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First W in a while, thanks, blizz.
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>>747525095
why are you just telling blatant lies, noone wants this, the anouncement is genuinly sickening to me because they killed turtle wow, the actual classic + server that was free so they could sell gay ass blue elves to retards for half a year before the servers shut down, truly people like you are either being paid to say, trolling this or are mentally retarded, either way you genuinely have my pity
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Ah yes, it's that time of the month where crusty ass boomers are crawling out of their holes yelling "we're so back" while their favorite content creators shit out the latest basedface-fueled, totally honest "reaction content", right before doompostjng "it's over" a few weeks later.
Yes anon, you're totally "going home".
Yes anon, this is totally the next big thing.
Just consume the latest reheated corporate sludge and fresh out of the microwave, and call me whatever you consider "other tribe" to make up for it you goodest of all goygolems.
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what the fuck Blizzard?
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>>747525095
Been there, done that. It will never be as fun as it originally was. Only people still playing WoW are the addicts.
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>>747525304
>they killed turtle wow
I loved twow and I was sad when they killed it.
>noone wants this
I think many people want this. blizz experimented for years and finally took p-server ideas.
>half a year before the servers shut down
It will be forever
>either way you genuinely have my pity
I don't need your pity, I gave up on WoW years ago, played on p-servers and had my fun there. I'm happy for fresh new air (classic+) and all the new and oldfags joining together.
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>2026
>still playing MMOs
So, how old were you when your parents divorced?
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Selling people nostalgia, FOREVER.
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>>747525551
>I gave up on WoW years ago
>played on p-servers and had my fun there. I'm happy for fresh new air (classic+)
So you never gave up on wow?
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>>747525608
>So you never gave up on wow?
Just "official" shit and I played twow for a couple months, until they closed that shit last year
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>>747525095
Why is this in tranny bright blue and purple colors? They've been doing this in modern games for a while now but why? Do those colors sissify people?
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>>747525531
lol that you were (are) seriosly buying this

I do like my OG WoW Collector's Edition box, because it actually MEANS something and represents a landmark from that era.... this is just junk.
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>>747525598
>So, how old were you when your parents divorced?
I'm 28, I grew up with WoW, my substance abusing parents played it day 1.
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>>747525531
i remember times when i just went to local game store and got my collectors of WotLK (and others)
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>>747525551
noone wants the gay ass blue elves they only exist to be sold to retards and the servers will last less time than SoD which they also fumbled and were also bot ridden hellholes,i seriously pity anyone who pays money for this
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they really should rework A LOT other than make another old server, game has such interesting story but after all these years they still want to give with a bunch of random text behind the most boring side quests and hope I will pay attention and connect the dots after weeks of same dull motion
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How did the French manage to make the best MMORPG of 2026?
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>>747525807
I don't really like the transelves, but I'm hyped. Can't talk on SoD, never played that shit, but I remember the first WoW classic release.
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>>747525531
shipping means you get a whole ass ship, thats why
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>>747525813
No, I'm glad they went this route. Everything after WoTLK is SHIT. People like oldschool WoW.
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>>747525724
You are projecting your own paranoia and insecurities on random things you see. Consider therapy or taking a long break from the internet.
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>>747525095
>>747519350
>>747522206
Saying "Classic WoW Plus" is the same as saying "Beef Wellington topped with diarrhea". No one wants DEI foidslop influences in their perfect old world kino game
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>>747525982
This isn't oldschool WoW though, this is just the modern devs find new ways to shit up the original old version of the game, dressing it up as a "return home" sort of things. They're already adding new zones and races. This will end the exact same way as retail and people will come to hate it over time.

You are never going back home. This is it. You're stuck here. FOREVER.
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>>747525760
Well I sure am not with that shipping price lol. I mean it has some pretty decent looking physical things, warcraft 3 reforged DLC, and I just like the idea of something between vanilla and retail.
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>>747526147
Please take your meds, trannyjeetboomer. I'm so sick and tired of poorfags trying to ruin everything.
>It will be Retail
It will not, there will be community votes, careful selection of patches, quests, gear and so on. If I want to play vanilla, I'll boot up vanilla. I just don't want boring ass vanilla without nothing added and I don't want soidiscovery.
>You are never going back home.
It was never my home.
>You're stuck here. FOREVER.
Yep, in WoW-Forever, forever.
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>>747525902
>but I'm hyped
you sincerely, and i mean this genuinely, have my pity, a fool and his money are soon parted
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>>747526424
>community votes
It's so over
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>>747526459
oh no not 15 dollars whatever will i do about 15 dollars
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Sirs... I am thinkeing blizard is for the win !

mrmm yess i going to buy now... blizard is /our company/

*bobbles head*

>ip count was deleted for threads like this
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>>747525095
you are all a bunch of haters. its gonna be fun for a few months at least. it will likely be shit after that, but at least we got something
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>>747525095
It's a fitting name
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>>747526459
>a fool and his money are soon parted
Nigga I never pay for games and I stopped playing retail years ago.
>>747526686
>shill
I don't care about blizzard, they ruined every fucking game, I'm just hyped for classic +. Even IF it turns to shit and people just play it for a month, who cares? 15 bucks for a month full of fun doesn't sound bad.
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>>747526992
least obvious shill

>who cares if it sucks... its just 15 dollars of your money given to the shittiest company in the world for the most stale flavor of the month gameplay thats 20 years old with minor additions... just pay up bro

lol
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>>747526992
People here really pretend like 15 dollars is a lifechanging amount like yeah giving money to modern blizzard isn't something to boast about but holy fuck it's not that big of a deal
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>>747525095
This reboot won't last a year.
Retail is clearly failing which is why they created this but all they created is another retail
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>>747525095
Can never really replace vanilla as it exists on era, but I'll stay play it.
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>>747525095
Is this the Classic+ announcement? Whats the deal? I was a sleep. If its just Vanilla with a bunch more zones, that's sounds fine enough
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I can't believe they're really going to force me to play World of Warcraft from my teenage years to my deathbed in a retirement home
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>>747525095
no. never gonna pay blizzard, ever. private servers are fair game though.
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>>747527424
>Is this the Classic+ announcement? Whats the deal? I was a sleep. If its just Vanilla with a bunch more zones, that's sounds fine enough
yep, this. seems like it's turtle wow with better pvp and not as niche
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>>747525095
It's complete dogshit, shillbot-kun.
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>>747526459
I'd sooner assume he's being united with money by making these posts.
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>>747526424
You are in denial, man. Check back in with us in 4 years or something when they've added even more new content that half the community fucking hates and sends death threats to the devs over it.

This has all happened before, and it will all happen again. Insulting your fellow anons on here changes nothing.
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>>747527424
tl;dr
>more dungeons
>3 new zones
>a new (paywalled) race of reskinned blue blood elves that look like more californiaslop
>more race/class combinations
>achievements
>transmog
>battlepass
>WoD character models (but you can toggle them off)
>new talents (several of them are ripped from retail)
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>>747527880
they’re giving people that’s been screaming for classic+ what they want. i fully expect that there’ll be hate for forever because people will never be happy with anything.
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looks kinda gay
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>>747525095
>paid mmo

nah
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>>747528068
people who wanted classic+ wanted transmog, achievements, WoD character models, a battle pass, and retail-esque eyesore blood elf recolor #4825?
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>>747527880
Okay, I'm sorry. But can actual real WoW gaymers say something please? I'm not even that deep into WoW, I played a couple retail expansions and I really liked WoW Classic with frens, so I'm just hoping Classic + will be just as hyped as Classic + back then and we can all have a good time together.

