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>Here's your classic+, bro
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>classic+retail
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the game has been out for almost 20 years and they still never implemented native controller support.

if I cant play this shit one handed while laying on my couch, I don't want to play it at all
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It's an unending humiliation ritual.
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>>747522558
they literally said it will have native controller support
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>>747522583
Who buys/wants this shit? It’s just a blue belf. I’m so glad I quit playing after the end of Wrath.
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>>747522583
Why are the Shadowlands elves in vanilla now?
Isn't that the worst thing they could have done?
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>>747522558
They added a one button mode a while ago
What's really crazy is the complete lack of Linux support in 2026. They're a decade behind the rest of the industry.
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Private servers give us
>new zones
>ported zones from various expansions
>ported races and even new playable races
>a variety of new game modes and custom systems to tinker with
>booba sliders
>custom content/quests/etc
>all of which can be played as a regular server, solo, or with bots

and blizzards shuts them down to give us $30 blue elves. man am I glad repacks exist.
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>Foids and gays are the ones that buy most of the cosmetic shit
>You want to have a somewhat even split between Horde and Alliance
>Can't introduce Blood Elves or people will say you're not doing Vanilla
>Introduce Blue Elves instead, with the same model, etc
>Charge for it
>Foids and trannies will gobble it up
>Make millions
It's a win/win strategy for them
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>>747522701
A lot of people like elves of different colors, why do you think Skyrim is as popular as it is?
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>>747522659
>they literally said it will have native controller support
it wouldn't be the first time they walked back a feature that they promised at blizzcon
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Turtle and Epoch and Ascension died for this btw
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>>747522706
They're not the shadowlands dudes. They're high elves who moved to Mt. Hyjal or some shit. They're sky elves.
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>>747522206
Idgi
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>>747522583
I literally joked that there would be the wow token earlier today but this is somehow even worse, I pity anyone who gives blizzard their money in this day and age, i cant believe this is their opening salvo, $30 to play a race
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>>747522867
>shit and trash and cancer died for this
Ok?
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Why is he looking so gay?
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>>747522701
>>747522706
You can make the skin tone look exactly like a blood elf. Blonde, blue eyes. Just like void elf. They basically unlocked druid from being the ugly races, it will sell like mad.
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>>747522206
No Wowo Wawas forever my son.
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>>747522840
Skyrim lore is mostly about killing elves though.
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>>747522583
>free expansion for Vanilla that is funded by retards that want to play as le pretty race
Why are people mad about this?
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>>747522867
Epoch was the only good one out of those and it was already long dead when Ascension bit the dust.
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So is this vanilla WoW that is somehow going to get its own new expansions?
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>>747522976
The most egregious part of the cinematic is that they reused the dwarf from Vanilla but Disneyfied, and completely removed the female night elf huntress in her undies from the original.
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>>747523026
The only reason people play Skyrim is for the porn mods where you can see the elves naked.
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>>747522583
Not class but a race. A gay blue elf race to be precise. You are paying 30 bucks to play as a faggot
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>>747522206
>yo dude we heard you didn't like the direction retail was heading in so we're going to retcon everything you liked and put brand new lore and systems into classic (retail lore and retail systems)
humiliation ritual
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>Alliance get Blessing of Salvation FOREVER
ugh, i don't want to play fucking alliance
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>>747522206
Atp I think they’re purposely trying to kill off the classic fanbase
They are going to salvage what they can with the people that don’t mind the retail additions to classic
Everyone else is being pushed out
That’s what this all feels like to me because they know we hate retail and anything that has to do with it
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>>747522976
they heckin disney chungus-ified him. he was so fucking cool in the OG intro that my big bro made a dwarf hunter and used a bear pet the entire game. I feel like a total schizo for caring but I really hate the modern tone of WoW
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>>747522206
>see miss Shasharma they're saying they'll be playing wow FOREVER haha please don't close our studio
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>>747522341
everyone was asking for this
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>retail-ified skill progression despite the fact downranking was a legitimate thing, especially for healers
>early naming paywalled
>new race that will probably have broken racials paywalled
>controller support for casuals

its like they missed the entire reason why people loved vanilla
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>>747523125
>horde get the good windfury totem forever
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>>747522206
I anticipate this will be moved into a maintenance mode like SoD after a year. They don't know what they're doing or what people want.
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>>747522976
this is what blizzard want wow to be now, a pretty mild fantasy game where there cannot be anything too bad or hardcore because it makes people uncomfortable, you either do your peace with that and move along or spent the next 10+ screaming on the internet about it
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>>747522976
>memberberries the dwarf
oh boy they are desperate now.
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>>747522976
>>747523098
>>747523158
>"disneyfied"
>look inside
>it's just a man walking through nature and being happy
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>>747522206
Looked good until the blue elves showed up.
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>Too classic for retail players.
>Too retail for classic players.
Who is it made for?
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>>747523382
the bear is panting like a dog and smiling
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>>747523260
new race racials are 100% mana and hp regen active on alliance and 10% movement speed active on horde

1% haste on both factions
slow fall on both factions
5% extra dmg on elementals
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>>747522583
soooo if i don't plan on playing the elf i don't need to pay?
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i assume that having to level up mutiple classes for legacy shit is going to be requiered sooner or later for groups/raids?
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>>747523260
The new race is going to be so out of place I don't know how it won't bother people who claim to love vanilla so much. It makes no sense, so many races that could've been and they add this.. nonsense.
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>>747522206
I don't get it. So this doesn't contain all content from Vanilla classic but new content instead? How many versions of WoW are currently available?
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>>747523431
Yeah, because it's a pet. People bred dogs and cats to be agreeable animals with characteristics that endear us to them, why wouldn't people in a fantasy world do that with their animals?
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>>747523260
downranking still exists not sure what you are talking about
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>>747523489
you're still paying the monthly fee. otherwise you're only paying to reserve your name for $30.
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>>747523382
>i will deflect from the fact that they removed a the night elf huntress
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>>747523382
Point to a single scene of combat in the trailer where a hit actually lands.
I remind you there is a word WAR in world of WARcraft.
Where is the WAR in this trailer?
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someone in my guild said Dalaran is Alliance-only, is that accurate information?
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>>747523260
>controller support for casuals
I bet it will still be worse than FFXIV's.
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>>747522583
just... don't play this race then? their racials don't look particularly broken or anything so people will still go dwarf on alliance or orc/forsaken on horde.
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>>747523429
people bored with classic and people who pretend to hate retail but actually like 90% of what it offers
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Human: New class Hunter
Will to Survive: remove stun
Perception: detect stealthed enemies for 20 secs
Sword Spec (passive): swords increase spell and ability crit chance by 2%
The human spirit (passive): 5% increased spirit

Dwarf: New class Shaman
Stoneform: immunity to bleeds, poisons, and diseases and reduced physical damage taken for 8 secs
Find treasure: unchanged
Mace spec (passive): maces increase spell and ability chance by 1%
Big Game Hunter (passive): Damage to beasts increased by 5%

Night Elf: No new class
Elune’s light: Increase crit chance by 10% for 15 secs
Shadowmold: Gain stealth while immobile
Quickness (passive): 1% increased dodge chance and 2% increased run speed
Wisp (passive): same

Gnome: New class Priest
Escape Artist: brief immunity to roots and snares
Eureka!: reduced cost and 10% increased damage or healing on next 3 spells or abilities.
Expansive Mind (passive): Maximum mana, rage or energy increase by 5%
Engineering spec (passive): More reliable engineering devices
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>>747523573
>Where is the WAR in this trailer?
didnt you see the new battleground?
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>>747523431
dogs and bears are both Arctoidea

if there's an animal that can smile like a dog, it's probably bears
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>>747523429
SoD players and Streamers.
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>>747523382
He fought a tauren invading his home in classic.
He entered disneyland with blue elves 3.0 now
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>>747523098
druid
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>>747523096
We don't know how they'll handle major updates yet but potentially. They could also just stick to a general outline following og classic releases with content and story changed to add additions in + with expansions if they follow OSRS' approach.
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Orc: New class Mage
Blood fury: increases attack power and spell power by 10% for 15 secs
Shatter curse: immunity to curses and banes and reduce magical damage taken for 8 secs
Axe specialization (passive): axes increase spell and ability crit chance by 1%
Hardiness (passive): Stun duration decreased by 20%

Undead: New class Paladin
Will of the Forsaken: removes charm, fear and sleep
Cannibalism: unchanged
Underwater breathing (passive): unchanged
Touch of the grave (passive): sometimes drain health with your attacks

Tauren: No new class
War Stomp: stuns nearby enemies for 2 secs
Cultivation: Grow bonus herbs that don’t require herbalism to gather
Plainsrunning (passive): Gain increased movement speed the longer you stay moving
Endurance (passive): total health increased by 5% and hit chance increased by 1%

