We fucking won
ban blizzfaggots
>Skyborneuh why not just High Elves
>>747512476What would Horde get then?
>vanilla>shared race
>>747511336>nu-grafics>blizz hq (that they are now renting out) still in the heart of fag central, so we're still doing the body type a/b schtick
>>747512641Ogres or Goblins
>>747512641vulpera
>>747511336>blue belfs on alliance because alliance has to have all the pretty racesThis is so fucking gay
we actually losted bigly
>>747511336>wotlk talents>OC quests written by trannies>new zones with nothing to offer that will be outleveled in 2 hours>same for the new dungeonsdead in a year
>>747511336>No you can't have High Elves there are only like a thousand of them left>But you can have these even more exclusive minorities that we scraped off the back of the RPG book
>>747512923>blueThey aren't racially homogenous, they have human skin colors and africanized skin colors.
>>747512923Yes? The horde are the villains of the story, so they should be ugly. You were only given Blood Elves to begin with because NOBODY wanted to play the shitty red spikes evil faction.And ever since Belves were added all the horde became was a tranny magnet
>>747511336>"Classic" +>same disgusting R*tail interfaceFUCK YOU!!
>>747512641blood elves. Who cares if it's doing TBC again. Don't fucking character assassinate kaelthas this timeogres or goblins would be DOA
body type 2 sisters we're so BACKwe're going home!
Give me one reason to play this over octowow
>>747512641Kinotaurs
>Classic-No thanks, the blue elves look really out of place. Very faggy
>>747511336i love how they have to add an elf race to horde, because everyone wants to play horde, but no one ACTUALLY wants to play horde, because horde is ugly
>>747512825>so we're still doing the body type a/b schtickM$ mandates it, even if they wanted to change it back (they don't), M$ wouldn't allow them to do that.
>>747513370A lot of that is due to how shitty the customization options are. I'd gladly play any horde race if it meant I could customize them in a way where Im not guaranteed to look the exact same as every other orc regardless of hair, skin, and face
>>747513370fem undead is kinda cute if you wear robes and one of the defias mask recolors
>>747511336Any moron could intuitively tell that this race does not fit Classic. It's got retail style all over it. They should have delayed new races if they could only do one now and didn't want to give Ally high elves without giving Horde anything.
>>747513090The alliance wasn't any more good, they just hid their mass extermination campaigns with shit like putting all orcs in concentration camps, making them infertile and waiting for the whole population to die out on their own.
>>747511336it's a complete and utter flop sorry shill
why is everything so gay and retarded now
>>747512476Because theyre fucking retarded thats why.
>>747513041>They aren't racially homogenous, they have human skin colors and africanized skin colors.So they're just blood elves with a blue skin color option, gotcha.Fucking terminally creatively bankrupt, I didn't have a single ounce of hope and I still feel backstabbed.
>>747513589So what should they have done with the alien warmonging retards whose one purpose in life is destroying everything everywhere?
>>747511336>looks like absolute trash like literally the lowest blizz has ever sunk>day before ootrhard pass
>>747511336RETAIL MINUS AHAHAHHAH30 HECKIN DOLLARSFOR PSERVERS CONTENT
>>747513589After said orcs invaded Azeroth while being high on demon blood. Hmmmm....
>>747512641blood elves
>>747513767I mean, I'm not saying they shouldn't have done that, the problem is that you're portaying the horde as le ebil pipul when the alliance was as evil as them, they just used more complex methods to do mass exterminations.
>expected classic+ to be boring shit that doesn't understand the spirit of classic and would just do something that is in no way classic, but otherwise it's just be meh at worst>it's actually aggressively shit to the point it's laughablenever underestimate blizzard
>>747513901>If you retaliate you're just as evil!Neck yourself retard.
>>747512641Night Elves
>>747511336so what exactly did they promise for this version? did they actually admit & commit to not making the same mistakes they did in retail? have they promised to start producing brand new expansions? have they agreed to be more open to the community?
>>747513589>like putting all orcs in concentration campsWhen did that happen? After the rapist evil demonic Orcs invaded Azeroth, tried to genocide the Humans, Dwarves and High Elves, destroyed Stormwind and part of Quel'thalas and Gul'dan tried to summon the demons to the world?You guys think Charlie Kirk deserved to be shot for being mean in debates but Orcs shouldn't have been put in slave camps after RAIDING AN ENTIRE DIFFERENT WORLD TO KILL ALL THE PEOPLE THERE?
>>747513370>>747513534unironically all they would need to do is make more than one young face for orcs/trolls/undeadelves on horde is such an overcorrection to a minor issue
>>747513901Man, we sure are evil for putting criminals in jail. Murderers are people too, just let them do their thing.
funny. doesn't feel like winning.
Could have just added high elves for alliance and blood elves for horde but they just had to add another elf recoloring
>>747511336>ELF of ELFcraft featuring ELF but BLUE and ELFES warcraft 4: ELVES & ELVES that will be 30 dollars for more ELF blood ELF but BLUEmy fucking god. they CANT help themselves.
>>747512641Ogres, obviously. Only gay twink think ogres are a bad idea because they want to play a pretty race, those people should just go play alliance and leave horde chads alone.
>>747513969We asked for this Retail andy :)
Classic again? You WoW players are a weird bunch
>>747511336>another fake elf race pulled out of nowhere when there already are tons of requested races to addits so retail coded its insane.
>>747511336wish I could call women body 2 IRL
wow players are the most humiliated fan base on the planet
>>747511336This looks like shit lmaoWhat's the point of playing something like old WoW but with garbage added by modern Blizzard
My only hope for this shitshow is that it doesn't destroy my current raiding guild in TBC. I just wanna finish up the expansion.
>>747511336It doesn't look bad overall but some OC retail like allied race doesn't belong in Classic.High Elf, Naga, Goblin or Ogre is the way to go. I don't want OC lore added to Vanilla, it defeats the point of Classic+Barrow Deeps is a good sign for a new raid but if they start just making shit up instead of using Grim Batol or Uldum it will be a shame.
>>747512641ogres, you faggot. like we've been asking for since 200 and fucking 5.
>>747514171>Man surely rounding every jew on earth, putting them in concentration camps and amputation their balls and womb so they just die out over time is just the right thing to do>Every jew is confirmed a criminal by crime of being born a jew!!!>Every man should have their right to innocence stripped away because a 0.00001% of them might beat their wife or rape a bystander womanWhat did anon mean by this?
When will things finally improve?
that glide racial will make this race absolute meta on hc servers
>>747514529Try again without moving the goalpost to a galaxy far far away.
>>747514368Yeah and a new OC island. I was hoping they would copy Turtle/Epoch and just focus on 2004 era lore and finishing off the cut content.
>>747514509Why would a woman play an ogre? the new race needs to appeal to everybody, chud
>>747514391you can. very entertaining.
>>747514653Every girl I’ve dated that I’ve introduced to wow has started as either a worgen female or Tauren female I did fuck a girl who played male orc warrior she was awesome
the addition of blood elves in tbc ruined this fucking game by opening the floodgates for waifufags and literal homosexual fucking sissy asians. we can NEVER have nice things. they just do not fucking understand. maybe i am just in the minority but i dont understand why eating so much literal sloppy mumbai poop is just acceptable to the nu-blizzcuck fan.
They could have kept the classic icons and just replaced the text. Trannies can be from Venus I'm willing to compromise on that.
>>747511336>$30 p2w race
Neutral gobbos would've made more sense.
>>747514485It looks absolutely horrible lmao but I guess they’re trying to go for the 13 year old audience now and they like those graphics because they grew up on mobile games
>>747514865
seems that no one at blizzard or anywhere else seems to have noticed that assassination is the spec all about finishing moves and making combo poitns as efficient as possible, they put the finishing move boost ability in combat and gave assassination gay mutilate again.
>>747514529You really went and compared orcs to jews?
>>747511336>its just dracythyr visage form with the faggot scales removed(which was already just a barely altered blood elf model)Wow theyre not even phoning it in anymore huh
>>747512968>>OC quests written by tranniesYou mean written by AI and possibly lightly touched up by trannies
Can someone explain why people are excited about a game from 2004 this looks like shit >>747511336
The two main things that kill WoW are:>bots>meta-slavesWill either of these actually be fixed? If not, it doesn't matter how many new quests or items you add. The game will be dead within a month at best, just like every other Classic relaunch.
>>747512476Have you heard of the high elves?
why didn't they just add normal high elves and goblins. a random OC race is the opposite of what people want from classic+
>>747515327you forgot nostalgiafagsalways looking backwards
>>747515327>play the bots and meta-slaves game>refuse to bot or be a meta-slave>complainthat's you
They took retail and sprinkled it into classic, fuckin LEL
>>747515406>a random OC race is the opposite of what people want from classic+it's truly bizarre
>make retail wow with a hard cap at 60>sell it to classic retards marketed as classic+>too embarrassed to admit they were tricked>have to buy it and play it to save face>piggies line up to buy the deluxe collector's edition with a side of chili cheese fries and a large dr pepper + tip>there are no alternatives coming>your choices are retail or retail 2grim
>>747514865Blizz wanted to expand the game to asian markets but asian players refuse to play ugly races. If WoW was delivered as it was then literally nobody, and I fucking mean it, nobody would play horde on asian servers.
