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Appologise
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>>747523469
>day 1 $30 DLC race for both factions in the official blizzard approved classic +
This isn't a request, fucking apologise right now you cunts,
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>>747523469
Gomenasai Shenna-sama...
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>>747523749
I lost all my friends for this...
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It was kino and ill miss it.
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>>747523469
I genuinely miss it. I regret now raiding BWL now so much.
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>>747525407
It was literally the best version of wow and it was free, i cant believe this is the timeline we are in, they kill it to sell blue elves to retards for half a year
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>>747523469
No, they were Russian pirates who stole Blizzard's game and profited off of it.
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>>747523469
Sorry your devs were too stupid to poke the hornets nest and get themselves shut down.
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>>747523469
>adds goblins and high elves for free with starting zones that are believable in previously established lore
>tries class changes, mostly abandons them based on feedback
>adds entirely new dungeons and zones in places where nothing is that also make sense
>adds cut zones from the alpha
>adds closed off zones not accessible in the base game
>adds raids that were only speculated on as cut content and they make sense
>adds custom music and atmosphere to all of this
>adds zone changes to existing places
>adds way more quests and switches up raids
>all without abandoning the original aesthetic, level 60 limit or really the balance of the game in any major way so it feels like a natural expansion
yep
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>>747523469
I'm sorry.

I only played Turtle Wow briefly, like the last 2 weeks.
Hadn't played WoW for decades.
I felt like Turtle WoW was good, but worse than classic wow, better than TBC, and I thought anything Turtle WoW did wasn't really impressive and easily stuff that Blizzard could do if they wanted to.

I was wrong.
Blizzard couldn't make High Elves.
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This is proof that the community should have remained adamant about #nochanges and never let up. We could have had PURE vanilla. We were so close to going home but you let them ruin it. Sharding, layering, debuff limit removal, nerfing dungeon spam, chronoboon displacer, and then fucking TOILET CRUSADE of all things. Retailtards flooded classic and begged for the pandas again and now classic plus is dead because of YOU. Because you were too weak to hold the line and demand NO CHANGES.
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>>747525656
nobody currently at blizzard actually made the current WoW, they only "legally" own it but nobody respects that ownership for good reason, even Metzen is basically just an idea guy after WC3
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>>747525656
nigga it was FREE, it was FREE FOR SEVEN YEARS!
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>>747523469
i'm sorry and i wish i had nolifed it when it was around
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>>747525934
irrelevant, blizzard itself is dead, you can see this with all the changes they have implemented into retail and classic about names, jokes, etc
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>>747523469
As much as people give shit about playing with thirdies I had a much more positive experience playing this than with classic players(retail rejects) on the anniversary servers.
RIP
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>>747525607
what's the best private server now
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>>747526129
probably one of the turtle spinoffs, people have been slowly rebuilding open source emulation of the last patch and it's pretty much mostly working
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>>747525407
Same bro. Only place that reminded me of release year of WoW. One of the last images I took of my priest before shutdown. Lots of good times and mostly cool people. Still asspained I never got to finish my Smite MC set, but whatever, at least I had fun.
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>>747526184
Im playing Octo wow, its literally turtle wow but earlier patch so only MC and Lower karazan, all the earlier raids, it hd a rough few days because the chinese bug people were DDosing it but it was designed so that if blizzard had another hissy fit it could be reuploaded then next day with everyones characters intact
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>>747525983
And then the owners needed to ensure Putin got paid to avoid the Ukraine war.
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>>747526334
I heard it was Ravencraft doing it out of spite, which yeah China right?
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>>747523469
watch blizzard fucking something up that some vibecoding nerds as a hobby did better
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>>747526334
OctoWoW runs a vibecoded fork of Project Snapjaw which is trying to restore Turtle but as an open source emulation kind of like vMangos, it's kind of behind as the project updates much faster than Octo does and they seem to want to look like the "successor" or something. Snapjaw/Tortoise doesn't have all the raids and quests fixed yet but a fair bit of it is functioning and pretty much all the zones are spawned in I think.
>>747526571
Ravencraft & CapybaraWoW are 100% the same team of people, AKA some splinter of the original owners who want to keep their customers.
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>>747526571
yea it happened the literal day ravencraft launched, they were trying to pillage players because theyre chinese scum