Troll: New class Warlock
Beserking: increase casting and attack speed by 10% for 10 secs
Rapid regeneration: regenerate 50% of max health over time
Beast Slaying (passive): Damage to beast increased by 5%
Regeneration (passive): 10% of health regeneration continues during combat
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Has anyone seen if they nerfed the CC in pvp to 10s like in TBC?
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>>747522583
Don't buy it?
Literally vote with your wallet?
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>>747523632
go shovel more shit into your mouth you fucking retard
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>>747523573
There isn't a scene in the original where a hit actually lands, they cut away when a hit is just about to land, just like the fight between the dwarf and the undead paladin in this one.
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>>747523620
As a city, yes. Anyone can do the dungeon.
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>>747523641
>>747523725
This is fucking stupid. Who the fuck is this for?
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Don't care, got Undead Pally.
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>>747523632
NO YOU HAVE TO BE MAD OKAY?
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>>747523798
What are Horde getting as a city
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>>747523641
>Humans Nerfed
>Dwarfs Marginal Buff
>Nelf Buff but still bad unless Elune's Light has a very short cool down
>Gnome Buff
Meanwhile Tauren get a hit bonus lmao.
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>>747523621
they have to actually rework all classes on xiv because it was getting to difficult for console fags to play with that many bottoms, and those were just 20-25 for some classes, imagine wow with 30+, it going to be a nightmare
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>>747523641
>>747523725
>Orcs can be mages in this verse
>Night Elfs can't

nu-blizz lore geniuses strike again
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>>747523835
Idklol
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>>747523689
So he went on a vacation? People have been doing that since the bronze age at least.
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>>747523828
i refuse to be mad
i can control my emotional response to things
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>>747523689
The difference in tone is brutal. It is as if Blizzard really wanted to distance itself (and Warcraft) from what made them popular in the first place. Weird.
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>>747523835
Trantropolis
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Unironically picked the fuck up.
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>>747523836
i can't believe they kept find treasure racial for dwarves. what's even the fucking point
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>>747523641
>>747523725
A quick scan and these look horribly balanced.
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>>747523725
>Orc: New class Mage
?????????????
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>>747523756
stay mad brokie
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>>747523641
Undead Paladin makes less sense than Night Elf Warlock.
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>>747523862
Night Elves have a cultural aversion to arcane magic, Orcs don't.
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Can I play Troll Druid in Forever?
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>>747522206
i don't understand the long term plan
they have a goal for horizontal progression but the fundamentals of wow basically forbid it
adding a skill twig to professions is one small step, but everything just needs to be massively slowed down, no? like getting to level 60 needs to take 6 months or so. people fucking do this in HOURS now
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>>747522812
>What's really crazy is the complete lack of Linux support in 2026.
But WoW always ran on Linux, right? via WINE/Proton.
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>>747523725
>Orc mage
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>>747523836
Does it really matter?
It's not like Classic is the hardest shit that has to be turbo balanced to be fun, it's imperfections are actually part of it's charm.
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>>747522206
coa and turtle died for this
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I don't like this
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>>747523953
Do you want them to remove all of the unique facets from Classic or not?
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>>747523886
Yes
And he rerolled into a shaman
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>>747522583
i want this poster on every corner (of the west)
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>>747524083
parseniggers are the only people that care about classic pve and they get VERY mad when things are 1% out of balance
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>>747524020
why does it make less sense if a lot of them were paladins before they died and they can already be holy/disc priest
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>>747523979
Well anon thing of it like this.
They want to move away from the dumb orc stereotype because they are equivocated to black people
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>>747523910
agreed. feel like the prevailing complaint even amongst retoilet players is the disneyfication of the game. forever was a perfect opportunity to push back against that, offer a more violent more WARcraft variant. but no, forever actually now looks even more onions, carebear, and disneyfied than even retoilet Lol.
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>>747523979
literally every species in wow can be a mage
all you have to do is pick up a book

ogres (even the single headed ones) can be mages
kobolds can be mages
troggs can be mages
murlocs can be mages
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>>747524105
You say that like either of those were any good.
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>>747523763
>orc beats the shit out of your POV
>bear gets hit by the tauren
>mage blasts the golem summoned by the warlock with fireballs 2 times
>orc hit lands on the elf woman
>tauren weapon lands onto your pov
>every hit is accompanied by the audible meaty sound of being hit
>cut happens right AFTER it lands every time
>the tone is WAR is happening
The whole tone shifted to safe fairy tale exploration with soft friendly characters as opposed to the gritty edgy and cool tone of WAR of the original.
This fucking sucks.
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every talent tree is just tbc/wotlk spells as 31. Nothing new, nothing fun. Gay shit ideas like 3 second cast for calls on shamans
cataclysm- with blue elves
youre niggercattle goys if you pay for this, funniest shit Ive seen in years and its so deserved for blizzard fans
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what people liked about classic was how much like retail it was
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>>747524106
That honor passive reminds me, we're going to be getting the Anni rank system, aren't we? Can't wait for the best way to gear up for raids to be afking in AV.
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>>747524105
based blizzard nuking the tranny servers and taking their money so they cant buy estrogen anymore
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>>747524158
I like PvE, but I don't take it as seriously as some of these retards do.
Frankly I think it removes some of the fun from raiding, people should just play whatever they like, like people did in 2004.
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>>747522583
Do you have to buy them in forever too or just for retail?
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>>747523641
>>747523725
ok so Alliance racials are still dogshit outside of Dwarf while Horde still has all their broken racials.

but the 10% increased rep for Humans was too good, so we take it away and give it to everybody through the legacy system!
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>>747523641
Human hunters are going to fucking delete rogues. Good riddance.
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>>747523260
classic is full of casuals you retard
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>>747524271
Do you want PvP to be an important part of the game or not?
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>>747523125
undead paladins dont get salvation?
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I really don't think people will stick to this version of WoW for very long.
It looks like an unholy fusion of Classic and Retail that neither Classic nor Retail players will prefer over their favorite version.
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>>747524169
>>747524207
i get it, i truly do, but this just skill the whole shamanistic vibe of the horde, why not make a the shaman a more dps role instead?
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>>747523641
>>747523725
Gnome Priest is the only one I disagree with staunchly.
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>>747523260
>controller support for casuals
What the fuck do you think you're playing nigga?
Classic is FULL of casuals.
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>>747524110
that would only make sense if they didn't considerably buff horde
literally all horde racials got buffed
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>>747523260
>45 year old oldtroon with carpal tunnel that thinks being good at WoW means being at videogames is mad that people treat a casual MMORPG like a casual MMORPG
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I mean like, it doesn't look outright horrible to me, but I have 0 interest in playing this. I already don't care much for a classic/retail split, 3 versions of the game is a headache. I'll just hangout in trade in stormwind
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>>747524346
so exactly like SoD. this shit will either be completely revamped or dead in a year

my money is on dead
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I really wanna see the player count nosedive before spring just for the humor of WoW: Forever being over
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>>747524007
>if you dont pay money to eat shit it means your POOOOR
weak bait or your mentally retarded, either way i feel sorry for you
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>>747524329
It's more that it's so easy to do that there's barely a reason to run 60 dungeons beyond the slots that can't be filled with AV/honor gear.
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>>747524054
you would have to make it looped "seasonal" cycle imho
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>>747524506
it's just a shitskin they only see value in buying the latest thing for IZZAT

it's why so many people buy PlayStation and do nothing with them
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>>747524106
this is just the scrapped path of the titans
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>>747524346
People are gonna hit the cap and go back to their mains elsewhere.
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>>747524063
Yes, that's what makes it so strange. Even back around 2008, they had a developer who personally used Linux and would always make sure the game worked fine on WINE. Why not just make it official? Also, historically the game worked perfectly, but the problems were always with the awful Battle.net launcher.
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fuck man. I told myself I wasn't gonna do it.

But the call... I feel deep it in my soul... calling me back...
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>>747524346
it'll stick as long as Microsoft wants to pay the streamers
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>>747524106
>high alert
9/11 for rogue players.
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Everything about Forever seems REALLY Dragonflight-coded to me. 1000 new quests about how the kobolds and gnolls are misunderstood heckin' good boys and LGTBQ ogres.
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>>747524428
>literally all horde racials got buffed
berserking got objectively nerfed
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>>747524106
but what is it
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they have talked about last titan?
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>>747522206
Retail FOREVER!
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>>747524024
All Orcs are shamanistic in their religious practices regardless of Class, meaning they have deep respect for the elements. Being a Mage is in direct opposition to that belief, manipulating the elements and forcing them to do your bidding.

