Where is the Xbox port

1. this is a brilliant
2. i'm am to being play the living shit out of it
3. most of you are paki and have no moneys like timmy

No new class?
What's the fucking point? it's just the same boring game with new graphics? cant I just play classic wow or a private server for this?

>>747555736
They literally anon, and I mean literally (yes, literally) said they are going to keep adding new content. You'll get your playable ogres and your new class, just have patience for fucks sake.

looks bad, not playing

>>747554094
I expected this like half a decade ago
still kinda cool that they are actually doing it

>>747555927
Doubt, you'll be the first to play.

>>747554591
Honestly shocked it wasn't announced. Especially given the switch 2 sponsorship.

>>747555736
they're making all the dogshit unusable specs functional so it's like having 10 new classes

>>747554094
the only things im kinda bummed about:
blue elves instead of ogres/murlocs
no tank rogue / healer mage to combat tank/healer shortages in dungeons like in sod
"forever" is a stupid name
60 bucks for beta access

>>747556276
>tank rogue
That makes no sense fantasy wise

>>747556276
They should do tank shamans.

>>747556505
dodging instead of blocking makes sense
in lots of tabletop games like baldurs gate your armor class dictates on how hard you are to hit, not what happens if you actually get hit

>>747556276
Lol tank and healer shortage is not the issue of class limitation. There are plenty of wars running around in classic that don't want to tank. Mainly because it never gets easier since you'll never know when you get paired with some dps that out gears you and will constantly pull threat.

>>747556769
>There are plenty of wars running around in classic that don't want to tank
the vast majority of warrior players are absolute retards

>>747556835
Well they do have low int

>>747554094
it's definitely a lot better than what I was expecting, it'll at the very least be really fun the first couple of months
the new elf race is really lame, they go on about how it's about keeping the spirit of the classic game and first thing they do is "yea, there were these smurf elves in some sky island that no one knew about for a million years, they've just been there bro", but whatever

the mishmash of different poly counts on everything is also low effort as fuck
hopefully they learned the right lessons from SoD

>>747554094
>I'm gonna play the living shit out of it
go and be gay
I wouldn't mind a wow classic with new content, but current blizzard are retarded and can't make good games
as you can see by the inclusion of the Sky'dorei from Sky'thalas

>>747557182
sod was very fun mixed with questionable shit like incursions

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I just dont like how they made it look.

>>747556943
I don't understand why the new race is lame. Looks cool to me, I'll wait until they add the second race and make them free, then I'll play through their story

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am i fucking blind or do priests not get penance?

>>747557583
>I'll wait until they add the second race
What's that going to be? Red pandas?

>oh boy, I can't wait to play a 20 year old game but now with new content written by mentally ill leftists!
I honestly think MMO nostalgia is a disease.

>>747557583
You pay a game worth of money to get a reskinned elf that has absolutely no lore background.

You might be okay with this (as with the bullshit haranir) but defending it is stupid.

>>747557583
they're just regular ass blood elves but different and special enough so they call sell them for 30 rocks idk

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oh well

>>747557674
Probably ogres or goblins on horde side, maybe high elves on alliance.

>>747557860
Lamo

>>747554094
World of Warcraft Forever is a gay name and the blue elves are regarded. This has low soul points.

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>>747558041
Ok the name is gay I'll give you that. But don't you dare speak ill of my new blue waifu!

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based. we can finally go home

>paying 30 dollars for a blue skin on a race that already exists that was only put into the game for the overbearingly annoying chinese market that only play fapbait characters
>paying 30 dollars more to beta test 90% vanilla content and 10% changes (probably even less since you are level capped to 30) and spoiling yourself on any new content
>blizzbucks will defend this

>>747558417
kek

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>>747554094
I have 4 main problems with this.

