry, just makes you look like a soulless machine which is bad for your brand in a way that saving a million here or there can't make up for.
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>>747359116
Also Horizon, the most forced franchise to ever exist.
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>>747357401
A metal gear successor is guaranteed to sell and will be better received than interstellar
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>>747362665
>muh ladyboys
You jews are really everything what people claim you to be.
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>Death Stranding 1+2
>Sold 10 millions
>Costed gorillions
>"Kojima-sama...go make your games with your money"
NOOOO SONY BAD!
fuck soitendo and females and trannies that love soitendo games
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>>747357401
>Kojima thread
>Looks inside
>The most low IQ people are once again making shit up about Kojima as well as repeating the popular opinion.

Kojima is truly at the top of his game if people can only say stupid nonsense in order to ''criticize'' him.
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>>747362698
>Overblown
The economic factors surrounding the vidya industry have a way bigger impact than anything else. Inflation + cost of living + (justifiable) resistance from customers has resulted in this.
Most of the budget of a game is paying the people who make it. You have to pay them more due to inflation. You cannot raise the cost of games constantly, we already saw that gamers are for the most part not accepting $80 games (GTA6 notwithstanding) and so what do you do? You can't raise the price of the product. You can't have less people working on games that take longer. All you can do is try to get as many people as possible to buy it by appealing to as many people as possible. The problem being that this results in games like Wolverine that are made for literal retards and are now scoring in the 70s because of it.

AAA Vidya is fucked in the short term.
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>>747363019
We'll see when xbox kicks him too, kojidrone. We will see.
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We dont take kindly to snoy round these parts
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>>747362930
Shut up tranny fag. I hate you and the gems equally. Everything you push and believe is because one of them told you to do so.
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>>747363023
the only real fix is lower scope, bring in AI and have massive layoffs
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>>747363186
Xbox is in no position to criticize other developers for mismanagement. Tell me, how much MGSV,DS1 and DS2 costed to make?(Spoiler: They costed less than the average sony movie)
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>>747363664
Mhm
Keep coping and staying in denial
Once kojimbo gets kicked from xbox, then he will fucking sell candies in some street corner. and you will hang your pathetic self.
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>>747363779
>Doesn't address the question

Point proven. Once OD and Physint become successful, what is gonna be the next excuse?
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this is all because concord, marathon. the bungie deal, and the entire live service pushed flopped hard. they cant afford to have a artist like kojima take his time to make his game his way, and they need maximum profit through cancelling physical disks to profit 100% from sales. this is what happens when your company is run by MBA accountants who got the job based entirely on their GPA rather than interest in the industry.
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>>747363923
You don't get kicked from places ofr being successful. Keep changing the facts, i bet you can cope even harder.
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>>747362034
Kojima hasn't been important since 2015 or 2016. A lot of millenial gamers loved him then but they either forgot about him or figured him out and just moved on. Zoomers don't really have nostalgia for the MGS series and he'sa literal who outside of weeaboo circles. Even the Japs don't like him since he's more of a California westaboo than a Japanese person at this point.

He is not that important anymore. even the sales of his games reflect that.
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>>747364019
>you don't get kicked from places from being successful
you clearly don't know the gaming industry
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Players don't know what they want, Kojima gave you one of the best remasters and you turned your back to it. unfaithful and unfilial vermin.
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>>747363923
>Once OD and Physint become successful,
didn't happen with Death Strading, won't happen with them
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>>747364019
Let's see the track record of the companies that kicked him out.

Konami: Produced nothing but slop after he left in 2015, MG Survive, Pachinko, Silent Hill 2R, MGS Delta, Silent Hill f and now SH Townfall.

Sony: Funds live service sludge that nobody wants to play, as well as movie games designed for the low IQ masses(Wolverine)

Maybe Kojima lost nothing in the process.
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>>747359779
>snoys when kojimbo partnered with sony and no one knew how he blew a bunch of money making MGSV and screwed other Konami projects to the point that they became a pachinko company for a bit: WE WON!
>snoys when kojimbo leaves sony after realizing the above and seeing him make garbage ubereats games no one wants to play with third rate actresses he wants to sleep with body-scanned in: WE WON

i'm not even fond of snoys, but you have to be retarded to not see how hiring a retard that got fired for doing the same thing twice won't result in the same shit.
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>>747362665
Hate trannies but dont bundle them together, anon.
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>>747364417
>but you have to be retarded to not see how hiring a retard that got fired for doing the same thing twice won't result in the same shit.
i agree, and >>747359779 still stands
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Kojima being a money waster doesn’t make Sony any less scummy.
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>>747364375
>Ported to multiple systems
>Got a sequel
>Live action movie in development
>Anime series in the works.
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>>747361295
"Had it not failed"

Anyone that isn't retarded could have seen it failing from orbit.

