Okay legitimately, how the FUCK do you defeat this?
>>747523185You don't.
>>747523185Those things don't even attack right? they just carry the smaller units
>>747523423Do you not see the tens of thousands of "smaller units"?
>>747523185BATTLECRUISER OPERATIONAL
gun
aren't overlords one of the most intelligent and sentient zergs? why are they just randomly floating there in the middle of the battlefield
>>747523185marine firing line behind sieged tanks, nukes
>>747523481i can only see about a hundred
>>747523423in game maybein lore/cinematics they probably can claw at a whole regiment or maybe spit acid rain down on them
>>747523185Literally shoot on the giant red weak points.
>>747523185power of friendship nyaa
>>747523550They barf their zerg goop all over the battlefield to build nests and shit
>>747523185>top heavy you spam artillery at its legs
>>747523185ok that was easy
So what's it going to beAn extraction shooter with PvE horde survival elementsA helldivers cloneA warframe cloneA left for dead cloneJust a braindead prequel?
>>747523185Report it to HR
>>747523734Planetside 3
Send a bunch of mixed-race soldiers as cannon fodder (based)
>>747523780I am vomit
>>747523724the first wave had nothing but marinesmaybe they were teching up to have access to medics
>>747523185Fire.Lots of.>b-b-but......More fire.
>>747523823kek
>>747523550Look behind them; the Dominion is attempting a barracks rush into the Zerg base.
why are people angry at it being a shooter? blizzard was trying to make a shooter set in Starcrafts universe since the fucking 90s
>>747523734>story driven open world shooterso its definitely not a clone of any of those 3>Just a braindead prequel?its 70 years after SC2
>>747523525Ironically canonically speaking one battlecruiser is bigger than that entire OP image combined
Please be an RTSPlease be an RTSPlease be an RTS
>>747523780please be true
>>747523724This is a Marine/Medivac/Medic combo, right? Those tend to be the strats that are best if you want your guys to actuallylive
>>747523987its not an RTSits not SC3
>>747523993>>747523724I legit forgot how to counter this shitGuardians?
>>747523987
>>747523185You don't. That's why the Protoss go around destroying the planets infested with them instead of directly combating them.
Why are the overlords like 2 feet off the ground. I guess they're dropping lings? Why are they dropping with literally no support? They said it's 70 years in the future right? Maybe the Terrans completely forgot how to fight the Zerg.
>>747523185lots of drugs
>>747524073What the fuck does open world shooter even imply? We talking like Arc Raiders shit or what?
>>747524043DTs
>>747523956Marinara?Here I can do that too:>live service arpg shooter>set 10 years after *something*My dad works at Nintendo
Can an army of /v/ anons defeat one zergling?
>>747524073How can it be story driven when that guy died in 5 secondsUnless we're going to be playing as the workers fixing up the dead Marines suits?
>>747524176yea, im pretty sure a fraction of /v/ are armed feds in a van.
>>747524176Well let's seeGuess rifles literally accelerate a tunsten rod the length of your arm at .99% cA whole burst of that is maybe 10 rounds of said rods traveling at fractions of light speedThat all adds up to 5 damageA zergling has 35 hpI think you get the point
Way too much sc1 wank where are the sc2 references
>>747524176Bore it to death with whining about video games
>>747524202maybe we will play as a ghost which are actually treated as valuable assets
>>747524096>Why are the overlords like 2 feet off the groundthey arent, their tentacles areand frankly that explains how they drop units off while staying aloft>being hilariously big>having units to possibly climb down/tumble down/be dropped down by big ass tentacles
>>747524202the entire game takes place in the 30 seconds it takes to build a marine in the RTS game.
>>747524316>Imagine
>>747524172well first of all i diodnt coin the term >story driven open world shootersecond of all, neither of the 3 games you mentioned are>story driven open world shooter
>>747523550Because overlords extend the will of the overmind and thus needs to be nearby to control the zergs in the area.
>>747524294so when do you finally die
>>747524445Damn imagine if that was an actual game mechanic>need to have an overlord within a certain radius of your units or they go berserk on anything nearby
>>747523780this is all I want, anything else will be disappointing
If it was just straight up Planetside 3 I would probably cum.
>>747524407>most intelligent blizzdrone
>>747523185HEAT rounds, sabots. It's an object in the universe, it breaks when you hit it hard enough.
Lend money to it
>>747524043>defiler eats 50 minerals>plagues entire clump up bio>eats another 50>Dark swarm area for invincibility melee units>heh nothing personnel terran
>>747524202Maybe they could try to make it like a single player version of Helldivers 2?
>>747524325They slide down them like a firehouse poleHow's that for an image in your head
>>747524445>a glorified wifi-router
>>747524536Yeah, we need even more shit to micromanage.
>>747523714They're flying retard-kun.
>>747523185
>>747524485an arrmy of /v/ anons would rape anon and kill him from ass AIDS before the zergling got to his gaping ass, which would already be gaping because anon is a faggot
>>747523185Why is anti-soul gas suddenly everywhere?
>>747524124planetside, far cry, GTA, helldivers, tarkov
>>747524202For Battlefield 1 there was a really neat sequence where you played as a guy storming the front line. You die and see the name, rank, and age of the soldier. Then you jump to another and get gunned down again and see their name, rank, and age.This repeats about a dozen times with no way to prevent death. I think this was a pretty good way at showing the inevitable loss of life that WW1 brought.
>>747524553>MMOFPS where all 3 factions play vastly differentI'd cum too but that's never happening, at best you're getting an extraction shooter.
>>747524626i mean overlords already vomit creep on command
>>747524124Far CryThey literally have ex far cry devs and the director working on it
>>747523185With combined arms tactics. Tanks, firebats, their own air support. Maybe the barracks group was supposed to land with support from other elements, but something got messed up and the marines were all unloaded directly against an entire hive cluster. Maybe they were a diversionary attack.Whatever the case is, since they recovered the POV character's suit from ground zero of a zerg base we can safely assume the overall operation was ultimately a success.
>>747523185Drone strikeNo seriously use the Raven
>>747524124Probably, or just a Destiny like clone or something
>>747523185I never knew they were THAT big, and I'm not sure it was always the intention but I dig it.
I don't know why I feel nothing about this. I loved SC but I don't care anymore. Either because they shit the bed with the writing in the final expansions, the state of blizzard now or I have to wait over 3 fucking years for this.
>>747523185They got back the corpses of the Marines in the cinematicThey actually won offscreen
>>747524797>Whatever the case is, since they recovered the POV character's suit from ground zero of a zerg base we can safely assume the overall operation was ultimately a success.This.Everyone seems to be forgetting this part.Yes it sucks for the first wave Marines I.e. the one we followed and saw in the cutscene but ultimately the battle was won.
>>747524124Blizz is always 2 or 3 years late to the party, so yeah, an extraction shooter.
Renegade did it first.Miss playing multi but I don't want to install all that shit just to join the only server that still plays it lol...
Leave it to me, men.*unzips dick*
>>747524202Powerwasher simulator: Dominion edition
>>747524923Blizzard used to be late to the party, but made up for it by delivering a top tier product.Nu-blizz will just be late to the party.
>>747523724how were the medics explained lore-wise? because in-game they just magically heal everyone with some healing ray
>>747524891Have a look at some gameplay of scale size starcraft There's some mods that try to show the true size of units in game and it gets ridiculous like the void rays and motherships being bigger than the map itself.
>2030
>>747524891You should look up how big Yggdrasil is in universe.
>>747524362Now that's a valuable ASSet if you catch my drift.actually it's quite flat what the frick
>>747523185POV: You're an exceptionally talented marine.
>>747525069I always loved the protoss carriers because they looked like kirovs from red alert
>>747523185You shoot it until it dies
>>747525076By the time it comes out we might be playing Starcraft in real life
>>747523949Because StarCraft is an RTS. It hasn't had a new game in over a decade, and now they're going to work on this shooter for another 4 years, so we won't get another RTS until at least like 2036 at the absolute earliest.
>>747525034Blizzard like Apple does what the best American companies do. Perfect and take hold of the industry not innovate.
>>747525116It was a different time. Pre-Kardashian era.
I want to watch all the cute Medic girls explode into Gibs
Guns are accurate to really far away you know that right no animal on earth could survive an entire drum of .50 cal through an m2. Thats a modern gun, the marines in Starcraft probably hand carry rounds substantially bigger than that and capable of farther range with more advanced targeting.Isn't a space marine in Starcraft like 15 feet tall in their suit? The better question is how does an organic alien race of bugs survive against that, let alone maintain a war of aggression? Those things would be vaporized by modern missiles and bombs, they are made of flesh and bone.
>>747525126Uh this seems to be the POV of a zerg monstrosity
I'm all for Blizzard using it's properies in new genres.I have more affection for the setting of their games then the gameplay the came with, at this point.