1) It doesn't seem like there's going to be enough content for release and it doesn't seem like they are actually going to do anything about how a fuckton of people are going to min/max everything and just blow through it all in less than a couple of weeks. People will complete all the dungeons, then complete the raids, and we're right back to the same issue WoW has had for 25 years with "raid logging" and waiting for Blizzard to release new stuff.
2) It seems like their release cadence is going to way too slow for people to be able to continue to constantly play the game forever, like they said they wanted people to do.
3) They went on and on about how they wanted to keep the spirit of the original game intact, but then introduce shit like the retail UI and selling races + transmogs + mounts, which inevitably is going to lead to them ending up with a cash shop full of those things, just like retail.
4) It unironically needs more changes. They are trying way too hard to keep things like talents and classes to be vanilla-like, but with TINY changes. They need to do more bold stuff and should have looked towards the private servers that they shut down and done what they did. Hopefully this comes in due time though, as they said "nothing is off the table" for future updates.
TL;DR I'll definitely play it, but I fear that Blizzard hasn't done enough for release and I fear that they will be too slow at updating and releasing new things. And they will very likely ruin the "classic spirit" with a cash shop over time.

I'll prob hop on for a month but I simply don't trust Blizzard to even remotely understand what made Vanilla Vanilla. We're talking about a company that is literally allergic to friction. On paper a lot of what they're saying seems decent, but for example, they didn't mention if add-ons were banned (they should be, otherwise encounters will have to be designed around dbm again), and the blue elves already scream 100% retail, as does making tank takents on warrior get a bonus/only function when wielding a shield. Ofc dual wield warrior tanking was stupid thematically, but it was a direct result of what made classic interesting, which is that players were given imperfect, not fully thought through tools, that happened to benefit classes in ways different from what was anticipated. A lot of this new stuff just has the retail flavor of having specific things you should be doing in mind, which sounds like better game design on paper, but the deepest games are often stupid ones, not the ones streamlined like Wolverine PS5

>>747558417
Millennibros.. finally our forever home

>>747558428
It's a good thing because it gives them a convenient excuse to keep adding new races and paywal them. This keeps players happy and shareholders happy.

You don't understand the brilliant balancing act going on here, and it shows.

>>747558504
>it doesn't seem like they are actually going to do anything about how a fuckton of people are going to min/max everything and just blow through it all in less than a couple of weeks
the game, no matter what it does, literally cannot solve this problem, bvaus it is a problem with today's players and the times we're in, not the game itself. all they can do is implement systems that encourage in game socialization and hope some people will engage with them, but the truth is that the people of today value convenience above everything, even if it hurts the experience (which they don't consciously register and only feel in the resulting impulses)

personally, I think I'll try to create a guild for people who want to play the game diegetically not relying on outside resources.

>>747558558
I kinda see your point about the game design, but I don't see something like vanilla being made today or even if it was it'll get figured out a hundred times faster and then you're back at minmaxing meaning a billion warriors per raid
It seems like a good portion of the Classic diehards actually want to keep that kind of balance, which I just don't understand, there's nothing soulful about imperfect systems being perfectly exploited

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This is impossible to implement according to blizzard btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7ZEbEcpcvE

>>747558558
>but it was a direct result of what made classic interesting, which is that players were given imperfect, not fully thought through tools, that happened to benefit classes in ways different from what was anticipated.
But it didn't though.
All the burden was just shifted on to healers. There's a huge difference of how stressful it is to heal a DW war tank and a shield tank.
I actually enjoyed healing when they were wearing a shield. But when they were DW i never knew when the tank was going to blow up because i went to heal someone else in the party.
I was playing a paladin which was an extra issue for me because paladins have no hots or shields so you have nothing to actually keep the tank alive while healing others.

>>747558842
The difference is that with this one they haven't painted themselves into a corner and if class balance is fucked they can change it.

>>747554094
So sick of you corpo defence force freaks.

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>>747558847
unless i can slide it to 0 im not interested

>>747554094
Shill harder, fagbot. Not buying it.

>>747558781
>the game, no matter what it does, literally cannot solve this problem
There's ways to solve it. They could make it more of a sandbox-ish experience where there would be a big focus on something like Archeage/Silkroad Online's trade runs to make crafting more important. They could also make it so that there's always some big faction events like the AQ40 war efforts. They could also make it into a PvP-based MMO with territorial control ala things like EVE/Dark Age of Camelot/Planetside/etc. so there's always something to do and log in for daily.

