Bro just outright said it. :)
If Hamaguchi makes it, then I will buy it.
>>747509154turnslopfags btfo
>>747510212no wonder E33 won every award while rebirth got ignored. they'll never learn.
>>747509154Revelation must be selling extremely well. Based, based, BASED.I can hardly wait to see Final Fantasy XVII!
>>747509154wasn't there a huge dropoff in terms of sales going from remake to rebirth? this new one is going to perform even worse too. can these guys not take a hint?
>>747510424It's SE, they haven't "taken the hint" in over 20 years
>>747510369>I can hardly wait to see Final Fantasy XVII!When will it be announced?
>>747509154as long as we never have to suffer garbage like X, all the XIII games, XV and XVI again, i'll take it
>>747509154frfr no skibidi?
>>747510424They think 70+ hours of choreslop makes good games, the fans of Rebirth praise the game for letting you skip 90% of the content. Only the thirstiest fanboys will return for more of that shit.
>>747510212>turnslopfags btfoIt will tb slopper 9/11 if FFXVII resembles the Remake Series (I hope it does).
>>747509154This retard completely failed then.
>>747510424SE listened to the people who said their failure was due to not launching on all platforms because if they listened to anything else they would have to reflect on what they did wrong.
>>747509154I can't wait for worthless slop that no one will buy.
>>747510424There's nothing Squeenix can do that would be a surefire way to restore trust in FF. It'll be too little too late even if they do try their hardest, which they won't because global audience (tm).
FF8 remake in 10 parts lets goooo
>>747510987Don't worry, it will.
>>747509154>HEY! REMEMBER CLOUD?! WOULD YOU PAY MONEY FOR MORE OF THAT?!
FFXIII remake and FFXVII confirmed! Eat my ass E33 fags!
>>747509154>futureOptimistic, are we.
>>747509154Smart. This is some of the best shit I have ever played.
>>747510769>When will FFXVII it be announced?Probably 2028. Release date 2030.
>>747509292fpbpHamaguchi-san is one of the best game creators in the industry.
>>747509154They have a whole ass writing team recreating the character history and interactions across an entirely redone version of the original with the original writer involved too. I wouldn't mind an actual sequel at all, if they figured out how to make an extra chapter or just some Advent Children type bonus narrative, but I wonder if the actors will keep reprising. Seems like Aerith's VA is a bit alienated with the role after she asked people stop spamming Aerith/Tifa 3D porn to her.
>>747514587>Seems like Aerith's VA is a bit alienated with the role after she asked people stop spamming Aerith/Tifa 3D porn to her.
>>747514587Brianna is still very much involved in the role. I mean, she is literally getting paid for it.
>>747514587Brianna will do whatever role she can, and will milk her Aerith role as much as possible. Its all she's got unless she hooks up with a sugar daddy.
>>747509154I hope Persona 6 sells billions and this guy kills himself
>>747517849Calm down, browncel. You can't just wish death upon a developer, because you suck at video games.
>>747509154This would explain why Teruki Endo has apparently been elevated to a senior designer position. His combat system is amazing.
>>747520009Ban EndoOnly CH42 bros know this
>>747509154>Final Fantasy is going to stay goodNice. I didn't care much for FF before Remake and Rebirth. Boomer slop just isn't my thing.
>>747511305Resonance is genuinely an excellent and stellar Final Fantasy. Fantasian is too even though they sacked Sakaguchi. If they just did either of those games on a big budget and they'd be the kings of the genre again. I mean Resonance is already on its way to be a homerun amongst fans. They'd just need marketing to get normalfag casuals. And to get the broader range of casuals as in the past, they'd just need higher level production values. None of this is outside of SE's ability. They just choose not to do it.
>>747511728>in Playstation 5 GamesWe'll see. Either way. Even within the category of Playstation 5 games, Both Wolverine and Gift Cards outranks Revelation by the way.
>>747523978I honestly can't believe pre-orders are still this strong.Also, why do gamers prefer the deluxe version?
>>747524585A depressingly high portion of those pre-orders might unironically be MtG scalpers after the MtG card.
>pure dogshit is the foundation for the future of FFGood to know!
>>747510424Ive preordered the deluxe
>>747524740The regular version also has the exact same MtG card tho.
>>747509154It's complete fucking trash. I finally dropped remake at the third claw minigame on my way to sector 7. It does nothing but waste time to seem like a long game. The dialogue was shit and cringe. The music was worse than the original and sounded like they actively tried to make it that way. All of the additions were cringe wastes of time. If you defend that crap, you deserve the modern trash that square enix puts out now. It's all the same cookie cutter garbage.