Shaman Fire Elemental is basically the Shaman petitioning the elements through worship to bestow upon him a guardian. Mage Water Elemental meanwhile is the Mage enslaving a Water Elemental into servitude and saying you belong to me now bitch.

Ergo, Orc Mages make zero sense. Priests as well because they would have to abandon the Elements to serve the Light. Warlock is fine because that's messing with demons and doesn't require the Orc to abandon or betray the Elements to summon Demons.
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>>747524684
account-wide progression seasonal talents
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>>747524713
They won't reveal much until Spring 2027
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>>747524684
account-wide talent tree, though I'm not sure how you get the points
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>>747523725
>Cannibalism: unchanged
Cannibalism should make your paladin powers unusable for 30 seconds.
>>747524401
Fuck that, make the Shaman a viable tanking class like it was originally supposed to be
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>>747524624
Good, suffer.
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>>747524329
i dont think pvp should be relevant in a pve game
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>>747524106
Removing all reagent costs is hilariously retail. Paladin blessings are 60 minute sby default so with Permanence they'll last 2 hours?
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>>747524724
kek
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So how do they still justify the monthly subscription to their customers?
Back in the day, server costs were a valid excuse, but nowadays that argument doesn't really hold up. Plenty of f2p games are profitable without forcing users to pay a monthly fee
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>>747524660
Can ogre heads be gay for each other or would it be incest? Can one head be trans?
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There's no way this will be successful because nuBlizzard is incompetent and no one knows what the fuck "classic+" means besides feels, vibes and an absurd amount of surveys.
For instance
>Leveling is just as important as endgame
What the fuck does this mean? Will it mean leveling to 60 will take a whole year? Six months? How long? Do you think WoWtroons are conditioned to like this? Do you think Blizzard can balance the game such that people actually enjoy being stuck at level 40 for a whole month?
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>>747523054
Cause i like vanilla for the vanilla vibes and not OCs that look like they came from shadowlands? It obviously defeats the entire purpose.

It's like if a restaurant offered me free food that was subsidized by people who like eating literal shit so it has shit in it. Naw man i think i'll pass.
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>>747524754
>how you get the points
from achievements
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>>747524346
I think it COULD live but Blizzard has to somehow manage to get either the remaining classic or retail bases to migrate over. Lots of classic players will probably try it but then quickly quit either right after or right before hitting 60 just due to how much has been retail tuned while retail players are more likely to stick around but then the game would just much faster lose all the little aspects of classic it has. A jarring way to go about things.
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>>747524596
why did you reply to yourself
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>>747524802
We'll find out!
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>>747523725
>Cultivation: Grow bonus herbs that don’t require herbalism to gather
Designated botting race.
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>>747522558
controllers are for consolebabs
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>>747522583
how much is it to play classic+ without this? i dont care about 'elves but extra gay'. they would have had me by the balls if it was ogres though
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>>747524735
>>747524754
thrill of adventure alone will send bots to the moon
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>>747524660
Guaranteed. Modern Blizz is a skinwalker wearing it's shell, even in Reforged all the footman are now suddenly nogs. (That, or the shading is so bad they look like nogs) The trailer really summarizes it, it's retail+. Even the dwarf is a fag.
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since ive had no reason to play retail and haven't played since classic tbc this just gives me another excuse to suck blizzard cock again
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>>747524804
it will be successful because wow addicts are mindraped manchildren who will try out any new garbage blizzard shits out and convince themselves every single time it will somehow end differently
it will be dead within a year though
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>>747524726
All Orcs are shamanistic in their religious practices regardless of Class, meaning they have deep respect for the elements. Being a Warlock is in direct opposition to that belief, manipulating the elements and forcing them to do your bidding.

Shaman Fire Elemental is basically the Shaman petitioning the elements through worship to bestow upon him a guardian. Warlock Demons meanwhile is the Warlock enslaving a Demon into servitude and saying you belong to me now bitch.

Ergo, Orc Warlocks make zero sense. Priests as well because they would have to abandon the Elements to serve the Light. Warlock isn't fine because that's messing with demons and doesn't requires the Orc to abandon and betray the Elements to summon Demons.
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>>747524020
>makes less sense than Night Elf Warlock
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>>747524083
Yeah, but the player base is driven by a minmax streamer culture.
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>>747524801
>So how do they still justify the monthly subscription to their customers?
Paying a subscription keeps many third worlders away.
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>>747524607
>they had a developer who personally used Linux and would always make sure the game worked fine on WINE.
based
>Why not just make it official?
true, it even works on Mac.. so..
Do you think I can count on Blizzard not fucking it up last minute and banning Linux for no reason? I really, really don't want to fucking dualboot for WoW. I know... it worked all the time, but I'm a bit afraid. Were there ever major issues with Linux?
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>>747524726
Warlocks do practice arcane magic, enslaving demons is the main thing but where do you think they get fire magic from?
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>>747524929
orc warlocks have been a thing since warcraft 1 though
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>>747524239
bodied that tranny tourist freak
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>>747524020
Tell me you don't play the game without telling me you don't play the game.
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>>747524106
>quick and the dead doesn't say it doesn't work in BGs
seems kinda OP
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>>747524912
>retail-
ftfy
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>>747524831
All they have to do is have the mounts / mogs / pets you earn on Forever be usable on Retail, that's enough to get to the collectors to play. They couldn't do it on regular classic because people would throw a bitch fit about it.
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>>747524983
>but where do you think they get fire magic from?
in cannon its
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Xoroth
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>Game designed by feminists and trannies who got their gamer "degree" through identity politics
>None of them have played a game in their lives, let alone classic WoW
>They hate gamers and everything they stand for
So what exactly makes you guys think the game will be good? Are you just copying Asmongold's opinion or something?
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>>747522206
did they add 10 button rotations and bing bing wahoos on your ui that tell you when to cast a specific spell?
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>>747524802
just go ahead and delete this
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>WC3 team actually cares about the game
>They're all Korean millennials
>Classic+ team made the most raped garbage we've seen since SHADOWLANDS
>They're all white women and white faggots who look 50+
I hope /vpol/ will remember this the next time they cry about the make up of a dev team.
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>>747524914
based
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>>747523725
troll warlocks gonna be hard to kill
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>>747525185
>Are you just copying Asmongold's opinion or something?
Are you just one of those insufferable niggers that go against anything that's remotely popular?
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i need to know how quick leveling will be and how much can be solo'd with every class
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>>747524624
calling you back to get buckbroken by Mistress Dommy Mommy Asha Sharma's big blue draenei xxxl strapon so hard that the back of your throat will be the deeprun tram's new third stop

and I ain't your "bro", pal.
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>>747525201
Nope, still one button over and over again from level 1 to level 60, just how Classic players love it.
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>>747525185
>no source
>no source
>no source
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>>747524020
UD Paladins make sense.
It's just that they're absurdly strong-willed.
Imagine that every time you prayed to Jesus, an angel would personally come down and beat the shit out of you and break your kneecaps and you still choose to continue praying to Jesus afterwards.
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are they gonna mention how loot will be handled?
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>undead paladins for WC3

KINO
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>>747525307
>spirit tap and rapid regeneration
fug they're topping the healing charts :DDDDD
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>>747525185
>Are you just copying Asmongold's opinion or something?
>he says as he's copying Asmongold's opinion
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I'm not resubbing unless there's a boob slider.
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>>747525394
it's personal loot with trading disabled in instances
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>>747522206
Why would anyone give a shit about anything Blizzard shits out in 2026?
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>>747525394
>are they gonna mention how loot will be handled?
wdym?
Nothing's gonna change.
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>Classic but fake and gay
Can't say I'm surprised.
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>>747525324
>Are you just one of those insufferable niggers that go against anything that's remotely popular?
My default position is "this game sucks until proven otherwise," and so far, WoW Forever hasn't done anything to change my mind. My wallet doesn't open that easily
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>>747525470
>>747525462
WHO DO I BELIEVE
>>747525487
I believe this guy emphatically
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>>747522206
>look at trailer
>oh so Blizz are doing their own classic+, that explains why they nuked all the p servers this year
>it's still sub based and you need to buy it
>and it has a cash shop
Oy vey...
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Skyborne is the only lame part, it looks like a retail race. Everything else looks like exactly what I wanted. Hopefully they'll add a new race or two that actually fits with the vanilla aesthetic later.
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>>747525414
>>747525462
cool sounds good to me
i wonder how many times ill get denied spots because they already have too many undead paladins
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>>747524660
Did the original game even have a 1000 quests? This seems like leveling will be a gay treadmill or forgettable quests to sell boosts like they did in cata.
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>>747524929
>>747524983

Warlock fire comes from Fel Magic it has nothing to do with the Fire Elementals of Azeroth. Like I said an Orc Warlock can both worship the elements and summon demons and use Fel Fire. An Orc Mage however CANNOT both worship the elements and go around enslaving elementals and manipulating elemental magic. The class is an aberration for the Orc race it has nothing to do with their intelligence or aptitude for magic. It straight up goes completely against their overall religious beliefs as a species. Your character is canonically 18+ years old when you start the game and select a class. Which means as an Orc you had an entire childhood and adolescence of worshipping the elements.