>>747526383
take your meds scizo

>>747526729
the world is incredibly disappointing isn't it
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>>747523638
Its wild I saw people defending that a d the $60 paid fucking beta.
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It looks good desu.
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>>747526991
are blizzdrones a real thing or are they just a very good bot/algorithm that exists on the net?
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>>747526729
They already are.
On top of costing 30 dollars to unlock, they're the only race and SHARED between both sides. I had 5% interest and that's entirely gone now.
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your new race sir
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>>747527034
turtle wow looked better, was better and was free, then blizzard killed it so they could shill blue elves to dumbass's that will eat it up, like you, go pay $30 for your gay ass elf and get the fuck out of here your not convincing anyone that your sane let alone that blizzards wow token bot infested hellhole will be fun either
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>>747527173
I played turtle, it was OK. I will probably play forever too, hehe.
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>>747527097
Bur
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>>747523469
I miss being a high elf...
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>>747527259
a fool and his money are soon parted, im not mad anon im just disapointed
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>>747527354
Oh no, not my $50 or whatever. I'm so sorry to hear that you're disappointed. Just kidding lol.
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>>747527061
No, they're fully real, they've been this exact way since at least SC2 announcement. They would gladly lick dogshit off blizzard corpo boots to unlock a hat for their Vulpera ERP whore. No other base even comes close to comparing to them. Even Star Citizen at least lets you pretend to be in a cult with other ship jpg coomers.
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TWoW is my only real experience with the game. I had pretty much quit by the time Blizzard decided to swoop in and stick their penis in everyone's hopes and dreams so at the very least the shutdown didn't sting as bad as it could have. Between scrounging up enough gold as a warrior to buy consumables and neglecting real life extracurricular activities in favour of showing up for raids, I just had to stop. People aren't kidding when they say the game can turn into a serious timesink if you let it.
>>747526571
I'm not surprised chinks would do something that petty. Remember when they flooded into TWoW? I've never encountered a playerbase with a worse attitude, and not only did they disrupt the server to the point where it was practically unplayable even if you did manage to log in due to the atrocious lag, they almost all invariably suck fucking ass at the game and would regularly do shit like webm related. I will never forget the stupid motherfucker we LFG'd who wiped us multiple times with the living bomb on Baron Geddon, even when being shouted at by multiple people to get away from everyone. Of course he wouldn't admit to any fault and talked shit all the way up to getting kicked from the party. Just a complete fucking shithead.
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>>747527754
Did he Survive?
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>>747527431
>"ya who dusnt hav ten dol3rz?/ i wipe my ass w/ 10 dol3rz!1"
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>>747527097
>>747523638
Did I ever tell you... my favorite color is... BLUE?
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>>747527072
while i think this is bad, its relatively easy to ignore, other than being against it as a matter of principle of course, my biggest concern is how they get people to actually interact with each other. vanilla for me was unironically spending hours in a city looking for a specific group constellation for a dungeon, chatting with those people and spending an hour up in a dungeon where every pack could wipe you if fuck up your cc. if this is in, imma try it
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>>747527848
No, we all died because instead of waiting for me to pull the caster towards us he charged it and aggro'd another pack of mobs.
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>>747527941
>while i think this is bad, its relatively easy to ignore
You can ignore this ridiculous donutsteele new race that doesn't fit in the game at all?
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>>747526991
>>747523638
>$30 race unlock
>$60 beta
>still have to pay $15/mo sub
Genuinely insane. Even Daybreak and Cryptic aren't this greedy.
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>>747527941
yes anon just ignore everything in the game being shit and ruined and wasted potential every time
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I'm sad we won't get to see what they were going to make next. Like new zones or races or anything.
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please somebody revive this properly PLEASE
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Turdle was a scam and I’m glad it’s gone
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>>747528359
It really boggles my mind. They easily could've made them Arakkoa or Ethereals or a dozen other interesting races, but they just did blue BElfs. The difference between that and the effort to ready any of those other races is miniscule at worst. Like days of effort difference tops.
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>>747528550
you can already play it on a repack on your own computer, then just invite your friends by portforwarding to your IP
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>>747528473
The "60$ Beta" includes the race and a month of game time, lil retard
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>>747528359
>>747528474
barking up the wrong tree, i havent touched any form of wow since early BfA and never bought store items, the whole game became shit, i smelled classic being a temorary thing miles away so i didnt touch it. i havent eated the shit blizzard serves quite as much as you guys did so im not against trying this forever thing
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>>747528720
if it was blue blood elves for alliance, and horde got their own race, i'd be fine with it. i'd think it's insanely greedy theyre charging 30 for a race but i could "ignore" it (and never buy it). But the fact they are for both horde and alliance is so fucking hilarious. they look so goddamn out of place in org. goblins worked so well in org, this thing is going to look ridiculous next to orcs. at least blood elves had a SLIGHT bit of edge to them, being mana vampires with glowing green eyes. these are just... i dont even know. cotton candy
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>>747523469
>>747523837
I MISS TURTLE WOW
FUGGGG
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>>747528910
you aren't missing out on anything, this will be shittier than classic and filled with bots too, just play private servers
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>>747523469
/spit
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>>747523469
i played turtlewow when the "new" server was put up, was a cool experience but 1x exp rates was hell (i also made the mistake of playing warrior for the first time on it), i'd rather just play warmane icecrown with all the bots and set my own exp rates

