>House Hlaalu lost 2.3 trillion septims out of nowhere yesterday
Do NOT look at who shorted stocks right before!
>>747445340I fucking love this place.
>>747445340How did the Seventh Family manor collapse? It wasn't even hit by a glider
>>747445340>Vedam Dren took out an insurance policy the day before this happenedWhat the fuck are they hiding?
>>747445561Mysticism. The Nitus Argonians did it.
>>747445340THEY HIT THE SECOND COUNCIL SPIRE
>seen any naked elves? HAHAHAHA
>>747445561Stop asking questions
Never forgot
Shard of the Borealis?! At this time of year? At this time of day? In this part of the country? Localized entirely within your Daedric shrine?
WHERE'S THE FUCKING PT UPDATE
>>747448307it will be out when it's out
Finally, the TR thread.
>>747449509What's more likely to release firstHammerfell or HR?
>>747449671High Rock; Rihad release is madly ambitious especially given how few hammerfell devs there are
>>747449220In ten years.
>>747450006I mean, it's mostly just rocks and desert and shit, they can get away with larger areas i think
>>747450006Hammerfall got approval from PT to start development only because one autistic dev really wants to make the province
>>747450152>one autistic dev really wants to make the provincethat's how you know it's going to be kino
Anyone has mods to make Marskman weapon have Impact Effects?Oh, and one for better Enchant, I'm satisfied with my custom spells, they won't break the game but they are strong on their own but Enchant still feel too weak.
>>747450006>>747450142>>747450152Why don't they just, focus on what's on their plate instead? They already have one main project with two side projects, and now they want to add another one?
>>747450348https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/57329and I guess https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58730 might do what you want?If you're doing a marksman run then I'd recommend https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58511 as well
>>747450487These are all different projects working off a shared asset pool, anon.
>>747450487No? While there is a fair bit of overlap, it's not the same team of people working on everything. And they did set up a rule of no further projects until High Rock and Hammerfell have had their first releases specifically to avoid overstretching
>>747450487Theyre not employees dumbassPeople work on what they wanna work on, theyre not tearing their hair out over deadlines
>>747450534>>747450613The projects have the same devs no? Sometime.>And they did set up a rule of no further projects until High Rock and Hammerfell have had their first releases specifically to avoid overstretchingGood thing they set that rule after the third one.>>747450663Still, 30 years is 30 years.
>>747450707>The projects have the same devs no?Not really. Like i said it's only a couple, and even then it's mostly on PT's side that there's a significant amount of overlap, pretty sure the average TR dev doesn't work on any PT project at all
>>747450707There's some overlap, but like the other anon said people work on what they have motivation to work on and since they're not being paid/accepting donations (other than a yearly server cost fund), they aren't beholden to anyone but their own autism.I'd rather they take their time and release something high quality than just shit out some AI generated slop like Skyrim.
>>747450494>https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/57329That's not what I'm asking, but nice to have.>https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58730That is more like what I'm asking, I have it, but I feel like it's too weak still.>https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58511 I dunno, it feel like cheating to have this.
>>747451064>That's not what I'm askingWhat did you mean then? Like staggering enemies on hit?>but I feel like it's too weak still.You can tweak the values using the config file and script the guy provides if you feel like it's not high enough.>I dunno, it feel like cheating to have this.Bullseye feels like cheating but vastly increasing the enchant capacity on items DOESN'T?That's 100x more impactful than applying bonus damage to headshots.
>>747450951>>747450978My mistake then.>I'd rather they take their time and release something high qualityI mean, I agree with that, but then they take forever to do anything, and they'll apparently redo things not for the first time.Don't misunderstand, I love what we have, but I'm going to criticize too.
>>747450487Because they are cool and also they want to make a continous landmass between provinces
>>747451226>What did you mean then? Like staggering enemies on hit?No no, Marksman doing the pretty noises, like melee does like in, I literally meant, like Impact Effect https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/55508>You can tweak the values using the config file and script the guy provides if you feel like it's not high enoughOh? That's good to know, I'll have to look it up. Config file you say? Thank you.Crafting clothing when.>Bullseye feels like cheating but vastly increasing the enchant capacity on items DOESN'T?It feel weird said like that, I know. I guess it's because it boost Marksman too much for my taste?
>>747451692>I guess it's because it boost Marksman too much for my taste?You can tweak a lot of values in the openmw script options for bullseye at least for sneak and damages, fatigue drain, projectile fall off, etc etc
https://wiki.project-tamriel.com/wiki/Salt_and_Spice_ExpansionSo many cool concepts in these asset sections, damn>elder scrolls>remanite computers>moon colony tech>akaviri spices>more meridia daedra>marukhatis who got erased by the middle dawn
>>747452116You got me at Elder Scrolls, but then you went and said remanite computers and moon colony tech and you got me more.
>>747451880I'll look into it, it's what I wanted, noises of ammo on things, but it will probably be fun when I'll focus on Marksman.I got to download the Alchemy mods one day, I just forgot about since I don't make potions anymore..
>>747452116My heart hopes Bethesda will see the success of Tamriel Rebuilt and try to mimic what worked about morrowind My brain knows it'll be even more grinded down than skyrim
>>747452116Marukhia is sooo fat.
>>747452538I think Bethesda will look at what Skyrim did for their balance sheet and lean into that more.
>>747450487as long as no ones doing retard shit to the master files, and are always working off the same ones, multiple ppl working in tandem is generally just going to mean it gets done fasterthe problems only come later, if that one guy working on that whole section of the map blows it
>>747452470I downloaded alchemy redone, toxicology (disabling the perks via the options), and sane custom potions but I haven't had a chance to test them much yet.Whenever Cyrodiil and Skyrim update I'm gonna start a new stealth focused character and try to focus on brewing poisons.
>>747452538>>747452571I'm so sorry little ones.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymBY-Eh0J8Y
>>747452538theyre not gonna make morrowind again, thats retardedmaybe a demaster, but it wont matter anywayswe have morrowind at home
>>747452538Buddy the people who made morrowind good do not work at bethesda anymore, in fact the majority of them were fired immediately after morrowind released because of creative differences they had with todd's clique during development, which is a big reason why oblivion, skyrim, fallout, and starfield are such utter fucking garbage dogshit.The best possible thing that could happen to the elder scrolls IP is for bethesda to go bankrupt and some hedge fund gets the IP and sits on their ass doing nothing with it but also doesn't send lawyers out to stop fans from making fan games/mods on the IP.there isn't a single development studio around right now that could do elder scrolls any justice, the whole industry is full of dumb fucking cuck retards, foreigners, and women.
>>747452538Morrowind TV show by Amazon.
>>747453098Starring Henry Cavill as the Nord Nerevarine.There's an extended joke sequence during the first episode (Fargoth's Ring) where him and Hrisskar both say "SEEN ANY ELVES" at the same time and laugh hysterically for 45 seconds.The show is cancelled shortly afterwards.
>>747452649>sane custom potionsI want to whine about it that's it's the whole point of Alchemy, to make potions that are better than what you can find and buy, but 466 secs is just ridiculous.20 Health for 15 seconds, 300 pts in other words, is good enough, better than an an Exclusive Restore Health, which is Restore Health 40 pts for 5 secs 200)What worries me is that it could make the other kind of potions, I won't be happy if I make a potion of Lightning Shield and it's still 20 pts for 60 secs.Also, I learned that when you got 45-59 and 60-100 Alchemy, you can see 6 and 8 effect respectively. That's funny.
>>747453268A running theme with these mods is that you can tweak them to your heart's desire.If you think the mod makes them too weak, or limits your ability to scale based on fortified attributes/skills, then just go into the settings and raise the numbersAlso making a potion of lightning shield is just a terrible idea to begin with because unmodded elemental shields are hot garbage and never worth casting.
>>747452950Hey now, Oblivion was good. Sure it was pretty generic, which is why Shivering Isles was so good, but it did a great job at being a good game.Skyrim had far too much problems, butchered too much, but it's real and only fun quality is being a modded sandbox game, but there's still some neat things like the perks, before Dragonborn, you had to think about your build. Rest in Peace spears, and other weapon types.It's interesting how Oblivion and Skyrim solved the problem of weapons. Oblivion picked Blade and Blunt, doesn't matter if it's two handed or not, Skyrim picked One Handed and Two Handed.It's by Fallout 4 that everything turned to shit, not matter the few good ideas they had, there was just too much shit covering it.
>>747453662Shivering Isles is not as good as you remember it being.
>>747453662Oblivion sucks because its dungeons and loot suck.
massive frame drops just to the east of almas thirr... Im starting to think I should just accept reality and lower antialiasing...
>>747453428As all good mod should. What is Spell Framework plus?>Also making a potion of lightning shield is just a terrible idea to begin with because unmodded elemental shields are hot garbage and never worth casting.I was using it as an example, but that's why Better Elemental Shields is there. To make it more painful, for me, especially for me.