Orc Warlocks are relegated to the slums of Orgrimmar because of how little respect other Orcs have for them. Orc Mages meanwhile would be beheaded and put up on pikes out near the Zeppelin station if Nu-Blizz cared about the lore like they should.
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>>747524890
Dont have to pay anything but a sub to play it
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Wonder how long the leveling will take. Hopefully it's a long time.
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>>747522583
I thought this was only for the beta. It's a bullshit move either way.
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>>747525414
>lore breaking class added to not one but TWO games
Undead paladins are death knights, how does this make sense?
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>>747525582
But they're okay with the trolls doing it?
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>>747525637
Should be the same, unless you want to have zero fun and start doing power leveling tactics.
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>>747522206
>>747519350
Saying "Classic WoW Plus" is the same as saying "Beef Wellington topped with diarrhea". No one wants DEI foidslop influences in their perfect old world kino game
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>>747525578
there were about 800 real quests per faction and another 800 "talk to this guy a few meters away" quests
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WHO THE FUCK ASKED FOR THIS???
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>>747525735
>perfect game
>all but one of the classes just push 1 over and over again
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>>747525735
i do
>>747525805
i did
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>>747525663
Undead priests are priests. Why wouldn't undead paladins be paladins?
Arthas was damned the second he picked up Frostmourne, but could still cast Holy Light while killing Malganis, How do you explain this?
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>>747524302
>Human hunters are going to fucking delete rogues. Good riddance.

I'm leaning on that as my main, just want to hunt down undead rogues, literally scumbag niggers of WoW
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>>747523621
>>747523859
Isn't this why the one button rotation was added
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>>747525462
I'll never understand why they allowed trading in the retail version of personal loot.
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>>747525805
Me, I'm pretty satisfied.
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>>747525805
Fans of the original rts games, tourist.
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>>747522884
wow ai slop on all these threads what the hell?
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>>747525805
Everyone who actually plays the game
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The neutral race blue elves seems like the most half-baked idea ever. Did all those fucking streamers that playtested it for Blizzard earlier this year really not push back on this?
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>>747525940
Those stupid faggot streamers don't care about anything but raiding and parsing.
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>>747525883
you are correct
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>>747525924
Classic WoW players are huge fans of AI, because the game has robbed them of their ability to think they turn to computers to think for them.
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>>747522884
whats crazy is that I look like that
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>>747525919
kekkk
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>>747522558
Who the fuck wants to play a video game with 1 hand only?
>hur dur to jerk my tiny pp
Sounds fucking dumb.
I feel like it takes more effort to fucking play a fucking game with 1 hand only.
What a fucking idiot.
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>>747525940
they need to take away the 'idea crayons' of whoever came up with blue elves for classic, the rest is passable.
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>>747525940
Ugly is the new beauty
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>>747525919
The blue skin with blonde hair actually looks cool
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>>747525940
>generic fantasy game has generic fantasy "undiscovered race"
I don't see the problem, aside from the price tag. I could see it being $5 max, but at that point I'd want more than one race.
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>>747523725
>undead paladin
lol, who do they pray to?
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>>747522206
PLAY OCTO WOW
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>>747523553
Thats not how Hunters work
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>>747525919
fucking kek
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>>747525940
It 100% feels like retail so it's annoying since this isn't supposed to go down the same road as retail. They're even charging $30 for it so it's the racial equivalent of a store mount.
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>>747524401
uhh actually races are a social construct and have no inherent slant one way or another, and the sooner you realise that the sooner we can #bebetter
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I'm going to take my skyborn elf(F) and RP getting knotted by tauren futas on Zephras Isle
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>>747526150
Paladins and priests don't pray to anyone in WoW, they pray to what is essentially the Force from Star Wars. They originally started training paladins to fight orcs and serve as what are essentially fantasy combat medics.
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>>747526159
I'm never gonna play a private server.
I don't want to be at the mercy of some fat fuck pussy admin who thinks he is the shit because he copied a whole fucking game and called it his own creation.
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I don't like the implications of the account wide perk system. Does that mean it will just be a bunch of endgame slop again?
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>>747525809
Better than retail and any other mmo to date. Take off your nostalgia glasses and imagine classic wow on an empty mind, not knowing anything about it. It is the perfect experience. Only comparable to old school RuneScape
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Did they mention any solo stuff?
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>>747526238
cows dont have knots
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They had so many classic Warcraft races to choose from and came up with gay blue elves. It's already looking rough.
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>>747526310
There's like 1000 new quests, if that's your thing.
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>>747526291
FFXI is better by an incomprehensibly large margin.
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>>747526253
thats not how it works in my headcanon
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>>747526291
without knowing anything i still immediately realize that Im pressing 1 button over and over again because I'm capable of reading tooltips
Retail shits all over your retarded millenial cookie clicker
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>>747525665
Yes, because they're an entirely different race and culture that they're in an alliance of convenience with. It's no different than Muslims and Christians occasionally teaming up and working together. Muslim soldiers would put up with their Christian allies eating Pork but they would absolutely stab one of their own for it. I'm sure Orcs find Troll Voodoo to also be weird as fuck and some kind of aberration considering how much they follow ancestor worship and believe in letting spirits rest. But the Horde is basically everyone putting up with everyone else because they're entirely on their own against a unified Alliance otherwise.
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>>747526348
name one new classic race that can fit through doors and has legs
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>>747522583
Is that class or race?
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>>747522837
>booba sliders
any ones with this in the base client, or are you just referring to the various model edits floating around that they won't ban?
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Ogres for Horde
High-elves for Alliance

thats all they had to do
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>>747526348
Could have finally introduced playable ogres. Now many years later when they finally have the technological knowledge and design knowledge of how that would work. Wasted opportunity. Shake my head my head.
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>>747526238
>>747526323
Why do you guys have such stupid fucking degenerate humor? It's not even funny it's just
>im gonna fucking explicitive SEX, RAPE, SEX, RAPE, explicitive explicitive
>neckbeard creep rapists all laugh cuz they are all built the same
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>>747526395
The orcs were re-initiated into shamanism by the trolls.
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>>747526357
>this is what brown skinned transsexuals actually believe
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>>747524802
>me not that kind of ogre!
>me am!
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>>747526357
I'm a big fat faggot tranny btw, not sure if that matters.
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>>747526357
I don't play japslop, I'm not American enough. Only kino for me
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>>747524105
Man the classic versions of all the expanded customization for races in CoA was so fucking great. What a fucking wet fart they're letting rip in exchange, it's baffling that they don't just steal what the pservers did well with shit like goblins and high elves or world items and are instead churning out this sludge with 30$ blue elves
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>>747526159
I'll start playing when they add good content over Shenna's pile of shit.
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>>747526273
>bunch of endgame slop again
Raidlogging is always the final state of WoW. I have a hard time imagining how they're going to handle that for a perma level 60 basis.
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>>747526492
>>747526541
11, not 14. 14 is tranny shit because it's a clone of WoW which is tranny shit, you can not build a stable house on poor foundation.
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>>747525940
It makes sense since it's very cheap and guaranteed to make money from the usual suspects. And they'll continue dangling the more interesting races in your face like a carrot
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>>747526585
They are both dogshit, Anal Trantasy troon.
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>>747526272
Clinical psychiatrist here. Not talking shit, but you should get yourself checked.
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>>747526391
You really think more buttons equals better gameplay huh? I respect your opinion the same way I respect retarded people's right to live. Live and drink friend
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>>747526621
No shit your not a psychiatrist, you're dumb as fuck. can't form an argument.
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>>747526614
I have been kicked from WoW guilds on classic and in private servers for making fun of trannies. I can go on Horizon XI and everyone agrees with me.
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>>747526272
as opose to blizzards non existent mods which let thousands of bots run rampant daily with 0 acttion whatsoever?

for real i player turtle wow for 5 years and didnt see a single bot, not even once
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>>747526621
That's literally what a private server is, some faggot fat ugly rapist redditor, copy pastes an original game and adds shitty shit to it, slaps a shit name on it, and calls it his own creation.

Kill yourself gook faggot
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>>747526573
every new expansion adds a reputation grind that you need to finish to enter the raids for that expansion

the reputation grind is essentially just leveling again
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>>747526412
If EQ could add races that can't fit through doors, then so can Classic+. You get noggerniggers at level 45 anyways.
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You just have to look at retail's race popularity to understand why they added pseudo blood elves for both factions.