I wonder what real WoW OG's think about this shit?
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>>747528206
Real WoW gamer here. Night Elves owe me sex.
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>>747528198
yeah? i’ve seen people asking for it. it’s impossible to please everyone.
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>>747525531
trump tariffs
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>>747525095
>already starting the domino effect of all races playing all classes
it won't have an identity of its own after the first patch. it'll be homogenous slop, just like retail.
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>>747528281
Retail players wanted those things, retard.
Just as it was retail players who horked like seals when classic got raped with level boosts.
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skyborne are proof enough for me that blizzard still doesn't understand classic+
no one wants your latest OC flavour of blood elves, give us the actual Warcraft universe races people have been asking for for decades
also neutral races don't belong in classic+ if you're too fucking cheap to make more than one race for launch then don't and wait until you've made a second one
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GW3 will be the final mmorpg worth playing
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>>747528329
>it'll be homogenous slop, just like retail.
Because it's made by the same developers that made retail WoW what it is.
They literally can't do any differently, and anyone who thought otherwise was mentally insane.
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>>747528368
>muh retail boogeyman
lmfao
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>>747528368
you don’t speak for every classic player
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so.. 2 new zones (+skyborne starting zone) that’s it?
I thought the world and the journey is where it’s at?
where’s all the kino SoD content?
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>>747525095
>pre-purchase now
so you can't play it with just the sub like classic?
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>>747528436
Stay with me here: retail is bad.
>>747528450
I do, actually. Just not the retail parasites that have co-opted classic.
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>>747528368
Seals don't hork.
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MMO cucks are basically retarded manchildren
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>>747526686
>tim evil
he wouldn't do this, he isn't like tim apple
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New racial changes are insane.
Alliance:
>Human: Will to Survive - Removes stuns. Perception - Detect stealthed enemies for 20 sec. Sword Specialization - Swords increase spell and ability crit chance by 2%. The Human Spirit - Spirit increased by 5%.
>Dwarf: Stoneform - Immunity to bleeds, poisons and diseases and reduces physical damage taken for 8 sec.* Find Treasure - unchanged. Mace Specialization - Maces increase spell and ability chance by 1%. Big Game Hunter - Damage to Beasts increased by 5%.
>Night Elf: Elune's Light - Increases crit chance by 10% for 15 sec. Shadowmeld - Stealth while immobile. Quickness - 1% dodge + 2% movement speed. Wisp Spirit - unchanged.
>Gnome: Escape Artist - Brief immunity to roots and snares. Eureka! - Reduced cost and 10% increased damage/healing for your next 3 spells or abilities. Expansive Mind - Maximum mana, rage or energy +5%. Engineering Specialization - Engineering devices are more reliable.
>Skyborne: Walk on Air - Glide downward for 10 sec. Wind Blessed - 1% melee, ranged and spell-casting haste. Elemental Insight - Damage to Elementals +5%, Read Ley Line gives +100% health and mana regeneration.
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>>747528559
you can, but you have to pay for the new race and their starting zone
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>>747528706
Horde:
>Orc: Blood Fury - Attack power and spell power +10% for 15 sec. Shatter Curse - Immunity to curses and banes and reduced magic damage taken for 8 sec. Axe Specialization - Axes increase spell/ability crit by 1%. Hardiness - Stun duration reduced by 20%.
>Undead: Will of the Forsaken - Removes Charm, Fear and Sleep. Cannibalize - unchanged. Underwater Breathing - unchanged. Touch of the Grave - Attacks can sometimes drain health from the target.
>Tauren: War Stomp - Stuns nearby enemies for 2 sec. Cultivation - Grow bonus herbs that don't require Herbalism to gather. Plainsrunning - Movement speed increases the longer you remain moving. Endurance - Total health +5% and hit chance +1%.
>Troll: Berserking - Casting and attack speed +10% for 10 sec. Rapid Regeneration - Regenerate 50% of maximum health over time. Beast Slaying - Damage to Beasts +5%. Regeneration - 10% of health regeneration continues during combat.
>Skyborne: Walk on Air - Glide downward for 10 sec. Wind Blessed - 1% melee, ranged and spell-casting haste. Elemental Insight - Damage to Elementals +5%, Skysight gives an elemental blessing granting +10% movement speed.
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>>747528068
Exactly, they can never make this crowd of grognards happy. Right now this functions as a stopgap measure and they get the hardcore fans excited for "new nostalgia" but over time it will once again devolve into them resenting and hating what was done to the game, just like what's happened two times before.

This only ever ends one way, but by the time the players realize that, Blizzard will have extracted many years' worth of subscription fees from them. And then they can sell them more nostalgia bait!
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>>747525095
thank god, you niggers can all go back to this and stop trying to ruin osrs
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>>747525095
weak bait, next thread now.
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>>747527928
>achievements
oh boy, can't fucking wait...
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>>747528963
um if you don't like it just like ignore it or something chuddy
we, yes WE of the classic+ community think this is a gigantic W and we've been clamoring for this addition to the game for years
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>>747527269
they could pay me those 15 dollars to play and it wouldn't be wroth it
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>>747525095
>severely gimped version of other classic+ servers
>made with the cutesy wholesome reddit values of modern blizz
I'm not saying it's completely without merit but I'm really not that enthusiastic about it. Also blue elves are ugly.
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>>747525095
ugly pastel colored garbage
fuck modern blizzard
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>>747528706
>>747528765
Nelf, gnome and undead look spicy. I wonder warlock dots can trigger the undead drain health passive.
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>the appeal of Classic is that it's close enough to vanilla that nu-blizz hasn't mucked it up yet
>Homebros now want nu-blizz to muck it up
What the FUCK causes this phenomenon?
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>>747525304
>why are you just telling blatant lies
these drones have been waiting for anything classic+ for ages so they need to convince themselves that all the dogshit blizzard showed is actually good or else they'll go insane
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Wow, Blizzard really sent their shillbot farms at this conundrum of people laughing at this garbage huh?
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>>747526424
>Blizzcon spent 2 minutes on a 'community' section which was a joke about how the community has no idea what it wants and moved on.
What part of the community wanted Skyborne?
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Everyone is so mad over Skyborne, I wonder if they'll remove it. They keep emphasizing how much they're listening to feedback.
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>>747529160
Addiction ravages the mind like nothing else.
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>>747529160
>What the FUCK causes this phenomenon?
Retoilets have infested the classic community.
Surely you saw the influx of posts by supposed hard working gamer dads praising blizzard for letting them buy wholesome chungus level boosts in classic?
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>>747529127
I imagine so, it looks like they didn't gate this at all. The bonuses mostly benefit every class.
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>>747529186
You know they're bots because if WoW were actually that good, they'd be too busy playing it to defend it on 4chan.
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>>747529196
>What part of the community wanted Skyborne?
The Devs and or story writes, the community didn't influence the making of the game. First community votes will happen, when the game is out. That was an opinionated choice.
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>>747528963
I have never met a genuinely good and intelligent player that couldn't find a raiding guild.
Keep in mind that guilds that require meta/achievements/GS are the equivalent of 3rd world pug groups that are just as retarded as the other 99% of the playerbase that struggle to consistently clear.
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>>747529196
I especially love how that poster brings up "community votes", as if turning WoW content into fucking REDDIT will somehow make this good.

Absolutely incredible logic.
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>>747529302
>Don't pay attention to what we already know exists
>Believe my baseless assumption about what I think will happen in the future
No.
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>>747528706
>>747528765
>Sword spec gives 2% crit
>All others give 1%
Human race best race.
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>>747525095
literally a downgrade over ascension in every single way
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>>747525095
100% gonna be as half-assed as SoD.
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>>747525095
Modern Blizzard is still pozz'd.
Also, why did they decide to make sky blue elves instead of making high elves playable for the Alliance?
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>>747525095
>add thousands of new quests
>level cap stays at 60
What's the point of all these new quests then? The level cap should be 999 and every level past 60 gives a small stat boost
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I let out an audible sigh as soon as the bear started galloping through the snow chasing the wisp in the trailer, then sighed even harder when it was lying on its back playing with the wisp like some sort of golden retriever. It's actually a huge middle finger to how serious and masculine the original trailer was.
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>>747528706
NE and Gnome look by far the best
>>747528765
Orc and Tauren both great
If the Skyborne Read Leyline ability works in combat they're going to be very BIS for healers
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>>747529254
Gotta love them gamerdads that have 1 hour a week to play WoW but for some reason that one hour is really fucking important to them so they gotta shill out 200 dollars a month on gametime, some retarded mount, pet and a level boost and ruin the game for normal players in the process.
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>>747529562
but it's so quirky chungus
can i pet that daaaawggg
i love my pupperino, my fluffin borker
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>>747528706
>+100% health and mana regeneration.
Depending on how this works it's going to be broken for healers
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>>747529817
look bub i have 4 jobs and 5 of my wife's children to look after you can't expect me to play your game. i'll give you 60 bucks to let me skip the gameplay. thanks
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>>747528765
I haven't played WoW in like 17 years and never will again but the orc racial of 25% chance to resist stun was the best. 20% reduction is lame. 25% chance for a rogue's 'I win and you can't do anything' button to get fucked over was priceless.
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>>747529859
When will they delete the undead race for being too offensive and against the wholesome spirit of the game and the company

Really bringing down the vibes, these depressed skeletons that can't stop coughing, also they're not colorful enough
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>balding fat boomers when they didn't get the same exact game they just played.
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>>747529562
yeah fucking cringe modern blizzard run by women shit
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>>747530107
>eah fucking cringe modern blizzard run by women shit

NYEAAH!!!!
WOMEN DONT KNOW MEEE!
>Because I dont know women
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>yooo haha.. we got classic+. this is great. i'm so excited.. haha.. can't wait to play a skyborn. yoooo forsaken paladins? that's.. amazing... oh, achievements? i love achievements.. uhh.. yeah, this is great... this is all i ever wanted...
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>>747529817
>Gotta love them gamerdads that have 1 hour a week to play WoW but for some reason that one hour is really fucking important to them so they gotta shill out 200 dollars a month
I stopped being a NEET and all the 30+ dudes I know are like this. They always buy high end gear, ultra deluxe edition, trying to min/max. Poor dads
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>>747530185
we all know you dont believe what youre saying lol
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>Pay $15 a month to tard-wrangle 39 other players for the 100th time, except now the bosses have new skins.