>>747453850Get the MGE experimental patch
>born too early for Almalexia>born too late for shitty WoW inspired mods>born just in time for 200 frames in Narsis and Sotha Sil
>>7474453409/11 is in 2 months lil bro
>>747453890It's just a set of APIs that was required for another mod I wanted to try out ( https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58681 )I /think/ it won't be necessary in openmw 0.52 as that build should de-hardcode the rest of the spell system iirc
>>747453817Gotta disagree with you, dungeons are funnier, and loots are funnier. The joy of finishing a dungeon and finding an item that isn't good or useful, but still with multiple cool enchantments really made my days. Finding a Ring of Perfection in a dungeon you happily explored among others? It has no price.It's Skyrim that sucked, no matter what you did, the treasures you would find sucked, only one enchant, even the artifacts sucked.Oh and Leveled Items sucks.
>>747454079Thanks, I was confused since it didn't explain what it did.
>>747454261>Oh and Leveled Items sucksAnon. Every unique item in Oblivion was leveled.Are you the guy that keeps making threads about how Oblivion is some underrated misunderstood masterpiece?
>>747454261one thing I liked about skyrim dungeons is that there was often a short story in them even if it was just a couple of notes written by the bandits or whatever
>>747454309Yeah, you have to look at the github page if you want a more detailed explanation on how it works.
>>747454346No, when I said the last phrase, it was me aknowledging that yes, there are sucky parts. I'm not blind bud.>>747454382I think the only stories I found in Oblivion was: the guy that gave offering to an Atronach, the wizard that moved on with his girl but they broke off because the girl wasn't into the whole living in a dungeon thing. the twist being that as she left, she stumbled down and slowly died. You find her corpse, while the wizard doesn't know and thanks to his journal, her think her crying for help was just him hearing voices due to missing her. Very tragic. There's also the Grey Prince's dungeon. Poor vampire just wanted to be a father and he got sealed.And I think that's all.
>>747452116>https://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/asset/pc-dawn-victimsThat's creepy af
>>747450487Don't worry. They're just going to keep adding low quality shit to every project and call it a day. Is literally quantity > quality mentality.
>>747452950>oblivion, skyrim, fallout, and starfield are such utter fucking garbage dogshit.>in fact the majority of them were fired immediately after morrowinAside from never playing the game you're going to give morrowindfags the reputation of talking shit out of their ass
>>747454584Ooh, I haven't come across the first one, sounds good
One thing I have to hand it to Skyrim, they did the visual of spells and enchantments right. They in themselves suck, but visually? They look great. Obviously mods do it better, but it's a something I can appreciate..
Previously on /mwg/: >>747303885
Exploring a small cave east from Tel Fyr...looks dangerous.
generals belong on /vg/
>>747457628So go there and post in your hall monitor general
>>747457628/vg/ has a rule against non-general threads. /v/ does not have a rule against general threads
Decorated a room for grug mercenary, including the hide and soul gem of this absolute unit since I figured she'd want hunting trophieshttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/Tamriel_Rebuilt:Ga%27Nahiru,_or_the_Great_Beast(the book is ABCs for Barbarians)
>>747450006>>747449671The problem is that the main blocker for High Rock, Ostern assets (basically a Breton subculture) doesn't have anyone working on it or signaling they want to.
>>747458809>collaborative project is clogged up by an artist shortageevery time
>>747445340Everyone says Dagoth did Hearthfire 11th but I know without a shadow of doubt it was an inside job by Hlaalu and the East Empire Company. Burning bug wax can't melt iron beams.
>>747454645They should implement them as a 2d character. Just totally flat, and sat in the room at 90 degree angles to the player until you get close enough to trigger them.
WILL tr flow seamlessly into a playthrough, like will i come across a reason to explore the new regions while roaming vvardenfell or do you gotta just go there?
>>747445340that's not funnyi walked through blood and bones on the hills of red mountain trying to find my brother
>>747459128With tr quests it definitely does. You get asked to go there for the hortator quests, and the requirements to advance in guilds have increased so you need to go there to find more guild quests too.
Hot take, I like dashing with the Swimming Mod.
>>747459398lol
>>747459398>he was in solstheimlmao
>>747459398>>747461397kekd
R8 the fit
>>74746272317 children
>>747462752If you insist, spread em
>>747450494Does Marksman's headshot work for everything and everyone, mod included? I don't know much about mods so for all I know, you have to put the head section when you do the model, or not.
>>747462846you're the one wearing a skirt. i'm going to molag bal your vivec ass
>>747462723>stolen redoran master helm and a hlaalu cuirass you're the sort of nigger that would receive a writ of execution
Past a certain age, a man pretending to play Morrowind every day can be a bad thing.
Greetings and salutations!
>>747457692>/v/ does not have a rule against general thre-...ACK!
>>747463561>deputy janny can't reading comprehensionle mao
>>747463676
whaaatare people discussing video games on the video games board? wtf that means less room for the child porn threads! SAVE ME JANNY!!!
>>747445340what a terrible idea for a mod, it reminds me of that tragedy
>>747464375man, i miss the guy
I dunno, sounds like a fair 100 Alchemy potion to me.
>>747464830seems a bit OP imo, you could probably tank dagoth ur naked with just one bottle
>>747465003900 HP is a lot, too much secs, but the rest of the potions are more balanced.Healng need a debuff, the rest less so.
Tamriel Rebuild: Yes or nah?It would be my second playthrough of Morrowind
>>747465721Tamriel Rebuilt is multiple playthroughs of content
>>747465356yeah given that stock potion ceiling is 200pts over 5secs i think a reasonable home brew for a master alchemist would be like 250 or 300, like 50pts over 5secs or maybe a bit lower but longer, idk something about a direst heal potion being over 10secs feels OP to me
>>747465721Yes.
>>747465721No. Get Troxulgia instead.
>>747466147Someone ban this guy.
>>747463561This doesn't look like the Skyrim general
Aw, I wanted the Sword form.
>>747465959I'll have to tweak Sane Custom Potions a lot.
I made it bros....I'm a TAXMAN
>>747467031The C&E mod basically doubles as a home mod. Even have my own bartender now
>>747464830>>747465003>>747465356you can take out the calcinator when making health potionsitll make things substantially more "fair"
>>747467031You are now able to go after us for our money.
>>747467145Also comes with a nice room to store / show off rare loot (there's more space off screen, couldn't get it all in one shoot)
>>747467221I guess I can't just tweak things so that Health potions doesn't end up being broken eh?
>>747467145>stalrhim macedont piss her off>>747467294i think its based off the base spell effect cost thoso you might inadvertently make all health spells and enchants way weaker/more expensive
>>747467393>i think its based off the base spell effect cost tho>so you might inadvertently make all health spells and enchants way weaker/more expensive*pained noises*
>>747467431actually idk that for surebecause light spells are really needlessly expensive to cast, but then you make like a middling potion and itll be >light 255 for 4972 secondsor something insane
>>747467145Isnt this the awful markus mod
>>747467031>>747467145>>747467271Here it is from the outside
i like this alchemy overhaulhttps://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/52928although it's mwse only and it's a bit broken atm but with fixes from the comments it works finei like the idea of every apparatus having it's own function, like mortal to grind shit only, you brew potions through retort, combine them with alembic to produce a stronger potion and clear unwanted effects with the calcinator, and it all takes time too, really fun stuff
>>747467502At least you aren't going to break the game with Light. I think.>>747467708Nice overhaul.>i like the idea of every apparatus having it's own function, like mortal to grind shit only, you brew potions through retort, combine them with alembic to produce a stronger potion and clear unwanted effects with the calcinator, and it all takes time too, really fun stuffI mean, that's how you use them in game, it's just that you aren't shown the process.
>>747445340Is Morrowind the only major rpg where consumables are actually useful? It's the only game where i go out of my way to keep a supply of potions and scrolls in my inventory
>>747468105Vanilla wow.
>>747467708That's cool, have you seen the peggle minigame one, seems rad but might clog inventory with a bunch of vaguely similar potions
>>747467910>At least you aren't going to break the game with Light. I think.you say thatthen you make a light potion that lasts for 20k seconds and makes the entire game look like its under a searchlightthats that one point in time where youre gonna rly wish you had dispel self 100% spell
>>747468105Kept dying to this boss fight repeatedly earlier today until I remembered I had a couple of sujamma on me. Killed him in three hits lol
>>747459128Not at all.TR only really makes any sense if you go there asap, switching between it and vvardenfell leads to a completly nonsensical experience. The actual integration into the base game is pretty bad.
>>747468145no, which one is that?
for me its the potion weightthe default weight calculation is borkedi always just use that codepatch option that makes it so potions, at best, end up a similar weight to exclusive level potions
>>747468174If you have that kind of potion, you should have a Dispel Spell. At least, you will be 100% natural energy.>>747468308Don't the potion you make actually end up being lighter? Or is it the mod?
>>747468378in the vanilla calculation, its absurdyou can laterally carry thousands of custom potions that are 10-100x stronger than anything you can buy
>>747468105probably
In the sidequest A Coldharbour Keelhaul, that daedra Noga-Togroi doesn't appear, either in the shrine or outside of town. Is it because I took Soul Anchor before the quest started?
>>747468280idk
made myself an "argonians argonian". the lizards sure are fucking busted. maybe the best, most focused racial skill bonuses in the whole game. just a top tier spear user right out of the box. so fast tooalso wtf is this new greater power blood magic? is that added by TR? is it what it sounds like where i can use my health pool as magicka for 60 seconds a day? ive been hesitant to click it because i dont actually have much health yet, and i dont wanna kys myself
>>747468175Going out for drinks in tamriel must be a nightmare A guy has a couple shots and he can punch someone into a bloody mist with one blow
>>747462875No, there are some things that it doesn't affect.