Hopefully we're gonna get the more requested races in the future.
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>>747526640
I think actual depth means better gameplay you retarded shitskin
skill expression matters
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>>747526709
I dont like bots or private servers
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>>747526708
>b-b-b-but but but *anecdotal troon faggotry*
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>>747522583
>class
AI generated article?
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>>747522206
It looks like nothing to do with what anyone wanted from classic plus.
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>>747526421
I think its an upcoming RP server thats adding sliders for everything. Even goblin noses. No doubt itll end up in other servers hands at some point.
also tfw no tauren gf
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>>747523553
Watch Grizzly Man, faggot. A bear is a fucking angry savage force of nature, I can't imagine the bear from the first trailer doing stupid shit like that. It's literally Disney candide trash
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>>747526354
turtle wow already did that and it was fucking free
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>>747526146
The problem is the same as the pandas. It homogenizes the two factions. They should have given the Alliance the blue elves and the Horde something else. But still something attractive so people would be willing to pay up. Maybe a race of evil vampire dudes that lived on the bottom of the giant floating sky island. And the two races each stuck to their respective half of the island until now.
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>>747526710
Kek, some private server modchad fucked this cuckold's girlfriend.
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>>747526273
how does one correlate to the other?
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>>747526783
Then go play Turtle WoW.
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i think everyone who played SoD could tell it will be shit

because as soon as i saw the gamedesign i knew it's like SoD, they made the game easier and more mindless while pretending there's actual depth, but in reality you are just showered in gear upgrades every 2min while you level at increased speed, and get showered with retail abilities to make everything even easier
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>>747526820
Kek, i said kek am i a 4channer yet?

>No argument btw
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>>747526778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4E9yrGczbk
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>>747522583
I’m going to roll a sexy as fuck Sky elf and a bunch of you zoomers will give me free gold and rolls because most of the player base is incels
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too much gay disney
not enough hot nightelf
will play for a bit until i get bored
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>>747526131
>>747526146
True. I don't get why people are mad.
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>>747526820
You're a fat bald admin of a shitty low pop private server aren'tcha?
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>>747526876
>seething Redditspacing
Yup, you're mad as fuck.
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>>747526742
There's skill expression in classic, you probably never got past level 10 you troon zoomer, got the attention span of a fucking earthworm
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>>747526354
lol, even epoch did that
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>>747526872
>they made the game easier
Ayo, this nigga thinks Classic is hard.
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>>747526843
blizzard sued them to close it retard
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>>747526872
b-but theres 1000 new quests!! its going to be so good and different and not all like SoD!
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>>747523431
Bears do that tho lol
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>>747526820
You made them SQUEAL, king.
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>>747526843
Blizzard shut it down a few months ago.
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>>747522206
did they finally ban addons for this shit?
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>>747526932
>insanely specific projection
Turn on your monitor.
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>>747522206
That logo looks irrationally gay
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>>747526924
man i miss the old horde, we are never going to have that brutality ever again
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>>747523553
Because that shit doesn't jive with the feel of the original cinematic where that dwarf and bear is from. The entire point is continuing vanilla, so the tone of the cinematic should be consistent with the original
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>>747526924
>fag gets replaced by fantasy creatures
How is this not a good thing?
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>>747526945
Then ask them for the source code and play it yourself instead of seething in a thread you entered knowing you wouldn't like its content.
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>>747526945
Good, faggot. Cry, faggot. FUCK private servers you're a faggot, you didn't create anything. Cunt
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>>747524804
it doesn't mean anything at all
they are releasing a new raid 4 weeks after launch. so vertical item level progression is still going to matter.
they are having "level up faster for alts" talents in the game
there's probably going to be account buffs to encourage leveling alts to stretch out the "horizontal content".
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>>747524106
>kill coa and turtle for your own classic+
>give nothing new except backporting the guild rep system... but without guild rep
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>>747527020
Its a beautiful thing.
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>See reveal
>Okay, passable attempt I guess
>I like that they are actually trying to make the game an actual RPG with a permanent level cap which hints at horizontal prog
>The gay blue elves fucking suck though and should be removed from the game ASAP
>A friend of mine tells me to check the store
>You have to buy the gay elves for 30 bucks
>Store mount as bonus
>Store mog as bonus
>Store toy as bonus
>All its missing is the fucking gold token
>MFW
I don't think I have ever soured on a game this quickly and they haven't even actually shown any of the new content yet
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>>747526876
Kek instead of lol actually comes from Blizzard games.
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>>747527020
heavy metal was always gay and that was a good thing
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>>747527015
How's Him's hair revival working for you fat ass?
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>>747526939
>There's skill expression in classic
lmao no
theres a reason shitters prefer classic
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>>747526989
Torta just changed the name and hosted it again.
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>>747522206
The ONLY good thing about this is that they nuked tranny private servers before releasing it.
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>>747527082
This but unironically. Look at Rob Halford, the prince of metal.
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back in my day everyone had the opportunity to play the demo
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>>747526872
Man you're just an ESL retard too stupid to understand why SoD was bad shut the fuck up
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>>747527115
Where is it now?
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>>747526898
Yeah he's not doing the stupid moves he does in the blizz Disney trailer ain't he?
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>>747527068
Yea but only indians and gooks and uncs say it now to try to look like an edgy 4channer
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>>747527057
wow token will def be in within at least a year
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>make classic+ for people who want to get away from retail
>it speedruns all of the shit retail did
motherfucker it took like a decade or more for retail to cram in unfitting and out of place bright elf recolors. "forever" is starting out with it, and other shit that was gradually added to retail over the years, turning it to shit
as a branch of wow goes, it has a headstart on being pozzed out of its mind, rather than the opposite
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>>747527039
Your losing faggot. Your little reboot won't last a year and your retail is closing which is why blizzard is moving away from it.
kys nigger
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>>747527140
>Look at literally just ONE (1) guy out of thousands of musicians
lol
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i cant go back to the same tired boring classes with the same tired boring flaws after playing ascension, frankly
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why they keep yapping about wanting to tell stories and then lock them all behind raids???
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>>747527163
Ravencraft, though it has pretty bad reputation because of drama.
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>>747527105
>classic leveling
>you are weak and pathetic and everything is out to kill you
>classic raiding
>chill with your friends don't have to try hard

>retail leveling
>barely a game anymore, run around in godmode while transexuals tell you about their feelings
>retail raiding
>need to be the best player in the world to be good enough to fail miserably at the highest level
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>>747527141
No, they had an even more retarded system. You had to apply to the beta, then they could chose your account from a lottery. That's why the meta back then was to create a new Blizzard account for every game you bought. That way you'd maximize your chances of getting in to the beta.
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>>747526952
>Quests made by the team who made Dragonflight, TWW and Midnight.
Oh boy, I can't wait.
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>>747527256
This, CoA classes were good but even classless was better
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>>747527220
>WAAAAAHHHHHHH
>I STOLE FROM A COMPANY AND TRIED TO ACT LIKE I MADE IT MYSELF
>WAAAAAAHHHH
>A PRIVATE WOW SERVER IS THE ONLY WAY I CAN OVERPOWER PEOPLE
>WAAAAAAHHHH
>NO ONE IS JOINING MY PRIVATE SERVER GUESS ILL BEG FOR PEOPLE TO JOIN OR ADD BOTS
>WAAAAAHHHHH
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>>747522976
That faggy whisp saved the Dorf from being ganked by a Tauren
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>>747527221
Metal musicians dress up in leather harnesses and face paint and go up on stage to scream and cry.
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>>747522206
>even the logo looks gay
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>>747527256
Ascension was stupid as fuck, literally retail classes.
And now it's gone forever, HAHA.
Turtle WoW is the only private server I respect faggot
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>>747527256
This game is going to end up pleasing nobody for this reason. It's not going to be modern enough for the zoomers and it won't be true enough to the original to make the oldfags happy.
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Uhh 10 man raids are back into the game, how come there isn’t bigger hype?!?!?!
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>>747527421
Most dungeons in classic WoW were 10 man raids technically, they never left.
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>>747527316
>classic leveling
>you are weak and pathetic and everything is out to kill you
>classic raiding
>chill with your friends don't have to try hard
Well put, this is the reason why I quitting retail and getting back into Classic.
I just can't be arsed to try hard as much as I have to in retail, playing with sweats making every raid a fucking chore.
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>what a random guy working from a basement can do without being paid jack shit
https://youtu.be/E7ZEbEcpcvE
>what the "professionals" at blizzard can do for their vaunted classic+
"sorry, the best I can do is another blood elf recolor"
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>>747525439
I never understood the appeal of a boob slider. Doesn't everyone just max that shit out? Could skip a lot of work and just make the tits big by default
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>>747527316
weak and pathetic and theres no skill expression
You already admitted its mindless, why are you even arguing?
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>>747527308
You weren't kidding. They basically just copy-pasted it. But it looks like they removed the radio, which was one of my favorite parts.
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>>747527057
The bullshit rumor that floated around 4chins a few weeks ago about how WoW was going to be released as a singleplayer offline game would unironically have been much better than whatever the fuck this is.