>>747523185Firebats in bunkers + siege tanks + missile turrets
>>747524915Reminds of all the doom drops pros use all the time for main base harassment while they main attack a expo
>>747525165keep in mind that right now Blizzard is owned by Microsoft who are also owners of Age of Empires, the only active competitive RTS that's getting regular updates and new civs, I don't think they would like to make a new RTS and split the playerbase which is already pretty niche
>>747525051According to the BW manualWhich is full of soul I might as most blizz manuals were back in the day
why are zergs big bads again after void-hybrid-thingy died? kerrigan also ran off with raynor so it can't be her.... right?
>>747525250No they are not 15 ft tallMore like 8 ft tallAlso Zerg are big and use bullshit to reproduce. Like they just magically create more biomatter
>>747524362I am imagining. Imagining a game that's actually good. Blizzard, why did you forsake us?
>>747525165Maybe, although I can be wrong, the people who would develop a RTS game won't be working on the FPS game
>>747523185Freeze a few in time and put them in a museum. Atomize the rest from orbit
>2030 release date (not concrete, likely to be delayed or cancelled)>director made ubisoft far cry games>also helped fucked up F.3.A.R with Warner>will probably get rebooted at least once due to game directors or lead roles changing/moving around>cinematic trailer literally gave no information about the game at all apart from "its starcraft" (the setting)I'm betting you right now they don't even have a clue of what this game is supposed to look like for going gold. More over, says a lot that they had another Starcraft RTS game opportunity and they instead made a shooter. I'm betting they simply don't have the talent to make a decent RTS game. They probably lost that talent a long time ago.If there was a video game production equivalent of a hail mary, this is it.
>>747525250See>>747524284
>>747525382>>747525051UED version of Sisters of Battle
>>747525310for close to a minute I thought the firebats in your post are warcraft 3 bat riders and I thought your proposing a crossover where a bunch of trolls riding giant bats would come out of bunkers before bazai kamizeing into the overlods with modern explosives strapped to them
>>747525384There must always be a Queen of Spad- I mean, Blades.
>>747525436So they're just stereotypical fantasy bullshit then. Of course im not surprised, organic claws and teeth against an armored 8 foot tall gun carrying marine is a silly fight the marines would always win so they must've given them some kind of magic bullshit to let them be dangerous lol.
>>747524603this is where>>747523879wins the game
>>747523287BASED
>>747525384each hive on a planet is now cut off from one single hivemindthis means individual queens have their own sense of agency and so that means some can be part of the environment and some can still have their own agency to fight a waralso>clearly that doesnt mean they cant defend themselvesthe dominion are dropping the marines at the foot of a zerg place here, they arent defending shit
>>747523550Drop harass
>>747525549Ah yes Sisters of Battle, the healers of 40kuck universe.
>>747525382Chemical modifiers? Huh?
>>747523185Giant super justice robot of course! the kind that wipes out all evil, and is super powerful.
>>747523185Nukes, Lotta guns, fire. Idk. There's thousands of ways
>>747525512And yet nukes can vaporize them? We have nukes now lmao
>>747524202If you can't understand you have four years to up your IQ.
>>747525638Question is:Which Overlisk is the Ultralord in?
>>747525660They heal my peenus weenus if you catch the drift :)
>>747523185zerg is OP in all starcraft games so i dont see this changing
>>747524553>>747524775I have wanted this since like 2004 when i first heard of WoW, because i was more of a starcraft guy so i thought about how a wow MMOFPS could work.
>>747525384>>747525626also>zerg are kinoits a no brainer
>>747523185The overwhelming infallible human spirit
>>747525384>why are zergs big bads again after void-hybrid-thingy died?maybe there's no satisfying lore reason and someone at blizz just realized their story is gay and lame, and people want to see space marines fighting insectoid hell monsters again
>>747525682Oh you mean this thing
I bet the second trailer that we will probably get around 2028 will be about the Protoss, since they are completely gone in the first one
>>747525863Shame there was no Protossimus...
>>747523734>So what's it going to beCancelled by next Christmas
>>747525863This one seems pretty controllable at least.As in it obeys your commands instead of being powered up by crying babies
>>747525232Why is there cum in that screen shot
>>747524707I think the trailer did great for the tone of Starcraft but I prefer the aesthetic of starcraft broodwar.
>>747524081This.
>>747525269You would be wrong, you're actually looking back at your buddy who is about to get Zerged
>>747525384if you played HOTS, de-zerg Kerrigan literally gave free-will to every brood-queens.
>>747526024Protecting a sperm bank, one of the capsules was broken.
Terran women love ___ ___ ___.
>>747523185is this the helldivers 2 killer?
>>747526154Green healing rays?
>>747524073>story drivenyikes
>>747526125given the reflections on the visor this seems impossibleplease use paint to portray what you mean
anyone understand why only blood came out of his suit when they were recovering it? Where did his body go or was that censored offscreen because it's too gory?
>>747526167Thought Helldivers 2 was the Helldivers 2 killer.
>somehow Amon returns....
>>747526136even if she didnt, its shown in Heart of the Swarm that zerg hives that arent connected/actively given commands revert either to a primal/autonomous nature (like the one that pulled an Alien on the protoss) or have their own queens that follow their last given command to the best of their ability (like zagara)
>>747525863impressive
I just realized Protoss people dont even have penises
>>747526216But classic SC storytelling and universe was so kino
>>747525859The actual reason is at least 3 games off the top of my head are out and have fan bases those being Helldivers 2 Space Marine 2 and Aliens Fireteam Elite 2 and all of those games are about shooting bugs in military squads, so theyre just doing what modern blizzard should be expected to do and they are lazily chasing a trend several years too late with a popular IP.
>>747525250Yeah these games never truly show how damaging high caliber rounds really are. Those zerg would not even get close to the marines i do not fucking care what "biological" armor you have those zerg would have been wiped out easily. I cant really tell how far those overlords are but artillery shells go real far so maybe when you deal with ground forces you have siege tanks firing at them. What i would train in people to designate a single target spot to penetrate so that everybody does not shoot all over the place and focus fire. That should get to internal organs fast and kill it. I mean futuristic optics should be able to coordinate and calculate targets.Of course aerial fire support is crucial too. An apache heli has a range of 400km and planes are fast there is no reason banshees or vikings would ever be threatened by mutalisks or corruptors.I guess i would say these marines were dropped too close and didnt have any time to prepare. They just got swarmed but proper battle line? Zerg stand no chance. At that point just retreat to the barracks and close the gate i always lol when they try to show that bio claws can go through metal. You aint getting through 100 tons of steel aint happening.
>>747526313when were you under impression there is 1 ebil sale'naga
>>747524176It got killed by being accidentally ran over by a military humvee in cutscene
I WILL BE 40 FUCKING YEARS OLD WHEN THIS GAME DROPS
>>747525151>Manly tears next to a .22 round
>>747526548Based autistic retard.
>>747524536Is it but they dont go berserk they just hang out.
>>747526548>I mean futuristic optics should be able to coordinate and calculate targets.at the very least we know the gear is durable as fuck and good enough to repair, basically an AK>sure the vatnik using it is going to die VERY soon, but at least this thing is easy as fuck to get shooting againits just that life is cheap and im okay with that
>>747525384>>747526136not only that, but in legacy of the void the Khala had to be nuked, so the individualized protoss are going to be aggro.
>>747523185where were the firebats?
>>747526682>docile zergHoly shit Imagine
>>747523185Go around it all and base trade
>>747526634it isn't releasing.another microsoft vaporware
>>747526024It's actually milkA medic blew upPost mortem lactation is a fetish
I want to play as the armor janny
>>747526691but in lotv you clearly saw that cut their cords from khala aren't inherently angry hobos, they're just depressed because they can't "feel' eachother.
>>747523185>Dumb expendable mutts being told they're special, that this time things will be different for them only to end up being sent out into the meatgrinder and replaced with the next crop of useful idiots.Great trailer. Perfectly encapsulated the modern US Military complex.
>>747523185Napalm. Lots and lots of napalm.
>>747523185They DID defeat them as evidenced from them being able to recover Holt's bodysuit.
>>747525232Holy mother of codpiece. BASED
>no mention of it on the thread>no one is aware of itzoomgroids aren't ready for the return of battlezone
>>747526813It's like an scv but not in a suit collecting shit
>>747526951Its been literally almost 50 years and Aliens is still culturally relevant in spite of being raped to death.
>>747524081For some reason they stopped doing that lol.
>>747526813>playing as the dude that has to clean corpses out of mech suitsimagine the smell
>>747526951It's literally "All Quiet on the Western Front"
>>747527074even if youve played starcraft>wtf theres marines on the zergs' side of the mapif map control isnt winning i dont know what is
>>747525232sauce to full image
>>747524362I truly was hoping it'd be her turn. In my head I was imagining some kind of battlefield manipulation and espionage game that kinda mixes up Ass creed and hitman. Something where you play a Ghost going around these war-torn set pieces to accomplish various objectives and assassinations. Like you need to ensure an enemy outpost falls to a zerg rush so you go in and do some wetwork to sabotage their artillery. Maybe occasionally infiltrating a protoss or terran structure and getting into a firefight or having a horror sequence in a zerg hive.