>>747514529>>Man surely rounding every jew on earth, putting them in concentration camps and amputation their balls and womb so they just die out over time is just the right thing to do>>Every jew is confirmed a criminal by crime of being born a jew!!!wtf i love the alliance now
>>747511336these fags are the only thing I disliked about the announcement. like, why?
>>747511336It seemed so obvious to go with Ogres or something to show good faith and appease everyone out of the gate. But I guess the idea of selling another variant of elf was just too tempting
I don’t think this black lady likes Diablo at all
>>747515320>Can someone explain why people are excited about a game from 2004 this looks like shitAutism. Autistic people struggle to let things go and can't accept that the "magic" they remember came from being young, not from the game itself. In reality, the game was always mediocre
>>747511336gayyyyy
Someone please fucking stop me, i just reactivated my bnet account i havnt touched since the end of legion, my mouse is hovering over new wow, i cant do this again, not another 15 years, not again
wowsloppers are a blight. you've spent 22 years dedicated to this shitty game
>>747515761Kill yourself
>>747515692no it wasn't, stop rewriting history to fit your own views, it's like people saying friends sucked or the sopranos was boringwow was revolutionary when it came outI do agree it's a dead corpse and they're probably better off letting go
>>747513370I play undead
Gonna mow the lawn sit back crack open a bear and log in
>>747511336
>>747511336Why can't body type 2s take their tops off?
>>747515761Do what >>747515801That guy said.
>>747511336>dungeons worse than epochs>texturing worse than custom servers>we wontheres no soul left and its only purpose is to milk you dry forever
>>747515761You already resubbed like a fucking retard, go play it for 20 minutes so you can be reminded why you quit in the first place, uninstall and ask Blizzard for a refund.
>>747511336>we want the retail audience
>>747515761Get some taste and stop feeding on nostalgiaOr >>747515801
>>747515801>>747515880>>747515931I cant do that, iv got a wife and three kids now, im senior vp at the plant, cant unalive myself>>747515904havnt subbed yet! just installed the bnet app
>>747511336>nobody likes Gobbos so fuckemKEK
>>747513797Not even pserver content. Pservers had a new race for both factions that were pulled from the lore.Literally retail minus. This is a seasonal retail server.
>>747516010>havnt subbed yet! just installed the bnet appThen don't fuckin touch it, it's not worth the time.
>>747515692nah, the game was pretty good but it's been played and solved to deathnu-blizzard is run by completely incompetent women and estrogenized californian men that do not hold a candle to the great men who built the foundation from absolutely nothingthey were never going to make a faithful new version of the old game without injecting it with modern audience bullshit>>747515761just play it already you have absolutely dogshit taste and no impulse control, your life serves zero purpose so it doesn't matter what you dojust get hooked up to the maze again you worthless little faggot
>>747511336The bluesky elves are so fucking stupid it's actually putting me off relapsing into WoW. They're so out of place. It's like if your friend was pitching a D&D campaign to you and built up this amazing world and then at the last second added "Oh and there will be whimsical flamboyant anime elves everywhere to accompany you"
>>747515458>bots ruin the economy>metaslaves ruin the social aspect>two major parts of what makes an MMO what it isMy complaint is valid, and I'm not playing this junk no matter how desperately they try to repackage it.
>>747515567because they are literally just blue blood elvesthe model is imported from retail
>>747515458Except WoW was never a bots and meta-slave game to begin with. Some of us played the game before 2010 and remember how Blizzard cracked down on bots so hard that chinese gold sellers forced convicts to play the game for reduced sentences. This is not a hyperboly or a joke, that shit actually happened. Meta-gaming was contained to one forum called elitistjerks.com where running sims and spreadsheet was something only a ultra nerd would do. The proto-degens had enough self-awareness to name their corner of the internet accordingly.
>>747516010Fucking get off 4chan you god damn family man you will never get those glory days back focus on the future and your fucking kids.
>>747515801>>747515880>>747515931>>747516102
>>747511336What is a Skyborne and why does it sound like an AI generated race?
>>747511336>Body 2wrong, we lost
>>747516137it's a loot treadmill game, there's never not going to be a meta. horizontal progression games are the only ones you'll get off meta things
>>747516104>"Oh and there will be whimsical flamboyant anime elves everywhere to accompany you"
>>747516193I don't think people realize how much fucking money there was in gold farming back when the game came out. I made BANK as a teen.
>>747515525things will be DIFFERENT this time
>>747516104^ This. The entire forever game is basically ruined for me by them adding the retail bastion elves, what a fucking clown show. I'm completely disappointed.
>>747516102wow was never good. it was accessible, that doesn't mean good
>>747516104>bluesky elveslumaoI hadn't thought about it that way. They really, REALLY can't help themselves huh?
tf is this shit
>>747515525New wow is free with sub, they are only charging for new race
>>747514529>>747515240I really dunno if that was the intent. Was it just a slip up? Maybe? We're talking about demon powered alien monsters who tried to destroy the planet. The humans put them in concentration camps as a compromise because half of the survivors wanted them dead, while the other half said it was too inhumane.Anon immediately jumping to "OH SO YOU THINK IT'S OKAY THIS WAS DONE TO JEWS, HUH?" when we were talking about orcs reminds me of that post of a jew kvetching how tyranids in 40k are a stand-in for jews... somehow.
>>747516389insane twinking potential
>>747515761Don't worry. You'll see gold selling spam on trade channels and mage/rogues zone in/out from instances. The disgust should make you cancel your sub and uninstall the launcher.
>>747511669About that...
>>747513370That was my first thought.
>>747516389How do you get that talent if talents don't start at 10
>>747516414>free if you give them moneyyou are literally their target audience
>>747511336>it's just blue blood elves>they gave it to both factionshow absolutely fucking lazy can you get?
this looks like retail minus
WoW forever is pretty cringe name. Have fun explaining you're not actually going to play wow for the rest of your life.
>>747516506legacy talents. theres a whole tree that gives account-wide progression and you get talent points for it from achievements like leveling characters to max
>>747516506it's definitely designed to be used with alts once you get it on your main
>>747513090Everyone brings up Theramore, but forgets that Jaina was constantly fielding and support Alliance while claiming neutrality, shit earned that nuke. Andorhal was always a Forsaken town.
>>747516137All I'm saying is botters and meta-slaves are having a party of their own whether you approve or not. It's just a different game. You shouldn't knock it until you try it. Btw no top player is natty.
>>747516527can still buy subs with tokens, one hour or less of playing wow(clicking on AH mods) = free wow +stuff. havnt payed for wow in 13 years
>>747511336>OC donut steel tranny elf raceyou just can't make this shit up. these animals just CANNOT help themselves
>>747516387surely someone else has made that joke already
>>747514485there is no point. pretty much like SOD
>>747516256>it's a loot treadmill game, there's never not going to be a meta. horizontal progression games are the only ones you'll get off meta thingsThis game is 20 years old and they still haven't figured out a solution to this? Judging by how they handle bots, I'm guessing it's more down to laziness and incompetence than the problem actually being impossible to solve.
>hd models and animations>transmog>beta/ptr>paid race addition>MTX>add-ons>will probably have bots and RMT tooMore like Retail- It's honestly impossible to recapture vanilla WoW again, no matter how hard Blizzard tries. They're unwilling to make the amputations needed to accomplish that, and it would still be borderline impossible if they did due to how society/the internet has changed the world.
Haven't played WoW since wotlk, how many fucking versions do they have running at the same time now?
>>747516750As many as people are willing to throw their money at
Who the fuck thinks this looks good
>>747516750four? i think? retail, classic, season of something, and now this
>>747516730The problem was solved in vanilla though. Loot treadmill only started after. Horizontal progression was done with stuff like resistance gear.
>>747516667>it's totally free bro I just have to do boring clicking chores to earn less than minimum wage in most states to play this reheated leftovers version of wowlike i said, you are the target audience
>>747516736u can turn the hd and transmog off nigga
>>747512476>erm because it implies they are better than other elves and that's racist
>>747516730it would take a full redesign of how the core of the game functions.
>>747516861I want to be mad.
>>747516856>'work' for one hour>get wow for a month>'work' some more and get any item or game in the shop for freeyour math skills are outstanding, go back to the corner and finish eating your glue
>>747516820Someone in upper management wouldn't greenlight the project unless some form of horrific dogshit from retail made it into the game>Yes, okay, fine, you can have your skygod OC race
>>747516736>>hd models and animationsjust models and its a toggle, they have the hd models using sd animations, sky elves have no sd model though
>>747511336Nah I'm too salty.They nuked all my private servers and have day one DLC planned.I can't get hyped for WoW anymore. I just can't.