>>747472336Pooey.
>>747472356just a consequence of how the models are made I believe
25 years later and still mogs Morrowind
any nice player homes made for the new towns yet?
>>747450152>one autistic dev really wants to make the provinceThat's what you want out of a nodding project
>>747471803i never understood why they have a medium armor bonus despite being primitive tribesmen
>>747471803>blood magicI don't know where the fuck you got that one, but it sure as hell isn't from TR/TD
>the bells can take you to Khaalanthat's cool
Decided to finally complete the main quests for Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim.The experience concluded tonight Skyrim soft locking itself as General Tullius and Ulfric Stormcloak decided they didn't actually want to fight each other, trapping me in the room with both of them as they droned on about what would end the war.
>>747458795I hate these things
>>747473921Years ago I used the console to spawn them on the terrace of Tur Julan. It made for cool player housing.Not sure if I would ever move there again since I assume they changed the assets.
>>747446669What textures?
>>747450006>easternmost part of HR*Sigh* So it's just gonna be more SHoTN
>>747450229Early draft of Rihad
>>747452538>>747452571>>747452785I don't want Bethesda touching Morrowind again. The Fallout updates broke all my saves, fuck that.
>>747476754>SHoTN starts from the west>eww, who cares about high rock slop! gives us the real skyrim!>HR starts from the east>sigh, nord filler again, when are we getting breton kino?
>>747452116>remanite computers>moon colony techSorry, but sci-fi in fantasy settings fucking suck, and it's sad to see that the PT devs are putting it into the mod, since it will tarnish everything related to it. Just let fantasy be fantasy, and not shoehorn in a bunch of shit that is completely jarring to the rest of the world.>buh buh muh kirkbride muh codaWorst parts of TES, almost as bad as the subsequential entries to the series.
>>747454584>as she left, she stumbled down and slowly diedwoman moment loldoesn't want the wizard when she has two healthy legsbreaks one and now it's time for betabux
>>747477226>The Fallout updates broke all my savesBased Todd shitting of fallout 4 fags. Serves you right for playing that garbage.
>>747463561>long-termAnon, we've had these threads for barely a week. Go dilate.
>>747477253>sci-fi in fantasy settings fucking suckWhy are you gay?
>>747477406Because sci-fi fucking sucks. It takes me out of the escapism I find in fantasy worlds.
>>747468174I tried a Dispel 17273pt potion and it doesn't get rid of my other OP potions help
>>747473698Yes it is.. it's the Naga racial power.>>747471803Yes it uses health as magicka
>>747452116>>747454645https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZbK--FCu4
>>747477526Did you shit your diaper when Caius sent you to a sci fi ruin for your second quest
>>747477526Nah, you just have bad taste.
>>747477331>I pay for a game>the game publisher prevents me from playing through their meddling long after the game was released>this is somehow my fault
>>747477647Sometime, I dream of Pelinal Whitestrake and his megabuster.
>>747477656>implying that there is no difference between dwemer ruins and a moon colony???>>747477804>no uWill shills ever get better arguments?
>>747477253>Sorry, but sci-fi in fantasy settings fucking suckAnon... What do you think the Dwemers are?>buh buh muh kirkbride muh coda>Worst parts of TESGaaaaaay. Fair opinion but you did not heard that from me.
>>747473921>KhaalanI'm confused as why is it there, but I haven't updated my game yet.
>>747477526Sci-fi is just another flavor of fantasyFor some reason the masses collectively forgot about this after the 90s. I blame Hollywood.
>>747477873>garbage developer makes shit decisions resulting in bad game>you eat that slop and ask for seconds>publisher takes an other shit on you>"wtf, I'm being shat on!"Sorry but I can't really sympathize.
>>747477918The moons in TES are just a different planes of existence no different from the realms of Oblivion, there's no reason not to have people be able to go there, especially since Imperial territories in outer planes are already fully canon thanks to Battlespire
>>747478060You're stupid.
>>747477918>shills>for a general conceptYou are complete mindbroken and brainrotted. Battlespire is canon btw
I've been visiting the south and east of TR for a bit, and I really like what I'm seeing. I guess the only criticism I have is that Old Ebonheart and Firewatch are so ungodly beeg compared t the other, normaler town?Now gimme a house where I can put all my ingots.>>747478061Nta but didn't Fyr went on one of the moons after Morrowind exploded?
>>747478356>after Morrowind exploded????????????????????
>>747477949I feel like the Dwemer are more inspired by the ancient world and their knowledge of things things mathematical and technical, and not fucking star trek.>>747478048And I don't think it fits at all with TES setting>>747478061>>747478187Battlespire is also the worst game in the series and has almost fuck all to do with the rest of the games.
>>747478393Technically, Vvardenfell.
Speaking of which, why don't people of Tamriel built shit off dwemer technology? I don't mean like getting into tonal engineering, but they clearly have geothermal and steam down there, why does nobody aside insane wizards take it apart and study for profit, can't be just a taboo thing, there's always bandits and shit in the ruins
>>747478413It doed thoughWhat doesn't fit TES is low fantasy sloppa like Skyrim
I'm doing a bit of trolling. https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/60104>>747478413>I feel like the Dwemer are more inspired by the ancient world and their knowledge of things things mathematical and technical, and not fucking star trek.Oh yeah, I'm not saying they got spaceships or whatever. They are technologically advanced, but not THAT advanced. They used mechanical, tonal effects, and such.We don't talk about how Skyrim partially retcon it all into being thanks to soul gems.>>747478485They kinda do, remember that airship from Bloodmoon?
>>747478413>I feel likeWhat you feel is quite different from what is described and shown in the games.>I don't think it fits at all with TES settingIt's there whether you think if fits or not.>Battlespire is also the worst game in the seriesReally? Worse than the mobile games? Worse than Redguard?>and has almost fuck all to do with the rest of the gamesNot really. Plot wise is linked directly to Arena.
>>747478485They do, there is a reason why the empire bans trade in dwemer artifacts, the empire has a dwemer airship in redguard
>>747478485The Empire tries to exert a monopoly on Dwemer tech for obvious reasons, so it would be hard for the average Dwemerboo to study that shit on his own.>can't be just a taboo thingIt's illegal.
>>747478485that's part of why PT lore has the third empire having airships and that reactor in narsis, there will be more stuff like that eventually
>>747477141I like it. I like the blood lands behind it. Creepypasta material.
>>747478485They probably do, the Empire repurposes a Dwemer airship in Redguard, so it's pretty clear everybody in-universe has a lot of interest on the Dwemer. You don't see it in Oblivion because in that game Bethesda was actively trying to ape LoTR and as Bruce Nesmith himself admits, sidelined everything that was not directly related to the "Martin Septim saves the world from daedra" plotline, nor in Skyrim because they were seemingly going for a weird sort of low fantasy vibe in that game to the point people in-universe don't even believe spriggans exist.
>>747478664>>747478630>>747478801>>747478862Yeah, but you'd agree that it's a rare thing, right, they don't do much with it, I just don't understand how all that tech wasn't swooped by Hlaalu moneygrabbers for example to, like, revolutionize slave labor, kick all those junkies off the fields and replace them with automatons, or at least occupy the ruins with power, hook up and sell electricity from them
>>747478393basically house redoran caused an asteroid to crash over vivec and made levitation impossible
>>747478990>they don't do much with itThe conquered the world with it, so I'd say they did quite a lot.
>>747479053Anon, not everyone is ready for the gravitypill.
>>747478990That reveals a deeper issue within the setting, because Dwemer automata aren't actually that special. They're just metal golems, powered by magic and soul gems. They're not actual real life robots with motherboards. What that means is that basically everybody in the setting is capable of building an automaton or raise a necromantic servant if they are or are willing to hire a wizadd, so how come slavery is still a thing? You could just argue that actual living beings are better at fine work than automata of any kind while also being much cheaper
>>747479195>They're just metal golems, powered by magic and soul gems.Source?
>>747479195You can do this with any fantasy setting. If you think too hard about healing and teleportation magic especially, it fucks up everything
>>747479287They literally drop soul gems when you kill them
>>747479339Not to mention there being monster and bandit hideouts 100ft outside every settlement.
>>747479386What are you talking about?
>>747479563Dwemer automatons. They drop soul gems, clearly there to imply they're powered and animated by said soul gems.
>>747479623>Dwemer automatons. They drop soul gemsAre you sure?>there to imply they're powered and animated by said soul gemsWould this apply for any other creature or is it just the dwemer automata?
>>747479623huh i thought gems are just for control like a cpu but they're powered by something like oil engine cuz they puff out steam, i mean why'd they do that if a gem pumps out electricity on it's own
>>747479858The only other things you loot them from are undead, so yeah
>>747479623>They drop soul gemsNot in Morrowind they don't
>>747480627Shh, let him continue
>>747466559Is it weird if I see rare artifacts and think of their value as 'this will buy me xy training sessions.'?>>747467031What C&E questlines do you suggest? I'm still working with those little guys in Old Ebonheart.>>747477804Anything Arneson touched was more Dying Earth far future than historic fantasy. That man had too much soul for being allowed to do much for TSR.