No thanks.
I was already the best player on my server and in the top guild. There's not much left to accomplish after that. It's the kind of experience you do once and never feel the need to do again.
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>>747530198
Literally who?
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Why are people complaning about the Skyborne? They are just Highborne that made a pact with air elementals.
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think they're going to bring player housing to classic+?
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>>747530198
>
He literally is on uppers and has autism, so he gets a pass. i dont think hes a shill
i think you just hate blizzard
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>>747525095
Can someone explain what exactly Forever is as someone who knows nothing about WoW?
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>>747530334
if there’s demand for it
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>>747530198
Yeah you can see him slowly dying inside throughout the stream
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>>747525095
Could they have come up with a gayer name?
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>>747530293
No one who wanted something made to build on classic's original spirit wanted hamfist shitty blue elf recolors with 0 roots or foundations in the classic wow setting pushed by some foid who can't play a game unless there's an elf in it with bright neon hair colors
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>>747530290
You're literally nobody. And that is Xaryu, and he is rich and famous.
Why do fucking retards do dumb shit like this
trying to pretend they dont know him when you;re a literal nobody like what?
Fucking unc
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>>747526595
Exactly! WoW has, by far, some of the most retarded, dunning-kruegar fagollas in their community.
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>>747530198
Don't bully Xaryu, he's only like 85 IQ, he doesn't know things and he can't know things
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>>747528206
Well if I'm trying to emulate the experience of vanilla wow then I can't read up on any of the features so I can't tell you.
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>>747530338
I think you might be autistic as well if you think my post was calling him a shill.
>>747530418
Many such cases. It's a dark day for classic+ dreamers.
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>>747525598
Aion 2 though man it's gonna be The One.
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>>747530505
old media good new media bad
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>>747530290
He's a nobody
Payroll blizzard shill
He plays MMOs if blizzard makes them, he plays RTS if blizzard makes them, but to be fair, he did play Minecraft which isn't a blizzard game, but he only played it because the craft at the end confused him.
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>>747529508
It seems like they want you to make a bunch of alts cause theres also way more dungeons now too.
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>>747530624
Does the cycle ever break?
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>>747530290
Please understand, pathetic losers who form parasocial attachments to ecelebs have this problem where they assume everyone else sucks as much cock as they do.
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>>747530198
What happend to his hairline? This looks like norwood 3. He used to be such a cute fucking twink.
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>>747530376
it's the postmenopausal woman version of millennials adding "X" to brand names to make them sound cool
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>>747530651
You're a nobody.
A fat fuck on 4chan, trying to convince others that a man who had 70k+ people watching his stream doesnt know him.
Next.
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>>747530663
Yes, when you have something in your life worth caring about more than video games.
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>>747530376
They are rebooting it, like they rebooted it last time

But this time it will be good and only have the good additions, none of the bad additions! Pinky promise!
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>>747530651
>but he only played it because the craft at the end confused him.
kek
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>>747530505
Sorry, never heard of him so as far as I'm concerned, he's an absolute nobody. Also, you need to be 18+ to use 4chan, champ.
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man you guys are far too hostile over a video game. im probably gonna play it for a month or two and then get bored and move on. gonna be fun.
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This just doesn't seem classic.
Were Skyborne ever even implied to exist in the original WoW classic? For even a moment?
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>>747530764
Sorry who are you?
You're a nobody.
Xaryu has hundreds of thousands of subscribers.
Who are you again?
OHHH nobody.
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>>747530728
>who had 70k+ people watching his stream
roughly 70k people have also cummed in his wife since they got together btw
they're pretty open swingers it was leaked a while ago
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>>747530376
They made a new server but this new server only goes up to the original first expansion
Everyone starts new with new characters and level up again
However, this time they are adding new things like new raids and zones to the original experience.

What baffles me the most is that retards think that altering what made the original WoW good is something they want, and even worse, it's being done by the woke trans retards that completely destroyed their own lore and added a bunch of retarded gay shit to their game, but somehow they believe it won't happen again this time.
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>>747530651
Geeeeeeeeeg.
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>30 bucks for ONE race
Gonna make an UD rogue called Goyslayer and only target those.
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>>747530749
Says the man in a 4chan thread
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>>747530809
Probably retconning them in with the WC3 expansion. Same with Undead Paladins.
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>>747530684
Shut up, he's rocking a Vegeta
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>>747530823
wow, you sure told them, really handed their ass to them, goddamn, what a sick burn dude

absolutely kino, insane flex there, holy shit
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>>747530376
>Can someone explain what exactly Forever is as someone who knows nothing about WoW?
It's the old classic WoW everyone loves
But not as ugly and dated as 2004 vanilla
With new balancing and enhanced areas
Small tweaks and little content changes
It's basically a remake/remaster
But not as boring as real vanilla
Without the disgusting retail addons
it will stay true to the original
they will add moar content, but slow and steady
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>>747530861
Ok but hes a somebody
and you're a nothing nobody.
Next!
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>>747530809
It's not Classic, Blizz are doing A Realm Reborn starting from vanilla.
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>>747530861
>they're pretty open swingers it was leaked a while ago
Honestly? I couldn't think of anything more fitting for a wow streamer.
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>>747530912
Wow, you sure showed them that Xaryu, the face of WoW, is unknown.
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I wish ICE could just arrest Blizzfaggots. This is fucking disgusting.
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>>747525095
We're going home bros
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Why is blizzard still leaning so heavily into the whole "war" trope when they have gay looking blue elves as a playable race, you can't even set your name to anything problematic, and they've removed all of the gore?
Oh, and no skeletons either because apparently those are illegal in china
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>>747530937
>Next!
t. Xar's wife after her 10th man of the day
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>>747530728
Literally no one gives a shit about streamers and none of them would get recognized on the street, it’s all industry plant goons with botted views
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>>747531020
>We're going home bros
Asmon will stream this from 1-60, btw.
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>>747531082
Yeah you're talking about different things now, because you failed at trying to make people believe hes unknown???????
???? For what purpose exactly?
Idk but you're a fucking weird dumb ass
Next!
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>>747525531
Higher shipping cost with tariffs and fuel prices
Say thank you, President Trump
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>>747525531
>pounds
Nice butter teeth, buck tooth beaver boy
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this is like the what 7th time blizzard is opening up a wow private server
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Redditors still justifying the exclusion of Ogres as a playable race because the armor wouldn't fit or it would look stupid when blizzard made a fat human race for one of it's retail expansions
Why are blizzard so dead set on not giving the player base what they want and why are redditors such miserable sacks of meandering shit
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I am extremely afraid that despite being able to toggle low def models, they will still have the gay ass bouncy retail animations.
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What does our girl hazelnuttygames think about this? Waiting for her opinion before I form my own
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>>747531272
fucking retard
low iq gorilla
kill yourself now
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>>747531098
>it’s all industry plant goons with botted views
just like nu-blizzard then?
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>>747530680
>pathetic losers who form parasocial attachment
It's so weird to see, I almost wanna say he's trolling, but idk if this:
>>747530505
>>747530728
>>747530937
>>747531131
guy is just mindbroken?
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>>747525095
>WoW Forever
What a stupid name..
>Disneyfying WoW, just like retail
Oh yeah.. Makes sense now..
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can anyone explain to me why with the wow classic reboot/reborn w/e it's called
why does it seem like blizzard's approach is solely to stick to the baseline world of azeroth as it was in classic
instead of taking the aspects of the later expansions that were agreed on to be good and backporting them into classic using classics artstyle, gamefeel, and tone?

to me a 'forever' world of warcraft doesn't just mean rereleasing classic it means actually fucking expanding on classic in a meaningful way and im not talking about a few hundred new quests, a few new raids, and a few new dungeons.
i mean like, make the eastern kingdoms and kalimdor physically fucking bigger. make it take longer to get from place to place. new towns. new villages. new cities. revamp the geography of the world as it is to shake things up for players.
we know northrend physically exists, why the fuck can't we go there? it would be incredibly cool to see in classic's visual style. it's not like nothing is going on over there just because arthas is asleep.
add new areas. take things like mage towers and brawlers guild and expand on them.
add incentives for players to gain and show mastery with their class. experiment with things like delves but don't treat them like a separate gearing system like retail does.

they literally have 20+ years of content, models, designs, dungeons, raids, animations, classes, abilities to use and they're just saying fuck it, let's make classic again but sprinkle in slightly more stuff
like, they have the easiest home run of all time set up for them over and over again but instead choose to bunt and walk to first. it's so fucking baffling.
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>>747531368
>>747531368
>>747531368
>>747531368
>>747531368
I mass reply like a faggot
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>>747531245
ogres are just fat orcs and nobody likes wow orcs people will pick troll or undead over orc
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>>747531245
redditors are also praising undead paladins, which is even more egregious than the skyborne elves
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>>747531368
>guy is just mindbroken?
Says the weirdo who lies about reality? KEK
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>>747530981
i have absolutely no idea who xaryu is, friendo

i do not give shit about wow and i am laughing at you, your weird parasocial relationship with some ecelebrity that will never know who you are and this stupid forever nonsense

enjoy your slop, i guess
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FUCK YES THEY ADDED THE SOUL DUST AND FOG EVERYWHERE. LETS FRICKING GO GAMERS. SO HYPED!
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>>747530891
enjoy getting hunters marked by human hunters from 60yd away
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>>747531272
>they will still have the gay ass bouncy retail animations.
nah, they announced they reverted back to classic animations even when using hd models
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>>747531548
cool. xaryu live stream 12k people
Next!
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I was watching the blizzcon with a fren on discord, we had a beer and laughed at every fucking announcement, except Classic+. We were so happy, but you guys make me want to hate this... why are you fuckers against it? I don't even like Blizz or Microslop, but I can't wait to play this with my homie (we are not gay, but I will probably heal him)
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look guys im sorry
we just cannot build on classic without achievements, transmog, hd disney models, a battle pass and smurf blood elves who come from a city in the sky nobody ever heard of
it just isn't possible
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Blizzard is still very salty that some russians stole their idea a decade ago
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IF you don't have anything nice to say, maybe don't say it at all.

