What is with all the ff2 revisionism lately

>>747546147
>What is with all the ff2 revisionism lately
You mean the westoid revisionism? FF2 was received well in Japan and sold more than the original, fuck off.

>>747546183
Fuck off shill. It doesn't matter 50 years later how well it sold, it's buggy, it's got a boring story, and dragon quest 3 ate it's fucking lunch

>>747545952
peak shit
one of the worst games of all time holy fuck

I think 3 is the game I hear about the least, is that one not exciting or something? same with 12. I can't think of a singular sentiment I've heard about either of those games

I like it. I replay various versions of it every couple of years

>>747546304
It's the one that was least available in the west and overshadowed by V when it comes to its gimmick.

I have no idea why you haven't read anything about XII.

>>747546263
>and dragon quest 3 ate it's fucking lunch
you mean the 30 hour borefest that is tranny quest 3? LOL

>>747546304
>I think 3 is the game I hear about the least
it's great, but it's a pretty tough game and has a difficulty final dungeon so it filters most FF games who just wanna mash the A button to win every fight.

>game so bad and cursed even the programmer sabotaged it intentionally
at least we got some funny stories out of it

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>>747545952
No wrong answer. So bad its good like House of a Thousand corpses. No other game has had the balls to let you toad the final boss.

>>747546384
I'm not super interested in ff in general, just curious because I never really hear anything about 12. I hear a lot about 13 and people don't really like that game so I just thought it was o a little odd

>>747546458
>I got a better question of FF2 why does the Christian deities exist in a universe unrelated to the Earth we know?
Christianity isn't really mentioned in these games outside of nods to crosses and the concept of heaven and hell, I think Japan just finds christianity an interesting religion aesthetically and nothing more.

>>747546147
2 has been softened over and over with each re-release, culminating in the Pixel Remaster which is neutered to the point where you just coast through the game without a second thought. New players naturally go to the most recent version, so they're confused at the negative reputation built up by the previous versions.

>>747546263
>FF2 shill
There are no real people here anymore. Just bots and human parrots.

>>747546304
3 lacks identity and character. it's just FF1 with some new stuff stapled on.

>>747546561
>3 lacks identity and character.
It has an entire job system and notorious for having a final boss who just blasts your ass with a single 2k damage attack, saying it lacks an identity is pretty bold.

>>747546393
Japan adores Dragon Quest

>>747546304
3 didn't have an English release for a very long time, retard.

>>747546608
we get it, you got filtered by a game older than your parents.

>>747546304
I personally think 3 is the most underrated. I love it and rank it 5th best. Its very imagination friendly.
Every time a zoom zoom discovers 5, talks about how amazing it is well shiting on 3, I import another immigrant family so they will never own a house.

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>>747546627
DQ3 specifically is dogshit, 30 hours of the same mash A to win combat system, FF2 expects you to use your brain and has an ambitious stat levelling system that culminated in one of the best JRPG franchises ever made, SaGa.

>>747546718
Everything about >>747546183 applies to Dragon Quest 3

>>747545952
Played and liked I, II, IV, V & VII

III had retarded tedious parts that filtered me. I remember walking on the overworld and saw some weird tile, walked on it and got a Game Over and I stopped playing.

VI was a letdown unfairly because I wanted more class customization off the heels of V. I didn't get far before losing interest and quitting. If I find a GBA copy I'll give it an honest try but the elitist fanbase (mostly composed of people who didn't even play VI) soured my view of the game

VIII felt like shit after playing VII, I hated Squall and the school vibes. I actually fell asleep playing it while repeatedly drawing magic off some fodder and wondered why I was still playing.

I don't think I've ever used a status effect spell in an FF game

>>747546792
>walked on it and got a Game Over and I stopped playing.
Lol did you forget to get those shoes before you went to Goldor's palace?

>>747546514
I find this funny as I consider 12 the most mid and forgettable. You obviously are not a coomer though.

>>747546703
are all christians this retarded?