>>747510212Enjoy your three action packed enemy encounters every 45 minutes while you squeeze through another tight space and are forced to walk slowly again while listening to the boring ass dualogue.
>>747524893>Ive preordered the deluxeI pre-ordered two Deluxe Editions. One US version and one Euro version. Maybe I should get the Japanese version as well.I usually don't collect vidya, or anything else for that matter, but I make an exception for Final Fantasy. :))))))
>>747509154S-E will collapse and fresh new saplings will take their place.
>>747509154GoodI want big world maps, charming characters, amazing combat, amazing music and just the devs having fun trying stuff
>>747509292fpbp>>747509154This is not a direct confirmation, but Hamaguchi is dragging the battle director around with him to the US, so I doubt anybody is surprised that FFXVII will be an evolution of the Remake Series.
FF was in a downward spiral and FF7 Remake single-handedly revived people's hope for the series. Obviously it is going to be the framework going forward.
>>747525352k
>>747509154The Remake Series is the best selling and most universally acclaimed media that Square Enix created in the past 20+ years. It single-handedly saved Final Fantasy after a hefty downward spiral, so it is kind of obvious that they will continue to tread this path for future FF titles.
whatever flaws the remakes have, they're still better than 16. now that's a direction that, if taken further, would surely end se for good
>>747529576I really like XVI, but there is no denying that the XVII Remake Series is the better RPG with the better combat system and world building.
>>747509154The fact that the only thing keeping SE afloat still and the only sane person left, Yoshi P and Final Fantasy XIV preventing SE from going bankrupt is sad.
>>747531476Cope and seethe.>in before "but where are the Rebirth numbers?">t.jimbo
>>747531863>Cope and seethe>Immediately followed by pre-seething
>>747531863Afro American, XIV is getting a collab with VII. So if anything VII is the one that is desperate.
>world class open world blah blahThose things alone just aren't enough anymore. As an action RPG, it still falls far short of the cutting edge in every regard—character progression, class design, itemization, combat dynamics, trades (like boss fights), animation fluidity, the tactile feel of attacks, and so on. Honestly, the only way to describe it is the work of an out of touch, narcissist with a massive ego. Since when did you guys start acting like the French?
There's a bit of flavor that is almost forgotten about in the FF7-verse: their use of text. Apparently all text is either written in Japanese Kanji, Katana, or in Greek letters. Also, the dates they use is just liek our real world timeline. Probably a hold over from the initial idea of a detective named Cloud in New York City.
>>747531863>where are the Rebirth numbers?VII Remake: nearly 10 millionVII Rebirth: over 6 million
>>747531987The mentally ill are never aware of their own behavior.If they were, they wouldn't be acting that way and therefore would no longer be considered mentally ill
>>747532034>As an action RPG, it still falls far short of the cutting edge in every regard—character progression, class design, itemization, combat dynamics, trades (like boss fights), animation fluidity, the tactile feel of attacks, and so onFF7 remake and rebirth have one of the best combat systems ever made.
>>747532006Why would they put XIV content in a single-player game, browncel?
>>747509292fpbp aerischad
>>747532037>Probably a hold over from the initial idea of a detective named Cloud in New York City.Wut? I never heard about this.
>>747509154I mean 7R is already just using a ton of features we've had over the generations of Final Fantasy to begin with, and both XV and XVI were reviled for being automated and too threadbare respectively. Something even remotely tactical while still trying to get their action fetish in is preferable to whatever the fuck modernization they were trying before.
>>747532578It's not Cloud, the detective concept was more a proto-Vincent. And the New York City mystery concept became Parasite Eve with Aya Brea. There's a lot of weird concepts we know that were going around, like Sephiroth and Aerith being siblings (potentially the root cause of their similar hair bangs), and Yuffie originally being a member of SOLDIER sent to bounty hunt Cloud and Sephiroth.
>>747532865Cool, I have to read up on this.
>>747532578>Wut? I never heard about this.FF7 had a long dev cycle, starting in the Super Nintendo era, and it spun out into several projects, much like how RE4 did. Chrono Trigger, Xenogears, Parasite Eve, all spun out of FF7's development, based on some story element which is why they all overlap so much. Sakaguchi's initial draft was a Detective Bob who was hunting eco-terrorists in 1999. That sounds "crazy", until you realize how NYC massively inspired Midgar. Also: NYC detective, black side kick, hunting around Jenova is basically what Parasite Eve was. PE is based on a novel and movie, but the game is a sorta sequel to it, and lines up way more with the FF7 draft. It's why Eve looks and acts like Jenova, why Aya is a gender swapped CLoud, and she has Barret as her partner. https://retro-replay.com/final-fantasy-vii-detective-joe/https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII_development
>>747533364>Sakaguchi's initial draft was a Detective Bob who was hunting eco-terrorists in 1999. That sounds "crazy", until you realize how NYC massively inspired Midgar. Also: NYC detective, black side kick, hunting around Jenova is basically what Parasite Eve was. PE is based on a novel and movie, but the game is a sorta sequel to it, and lines up way more with the FF7 draft. It's why Eve looks and acts like Jenova, why Aya is a gender swapped CLoud, and she has Barret as her partner.That is honestly pretty cool. hahaThanks for the links.