Game gonna do fine just like all the other blizzard releases.
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>>747531550
Just like my based and redpilled private servers!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0nQ0oIsMak
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>>747531620
>Blizzard is still very salty that some russians stole their idea a decade ago
They looked salty on stage flaunting their money and prices with smiles on their faces

What Russians? What?
The fuck? Anyways, time to play WoW!
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>>747531535
What are you talking about?
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>>747531637
>IF you don't have anything nice to say, maybe don't say it at all.
So true. No negativity in the dojo. We, yes WE here on 4channel dot org /V/ love, LOVE Blizzard Entertainment. And if you don't like that, you're better off leaving or just staying quiet, okay?
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>>747531620
>Blizzard is still very salty that some russians stole their idea a decade ago
Imagine what companies with unlimited budget can do with such great ideas! Imagine companies taking fan projects and mods serious! It will be awesome, right.. right?
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>>747530505
frfr unc be wildin nocap onskibidi
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>>747531407
Stopped reading here.
>why does it seem like blizzard's approach is solely to stick to the baseline world of azeroth as it was in classic
That isn't what they're doing. There are tons of areas in classic wow that should have a zone and half of them were unfinished and locked away. People always wanted to go there, then they ruined the game. They are putting back in cut content.
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>>747525095
After watching the actual gameplay, it's just retail WoW with a Classic paintjob, it's gonna be exactly what you think it is
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>>747531764
>Stopped reading here.
lmfao
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>>747531573
Oh thank god
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>>747531770
When was the last time you played retail?
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>>747531770
Everything is reail wow to niller cryboomers
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>>747529562
I agree, maybe i'm cynical and jaded but it did have that HR vibe of inoffensiveness
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>>747531746
This is you unc.
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>>747531802
BFA, it was atrocious
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>>747531825
frfr skibidifanum :skull:
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>>747531770
Wait, you can press more than 1 button and people in dungeons and raids actually have mechanics that they have to watch out for?
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>>747531648
I'm genuinely curious as to how much Blizz pays you to post here? Do they pay you in rupees?
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>>747531825
I wish I was a tradie I would be rich.
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>>747531368
I think it's just hard to take people like you who are in their 40s and haven't left your mom's basement yet seriously when you claim a streamer is a nobody
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>>747531869
It is about as pozzed as BfA-era WoW, yeah.
And that's at the start, not over a decade and a half into the game.
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>>747531887
Talking like a faggot wont reverse your male pattern baldness, uncle
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Everything I've seen about Forever looks good except for these jabronis. They literally look like someone tinted the color of blood elves in photoshop, and called it a day.
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>>747531770
>it's gonna be exactly what you think it is
anyone with a fuckin brain can see that except the tards in this thread defending this shit
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>>747531962
>Everything I've seen about Forever looks good
achievements, transmog, WoD models, battlepasss
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>>747530861
>they're pretty open swingers it was leaked a while ago
QRD?
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>>747531939
fr unc be skibidibabidin all up in this gyatt nocap ohio sheeeeesh
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>>747532000
why don't you want achievements and (opt-in) transmogs
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>>747531939
oh my god is that a sassy woman reaction image?
I KNEEL XIS I HAVE BEEN DEFEATED
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>people are already playing it
>people already know talents, racial passives
>beta in less than a week, everyone is going to try to get to the new zones and/or solved everything new
It's already ruined. I say this with no hyperbole at all. It has already completely failed to capture the magic that was vanilla.
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>>747532028
uncle angy rn
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>>747531962
>Everything I've seen about Forever looks good except for these jabronis.
I fully agree... this is dogpoo, like wtf. Everything announced was great, but why these fuckers?
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>>747532030
if transmog is on by default its not opt-in
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>>747532000
>doesnt affect anything
>can turn off
>can turn off
>shitty
1/4 is good for nublizz
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ASMON SAID HE GONNA FUNNEL ALL THE GEAR TO HIM AND HIS GF.

We're raiding with him r-right?
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>>747531962
This is specifically a fuck you from a blizzard tranny refusing to put high elves into the game and instead you get the blue retail tranny insert from what was it shadowlands reskinned as an elven race
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>>747531982
>the tards in this thread defending this shit
(paid shillbots)
the immediate reactions to this shit were unanimously negative. then (((suddenly))) it started being vehemently defended and propped up by posters who all post the exact same way and do the same passive aggressive "um sweaty" shtick
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>WoW with controller gameplay
this will be total ass even with 1 button gameplay, the UI is made for PC. FF UI is made for consoles.
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>>747532040
>I HAVE BEEN DEFEATED
Your hairline has been defeated, old man. Uncle. Uncle Uncle Uncle.
I know that triggers cuz it makes you reply like a dumb fag
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>>747532074
>link achievement or no invite :)
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>>747532071
gotta have blood elves in the game in some form, because they’re the most popular race
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>>747532074
Proving that retailfags are the only ones who're behind this "classic plus"
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>>747531889
Fucking lol this guy here trying to pretend retail has more depth. You literally AOE face roll the entire content in retail.
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>>747525531
More like forever alone edition
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>>747531012
Modern Blizzard is basically a CIA front so yeah that ain't happening.
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>>747532078
Such an unnatural relationship, Asmon is clearly having a mid life crisis, like is he blind?
She literally finds him revolting and is waiting for him to die or she will poison him for his money like wtf is Assmon doin?
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>>747532119
>Uncle. Uncle Uncle Uncle.
He yields
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Anyone using "W's" and "L's" without a shred of irony are genuinely some of the dumbest people on the planet.
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>>747525304
Cry about it gypsy europoor.
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>>747532060
>it's august 2004
>WoW is releasing in november
>people are already playing the beta
>people already know talents, racial passives
>everything is datamined and published
It's already ruined. I say this with no hyperbole at all. It has already completely failed to capture the magic that was EQ.
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>>747532257
big blizzard Ws today
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Wait... do people really think this is better than nu-bluelves?
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>>747532249
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Today, September 12th, 2026 - a date which will live in infamy - classic+ was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Blue Elves.
No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the classic+ people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory.
I believe that I interpret the will of the Alliance and of the Horde when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost but will make it very certain that this form of treachery shall never again endanger us.
Hostilities exist.
There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory, and our interests are in grave danger. With confidence in our armed forces—with the unbounding determination of our people—we will gain the inevitable triumph—so help us God.
I ask that the shitposters declare that since the unprovoked and dastardly attack by the Blue Elves on Saturday, September 12th, 2026, a state of war has existed between the classic+ playerbase and Blizzard.
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>>747525095
>we're doing classic
>again
>please buy it
>we promise to keep it classic
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>>747531903
I'm curious as to why when a private server does the exact same shit, it's amazing, but when the actual company does it it's garbage. Is it because you hate private property or something?
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>>747532356
>its already closer to wotlk than classic
mission failed
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>>747532356
>we promise to keep it classic
>whoops its already not classic
damn that was fast
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>>747532313
>zero DEI representation
aiieee save me nu-bliz!
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>>747532073
you get a splash screen when starting the game and have to choose, so both choices are opt-in
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>>747531229
Tired or NA education?
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>noooo undead paladins don't make seeeense
huh...beings with a strong enough conviction to break free from the will of the lich king don't have autistic fervor to become paladins...hmmmm
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forever already betrays classic far, far more than tbc ever did
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>>747532313
Sex with goblin women
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>>747532107
Yes, it was never intended for consoles.

Blizzard has been exploring controller gameplay for many years but they're always fighting against the game engine which just wasn't built for that at all, in any capacity whatsoever. It would require so many workarounds and terrible fixes just to make it possible, and I shudder to think how easy i would be to break by accident, given the foundation.
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>>747532420
we all know its going to be on by default and turning it off will be hidden in a menu
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>>747532515
no, you don't actually know shit
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>>747532060
It releases on Thursday though. They need us to fix their game before the "official" release in November.
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>>747532457
Nigger there's literally been mods making the game entirely playable on controller since 2014.
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>>747532313
I don't like that the blue elves can be black either. They just HAAAAAD to sneak that in
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>>747532424
Both. But that is pounds is it not? It's not the dollar sign.
$
That is the only money sign the world needs
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>>747532643
KEK
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>>747525304
They also killed Ascension and that made me sad
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>>747532313
I mean clearly it is, but that's still infinitely inferior to what they did IN THE FIRST PLACE WITH FUCKING BC REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>747532025
nta, but iirc they met in early 2020, she had an open relationship with her boyfriend at the time and slept with Xaryu, and they caught feelings and started their own open relationship and ended up being known in the Tucson swinger community. They both sleep with other people on the side, so it's not like Xaryu is a cuck like his haters try to claim. There's more about it on kiwifarms if you wanna look into it.
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How the fuck did this thread get to be about streamers and shit

lol, WoW Forever is such a nothing announcement that people don't even want to talk about it and talk about their imaginary friends on Twitch instead
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>>747532313
>races that are already in the game that people wanted
Yes?
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>>747525531
*Game not included
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What's the point?
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>>747532917
people on twitch don't like it either
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>>747532620
And those mods break easily (and Blizzard keeps breaking them intentionally)