>>747546703
I want to meet you so badly out of curiosity. What part of Dixie are you from?
t. Leaf

>>747546304
3's world and how you engage with it is one of the best
it's a gamey-ass game, for better or for worse

>>747545952
I think the only bad aspect of the game is the dungeon design and how it's one annoyingly mean layout with trap doors that lead to a single empty room, and that's every dungeon for the entire game.
I like 2 more than I do 3 because 3's bosses suffer this type of problem and are a fucking pain in the ass to fight. Almost every boss in three is "I spam aoe spells and if I get to go twice in a row you just lose."

I've never sat down and played a real final fantasy game to completion, is the pixel remaster of 6 good to go? translation issues not a prob, I'm just gonna play it in japanese but that's my second question because I'm not that fluent

Is the plot hard to understand or follow? I've actually started it and am at the point of trying to get banan across the raft while fighting that strong ass river monster, is the plot going to stay pretty consistent and easy to follow or is there going to be some kind of ridiculous hard to follow series of events? as the game goes on?

I was also looking at ff9, maybe X to play. I know 8 is supposed to be confusing. 7 I've tried to play like 5x in the past a long time ago and never gotten through probably more than 4 hours worth each time so I want to give a new game a go instead

>>747546792
I have imported another Indian family. Keep it up anon, there are 1.6 b of them.

>>747546995
>immediately brings up translation
>reddit spacing

Okay /vr/ guy you can just go back to that board and make another "DURR WHICH TRANSLATION IS BEST" bait thread.

>>747546995
Play the original. The pixel remaster looks like shit in comparison.

>>747546147
I dunno, but it's wild. I've even seen black people fangasm over it.

>>747547091
I actually specifically mentioned a translation isn't relevant you donkey

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>>747545952
FF2 took a chance and it failed. I don't hold it against it but I won't pretend it isn't ass either.

Castle Pandemonium is one of the best tracks in the franchise though. It doesn't get the recognition it deserves.

>>747546385
>since Archangel Michael is recognized by Islam
The fuck? Since when?

>>747546995
>is there going to be some kind of ridiculous hard to follow series of events?
no
but there will be a sequence where you're on a timer and being in dialog boxes still counts down, so you might hate that part

>>747545952
The dungeons were the worst in the series those endless trap rooms are unforgivable. What a fucking downgrade from FF1.

>>747546514
The reality is that XII is the game that ultimately led to the current state of Final Fantasy, that game started development several months before FFX came out and barely made it out unfinished before the end of the console generation by getting a new director to cut shit until they could release it. FFXIII started development right after X-2 as a PS2 game then they realized XII wasn't even close to done and XIII got corpo'd into a huge bloated PS3 project conjoined to FFXIV. Because the game is slapped together at the last minute it has weird difficulty spikes and save point placement that drove off story focused players (it's also missing a lot of story) so there's a rerelease with a different character progression system which rather than adjusting that shit just makes your characters stronger so it doesn't matter.

>>747546543
FFIIPR is fucking awful, and it was even worse at release where enemies with physical attacks with paralyze instantly put you in a game over state if they ambushed you and killing undead with healing was a softlock. There's never been an official English release of FFII that actually has the intended game mechanics at all.

>>747546995
The plot is confusing if you are actually trying to follow it. Its a long game, with tons of characters, and story arcs. All very surface level though, and you'll have no issues grasping the important stuff.
Its ambitious, may be a little to much to bite off but the other ones though much smaller have much more complicated plots.
Your biggest problem is going to be your ADD. 6 is long.

>>747546304
3 also sucks but it's not as bad as 2.

>>747546718
Ambitious is code word for 'they tried something and it sucked floppy donkey dick' btw

>>747547254
Jesus is a prophet. Ton of overlap. My favourite is the Muslims believe Isreal sacred becuase Muhammad rode there on a unicorn one night.

>>747547232
He's got THE LOOK.

>>747545952
It was shit then, it's shit now.

>>747547270
the intended game mechanics being shit like toading everything to death and maxing out one character's evade stat lol

>>747547358
How about 5?

>>747546956
Personally my other complaint about FFII is it barely fucking has bosses, you get to the bottom of the dungeon, go trough all 8 trap rooms (the correct one is naturally second last just to troll you if you skip to the end) and OH FUCK IT'S A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT MONSTER FORMATION FROM THE REST OF THE DUNGEON HOLY SHIT

There was a point there where I think there was like 1 in 25 doors that led to literally anything in a few straight dungeons before I got tired of getting an encounter every 5 steps when I already had so much HP that no mob could possibly endanger me from having fought so many battles and getting so many free HP ups in the fuck ass version I was playing.