they also seem immune to blizzard's faggotry
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>>747525934
I wanted some quality of life changes, but no "modern audience" changes. Unfortunately we got the opposite.
Stuff that would be cool
>mega server architecture (including sharding)
>no scheduled downtime
>guild chat API for so you can stay chatting from a phone or desktop program
>fixes for certain quests that are INFAMOUSLY bugged
Crap we got:
>Body type A/B
>Sexy paintings replaced with fruit
>sharding, but with 20 isolated servers (with a $20 server transfer fee, of course)
>no bug fixes
>automated chat censorship
>permanent account bans for posting wrongthink in chat
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>>747529323
>ignored tents
Problem in the chair not the computer.
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>no High Elves
>no Ogres
>just a nu-elf Retail race that costs $30 to play

LOL
LMAO
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they sued the real classic+ and gave us slop in a trough
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>>747529435
i did use tents which helped but exp gain still felt low, and also early on when the server first went up i recall there not being tents up consistently
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Here you guys go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMayUMZJ01c
You can play with friends too instead of just bots, just gotta change realmlist.
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>>747528525
There are some bits floating around that they shared before they shut down. Lots of unfinished stuff.

https://imgur.com/a/twow-theorycrafting-channel-future-content-4-18-4-21-I1JAP4y
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>>747525656
Good
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i knew blizzard couldn't compete with this slop when they started taking these pservers down
exact same shit as classic
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>>747529523
That's funny I always felt exp gain was too fast in twow, would often outlevel zones or skip zones entirely. I started only using Slow n Steady on my chars to help alleviate this.
Thank god I got into the Monsters and Memories beta so I don't even have to care about this slop anymore
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>>747523638
niggas are really watermarking AI slop, incredible
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>>747529323
My first real experience with WoW at all was on Turtle as an Undead warrior, the worst class/race combo for warrior on Horde and arguably in the entire game. You just don't got what it takes, son.
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>>747525656
How many years has it been since the last person who worked on the original WoW left?
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>>747529123
i think i will just wait and see how it plays out
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>>747529953
>would often outlevel zones or skip zones entirely
i dont get how, i was doing all the quests in a region and was still really undereleveled, i thought it was kind of annoying that i had to jump between azeroth and eastern kingdoms just to get enough quests to level
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>>747523469
I looked at the talents and they overall look way less interesting than the turtle ones, with the exception of some racials and legacy talents (account progression), though a bunch of them seem pretty broken. A lot of talents seem to be ported or adjusted from other versions (a lot of wrath) and the completely original ones are few and far in between. To be fair, it took turtle a long time to get there, but they were also not one of the largest gaming companies in the whole fucking world. We'll see if they are going to be willing to adjust and further rework classes.
https://turtledb.cthuly.com/talent_calculator/hunter