They also don't have access to the engine in the same way Blizzard does

That is what I'm saying, Blizzard has looked at those mods and attempted to copy them and even they don't like the end result, because the game is such a broken piece of crap on the backend
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I did not care for WoW at any point in time
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Classicfags
Justify your hatred for TBC and WoTLK as a desecration of classic WoW's spirit while cheering on this BfA-era abortion as "the true successor of classic"
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>>747532942
it comes with the skyborne epic pack and warcraft 3 and the new expansion
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>>747532073
what's wrong with opt-out transmogs when 80% of classic players want transmogs (source: polls)
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>>747525095
WoW can't possibly still have an active playerbase outside the remaining holdouts that were playing it back in 2009.
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Is this a genAI scam? I cant even read the text in the email they sent, plus the background image looks phony.
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So are they going to give us Wotlk on anniverary servers or is that basically a fever dream?
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Why did they not just take all of the Turtle and Ascension features wholesale?
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I kinda felt tempted for a moment but I don't to fund gay legbeards, blizzard is pozzed, so eh
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>>747533030
flying mounts bad
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>>747533083
>classic players
there's literally no evidence those were classic players
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>>747533030
I don't like flying. Portals, summons and patch 1.5 flight points were already pushing the convenience too far.
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No playable Naga
No playable High Elves
No playable Ogres
It's another classic cvck retail tranny subversion...
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>>747525095
Anything to avoid making WoW 2 I guess.
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>>747533132
They don't want to admit that amateurs did a better job than them.
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>>747533083
we all know transmog is just in to sell store cosmetics anyway
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>>747533132
not enough nu-wow in it
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>>747533158
>>747533181
I give it 3 patches.
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I refuse to watch any announcement
is this another shitty expansion?
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>>747531492
There have already a couple Undead paladins throughout the game's history, including vanilla. Meanwhile they pulled blue elves out of their ass despite having pre-existing elf options that they could've chosen instead, and look less gay even by elf standards.
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>>747533193
If Blizzard wanted to be a tranny friendly company, they wouldnt be stealing breast milk from women and getting away with it.
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>>747533205
Who would even play WoW 2?
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>>747531764
>Stopped reading here.
you clearly should have kept reading brother because i expanded on my point past that
revamped hyjal, zephras isles, riverglades is not enough. adding things like timbermaw hold and cut content from classic is cool, but also not enough. even adding new original raids to classic is not enough.

i'm talking expansive world changes but in the classic sandbox. why not northrend? why not outland? fuck it, why not pandaria? why not physically expand kalimdor/eastern kingdoms and make areas bigger? remix the content that already exists in classic to make it actually geographically fresh so long time classic players can't just autopilot, and backport the content that people liked from later expansions while making it fit with the classic experience and design philosophy. then, expand on it going a completely different direction from retail. diverge the timelines.

everything about wow forever just reads to me like a complete lack of ambition. they're catering to an older audience of players they know they can infinitely milk money from instead of asking themselves 'how can we go bigger' which was the entire conceit of wow's conception and release in the first place.

what i'd hoped for from this was a wow reboot. instead we get a wow retirement home.
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>>747533224
Ascension was literally just them taking as many retail assets as they could and slapping them everywhere.
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>>747533205
why spend hundreds of millions of dollars on a sequel when they can just recycle assets and make more money that way
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>>747533292
Hundreds of thousands maybe millions, but you wont so thats gonna probably do absolutely nothing to their profit.
You showed them.
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>>747525095
>Oh yes, Blizzard-sama, let me pay you $60 and a monthly fee for access to a beta, mmmm your boots taste so gooood
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I wanna play a healer again but TBC healing was stressful as hell. Felt constantly overwhelmed by damage in heroics
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>>747533205
It's World of Warcraft: A Realm Reborn.
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WoW's death will be marked by a hundred variants, by 2050.
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>>747533269
It's classic+ aka Classic WoW that will never go past level 60 and will expand by adding content for all level ranges
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>>747533313
the addition of literal player homes to WoW makes the "retirement home" thing kind of work well, honestly, lol

But yes, this is the forever game for a certain audience and Blizzard will be able to drain their wallets until they die
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i wanted to be a two headed ogre mage but I will take an expanded azeroth I guess.
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>>747533423
dont worry, classic is tuned for 45 year olds and gamergirls. healer is the easiest role to play by far.
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>>747529043
you control le buttons you le push
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>>747533462
>they turned wow classic into ESO
grim
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>>747525095
If they're charging $30 dollars for a reskinned race before it even comes out you already know this game is going to be full of microtransactions.
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>Tauren are getting plainsrunning back
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>>747533474
>I WANNA PLAY AS A 2 HEADED OGRE DUHHHHHHHHHHHH
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I'm glad they didn't call it Classic+.
We can now say we want Classic+ not WoW: Forever.
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>>747533492
get cancer
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>
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>>747533574
just don't buy them then
and turn off transmogs so you can't see what other people buy
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>call it WoW: Forever
>will actually be dead in a year
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>>747533580
I look like this, do this and say this.
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>>747533594
>aijeet is the primary demographic for this
kek
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>>747533580
>I WANNA BE ANOTHER COLOR OF A GAY ELLLLLF
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>>747533580
obese retards deserve representation too!
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>>747533292
trannies right before they kill themselves
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>>747533575
>an ability so clunky that even 2004 designers scrapped it
I don't see why people like this racial so much. Do you just want to get rewarded for spamming a-d-a-d all the time?
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>>747533594
Now gen an accurate horde version
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>>747528963
Join a Discord and blow smoke up the server trannie's ass
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>>747533645
AIjeets are the primary demographic for World of Warcraft in general. All three WoW threads on /vg/ are stuffed with AI garbage.
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>nerf horde racials into the ground
>introduce elves for horde for $30
Once again, the horde will be 99% elves.
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>>747533734
Grimmy.
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>"we are going home bros"
>He said for the fifth time, almost like a hollow mantra
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>>747533645
Its gonna be full of bots and scammer screwing each other in saarwind
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>>747533619
They're adding transmog into this as well? Do the retards at blizzard even understand what classic + is? It's just more classic, how can they fuck it up this badly? Why do they keep trying to make retail 2?
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>>747533509
more like GW2, they steal all the lame and gay shit from it and never anything cool
doesn't help GW2 is also fucking garbage now
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>>747533313
>you clearly should have kept reading brother because i expanded on my point past that
Stopped reading here
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>>747533703
It's as simple as "Funny cow man runs fast". That's all the appeal that it needs.
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>>747533761
>They're adding transmog into this as well?
yes
and achievements
and wod character models
and a battlepass
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>>747533761
>Why do they keep trying to make retail 2?
because nobody still working there worked on vanilla and they don't actually know what made it good or how to make anything other than more retail-style slop
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>>747533761
half of the playerbase wants transmogs in classic, half of the playerbase doesn't
so they added them but also let you toggle them off and not see other players'
i don't know how this solution doesn't make both camps perfectly happy
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>>747533826
it really is just retail minus
I'm convinced they're doing this out of spite
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>>747533703
It's probably just the Running Wild racial from Cata that behaves exactly like a mount, if it's how the old Plainsrunning ability worked it would be ridiculously overpowered. I could see it being a slight movement speed bonus for walking in a straight line.
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>>747533313
>not enough
They look like they have 4 major content patches for the next year brewing based on their roadmap.
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>um if you dont like ugly ass disney wow models just LE TOGGLE THEM OFF
>erm if you don't like transmogs just LE TOGGLE THEM OFF
but adding flying is what killed classic wow. what? YOU CAN'T FUCKING TELL ME TO JUST NOT FHGGJKG FUCKING USE FLYING FUCK YOU FUCK YOU GIMPYTHEACE YOU DISINGENUOUS CUNT
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is the night elf racial the free vanish or still the dogshit noncombat one
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>>747533761
MMOs and video games in general before WoW had a "transmog" (read: vanity armor) system.
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>>747533862
I like being angry at things. So does most of /v/
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>>747533975
both. out of combat it's 10 second cd and in combat 2 minute cd.
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>>747525095
>wow
>current year
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>>747533858
Vanilla isnt good so theres nothing that "made it good" in the first place
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>>747533940
He's right though.
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>>747533862
>half of the playerbase wants transmogs in classic, half of the playerbase doesn't
fuck the half that does
transmog is not classic
simple as
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>>747533940
its baffling that you think this is a coherent argument
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>>747533594
My heaven
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>Turtle and Ascension died for THIS
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>>747533940
you'll be happy to hear they explicitly said they won't be adding flying mounts!
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>>747534078
oh no that sucks maybe those tranny devs will have to get real jobs now
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>You have the option of turning all the HD shit and new interface options and transmog off