>>747523185With superior speed
>>747526813Battld cruiser Power wash or marine suit recycler cleaning side game not a bad idea
>>747526938the khala was created because the toss devolved into constant barbaric warfare with each other
>>747527175He's got a mask
>>747524915Sounds like the tone might be more Starship Troopers then, you'll probably play a terran grunt who wakes up to the fact it's all dominion propaganda and leads a resistance to overthrow the fascist government.
>>747526951They were heros anon.
>>747525863>Terran players after making their 12th CC
>>747526548Zerg survive deep space travel on their bareskin.
>>747527270BLIZZARD HIRE THIS ANON
>>747527175>>747526813Can you answer >>747526275
>>747527408The only thing missing was a quick shot of a bored engineer whistling to himself as he grinds off the names.
You open with a 2 rax stim timing drop to harass then transition into 8rax 3 base timing as the zerg tries to take his fourth and keep the pressure on until he crumbles.
>>747527484They would still have internal organs even if their carapaces or whatever endured a missile strike the shockwave would liquid their organs into paste.We know nukes work on them because they do in game. We've had nukes for nearly 100 years and modern bombs that aren't nukes are stronger than those nukes. If a nuke can kill them, humans right now can fight them.
>>747526634Chances are it'll be delayed. So you'll be even older haha just like me ;_;
>>747527239https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/145628899#big_0
>>747523287jaeDONGgods
>>747527239>paheal is sanitized>r34 is sanitized>sankaku is only gooky>gelbooru is sanitizedthe fuck hell i cant even find it
>>747525681Stimpicks, but they stimulate tissue growth instead of/in addition to adrenaline, Fallout-style.
>>747527602That's fucking sad, man!
>>747523185A few Vikings would easily deal with them.
>>747527623They've been working on it for 3 years already. 2030 is their safe absolute latest release date. It could be out sooner if anything
Remember the Protoss are actual retardsThe Terrans managed to reverse engineer Protoss teleport tech and only created rudimentary teleport action. Literally only managed to move air to somewhere nearby but thanks to that they created automated gas extractors
>>747527752Anon I'm old. Such copium does not work on me.
Ok but if these kind of men did not sign up to fight, humanity would be overrun and we'd go extinct.So...what's the message?Can you really do a "war is bad" vibe against an enemy that WILL genocide you?
>>747523550I think they're basically just relay stations for the cerebrates. But SC2 seemed to retcon cerebrates and replaced them with queens.
>>747524096did you miss all the mutalisks
>>747527738Like how they "dealt" with that tarrasque right?
>>747523185This game will only be good if you have hundreds of people fighting huge legions of enemies on the mapIt'll never happen though, I bet it'll be more like Destiny
>>747526275>>747527583the blood probably came out of his suit because his dead corpse was in there and it was only recently recovered, them recovering the suit implies they won the fight by sending as many people into the meat grinder as they can - kinda like how some people play an RTS, just mass units and if they die just make more
>>747527812Of course they areThis is their usual strat>>747526061And if it fails they an hero themselves
mass rush iron man suits
>>747527985the message is there's an enemy out there waiting to kill you, you have the ability to beat it but if you don't then another person can easily take your place
>we went from "It's a zerglin', Lester" to pretentious "Dominion bad mmkay?">>747528016they never retconed them, Kerrigan straight up kills every single Cerebrate in BW (except (You) which she murks anyways after the campaign)>>747528058???If you are talking about the intro cutscene to HOTS, that was a Leviathanthere are SO many tourists and newfags in this thread holy shit
>>747523185I thought this was an Onimusha 3 thread and got excited.
>>747526275I guess he was melted by hydras acid
>>747528091It didn't show the corpse when it showed the suit after the blood fell out including his tag
>>747527985The message is that if you wanna be a hero then you'll die a glorious death but death is anything but glorious
>>747528091>humanity wins against the all consuming alien swarm>some humans die horrifically>this means they are dumb expendables>humans are the real monstersNothing will ever capture the Halo 1-3 feeling, will it? It all has to be subverted.
>>747528169he looks like such a little bitch compared to tychus
>>747528058>a viking on the ground vs a torrasque is the same as an viking in the air vs an overlordwut
>>747526275>recover suit>pour some organic dissolver in it to remove previous owner>wait a little>flush
>>747525597Its a shame, but pro players would never really use firebats. It was more cost effective to just run around the dark swarms and try to irradiate the lurkers and defilers.
>>747526275could be melted by a Roach, Mutalisk or >>747528279there many fun and horrific ways to die when fighting against the Zerg!
>>747528263That's why he died.A bitch ass mutt bred for war in the middle east.
>>747528283Pro players use firebats plenty nowadays. The issue is they still kind of suck (because lurkers maul all bio), but they do stop zerglings from getting infinite value and combined with d-matrix can sometimes pull of some sick anti-lurker tactics.
>>747526275He was melted by hydras' acid spines
So is this a unit from earth, or what are they?
>>747528207dumbass is referring to the epic viking touching down and using its ground-to ground guns vs an ultralisk
>>747523185GERMAN ENGINEERING
What happened to the based rednecks?Why are they all brazillian zoomers?
looks kino to megiant barracks. giant overlords.accurate size zergs
>>747528207>>we went from "It's a zerglin', Lester" to pretentious "Dominion bad mmkay?Did you already forget about the ending cutscene to the terrain BW campaignIt was basically full on starship troopers level
>>747524202you'll be playing as the one soldier that isn't a shitter
>>747528369>>747528263>young and impressionable guy is told hes the best, goes to be the best and gets liquefiedi mean yeah hes definitely no tychus
>>747528412that's still not a Tarasque and Vikings are anti-air unitsOP was asking how to deal with the xboxhueg Overloards
>>747528412What the fuck was he thinking? Ultras literally can't attack air units
>>747528412Sad that Ultralisks have never once been as cool as they look in the cinematics.
>>747528494Local rednecks were replaced by cheaper immigrant labor. Just like real life.
>>747528501At this point, just make a tv series with that level of production, or a movie, instead of a NON-RTS game. Non-RTS starcraft is depressing to me. I know I'm a pussy for being emotional but I loved Starcraft so much and they really hate the fans by turning it into a generic call of duty product
>>747528494The Earth population has changed since 1998
>>747528494>What happened to the based rednecks?Gone as of SC2.>whyidk, nu blizz wants cleaner more sanitized things. >>747528563Well viking air to air doesn't hit ground so idk, he was thinking "check out my sick manuvers I'm such a cool hot shot pilot I'lll save the da- OH FUCK" apparently
>>747528407Stukov said that UED would send their search-and-rescue team eventually. it would be nice twist.
>>747528501>made by mentally ill troons and full ofeftist propagandaenjoy I guess
>>747528546thats why im saying hes a dumbass>wtf the viking jobbing to an ultraliskis NOT an acceptable counter argument to>viking would absolutely clean the skiesbecause it actually destroys massive units in air
>>747528279kek I want this to be true
>>747528501Canon sized Starcraft is kino as fuckRemember the Dalaran shipyards mission? Imagine that canon sized You could make an entire spinoff game off that alone
i think i'd rather blizzard start doing animated shows rather than games, the trailer was cool
>>747528501>Sir... this landing formation->Enough backtalk grunt>But sir! Where are the depots?>One more word and I'll have you court martialed>THIS AIN'T NO WALL OFF, IT'S A DAMN DEATH TRAP
>>747528642Stukov was based
>>747528207>except (You) which she murks anyways after the campaignPretty sure (we) die off-screen in some dumb novel.Always pissed me off.(We) were this absolute powerhouse of a cerebrate. Single-handedly fending off and ultimately destroying not one, not two, but three (3) enemy forces at the same fucking time with the majority of the zerg forces not even present.God I miss kerry sweet-talking (us).
>>747527985It's not so much "war bad" as "war sucks, even when it's necessary."
>>747528494The rednecks were confederate marines
>>747528604not quite true, they were pretty cool in HOTS when you get the tarrasque>FIRE THE DAMN MISSILESalso the ironic best thing to happen to them was the size nerf so they could actually not get janked to death
>>747528639ehh WoL had some redneck stuff in it still>>747528642Those are very clearly Dominion troops though.>>747528695you can play the campaigns with the real scale mod, it's pretty cool
>>747528737On what?
>>747528494They ate all the rednecks, sir.
>>747528084imagine if there were two giant AI legions fighting in the background with a constant changing world state, and you were just a small marine force.
>>747528823:/
>>747528639im not even quite sure i get thisas of SC2>backwater natives in the koprulu sectorare not the same as >UED send ins
>>747528823MInors aren't allowed in this website
>>747526245This diagram should dispel all doubt.