>>747546481
wasn't it the same key staff as SaGa which lets you chainsaw the final boss God

>>747546856
most of them are worse actually

>>747545952
The first version I played of this was the GBA Dawn of Souls bundle with FF1 and I honestly found it the more enjoyable game. This is nostalgia talking but it was a lot of fun, even if it had some weird design choices and annoying elements.
But I know that it was polished and the original version was awful. I just wonder if many people who claim two is the worst actually played that one.

>>747547509
It's okay but the towns/dungeons are pretty boring.

>>747547270
I swear I can feel it in X. IMO even though its still turn based it just felt off toend. Voice acting and no over world map was the beginning of the end.

>>747546147
People saw all the attention Zelda 2 was getting (which is actually a decent game) and thought they would be a special snowflake if they liked the red headed stepchild of 2D FF.

>>747545952
The best thing about FF2 is that it eventually led to Romancing Saga 2, which was better than FF 1-5.

>>747547562
Nice, Yea. I really need to try those games.

>>747547562
Neither programmer on SaGa 1 worked on FF2.

>>747547673
>which is actually a decent game
If I have to play a grindscroller, I'll play Faxanadu

>>747547662
All right, not great but you may own a house.

when amano dies I think final fantasy is going with it

>>747547831
>You'd think a character who conquers Hell and Heaven would look more masculine.
That's for Frioniel and crew. The good straights kill the evil trans.

>>747546304
3 is the best one imo, it just never came out outside of japan so it's obscure
but it's great

>>747547885
He hasn't even done the main design work on FF for fucking years now.

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>>747547232
I just played Fire Emblem Gaiden. They took some BIG swings. Didnt work out perfectly but I wish they had kept the creativity. Zelda, FE2, FF2, they all took chances, hot smacked, and never changed again. Curios if DQ2 did the same?
I also miss the futuristic 80s kino fantasy mix.

>>747548000
Trips of lies, but this remix was hype though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPkMWV5JJ24

>>747547497
Staffs, rods, robes, etc. serve no purpose in the PS1, GBA, and PSP versions because they removed the magic penalty from non-mage equipment.

Back row is meaningless in PR FFII because you can still be targeted so you just end up with less HP and you will have ridiculous HP and soft capped weapon ability levels 90% of the time because the encounter and growth rates are raised so high. Because back row doesn't work it's also harder to manipulate evade and instead you just need to simultaneously grind it up for everyone.

They should have been fixing stuff like fucked up offensive status magic but instead if anything they made it stronger while fucking up the things that worked.

>>747547935
WHAT PART OF DIXIE ARE YOU FROM?

>>747548008
its a spiritual thing

>>747547850
wat

>>747548010
>Curios if DQ2 did the same?
No, but they wanted to at first (character design showed the progress of time and fashion, the green prince was originally going to be a friendly monster fox guy with a rapier, the green prince was originally going to use Sacrifice/Megante to fucking kill himself in order to finish off the final boss and in the final scene his sister was going to go crazy and kill the blue prince MC after he got crowned king), but sadly they dialed it the fuck back. I guess the one big change was that the end game was the first real filter for DQ fans. Rondarkia/Rhone does NOT fuck around, no matter how leveled you are. Funny given how focused they were on making DQ1 accessible to anybody to pick up, play, and be able to grasp it.

>>747546304
I loved III, played it a special time in life so I'm biased but I still feel it's the one that got the pure epic adventure feel down best.

>>747548010
Bro Final Fantasy constantly reinvented itself.

>>747548057
>they removed the magic penalty from non-mage equipment.
Isn't that still in there even in pixel remaster?

>>747548349
DS?

>>747545952
TRVKE

>>747548434
FC (on an emulator for the PS1)

>>747548393
Not only bringing back magic interference but actually showing it in the menus rather than just having to guess how much it affects any given equipment item based on its type is basically the one thing PR does right. Well your mileage may vary on removing the extra encounters in trap rooms, it makes them even more pointless and boring but it was also super fucking annoying.