>>747512641It's classic so there aren't Blood Elves, therefore the High Elves could just be available to both factions like this deviantart shit is. But if it were going to be a balancing-out situation where horde would have Blood elves and alliance gets the substitute, then horde would get an existing alliance race. Logically it would be Night Elves, which they could explain as being highborne or some other edgy burning legion rejects.
>>747516820Wow, this is just like the World Of Warcraft Vanilla™ I Grew Up With.They're Really Putting The WAR back in Warcraft.
>>747516592The name is poor since It could be funny if in 3-4 years they end content releases but try to justify it being "Forever" with fresh server releases or something.
>>747511336I'm so glad this turned out to be dogshit straight outta retoilet so I'm not even tempted to resub. thank you blizzard
>seasonal battle passBlizzard investors... we won!
>>747514529>>747513901Man, you're genuinely insane, holy shit. Please don't shoot up a school.
>>747514865This is the perfect summary, this pic right here
>>747516861Ok cool that's like the least important of all of those complaints retard
>>747516994>go back to the corner and finish eating your gluei think you're too stupid to understand what that anon was telling youyou play WoW in 2026 man, I don't think you should be throwing stones at anyone.
pay up piggy
has any streamer shown the talents of the druid?
>>747516820This screams woke leftist
>>747516861Can I turn off the blue elves?
>>747516610>but forgets that Jaina was constantly fielding and support AllianceHow so?Dalaran was a neutral city yet Blood Elves used it to help Garrosh steal artifacts.Theramore wasn't used so the Alliance could invade the Horde or whatever.
>>747516436That was the funniest shit ever.It's on the same level as AMA of a Pornhub employee who cried "oi vey" when asked why there was so much stepbro porn.
>>747513378Ms would, but MS WANTS BLIZZARD DEAD SO EVERYONE IS HAPPY.And i hope asha nukes that shit soon.
>>747517043I wonder how many centuries of battlepass would take to pay for the acquisition.
why not just make WoW 2 and fix all the problems with retail WoW instead of continuing to milk the same game from 2004?
>>747512476>>747512476Because Blizzard can't charge $30 for them. Skyborne a (((retail))) coded so they can charge money for them and the paypigs will buy.
>>747512641I may sound crazy on this one but hear me out.High elves, but with GREEN eyes!?
this is like the low effort version of cataclysm
>>747512641Ogres, goblins, nagas... blizzard is just creatively bankrupt
>>747516820mixing blood elves with troll aesthetics was a fucking mistake. just make them white skinned and it fixes 90% of the retardedness
>>747517205They don't have the talent to make a WoW2. It would be an absolutely catastrophic failure
>>747511336>n-no these aren't just reskinned blood elves>they're bluue elves, they're completely different!
>>747511336Wait I just assumed blue elves were a retail thing. They're classic?
These are all private server ideas. The trailer looks exactly like a private server trailer
>>747511336This wouldn't have been so bad if they'd updated the models a bit and along with giving the female models a reworked version of the old Sexy belf model Sylvanas and Alexstrasza uses.
>>747516736It's just retail adjacent.People wanted a faithful continuation/sequel to classic, but instead they were arguably given an even more poisoned baseline in this forever shit with its special snowflake deviantart OC elves. At least it took retail WoW like a decade or more to succumb to that kind of deviantart garbage. Here, it's right there from the get go.
you think you do but you dont
>Wrath of the Lich King talentsNope, no, no way. A few years ago I played classic with that shit and it was awful. Paladins with unbreakable mob aggro is piss baby easy mode that should only be an Alliance thing. Paladin super DPS with the justice style or whatever that shit is called, FUCK THAT. Every fucking party I was in had at least 2 dps paladins. Holy Paladins healing better than Priest? I WILL NOT PLAY YOUR GAMESome of the WotLK changes were good like with Hunter, and I think Warlock got some good shit, but all in all, hell no. It's a pass for me.
>>747517332>These are all private server ideas. The trailer looks exactly like a private server trailerif that was the case then it wouldn't look this terrible
>>747517341it really be like dat
>>747514653They would tho
are the servers using phasing?
>>747511336What did you win?
>>747514529Well they're a bunch of alien niggers who drank some demon juice so I guess we should give them free social security and shit
>>747513589It's crazy that the Alliance did that for absolutely no reason at all
so uh is it takin a lot from the seasonal thing they tried back then and keep jank in or what?im worried it will just get meta chinese gold grinded gkp runs again by neckbeards
But we already had blue elves...
>>747517291I'm shocked they unironically put 2030 for that Starcraft game. That's insane to me.
>>747515882>Posts soul???
>>747517205because they fired all the talented people and a company of wine aunts and fags isn't going to make something from scratch that is even close to what people expect from a wow sequel
>>747513370Tauren are mostly fine though they'd have benefited from looking more bull than cow, Undead are good across the board, they've got that distinctive profile with the jutting spine, their more generic faces aren't even ugly, and there's options to lean into the decrepit Daniel Fortesque lookThe problem is then you've got orcs and trolls together, who really are just these hunchback goblinoids without anything going for them. They don't look cool, and they're worse at being deliberately dysgenic than undead
>>747516861>look just ignore it okay ignore the stinking pile of shit just like act like it isn't thereThis is how you know it's retailtroons shilling this slop. They say the same for their tranny characters.
>>747517205It's easier and cheaper to sell you the same game multiple times over
>>747516736>no matter how hard Blizzard triesNigga they didn't even bother to try. They just did the same shit they do on retail without really changing anything in how they operate as a company/dev studio.
>beta almost 2 months before it comes out>roadmap is raids raids raids>rmt+botting still not going to be bannedinstant failure
>>747514529>You want to round up these genocidal monsters, do you? These monsters who sacrifice children to their demonic gods? These blood drinking, flesh eating invaders?>So you hate Jews!You know what, fine, I'm an anti-semiteI wasn't but you guys talked me into it
>>747517594>>>747513370Gaming... Beyond The Reset(tm)
Why didn’t they take any of the fun gameplay changes from Ascension/Turtle?!Why does it feel so fucking lazy.
>>747517446Big talk about community but zero mention of CRZ mechanics. Relationships mean pretty much nothing if everyone is constantly bouncing between realms.
>>747514529Honestly comparing jews to orcs is giving jews too much credit
>>747517323This was exactly my first thought on seeing that too
>>747517741I'm gonna forty one fucking years old in 2030! Might as well be dead.At the rate the world is going I'm sure I will be.
>Alliance get Firbolgs to introduce some diversity to the Alliance>Horde get High Elves because blonde pretty people are evil coded so they go to the evil factionThere, I fixed Wow Classic Plus. Send me breast milk.
>>747517686>rmt+botting still not going to be bannedthey're likely going to start selling wow tokens. that seems to be their "solution" to the botting problem
>>747517343Bro, paladin being overpowered at Wrath launch was a balance problem, their rework otherwise was amazing once the numbers got nerfed.
Being a WoW fan has to be a humiliation ritual at this point.
>>747517773>Why does it feel so fucking lazy.because it is? it's a cashgrabenjoy your $30 new RGB swapped elves and your $60 beta to play the same game you've been playing in private servers for the past 20 yearsanyone who doesn't think this is going to be milked with cosmetics, mounts, and now store-bought new races AND new classes is beyond fucking deluded
>>747511336This genuinely looks dogshit
wow classic has a problem where its been done to death and you play that raw shit long enough you just start wanting things like personal loot and dungeonfinder with soloable quests and other crazy QoL changes that its not even classic anymorebut if they are selling it as just nu-wow azeroth only then yeah ill get on that shit
>>747515525>>too embarrassed to admit they were trickedthis is all the streamers right now lmao
this is just TBC if was made by nuBlizzard trannies and stayed at 60 lmao
>>747515882is that one of the new dungeons?
>>747517965>at this pointmore like since MOP
>>747511336Be so fucking honest with me.When you envisioned classic+, did you honestly think "yes, another blood elf recolor in some kind of floating shadowlands-esque sky city that was never even hinted at before and has 0 roots in the setting"?
I've already experienced WoW. What's the selling point that's supposed to make me want to experience it all over again? It's not going to feel new when it's essentially the same game, just with different loot.
>>747515525i dont get it. its just another attempt at SoD but this time they are admitting its all we are ever going to get "forever"anyone excited for this is mentally ill or being paid
>>747517918That's even worse. It completely invalidates the point of capping you at lvl 60 and introducing horizontal progression.
>>747511336By shutting down our fan passion projects to capitalise on something they were too lazy to make?