>>747528514it was kinoand the UED were basically an outside context problem
>>747528642if I remember correctly, lore-wise UED is strong as fuck and would obliterate the entire koprulu sector if they sent their main battle groups there
>same speech>they leave the barracks>classic terran music starts blasting>"duh duh duh duh, duuuh duuh duuuh">show marines pushing>show classic firebats and maruaders>a seige tank in the background>rednecks screaming as a medic heals him>hydras, zerglings, ultralisks attacking>classic upbeat music swells>the main character gets sliced in half>a new marine immediately takes his place nad runs forwardSTARCRAFT DOMINIONWould have been kino.Why can't we capture that OG feeling? Why does everything have to be anti-united humanity? They are fighting the FUCKING ZERG.https://youtu.be/mD4GbGmvNRc?si=OlHewnHc1gG2dePw&t=34
>>747528627I have loved starcraft sine I was a little kid and I ALWAYS dreamt of a shooter, battlefield style game, plenty of my childhood friends did too. While this might not be exactly what I want, but acting like this is shitting on "the fans" is insane.
>>747528751>Cerebrate! Help!>The consequences of my actions are coming to haunt me>you have to bail me out>"alright"chadbrate.
>>747528381also they destroy hydras because dark swarm is a double edge sword>now your hydras can't kill my firebats>but my firebats can kill your hydrasand defense matrix firebat can surprisingly take out ultras too
>>747528868I'm positive all the negrofied minors speak ebonics, just like (you) do.
>>747528793>ehh WoL had some redneckNot really desu. They still had some rough "criminal" types, but that's a far cry from rednecks, and nothing like terrans being majority rednecks in SC1, besides UED which were complete outsiders.
>>747526813This would make a decent mod for power cleaner simulator.
>>747528263most marines are
>>747528704SC2 is still the single best RTS though>inb4 muh gookclickthe best players in the world right now are Finnish, French, and Italian, and even then>tehres plenty of non pro, non compeititive stuffSC2 is still the single best RTS, whether you talk QoL, responsiveness, or pathing
So how are they gonna make a open world fps starcraft work?
>>747527270Whatever this art style movement is called for the UI elements, I want to go back.
You don't, the Terran military is canonically useless in Starcraft.
>>747528501where's are the supply depots blocking the zerrglings?
>>747528737>based as a man>based as an infested zombie>based as a support in HOTShe was basedhe is based
>>747523185Its been forever ago now but wasn't the zerg force that brought down kerrigan on Tarsonis even larger? This looks like barely anything
>>747528957You don't get much hydra vs. bio. Very rare. Bio just kind of beats hydra too well and lurkers are to good by comparison. >>747529034Like any other potential open world fps. It just needs starcraft coat of paint. The only question is what FPS franchise they'll use as the chassis.
>>747528957firebats can't kill ultras, they do literally 2 damage.
The only thing I remember from Brood War was how Raynor and Fenix kept popping up like a buddy cop duo.>Fenix: It is difficult to believe that I am working along side my greatest enemy in order to save this sector. Fortune has been whimsical of late.>Raynor: You sound like a tired old man, Fenix!>Fenix: Don't let the fact that I am three hundred and sixty eight years older than you dull your impression of me, young Raynor. I can still... how do you Terrans say it... "Throw down with the best of them!">Raynor: I stand corrected.
>>747528903leftists are mentally ill that's why
>>747528957>and defense matrix firebat can surprisingly take out ultras tooYeah, it will just an hour for him to do so.> 16 concussive damage> deals 25% of that to Ultralisk> Ultralisk with a base armor of 1
>>747528751It's a little thing but I loved how the commanders were separate characters for the players instead of just "You're Raynor" or "You're Kerrigan"
>>747524536that would be really coolbut it would also be a huge zerg nerf and kinda overlap with the protoss pylon power system
>>747527270No, you would just call it "woke" for having a female protagonist.
The only thing that got me really hyped>2030oh god
>>747528903the cornerstone of grimdark is>we do win>but we're not winning THAT handilySC just being a one-sided power wank wouldnt be dark enough for starcraftNone of that really matters because most secondaries and tourists are too busy being upset about>women>non whites>not giving a fuck about starcraft but still having an opinionthat people who actually give a shit or have their own opinions have no say in the matter
>>747528501>gets spooked because his gun stops working >dies Emperor protects.
>>747527985It's- HOLY FUCK A ZERGLI-
>>747528627rts sucked and I'm glad it's over
What are the chances they'll turn the old characters to be loot pinatas?
>>747527094>Battlezone mentionedMein nigger.
>>747529029I just can't get into the tedious levels of micro-management to optimize play, like MULEs. Damn extra mineral collector you have to constantly redeploy or else you miss out on the econ advantage over the guy who is willing to babysit them.
>>747529006hah, j-just imagine him in his underwearoh no hes hot!
>>747528627I thought they said open world. Something like Destiny. Which is convenient now that Destiny died. But I don't think the people who want Destiny are willing to wait 4 years for it to come out.
>>747528263Tychus is a hero unit, he ain't no bitch. Isn't Tychus a straight up super soldier? The trailer guy was basically a normal human in proportions while Tychus was built like a tank before the armor.
>>747527985You can if you're a moron that doesn't understand that justified violence is a thing.
>>747529341I mean what the fuck else can you doThat's how many of our boys died in Vietnam too
>>747529408I honestly do not care if we cut bloody swathes through all the SC2 Zerg, and all the Terran characters I like will either be old unless they were shoved into a cryo-pod or are already dead.
>>747529220Yee same. Another sovl-fragment lost.
>>747529481>Isn't Tychus a straight up super soldier?As far as I know, Tychus is just a really tough and jacked guy and that's it. Like yes, he's effectively a super soldier, but story wise he's not from a special program, not suped up with any science juice or anything.Just a criminal who works out and eats well and lugs miniguns.
>>747524124Maybe something like Rage 2?
>>747523185Nuclear. Launch. Detected.Need. A. Light?
>>747529421>I just can't get into the tedious levels of micro-management to optimize play, like MULEs. Damn extra mineral collector you have to constantly redeploy or else you miss out on the econ advantage over the guy who is willing to babysit them.at the highest level its more>i have a bunch of energy>might as well plop them down to deny the enemyStarcraft is about doing what you can, not what you should be doing, thats what getting better is all aboutand again none of this matters because>the COOP mode is good>the arcade is good (AND THERES A FULLY REALIZED AND UP TO DATE 3P COOP FOR ALL THE CAMPAIGNS)>the story mode progression/gameplay is fun, regardless of what you think about the plot
>>747529481>>747529598You encounter several similar guys in one of the Nova co-op missions. Just hardened marines who lived long enough to get better-than-stock equipment that are tough as nails.
>>747529408>all relevant Terran characters from SC2 era are either dead or geriatric codgers>Zerg characters (lmao)>'Toss are the good guys and Tal'Darim have like a single named character that is also a fan favoritein short not happening
>>747528494The Terrans were meant to be the absolute detritus of humanity, in 1999 that was rednecks, in the modern era it's Brazilians and indians. They're just adapting the setting to make sense to modern audiences.
>>747529636https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starcraft/images/d/da/TerranGhostReady00SC1.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20170514113841
Old classic SC cinematics were so kino and they've still got it nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7pifjPrBqIquestion if they can still make a good game around it as well
>>747523185Are you seriously asking how to defeat 2 overlords and some zerglings? 4 Valkyries and 2 widow mines
>>747529713>he doesnt care about zagara or abathur or stukovtheyre fun as fuck when you play them in COOP commanders or HotS, but if you dont care about them after that fuck you regardless
>>747529821>using gas units to defeat mineral unitsthe answer is more marines.
>>747529807This is my fav cinematic as well. This and Brood War opening. >>747529821Wraiths would be more efficient for the overlords.
>>747529512>I mean what the fuck else can you doKill harder.
>>747529807the protos ending still give me chillshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YVD9OlSngg
>>747529821theres a fuckton of mulalisks in that image
>>747529807Starcraft is best when it's Starship Troopers ss Aliens vs Predator.
>>747524073lol, the future is mbappe space marines.
>>747523185overlords are that big? these harmless floating chickenshits are that BIG?
>>747529807You know as a kid I didn't hear the dialogue too well and I thought the specialist guy was a coward that pushed the button out of fear. I never realized the marines were saying "We're all dead, push it!"
>>747528263he is a new recruit not a battle hardened veteran what you expect?
MBAPPE BOP BOP DOO WOP
>>747528169suit looks hollow dont really protect anything except spit
why are they sending in only marines without the support from firebats and siege tanks to fight zerglings? are they retard?
>>747528695
>>747523185Why are you putting yourself that close to a hive?
>>747526813He has the best job. No frontline duty, just comfy corpse disposal and armor maintenance.
>>747530065they're only harmless in gamein universe, they're probably pretty terrifying
>>747530242You are a pleb. You don't get to choose.
>>747530065>harmlessI know its indirect but would it surprise you if I told you the most dangerous units in SC2 are>drones>SCVs>probes
>>747530242>>747530171The commander is doing the world's most retarded barracks rush>>747528501
I'm not afraid to admit that trailer was pretty damn good. Says nothing about the game it'll be of course, but the trailer was good.