>>747445340I have never played Tamriel Rebuilt. What makes it good other than the scale? Are the quests well written?
>>747477607According to the UESP the Naga's racial power is Chameleon's Shroud, which just gives chameleon and Detect Animal, so that does not check out. Must be something else
>>747480909>Is it weird if I see rare artifacts and think of their value as 'this will buy me xy training sessions.'?Not at all.In my brain I'm thinking instead of the permanent enchantments I can buy with it.
>>747478990The telvanni are reverse engineering them and it's part of building your stronghold, the hlaalu don't want to piss off the empire and they don't have the mages to figure it out anyway
This series, Seven Fights, is in the library of the college of Firewatch. It's tone and language is wildly out of place in the setting, but it's pretty funny. If you haven't tried the Audiobooks mod you really should. Not having to stop to read makes it so much easier to go through all those books.
>>747471803In the base game, Argonians describe themselves as having "the currents of blood magic running swift through their veins". Of course, nobody knows what the fuck that's supposed to mean since it's never elaborated upon in any Argonian-related source, neither in the Morrowind era or stuff like the novels and ESO, and the only mention of "blood magic" later on in the franchise's history is some vampire shit in ESO completely unrelated to Argonians.Anyway, not even the Project Tamriel people are really sure of what to make of it since Argonia hasn't begun development yet, but one guy proposed to make "blood magic" a mechanic wherein you spend health points to cast spells instead of magicka, i assume for no other reason beyond it being cool. I didn't know they actually implemented it already tho, might be some other mod you installed or whatever
>>747481467>you would explode OUT FROM your BELLY>DIE so that the world would never have to DIE again>Alduin (long, winding sentence in brackets like this is a technical manual)actual rest of the sentence>furiously angry>* censorship in an ancient scroll>what would happen if that happenedsurely this is not content found in the original game? this reads like the worst type of fan fiction written by some teenager, or like a writer pulling a prank by making as many grating mistakes as possible.
>>747481947>surely this is not content found in the original game?Of course not, dumbass. Did you really think this wasn't a mod?
>>747482307you don't get to call others "dumbass" while being obtuse yourself.
>>747476672Based Indian
Some beautiful weaponry.
>>747482783Ebony Scimitar is pure kino
>>747482915That's actually the Indoril Scimitar
>>747482970Oh yeah, you're right the handle is completely differentI'm a fraud.
>>747481947Seven Fights is written by Kirkbridehttps://www.imperial-library.info/content/seven-fights-aldudagga
>>747482783man, all i ever wanted from TES is a simple sanely designed zweihander and they just never give it to you, closest thing would probably be iron claymore from morrowind, i often end up running around with it up to late game, pretty upsetting to have nothing to look forprobably boring i know, but i just want a plain bigass steel cross to stab people with, that's it
>>747483189And this is why Kirkbride should stick to his ideaguy role and leave the writing to the professionals.
>>747453662>it was pretty generic, which is why Shivering Isles was so goodIt really bothers me when people say that, implying that the mushrooms made it look more "alien" and as such more interesting to explore. The problem with Oblivion was the art direction and its implementation insofar as immersion goes (aside from goofy faces and shit voices and voice acting), not to speak of limitations. It was a strange choice to not use fog but instead let the player gaze upon unrendered forests and seemingly untextured grass. I remember climbing atop a mountain once and caught a glimpse of the Imperial City and it look like a bucket. Even leaving that aside, any wooden cabin or generic Imperial fort; Caldera or Pelagiad, they look a hundred times more interesting than any given purple mushroom in Oblivion. I'll argue the same thing for Blackreach, the higher fidelity makes it not look as unwelcoming and unsettling, but at least the art direction is better and it looks somewhat good. I think maybe Skingrad is the only example of Oblivion looking beautiful and interesting. Perhaps Cheydanhall and Leyawin as well. Really any city not named "Imperial City" which was just a bunch of corridors in a circle.
>>747483189it goes on too long to be a prank. this was him trying his best to write something. he was not meant to be a writer.
>>747483365>probably boring i knowNah, what is boring is the artist being unable of coming up with good grounded (yet fantastical) designs for weapons.Fantasy weapons for the most part have to be used by humans or antropomorphs but instead they seem to be designed for glup shitto. It's lazy, boring and it shows the artist ignorance concerning the subject.
Nordboy not so tough after getting a slave bracer put on him.
>>747483365Can I interest you in a Mithril Claymore?
>>747478851>mind the sands, traveler
>>747483189What a retard
>>747481467>>747481947Aldudagga is a kirbride text and its written to feel like it was translated and abridged from rowdy old nordic skalds
>>747483628see, what is that thing, what's with all these colors? only color on my sword should be red from all the blood of the fuckers i stabi remembered another one though, silver sword from skyrim was cool, too thick though and low leveled too
>>747483189Lmfao at all the retards jumping to hate on something for so called "bAd WrItiNg" cos they thought TR devs wrote it and not releasing it's written by the greatest Morrowind writer. Just goes to show you how worthless and schizophrenic all the criticism in these threads actually is.
>>747484006it's just a blue metal bro
>>747452116Can we fucking cool it with moon colonies and time travel and Pelinal is a cyborg and dumb shit like that? In a game set in a dream with multiple types of deities and dreamsleeves and mountings and hermaphrodites raping gods, do we really need flying saucers?
>>747445521moisturized. thriving. in my lane.
>>747464830
>>747483372I always say that he needs to be reined in by boomers who've probably partied at Woodstock once or twice that they're able and patient enough to listen and see the value in Hindu Gnosticism and are hip enough to Star Wars that they implement sand people aesthetics, but without going too far to the point where you have spaceships and cyborgs and moon colonies. I remember when c0da was first announced I was really hype, but I can't remember particularly why.He draws pretty well though.
>>747484250>>747484850faggot
Just realized they updated the location of the silt strider in Almas Thirr. How dare they? I can't play this any more.
>>747484981I've always loved how the statue is just looming off in the distance, glaring at Almas Thir
>>747484850>but without going too far to the point where you have spaceships and cyborgs and moon coloniesI think that those are fine and fit well in TES.>He draws pretty well though.That's a prerequisite for good idea guys. You need to be able to pitch your ideas and drawings make it easier.
>>747481467>>747483189Anyone that's even a little surprised by this should give C0DA a read.
You're already doing the TES equivalent to space travel by going to Oblivion, if anything going to the moons is a tamer version of that
>>747485205>C0DAutter woke fanfiction nonsense.
>>747477141Nice Kenshi village.
>>747484817I always laugh thinking about standing in the middle of a town square eating chunks of dwemer like a freak
>>747485334>You're already doing the TES equivalent to space travel by going to Oblivion>activate oblivion portal = space travelTodd, space travel isn't just a couple loading screens.
>>747485504Yeah, the moons are just planes of Oblivion but right next to NirnIt's your fault if you heard moon colonies and pictured Imperials going there in NASA rockets instead of just magic shit lol
>>747485334what is the escape velocity of the hero of kvatch?
>>747485628No they used giant moths for it
>>747485634we don't know because jump spells were banned by the mage's guild
>>747483365I stuck with the steel claymore for the whole game. It's just a really good looking sword. Luckily you can buff the sword with enchants so it's not completely useless late game.
>>747484963Yeah let's just have respirators in our magic and sword fighting game you fucking tranny>>747485123>I think that those are fine and fit well in TES.yeah well they don't. maybe time travel as not only magic but exceptional chim fuckery, maybe cyborgs in the way that Yagrum is one, but moon colonies in terms of settlements, even on a plane of Oblivion- like thing, are completely silly and inconsistent>That's a prerequisite for good idea guyssurely there are ideas guys who can't draw
>>747485628I was joking about Starfield's loading screens powered space travel, anon.
>>747485792Oblivion's Mage's Guild questline should have been about a general revolt against the Mages Guild for getting rid of tons of useful shit like levitation and teleportation instead of necromancy
>>747485858>REEEEEEEEEEAny real argument?
>>747485805someone should make a mod that lets you use your armorer skill to "level up" a weapon's stats with some specific materials.
>>747485858Respirators are sci-fi to you? Really>are completely silly and inconsistentThere's an entire game set on an Imperial fortress floating in Aetherius though
>>747485993why would I meaningfully argue anything to a tranny
>>747485858We will all be playing moonmod while you seethe
>>747452950I like the fat nerds going >Akhshually!over your post. They forgot that oblivion had you close the same fucking gates just like Skyrim had you fight the same fucking dragons over and over. Oblivion was proto-skyrim with slightly better writing and a comically bad facegen tech implemented to save money and 0 artistic merit. But all this shouldn't be said, because they shat on their own fucking lore with not making the empire a jungle and making the ayleid ruins into reskinned dwemer ruins. I personally was okay with FO3, because if you're going to make a Bethesda fallout it might as well be a spin off. It was dumb and campy and its own thing. But at no point it was a great RPG or a FO sequel. People refused to see that Morrowind was lightning in a bottle and Bethesda would never replicate it. Morrowind is closer to Baldur's Gate and Arx Fatalis than it is to Oblivion in every way that matters. And Skyrim is a joke.