>>747532315They did for XV though
>>747510424I think more people will play Remake and Rebirth now that they know Revelation is coming in 2027
All they need to do it get a big eceleb like Asmonburg to stream himself playing through Remake and Rebirth and then Revelation and people will like it.
>FFXVI-II set in a post-magic Valisthea>FFXVI Prime: a prequel set during the Magitek WarI don't care what they play like, Squeenix will get my money regardless
>>747534379>They did for XV thoughAnd what exactly was it, Barry?
I think Square Enix might think the reason why Remake and Rebirth did poorly is due to temp snoy exclusivity so they are probably assuming Revelation will do much better day 1 due to coming out on PC and Switch 2 at the same time as PS5.
>>747535187Garuda fight. https://youtu.be/EJnRHYfL4BE?si=orkTnuX5fVB7SPvE
>>747535110I would love to play FFXVI-2 myself, but I have doubts if it will ever happen.
>>747510424I was going to pick up intergrade but apparently it's a sequel not a remake and I'm not going to play some old 90s game for 70 hours.just so I can try a neat looking action game.
I'm not even a pdf file but I find Yuffie very likeable and cute
>>747509154The guy is good
>>747537662Remake probably isn't a sequel. More likely it is just a reimagining.
>>747509154I still cant over how bad the english voice acting is
>>747538658It is great though. The Remake Series has some of the best voice acting Since Dragon Age, Mass Effect and The Witcher.
>remake Final Fantasy 6>whole game for the Verdant World>whole game for the Ruined World>whole game for fishan for Uncle Cid
>>747518330
Whatever. As long as this results in more blender porn.
>>747539392MAI will soon be added to the list.
>>747539694She's got that gross asian puffy-under-eye thing going on.
>>747539859She is physically in Revelation, unlike in Rebirth. I bet she actually looks great in person.
>>747539259If that were actually true, then you would love the game.
>>747509154>dense RPG systems, even bringing back jobs>satisfying action combat>an open, freely explorable world complete with airship travelTell me why this framework is a bad thing for the future of FFSome of the things that Rebirth and Revelation are doing are things that FF fans have been crying and begging Square to do for YEARS.
I'm actually very interested to see how the remake series' seminal ARPG gameplay can contribute to something telling a new story with a new cast, and maybe even a different approach to character building. There'd probably be less for me to get irritated at than there currently is in the VII remakes.
>>747509154It's genuinely sad that they have no idea where to take the franchise with original entries so they just decide to rely on making more FF7
>>747509154Glad he told me so I can finally move to the last stage of acceptance and move on from this dead franchise
I wonder what the offhand Chrono Trigger callback in Revelation will be
>>747541984Wow anon, you totally didn't prove his point at all when you used a tent after every encounter and half your party got btfo at the end of the clip.
>>747509154based i have no issues with the gameplay at all in fact i love how it plays. my issues are with the story, but if they just make big AAA versions of the worlds from other ff games thats enough for me
The TB-simpleton vs. Action-chad civil war will continue after a short ceasefire.
>>747543217>The TB-simpleton vs. Action-chad civil war will continue after a short ceasefire.
>>747540163She is? Chadley built a real body for her?
>>747509154the combat is fuckin sick, idgaf what the chuds have to say. also, tifa's tits and aerith's everything. ur gay if u dont like this game. and im talking 90s 2000s gay, not 2026 gay. like the kid in grade school who liked digimon more than pokemon kinda gay.
>>747543402Yeah. At least somebody apparently printed a body for her.I wish I knew what she looked like, because she isn't in any of the b-roll that Square Enix released.
>>747543470You're clearly a zoomer. "Gay" in the 1990s was used very strictly for homosexuals. Today not so much.
>>747544047you just didn't have any friends who loved you enough to call you a faggot to your face
>>747544047>"Gay" in the 1990s was used very strictly for homosexuals
>>747544415Yeah. Or as an insult.