>>747527985inb4>the Zerg are just misunderstood!! We invaded their home!!! We're the REAL monsters!!!ahhh plot
>>747523185missiles, gas, firebombing, napalmit'd be way harder to defeat them if they were entrenched, hidden underground, behind shields. As a large surface level wave of biomass? This is what modern warfare is made for, they wouldn't last.
>>747530171>are they retard?they sent a handful of minerals, won the fight, and got their suits back, sounds pretty economical
>>747529869>Zagarabecause HOTS was the designated Kerrigan game, she hardly has any characterization apart fromme dumb -> me still dumb -> ok me a bit smarter now>Abathurwhile the autist is my favorite from HOTS he has literally zero agency and is completely subservient to whoever is the head honcho of the Swarm (most likely Zagara)also makes no sense to actually encounter him outside the primary hive/Levi since his job is to sit in his goon cave and make genemods>Stukovas cool as he is, he really has no reason to exist anymore as he got his revenge but he's a horribly mutated freak that would end up on a dissection table (again) and he seems to independently minded to submit to the Swarmand we all know what happens to rogue broods>>747530013valks counter mutas tho
>>747529945Space Marines LITERALLY just lost half the galaxy to Chaos. They're even more useless than the Dominion.
Seems like a real waste of time, doesn't it? All that hand-to-hand training, live-fire exercises, exercise and strength regimens all to die in under 9 seconds to something that was born a couple minutes ago. You'd think the Dominion at this point would do what they did back in the old lore; empty the prisons, stuff the men with muscle-growing steroids, and slap power armor on them with dummy proof guns.
>>747530339I certainly did not expect that from the Blizzard that gave us dragonflight
>>747529183Based yeah. I want this to come back, but the game kill every good character, last with Zeratul and now Raynor "dissapearing" . And btw wtf was this ARG shit? Totally unrelated to this cinematic.
>>747530171The only way the Terrans could ever lose to the Zerg is if theyre just retarded. Theres a reason Veorhoven did the whole humans wont even take the threat seriously bit for most of starship troopers. You have space ships guns aircraft tanks and bombs if you lose a single engagement to organic bugs its because youre a fuckup.
>>747530401did not, galaxy's just split in half there's active fighting on both sides
>>747530347>clearly hasn't played the game where you actually ARE a zerg cerebrate
>>747530327They got the armor back, the racks rush won.
>>747530398>valks counter mutas thowell i was more thinking you could keep the widowmaines and just make more marinesi mean they sure as fuck didint give me any god damn valkyries in that one mission in SC2
Why didn't Kerrian redesign Zerg queens to be sexy futanari girls modeled after her to seduce and infest terran men?
>>747529310If AI, or some country doesn't kill us first.
>>747530347Bullshit. That time is over.
>>747523185I seduce it.
>>747530327but he won?
>>747523185Modern day humans would destroy this and all Protoss ground forces without breaking a sweat. Nothin' personnel xenos.
>>747530327>plopping down barracks and marines in front of enemy baseany time you're fighting the zerg on their side of the map youre winning
>>747529509Every moron who talks about justified violence thinks its some amazing unique concept that they just thought up and only applies to them, not that every human on earth thinks that about their own violence.>BUT IN THIS FAKE MEDIA I WATCH THERE IS AN EVIL BAD GUY FACTION WHO HAS NO MIND OR FREE WILL AND IS PURE EVIL AND ITS OKAY TO KILL THEM!Literal garbage for children with all nuance stripped out so you don't have to feel bad about killing. Idiots who flock to this media try to apply that logic to real life and they're always the lowest of the low.
>>747530169It does raise an interesting question of how do Marines usually get into the armor on the regular. Was Tychus being locked in unusual or just the standard way they used to get Marines ready for combat? Now you just have the FO4/Iron Man version where the suit opens up and you just walk in.
>Open World FPS... Helldivers?
>somehow 40k imperial guard operates better than UEDI don't get it, why drop the barracks in front of a zerg rush, also why isn't there any fire or anti-air support shooting down the overlords who retardedly went into the frontline? It's like two retards playing SC for the first time with the terran player more retarded.
i never played the last StarCraft 2 expansion, wasn’t the zerg under kerrigan control with the exception of that queen that got lost in a ship?
>more dominionslopbring back the UED. At some point they're gonna have to come see what happened to DuGalle and his fleet, realize the zerg are gone and the toss are weak, and come enslave the Koprulu hicks
>>747530596There are people who think even self defense is wrong, when that would be one of the most obvious cases of justified violence. Yes, there are people that stupid to just default to "but violence never solves anything!" regardless of context. WRONG. Violence can solve a lot of problems, it's consistently done so for as long as life as existed.
>>747530609>Was Tychus being locked in unusualMy understanding is very unusual and he had a special souped up suit becuase he needed to be able to survive in it since he couldn't take it off without the explosive detonating and if you are going to bother setting up a deep mole, might as well give him some good armor and invest. >>747530616Helldivers is not open world.
>>747530429The prisons are empty... only meatbags left are zoomers.
>>747530521thats more a question for abathur>>747530616i know a sandbox and an openworld may seem freely interchangeable terms, but helldivers and Mercenaries are in fact different gamesalso>extracting
>>747530618That's not the UED. UED are chilling on Earth. These guys are Sons of Korhal turned Dominion.
>Terran trailer>Shows that even for all the time, training, and resources spent, you are all just expendable meatbags fighting on a Dictator's whim and whose life can be extinguished in 10 seconds>Protoss trailer>There is no greater honor in fighting for your Homeland and you are bound by the camaraderie with your fellow man(alien) and you are willing to fight to the last breath for a noble cause you believe in
>>747530429It's probably more worthwhile to do the whole training montage because if they guy thinks he's a badass then he's more willing to die without question.
>>747525126You're making fun of them but considering the fact that this guys corpse was retrieved, it's implied the Terran offensive was a success.
>>747530401>Space Marines LITERALLY just lost half the galaxy to Chaos.Go to bed Abaddon. Cadia fell almost 10 years ago, and prior to the 37th war of Armageddon and Yarrick returning the last stuff happening in 40k I was aware of was based cawl reverse engineering necron tech to build new blackstone pillars. I think the Silent King is supposed to finally be back too.
>>747530618>game is called DOMINION>description says this is a game about DOMINION marinesare you just retarded? the actual UED steamrolled the entire sector, enslaved the Overmind 2.0 and BTFO'd the Protoss all with vastly nerfed tech because they didn't want it falling into enemy hands>>747530674considering that UED is supposedly really advanced they could be the big bad of SC3 (Kerrigan is too busy flattening Jim's pelvis)
>>747530798and then if you manage to win you get glassed from above by a carrier fleetentaro adun for auir!
>gun stops working>proceeds to piss and shit his pants instead of getting his knife40k Space Marines could fuck this fag and it wouldn't even been gay.Also implying there won't be a strong, independent woman to lead these cucks.
>>747524284Autistic people actually think like this.I guess a space marine is only slightly stronger than a normal human because a guardsman is strength three and a space marine is strength 4?
>>747530668>i never played the last StarCraft 2 expansion, wasn’t the zerg under kerrigan control with the exception of that queen that got lost in a ship?iirc she went on her own journey to end the big bad, and left a bunch of things to their own devices>>747530798well to be fair thats because the protoss had a hivemeind type of unified commuinication thing going on
>>747523185just send like 2 marines? are you stupid?they can just outrun them
>>747530856>(Kerrigan is too busy flattening Jim's pelvis)h-hot...
>>747523185Domain Expansion: Malevolent Shrine
>>747530798>>There is no greater honor in fighting for your Homeland and you are bound by the camaraderie with your fellow man(alien) and you are willing to fight to the last breath for a noble cause you believe in>hair braids still on>he doesn't know
>>747530915That they wrote out by the end of Legacy of the Void so they could all be le hecking individuals.
>>747523185parry them
>>747530609The other guys literally asks Tychus why he is still in his suit doing WoL.
>>747530818I said talented, not lucky.
>>747530856just stop>people who are only familiar with SC1 who havent touched or interacted with any form of SC2 think they know what SC is because they remember a cutscene or two for a 20 year old gamethis is literally the same shitshow that is>interacting with 40k people who are upset at a thing that they remember but dont know a fuckin thing about
2 port wraith
>>747530881they just get recalled back to the fleet. Kerrigan actually abused this in HOTS when she implanted the captive with a parasite
>>747523185>Okay legitimately, how the FUCK do you defeat this?ask the real imperium of men how to fight....not some loosers like in the trailer.
>>747531062I LOVE LETA
>>747530963>That they wrote out by the end of Legacy of the Void so they could all be le hecking individuals.i said>had
This niggas was boxing and beating the shit out of hydralisks 10 years ago, why are the zoomer marines so bad they die to a single zergling?