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>>747548527
> (on an emulator for the PS1)
DEEBLY GONCERNED
>>747548543
Oh, I thought it was just always in consistently. I didn't know it was taken away and then put back in for PR.

>>747548658
It only applies to weapons and shields. All other types of armor always had the penalty regardless of version.

>>747548658
It was a time where I remembered/realised "oh shit my PS1 is mod chipped" and felt like playing on the big TV, although I'd at least already played I and VI back then on the PC (as well as VII which I actually owned). Not sure if IV was before or after (though I ended up playing that on my PC and barely finished it before it committed sudoku), but I remember already not jiving with II back then.

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>>747548597
Oh man, I didn't know pic related was a reference to this. I thought it was just the gamedev making their own parody of FF2. They even messed up the title in the same way, lol.

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>>747546147
Zoomers have nothing. They have absolutely nothing. Fortnite, I guess? Roblox? Everything good happened before their time, and everything is some gay tranny propaganda now, so there is nothing left for them. As a result, they must comb through all of the games that were """overlooked""" by boomers so that they might find the game that was actually an unrecognized masterpiece. You can see this with the one guy who keep making Final Fantasy XIII threads trying to pretend that it's good and then just spamming it with images of Lightning for 6 hours before finally getting bored.

Usually when this happens, it's because some zoomer makes a 2 hour long video essay about it. I know that's why people started spamming about XIII. I just checked and I couldn't find any FFII video essays though, but I did find a few 10-20 min videos asking the question "was it actually bad?"

>>747546304
III is fine. I actually like it more than V. It's just a job game. Gets overshadowed by FFV because that has a small cult following due to a tranny fundraiser that involves it.

XII is also fine. It's probably the last "real" Final Fantasy game, but it plays like a more streamlined version of FFXI (the first MMO). People called it an offline MMO back in the day too. They're not exactly wrong about it. It's basically Star Wars, but Final Fantasy. There is even Han Solo and Chewbacca, except Chewbacca is a brown bunny girl.

>>747548873
Aw shit, one of the other five anons that played Nitro Express. That resume really only spread around on the JP side of things, so I'm not surprised that you never saw the original.

>>747548319
I want to play that game. SaGa series have plots like that?

>>747548751
Oh yeah, it's still fucking stupid. You'd think there'd be a damn romhack to put it back in Origins because otherwise I would play that version even if I'm not totally fond of the redesigned enemy sprites.

>>747548903
FF3 is not a "job" game. You're expected to do what the game tells you with little to no deviation.

>>747548995
The car driving up to the ramp kills me. Why did he do it? Not the car, I mean, but the whole resume?

>>747546147
New releases tone down the issues to the point where it's still a bit obtuse and annoying but nowhere near as bad as the original release. I like it more than FF3 and definitely like it more than the XIII trilogy and XV

>>747549045
...it's literally a job game, anon.

>>747549103
The only answer you'll get is in that resume, because I sure don't remember.
>SHUT UUUUUUUUUUP
>I DON'T KNOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>FINAL FANT
>ASY

>>747546147
it's really not that bad if you play a version that doesn't have stat atrophy

>>747546304
III does nothing that V doesn't do better so it's over shadowed and XII would have the worst battle system in the series if XV and XVI didn't exist but now kind of looks better than it used to with how awful the past 2 mainline games have been..

>>747546304
3 has good music and the reveal with the starting map is neat but that's about it. It's completely invalidated as a game by FFV and as a barebones adventure FFI has less bullshit to put up with. I would very easily rank it the worst among the first 10

>>747548903
XIII is a direct follow up to X-2 in terms of mechanics and production, so to me it's about as much real Final Fantasy as XII is on balance, they're just missing different things. XIII-2 is maybe moreso.

>>747549218
I felt like going from III to IV, IV was really trying to recreate the floating island moment with the underworld and the moon and even with two of them it just isn't as cool.

>>747549249
XIII is literally a hallway autobattler with a terrible story and a completely unlikable cast, and is the very first time that fans truly went "what the fuck is this shit?"