>>747486070not if they don't get some fucking asset devs we won't
Fucking zoomers thinking that fantasy is supposed to be some sort of holy untouchable representation of ye old medieval days when in reality the average 80s fantasy medium had fucking laser guns in them lmao
>>747486167UHMMMMMMM TOLKIEN DIDN'T NEED SPACE SHIPS AND LASERS, CHUDDYWUDDY
>>747486154There are some assets being made, it's still progressing faster than any mod of this kind
>>747486227>TOLKIEN DIDN'T NEED SPACE SHIPSNobody tell him
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>>747486035>Respirators are sci-fi to you? They're not sci-fi and neither is a BMW. Why are you pretending to not understand? Or are you actually dumb?>There's an entire game set on an Imperial fortress floating in Aetherius thoughPowered by electricity? Diesel? Quantum energy? Magic?As for the other seething trannies, play your fanfic mods with laser miniguns and time travelling cyborgs, what do I give a fuck. It's real tes! Hahahahaha
>NOOOOOO BUT ACCORDING TO SKYRIM EVERYBODY IN TES IS A DIRT FARMER WHO HATES MAGIC AND DOESN'T EVEN KNOW FOR SURE THAT SPRIGGANS EXIST
skyrim is canon and your kirkbride fanfic mods aren't ;)
>>747486519>skyrim is canonSource?
>>747486367>Powered by-Irrelevant. It exists. TES is objectively a setting in which magitech is a thing and you're the one trying to push an inaccurate headcanon
I have come to the unfortunate but undeniable conclusion that a great deal of posters here are trans
>>747480937I had a blast with the Narsis mages guild questline once you hit a certain point.
>>747486768Oh sorry, meant Old Ebonheart. Narsis was alright, but felt a little disjointed because its more about solving everyone's individual problems.
>>747450006they should add the island where Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard takes place
HOW DARE YOU PUT C*BORGS IN MORROWIND TODD HOWARD YOU BETRAYED ME I THOUGHT THIS WAS A REALISTIC TRAD FANTASY SERIES
>>747486918>TR creaturekek, why are you posting fan fiction?
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58386is this as broken as it sounds?
>>747486965It's from TRibunal actually
>>747486642>flamethrowers exist in tes>powered by fuel or are they spells being cast?>irrelevant alternatively>trans women exist>are they actual women or abominations?>irrelevantI see now who I argue with. Bye
>>747486918Automatons are fine, it's moon colonies and computers I have a problem with.
>>747486918>dude fallout 4 is so stupid, why was the institute wasting resources on making synthetic gorillas? it would be like if the most powerful wizard in morrowind spent his time making robot dinosau- AAAAAAACK
>>747487184>clockworkIt's supposed to be steampunk inspired fantasy.
>>747487105Ok, so if your point is that colonies in magic space are fine as long as they are powered by magic and not by electricity, then why are you so against moon colonies, which are just the Battlespire but arguably less extreme?
>>747487067Don't tell him about sotha sil
It's over. They made TES sci-fi.
>>747487013>150 feather at 100 skillI don't see how this would break anything.Also, I don't see why this should be a skill.
>>747487415why is that never brought up nowadays I wonder>inb4 inconsistent writingmaybe the mistake then was battlespire which was prior to tes finding its identity :DDD
>>747487573Battlespire was made after PGE1 faggot
>>747487415What's sci-fi about it? It's a magical floating fortress.
>>747486918>>747487184>sotha sil the clockwork god experiments are the same thing as time travelling cyborg Terminator Pelinal >you don't want robots in the game? haha you must hate dwarven ruinsNEVER engage transegendereds in honest discussion, they simply don't operate within the same epistemological and ethical framework. they deny their own nature, of course they will twist whatever you talk about with them
>>747487573Wrong tho, the Battlespire is mentioned in Morrowind and you can find artifacts from the game
>>747487415The battlespire looks like it was built on the skull of a giant dragon
>>747487807>>you don't want robots in the game? haha you must hate dwarven ruinsi mean yeah those things are literally known for having robots in them
>>747487617the one in which House Telvani is mentioned?
>>747487906refer to the attached picture
>>747487415noooo... fuck... todd, emil, somebody help!
>>747487717A magical floating fortress located in a different plane of existence, something that is apparently too sci-fi to TES according to that guyIt's also got metallic consoles with big red buttons on them inside of it
Walking through my beautiful Resdayn and not a single robot in sight. Feels great.
>>747488104>>747488132>you see these metal boxes with a scroll attached to them?>that means we should have star wards blasters ;)can you go play your lightsaber and cyberpunk mods and leave the morrowind thread alone please
All of this is literally just a result of low IQ. They hear about "moon colonies", and, since they are incapable of mentally separating the very concept of going to the moon from the imagery of NASA space shuttles and the like, they go>ooga booga you trynna to add BMWs to muh fantasy setting muhfugga!!!Unable to register the fact that, within the context of TES, going to the moon is actually a less impressive achievement than going to Oblivion or Aetherius, something you do in just about every TES game
TAMRUH
>>747488557It's called suspension of disbelief. If you don't have autism, you will know that certain concepts just doesn't lend themselves well everywhere. There's a time and a place for everything.
>>747488660>>747477647
>>747477526biggest retard ever. you are one of the reasons why RPGs are boring now.
>>747488746There was also sci-fi stuff in redguard
>>747488746Just go play your sci-fi games, then you gigantic faggot.
All of this is literally just a result of low IQ. They hear about "BMW", and, since they are incapable of mentally separating the very concept of driving a BMW from the imagery of diesel engines and the like, they go>ooga booga you trynna to add BMWs to muh fantasy setting muhfugga!!!Unable to register the fact that, within the context of TES, BMW stands for Battlespire Mobile like Whitestrake's and building one is actually a less impressive achievement than building an autonomous steam and magic powered fortress guarded by automatons, which is something you encounter in just about every TES game
>>747489005just kys and play Skyrim or Oblivion
>>747488746Might and Magic did it better. Xeen mogs.
>>747489005Sure, I'll go play Morrowind :)
one side of the argument is citing lore and things from the actual video games and the other is seething about trannies and posting basedjaks
>>747487807>immediately brings up tranniesrepressed homosexuality is surprisingly common in rightoid incelsreally makes you think...
How can I make my game genuinely progress slowly? I tried all types of artificial role-playing restrictions like no cheesing or raiding specific dungeons but it feels like at level 20 or something I'll always end up with the best gear. I want to be forced to use retarded shit like steel armor for half the game.
>>747489160Sounds like Starwind is right up your alley
>>747488686>this setting shouldn't stay true to its own internal logic because....it just doesn't FEEL right, okay?that's a you problem buddy
>>747489425it's almost impossible because of how much morrowind showers you in strong loot
>>747489559>its own internal logicNothing in TES except some lore books ever mention the sci-fi aspects, and they do nothing but take away from the actual games world building, so I'll always say that the games would be better off without them.
>>747483365Chrysamere
>>747484850>(Illegal)>(King of Rape)Fucking kek
Explain how spear chucking dunmer dressed in bug shells defeated a race that had gundams and the best have armor and weapons of their day.
>>747490076You're free to say whatever you want but it won't change reality.
>>747490569magick
>>747490569They didn't.
>>747490569(((Chosen People))) of the Good Daedra > manlet atheists
>>747490858My argument has never been anything other than "I think the sci-fi aspects of the lore are bad"
>>747491381That's not an argument, that's an opinion.
>>747491516Since I've been arguing it with you lot, it certainly is an argument
>>747489242one side of the argument is citing Kirkbride fanfic and calling it lore, and posting images of wizard castles floating calling them spaceships- bending truth like trannies are wont to do. look at this fag:>>747487287>why are you against moon colonies if we make them actually not moon colonies?as though the concept itself as it pertains to TES is not obviously lifted from c0da. they called them planes of oblivion at first, now they call them floating castles.the other side has made good arguments which have been ignored and as such now is relegated to calling truth bending trannies truth bending trannies because meaningful discussion is impossible with them>>747489392>if you clock me you must be a degenerate as well!sure bud
This guy is a retard who has obviously only played Skyrim, and maybe Oblivion. Ignore him and move on with the thread. Trolling outside of /b/ and all of that.
>>747448037seriously? DPS can go anywhere from 5 to 53? hahha who designed this
>>747492321>biggest morrowind fan sees a morrowind weapon for the first time
>>747492148
>>747478413>>747478630>>747478658I agree with this assessment. Dwemer shouldn't have digital computers and all form of abominable intelligence should be purely magical/tonal in nature. The dwemer are less "technologically advanced" and more like a hypothetical, "what if the greeks were able to industrialize off archimedes screws, greek flame throwers, mirror heat rays, Antikythera mechanisms, aeolipiles, optical architecture, etc. etc."I don't know if there's a genre for this, but maybe you could coin it as Hellenic Mechanipunk
a tranny yet again not engaging with the argument? and tattling?! color me shocked
>>747492582>Dwemer shouldn't have digital computersCool, they have analog computers instead.
>>747492772That's basically what an Antikythera mechanism is. Though I don't know dick about computer science, I imagine analogue computers can't get an internet up and running.
>>747492321actually 6 to 98 with the enchantment includedand yes, that's how shit works in the game and why combat looks like a clown fiesta
>>747492582Yeah back in Morrowind, Dwemers were more Steampunk and Tonal obscure bullshit via Wraithguard and the Tools.It's funny because Tonal stuff is kind of similar to Thu'um.