>>747524073>open worldPlease for the love of god stop the open world meme. It's not novel anymore
>>747531109to be fair, the dominion doesn’t have 40m+ soliders to trow at the front to weaken the line
>>747531169the most based man in all of SC2 (right after Tychus, nobody is more based than him)
>>747524176What they should try is gang up on a baneling
>>747530798even better when you die you don't and they put you in a sick mech suit where you get to snipe enemies with a photon cannon
>>747531169Easy, no Mensk around and a short period of peace. Make me wonder if with the "Firstborn" they meant Artanis, or someone new.
>>747531169yet, so called "greatest legendary warrior commander executor" named "Fenix" jobbed to 2 hydralisks(ranged units) in close combat(something toss is good at)
>>747523185>Okay legitimately, how the FUCK do you defeat this?Siege tanks and bunkers
>>747529098This is a Medivac harass but without the MedivacThe hive is kind of silhouetted behind the overlords It clearly worked since they got the armor back.
>>747531169>a single zergling?wut>>747531194i think you just need to accept that some people like open world and some people dont>>747531265>needing to gang up on a baneling>>747531262mengsk is pretty based
>>747531313his Duracells ran out and unlike Hydras he isn't covered in spikes and blades
>>747524073Helldivers 2 but on a single planet.
>>747531169they're all retarded brainwashed conscripts and warfield was a competent dominion general
>>747531326Some idiot tried a barrack rush. It didn't work very well.
>>747531313>close combat(something toss is good at)Didn't he literally lose his only weapon, kind of like the marine in this trailer
>>747529098>>747531357It's very clearly a proxy rax that floated into the zerg main.
>>747531109Yeah bro stab them with a big knife! That'll work kek. 40K would unironically get steamrolled by Starcraft.
>>747531238my man, a normal astra militarum soldier would have done better than this terran bitch in the trailer....
>>747531367Yeah, normgroid fags like open world and every game series gets ruined by going the open world route
>>74753116999% of Marines end up like the trailer kid, the remaining 1% end up like Warfield and Tychus.
>>747531463with that i can agree.
>>747531169Only black man I would let fuck my wife.
I like to think that the entire 3 minute training montage was, in fact, only 3 minutes long. Due to memory manipulation, the Marine thought he was doing all those exercises while they injected him with steroids, taught him how to shoot with hypnotic suggestion and a very, very retard-proof gun.
>2030Please kill me
>>747524287Nigger, nobody liked Starcraft 2, get that shit out of here
>>747531448>Yeah bro stab them with a big knife! That'll work kek. 40K would unironically get steamrolled by Starcraft.are you retarded? lol
>>747531410>a rush didnt work because they didnt winmy guy the goal of a rush is to either secure a lead or do irreparable economic damage (secure a lead) a cheese in SC2 only fails if you failed to secure a lead
>>747531463An Astra Militarum would have put his visor down if he had one.
>>747531475as if, dont pretend Borderlands 4 was some gold standard or exampleand Nioh3 was never going to be the same as Nioh2
>>747531680Are you insane? Putting down your visor turns you into a disposable goon. Coincidentally, the trailer character died the second he put down his visor.
>>747531410>It didn't work very well.on the contrary>>747530397
>>747531410It did though, hence they got the suits back.
>>747531410It did work though. Do you think all those suits of armor and medals >>747527408 recovered themselves?
>>747527360>starship troopers same impression I got due to the propaganda and the knife fight training. I hope the aliens won't be totally ignored for a "overthrow the evil nazi government" plot.
>>747531552kek that would be kino
>>747531806>play starcraft>get to be guy>get to shoot aliens>aliens without mouths>alienified zombie guys>and other humanssounds like a great time to me
>>747531806mobile infantry just fought retardedly. bionic is the actual way to deal with a basically 99% zerglings, they just suck at it because they're dumb
>>747531326>not using the trifold bunker design with a third bunker set back from the first two to make sure anything that breaks the primary firing line has even more direct fire poured on them. Put a turret in the middle at a nice chokepoint and you've got a tough nut to crack.
>>747531326where's your supply depot wall?
>>747531901I guess infested terrans are pretty kino
>>747532036the whole mission of starcraft 2 about burning the infected while surviving in an infested city was really kino, i still remember it to this day
>>747532026>>747531983ive played enough starcraft to remind you that>controlled flowis MUCH more dangerous than a hard wall>zerglings mass trhough one hole thats two siege tanks turning that hole to mushalso>lmao pathing AI from a move/encircle commandthe fact that the zergs would prioritize the sources of damage (the siege tanks having long range) would fuck with the pathing biglyhell an empty bunker would be more OP than an occupied bunker
>>747523185>Okay legitimately, how the FUCK do you defeat this?DE-LIGHTED TO SUH!
>>747526807>Post mortem lactation is a fetishWell shucks now I better go Google it.
>>747528501What bothers me is how flabbergasted he looks when he saw the zergslikedid no one give them a basic briefing on what they are dealing with before touch down?plus, where's the bayonet? I remember the black commander in SC2 used it
>>747528501I mean... at least he died like that to a ling and maybe hydra acid instead of being blown apart by the splash damage of his own siege tanks
>>747532036I was always disappointed how infested terrans were gradually removed from the zerg army outside of campaigns
>>747532197>adding gas to a gasless operationwhat do you think theyre made of money?
>>747532240imagine if firebats did friendly fire lmao
>>747532229that would be pretty funny if they just forgot to teach him what a zergling was
>>747532229>his job is to go in there and shoot his gun and be part of a glow up martyrdom speechit seems to be a winning strategy
>>747532229Being shocked when it all becomes real is pretty realistic. No matter how much training and briefings you have done.
>>747523185SC1/SC2 Marines could easily take down both Overlords and Zerglings. I'm gonna asume there are Hydralisks nearby because of the acid.They don't even seem to be that outnumbered.The trailer is very dumbed down compared to the RTS power level.
>>747532321>imagine if a unit nobody buys often, had a reason to never be bought
>>747532229>like>did no one give them a basic briefing on what they are dealing with before touch down?Probably not. Kind of the point
I don't get how you can make this actually all that interesting. Marines are weak as hell in the grand scheme of things. An elite one could probably fight zerglings and broodlings and infested terrans but even just fighting a single roach or a hydralisk would be one heck of a fight. Anything above that would annihilate the marine before you an even do anything. Lurkers, infestors, brood lords ultralisk I just don't see how you can make it interesting from a marine point of view. Also don't believe a marine could beat more than a sentry on the protoss side no matter how elite they are. I guess you could shoot down prisms and observers. I want to be optimistic and give it a chance but I just don't know about the premise
>>747532417Yeah, same exact story for those infantry on Dday storming the beaches.
>>747532421Why is everyone thinking the acid implies hydras when we can see the mutas in the picture
>>747532421>SC1/SC2 Marines could easily take down both Overlords and Zerglingsyeah, under ideal conditions, but most of the cutscenes show the marines and worse equipped backwater dudes get pitted against VERY non-ideal conditions
>>747532321Firebats don't have friendly fire. They're all about unfriendly fire.
>>747531751>>747531757>>747531763Huh...
>>747523185>firstborn>dominion wtf is this? aren't firstborn meant to be about protoss?
>>747532421A handfull of marines can shoot spaceships out of the sky so yeah, I don't mind it being "dumbed down" kek.
>>747532421It's already been said time and time again, it was an unsupported pure barracks rush and they ended up winning anyways
>>747525863>Armored Command Unit ONLINE>Good hunting Commander!
>>747532472Raynor survived all that and more in the game campaign and the booksThe game if it truly is a open world FPS based on your story, just has to make you akin to Jimmy
>>747532513more importantly>why does everyone think hydras spit acidwhy do illiterate people pretend they know, like, and should voice their thoughts on starcraft
>>747532421even if there were hydralisks, they don't fight marines that well anyway. the suit doesn't really take anything more than superficial damage. the guy just got really unlucky with the hit disabling his gun.
>>747532229Probably the size of the overlord. I guess he forgot to pop stims
>>747532564Yes, the speech was about "don't wait for the protossor let be defended by the protoss". Classic arrogant general or high ranker mentality.
>>747532664>just has to make you akin to JimmyOnly if I can get a hot zerg gf! Or else I shant be buying.
>>747532421There's like a hundred mutas on the screen. I dunno how many marines they had but without medics they're fucked
Why didn't the player research combat stims, a good hit of the juice would've pulped that entire zergling wave.
>>747532724no medics, so stimming might actually be worse
>>747523185>unstacked mutasOpponent too free, forfeited.
>>747532774Apparently the Terran commander (player) went all in on the barracks rush so the Zerg didn't have time to reach critical muta mass.
>>747532664Raynor was unique in his own way. Many times he fought zergs and Kerrigan and live to tell the tale. There's a reason why he was the commander of a rebelion army, or why the Protoss and Mensk's son respected him very much.