>>747518408people just want to play together that alone makes drones buy subscription
> giving classic an OC elf never mentioned before> they look like a forgotten asset from ShadowlandsDoes Blizzard even care at this point? It's like they openly mock their player base for fun
>New race can't be Paladin>Most Paladins will go for Undead Paladin for the novelty of it.Small blessings, I can play a human Paladin and it won't be as overpopulated on alliance(though it will still be top2 probably).
looks like a pserver but tamerather play one to be honest, they can pull off crazier shit and better>noooooooooooooooo I need my characters to last FOREVER how will I show my grandkids ???
>>747513767Kill them all.Duh.It was the only logical step.Of course, then it wouldn't be WoW without the Horde and in one move you've managed to skip straight to Dragon Isle hugbox "let's be friends, guys!" bullshit.
>>747513589>Put alien invaders in campsOmG iT is LiteRalLy ColOniAliSam!!!
Unironically day 1 undead shadow priest and /v/ can't do anything about it except cry while I'm having fun playing with my friends.>mfw
Where did they mention official gamepad support? It already exists on era without addons, just doesnt have a natve UI without addons
>warriors buffedWhy did they do that?
>>747511336>Body 2I see all Blizzard games are still 100% unplayable.
>>747518423SoD was stealing the Mystic Enchantment system from Ascension.Now they're stealing the class changes from Turtle.Look forward to when they steal AI players from the single player repack in five years, then you can truly play the game forever.
>>747513589orcs are interplanetary invaders who came buffed up on feljuice explicitly to kill everyone and raze the new planet after already destroying their own
>>747518360I envisioned high elves and blood elves being more involved with the game since they were already in vanilla, but not as playable races at least for now.
>>747518684Because they don't understand shit about vanilla.
Can anyone tell me why is blizzard refreshing a 30 year old game instead of making a totally new one?
>>747514865Pissed me off so much we never got Taunka sub-race or the Tuskar.
>>747518684where are you getting your infos from?
>>747511336I just care about class updates. Did they fix Paladin? Druid?
>>747517143Lol, I remember that. I think what triggered her was people complaining about so much interracial porn on the front page.
>>747517773>gameplay changes>turtle?
>>747518709>Look forward to when they steal AI players from the single player repack in five years, then you can truly play the game forever.Isn't there already some dungeon bot thing you can use? But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if a full-on single player WoW happens at some point (after DMCAing the playerbots mod, of course)
>>747511336It's sad seeing the streamers having to fake enthusiasm for skyborne, what a misfire
>>747518649us chads have already experienced everything wow has to offer. blizzard has literally run out of ideas to keep us interested. reskinning the same game over and over only appeals to cattle
>>747518792They are making a totally new game. They're doing a Starcraft shooter.They're refreshing WoW classic because it's literally the most successful game in the world and since the company (and industry at large) is wholly incapable of understanding why people keep chasing classic, it's more cost effective to just asset flip what they already have.
Convince me not to buy access to the beta.
Heard a rumor that it has War Mode, AKA no PvE and PvP servers.Can anyone find a source to confirm or deny?
>>747513370no one wants the donut steel elf race period
>>747518973It's a beta. I don't think the progress carries over. You're just gonna have to play it again. Any info you need will be given to you by other people playing the beta. Don't get caught up in FOMO bro.
>>747518808livestream of the demo at blizzcon
>>747511336Do you know how exhausting this is? Do you know how fucking tiring this whole franchise is? I have watched it wither and decay and become a desiccated life-supported shell of itself. How did it come to this? Who the fuck is this shit for anymore? I've been enthralled by this fucking game since I was like eight years old. I've spent nearly two fucking decades of my life watching this horrendous massacre in slow motion. Not only have they just not listened to what fans wanted in terms of story or lore, and added in fucking Elves that have not and NEVER have existed in the lore, they also just made new bullshit up to justify it. How the fuck can they NEVER get anything right? Couldn't they have just followed the fucking Warcraft RPG and stuck to a more conservative angle with the character designs?Ogres? Forest Trolls? Broken/Lost Ones? Anything else? WHY A FUCKING BLUE TRANNY OC ELF? I literally am so tired of everything. This franchise is wasted on the hacks at Blizzard. The soul evaporated a long time ago and I've just been coping for so long. The lore's been spat on and rolled around in shit for decades now. They could have had any sort of lore from any of the RPG books. Any race that people WANTED. Instead they just fucking shit on a plate and coping blizzard shitmunchers will gobble that up and claim Warcraft's "SO BACK". It is nothing of the sort. It's better to have realised late than never at all.
I knew it was going to be bad.I also knew it was going to be worse than I could have ever prepared myself for.There were over a thousand things they could change, so they keep what is the problem and add more on top of it.We've been given the perfect kind of awful that is almost satisfying in how pitiable it is.The one thing Blizz actually gave us this Blizzcon - schadenfreude on a massive scale.
>>747518973you're a retarded faggot if you have to post something like this, so you might as well buy the 80 dollar version of your retarded faggot game full of retarded faggots like yourself
I was just so excited to play fresh wrath era this Christmas. Im excited for plus. But Frick. I was soooooo stoked to fresh level northrend
>>747518938I mean WoW 2 or something like that.It doesnt even need effort just shiny graphics and the same gameplay, normies would love it and they would earn millions.
>>747511336>"HERE, Have another elven race that is unexplained or bullshitted into lore"Ugh, Can the faggiest blizz defender explain or we just gonna assume "Need more money"
What would they have to add to WoW Forever for (You) to play it?
>hire DEI niggers, faggots, trannies and lesbians>game "somehow" goes to shitGee, I wonder why?
>>747518719i see the doctors, cultural enrichment, and diversity that azeroth desperately needs
>>747512641horde always get alliance races. they already have elves and dwarves in retail.
>>747518792Because it's so much more money efficient it's hilarious.>Copilot, search and replace "blood elves" with "skyborne">Now go to textures/player/blood_elves and run make_blue() on every fileAnd that will cost you 50% of a full game. When you have customers like these doing anything more would be a crime against your shareholders.
>>747512641Troons, obviously. Alliance is too normie-pilled to ever allow another troon-based race ever again. You gotta remember, the troons already think they are the bad guys, no way in hell they'll ever consider the other side, lmfao. Wow is dead, has been dead and will never live again. what the fuck are we even talking about here, jesus
>>747518792>why refresh a game that crushed every single competitors that released during a 30 years timeframe
>>747518973>$60>all progress gets wiped>ends sometime in October, so you still have to wait 2 weeks doing nothing before launch
>>747518925New dungeons, raids, gear and talents is enough for me. I only ever cared about PvE, even back in vanilla.
>WoW in 2026
>>747518973Its a waste of time. Icyveins will have anything I want to know.
>>747519059Damn nigger. FFXIV had one bad expansion and I dropped it. Why not do the same with WoW?
>>747515761if you missed turtle wow or ascension you are just getting an inferior version of both, now with shitty retail wow writing and art designlook at that new logo, does that look like the wow you remember?
>>747519059>Ogres? Forest Trolls? Broken/Lost Ones?No one is playing this shit, though I agree that the new elves suck. They should have done high/blood elves.
>>747516506>>747516389It is for leveling alts, does not increase power level overall for level 60s but it does for your level 20 character
>wow forever>level capped at 60
>>747519026>>747519076>>747519135I don't mind giving 3 friend codes to 3 friends though. This pack does provide me with that so it's €13*4 subscriptions.
>>747519096The first step wouldn't be adding things. It'd be cutting the rot out before it festers.
>>747519259The codes are just for launch week, they don't get a full month.
>>747519059>How the fuck can they NEVER get anything rightbecause it hasn't been the same company for a long time. all the talent left over a decade ago
>>747519191blizzdrones are mindraped into not being able to do anything other than play blizzard games and complain about them the entire time
>>747519096Worgen, Pandaren and VulperaAlso kill Baine and give us a real Tauren leader
>>747519325Oh I misread then. Fuck the pack then.
>>747516820Legitimately no one, they really dropped the ball on this one
Be honest with me. How much of the game is now about DEI shit. Like faggot dragons, and faggot horse people, and cripples in wheel chairs. As a sane person, if I played classic, would I have to deal with political agendas being thrown at me?
>>747519096desu I'm too lazy to play as anything other than blood DK anymore. Sorry classic.
>>747519246I can see them folding on this because I do not see them being able to retain people otherwise.
Making classic wow gay and trans, adding retail races, adding retail lore, ruining everything that makes vanilla good.
>>747516820The response has been overwhelmingly negative but they're not gonna change shit unfortunately.
>>747517267Going out of your way to invent new garbage nobody wants is something but it isn't "creatively bankrupt".
>>747519381Well, they added in 1000 new quests so those might contain that, but classic didn't really have much of that at all.
>>747512891I would sub just to play ogre.