I can see this being a good version if they give it attention and listen to the community.
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>>747533884
Allegedly it's the beta plainsrunning except with a 2.5min ramp-up (instead of 10s) and 30% speed cap (instead of 60%/100%) and available at lv1.
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>>747534020
they have the best racial in the entire game if that is the case
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I miss turtle, so far it seems like Blizz only begrudgingly did a few of the things the players want in order to turn classic into another version of retail
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>>747534036
>>747534040
>look achievements, disney models and transmog don't affect the game if i just close my eyes, ok? they just don't because i say so
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>>747533940
Bro got spaces between his teef
I know getting food out of there is a work out
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>>747525095
>Retail with a thin classic veneer
Yeah, no thanks
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>>747534180
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>>747534020
Incredibly OP if true.
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>>747534219
at least TBC and WoTLK were somewhat organic evolutions of classic wow
this shit is literally just dropping BfA or Shadowlands right on classic's ass.
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>>747533940
Wasn't this the retard who crashed out over ff14 because it had playboy bunnies?
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>>747534195
>things you can turn off
god you're a retard
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>>747525304
Lmao kill yourself you fucking poor.
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>>747533464
it being a retirement home was the first thing i thought when i saw the title "wow forever"
like cool you guys aren't even being subtle that you are making this so you can dripfeed content while milking your older customers dry instead of trying to do something actually ambitious
then everything to do with the blue elves just reaffirms this belief LOL

guarantee you before 2028 they'll add a race for furries that's faction-agnostic
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>>747534195
you can keep your eyes open, and just toggle them off
also what the fuck is wrong with achievements, i'm still not getting it
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>>747534195
achievements sure, the other stuff no.
and none of those things are even 1% of the same impact that flying mounts have on the game
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>>747534284
If everyone is going to turn them off why waste time implementing them in the first place, seems like a lot of wasted effort to me
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These threads are filled with scorned ex-fans who haven't touched warcraft since 2015 and just want to come here to kvetch because it didn't add the feature they wanted.
(They weren't gonna play anyways)
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>>747525095
WoW trannies are prisoners of nostalgia
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>>747534235
Sounds like the in-combat version works like fade, instead of the WotLK version which was like vanish? It's okay I guess, remains to be seen how big the threat drop is.
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>>747534284
>>747534310
>it doesn't exist if i don't see it
>nothing can have an effect if i don't see it
brainlet alert brainlet alert
no wonder you're retail players. your brains hardly function at all
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>>747534195
Ascension also had achievements, toggleable transmog and toggleable HD models, but it was based because... it just was OK!?!?!?!?
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i will continue to play the single player MMO
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>>747534235
Yeah even with a 2 min cooldown having a free combat reset is completely busted. It is exploited in retail in MDI so I can already see it being busted in classic wow
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Does this basically kill any chance of a new progression server?

I'm excited for Forever, but I've always wanted to follow the plot of the game through the expansions as released.
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>>747534372
Everyone who actually cares about it is busy playing the game.
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>>747534372
>ex-fans who haven't touched warcraft since 2015
Isn't that literally the target audience of classic? If they don't like it that seems like a problem
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Feels like a good time to be unemployed, bros
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>>747534235
what the fuck they have the crazy crit buff and vanish? if you aren't playing NE whenever you can you're crazy
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>>747525095
there seems to be a pattern with western companies
>convince livestock that the game is good
>milk them for all they're worth
>use the money to keep convincing that the game is good instead of improving the game
>milk them for all they're worth
>forever
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>>747534428
oh nvm its just a fade, it won't be busted then
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I only care about ERP. Inclusion of Surnames makes me think they're going to have RP Servers again. Neutral Elves means I can ERP with Tauren and Orcs. Transmog means I can spend all my time collecting slutmogs.

Forever was basically made in a lab for gooners like me. Best $60 ever.
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I know no one gives a fuck about idea guy stuff (even i'm irritated when i read it) but in the lead up to this i was thinking what i'd do because there was a few threads and here's my pitch;
>Alternate history Vanilla (lore destroying edition)
>Orcs win after leaving the portal
>Stormwind destroyed, Orgrimmar is in Blasted Lands (built around the dark portal), Strath is human capital
>Horde occupies South of Eastern Kingdoms, Humans in the North
>Horde is Orcs, ZG Trolls and Goblins
>Alliance is Humans, Dwarves, Blood Elves
>Kalimdor is some untamed continent with no player races, lowest level area is like 35
>Lore is to end this stalemate with horde / alliance we must find some power on Kalimdor the untamed continent, so everyone runs over there
Hire me Blizz, i'm really cool i swear
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>>747525793
I think the only midnight release I ever did. At the local Future Shop. The artbook is actually really neat.
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>>747534436
Probably not. They're doing all four MMO business models now: progressive legacy servers, expansions, OSRS "legacy plus" and infinite maintenance mode.
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WoW fags deserve what they get.
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>>747534515
this is a more detailed version of what i was pitching earlier in this thread but classic fans just want to play classic over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again i guess
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Did they do anything to convince us that this time classic + will work instead of the last time they tried it with season of discovery and it failed?
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>>747533940
>>747534195
>>747534395
>>747534593
Bro ran to his meme generator
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>>747528765
>Everything else is broken
>Troll is still shit
That's it, I'm not playing Forever.
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>>747534372
Suck my penis femboy
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>>747534628
Yeah, by making it nothing like SoD. Classic+ is more like a mixture of Shadowlands and Cataclysm.
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>>747534628
>Did they do anything to convince us that this time classic + will work
>literally fast-tracked the enshittification that took retail 15+ years to experience
What do you think?
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These unoriginal fucks couldn't even bother to give us WoW 2? Forever riding that classic nostalgia train knows no end. I am out.
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What are the blue elf racials
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>>747525095
>included with WoW sub
So they are just trying to bring back people who left over the years and keep their current base from cancelling. Thought they would be trying to hit a new market but the models don't look interesting or impressive so I don't see zoomers playing this. Have to assume WoW2 is in development because this is pretty meh.
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>yes everyone has a dildo sticking out of their ass
>buuuut you can just toggle it off!
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>>747534593
Half Life 1 has an option for using the original models or the HD models, how is this any different? They're basically admitting that people prefer the original models and acquiescing to them.
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>transmog shit means absolutely fucked auction house prices from overinflated rare drop gimmick greens
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>>747534702
So did Blizzard.
The newest one is called World of Warcraft: Forever.
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>>747534778
Blizzard is intensely metrics- and engagement-driven, yes. Ultimately this is ALL about juicing the WoW sub numbers. Always has been about that.

They were infected with Activision brain disease shortly after getting acquired.
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>>747534794
Nah bro it's all good you can just turn it off and ignore it
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>>747534794
>Using the AH
Noob faggot
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>>747534794
just... toggle
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>>747534784
Just like ignore it if you don't like it.
(The retail player mantra)
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I absolutely hate the Blue Elves.
They were the only thing I saw today that I did not like, everything else was great.
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I bought midnight because I got the itch again and I regret it immensely
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>>747534794
Just le toggle it off chud. You control all of the buttons you push.
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>>747534794
That already happens without transmog. Teebu's is going for around 8.8k on anniversary right now
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>>747534706
Troll warlock is retardedly good.
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i toggled my gender
problem chuds?
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>>747534794
time to craft those warbear woolies, anon
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It's been a bad day for classic+ hopers.
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>>747534515

....this actually does sound more interesting than the Forever pitch. Not necessarily better (because it will still devolve into being terrible in the end) but definitely more interesting as a starting point.

But this would require significantly more development resources, because Forever is just a light remix of existing content. Your proposal is a huge overhaul of a lot of stuff and basically rebuilding the entire game world.
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>>747534794
>thing that otherwise would be useless and no one would ever buy sells for more gold cause it subjectively looks good to some people
what's the problem? you're not the one buying it
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>>747534794
bro just toggle off blizzard not trying to make shit look like it doesnt clash... toggle. IT. OFF!
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>>747535031
>checks your cheevos
OH NO NO NO NO
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WE'RE REMAKING CLASSIC AND ITS LORE

HERE'S SOME FUCKING BLUE COLORED ELVES
IT'S IN THE LORE
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>>747534794
>Tiktokcat poster
That happened in WoW before they added transmog, retard.
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I toggled off my interest in Classic+
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>>747534948
And they have the audacity to charge $30 dollars for it, sad thing is people will pay that for some reason
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>>747525435
Wow second post best post
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I'm toggling half way
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>>747530874
People already played classic, classic era, hardcore, SoD. It has been milked to death. Players wanted new content and some private servers did do classic + reasonably well.
Now, Blizzard is completely incapable of actually producing good new content especially to the degree necessary for classic + and by the standards set by the servers they shut down.
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Whats the progressing classsic at right now?
Is it still at BC?
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>>747534948
Yeah I don't get why they can't just use races were already know. Just give the baby alliance niggas their pretty elves and give the real horde niggas a cool monster race. That is how WoW should always be
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>>747535217
Anniversary is at BC and 2019 classic is at MoP
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I'M TOOGGLING
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>>747535217
ye. BT patch
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I was hoping they would go through literally every dungeon and change them all like Season of Discovery.

What Forever is 95% solved game now instead of a 100% solved game. Should have redone all the dungeons.
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>>747534794
Genuinely why is this a problem? You wouldn't buy that green otherwise. Do you think it's 2004, and you'll put a green on the AH, and make a tidy 60s off it?
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>Officer, I'm toggling you off during this traffic stop.
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>>747535262
That's the thing. We have plenty of options for races they could have made. Pleeeeeenty. There was 0 reason to make this OG content donut steel shit.
They look fucking horrendous.
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The only people who will play this are retailfags who want something to do between now and the next retail patch.
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instead of saying something negative you can just toggle your attitude
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They could not have fucked this up harder than even my worst thoughts and they went and did it. This is going to be worse than SOD. I don't even know what to say I knew this was going to be bad but holy shit and the worst part is people are eating this shit up. Look at the streamer faggots fake hyping. This is genuinely sickening to watch.
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Someone's really having a melty over this toggle shit.
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>>747535365
>There was 0 reason to make this OG content donut steel shit.
There was.
Some foid working at Blizzard wanted to do brightly colored elves with equally brightly colored hair.
Again.
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>>747525095
>Literally all you have to do is start a fresh Classic server and start adding in new content after Naxx, with maybe fix some exploits and tweak some old balance issues to scramble the calcified meta.