"It would have been great if it didn't suck!"
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>>747364060
>Even the Japs don't like him since he's more of a California westaboo than a Japanese person at this point.

The Japanese were the ones who liked Death Stranding way before the West started to appreciate it.
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>>747357401
Crazy cultists and wanting to stick it to Sony no matter what kind of crazy person is on the other end. The latter is almost understandable if it wasn't La Hackidad.
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>>747364547
yeah Onimusha also got an anime before the new gama was even announced, that's not impressive in the slightest
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>>747364604
My point was that its budget was justifiable from a business perspective.
Kojima games don't sell enough to cover his budget. He won't back down from his high budgets, so he was cutoff.
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>>747364492
Would any of the right if their voice sounds feminine enough to trick me into not being extremely disgusted at looking at what's seemingly a woman but sounds like a bloke.
And I say this as an almost gay bisexual nigga.
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>>747364534
its sony being incompetent and trying to shed what their business majors see as "losses".typical old-japanese-company-circling-the-drain move
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>>747364528
Don't disagree.

>>747364534
also don't disagree.


>>747364736
Sony hasn't been Japanese for a decade now. This is entirely Kojima wasting money, Hulst catching on and making a sane decision for once rather than funding another live-service flop (a mistake he still continues ironically)
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>>747364193
And you do? you are an anonymous retard shitposting and defending faggot wanna be movie directors for free.
>>747364413
Again, we will see who has the last laugh when he gets kicked from xbox too. I know it is going to happen, and you miserable worms will find some other way to apologize and demonize xbox. It is inevitable at this point. Good thing you idiots can't subsidize kojima since you are all poor fucks.
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>>747364676
Onimusha was already an established series.
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>>747364982
Yeah and it sold like 3 million across all its games before the new one, not sure why you keep pretending like Kekjima slop is successful.
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>>747362301
MGSV is by far the best selling game Kojima ever made and made more than twice its budget on launch day alone.
It was also the game where Kojima had an epiphany and cut hard on cutscenes, turning it into the only thing Kojima's ever made that can be called a videogame.

Of course this board hated it because the subhumans here unironically think Kojima's retarded, detached from reality writing full lf fart jokes is somehow "le postmodern kino".

There's a reason MGSV still has a playerbase to this day while zoomers dont even know who Solid Snake is.
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>>747365129
If something keeps making money, it gets sequels. OD and Physint will be no different.
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>>747363779
>>747364019
>>747364952
Reminder that posters like this are unironic MGS redditors who are perpetually asshurt because Kojima sold them MGSV as a gritty movie and gave them a videogame instead,
They will also turn around and tell you that MGS1 has a "genius" plot.
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>>747357401
>Words that kill
>Would you speak them to me
>With your Breath so still
>It makes me believe
>IN THE FATHER'S SINS!
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>>747365290
Death Stranding 2 didn't make money. I'd be surprised if broke even. Nobody will care about OD and Physint because Xbox is barely relevant these days and Xbros only play Fifa or CoD.
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>>747365350
i shat on the plot, you are demented, holy shit
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>>747357708
>Kojima wanted funding for former US President Barack Obama's daily rate, approximately 6 months of motion capture and acting coaching was scheduled for the new-to-gaming President before Sony pulled the plug
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>>747365350
It's crazy how there's a schizo specifically for jerking off and defending Kojima by insisting all the people who hate him are Kojima fanboys mad that he made one (1) game that came out eleven (11) years ago.
He went right back to making movie games after MGSV nigga.
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>>747365625
I'm surprised he has fanboys at all. Millennial are unironically subhuman for worshiping that bugman.
t. millennial
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>MGS redditors insist the older games were genius and even had some secret writer that made them good
>try MGS1
>"being a good soldier is genetic"
>female soldiers
>"hurr i'm addicted to war"
>"I'm threatening the US with a nuclear strike because I'm a fucking moron who doesn't know jack shit about biology"
Also the very concept of a Metal Gear is absolutely retarded, nuclear submarines do everything Metal Gears do but better and cheaper.
This franchise literally requires you to have a low IQ to tolerate it.
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>>747365625
>He went right back to making movie games after MGSV nigga.
Yes, and if DS1 and 2 were called MGS6 and 7 you would have eaten it up.
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>milk konami for all its worth for your vanity project
>milk sony for all its worth for your vanity project
>milk xbox for all its worth for your vanity project
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>>747365910
You made this post like 8 hours ago man
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>>747366002
And sadly those companies survived
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>>747365997
nah nigga
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MGSV modded to resemble a milsim is literally the only worthwhile part of this entire franchise.
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>>747361338
>wasted money
what do you think that means, anon



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