>>747519423>recoloring elves for the nth time>creative
>>747515761what the fuck is wrong with you, you literal fucking shiteater? how are you not completely out by now? just let it fucking go. i let go with BfA and havent looked back. i just like to tune in to these threads to look at the retarded state of wow.
>>747518649>>747519151we already got that with twow for free for years lmao, go pay for your inferior garbage, it aint classic+, it's retail-
>>747519096They fucked up calling it classic+ instead of something like classic reimagined to set the tone properly, I'll probably try it regardless though since I do care more about something like, wotlk era class complexity/feel than I ever did vanilla(most classes handle like heinous dogshit in vanilla), and apparently you just need a sub to play it. Never buying the stupid elves.
I'd play single player wow with bots and no subscription costs
>>747513589So significantly more humane and generous than torture and murder?
>>747514865Every week I think about how cool it would be to be able to play as a Naga, or a Dryad, or a Centaur.Blizzard is the company of missed opportunities.
>>747517143iirc he was talking about the genestealer cults which makes more sense, but is again a self report>These brainwashing rapist invaders worshiping alien gods and subverting their host civilizations with the ultimate goal of its destruction are...antisemitic!
>>747519127MMOs aren't; games, troon. haven't been since second life, yet you're still willing to larp hard as fuck to maintain some facsimile to justify your existence. Face it, you're barren, sterile and the ultimate end point of many, MANY family trees. Go make another blonde blood elf named lilith and wonder why your ancestors are crusing you from beyond the grave. Gotta love to see shit being peddled by evolutionary dead-ends like you lmfao
>>747519096I wanted more solo activities but half the presentation was about raids and dungeons.Im an old man man with kids I dont have time for hours long uninterrupted gameplay
>NuElves can't be PaladinsFuck, I didn't want to play Druid, I hate never seeing my character. I might go Shaman.
>>747514145It would be really easy to make actually attractive/realistic models across the board. No more hunchback, huge human forearms, draenei lordosis, etc.
>>747518709I don't think they stole anything from Turtle besides tents (sleeping bags in SOD i think). I wish they stole the leveling challenges ides and survival prof because those were good shit. The new classes seem to be more like taking shit from TBC and Wrath, which is more Epoch style. Undead Pally/Dwarf Shaman being so popular for Epoch is probably why they are doing it in Forever.
>>747515761just realize that you are part of the problem literally giving blizzard money for their constant stream of LITERAL MUMBAI DOGSHIT. KILL. YOUR. SELF.
>>747519195I concur with this in some aspects. However, High and Blood Elves have already been done. They still work, regardless. But I think they should have went with the turtle approach of Goblins or Ogres for Horde and High Elves for Alliance. Ogres have been asked for decades. They still are the only member race of the original Horde that has never been added in to the Horde proper. They had their lore fleshed out in Draenor to an interesting degree that could be built upon, but I should just accept it's a waste.>>747519191I'm a masochist. I'm an autistic masochist that has had a love for this game since I was a kid. Fascinated by it. Lost in it. It was something that captivated my imagination so much that it's been a wound every time I watch the story and lore slashed and hacked apart to justify new dogshit writing by Gen X and Millennial retards. I just wish something could change. But nothing will change. They are set in their way. >>747519336I have to agree. It's just miserable to watch nevertheless.
>>747519524it exists and is very easy to set up but the bots are retarded without a ton of set up and handholding
>>747519450>they added in 1000 new quests so those might contain thatGuess I'll wait for people to vet those and check back. Not like I'm in any rush to play since I quit over 15 years ago.
Vanilla wow is good because it's immersive and makes sense, now they add retarded sky elves, transmogs and retail disney visuals, it's just retail shit ugly poop.
>>747519096Free 2 play. No subscription fee. I don't like giving blizzard money.
>>747517012>It's classic so there aren't Blood Elves,Why do people think this?Oh right I forgot WoW was overrun by people who use addons to collect quests and never read the quest text
>>747511336>more new elves>body typesGuess I'm sticking to XIV for a while longer.
>>747519096Ban all bot farms and RMT faggots. Zero microtransactions and cross server features.nuBlizzard would never do these.
>>747519381Do you consider strong womyn and colored characters in an Arthurean setting a political agenda? If the answer is yes, then all the time. If you mean actual gay flags in your face and "We must bring down the capitalist pigs end their colonial white male rule" tier dialog then almost never.
>twow>Turtle WoW — Mysteries of Azeroth>Mysteries of Azeroth — is a fan-made expansion story for WoW Vanilla that delves deeper into exploring the original lore of the game.AHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAAAYou faggots are so sad you actually made me laugh out loud.The fact that I know you're serious just makes it better.
>>747519127Fortnite got a 14M concurrent and a 44M unique daily. Don't kid yourself.
>>747519654You can turn off the transmogs and retail visuals
>>747519654>transmogs and retail disney visualsyou can turn them off
>>747514865What's the thing in the background next to the ogre?
Did any fucking retard in here watch the first hour of the keynote presentation and still have any actual hope for this abortion of a game?>20 minute segments of different ethnically ambiguous women saying nothing of value>crying while regurgitating therapy speak the entire time>top 5 most homosexual men in california competing for most flamboyant antics>every single speaker talking about how this is your special home like it's some kind of cult>all of them promising games launching in 2030>metzen was too embarrassed to even show his facejesus christ, blizzard is actually a corpse
classic + sounds neat because it probably has a good mix of nostalgia + feeling new, but you probably play it for 2-3 weeks and then its just wow
>pre order bonuses>marketing pitch includes a retoilet "starting experience" yeah i stopped caring 2 minutes in. they don't have any clue how or who they are making their game for. j
>>747516389Where did you found this? I wanna see more.
>>747511336No wonder they killed Turtle, their own Classic+ got mogged by a private server
>>747519719so theyre gonna make 2 versions of every new dungeon and raid?
>>747519660This right here. If it didn't cost anything I might try it.
>>747519618This is the reality. People love elves, which makes sense, Warcraft elves are cool. Not these ones though. I might just make one with white skin and larp as a blood elf.
>>747519683weird ur trying to be an elitist fag about lore but dont understand why blood elves aren't available during the time classic is set
Alliance should have high elvesHorde should have pandasHorde get a second horde exclusive brewmaster classAlliance get a ranger class or somethingSorry ogrefags it's never gonna happen
>>747517281>just make them whitethats heckin problematic though
>>747511336What did you win?>boosts>wow token>retail influence>all vanilla devs are gone>women developers>gay pride parades>boosts>dungeon finder>raid finder>group finder>bots>gold buying>bot mafias>automatic report and ban systems>no moderation (getting banned by bots)
>>747519779>retoilet "starting experience" Every class has a starting experience
>>747519096> Ogres, Goblins and Forest Trolls for Horde> High Elves, Broken and [Insert Bullshit Race here] for the Alliance> Unique epic classes for each race (Blademaster for Orcs, Demon Hunter for NE, etc)> New zones that actually fit the theme of ClassicYes, it would take a lot of work, but that's the minimum I ask if they want my subscription in 2026.
>>747511336I'm not watching your channel faggot, buy an ad.
>>747519861weird you're writing like a human but your iq is so low you cant figure out that available to players doesnt mean not in the game world
>>747519798one of the people streaming from blizzcon right now
>>747519739It's insane how the woke cult has absolutely ruined culture and entire companies, mentally ill sexual deviants are in control of massive companies because of dogmatic woke beliefs permeating society.
the fact they had all the source code to turtlewow and this is the best they can come up with ahhhahahahahahhahhahahahahaah
>>747519868>PandasNo.Give Darkfallen to the horde.
>>747519918>Forsaken WC3 style death knight>Orc Blademaster>Troll spear chucker>Orc WC2 style death knightSoul....
>>747519721you mean the taunka or the draconid?
>>747519918> Ogres, Goblins and Forest Trolls for Horde> High Elves, Broken and [Insert Bullshit Race here] for the Alliance> Unique epic classes for each race (Blademaster for Orcs, Demon Hunter for NE)How to get a 80/20 faction split in one simple step.
>>747519945they are talking about playable races im sorry ur a little fag who got super excited to gotcha somebody with your obscure npc knowledge but it has nothing to do with the conversation
You people suggesting other races are missing the point. Horde was always going to get a "pretty" race to satiate female players. Might as well be some blueberry elf at that point.>oh but they are a minorityA minority with power as seen from the amount of yappers on stage
>>747520154>draconidThis one...and damn, they are a perfect fit for the Horde.
>>747517043>battle passseasonal content was basically that
>>747520027Pandas have WC3 precedentbut those are fine too since dark rangers exist
Doesn't look like they made druid healers any more desirable in raids...
>>747520203Literally just change these fucking elves to be white and then make them High Elves for Alliance and Blood Elves for horde. Give them slightly different racials and you're done.