They haven't even talked about shit like layering, dungeon finder, port stones, world chat, botting (they're not going to), or economy (which is probably going to be gigafucked with some of the legacy talents).
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>>747530298
kalimdor and eastern kingdoms*
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>>747523469
fuck turtle trannies
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>>747530298
I played slow during work by remote connecting to my computer, I think the pace where you could get through a fair bit of things without rushing it was fine
Also, not doing every single fucking zone on one character makes sense, the idea that your character specifically is just going everywhere and solving every problem is retarded so having excess zones for more options is ideal for a varied experience.
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>>747530498
>Also, not doing every single fucking zone on one character makes sense, the idea that your character specifically is just going everywhere and solving every problem is retarded so having excess zones for more options is ideal for a varied experience.
i agree that's why i disliked it, it really felt like i had to do EVERY quest in EVERY zone at my level to get to the appropriate level to move on

were you alliance? maybe its different on horde
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>>747529430
>Stuff that would be cool
>Sharding
Your opinion is bad, and you should stop offering it because your input actively makes the world worse.
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Blizcucks will keep eating the shit and nothing will change
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No, lol.
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>>747529953
>Monsters and Memories beta
Do you have any reason to believe this won't end up just like every other indie MMO early access game?
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>>747530619
Well I certainly didn't feel that, I could stick around in some zones for a good while and get my levels up that way. I stayed primarily in stranglethorn for probably like 6 levels.
I was playing Alliance, tried out the high elves. Also did some goblin but didn't get as far because I started that before I made my other character. Was definitely a fair few zones I ignored questing in that I could've done, but I did the new Turtle zones instead.
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>>747530403
a single gm who was let go, btw
im sure if i showed everyone a picture of you they would think your entire family was a failure following this line of thinking
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>>747530757
idk maybe i was doing something wrong then, it certainly felt like it at times
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>>747530128
Mine was a tauren restoration shaman and everyone kept going "Dude you're leveling as healer?"
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>>747529430
>mega server architecture (including sharding)
>would be cool
What the fuck is wrong with you. That shit is the antithesis of mmos and especially wow in particular.
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>>747530802
Some quests I had often pulled me away into far off zones that I ended up doing piecemeal quests in instead of everything, so maybe my scattered approach made things work out better? I also went to Gijim and Lapidis early on when everything there outleveled me by a lot and did some quests there before I was finished in Stranglethorn.
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>>747530625
Yes, because I want the WORLD of Warcraft, not the 30 isolated ghettos of Warcraft. I want to be able to play with the entire population of the game. And sharding means that any one zone doesn't become a clusterfuck. Guild Wars 2 was able to pull this off easily over a decade ago.
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>>747530762
shut the fuck up shenna
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>>747523469
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Why? They thought this slop looked good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygfvy0fcT_0
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>>747531071
clearly not because it was scrapped
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>>747531141
It was scrapped because they got RICO'd.
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>>747531071
Visuals were planned to be optional. They wanted to bring the base architecture to unreal to make development easier and a different team was working on the graphics side.
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>>747531071
i was curious about trying that but it did look quite ugly desu
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>>747530732
I'm playing it now and its foundation is largely complete, now they're just adding content and adjusting. probably helps the graphics are so simple. its basically just EQ 2.5 so the audience will be niche, no doubt about that, but everything actually functions. also people playing it tend to enjoy playing it, unlike when i tried pantheon or other nu-old mmos where everyone just roasts the devs and the game non-stop. its the least slop indie mmo i've ever played, ill just put it that way. but it can be frustrating with corpse runs, xp loss, solo difficulty, dungeons the size of cities, night time being almost pitch black, etc. definitely will be niche, but i'm loving it.
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>>747531251
Why do that when you could make your own game that would be 100% legal?
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>>747523469
i sowwy
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>>747529953
>slop
>ESL
>m&m fan
Feel free to take your newfag ass back to whichever social media conglomerate you came from.
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>>747531340
That's a totally different topic, but I'm sure you can figure that one out yourself if you want to.
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>>747531071
>>747531230
Another newfag using buzzwords.
The Unreal team was separate from Turtle, and their server is currently up if you want to play WoW Unreal (Emberveil).
Dumb newfag. Stop spewing your filthy underage nonsense all over the website, queer bitch.
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>>747531230
The team behind the Unreal version and Turtle are different, they were still working on the "client" after Turtle got canned.
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>>747531441
The answer is obvious, they knew that if they made their own game, nobody would buy it, and they could only profit off of hosting a cash shop private server for someone else's game.
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>>747531538
I mean that's kind of similar to blizzard considering nobody who made the original game works there anymore
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VGH, WE NEED TO GO BACK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAyno7fURZk
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>>747529857
Oh shit, thanks for the heads up!
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>>747531704
I liked the bit where they started using the Warcraft 3 night elf motif for the ruins
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When are they releasing talent trees?
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>>747531851
Probably more info tomorrow