>>747547232
>Castle Pandemonium is one of the best tracks in the franchise though. It doesn't get the recognition it deserves.
Based pandemonium enjoyer. Easily the best final dungeon theme in the series

>>747547885
I'd be sad but it would be worth it for Final Fantasy to be put out of its misery

>>747548903
>Zoomers have nothing. They have absolutely nothing. Fortnite, I guess? Roblox? Everything good happened before their time, and everything is some gay tranny propaganda now, so there is nothing left for them.
Let's pretend gen 7 and late 6 isn't Zoomer's generation.
>But-but
Faggot you're referring to Gen Alpha

>>747549040
I'm fine with it being gone. It was a shitty system and they never put in enough effort to make it interesting.

>>747549347
It's been a zombie since X, looked mostly intact back then but only been decaying and rotting further since.

>>747549218
Another Indian family imported. Keep it up faggot.

>>747549031
Only the first is that degree of insane. The rest from SaGa 2 onward are a different type of insanity/coolness. chasing your dad across varying worlds and said dad is also not-Indiana Jones who is part of an organization trying to keep a group of "New Gods" from destroying the multi-verse by the power from the pieces of a woman, time traveling to stop a big ass jug from flooding the planet, recruiting a guy just to kill him and steal his cool sword, an empire that is actually the good guys, not-Zorro and Fat not-Zorro, henshin transformations, two very different families doing their own things but eventually joining forces to fight a fucking egg, body-hopping as a robot idol trying to access a forbidden song, participating in literal race wars, etc.

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>>747545952
1, 2 and 5 are good because you can play through the game with a party of your choosing, like 4 warriors for example, in FF 3 and 4 you can't and have to play the boring way the devs wanted you to so they're caca

>>747549308
I would say it was FF4 trying to be a bigger game more so than it trying to recapture the same feeling. All the SNES games had multiple world maps

>>747549132
Oh so what Job combo did you use to beat Garuda?

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>>747549316
Playing that game was surreal, it was so fucking bad. I wasn't expecting it to be a masterpiece but it's literally the worst JRPG I've ever played by a mile. I don't think I enjoyed a single second of it.

>>747549389
I will never refer to zoomers as "alpha"

That's some compelled speech control (((magic))) shit. You want me to refer to the TikTok generation of illegal immigrants as "alpha"? Fuck no.

>>747549308
4 was my biggest let down. The grave on the mountain was fantastic but otherwise very meh, well being too short, with the worst plot and writing in the series. Ill never understand why japs used to always rank it near the top in the 2010's.

>>747546147
It's the scourge of Dark Souls II

>>747549410
imagined a nomuraesque zombie shuffling around moaning, cup noodle spilling from its gaping eye socket

>>747549419
Fuck, you sold me. After fourtunes weave that will be next on the list. You sir, are the spirit of /v/.

Attack yourself, anon

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>>747549542
You lost
My victory was preordained, inevitable
Every single day is a day you live in defeat

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>>747549316
>is the very first time that fans truly went "what the fuck is this shit?"
IZJS would not exist if that was true.

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this but for Jack's game, at least for modern era, Stranger of Paradise is unironically the best modern FF and everyone should play it

>>747549489
Only one I never beat. I feel like a ff fraud. Really hope it gets a tolerable remaster.
>>747549598
Kek

>>747549489
I forced myself through the trilogy just to check it off the list and it honestly felt liberating to play the first three afterwards

>>747549635
>IZJS would not exist if that was true.
Right, and the reason the International version of FFX exists is because people hated FFX, right? Fucking moron.

>>747549597
>You sir, are the spirit of /v/.
holy fucking reddit

>>747549308
The moon in 4 is like the inverse of that, though. They always knew the moon was there, it's just a matter of "wait, there was actually a group of people living on here?" moment. as opposed to "we literally had no idea anything was outside of our island which we didn't even know was an island floating in the sky". Plus it's just the last (technically, but it gets interrupted by the giant attacking on earth) place you go in the game, so it has more of an FF1 "this is the final place to go" energy than FF3's "that was just the first part of the game" reveal. You explored everything on the planet, what else is left? Well time-travel in FF1 and the moon in FF4.