Uriel Septim VII was going to have an iPad. But then Todd had to go and ruin it all by watching Lord of The Rings.
>>747448037>>747492962As good as a two handed sword.
>>747492582What don't you understand? The Talos of Greek mythology would justify Robocop in a game about Greek mythology. So one is made of bronze and the other one of steel, big fucking whoop. Fuck it, Talos is a robot as well. Pelinal is Terminator.The Dwemer have animunculi- I have no idea how you don't see that this translates to robots existing as well circuit boards and cybernetics and so on. The moon colonies? Not lifted from c0da, actually possible in lore. It's basically what Battlespire is, truth be damned
>>747493061something something hippy something something kirkbride something something drugs something something tool something something all matter is condensed vibrations then sound is reality
>>747490147sword's cool but i don't like that gargantuan gem they slapped on the hilt, makes me think it'll start whooshing like a fucking KITT scanner
>>747493061It's not funny as in it's not a coincidence, it's a concept lifted from Logos theology and at its core is similar to the notions of spells i.e. making a sound that shapes reality. Tiber Septim shouted the jungle away similarly to, if you want, God speaking the word into existence (Genesis 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.)Mankar Camoran acquired that power too, and the Dwemer essentially synthesized it.
>>747492772I mean just look at this abominable freak being given an argument and replying so dismissively, then crying about not being honestly engaged with. Laughable. Remember this always! >>747487807
>>747493842I didn't knew that. It make it even better.
>>747493702Worse. Cast When Used.
>we're adding 20 bazillion cultures to every region we're fooking worldbuilding geniuses m8>the cultures in question are just le whacky random hats
>>747494209>replying so dismissivelyI didn't dismiss anything, I do agree that digital computers don't *feel* right for the Dwemer.Analog, though? They fit right in.
>>747486918If kirkbride hadn't bounced before morrowind even launched these things probably wouldn't look nearly as out of place.
>>747494342Yeah it's neat. To be fair, they were mostly preoccupied with building spaceships and robots and colonizing Masser- tonal architecture was just something to do on the day off.
>>747494651I can't wait for you post one image of anything in a dwemer ruin from any tes game that looks even remotely similar to that, even in concept
>>747492524>>747492962>swing sword for half second, barely lifting it >surprised it barely scraped the target you, smug guy who talked about the biggest morrowind fan, do know that the lower end of the damage spectrum is reserved for mashing attacks and has nothing to do with luck, right?
>>747445340> Why didn't they show the explosion from the impact?It is from Morrowind. He missed.
>>747491020They did that when the dwemer were cornered in their last stronghold. They either activated their gundam or get stabbed with Goren Hlaalu's spear.
>>747494651>accused of bending truth>replying to a guy who brought up picrel as something that the dwemer would have been liable to use, referring to analog computers>posts 20th century machinery as though it were the same thingThe funniest thing is that you can clock a tranny even without looking at its shoulders or five o'clock shadow, you can tell by the way it writes
>>747494651That looks more like something that belongs in Sotha Sil
>>747494693Hot take but they should look out of place, given who made themTrainwiz is right in that Sotha Sil should look divorced from the rest of Morrowind because it's just that much higher tech
>>747495995If it was made by Sotha Sil, it would be cleaner looking.
>>747496437A lot of his crap looks pretty messy though.
>>747496574I should have said, shiny looking.
>>747496179The problem is that they look out of place even within the clockwork city and next to the imperfect and sotha sil himself. If they looked like they were dwemer 2.0 then that would be fine but even their color scheme is off.
>>747496179>because it's just that much higher techDo we even have examples of sotha sil's tech? All thats in the clockwork city is fallout 3 style vault doors and ridiculous killing machines.
>You'll go no further until you have your papers What the fuck?
>>747493229>It's basically what Battlespire is,YeahYou have to provide a single argument against that fact beyond>but it don't feel like it tho
>>747497619And the circuitboards and computer systems and the cyborg elf hooked up to a giant mainframe
>>747494639t. hatless peon
>>747494639but that's a single culture
>>747497832A floating wizard tower does not satisfy the definition of spaceship and it's as simple as that
>>747497834>circuitboards>computer systems >cyborg elf>mainframeholy shit what a transsexual
>>747497834>And the circuitboards and computer systems and the cyborg elf hooked up to a giant mainframeDo you have examples?All I remember is star wars style metal plating and some hard drive noises in sotha sil's room. Sotha sil himself is hooked up to a thing but to me that seemed like the crazy way almalexia killed him. Like she ripped his limbs off and then hooked him up to the wires to shock damage him to death. Is he actually supposed to just be stuck there? Why?
>>747497897Repulsive. Ought to be enslaved.
>>747498342Of course not anon. It's a truth-bending tranny.
>>747498342>Is he actually supposed to just be stuck there? Why?Because he's a cyborg strapped into his computer. There's a giant fucking electrical tube going into his back and up into the machinery.All the textures are circuits too.
>>747498342My guy...
>>747498115But it does satisfy the definition of an Imperial settlement built on a "plane of Oblivion-like thing", which is what's being discussed here as stated here >>747485858 and what the moons are in TES lore
>Um I don't remember any of thatThen why the FUCK are you arguing
>>747498342Sotha Sil's design in Morrowind was that of an entirely limbless floating metal creature, he didn't become a masked Dunmer man until ESO. So no, his limbless state in Tribunal is not meant to be Almalexia's doing.
It felt silly seeing a teaser for the High Rock area and it had a normal forest with random floating jellyfish monsters. Feels forced and, funnily enough, unoriginal.I think the idea that all of Tamriel needs to be as 'weird' as Morrowind is both boring and a misunderstanding of the intent in the original game, where Morrowind is specifically supposed to be weird in comparison to the outside world that the player character comes from.
>>747499273He's also a cyborg in ESO.
>>747498867Yeah that looks like he was electrically crucified by almalexia because she's a crazy bitch. If he's supposed to be like that then why would he have a terminal behind himself that he can't operate?>>747499273>Sotha Sil's design in Morrowind was that of an entirely limbless floating metal creatureThat makes more sense but he is clearly a masked dunmer in tribunal.
>>747499339the jellyfish are from shadowkey thoughbeit
>>747498867And apparently, according to TESO, he was gone all along.Also he's rotting.
>>747499512>If he's supposed to be like that then why would he have a terminal behind himself that he can't operate?Do you think you just can't move your arms when you have them as wires?
>>747498936But moons are not "plane of Oblivion-like things", I was merely charitably stating that even if they were, it would make little sense- but they are not. Also,the concept of "moon settlements" and indeed any sort of traveling to moons did not exist prior to Kirkbride's fanfic, which trannies have yet to acknowledge.
>>747485858>maybe cyborgs in the way that Yagrum is oneYagrum isn't a cyborg though. He's clearly sitting in a chair and is just so fat that you can't see his legs.
>>747499512My guy you can see the machine parts hooked up to his legs and his back. Quit being pedantic just to keep the thread going.
>>747499339The floating sea creatures in High Rock are from the spin-off games that came out around as the same time as Morrowind>b-but daggerf-Different parts of High Rock. Also, Daggerfall is unironically lower on the pecking order than the Travels spin-offs, the PTR approach to lore is that their canon begins at Battlespire and ends at the early 2000s spin-offs, everything before and after is just a suggestion they can reject as they please
>>747499628>>747500056A cursory look tells me they only showed up in the Crypt of Hearts. I wouldn't mind them as monsters in dungeons, but interpreting them as wildlife feels too 'copying whatever Morrowind did on autopilot'.
>>747446669kys, mumbai resident.
>>747499968Nta but I always thought he was fused with the spider thing.
>>747452538definitely not gonna happen. they are too out of touch. at best they will do something more like in-between skyrim and oblivion, which also isnt great, but definitely better than skyrim baseline.
>>747500004>quit arguing and accept that he is a cyborgdo you hear yourself? he clearly appears hanged and tortured and you mean to imply that he is in fact fucking CONNECTED TO THE MAINFRAME?
>>747500173It does kind of look like that but he does have enough room for feet in that thing. Also if you couldn't turn yourself into a cyborg why wouldn't you just make yourself not fat?
>>747500004How did almalexia kill him then? He has no wounds on his body.
>>747500439Why are you ignoring the part about the big wires connected to his leg stubs and his back?
>>747500173>>747500456>>747499968All in all he is an old and terribly diseased dwemer who can't walk so he uses the fantasy setting's equivalent of a wheelchair. He is a cyborg. Any fucking questions?
>>747499273My personal belief is that like all gods the Tribunal have control over their physiology to a point that they can change how they look on a whim. Almalexia can be Chimer, Vehk can be either gender, and Sotha Sil can choose how metal or how many limbs he has at any given time.
So this is what the schizo switched over to now?
>>747462723>>747462846very dope fit except for the ultra garish second life looking head mod
>>747500456>Also if you couldn't turn yourself into a cyborg why wouldn't you just make yourself not fat?Well. Corpus?
>>747500649She didn't. She simply found a husk and threw a fit because she wanted to be the one to kill him and he robbed her of that.