>>747544493not only u gay, u also fuckin retarded
>>747544951You can barely write English, but I'm honestly surprised you can even read at all, nigger.
>>747545640Tyrone's right, you're being retarded.
>2026>still playing final craptasy
>>747545821Don't hate me because I was actually alive in the 1990s, zoomercel.
>>747524878so no difference from the past two decades
>>747534473that's true. now that it's finished you'll have some amount of people jumping in for the first time. The tail sales might be ok tooI think whatever the new game will be will be much bigger than FF7R 2 and 3 though
>>747509154I mean the combat is really good, dropping it would be a waste, just make NEW games with it
>>747509154It is pretty much a no-brainer at this point. Also, it wouldn't make sense to vastly improve the combat system and general gameplay framework in Revelation, if it were to be abandoned.
>>747534570Nigga people can't play 60 hours long jrpgs back to back.
>>747509154do people really expect FF17 to have a fully realized world map too? Not gonna happen unless they use AI. FF7R is the first and only game to have done this in the past 30 years and it'll remain that way.
Clive's game was just not very good. It couldn't commit to combat because story and the combat became a slot anyway because options sucked. The 7 remake has a better vision for modern ff gameplay in terms of combat systems but it's still shit compared to turn based.
>>747513483I still suspect FF10R being a thing is true
>>747549142>do people really expect FF17 to have a fully realized world map too?Sure. Why not? The scope of FFXVII would certainly be smaller than that of the Remake Series, but they could pull it off in three to four years if they reuse the framework they already developed.
>>747509154>Final Fantasy VII: Remake:: ForeverThe outside world is our enemy, Jimbo. We’re the only friends we’ve got, Jimbo. It’s just BA7RY and Jimbo. BA7RY and Jimbo, and their adventures, Jimbo. BA7RY and Jimbo forever and forever. A hundred years, BA7RY and Jimbo’s things. Me and BA7RY and Jimbo running around, and BA7RY and Jimbo time. All day long, forever. All- a hundred days. BA7RY and Jimbo forever, a hundred times. Over and over, BA7RY and Jimbo Adventures dot com. WWW dot BA7RY and Jimbo dot com WWW BA7RY and Jimbo Adventures. All hundred years. Every minute BA7RY and Jimbo dot com, WWW hundred times BA7RY and Jimbo dot com.
>>747510424>wasn't there a huge dropoff in terms of sales going from remake to rebirth?Yes. So much so that they have never announced sales, despite announcing sales for basically every title prior to Rebirth as well as doing sales updates for many titles after Rebirth's launch.
>>747550209>>747550282All you need is some love in your heart, Jimbo.
>>747509154so ff games are going to be padded t oshit and full of wokeshit from now on?grim
>>747551362What's not to like about endless checklist slop? Do you not feel engaged with this metric?
>>747551415>pokemon snap funbased
>>747551415I'll do this on the weekend when I am recovering from a night out drinking. <3
>>747509154>>747509292>>747510212>>747510335>>747511728>Flawless deep combat >Great characters >Great story >Great art direction >Great OST>Waifus >Good graphics >Lots of content >Memorable moments that stay with you long after the game ends This is a 10/10 game
>>747509154The remakes are the best games SE has made in a long time so this is a smart decision
She won
>>747552304For me, any game with Cloud, Tifa, and Sephiroth gets an automatic 10/10 no matter what it is.
>>747552304>legendary copypasta
>>747510424Yes but that's usually the norm. Not 100% of people who bought THING: 1 go on to buy THING: 2 - THE SEQUEL, and most people who skipped THING: 1 won't randomly buy THING: 2
Fuck, marry, kill
>>747551132>All you need is some love in your heartIndeed.
FF7R sisters... I don't feel so good...
>>747553508This is an easy fix, but you better believe I will listen to everything that my girl MAI has to say, because I'm not gay.
I hope Revelation reveals who Glenn is and why Rufus hates him? No one plays Ever Crisis Game.
>>747509154This hack is all but confirmed making 17 btw
>>747553591She look like a Aerith x Sephiroth daughter
>>747553508Chadley and Mai were easily the worst part of Rebirth. You could have all the content without these two submentals wasting your time every 10 seconds.
>>747553591I genuinely feel sorry for your pathetic attempts to justify your sunk cost fallacyEnjoy your diarrhea slop finale
>>747535187You play the side quests? They all involved mmo tier 'run here, now run there' steps with zero engagement
>>747553710FFXVII won't be turn-based either. Cry about that, little simpleton.
I really wish we simply had FF17, FF18, and FF19, with FF20 being in development already. Instead of this FF7 remake saga.