>>747549740
That's weird, I don't remember the international release of FFX completely changing key systems and adding a fucking fastforward toggle for gameplay.

>>747549610
This reminds me of how I used to win in (Dark) Soul Calibur 2

>>747549815
>lil gup doesn't remember the Expert Sphere Grid
I'll just accept your concession and move on.

>>747549671
I almost hate this game the most as it was a perfect near miss. Plot, setting, story, music, and especially the ending were all 10/10. I really enjoyed the boss fights.
The normal combat though... Just killed it for me. Had they just gone more roll slop and less single player mmo it would have been my dream game. As is I just put it on the easiest setting so I could rush straight to the end.

>>747549598
To me this is basically like steamrolling a Pokemon game with your starter, you don't have to play it that way and if you set that limitation the game improves drastically.

>>747549489
This reminded me of that returned gamestop box where it was written in marker that some guy gave it to his girlfriend and it was like "to my love and my world, xoxo". Shit never fails to kill me.

>>747549872
That's a slightly different layout, not a complete redo.
You'd have a point if they remixed the original license board. They scrapped it instead.

>>747549759
In the before time, prior to you low IQ constantly angry incel tourists we were one and the same. You may be a mobile poorfag but you dont need to write like one. Use some punctuation like a white male should.

>>747549943
It's not even that, it's actually just stupid because late game enemies do percentage damage so you just make it harder to heal. There's other dumb exploits in FFII that are actually worth doing but that is not, the only reason to even do it is to spam Cure on yourself.

and a grammar nazi to boot.
terminal case of reddit lol

>>747549943
I always force myself to use the first pokemon I catch and toss the OP and special ones. Playing Emerald with Caterpie was not fun.

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>>747549943
speaking of Pokemon, it was inspired by SaGa

>>747550094
>In the before time, prior to you low IQ constantly angry incel tourists we were one and the same.
Holy fucking Reddit, Jesus Christ, no the fuck we were not.
>t. 2006fag

>>747550234
You should kill yourself poorfag. Stop your parents embarrassment over their genetic deadend retard son, lol.

>>747550361
2010 reddit was hilarious, and nobody gave a fuck. You are larping if you think anyone had that opinion till gamergate.

>>747550352
Megami tensei came out earlier albeit

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>>747550352
When I read your post, I thought no way that's not possible, but your post is just misleading.

The fact that JRPGs (like SaGa) could run on the Gameboy was the inspiration needed to prove to Satoshi and GameFreak that a JRPG on the Gameboy was possible. SaGa was not the inspiration for actual Pokemon in any sense other than technical proof that JRPGs could run on a Gameboy.

test

>>747550554
>AI overview
Just fucking kill this board already.

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>>747546147
People will laugh at me now, but I like how you can turn off encounters in pixel remaster and do low level / encounter run.

>>747550554
Outside of limited skill slots that you have other skills replace, and different skills having varying skill charges while other RPGs having mana systems in place.

>>747550595
USER IS BANNED

>>747545952
>hurrr this dogshit game was actually really good filtered filtered filtered
Fuck off.

>>747550498
it had a lot of inspirations

>>747550598
I'm sorry that you are offended by your misleading claim being fact checked.

>>747550617
Vancian casting is from D&D, retard.

>>747550605
Holy shit Argilla, lock in you fucking jobber

>>747550640
Such as?

>>747550474
NTA but it's too obvious you're trolling. You need to be more subtle. The bait has to entice a little nibble you see

>>747546147
Seer challenge run where he glazes it and calls out everyone who calls it shit paired with each new release making it easier and easier to deal with its mechanics.

>>747550605
Only way you are going to get zoom zooms to play ff2, I think its smart. Im told 4x Exp with 0 encounters is beatable and 8 hours long. I want to try it out.

>>747546147
We stopped bullying the fuck out of sagafags and now they think their opinions matter.

5 is the best game and most aren’t ready to admit that.

>>747550703
2014? The fuck do you know.

>>747550748
it's aggressively okay at best to anyone who isn't a jobsissy

>>747550724
>implying sagafags were ever even acknowledged enough to get bullied
These niggas are the Eeyore of RPG fanbases.