The only way for Blizzard to save WoW at this point is to start whoring the IP out to community creators just like NW1/2 did with it's multiplayer stuff, this reveal only made it more obvious that everyone working at Blizz deserves to be destitute and homeless.
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>>747527410
you can say whatever you want, at least it was something NEW and DIFFERENT after 25 fucking years of the same old shit with the same problems. hurrr durrr muh hybrid tax, hurr durr muh rogue/warrior meta. hurr durr muh priest healer only meta. blah fucking blah
meanwhile in coa you had original classes that had, dare i say it, sovl. even if they were flawed and pvp was a fucking mess

i cant go back to the originals after that
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>>747522583
It's not a humiliation ritual if participation is totally voluntary. They debase themselves on their own.
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>>747527105
Right so people who prefer deliberate progression, separate excellence in different fields and no participation trophies are shitters.
Enjoy your tranny god mode like that other guy said
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Can someone please tell me why "horizontal progression" is exciting for Classic Cletuses when that has literally been a thing since Legion? Your Artifact Weapon? Your Heart of Azeroth? Your Covenant crap? Lmfao

This feels less like Classic+ and honestly more like BfA
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the name just makes me think its going to be skyrim style radiant quests
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>>747527384
You seems very knowledgeable about that genre you pretend to hate
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>>747527532
>hurrr durrr muh hybrid tax, hurr durr muh rogue/warrior meta. hurr durr muh priest healer only meta. blah fucking blah
OKAY AND WHAT IS ASCENSION BASICALLY?
>You can make any thing you want dude!!! Yea!!!
>Okay i make a warrior with mage spells and rogue spells
>Damn thats op
>everyone doing that now
What the fuck are you talking dumb ass
CLASSES ARE CLASSES FOR A REASON
YOU EITHER WANT A ROLE, OR YOU JUST WANT TO BE EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME
FUCK OFFFFFF
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>ITT
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>>747525805
>>747525919
reddit (target audience) is not happy at all with this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1wemvh0/the_fact_blizzard_gave_us_skyborne_as_a_neutral/
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>>747527532
All of the Conquest of Azeroth classes played the damn same. Generate some flavor of combo points, and then spend them on other abilities. The excruciating amount of AI generated shit didn't help.
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>>747527669
that's right
no negativity in the dojo
praise blizzard or fuck off
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>>747527669
damage control jeet
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>>747527491
>Sponsorship Highlight on the boobslider part
lol
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who cares about this shit when pochie reborn is on the way
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>>747524106
><shit that makes game easier, shit that makes you have to spend less time playing>
>random shit stolen straight from turtle, but half assed and made worse in every way

man, it's exactly SoD. they are just looking for ways to remove friction from the world as much as possible. it's just sad, because i really wanted to have a game i could sink a few months into.

blizz just doesn't understand why people like classic wow.
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>>747527353
This looks like a molded from RE7 in a straightjacket
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>>747527651
Used to like it when I was a kid, but it's so much worse than just regular rock music.
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>>747527469
>let me just post some shit that isn't true at all
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All they had to do was copy and paste turtle and ascension, how the fuck did they managed to fuck it up so hard?!?!
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>>747527574
That wasn't horizontal progression that was vertical progression disconnected from everything else so Blizzard could easily dumpster it at the end of the expansion and replace it with the next one.
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>>747527669
I like Warcraft tho
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JWU. What's this game's big draw?
Everything I read seems to be shrug worthy.
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>>747527410
>the server run by the subhuman russians who got caught personally colluding with the chink bots and pay2win fags
>respect
lol
lmao even
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>747527716
>747527719
Seething third worlders that can't afford a subscription
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Played classic in 2020 when it first released and was fun
Everything afterwards has been complete slop riding in its wake
Good luck lads
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>>747527691
no they didnt you idiot, stormbringer didnt play like pyro, templar didnt play like guardian, ranger didnt play like venomancer; they ALL had differences and thats why people loved it so much

>>747527658
in case its not 100% obvious im not TALKING about the classless servers, you blithering idiot. im talking about the 21 new and original classes from coa ascension
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>>747527057
There are also greyed out UI elements of the transmog store in it.
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>>747527826
>lol i bring up the people behind the thing you like, and what they did to make it look bad
yea idgaf about who amde turtle wow dumb fucking idiot
i fucking play the fucking video game you dumb bitch
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>>747527557
>no participation trophies
insane you think that classic isnt a participation trophy
youre truly mindfucked, you realize every single piece of content in vanilla is a joke right?
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>>747527469
>irrelevant pedantry
yep it's a wow thread
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>>747527826
They weren't even Russians, they were Americans pretending to be Russian, that's how Blizz got them so fast.
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>Survival is melee hunter but Mongoose bite is still flat damage meaning the 31 talent point will do shit all scaling damage
Sasuga blizzard
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Why do people care about the level cap staying at 60?
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>>747527818
>What's this game's big draw?
Recency bias and new is good.. but not too new that would be bad
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>>747522991
Great, the worst class in the game will be available to degenerate furry larpers.
>tank
>with no weapon
>DPS
>with no DPS
>healer
>with no ress
druids are the worst wow classic players, people meme on huntards but the real tards are druids.
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>>747527057
>I hate these elves they should be removed from the game
>What do you mean I have to pay $30 for the elves I want them for free???!??!?! >:O
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>>747527483
good players arent sweating their ass off, have you tried not sucking?
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I love WoW and the community!
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the name wow forever is so fucking gay and bad. not one single person could come up with a better name? it will age like absolute shit. i actually think the name alone has doomed the entire project and 5 years from now the whole thing is going to become a punch line like the warcraft movie. which had equally loft goals, planning to be an MCU style franchise and even got its own tie in expansion (WoD) to promote it before bombing horribly.
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>>747523382
>2004: Bro, you wanna play World of Warcraft!? We got hot elves, beastly orcs, wise tauren, tough dwarves and human magicians duking it out! The world is full of danger and there's a war to be fought. Come on!
>2026: Bro, you wanna play world of warcraft? man... imagine walking through a cool fantasy field with glowing flowers slowly with a funny bear falling over himself! Then you go to the epic city to fight a holy zombie! There's so much epic adventure to be had, and there's blue elves too...
Yeah I wonder why this cinematic was conspidered retarded and disappointing, one is basically an action montage that draws you in and gives you the release all in one, the other is basically just coddling you constantly.
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remember when blizzard made good games ?
I recond the last really good blizzard game was wings of liberty, that was back when scarlet was hot, it has been downhill from there....
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>>747527772
Fuck off private server noob bitch subhuman
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>>747527835
how come the subscription price doesn't stop thirdies from botting and making a living by selling gold?
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Look how happy the WoW community is discussing their favorite video game! Makes me happy!
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>>747527961
Levling beyond that will open the gates ridiculous damage and healing numbers.
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>>747527961
People are just skeptical
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Was the skyborne elf at the end of the trailer an alternative Azshara where the highborne went into the sky instead of the sea?
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>>747528008
>false advertising 2004 is better than false advertisiding 2026
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>>747528041
It stops MOST of them believe me, the smarter ones manage to make a living out of them.
You just thank God everyday that you don't have to play with most of the third world.
Just try some basic graphics free game to see what I mean.
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>>747528064
You already do ridiculous damage and healing at 60 in full Naxx gear.
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>>747528023
man, i remember watching StarCraft 2 tournaments during the wol days, shit was so good
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>>747527410
Ascension devs realized that true 2004 Classic Feel (tm) can be only achieved by creation of the unknown, unexplored and rich world, and not masturbation on the same old talent trees. This included secrets in the world, revamped raids and completely new, unsolved classes. And they actually suceeded - these few months felt like im almost in 2004. It all felt interesting and fun to explore as if it's a new game.
WoW Forever though is an actual Retail Minus - same old shit, people will solve every new build during beta and sense of novelty will only be provided by one and done 3 new zones.
This is not Classic Plus. It's dogshit.
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>>747527885
You sound very upset for someone who 'just plays the game'. Stay mad subhuman.
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>People hate Shadowlands
>People are excited for Classic+ with Shadowlands race
Make it Make sense.
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>>747523828
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>>747527818
classic+
but you need to pay for it and there's 3 tiers
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>>747528085
>game is about going on adventures to dangerous places with an artstyle by a guy who does metal album covers and fighting the enemy faction that you've had blood feuds with for the last 3 games
don't see how the 2004 advertising is wrong, it's literally what happens in the game more often than not, maybe except fighting infernals
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The new campaign is fun.
Can you use the DE graphics in custom campaigns?
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>>747522341
classic+retail=?
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>>747528061
look what happens when people can express their honest opinion without getting le hecking downvooted to the ground
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why did they reduce every stat down to mastery/crit/vers/haste in retail