>>747500704>He is a cyborgThat implies the dwemer spider legs are physically hooked up to his body which they aren't.
>>747500870Didn't she said that he stayed silent no matter what she did?
>>747500975Yeah, hence the implication that she was talking to a corpse.
>>747499867>But moons are not plane of Oblivion-like thingsThey are. Kirkbride's design doc on TES cosmology (which he wrote while still a Bethesda employee, before you start throwing the fanfiction word around) states that all the planets and moons are planes of existence surrounded by the Void of Oblivion, i.e the Divine Planets and the moons are virtually the same thing as the planes of Oblivion.https://en.uesp.net/wiki/General:Cosmology>indeed any sort of traveling to moons did not exist prior to Kirkbride's fanfic, which trannies have yet to acknowledgeObjectively wrong, as "Space travel" in the form of mananauts and the Sun Birds were mentioned in the PGE3.
>>747500870>She didn't.>Almalexia has appeared in the Clockwork City, and revealed all. Using the dimension traveling powers of the Mazed Band, Almalexia traveled to the Clockwork City to slay Sotha Sil and to portal the Fabricants to Mournhold. She believes the time of the Tribunal is ended, and she alone may usher Morrowind into a new era as the one savior of her people. I fear it is Almalexia who has gone mad, and not Sotha Sil.Maybe play the game sometime.
Why are Morrowind factions so boring and poorly written? They're just chores and errands.
>>747501314Thanks, chatGTP
>>747501430The exact journal entry is chatgpt now?
>>747500670because you were dishonestly trying to make a point only referring to the things I talked about.
>>747478413>And I don't think it fits at all with TES settingso do you just not like morrowind, then? morrowind borders on being sci-fi as well. do you just want generic DnD worlds like daggerfall and oblivion?
>>747501492>journal entryTo you hear yourself?
>>747501529Post a pic of his back.
>>747480937just try it, bro. its easy as shit to install and its by far the most high quality modding project for Morrowind. theres a reason why everyone discusses it constantly on here
>>747501427>>747501430Retard alert.
>>747501672Oh I'm talking to an esl. That explains it.
>>747501529Explain why there are giant wires hooked up to his legs and back.
>>747501195>which he wrote while still a Bethesda employee, before you start throwing the fanfiction word aroundKirkbride wrote a whole lot of things and drew a whole lot of admittedly cool concept art which never made it into the games- which is what makes games canon. You can't >inb4 your way out of being proven wrong. His employment status matters little if his respirators never made it into the game.>>747501195>Objectively wrong, as "Space travel" in the form of mananauts and the Sun BirdsHuh? I was talking about traveling to moons and moon colonies. Why bring that up?
>>747500718why is he choosing to be fat in that pic
>>747501914To electrocute him to death. You can see from the little bits hanging off of his leg stumps that his legs were torn off.
>>747497763why did caius dress up as a roman guard to impede my progress? must have been zooted off khajiit juice here
>>747501817As an esl my self, I feel hurt.
>>747502248good
>>747501914>>747501675I'm not rejected that Sotha Sil is connected to Sotha Sil in a similar way to the way in which Vivec is connected to Vivec, I'm rejecting that he's a cyborg operating his domain through technology and computers. More so I'm rejecting that even if he were, it would justify spaceships. You can ignore this last part if you want to accuse me of moving goalposts, even though I've been saying this from the beginning
>>747499273>Sotha Sil's design in Morrowind was that of an entirely limbless floating metal creatureits crazy to me that you dont understand that this specific image is a diegetic symbolist mythical interpretation of the tribunal. not necessarily how they actually look
>>747502139So Almalexia just has a bunch of knowledge about electrical engineering that she was able to expertly slot a bunch of wires that just so happen to perfectly fit his leg sockets and a random giant wire that slots perfectly into the back of his crown?
ah, I see that trannies are false flagging and posting in my name. par for the course
>>747502475As we all know, Almalexia is the patron Tribune of electrical engineering and machinery.
>>747502475Bro she just yanked a bunch of cables out of the wall and shoved them into his stumps to fry him.If thats not how she killed him then how did she?
I have a complicated question.If my favorite weapons are Eltonbrand and Gravedigger, am I a weeb?
>>747502656Cables that all fit perfectly into little slots on his body?
>>747502112i forget where he posted it, but iirc, MK said something about the depictions he makes of sotha are largely metaphysical and quite varied in shape and form because he is such a mysterious and enigmatic figure, both literally and theologically. sometimes he is even buff as shit.
>>747502345>operating his domain through technology and computersLiterally what even is his domain? Its a bunch of sparking hallways with spinning gears. We don't see any actual example of advanced tech.
>>747502710I'm afraid it's terminal. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, anon.
Sometimes you people are exhaustingly stupid.
>>747502751You expect sotha sil to not be smart enough to have standardized cable sizes? If they weren't put there by almalexia, then why did he rip his own legs off with strands hanging on.
>>747499339>>747499628>>747500056>Morrowind has floating jellyfish>Skyrim has floating whales>High Rock has floating octopusesARE THERE ANY OTHER FLOATING CREATURES I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT?
>>747502814the fact that he is called the clockwork god makes it quite clear that he is, relative to morrowinds level of technological progress, a very technologically advanced guy. he has industrial revolution levels of electrical engineering technology, anon.
>>747502934And yet you're here, arguing with the stupid.What's the next step of your plan, retard?
>>747503024didnt you know? floating stuff = creative fantasy, anon.
>>747502934Sun Tzu say: "By arguing with a fool, you only prove there are two."
>>747502029>His employment status matters little if his respirators never made it into the game.And yet, his ideas on how the TES universe works clearly did.>I was talking about traveling to moons and moon colonies. Why bring that up?Ok, so you admit that a colony in a plane of Oblivion-like thing is canon, and that magic astronauts who went as far as Aetherius in their magic moth & bird-shaped spaceships are canon, but moon colonies are still a step too far in sci-fi?
>>747502345>I'm rejecting that he's a cyborg operating his domain through technology and computers.My man you can literally see his body has metal parts. His pelvis is totally replaced, for one. That's not armor.>>747498867Did you notice his fingernails on the left side of the image? They grew so long that they curled. The guy was so obsessed with the Clockwork City he attached himself with wires to it.And if we want to ignore all of that, he clearly has consoles behind him for interacting with the city as well. We don't have to call those computers if you don't want, but they're clearly at least a set of extremely refined mechanisms to cause elements of the city to do things.>>747502814The fabricant creation machine you have to stop in the city, for one. The fabricants themselves are a blend of mechanical and biological.
>>747503024>Skyrim has floating whalesWe didn't have them in Skyrim. We got got floating mammoths though.
>>747503089>he has industrial revolution levels of electrical engineering technologySo do the dwemer, and their shit doesn't spark everywhere, not to mention that their enemies do more damage.
Shadowkey also had flying rays in High RockYou could feasibly argue it's a conscious motif for northern Tamriel even though i know it isn't
what the fuck is going on with the revision shit im seeing in the replies here? are we playing different games? the sci-fi aspect of morrowind was always a very apparent part of its aesthetic. it was directly inspired by dune. is the retard in the thread one of those guys who believes sci-fi has to only equal star trek or something? sci-fi is a relative term with a huge aesthetic gradient. it doesnt have to look like droids and lightsabers, you know.
>>747503024When you join the Telvanni...you'll float too
>>747503291>The fabricant creation machine you have to stopWell for one you don't have to stop it and two honestly it seems more magic than technological. It's not an assembly line, itls literally a room with a big cable attached to the top of it and a monster just pops out fully made.
>>747503524Schizo-kuns last thing failed so he's trying a new angle.
>>747503524It's steampunk.
>>747503734there are steampunk elements, yes. is that suddenly not sci-fi? there are also philip k dick VALIS-esque sci-fi esotericism at play. what is your point?
>>747503734That's the Skyrim answer but it doesn't really fit with Morrowind.
>>747503871>VALIS-esque sci-fi esotericismThats just magic fantasy shit.
>>747504316can you stop thinking that sci-fi = epic lazors and robots, please?
>>747504424Sorry bro, morrowind is just fantasy + magic steampunk.
>>747504316Please go read the definition of science fiction before sperging out for 4 hours about your opinion on what it's supposed to be.
>>747504558steampunk is sci-fi you stupid fuck
>>747502814>Literally what even is his domain?Literally Sotha Sil you fucking dummy. >We don't see any actual example of advanced tech.Bingo>>747503265>And yet, his ideas on how the TES universe works clearly did.Yes, anon, some of them did. Most of them didn't, like fucking moon colonies.>>747503265>Ok, so you admit that a colony in a plane of Oblivion-like thing is canonI've never admitted that. I guess I can see a bunch of Imperials setting up tents in Oblivion during the crisis, and city-like settlements do exist in Shivering Isles, but I'd hardly call them colonies. >and that magic astronauts who went as far as Aetherius in their magic moth Is it magic or is it astronautics? I wouldn't call Odahviing spacecraft and I wouldn't call Silt Striders airships either.You're doing this thing where you try to convince me that it's fair to refer to magical or otherwise fantastical beings as "spaceships" and ask for me to agree with it, then try and do a rugpull and refer back to Sotha Sil's circuitry to justify said spaceships not being magical but instead sci-fi entities and it's getting tiring.>>747503291>That's not armorYes, again, I'm fine with Sotha Sil being preoccupied with technology, I'm not ok with calling him a cyborg connected to the mainframe. Shouldn't be so hard to grasp.