>>747532790see>>747532806
>>747523185this game still being at least 4 years away makes me think it's going to be a destiny competitor even though people who have played it have said it's closer to warhammer space marine.great cinematic, looking forward to seeing gameplay.
>>747532701there are examples of fucked up suitsI think the idea is that the suits are better than nothing, but that they are the equivalent of AK's, numerous enough and durable enough that you can refit them for service with relative ease
>>747532852there doesn't seem to be any lurkers so maybe a timing attack?
>>747532748I also had the sinful thought of fraternizing with the Zerg. I think it would be cool, would add layers and such. in other words, the game must have Hydralisk GFs or I shan't be buying.
So what the fuck was that trailer? Marines are just convicts strapped to a suit and medicated just enough to not kill other marines. What's with the random training montage and advancing in ranks before even being in combat armor?
>>747532806>>747532790plenty of dollars have been won over "im gonna stim and rely on a timed combat shields upgrade"zergs cant hit you if you shoot them dead fast enough with your attack speed boost>>747532847>stack mutas>one unseen widow minelol no wonder the terrans won
>>747532898The suits either exist to offer basic environmental protection and be functional in any clime and place, as well as allowing the Marine to fight with equipment the average human wouldn't be able to carry at all. If Firebats and Marauders are anything to go by, the actually armored suits are bulkier and usually only given to the non-criminal elements of the infantry.
>>747533010That was the old marines from SC1 and not even BW. You are way behind on the times
why is everyone judging this as if a starcraft fps would have the same balance as the rts, and as if the cinematics haven't always been unrealistic?the rts game isn't literal. Next you'll be complaining that the battlecruisers are bigger than 10m
>>747532898>I think the idea is that the suits are better than nothingThe suit tanked an acid blast that would've liquefied a normal human.
>>747532847>stacking mutaslaughs in irradiate
>>747523185Vikings.
>>747530169when he's in the suit, does he have to curl into fetal position? is that why the torso of the suit looks so hollow? if it's not, how do his limbs stretch out to control the suit?the proportion feels so off wtf
>>747533069>why is everyone judging this as if a starcraft fps would have the same balance as the rtsi think half of it is people being retardedthe other half is immersively applying videogame logic
>>747523185Zerg have dominated ASL lately. PATHETIC protoss and terran players can't compete
>>747532513I honestly never knew what Mutas were shooting, to me it looked like a fucking shuriken
They all want the BZC.
>>747533161>latelyI thought they always have>>747523287As much fanfare as Flash got, Jaedong was still by far the King and Zerg ruled all.
>>747532894I hope they play the story straight, and not have it be yet another "disillusioned recruit rebels to save his people". Something like "Yeah, the Dominion is pretty ass, but I realize now it's the ONLY thing keeping humanity alive in an uncaring universe, and that makes it worth sacrificing for."
>>747530963Yeah, which forgets the fact that1. the primal zerg view the hive-minded ones as freakish abominations2. the primal zerg were unable to fight off the freakish abomination spawned from them beforehand and were constantly in hiding before Kerrigan extended the olive branchThey're all dead now
>>747532898I think it's more likely that the suits allow normal humans to fire the only weapons powerful enough to actually harm a zerg.Like, look at a hydralisk and tell me a 50 cal round is going to do anything to it.
>>747533064What are you talking about? Even Dominions marines are convicts. If you check SC2's WoL Hangar, both the medivac and the firebat suit have flavor text about the users being deranged criminals.And the guys in the trailer are just standard Dominion marines, nothing special.
>>747533020depends on the player. against that many zerglings some people would rather bet on the backline marines adding on the firepower you would get with stim so that your frontline marines can tank slightly better because the lings are guaranteed to close the distance and get hits anyway. especially since medics aren't out yet
>>747533010It make sense. How many Terran armies of different factions have "convicted men" enough to have an army? No every planet does. What about the minor places like that farm planet Raynor rescued? Do you really think convicted people will help the farmers to escape the planet when doom is coming? No. It make sense, Terran armies also have people who join their armies by their own will, enlisting climbing ranks, or mercenaries.
>>747533169Doesn't the game literally say it's an acid glaive?
>>747533153people enjoying video games logic on my video games board?HERESYBLAMMED
>>747531448Not to be one of those retards that just claims 40k beats everything but. The Imperium of Man is orders of magnitude stronger than the Dominion in both firepower and numbers.
>>747524202You don't play as the soldier, you play as the guy cleaning out the armor. You will read their dogtag, personnel file and listen to their audio logs of combat while making sure the armor is ready for the next hero.
will wife's salesmen return in new game? trailer doesn't implying anything about them. i hope they are doing good in aiur
>>747532894>destiny competitorI thought that game's ded
>>747533153yet>>747524284
>>747533226historically, terrans have dominated competitions. there was even that 1 guy who won a trophy purely off his tvz because of how the competition was seeded
>>747526024It's milk from titties.
>>747533069Making Starcraft, an iconic RTS franchise turn into a shooter is like making Doom a turn based RPGThe only frame of reference we have is the original media
>>747531463Eh, he'd probably waste less ammunition but the Lasgun is a big step down from an Impaler.
>>747533337Sold
I just hope you aren't stuck as a marine always. Let me drive a siege tank or a goliath then this gets a lot more fun
>>747533237at the end of the day im saying JUST because they take damage, doesnt mean they HAVE TO HAVE full health, thats just OCD
>>747525681I doubt they actually heal them. Its probably supermeth that keeps the marines functional until their brains literally shut down.
>>747533337BLIZZARD, HIRE
>>747530401It wasn't half, more like a fifth at best and it's Cadia's fault, not the marines.
>barracks land directly in front of high ground>hundreds of mutas just let the barracks land into place with no harassment>everyone runs out of the barracks to be muta fodder instead of staying under cover inside the barracks>zerg is just out in the open running in the open fields and making no use of the terrainwhat the fuck is this lmao
>>747533481That sounds very in universe and I'll accept that explanation
>>747533549Well of course you'd want to push as many Marines out as you can since they can't hit the Mutas from in the barracks.
>>747533549Almost tired of saying it butIt.Worked.
>>747533542>It wasn't halfIt was half, Imperium Nihilus does not get the Astronomicon.
>>747529481Tychus was from the samwise diddier art direction era of metal and muscular dudes + hot womenThis new is just standard realism boring
>>747533226>I thought they always haveNot really. In pure fax Terran won the most, zerg second, protoss third. Terran race won a lot of tournaments in the past but map balance wasn't great back in the day. >As much fanfare as Flash got, Jaedong was still by far the King and Zerg ruled all.Flash was lucky map balance was so bad. It helped Terrans a lot. Some of those maps were basically unwinnable but zerg players played so hardcore they still won anyways
>>747533350the dominion commander talking about firstborn make me think they are now integrated together.
>>747526275I like to think marine power armor have a cleaning mode that grind up corpses into chunks so you dont have to pull and lug the corpses.
>>747525382God I miss game manuals like this. Especially back then with the graphics of the game, these offered concept art and 3d models of the characters/units that helped flare your imagination even more
>>747533161>gifrelplease tell me there are more of these of other units.
>>747533069Granted some RTS games went the extra effort to make their gameplay mechanics have actual in-universe reasons to be the way they're, something StarCraft doesn't have most of the time
>>747533624Sounds like a design flaw. Do windows not exist in the future?
>>747533229I think I preferred the older SC1 manual lore for Zerg where the Overmind managed to trick the Xel'Naga, devour them, and began a galaxy wide journey to consume the Protoss to make the Zerg the perfect organism. Where all the various Zerg bioforms were just animals they devoured and reconstituted along the way.
>>747533161zerg have been wildly overpowered for years.
>>747528227do hydras even shoot acid? I though it was spines
>>747533635>It.>Worked.the zerg won by being out in the open and running / flying across an entire empty field into active gunfire instead of destroying the barracks in flight or using burrow?could have fooled me.
>>747533350>wife's salesmentook me a second
>>747533807No when you use this buildings in deep space too. And sure someone inside saw the problem, but maybe either it was too late to go back, or he have his orders.
>>747533841you can see that the marine is sprayed with acid in the cinematic, the spines are covered in it I think
>>747533859I mean the T won. I misread your post. I guess the zerg cerebrate was retarded
>>747533542>Cadia's faultThe planet broke before the guard did.
>>747533839Nah, that was only Serral.
>>747533914That was a muta I'm sureor maybe a ling spat at him
>>747532472for the protoss side just find a gap between buildings. 1 marine could theoretically kill infinity zealots that way
>over 1000 posts of applying SC lore/logic to cinematics and gameplay in less than 3 hoursFucking kinosomeone make a next thread, korea time is back baybee
>>747533412It worked for DoomRL.
>>747533663>samwise diddierHe really was the sovl of blizzard.
Why the fuck would marines be training for unarmored melee and small arms unfit for power armor? The dumb jeets they got working on this garbage don't even know what the fuck they're doing.