>Blue sky elves that are literally Blood Elf reskins
>Undead Paladins (along with a host of other retarded race/class combos)
>Transmog
>"Optional" (for now) graphics update
>Quest markers
nuBlizz are absolute masters at snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory. They had the hole lined up for them and they putted it into fucking space.
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>>747535429
>They could not have fucked this up harder than even my worst thoughts and they went and did it.
How and why? You literally said nothing in this post.
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>>747535432
Just toggle off their posts. You control the buttons in your 4chan.
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>>747535429
>but holy shit and the worst part is people are eating this shit up. Look at the streamer faggots fake hyping.
Half of them are paid Blizzard shillbots.
The rest are classic+fags trying to cope and eat the shit with a forced smile on their face because they don't wanna look silly after hyping the impending confirmed classic+ up.
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>>747535374
retail killed itself with vibe coded patches and a noncredible antagonist
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>>747535209
>Now, Blizzard is completely incapable of actually producing good new content

I'd argue this has been going on for quite a bit longer, but nevertheless, this problem will only continue to get worse and it will be harder and harder for Blizzard to distract the audience from their incompetence as time goes on
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>>747535365
>There was 0 reason to make this OG content donut steel shit.
Wrong. It's to send the message that this isn't the main version of WoW. I suspect future races will be more glup shitto stuff, gilgoblins or those koi fish guys from MoP maybe?
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>>747535436
Why would that be approved after void elves flopped, after shadowlands flopped, after vulpera flopped, after draggots flopped, etc?
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>>747535432
Toggle off now. Thank you.
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>>747535217
Black Shartple
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>>747535436
Yep this is pretty much it, plus they have little quirky birdforms and critters and stuff. This has white woman influence all over it.
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>>747535534
LET. HER. PUT. IN. HER. FIFTEENTH ITERATION. OF APOSEMATIC OCDONUTSTEEL ELVES.
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>>747534706
Are you kidding? Depending on how long the Rapid Regen cooldown is, Troll Warlocks will be almost unkillable. If it's lower than 5 minutes, it's busted OP.
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How do I unlock the my little pony mount?
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>>747535610
this is AI
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>>747535432
Now you've done it
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>>747535610
suck a tranny penis and post an image or vid of it to blizz's twitter
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>>747535464
>Undead Paladins are retar-
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>>747535610
This is 4chan culture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC_Y4zOUdcI
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>>747535209
They don't need to do anything good because WoW is being kept alive by streamers and their cattle audience. Without those retards the game would be dead by now or maybe actually improved.
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>>747525095
No thanks, still playing Azerothcore locally.
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>>747535669
geeeg
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I wanted to play as a fucking QUILBOAR not some gay blue commifornia elf.
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>>747535610
That has to be fake
>>747535692
Don't you jeets ever get tired of running damage control for pennies?
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>>747535690
Speaking from experience I see
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do they expect people to no life 2 wow? lmao
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>>747535610
Its $70 on the cash shop, noob
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>>747535692
undead paladins are supposed to be death knights
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>Adds new race
>It's another elf species
WHY
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>>747535610
Almost got me before I zoomed in a little
>>747535738
Quilboar never had a chance even if they weren't adding these garbage blue elves
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>>747535751
yes
forever
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>>747535751
no, they expect you to buy boosts
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>>747535751
if youre excited for this slop after seeing this blizzard can do nothing wrong to you
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>>747535751
That's the casual content bro. It gives dad gamers something to progress with even though they can't arrange raid times because of having too many wives to fuck.
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>>747535779
WoW is generic fantasy, having loads of elves is a generic fantasy staple and requirement.
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>classic+ is a disapointment as was predicted.
Fuck I just wanted WoD classic so I could smash people in the face with a shield as gladiator. Instead we get SoD revamp or yet another vanilla wow regurgitation.
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>>747535779
belf, nelf and human are the most popular races for a reason anon, people like good looking humanoids
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>>747535751
You don't understand Blizzdrones, dude. When a Blizzdrone runs out of content, they don't ask: "what game should I play?" They ask: "What Blizzard game should I play?"
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>they added the modern UI as well
jesus fucking hell it really is retail lite
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I don't want to play WITH people who like things I don't like
Knowing that they see transmogs and I don't... that makes me mad. Get out of my game.
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>>747535779
Uhhhhhhhhh something something too little high elves after Arthas but this new inbred island blue elves are fine
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>>747535738
HOLY B A S E D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3Zfn8eWRK4
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Private servers can make ogre work but blizzard can't....hmmmm
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>>747535751
>battlepass slop

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>747535610
they confirmed you cant toggle off this mount
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>>747535856
Gladiator existed in SoD and it was fun as fuck because you could use any stance's abilities in it, you had so many buttons to press.
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>>747535779
Every time Blizzard adds a non-elf race no one plays it. I genuinely can't fucking blame them, You have to remember: WoW actually DOES have a sizable amount of 36 year old white women who play it, and this is what they want.
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>>747535751
Anon, if you were literate, you would find that the image you posted pertains to casual content, not "no-lifer" content
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Trailer was fine until blue elves showed up and ruined it. I honestly wouldn't have even cared if it was High Elves and Blood Elves sharing the same starting zone, since at least it would make sense. This feels like a rejected retail idea being dropped in.
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>>747535779
because thats what people want
only obese faggot retards want shit like ogres
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>>747535886
Toggling this response off.
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>>747535738
>>747535891
Victory! For Agamaggan!
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>>747535964
I'm obese and I wanted something a bit more adventurous than elves or ogres: they should've added playable elementals.
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>>747535954
getting to lvl 60 on classic is most certainly no life
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>>747535751
They better not fomo reset this every month
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>BLUE ELVES NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
>i am gonna have nightmares about BKLUE EEEELLLVVEESSSSSSSS@!!!!!!
>today is not a good day becAUSE OIF BLUE EEELLLLLVVVEEESSSSSSS!!!!
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>>747535964
People who want ogres are genuine fucking virtue signalers. "Yes, I will invest hundreds of hours into a literal FAT FUCKING RETARD, because I'm not like those other girls who plays for looks~."
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>>747525095
>paying sub to a a tranny game
Ur brown World of Wumao.
The money to buy a better pc or house was busted plying this garbage game on uour fag toaster 5000 pc.
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>>747535692
He was an explicitly marked anomaly you tard.
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>be me
>november 2026
>playing WoW Forever with fren
>winter, freezing outside, but cozy @home
>have mild a cold
>hanging out in disocord
>"where do we go now?"
>"to XXX, fren"
>"Wow, I never played this zone, cool"
>questing together, I'm his heal, hes my tank.
>talk about the usual shit
Man.. I can't wait bros.
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>>747536035
>2 hours a day for 2 months only doing quests, no grinding
>no life
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>>747536035
Not really. You just do quests, kill shit, repeat. You can take your time and it doesn't require going and doing difficult group content. Getting to 75 on FFXI is no life, 60 on WoW is easy.
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i wouldn't have minded the new elves if they were hot enough that i'd want to fuck them.
but they couldn't even manage that. to a coombrain like me. embarrassing.
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>>747535964
>>747536086
you are a gay faglord that absolutely needs to play a pretty elf with makeup