did anyone ever complain there were too many stats in wotlk/tbc?
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>>747528085
The one in 2004 was accurate though? You had warlock, night elf druids, dwarf hunters, journeying through the world, OP mages fucking shit up, pvp, an actual representation of what exploring the world of Warcraft would be like on foot
And the Classic+ trailer starts with hollow nostalgia, continues with fagy 'soft adventure', then ends with lorerape elves so it perfect represents nuWoW
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>>747528039
>calls him a noob
>but needs 10 people for deadmines
do blizzgoyim really?
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>Turtle WoW is the only good private server ever. Period.
>You will play classic wow + forever
>You will also play every other version
>Or you will play a shittier game like gacha or something anime esque or something bald fat men enjoy
>It will live longer than you will
World of Warcraft Forever
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Concerning
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I liked everything except for the dumb blue elves
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>>747528208
World of Warcraft Forever
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>>747528215
reddit is shitting on classic +
the only ones praising it are streamers paid to be at blizzcon
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>>747528271
would
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>>747528271
whats crazy is that I look like that
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>>747528174
I can't. This is genuinely deranged. How the fuck did this happen?
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>>747528189
But then you play the actual game and you just get killed over and over again by a max level player and never engage in actual, strategic combat against the enemy team. And most of your time is spent in fire caves fighting fire dudes and dragons.
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>>747528284
Same.
I don't really mind since I won't be playing with them anyway.
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>>747527739
>blizz just doesn't understand why people like classic wow.
You could just as easily say that they don't understand why anyone likes their games because that is even more true

>Blizzard made Overwatch
>They change it up until the point where they kill it with all of the retarded decisions they made
>Blizzard made Diablo 2
>They fuck it up with D3/4/immortal and probably 5, the only people who seems to understand D2 is a dev that have never touched an RPG before and that were sourced specifically so that they could cheaply make D2R
>Blizzard made Starcraft 2
>They turn it into a coop top down RPG with RTS elements, completely missing the point of the original versions of the game
>Blizzard made WoW
>We are now in this thread

Blizzard are just horrendously shit at game design, they have NEVER made a good game on their own as every single one of their successful games were all just clones of other and sometimes better games/IPs. Arguably the only good games they have ever made on their own were WC3/TFT and WoW vanilla as every other game were just using someone elses homework.
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>>747528249
and of everything to remove, why keep vers
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>>747528271
Oh my
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World of Warcraft Forever
World of Warcraft Forever
World of Warcraft Forever
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>>747528334
That's odd because I remember going around Stranglethorn fighting loads of enemy faction people at my own level.
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So who really to blame for this shit? DEI, hardcore raiders or dad gamers?
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I WILL be the first human to breed a sky elf when they come down from the clouds
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>>747528391
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>>747528398
im not coming down
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i think im going to play wow for the first time (i am a millennial) for this. Just to say i played it. I feel like i've already played it just through osmosis though like ive already seen the sopranos through tiktok reels and /tv/ memes.
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The good news is if you're mad you can always just do classic era and anniversary servers
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>>747528292
>reddit is shitting on classic +
>This nigger still think Reddit is relevant in the big 26
Also
>Cringe website wars in 26
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>>747528260
>needs 40 people for onyxia
>doesn't do it 10 man for more gear
see how this goes? you always had the freedom to do this content in multiple sizes until they started forcing a few 5 man caps late into original vanilla
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>>747528249
Yes, a lot of people have complained about stats being so complex that you need to use a simulator, and the stat changes haven't made that go away.
Also, the speed stat frequently broke the game so they really wanted to get rid of that.
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>>747528160
You sound stupid. Make an argument.
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>forever
people will make fun of the name once this flops after release won't they
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>>747528441
>once this flops
Riiiiiight because World of Warcraft has never been the Top MMO since fucking 2000 and 1
RETARD ALERT!!!!!
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>>747528383
>see enemy player fighting a tiger
>attack him so now he has to fight the tiger and you at the same time
I don't recall that being in the cinematic.
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>>747528427
ngl those of us who care about the game are rightly dooming & skeptical, but I think it will be fun for you as a first timer with no investment. Enjoy anon, what race/class you going to go?
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are they going to poll changes?
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>>747528340
This. I'll just get an addon that autoignores blue elves and it's fine.
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imagine getting your hopes up with nu-blizzard

lmao
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>>747527997
>People are forced to pay for the gay babyblue elves
>This means that Blizzard will NEVER remove or even change them in any meaningful way as that would mean that people could get pissed off at buying them in the first place
Your a retarded ape nigger if you don't see just how much this fucks up their spiel about how they are "listening to feedback"
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>>747523828
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im playing a blue elf druid and none of you can stop me
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>>747528527
Anon, did you not say that you never engage in strategic combat against the enemy? Isn't attacking the enemy while they are distracted something strategic? Could it be that you are a retarded faggot perhaps?
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>>747528434
except for the fact that you dont have nearly enough dps as a 10 man to bear her enrage timer
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>>747528064
They are going to be adding new dungeons and raids so the numbers are going to keep going up with new gear. Levels really only affect your talents
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I see pretty much exactly everything I wanted which was an expanded azeroth with 60 cap extra dungeons, better profs, expanded zones. I am worried that it could be pozzed obviously
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>>747528551
>nu-blizzard
>I SAID A BUZZ WORD!!!!!!!!!
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what server should I play on while waiting for classic+ launch? planning to go in blind so not playing beta
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>>747522583
I'm not a high elf fag and have openly mocked and bullied them for years but at this point it feels like even blizzard is actively fucking with them now
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>>747527308
I heard that it was run by the capy team, the chinese branch of turtle wow that operated alongside the original server
>distributed the client with chinese localization files when they aren't included by default
>left the moonwhisper coast farewell party active at server launch, which had vendors that sold endgame consumables for insanely cheap, an amateur move, meaning it's not likely to have original devs
>octo wow, an anonymity focused turtle clone, is currently being DDOSed by chinese, SEA, and indian IPs after Ravencraft's launch, an underhanded, gay move the chinese would totally do
Haven't seen anything pointing to shenna (aka torta) being involved. it's possible, but capy was always a different team, and it's more likely they're trying to muscle in on the non-chinese market now that the original turtle wow is out of the picture
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>>747528537
>thinking nu Blizzard would ever take community feedback directly
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>>747528561
Why didn't they remove blood elves and draenei? People hated blood elves and draenei when TBC came out.
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>>747528614
uh oh melty
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>>747528603
oh it will
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>>747528174
>People are excited for Classic+ with Shadowlands race
Shit. Gulpers. Anon.
Shitgulpers are "excited". They'd be excited regardless, because all they do is consoom product.
Back in Shadowlands, there remained a few players who still had some standards, who spoke out against Shadowlands and then left.
What remains now is the unconditional bootlickers. They'd praise Shadowlands if it came out today.
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>>747528537
Hopefully not. I trust the community even less than nu-devs.
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>>747528579
I won't, but good for you.
You're making "people" ITT that would shit on this game anyway extremely mad by doing so.
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I'll give it a go, could be fun. MMOs usually are until the gearing process is done. Will probably be a shadowpriest or dps war.
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>>747528652
>uh oh melty
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>>747522206
This is it; the WoW you will be playing for the rest of your lives.
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I'm calling it now, WoW: Forever is going to install under the retail client. Meaning you'll be forced to hit Play in the B.Net Launcher under the Retail tab instead of the Classic tab every time you log in. The ultimate humiliation ritual for nillers and the perfect revenge for /our guy/ Jay Allen.
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>>747528271
blizzard must be bleeding talent, the presenters were like a make-a-wish gathering of special needs kids, even the fanboy blizz crow was silent because of second hand embarrasment, everybody had the same AI generated basic bitch bacstory to tell on stage........ "When i was 12 I grinded in ......"
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>>747528595
My guild literally did 10 man Ony splits in Classic 2019 phase 1. I can believe Alliancesissies don't have enough dps to do it though.
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>>747528579
Well yeh, I aint gonna play that shit lmao.
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>>747522867
pochie… the wailing caverns were amazing
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>>747528595
onyxia doesn't have an enrage timer
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Remember, they'd need to completely rework raiding and PvP, along with class balance, which they have no hope of ever getting right
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>>747528271
>wowfags actually think this old childless wine aunt can make good content
oh no no no hahaahah
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>>747528697
>>747528619
>>747528603
>>747528579
>>747528805
Stop fucking styping these sentences that are directed to no one, you look like a fucking try hard trying to troll
>DUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHH
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>>747522206
>Oh boy, I wish that the same retards who ruined the game enough to make me want a redo of the game to then be in charge of that redo of the game.