>mfw think to install retail
>140 fucking gigs
nice try blizz
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>>747532386
how the fuck did they bloat wow that much? that's even bigger than teso
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>>747530403
>>747531007
>Still seething even months after the server shut down
Is there a name for this mental illness?
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>>747523469
>We at blizzard know what you want best payers ;)
>*adds a $30 paywall* *adds retail to classic*
>PAY UP GOY
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>>747523469
No.
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>>747532454
Classic (which includes SoD and hardcore) is only 30 gigs by comparison.
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>>747532710
Which also makes no sense cause vanilla is like 1.4gb, even Wrath never leves 10gb
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>>747523469
Epoch was always better
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>>747532464
Blizzdroneitis
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>>747532786
3.3.5a wrath is 16.6GB apparently
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>>747532454
Game has been out since 2004 and has 11 expansions, they compose an entirely new soundtrack for every expansion and many of the newer expansions have voice acting.
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>>747532786
Wasn't WotLK like 15gb? Pretty sure that's the number I remember after downloading it like 10 times over decades for various private servers.
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>>747532887
My bad then, how big is TBC though?
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>>747532887
>that yen symbol
playing plenty of hentai games
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>>747531851
Going to take a hot minute. Here are 2/3 legacy skill trees, which are account wide skill trees, that every character gets access to. It seems like they are also tied to seasons, since there are rewards tied to it as well, with the highest being a mount.
The tree missing is mostly to crafting gathering it seems one of the first two talents is 100% more scarce materials from mining, herbalism and skinning if you 5/5 it.
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>>747533242
>Spoilers.
No ty
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>>747532943
about 8GB
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>>747533242
Man, I should have read that last sentence again after reformatting.
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I'll never forgive blizzard entertainment. My hate will be eternal. I only pray there is a place in hell waiting for each and every one of these corporate cocksucking developers and players who killed something as pure and beautiful as Turtle.

All this for fucking blue elves
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>>747531456
A man made of buzzwords claiming other people are using buzzwords. Extremely funny.
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Never.
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>>747533612
>no u
Lurk for three more years before posting again.
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I just want to know how this got greenlit. Who at Blizzard saw the endless decades worth of comments about how horde and alliance being distinct entities and how classicfa(n/g)s want horde to stay horde and they say actually they want gay blue elves that they share with alliance. Just how the fuck. I'm actually in awe at how much of a bubble working at Blizz must be like. I figured at the very least they would have a slam dunk giving Horde their own race and Alliance their, but I could have never imagined this decision. Oh yeah, and then charging 30 bucks for it, my sides.
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>>747528473
It's what blizzfags deserve for betraying the original WoW.
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>>747533971
>the original WoW.
Warcraft?
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>>747533742
>>747533742
Is the only thing you're able to do is call people new? Every single one of your posts is essentially just that.
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>>747534015
NOW you're thinking with zugzugs.
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>>747534058
Stop acting like a newfag and posting newfag buzzwords and vernacular, little kiddo. 4chan is an 18+ website.
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>>747534147
And, pray tell, is the year you started browsing these holy sanctified grounds?
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>>747534094
Dont touch me there!
Werk
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>>747534267
So you can mock any answer I give? Lurk moar and stop posting. You do not have to respond to every person who replies to you. This obsession of any obligatory last word is another trait of your newfaggotry.
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>>747534367
No, I will believe any answer you give. You sound and behave like a sincere, genuine, and earnest person. I just simply want to know.
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>>747527754
If anything I miss dealing with retarded hunters pulling shit with pets or warriors doing this vs the aoe idiocy modern vanilla wow is
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>>747534367
>>747534542
Gay lovers squander



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