Kinda funny they can be made to just have blood elf skin tones and not that god awful exaggerated blue. Still retarded they charge as much as they are for them, or at all.
>>747519739>metzen was too embarrassed to even show his faceThe funniest part about all of this is that deep down he this shit is ass.
It's like they have to remind the audience to cheer.
>>747520203There's a billion pretty races you could add to the horde that don't rape the lorethey added fanfic blue sky elves to vanilla CLASSICdo you even hear yourself you deluded nigger
>>747520257>muh raids muh parses muh raid loggingOk.
>>747520169Too much work for lazy nu-Blizz.Simplest thing to do was high elves for Alliance, blood elves for Hordethe assets are already there, the lore is more or less already there, and it gives Horde a 'pretty' race people will actually play instead of 3 uggos only cool guys like you and I would touch
How do the Skyborne fit the vanilla lore? Do we have anything to go by besides the wind elementals?
>>747520154Had a good laugh when they announced those dragontwinks but not these.
is it classic+ or retail-?
This somehow looks worse than any of the vanilla + private servers kek
>>747520250>Pandas have WC3 precedentI know, I just don't like them as a playable race.
>We want to reset WoW so it's more like classic>You know how we should start it? New race because asians don't like the ugly horde races
>>747520350It is Shadowlands 2.
>>747519719I have a bridge to sell you
>>747520331lol
>>747520409I mean they advertised that. If they lied, they lied. If they turn it off later, they're assholes. I am just repeating their own words.
>$30 neutral raceAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
>>747520203Accelerate.Give Horde Blood Elves, Succubi and big busty Theramore HumansGive Alliance Furbolgs, Quillboar and Kobolds while making standard humans flatter
>>747514529>>Every jew is confirmed a criminal by crime of being born a jew!!!YHVH seems to think soreally I can't think of anything more abrahamic than exterminating a race for their collective sins
>>747520383If only there were a solution compatible with vanilla's lore for this problem.
is there honestly even anything they can do to make people quit the game or at least be disgruntled
>retoilet models>retoilet "starting experience">retoiled monetization schemes>retoiled class designi expected nothing but i still feel like i got scammed
>>747520313>Simplest thing to do was high elves for Alliance, blood elves for HordeI just don't understand why they did not do this. I hope this doesn't mean Eversong Woods, Ghostlands and Silvermoon are out of the picture, those are my favorite zones.
>>747520331They don't. They are an entirely new invention for Retail- sorry, I mean... for WoW Forever
why couldn't they just add draenei and blood elf, I would've played again.
It looks pretty awesomeI actually struggle to imagine someone who likes Classic not being at least interested in this unless they are hard set on just playing Era for life. I would've expected a box fee and a separate sub for something like this too.
>>747519096New classes
>>747520331they don't, they fit into the retail lore of elves descending from trolls, this is a massive retcon of classic and it shows that it will not be good
they're clearly so out of ideas and talent.every random shitposter could come up with a better concept of what classic+ would be without having unrealistic expectations.
Awful dogshit. We lost Ascension for this crap. Skyborne is the most dogshit race I've ever seen. They could've gone with murlocs, ogres, gnolls, furbolgs, and nagas. But they chose to copy paste blood elfs and make them blue. Blizzard is the worst company of all times right next to Bethesda.
>>747520554thisascension shattered the vanilla paradigm. i can never go back.
>>747520552Most of the people I know who are still floating around WoW, as in they do not like retail but liked Classic/SoD are very excited for this. They're so excited they're trying to rope me into playing. One of them even offered to just buy me a sub at launch (Money is not the issue at all for me lol) which is a very kind gesture and might at least make me check it out.They also think the new race looks dumb and most of them don't even wanna buy it unless their starting area has something that is necessary for progression.
>Harpies existNo we must add another flavor of elf
>>747520549I have been yelling at them to add Blood Elf and Draenei into base classic for years, idk what they thought with this fake race
>>747520203It's not like elves are only pretty race in WoW or something. Let me play as a harpy or some shit if horde needs something to jack off to.
why is it always ELVES
>>747517012Blood elves existed since wc3 though?
>>747520543New stuff is good, Classic plus should be a new beginning for wow.Sky elves are not good, but they are not bad just because they are new I mean.
>people already playing it>people already showing off the new racials, updated talents, etc>nearly 2 month long beta>DIVE INTO A WORLD OF WARCRAFT CLASSIC FULL OF DISCOVERY, UNEXPLORED, UNKNOWN
>>747520350regular retail
>>747519354Kys
>>747520554They already talked about adding new classes. That'll be $60 dollars.
Fucking whore cunts alphabet people ruining blizzard, fuck off back to fucking getting raped by your uncles.
I was always interested in WoW from a distance as a zoomer. I watched my cousin play it and WC3 back in the day.All these editions and stuff confuse me. Are there even any new players? Is it stupid to even entertain the idea?
>>747520528Redditfrog is to 4chan as retoilet models, monetization, starting experience, and class design is to Classic.
I'll form my opinion after I hear Asmongold's take
>>747520203blue elves bother me less than giving the same race to both factions
>>747520679because like 85% of people playing fantasy games choose human or elf every single time
>>747520713Yeah this shit is also retarded cancer, everything will be mapped out, addons will play the game for people etc.
>>747515761You need to play Monsters and Memories instead of WoW. It's time to let go, man. There's a much better MMO in the making.
QRD? I thought they already had a classic wow version. Why would you need two?
>>747520751WoW Forever will absolutely have a lot of people like you, people who missed out on Vanilla and never got into it, and will play. If you want to play WoW, then you should probably wait for Forever. Luckily there is no box price so $12 or whatever will let you try it for a month.
>>747517332Private servers just recycle Hurricane's trailers and those look better.
>>747517012>It's classic so there aren't Blood Elves
>>747520868This is OSRS for World of Warcraft. Locked to level 60 with expanded horizontal progression and adding in all of the shit that they never finished for vanilla. That is the elavator pitch.
>>747520595yeah and unironically knowing what is happening at xbox and seeing all their games planned for around 2030 they'll probably see large layoffs
>>747520751>Entertain the ideaDon't do it.>Are there new playersYes, but "new" can mean a lot of things for a game this old.>ConfusionGet the cheapest one if anything.
>>747515761Play the single player version.
This is "Classic" in name only and all these fucking retards are gonna eat it up.
>>747520818Not in xiv
i hope the community keeps chimping out about skyborne skin tone that they just revert them to blood elf skin tonesreminder that we wanted hyperborean elves not jeet/nig elfs
>>747520792asmongold turns into the biggest goycattle when it comes to wow. he usually has good takes, but blizzard products are his blind spot
>>747520707I agree that new stuff can be good; skyborne aren't. Blue-stained elves reusing old models is the definitive Retail design philosophy. >>747520919>Locked to level 60 with expanded horizontal progressionOh, you mean "almost every single WoW expansion since Legion" but it'll be different because we're level 60. If you told me when Classic first launched that people would be hyped for an AP/Heart of Azeroth parallel system I'd laugh in your fucking face
>>747521032The thing releases in like 2-ish months bro. They aren't gonna change them.
>>747520976If you want pure comedy, tune into any streamer live at blizzcon right now trying out this new "game" and they're just all saying shit like>oh i don't really like this, but it's okay>this isn't great, but it's okay>oh that's kinda bad, but it's okaytotal fucking cope
>>747511336>no male and female>but we are getting succubus and incubusfuq
>>747520792Asmongold doesn't even like MMO's
>>747520952The true red pill was accepting that Thrall was always a mistake.
Why do they even bother having levels when clearly all the actual progression will come from everything but the level of your character
>>747511336Seems kinda mid so far, character last names is neat. Otherwise>New race and starter zone locked behind 30 dollarsEh.
>>747520976That's the idea, the last 7 years of Classic have shown that the game as it was doesn't work with the community as it is now
>>747521096The only widespread complaints I've seen are about the new elves.
>>747521061The current WoW structure basically renders all older content meaningless when something new comes out. Their goal is to have everything stay relevant, or as relevant as it can, because you're capped at 60. There is no automatically giving up months of work when you hit level 61 and find a green sword (hyperbole but you get my point). I am not even defending it, just saying what their intention is.
>>747519518shenna should've used some of those millions to hire somebody who can actually use noggit
>>747520635the only reason we got classic+ is because their sub numbers tanked through the floor so green line stops going up so obviously this was gonna be the result go google fiduciary responsibility you commie retard
>>747520203Blood Elves for HordeAmani for AllianceNeutral Pandaren (true neutral, they never select a faction)Gets a pretty race for Horde, a monster race for Alliance, and my favorite race. This is the true Classic+ ideall
>controller supportOH NO NO NO
Is Arms Warrior going to be proc BASED in this? They destroyed the fun in this class every expansion.
>>747521032Who cares what colour they are, it's going to make horde 80% elves anyway, because people are goon-cattle
>>747521157Wait, can I name my orc Buck Flizzard now?