How does any of this make sense?
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>>747528828
She did wonders for Everquest and it went to shit after she left.
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>>747528724
melty seething
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>>747528651
I just fucking told you nigga, learn to fucking read
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>>747528839
didn't ask mr newfag
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>>747528724
>blizzard's paid bot hype enforcement unit unironically s o y jakposts
wow, there is no low blizzard won't stop to
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>>747528526
>sneeason of discovery
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>>747528760
yeah its almost like locking berserk behind faction requirements is a retarded decision huh
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>>747525240
They already knew.
That old meme about game dev decline over the years compared the black feminist tranny present to the white and asian past.
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>>747528839
you have fucking AUTISM
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This is what we're getting.
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>>747528839
>in a thread
>"WHY ARE PEOPLE POSTING STUFF??"
what level of schizo is this?
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I just want to play the game alone and level a bunch of alts, single player wow when?
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I know nobody cares but subscription based games are on their way out. Nobody will play this shit except for 35-50 yr old men. RuneScape is already dying off because the game isn't good enough to warrant the price. When we have access to Path of Exile 2 for free it's just not even close.
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>>747528908
stop fucking reply to me you retarded monkey
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>>747528271
>trying to copy even ff14 developer cosplays
Grim
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>>747523201
sod trannies asked for this*
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>>747528350
>Blizzard are just horrendously shit at game design, they have NEVER made a good game on their own as every single one of their successful games were all just clones of other and sometimes better games/IPs
that's a good point. but i do think that they used to be a legit home for legit talent at some point, nowdays though it's just another microsoft studio, just a bit bigger, with the same sort of corporate baggage and erosion of workplace culture it causes.

i think if they somehow managed to retain their culture (big fucking if, since by the looks of it, not even rockstar managed to retain theirs through the worst of the 2020s) they might still be producing decent games. i do think overwatch 2016 was great, having played it thru most of ow1 and early ow2, but the current state of the game is just like a shitty knockoff of marvel rivals, down to the gacha coomer designs to appease chinese audiences
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>>747528792
im speaking colloquially try to keep up
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>>747524724
hahhahahah
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>>747528919
Cringe
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>>747528885
lolololol undead faggot rogues get what they fucking deserve
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>>747528923
>>747528914
Because this is a thread, and when you just type a sentence directed to no one, it's the same as yelling in an auditorium so EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU
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>>747528537
they said they would use community feedback and hinted at polls but who knows
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>>747528729
It's under its own tab. The point is that it's its own thing. "Classic+" already exists, it's Hardcore.
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Is the physical $150 Collector Edition actually collectable or are they going to make it for years to come... Cant find any information on quantity.
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>>747522206
You know... I was excited for a bit... watching Xaryu's stream, reading abilities, talents and thinking what character to play... but the magic's gone. I think i'll just close the door on wow for good.
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>>747528938
Blizzard can't keep paying for all the women who do nothing if they don't keep draining their customers every month
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>>747528939
you know im right youre just mad that i am
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>>747529083
same. I got caught up a bit on the hype during the livestream but now that ive had time to sit down and process it, I dont think it does enough for me to want to go back
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>>747529074
Why would you care about owning the collector's edition of a game that's going to fail?
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>>747528603
It already is, retard
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>>747529083
Good. We need to get rid of eceleb watchers and streamers to even begin to repair the damage.
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THIS JUST IN GAVIN NEWSOM HAS DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY IN ANAHEIM CALIFORNIA AND IT IS NOW A DISASTER ZONE, HE'S ASKING FOR NATIONAL GUARD TO BE BROUGHT IN AND FEDERAL FUNDING TO FIX THE DISASTER AND FUND A NEW CLASSIC+
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>>747529230
personally i think getting rid of misanthropic faggots like you would be even better
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>>747529083
>watching Xaryu's stream
watching ecelebs huh. sad
also lemme guess he was sucking it up and going "OOOMG POGGERS IM SO HYPE" in his shrill nerdy voice while it clearly betrayed all he ever said he wanted out of classic or classic+
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CoA design (actual authenthic Classic WoW experience):
>Thousands of items and secrets spread around the world
>Extended and new hubs, new questing zones
>21 new classes, completely unsolved
>revamped raids, unsolved

Result:
>You experience the fresh world, full of sense of wonder and adventure and figuring everything out


WoW Forever design (actual Retail Minus):
>Same solved classes
>Same solved raids
>Extended and new hubs
>Few new unsolved raids

Result:
>You experience mostly the same world, with the sense of wonder limited and no feel of adventure
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>>747527519
Its still in the game.
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>>747529332
Wanting to get rid of people who warp the game to be about something other than Warcraft = 'misanthropic faggot' huh? Ok man hurry up and leave like you said you're doing
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>>747529339
watching the streams is literally the only way to actually see what they changed nigger
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cant wait for the
>saaar join gdkp raid fast clear looking for 2 whales
spam
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>>747529003
wuv wamy
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>took WoW 13 years to add void elves
>takes "Classic+" 0
Ahead of the curve on the enshittening, huh.
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>>747529083
Same.
I bought into project camelot thinking itd be dark age of camelot inspired prewc3 content.
forgot microlizard was at the wheel until the announcement of biborne
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>>747529083
-1 person out of millions.

Cool story brah.
Some people are experiencing it for the first time dip shit, you are not the center of the universe bud.
Humbled? You should be.
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>>747529201
im not poor and i can resell them in a year if they are truly limited.
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>>747529201
Yo this one random ass no name guy said its gonna fail, so fuck man i guess uh wow is dead huh because of this random fuck
o well
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>>747529418
There's nothing Warcraft about your faggot blue sky elves
Yes you are a misanthropic faggot
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>>747530052
>There's nothing Warcraft about your faggot blue sky elves
ok tourist
go back to your eboyfriend's stream already
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>>747530052
Fucking kill yourself you toxic wanna be manly man, you're a fucking ugly ass bitch uncle.

Faggots faggots faggots run your fucking mind
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>>747529535
gdkps are banned, baka anon sempai
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>>747523542
I would have checked it out if it was literally nothing instead, but the fact that they added it means I'm never gonna touch it.
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>>747529858
do you see any demand for concord's collectors edition?
>>747529915
literally everyone is saying this game will fail
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>>747530259
you will never be a woman
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>>747530447
saying that while crying like a pmsing bitch is crazy bro
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They killed CoA... for blueberry elves???
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>>747530447
Trannies rape your thoughts every second
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>>747530387
>comparing apples to oranges
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>>747524713
just a teaser at the dragonblight temple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Xb5PhF5pc
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>>747530387
>literally everyone is saying this game will fail
>DUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>747527971
Every unviable spec is revamped, balance is a genuine DPS spec now. There's new raids and dungeons, surely they will make druid weapons.
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>>747527971
>Only mid combat revive in the game
>Bad
Stop posting.
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>>747530646
Imagine if they just made just dungeons and raids , and unlocked some areas for wow classic, wow classic could have been the oldschool runescape 2.0, but no they are lazy fucks who just rereleased their old shit with "no changes"..............
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>>747530865
Imagine if the whole game was just dungeons and raids , and they buffed every class so they could all parse.... wow....
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>>747530570
idk why all the secrecy when the story is never going to meet the expectations about closing the azeroth story in any meaningful way
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>>747530865
No Changes wasn't laziness on their part, there was massive community pressure for it before classic was even officially announced.
People wanted vanilla, and were worried blizzard would give them something other than vanilla.
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>>747530646
there already are feral druid weapons in classic
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>>747531110
>a small but very LOUD minority of warrior/rogue/mage mains worried that their precious donut steel classes wouldnt be blisteringly, absurdly overpowered for once and they might have to actually try rather than automatically outclass every other class just because of broken design and implementation screeched loud enough to get blizzard to do 'no changes' so they could keep their unearned and undeserved overpowered bullshit
fixed that for you, no need to thank me, just doing my part for the community
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>>747530865
no other mmo can be osrs simply due to how cheaply osrs can produce new content, coupled with the eye watering grind compared to nearly every other contemporary mmo. a wow version of this would need to effectively make level 60 something you get over the span of a year, not a month or two for the hardcore player.
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I miss my CoA /wpsg/ friends, bros...
I should bring back Mommylovesu as a warrior in whatever server
Fuck this piece of shit
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>>747531296
if windfury weapon / whatever paladins do applied damage dealt to the buffer you wouldn't say those classes are underpowered



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