>>747503524Unironically I think TES sci-fi shares a lot in common with Flash Gordon. Swords and sorcery mixed with steampunk esoteric futurism.
Do you think people live in the clockwork city and is it somewhere you can travel to from Morrowind or is it another realm like Oblivion
>>747504663>I'm not ok with calling him a cyborg connected to the mainframe.Other than the fact that he's actually a cyborg and is actually connected to the city via wires?He's just connected for no particular reason at all to his beloved city?
>>747504663>Literally Sotha Sil you fucking dummy.Which is just a bunch of sparking and flooded hallways. There's nothing to operate. It all continues even after he's dead.
>>747502871I always knew that being a Gravenigger would push me to an earlier grave>>747503602We all float down there.
>>747504702i can see that, i think daggerfall was a little bit there. MK said that during the creation of morrowind he was inspired by the lynch dune movie and a lot of postmodern literature like In Watermelon Sugar by Brautigan
>>747503524Hey tranny samefag gay guy- what you say has been addressed here>>747484850>hip enough to Star Wars that they implement sand people aestheticsNo, Morag Tong masks don't justify lightsabers. You'll note also that the aspects lifted from Star Wars and Dune are not the ones which pertain to space travel, you disingenuous tranny freak.
>>747504767Almalexia implies it's another realm.
>>747504767What, is happening in this picture?
>>747504997He's being congratulated.
>>747504767It's probably a bit of both, with the city proper being some kind of pocket dimension.
>>747504957>Morag Tong masks don't justify lightsabersagain, for the 5th time. sci-fi does not necessarily equal lightsabers. sci-fi is a fucking gradient. say it with me. SCI-FI. IS. A. GRADIENT.
>>747505121Yeah just like your gender.
>>747504767It's canon in the lore that it is.
>>747505121I think its just a sign this retard is actually incredibly underread on sci-fi. His only exposure is the absolute most surface level consumerist version he's seen on afternoon TV reruns of popular movies.I guarantee my reference to Flash Gordon went right over his hydrocephalic head.
>>747503524What thing is the most obviously science fiction from Morrowind?I don't think you understand the term science fiction.
The thing about space travel in the elder scrolls is that it's not even "space" travel. The moons are not actually all that high up and once you get up there it's like pure magicka rather than outer space.
>>747504663>I've never admitted that. Then you're fucking stupid and objectively wrong. The Battlespire has been posted throughout the thread. It's not just a floatinggt island in the sky if that's what you assumed it was, it's in fucking Aetherius.>Is it magic or is it astronautics?Magic. And the moon colonies would also be magic. You seem to be convinced that I'm trying to tell you that motherfucking NASA spaceships exist in TES when I'm fucking not. The point is that in the TES universe, which is completely different from ours on a fundamental level, people travel to the equivalent of extrasolar planets, the planes of Oblivion and Aetherius, all the time, and they do so through portals or physically through magical contraptions that fill the role of spaceships. With all that in mind, how the fuck is going to the moons that big of a deal?
>>747505081Thank you, but mod?
>>747504767>Do you think people live in the clockwork citydepends on your definition of the word "people"
>>747504642>steampunk is sci-fi you stupid fuckSure. If steampunk is sci-fi then let Morrowind be sci-fi as long as we don't integrate sci-fi elements which are not steampunk. Moon colonies are not steampunk, so...You drooling fucking retards don't even know how to form sentences, never mind make a point.>>747505121I guess you didn't understand my point. Morag Tong and many other armor sets along with the whole Morrowind aesthetic were lifted from Star Wars. The barely sci-fi parts of Star Wars. Meaning- those can be used as inspiration, it does not mean that spaceships have to be included. Indeed, they haven't been ;)>>747504847>Other than the fact that he's actually a cyborgHe is not though
>>747505480Technically they're just weirdos that sit outside it banging on drums, not the freaky sentient robots inside
>>747504767>Do you think people live in the clockwork cityNo
>>747504702Why did you post a picture of the the Imperial Battlemage?
>>747504767
>>747505451>it's in fucking Aetherius.Cool. Is Aetherius a plane of Oblivion you dumb motherfucking stupid piece of shit?>And the moon colonies would also be magicI ask you again. The moon colonies, are they lifted from c0da, and are the c0da moon colonies and the travel to them magic or not?
>>747505307yeah he seems to genuinely think sci-fi is a singular visual aesthetic rather than a full blown systematic genre. its apparent since he for some reason makes a distinction between steampunk and sci-fi. he seems to think sci-fi = 20th century space operas.>>747505393literally everything with the dwemer. like, hello? clockwork, steam, tonal architecture. pic related is literally electric. sotha sil being a scientist with an artificial world-in-a-box functioning like an intricate machine. dont even get me started on the whole story of the nerevarine being very much inspired by Dunes story of Paul being a manufactured hero.
>>747503602>>74750491410000 years in paint
>>747505826>the thefug
>>747505989>clockwork, steam, tonal architecture. pic related is literally electricThat shit all runs on magic and soul gems.
>>747505867>Is Aetherius a plane of Oblivion you dumb motherfucking stupid piece of shit?No, it's even fucking farther away you absolute secondary retard, it's the place the sun and the stars, which are set beyond all the planes of Oblivion, lead to. If the Imperials can have a fort there they absolutely can do the same thing on the moons that are right next to them you absolute buffoon.>are they lifted from c0daThey're technically lifted from Kirkbride's plans for the PGE3.>and the travel to them magic or not?Yes, they're magic. What the actual fuck do you expect me to tell you that Kirkbride had them build a fucking rocket?
>>747505867the moon colonies aren't from c0da, they're from PGE2. you travel to them by riding in giant mothshttps://www.imperial-library.info/content/tatterdemalion-lunar-province-secunda
>>747505451Lets not forget that the only reason there's a last Dwemer to talk to is because he was... in the outer planes at the time the Dwemer decided to get unmade.
>>747506316>had them build a fucking rocketWould have been a good ultima 2 reference.
>>747504767It's buried under Sotha's old base in some swamp in southern Morrowind if I remember correctly. The first room in Tribunal suggests it's underground.
>>747506316>NoOh, ok, so we have to guess and fanfic our way into accepting it. Cool.>They're technically lifted from Kirkbride's plans for the PGE3.There we go>Yes, they're magic. What the actual fuck do you expect me to tell you that Kirkbride had them build a fucking rocket?Isn't that what Wonderweir is?>>747506441>The Pocket Guide to the Empire, Second Edition was a Bethesda Forums community project with Michael Kirkbride and members of the Temple Zero Society, but the work was never fully completed>it's not from MK fanfic, it's from this other piece of MK fanficuh-uh
>>747506309>That shit all runs on magic and soul gems.No, it doesn't.
>>747505989>artificial world-in-a-boxDivayth fyr has one sitting on his shelf, thats not special. And all of the shit sotha sil makes runs on divine nonsense since he's literally a god. That like saying the mechs orcs use in 40k are "technology".
>>747507093All of their centurions literally run on soul gems.
>>747507210Source? TES5 is not canon to TES3
>>747507210No, they don't.
>>747507427true. only mk fanfic is.
>>747506048Nice!
>>747507427>>747507439What do you think heats the boiler? Coal? Are you retarded? They're not powered by electricity.
>>747507092>Oh, ok, so we have to guess and fanfic our way into accepting it. Cool.Except we don't. It's pretty straightforward in fact. Aetherius is beyond Oblivion, that's not up to debate.
>>747507661Do you or do you not have a TES3-era source on Dwemer constructs being powered by soul gems?
>>747507715they are cyborgs ;)
>>747445340Maginificent thread.
>>747507838Thats some dr eggman tier shit right there
>>747507715>ignores completely the fact that he has been caught lying, againAre you jewish, perchance?
lol how do people like these even get into TES just stick to game of thrones or some shit
>>747507815It's all there in divine metaphysics.
>>747507989The lie is electricity in dwarven ruins, since there is none.
>>747504663>so you admit that a colony in a plane of Oblivion-like thing is canon>I've never admitted that.>The Battlespire has been posted throughout the thread (...) it's in fucking Aetherius>Is Aetherius a plane of Oblivion(...)?>NoThis has been our conversation so far. You keep moving goalposts and I don't care to engage with that. Aetherius is beyond Oblivion. The means by which things exist in Aetherius are different from the means by which things exist in Nirn, are different from the means by which things exist on moons. You could have a fucking colony in Sovngarde and it wouldn't justify moon colonies you fucking cretin.
>>747508176https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Divine_Metaphysics...No
>>747508590>he can't read dwemer script
>>747508490>and it wouldn't justify moon colonies you fucking cretin.Yes it would you, braindead subhuman.Use your brain for a fucking second. Try to use logic for even a minute. If the Imperial Mananauts and Altmer Sunbirds reached Aetherius, through physical movement, then they obviously reached the fucking moons as well. Or do you reckon that they skipped the moons because they have sci-fi energy around them that makes it so only Star Wars spaceships could ever interact with them?
The name "moon colony" is a misnomer since they aren't even actual moons.