>>747550648
It isn't vancian magic. You're talking about a different mechanic in how to do magic.

>>747550806
Nope.

>>747546304
I think it's the best of the NES titles but it is less fun on replay due to the hand holding it does. The railroading isn't as bad as the haters say but it is there.

>>747550887
What? Did we play the same game?

>>747550690
I love Digital Devil Saga. Is that a sin?
>>747550712
This was normal EXP run, so yes, 4xEXP is definitely possible.

>Espers have four spell slots
>You can never gain more innate spell slots
>If you gain a new spell it over writes another spell and you don't control when you learn that new spell
>Each spell has its own amount of charges you're able to use
It's different from one's like:
>You have many different spells but you can change them out from being active or inactive
>Their usages depend upon your level which can influence the amount of spells you can use per spell tier
They're mechanically different.

>>747549930
Team Ninja have been trying and failing to strike a balance between action game like Ninja Gaiden and RPG for over a decade and they still have yet to find it.

>>747550648
You are retarded for assuming every reply comes from the same person.

>>747551298
Well it'd be even weirder if you were offended that I fact checked someone else's misleading claim, so I hope you're the same guy and not someone new.

>>747551283
Nobody can. Squaresoft had FF Fortress commissioned which was a rollslop but decided not to pursue the project. That was a year before Demonsouls, would of made a billion.
The first 15% of FF16 when melee mattered was my dream game. Than you get your second esper and it falls off a cliff.

I knew AI shit eaters were fucking stupid but this is just embarrassing. I pity anyone that has to deal with these animals on a daily basis.

>>747551585
thats cute you think squenix was thiiiis close to making souls before souls when it was probably just another dogshit hack n slash that were numerous during the PS2 era

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>>747551669
>I knew AI shit eaters were fucking stupid but this is just embarrassing. I pity anyone that has to deal with these animals on a daily basis. You should just leave AI to China.

>>747546661
Nice job reporting my post like a faggot you fucking loser bitch

why's this schizo retard posting fox news talking points now

>>747551737
https://youtu.be/-YzdzYbEWOg

Who knows but its got bones. Go to 46 seconds.

>>747551815
Shitty, huh. You should kill yourself.

>>747551887
nigga...

>>747551815
I'll never understand why low IQ reactionaries force themselves to have such visceral reactions to a new technology which, while certainly not infallible, is proving itself to be more and more useful as its competence increases over time.

>>747552064
You're incredibly stupid as demonstrated by your tendency to yap unprompted without having any idea who you're speaking to

>>747551815
It's called deflection.
Someone criticizes you? Call them brown, Chinese, Indian, whatever. They think it's a win button but it really just shows how pathetic they are.

>>747552046
What more could you possibly want. Especially from a failed project demo. Walk me through what could convince you.

>>747552123
Yellow hands typed this.
>>747552124
Brown hands typed this.

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This thread is bizarre, I think you are all poorly coded AI agents sent here to spew random nonsense for some nefarious purpose.
+1 to dead internet theory

>>747551887
>>747551585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHnAqxAE7fQ
Drakengard is techincally "rollslop" too, anon. Just because it was an action combat game with rolling doesn't mean it was going to be good.

>>747552247
thank god for Arioch blowing away everything with her magic so I could skip a lot of the fighting

>>747552123
Anyone who has been having multiple daily self-inflicted meltdowns about AI for the past 4 years is stupid.

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>>747552247
For sure. I just really want my FF rollslop, and we were this close! The hope being the FF would take care of the quality part.

>>747552316
ah yes, the great AI that hallucinated ササ instead of サガ

>>747552216
The other Anon got me. Im a FF2 shill sent to boost FF2 sales. I also push old reddit. This plot has been 38 and 16 years in the making. Please read 2010 Reddit posts about FF2, but not about the roms and buy it.

>>747552467
What are you even melting down about, man?

>>747551760
do the chinese do this

>>747552542
This isn't even that absurd of a possibility, half of what AI does is regurgitate stupid garbage from the internet.

>>747552775
Plausible but there haven't been enough retarded errors in this thread. Not once have the bots called it Fanal Fantasy.