>>747520203They should have just had the balls to adapt/backport some TBC content early if the timeline is inherently different and more of a deviation than the classic+ a lot of people wanted. It's not like they can avoid such things if this is really a "forever" kind of deal anyways. >>747520516Or this, they underutilize the undead elves in the Forsaken so often I forget they exist. The Undead are supposed to be full of both human and elves given their leader, but we only ever got Forsaken as humans. They could easily justify this as a separate race.
>>747521080changing a bunch of skin tones on a race is a trivial mod its not redesigning models and world design
>>747519096Make bis gear drop from world bosses instead of instanced content.
>>747521198Go suck Trumps cock you fucking retard faggot.
>>747515761I agree bro you should kys
there is just 0 way modern blizz could ever make something actual classic fans would enjoy.i can't even fathom a nu-blizz designer trying to create something like westfall. desolace or barrensfucking imagine the retarded millenial trying to figure out how empty space that just exists can be interesting, and why he shouldnt instead fill every square inch of the area with some kind of clutter.any good idea they have ever come up with is actually just stolen from the community in some way. maybe if they steal ascension's leveling challenges the game might even be fun, but it will just be retoilet garbage like SoD, like everyone with basic pattern recognition predicted
>>747521190>new dungeons and raids get added>gear from easy new dungeons is better than the raid gear you got beforeBut at least your level is still capped at 60, right?
>>747517138>How so?That fact that it literally was.
>>747520751honestly the best new player experience is ascensiongo back in time and play that
>>747521242which stream
>>747521269Until you get reported>>747521242This is why it's going to suck. Controller players are awful. Well maybe with how un-difficult vanilla is that'll not matter
>>747520549At least Draenei have hot women.
>>747521347Yeah these people have no souls, they just think about gay people rights and children making sex changes and masturbate to it. Just destroy humanity now please, Putin please launch all your nukes.
>>747521404What's ascension?
>>747521242>It's the exact same fucking models and everything This is fucking pathetic.
>>747513562Blizz doesn't care, they only made this race for money
>>747521357there are items in mc that you still wear in naxx
runescape won
>>747520984i said fantasy games not tranny games
>>747521483Controller support?
>>747520984That's itGive the Horde catgirls while the Alliance keeps their High Elves
>>747521482theyre probably gonna rebalance a bunch of items so thats not the case because theyre retarded and dont understand real horizontal progression
No wonder that they wanted to kill Turtle and Ascension for this.What a fucking joke this company has become.
>>747521301They didn't even need to backport anything. Your player elf could've just been one who wasn't in Silvermoon when Arthas attacked. That's it, the only necessary change.
>>747511336>We fucking wonBlizzfags walking into the fire again.
>>747520919So they're going to add in the original dragon isles with the huge ass nautilus castle, Karazhan and Hellfire Peninsula?
>>747521460A classic + private server that recently got shut down. Vanilla with new areas/quests, TBC races added and like 20 new classes each with 3 new specs. Was a lot of fun while it lived
So now that classic+ is confirmed shit, what MMO do I move on to? FFXIV fucking sucks too. Any cool private servers for old games hanging around you anons are into?
>>747521482That's assuming they don't change up all the items and that there won't be new dungeons and raids that follow the retail itemization making your special mc item completely useless
So far from what I've seen, and the type of people that are looking forward to this, it seems like this is for people who find retail too complicated but still prefer it to classic wow? Does anyone who actually likes classic want anything to do with this?
>>747519739>Did any fucking retard in here watch the first hour of the keynote presentationI did and you're not wrong. It was actually disturbing to watch
>>747521460Trash
>>747521627Maybe? I dunno, they're adding Hyjal as one of the first areas
>all the streamers on sub onlywew
>>747521659EvE
All they had to do was take Turtle WoW's concept and make it theirs. Maybe have a polling system like Runescape for any future content. But no, that'd be too easy.
>>747521438If SoD is any to go by this version of WoW will be MoP levels of difficult, maybe harder. Controller players are going to get bullied just as much as Clickers.
>>747521347it is actually jarring how stupid they are... "hey guys we know you like the more gritty classic fantasy feel, so here is a dwarf and his gay bear sniffing some flowers, and our new race of genderless blue elves that live in the sky"
>>747521659How about you stop playing MMOs and play something good for once?
>>747520549because nublizz couldnt charge money for it
>>747519739>Did you watch the thing?>I only noticed retarded culture war shitSeek help. I mean at least complain that most of them didn't know how to give a speech to save their franchise.
>>747521460A private server group with a variety of game modes based on the Wrath client. Classless, custom classes, expanded Vanilla classes, etc. It's where the Season of Discovery runes were stolen from.Blizz sued them and the server got shut down last week, they're working on their own MMO now.
>>747521738I doubt they'll make it as hard as SoD got, at least not very soon since they talked about it being accessible.
>Race: Sky elf>Skin tone: White>Finish all interactions with "Remember the Sunwell"As shrimple as that. Pity they can't be Paladins.
>>747521773I haven't played MMOs are my primary genre for a long time, and even when I did I still found time to play other games. Don't project your waste of a life playing nothing but WoW onto me, faggot.
>>747521438Honestly, controller's raise the skill floor, rather than lower it. A lot of people click their abilities. Those would definitely profit by using a controller. And honestly, judging by FFXIV, using controllers in MMOs doesn't have to hinder your performance. Of course it depends on correct setups and the individual's skill.
>>747521659Take the gacha pill>daily tasks>numbers always going up>get to screenshot your rare jpgs and humblebrag post them on discord
>>747521659osrs aboutta get a huge update (raids 4)
Apologise.
>>747521773I am playing XCOM2 LWOTC, but I think I installed to many mods.......
>>747511336>skyborneThat's literally just a blood elf with blue eyes instead of green eyes.
>>747511336Here's your Classic+, it's just Retail again
>>747521891>Take the gacha pillNo. I've played them before and they are all garbage. I'm not 19, a woman, a tranny, or a faggot, so I am not the target audience.
>>747521904it already got an even bigger update you seem to be ignoring for some reason
>>747521242keyboard turner clicker bros we won...
This skyborne shit violently aborted my desire to play this. Retail shit from day 0. Pretty races in the horde. Thanks I guess blizzard.
Chris Metzen
>>747521969it's a shitty youtuber skill
This is the 7th instance of WoW, what will be the 8th?
>>747522023...was already a bad writer in TFT
>>747521920I never wanted old game with no changesI wanted old game but its also new game but without gay shit like blueberry elves and lgbt pandering
>>747521664>Does anyone who actually likes classic want anything to do with this?it's literally anti-vanilla, so no
>>747511336No we didn't, where are the goblins? ogres? one job.
>>747521864>And honestly, judging by FFXIV, using controllers in MMOs doesn't have to hinder your performanceYeah the 2 second gcd game is a real contender for that. >>747521798>It's where the Season of Discovery runes were stolen from.Lmao, this sounds like "TBC stole EQ's gem system"
>>747521920i apologizei thought i wanted classic+ but i don't
>>747521920>>747522023
what the fuck...........fucking.... retoilet leveling progression?what the fucking fuck, actually?
>>747522104>ogres you are obese
>>747522061WOn't know until a private server makes it popular and Blizz will steal it.
all I cared about in classic was hardcore and all I will care about in forever is hardcore
https://x.com/MrGMYT/status/2098864607452623205
>>747522061WoW Forever 2
>>747521738So pretty easy minus using a wiki to find niche abilities?
>>747511336it's worse than I thought lol
>>747520210we sadly live in the age of the Gay&Lame so we're not allowed to have cool shit, as usual.
>>747522187pretty easy in a grouphell trying to pug with normals
>>747522143can you explain more?im curious how quick you can leveli think adding a shit ton of quests and dungeons would just make you level so fuckin fast i hope that it still takes a bit of time
>>747512897
>>747521096Their livelihood depends on this getting popular, I'm surprised they're being negative at all and not going full shill mode
>>747521839>Remember the SunwellSkywell*
>>747512476too few of them plus it never made sense to have a splinter group of elves when sunwell is down but this is nonsensical too
>>747522143
>>747516010>unalive Kill yourself
whats this gear equal to? i didn't play season of discovery or whatever
>>747522150an ogre's pinky has more muscle in it than your entire body
>>747521904>Take RS2>Turn it into a bossing simulator abominationForever devs if you read this look at OSRS on how NOT to do a classic+ experience.
>>747522342you arent an ogre you are a fat retard with sleep apnea
>>747522294so what is their story are those the elves that got blown into the sky when the sunwell exploded ?
>>747516820EewwwwwwwwThis looks like retail
>>747522349rs2 was garbage
>>747521763These kind of people have infested all nerd culture, dnd, magic the gathering, blizzard, bioware etc. it's all woke gay retards.