>>747552372Zack is so fucking lucky
>>747554286FF17 has obviously been in pre-production for years. FF20 won't come out until 2040. lol
>>747554459>Zack*Cloud
>>747552372>Chances of her living are at an all time high after all these recent interviews>Will get to see her parent's videos in Icicle inn this time>Will get sexy FITS outfits>Will win the Cloudbowl againThings are looking up
What was the first game to popularize endless, unexciting menial tasks in a single player offline game? And why did Hamaguchi decide it was a good idea to shove that into Final Fantasy? And then when people said they didn't like that part, why did he double down and say there will be even more of it in Revelation?
>>747553657Well Chadley is technically Sephiroth's brother since Hojo is his "dad," so that could arguably make MAI Sephiroth's sisterHell we don't really know how organic Chadley is, Hojo could have actually used his or Sephiroth's DNA to make him
>>747554918Oblivion? Skyrim? Kotor? Witcher 3? Breath of the Wild? ...?Have you never played a video game before or something?
Just give me another ffx. Keep it simple and focus on good characters and story
>>747555082Calm down, lil bro. Take a step back. Pause. Breathe. Relax. I asked what the first game to popularize choreslop was. You just listed multiple "open world" meme games. And you didn't even attempt to answer the other questions.
>>747555025I hope Hojo still has an inferiority complex because Sephiroth doesn't respect him, but rather Professor Gast.
>>747554918He said it would be "better" in Rev, but to me so far it seems like by "better" he really meant "more" and "some of the rewards of said content are more appropriate for the type of content you do" (e.g., battle content rewards materia, fetching animals n shit gives you chocobo shit). Which... isn't much better. Also just read that they removed the sub deep sea sections. Fucking tragic.
>>747555204A lot of games would fall into that category, Jimbo. Even FF7 OG.
We know that Sephiroth's father is Hojo. For Angeal, it's Hollander. Genesis father must be Professor Gast
>>747555449no one cares
>>747555319>A lot of games would fall into that category, Jimbo. Even FF7 OG.There's a lot to unpack here. Are you ragebaiting me? Are you trolling? There's no way you're real. So first off, I'm not Jimbo. Second, yes, a lot of games would fall into the category of choreslop. That's not the question I asked. The question I asked is what is the first game to popularize choreslop. I also asked some other questions, like why did Hamaguchi think it was a good idea to turn Final Fantasy VII into choreslop? but you haven't tried to answer that. You just keep misunderstanding the first question while going schizo about it. And finally, no, the original FFVII is not choreslop.
>>747555541I'll respond to you since that guy is a fag. I guess I'd say the Assassins Creed games popularized them in the way they are now. Categorical, repetitive, checklist content. I don't remember if they existed in AC1 but they definitely did in 2. Ubisoft has used that formula for every single fucking game since, and basically all open world games have followed. Even good open world games that have otherwise good side quests and unique content scattered about have them just for trophy hunters and people like the menial tasks. It's an easy way to get a lifeless golem normalfag to spend 50 more hours playing your game I suppose
>>747555541Every open world game has "chore slop" of some kind, Jimbo. If you don't like it, then play some linear hallway simulator or something.That said, we all know that you're just being disingenuous and trying to cause ruckus, as per usual. You simply can't help yourself, because you are a narrow-minded TB simpelton and autistic VII OG purist.
>>747555781>Ubisoft has used that formula for every single fucking game since, and basically all open world games have followed.Ahhh, I see. So the term "Ubisoft towers" really is an apt name then. I never played Assassin's Creed because I thought it looked boring, so I didn't know. Thank you for being a real human being. >>747555915I am still not Jimbo, but you must have a very long and storied history of being angry at him. I wonder if he knows about this. Not only is everything you said wrong, but you never even tried to answer my question, you just kept calling me Jimbo, and now you're telling me a bunch of things about myself that I never said. I promise I never say this, this is like the second time in my 20 years of 4chan I've ever said this, but you genuinely and seriously need to take your meds.
>>747556048>So the term "Ubisoft towers" really is an apt name then.Yes it literally is. You would climb POIs and use your assassin/eagle/whatever vision to scope out the landscape for pretty panoramas/rotating shots then you'd get all the new checklist content for an area added to your map then dive off into a hay pile. Might not've worked this way at first but it is pretty apt when people say FF7Rebirth has "ubisoft towers" basically
>>747556048Nice wall of text, Jimbo. U mad?
>>747555025Eh, not really. Because Chadley (and MAI) are androids.
So, will Zack and Aerith team up in Revelation?
>>747556372>wall of textYou've established that you can't read, all you know how to do is melt down about some Jimbo guy.