>>747533839>>747533960recently the new worker/larvae changes changes did horrifying things to the zerg winratethe reactionary COMMAND CENTER PRICE DROP did other things as well
For an idea of how a Starcraft FPS could work, check out this dude's free fangamehttps://j-jlucas.github.io/PlaySCM/It's pretty neat and has potential. Provided he doesn't get slammed with a C&D whenever he gets the time to continue working on it
>>747534125>Why would a military unit be training for a worst case scenario?
>>747534125in case they need to go mano a mano against a zealot of course
>>747533837Yeah. Primal zerg is lame and gay. Takes away from the cool/creepy/weird/scary factor a lot.
>>747534125>Why the fuck would marines be training for melee and arms unfit for punching a hole in a ultralisk?
>>747534125It's about general fitness, something all soldiers do. Modern soldiers still train bayonet drills despite them being unlikely to ever use them.
so if marines are worthless and expendable how are they gonna explain it when you (the player) kill thousands of zergs without dying in normal gameplay?
>>747533837I too like that better and wished SC2 remained a straightforward revenge story about Raynor icing Kerrigan instead of filling her with icingThe Protoss lore was neat, at least.
>>747534125Put your hand on that wall, trooper.
>>747534198Because it increases their training time and cost when you coud be deploying more meatbags
>>747533991It was the marine in front shitting himself actually.
>>747534125why are you saying this like sc1 or sc2 made any more sense
>>747533549anon, they are mass spamming marines to completely overwhelm the zergs, sure they left a big body count but it did the job
>>747534270That's my biggest question too. Unless your character rapidly develops psionic abilities or the Dominion has new tricks since the last time we saw it in action
>>747534273But sir, our enemy doesn't have hands capable of pushing buttons, sir.
>>747533934my point isn't about who won or lost, it's that the whole thing looks retarded, especially compared to their previous cinematicsits plays out like the two forces have agreed to have a skirmish out on an open field, they collect their forces on either side until both sides were ready and then just charge head first into each other with no thought.it feels like some dispute between a pair of lords from the 9th century rather than starcraft.
>>747534270How did they explain it when Jim Raynor did it?
>>747534273
>>747534270expendable and worthless are two different things
>>747534270respawn as a new marine after getting oneshot for the tenth time by siege tank splash.
>>747534270That your marines were some of the good ones that they will then parade around as propaganda to entice more mediocre marines to join.As explained in the thread, there is a major gradient in competence between "cannon fodder existing as something for the zerg to spit at" and "genuine supersoldier who can 1v1 a goliath."
>>747534392>they collect their forces on either side until both sides were ready and then just charge head first into each other with no thought.there were multiple cutscenes in sc2 like this
>>747534125why would marines be doing knife combat training and then NOT HAVE KNIVES
>>747534490This
>>747534392you have a point>there was never a viking that landed to 1v1 an ultralisk>THAT NEVER HAPPENED
>>747534270terran just has a way of making a handful of marines and medics on hold position way more annoying for zerg to deal with than it should be without using stuff that just plainly out-tiers them
Real question:Will this thing have RTS elements? It's the deal breaker if there won't be
Imagine a mount and blade style game with dozens of marines on the battlefield all acting independently and you giving rough orders
>>747534516Their guns come with bayonets that you never see in gameplay for balance reasons (even though they could just script them to work like the Hydralisk's melee attack.)
>>747534392>they collect their forces on either side until both sides were readyThe marines landed straight into the action.
>>747530171Maybe they were supposed to get support from other elements but it got screwed up.>diversionary attack from mechanized force attacks and draws the main force away>land barracks in the hive cluster and start pumping out marines
>>747534595>Will this thing have RTS elements?no
>>747534516jokes on you, raynor has a melee animation in melee combat in heroes of the storm
>>747534596I can already mod Mount and Blade warband into a star wars game
>>747534595nahit's just gonna be World of Starcraft
>>747534572This is probably why walling became the universal strategy to stop zergling rushes back in the day. Because zerglings are kind of shit when you force them into a narrow path that only lets one or two attack at a time instead of an open area where they can spread out.
>>747534625if its a planetside-like or takes inspiration from BF it COULD have a commander role
>>747534674It's incredibly jank though. M&B wasn't meant to support automatic weapons and it shows.
>>747534638>>747534401Seriously speaking in terms of in universe canon, could Jim actually beat a zealot in H2H combat?
>>747534718fenix probably beats jimmy in a HotS 1v1 most of the time.
>>747534718give him a big enough gun and yeah he could
>>747534718Almost certainly no. He does H2H as a distant side gig and a Zealot's blade can cut through CMC like it's made of aluminum foil. It's reflected in how he matches up to Fenix.
>>747534401Easy, anon. He has both a name and a face. The only way he could possibly die is if the plot required it.
>>747534802thats not very fair, fenix is a dragoon and has a fuck ton of range on jimmy
>>747534687more likely it's going to be repurposed overwatch pve mechanics
>>747534718Yes because he has hero / main protag privilege. Even just with his bare (power-suited) hands he'd win somehow. Maybe even without that.
>>747534625Not even something like Natural Selection 2?
>>747534687But what if World of StarcraftWith EVE economics?
>>747534884Fenix was a zealot before. It's a shame when good characters die because "the plot"
>>747534952>2 clans of Chinese gold farmers fought over the last open Vespene Geyser spot>$100K worth of ingame items were lost in a single battleSure, why not?
>>747534884i actually meant artanis, i forgot fenix was in dragoon form in HotS.
>>747535007wel hes not a zealot in heroes of the storm where anon says he can 1v1 jimmy
>>747534949Wait for gameplay revealIn 2029
>>747535035>>747535071It could be because it's been forever since I've played but artanis always seem like some limp nerd who could only fight from behind his future alien plane
Why are people still speculating on the genre when they said it's a Story driven open world FPS (Far Cry clone) from the maker of Far Cry 5.
>>747534949Natural Selection style games are a relic of the 2000s, it's a failed game design
>>747535130It could still have a good multiplayer separate of the campaign. Like StarCraft 2.
>>747535130because somehow people think helldivers being big and open means you can semantically still have room to interpret that to be possibly a helldivers clone
>>747535213You sure it's not just the mainline industry homogenizing design so much that anything even remotely novel gets scrubbed out for the safest, cookie cutter mechanics and design possible?
>>747535319Well that's one way of looking at it I guess, but having a commander in multiplayer games just doesn't work, it gives one person the ability to fuck over the rest of their team
>>747535416worked fine in BF2well... fine ish
>>747535416Starcraft already has a ranking system; a consistent shitter can get sent to the shadow realm to train with bots and other fuck-ups until they get a handle on what they're doing to a basic degree.
>>747535514So? Why have a role on the team where they have way more responsibilty than everyone else on the team and can singlehandedly fuck the game over for anyone elseIt doesn't make sense for public games
>>747535416Given a lot of these games are reaching Hollywood level budgets in the hundreds of millions, I think it might be more true than either of us know. You'd have to make several million sales just to break even, never mind actually making a profit, so coming up with interesting or novel mechanics start to look like a gamble you don't want to make with that kind of money on the line.
>>747534062
>>747534949the average blizztard has no capability of playing NS2 commander.
>>747535608The commander isn't a novel or interesting mechanic though, it's 20 years old
>>747535567NS has never had functional matchmaking.if it had a dedicated commander queue you'd have people lined up actually willing to do the role and possibly understanding what the fuck to do.maybe you could even kick your commander through a group vote to have a new one pulled from the queue, but natural selection has never seen modern matchmaking so it's always frustrating to play.tons of servers just got emptied out all the time because literally nobody of the 24 players on wanted to play commander so everyone is just sitting there doing nothing.
>>747535673There's like three threads up, which one do we pick
>>747535787>if it had a dedicated commander queue you'd have people lined up actually willing to do the roleYou think every single person you get in matchmaking is going to be on-point all the time?
>>747535858Holy fuck. The power of starcraft and evidently oldfags who are still lingering on the board
>>747535884no, but if you check the box that says "i want to play commander" you'd be more prepared to do it than someone that didn't and just jumped in the chair to start the game.
>>747535995well yeah but the commander sitll has the potential to fuck over the game for everyone else, making it a bad design decision for public matchmaking
>>747535893The words being spilled have been pent up for over a decade.
>>747536074use MMR to match shit commanders with shit players and the system will sort itself out, especially if the players can just vote to kick him out and have him replaced by another guy in queue at any time.
>>747536156>especially if the players can just vote to kick him out and have him replaced by another guy in queueyou really want to have to wait for a brand new replacement in the middle of a match?
Guess we're picking this one>>747519328haul over when ready boys
>>747536217the system will never be fucking perfect, but it is literally better than some random retard jumping in the chair to force the game to start, shitting it up, and just making everyone leave the server to find a playable one.
>>747536315what's better is not having a role that has more power and responsibilty than every other playerwhich is why this concept didn't make it past Battlefield 2 or Natural Selection
>>747536414you're right but i think it's fun when it actually works.hell let loose does this with a simulated chain of command and that game is fun when everyone is into it.