>>747522307Why does the lore only matter when it comes to High Elves while Night Elves, Forsaken, Blood Elves and Draenei all get crammed into the world for purely meta reasons (this faction needs a Kalimdor race, this faction needs a pretty race)
>>747520952sloppafag
>>747522143just take out every little flavor thing that makes it feel like classic but call it classic. bravo blizzard, audience successfully clammed again
>>747522389Kill yourself retard, goblins and ogres will always be an infinitely better race choice than elf spam
>>747521786literally nothing i said had anything to do with culture war shit, i think maybe you're projecting
>>747522426You were swimming in your dad's balls when RS2 was even a thing.
>>747521763i just want quests that involves someone raping and eating people without the disneyification of it
>>747520549They should've added Red/Demonic Draenei and High Elf if they were smart.
>>747522240Cant wait for raiderio to infest another part of the game
>>747521923holy fucking cringe
>>747522334>Stuns target for 3 sec. Naga are stunned for 5 sec and refund 80% of the cooldown.The racism audit committee will not like this.
>>747522594still better than blue elves mate
>>747522508I expect as much from a faux wojigger
>>747522328>GIVE ME ATTENTIONthey cant help themselves, can they?
>>747511336Im gonna be honest my hype levels are super deflated but im probably gonna buy it anyway at launch to try and recapture that feeling I missed of a fresh server experience, and then drop it after a couple months
>>747515882>reuiers spelling mistake in pic relatedThere's a bunch of mistakes; they did not polish the 1 dungeon and starting zones they are showing off.>It's a beta! (that goes live in 5 days).
>>747522691you could just do the same for free on a private server
>>747522530i played when whip was 7mil and the hardest boss was just seeing if you hit or not, and clicking food. you are an actual subhuman who hates videogames if you think that's better than the current game.
>>747522681To be fair I don't think that woman or Samwise are the ones who put themselves into the game
>>747522669i think maybe i struck a nerve here, sorry that wasn't my intention anonmaybe you should seek help if you are this agitated by some random anon pointing out objective events that occurred at the blizzcon keynote
>>747522397No they are the descendants of trolls, it's taking the retail retcon of elves coming from trolls.So you are playing a fairskinned troll, not a elf
>>747522691>but im probably gonna buy it anywaybro i really dont fucking get you. you even acknowledge that its gonna be shit yet you still let blizzard cum in your mouth and you pay for it? what. the. FUCK. is wrong with you????????? you are part of the problem
>>747522783Here (you) go
>>747522691>Im gonna be honest my hype levels are super deflatedsame, i cannot believe i let myself "keep an open mind" for thisblizzard has no one with talent left at the company
>>747522841thanks bwo
>>747519568just buy crimson desert fellow boomer dad bro
>>747520514>L-leave those child raping canibaals alone!!!do atheistards really
>>747522878i would genuinely consider shorting blizzard if it wasn't owned by microsoft now, i genuinely do not think this company would last another 5 years on its ownamazing legacy company eaten alive by wanna-be devs who just want to be part of the legacy without understanding how to build it
>>747522334when was this segment on the presentation?
>>74751682020 years old assets at this point Blizz just cannot make new animation skeletons anymore
Anyone seen if they nerfed the pvp CC durations to 10s like on TBC
>>747519542>a self reportnah that account is a nazi shartkiddy, i checked
>>747522443Because helfs contradict both, they were never supposed to exist at all
they have prestige points so when you buy boosts, you can run faster on your newly boosted characters
>>747523316Very Classic! + even, if I may.
battle pass, real classic shit here
>>747523029about 3 hours into this https://www.youtube.com/live/LBt8q49qD8k?si=xtlwTvb6FYIaHj9E
>>747522984>cursed a lineage into slavery for making fun of noah getting drunk off his ass>summoned bears to maul a group of men for making fun of a man's baldnessyou can see where islam got the idea that persecution is worse than murder
>>747523412I for one welcome having shit to actually do instead of logging on, doing a DKP run, and fucking off for the rest of the week.
>>747523412>disable transmog>everyone around me loses $10 of value from their battlepassnothing personnel
>>747522334those passives don't look balanced at all.
wow, califoids really think that what people want is more elf recolors
>>747523517>the only reason i play mmo is to raidlog or grind a battle passwhy havent you killed yourself yet
>>747523412Is this a paid battle pass or something that just happens to exist to get you doing stuff? >>747523609Because they do. Don't check what races actually play on any census website.
>>747523517>I for one welcome having shit to actually do instead of logging on, doing a DKP run, and fucking off for the rest of the week.But what about world buffs? They'll decay as you progress through the battle pass which could be a big problem.
>>747523674stfu troonblood elves were the beginning of the end
>>747521923>2Brownbased
>>747521482A few select pieces from Ragnaros himself mainly, BWL had a bunch of good trinkets, but otherwise the progression is still fairly linear, just less drastic than modern retail where they make all your gear irrelevant and outclassed every single patch
>>747523568The dwarf racial is exactly the same as the troll racial in vanilla.The broken new racials aren't shown on that image. Roll orc (pve) or human (pvp) btw.
>>747522791That came from long before modern retail, that was said back in Wotlk.
>>747523797Still I mean 5% more damage to a select group of mobs vs a chance to lifesteal anything including other players? its not even close
>>747523509>disingenuous interpretation without any contextin both of those, it was much more than whatever reddit theology you gathered.those insulting the Prophets were stirring up disbelief in the youth and surrounding environment.God squashed it with no remorse, for He cannot be mocked. carry on seething and quoting verses with zero context and never learning anything because you're a retarded faggot who bathes in sin.
>>747523790speaking of I really hope every legendary is like atiesh instead of the retardation that is thunderfury/glaives
>>747523412This isn't a battle pass tho. Their legacy system is just the system they made to get people to play more characters and chase achievements, it's basically just the GW1 Hall of Monuments but instead of getting rewards in a different game its rewards given to the existing game you're playing.
>>747523913The "up to" means it'll have some kind of ppm balancing. Could be good or total shit.
>>747517138Theramore was literally used to invade the barrens are you retarded go look at the game map there's a giant fucking alliance fort down there
>>747516865They're explicitly worse than Blood Elves because they chose faction slavery and diaspora cuckoldry when the real Quel'Dorei where rebuilding Quel'Thalas and the Sunwell. Realistically they shouldn't even be called "high elves" because they have no High home anymore. Either Diaspora'Dorei or Void Rats because most of them got tentacle'd.
>>747523932god seems to be fine being mocked these past 2000 years>you are corrupting your children by humiliating my prophet so I will enslave your children to teach them a lessonit's a joke all on its own
>>747523674Last I checked years ago nobody played void elves. They wanted the elves from the rts games., which would be high & blood, night elves.
so funny watching the shills try to put a positive spin on this turd of a showcase
>>747522118>Yeah the 2 second gcd game is a real contender for that.I havent touched it since HW, but how does this meme still exist? Surely you don't actually believe that right?
>>747524275The relentless copium shilling about "KLASSIK PLOOS IS WOW 2 GUYS IT'S GGONNA BE EPIC" that's been raping my recommended page makes this all the more delicious.
>>747524028>there's a giant fucking alliance fort down thereYes? And it's Jaina's city? Which was built back in Warcraft 3? It's not an alliance fort made to invade Kalimdor? Jaina built her own kingdom there after she took Lordaeron survivors to Kalimdor.
>>747524275that's what wow shills dothey're literally professional turdgulper. not a hint of dignity
Still going to play it since I played TWoW they basically stole the idea of the old belf model being in game
>>747524414Oh yeah I saw that too. Hilarious. Some Preach thumbnail about "IT WILL BE WOW 2!"
>>747524496>basically stole the idea of the old belf model being in gameWhy are you people like this
>>747524556MUCH BIGGER THAN WE THOUGHT
>>747524627I bet he's hard-coping now about how this is exactly what he meant and better than he ever expected.
>>747524496Make sure you remember to grab a few level boosts, don't forget to grab your swag from the Blizz Store as well before you set on your Adventure, WoWster
>>747524496TrannyWoW somehow managed to be even worse. Both lorewise and community that infested it.
at least they're fixing Warcraft 3 Demake...
>>747524786It was actually 95% fixed for awhile now already if you turned off the new graphics
>>747524786> Fixing it by adding new stories with LGBT charactersyaay...
>>747516597>>747519209>It's for leveling altsso what happened to "Leveling is just as important as endgame"?I fucking hate how WoW has a stranglehold on this genre holy fuck.
>>747524786Are fixing the ugly as sin models?
>>747516820This is literally for the Chinese/Korean market. They wouldn't play horde without a "beautiful" race. It's literally a market concession instead of just telling them to kick rocks if they don't like original warcraft.
>>747516820dabadidabadai
>>747525149They redid the art for a second time. Original art director got fired years ago.
>>747525149https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr12davgtw0