ADMIT IT NOW GAYFAGGOTSLAVE
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>>747536130
i play human male actually
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>>747535610
>How do I unlock
unlock?
it's free.
it's not about the challenge; it's about the message being sent, to the highest numbers possible.
>(that's right... now, swallow.)
r.i.p. p.s. - o7
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>>747535913
i played it for a bit and it was ass. All you did was spame devastate. It had no scaling past the level 50 cap because they never made shield slam scale with ap and all the block value gear was loaded with defensive stats. Utter meme spec trash. WoD glad at least was comeptitve in highmaul and then once it got the mastery buff in hellfire. sod glad was just a joke.
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yikes can we toggle the negativity in here
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>NOT THE BLUE EEEELLLLLVVVESSSS
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
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>>747536118
as a dad gamer this is no life
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>>747535771
Scourge style Death Knights also aren't undead in the sense that they died and were risen. Maybe the player forsaken ud are like this too.
>>747536108
So are the player characters. Or do you think everyone gets revived by spirit healers?
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>>747536130
Nigger you wanna play as a fat man who has an animation that jiggles his belly. You're a bara queer.
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classic stuff is fun when its backed up by hype and popularity so ill be playin but that shit will get neckbeard farmed by min maxing the first month and then it will get gay and boring
probably make undead paladin like the 50 million others or a warrior finally
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>>747536196
I am a fucking chad that will play a monster character because guess what twink. I AM THE FUCKING MONSTER.
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>>747536179
A true dad gamer will do long gamer seshes on the weekend.
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>>747536120
You do have to sit through a lot of boring cinematics and story cutscenes in FFXIV, that is true...
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I hope there are cool /v/trads on Evropean servers, right wingers, gays or trannies with humor and time to play. But seems like there are only murricans ITT
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So.. it's called forever because you're stuck at 60 in Azeroth, so how exactly are they going to keep player interest up? Release one new raid every 4-6 months with new level 60 gear that is 2% better? I'm thinking in like 2 years from now, there's no way people will continue playing just because there's a new raid coming out with negligible gear upgrades and new "content" (a raid and a dungeon, maybe a zone from time to time), right? I mean it works for OSRS because you always have something to do because leveling and shit literally takes forever, but this is still WoW
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>>747535853
im getting old
i can't tell if this is bait or ignorance
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>>747535873
One of the best and most important posts in this thread.
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>>747536302
No you stupid nigga, FFXI, ELEVEN, the first MMO in the Final Fantasy franchise.
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>>747536287
I bet you play Roadhog in Overwatch, thinking you're a badass. You are a homo magnet.
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>>747536309
>exactly are they going to keep player interest up?
By not inducing FOMO, zoomer. Every new raid and dungeon and gear is carefully planned. You don't have to level from 60 to 70 to enter the new raid, you will likely do a pre quest and be done with it.
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>>747536287
That's not a flex but ok
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So are they winding down on retail and will switch focus to this Forever shit?
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>>747536115
This isn't Outward.
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>>747536350
First game in the franchise was called Warcraft: Orcs & Humans, you legally can't get more generic than that because Dungeons and Dragons is already copyrighted.
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Why are blue elves any more ridiculous than purple elves
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>>747536394
>>747536419
Kneel twink
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>>747536428
no, their blizzcon presentation also had a retail trailer full of evil woman feet and everyone loved it
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>You can't have wanted ogres because.....THEY'RE UGLY!!!!
Yeah. That's the point. og Horde races are ugly weirdos. That's why people played Horde.
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>>747536467
They both are bad and I didn't want either of them
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Why are there only "chads" playing WoW? I hope there are at least some twinks
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>>747536496
>using gay slang for underage boys
Gay and pedo confirmed.
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>>747536496
The monster bear men, are the ones who serve the twinks they fuck, retard.
Or else, they get no sex.
Because women dont like fat mishapen hairy bear men bodies
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I really don't understand the point of this game. Is it a rerelease of classic? Is it getting a different story, essentially making two timelines in the series?
Is it going to have a sub?
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>>747536502
reading some of these posts you'd think literally nobody played horde until blood elves were added
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>>747525724
>tranny bright blue and purple colors
I remember when those colors were associated with hot naked Slaanesh demon chicks and cool. Now they're just associated with ugly clothed Nurgle horror "chicks" and insults against humanity.
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>>747536183
Players were no name adventurers, and spirit healers or ressing from death by them, graveyard running etc was never acknowledged or mentioned, never never ever. Until idk some goy expansion somewhwere
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>>747536614
>Is it getting a different story, essentially making two timelines in the series?
It's this. They're doing what Yoshi P did and doing A Realm Reborn.
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>>747536502
And OG horde had a racial imbalance so bad that blood elves were added as a panic button. People don't wanna play ugly races. They don't. Ogres would be 0.5% of the population, and they would all have Grindr installed.
Literally the one guy wanting it is already trying to ERP. >>747536496
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>>747536589
The only groups left playing WoW are millennials with substance abuse problems and trooned out zoomers
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>>747536614
>Is it going to have a sub?
It's going to be under the regular WoW sub, same as all of the other Classics
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>>747536590
>>747536594
submit to your ogre king
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>>747536686
if you give me shelter and money and food
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are hunter deadzones still there?
when did they add surnames?
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>>747536657
Regular adventurers who.... defeated C'thun, defeated Kel'thuzad, defeated Ragnaros, defeated the entire Dark Iron race, defeated the entire Old Horde, and so on...
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>>747536678
Fuck, I'm the youngest generation of millennials and I'm having a beer right now, I feel called out.
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>>747536773
PLAINSRUNNING
HOW FAST CAN A COW RUN?
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>>747536773
Sodapopping is cool but i feel like he needs a new style for himself irl

Maybe spikey short hair?
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>>747536883
kill yourself eceleb faggot
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Ogre men and ogre women only differ by the number of heads they have. The women are two headed so they always have someone to bitch at.
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>>747536773
>are hunter deadzones still there?
its counterplay and actually good
>when did they add surnames?
yeah i dont know about that, it sucks
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>>747536883
>>747536819
i have to watch him because i dont know who else covers this shit
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If Silithus isn't expanded upon I will be furious.
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>>747534515
That is just Pandarea's story. I like it.
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>>747536908
Kill yourself faggot
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>>747536926
>>its counterplay and actually good
i dont understand waht you mean. i mean is there a minimum distance where you can start shooting your bow still or did they retail that ?
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>>747537001
>>747536926
nevermind he just covered it in this vod im watching.
freezing trap still in combat. hunters still use mana. energy regen is retail regen. and theres still deadzones
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>>747535897
Just toggle it off.
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>>747537078
Being able to use traps in combat would be a new addition if you saw it in Forever.
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>>747537249
yeah thats what i meant. i only played hunter in classic and classic tbc but i am probably not gonna do that all over again since i assume they will make shit a lot better for every class to solo level
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lmao another classic but is not classic? you can't be serious
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>>747536071
>>747536174
Just toggle them off.
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>>747535964

Even elffags didn't want sky elves, they wanted high elves or blood elves.
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>>747537385
good news you can make them look exactly like blood elves
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>>747534172
Oh so it’s worthless and spitefully added like any fun feature with blizzsoft.
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>>747537476
retard
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>>747536459
warcraft 1 is also not really emblematic of world of warcraft
if you look at it in broad strokes then yeah it's generic fantasy
then you look closer at pretty much any one of the factions and that changes
can't really think of too many other settings where orcs are alien native americans who got psyopped by orc judas into worshipping satan before invading another planet, getting btfo into getting stranded, un-retarding themselves, and trying to navigate culture divide between warlike new gen and spiritual old gen
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>>747536417
But that's another reason to question how they will keep the interest going If you wait let's say 5 months for the new raid, you're running around farming some mats, doing raids, the usual inbetween stuff.. then the raid comes out, you do a pre quest to enter the raid, and then you do the raid, because it's classic you will most likely clear it in the first reset, then what?
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>>747537506
you're an idiot
30% passive movespeed is great, but getting mileage out of it requires you to play like an ADHD sperg
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>>747537378
I was making fun of you making fun of the elves
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>>747537660
Wait IM retarded god damn it
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>>747537660
Just toggle off the replies that trigger you.
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>>747537647
That's actually fairly common in 90s fantasy properties. Did you know that Goblins in The Elder Scrolls are aliens from another world that entered Nirn through a crack in the sky?
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Goblin_Gate
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>>747537647
>can't really think of too many other settings where orcs are alien native americans who got psyopped by orc judas into worshipping satan before invading another planet, getting btfo into getting stranded, un-retarding themselves, and trying to navigate culture divide between warlike new gen and spiritual old gen
I can think of at least two, if it doesn't have to be specifically Orcs.
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>>747537652
Yeah, eventually that will happen because that's just how WoW is designed to be. OSRS works because it takes fucking forever to do anything and even then the vast majority never reaches max skills or does every quest to unlock everything, etc etc. This is why Blizzard introduced dailies and shit to begin with, time sinks to keep the interest going inbetween patches, and there's no way they're introduces dailies to classic, so who the hell knows how Blizzard will solve this eventual problem
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>>747536671
>People don't wanna play ugly races.
i do, they're cool. even as a kid i thought trolls and orcs were fucking sick.
some people just wanna be the bad guy and kick over the pretty boys sandcastles

i think you could do a 'pretty' horde race without them being another variant of elf
not super attuned with classic lore, but is there any reason why the highborne have to be an alliance faction?
if the ideological schism between night elves and highborne was so bad that they had to splinter off from each other, why not have the surviving splinter group of highborne in dire maul join up with the horde for revenge/retaking the site of the well of eternity and convert dire maul into a full-blown horde city and/or raid?
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>>747530293
they arent white
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>>747525304
>noone wants this
this was literally the most anticipated announcement of the event, that's why they saved it for last
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>>747529351
but if you're not using a sword then you get no extra crit
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>>747538418
props to them for trying. I'll give it a try but if I had to bet on the likelihood I find it enjoyable, I'd give it like 20%
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>>747538121
it being orcs is kind of part of the point i was trying to make. you look at the cover and go 'oh, orcs are bad guys.' then you actually play the game, and it's much more complicated than that. so if you're talking about another race in another game that is practically setup to play against type then yeah, sure. maybe 90's fantasy is more creative than i remember, but my memories of reading books when i was young were very humans are good every non-human race that isn't elves or dwarves are bad
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>>747536991
>the parasocial streamer cock gobbler is only capable of parroting others
Checks out.
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>>747538821
Kill yourself faggot x2
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>>747538809
You just didn't read much. The story of the Orcs is just a rebrand of the story of Magician by Raymond Feist (albeit with a whole bunch of other 80's fantasy thrown in on the sides. Thrall is essentially just Pug from Magician.
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>>747538529
Luckily swords are very common. And now you can be a human hunter and get extra stats just for wielding a sword as a stat stick.



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