Alternatively, they could also go very wild and straight up outsource things like dungeon/raid/questline creations to the playerbase by giving out some sort of mod tools and having a Steam-like workshop where people could vote on what they wanted implemented the most, and then every month Blizzard would pick 2-3 new dungeons and 1 raid from the top rated ones.

This whole "the playerbase has to wait for Blizzard to make new stuff" idea is so fucking stupid at this point. WoW has ran on that for 25 years and it always ends up with people raid logging or straight up quitting because Blizzard is just not fast enough at making new content.

>classic +
>colors gone
>anti soul fog in
thank you jizzard

>>747558417
>no future
>no prospects
>enough fortune to live and die playing this
Accurate enough to hurt.

>>747554094
When I watched the trailer I wasn't sure whether this shit was supposed to be the new Retail expac, because it looked like literal shit.

>>747558847
What's the point, every RP goonertranny is going to have it set to max, anyway.

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>>747554094
Based. It just looks like Vanilla with some good things added from retail, and without the ADHD bullshit. I'll take that for $15, since I am not interested in playing gay elves anyway.

>>747559079
>anyone who isn't a chronic complainer is a corporate apologist
Lol. Lmao even. Fuck off, I like the game and I'm gonna play it, cry harder.

>>747559472
options are good, blizzard doesn't want to make options, modders do

>>747559164
none of that addresses the issue...?

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Why are modders so far ahead of blizzard?

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>>747559149
>0 breast size
>100 hip size

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all I care about is playing hardcore self found

>>747559694
Unfathomably based and ssf pilled

I wonder if they'll ever try a version of WoW balanced for solo play or small groups. Been playing EverQuest Legends which is basically an official version of The Heroes Journey private server that was so popular the people who make EQ sued them.

>all that Lordaeron datamined stuff
>all those Lordaeron logos all over blizzcon and merch
>arthas arpg not announced
>classic+ is just retail- and undercity still exists
So what the fuck was that all about?

>>747558558
Vanilla is not a good game
Vanilla is not a deep game
Addons were able to play the game for you in vanilla

>>747559628
>none of that addresses the issue...?
It literally addresses the entire issue of having done everything in the game and now there's nothing to do, except wait for the next update, which then leads to raid logging or quitting. What the fuck are you talking about?

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>>747554094
>1) This is brilliant
It indeed is brilliant, the fact that they are immediately adding blue elves who come out of nowhere lore-wise AND paid mounts while they were saying on stage that the existing lore was important and that buying your first mount with gold was an important moment for your character/the player is an excellent hint from those devs that they have no power and are lead by the marketing department. I can't wait to see the WoW token and level skip come out even faster on Forever than on Classic.

>2) I'm gonna play the living shit out of it
Good goy, don't forget to buy the collector edition multiple times to show Blizzard how much you like them, you can buy up to 3 per home address.

>3) Most of you fags are just addicted to complaining and would complain regardless of what the game was. Bunch of negative Nancies lol
No, we just know how Blizzard is now and are holding them to a higher standard, but it's ok to like shit like you do too, after all, billions of flies, pigs and indians do to.

>>747559743
They announced HC, but did they say anything about the SF toggle?
I know you can enforce it yourself but I really liked how it made your banks individual to each toon

>>747554094
I know you've got to pay for the blue elves but do you need to pay for the game itself, like an expansion? Or is it like current classic where it comes with the subscription?

>>747559750
>I wonder if they'll ever try a version of WoW balanced for solo play
They are releasing a separate solo gamemode that's a roguelike/lite kind of thing. I think that's as close to solo they'll ever get.

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/news/talebound-wows-next-game-mode-is-a-roguelike-arpg/

>>747559902
Just the sub.

>>747559847
You would complain no matter what they did. You simply love complaining. Well guess what faggot I'm gonna be enjoying my undead priest while you continue to screech at the sky.

>>747559884
>They announced HC, but did they say anything about the SF toggle?
HC has had that since early 2024.
>https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24056987/wow-hardcore-self-found-mode-now-live

>>747559941
Ok I guess ill try it out then thanks. But I will /spit on every gay blue elf i see

Honestly? Them enabling neo-graphics and adding some lore breaking OC donut Race shows that they're out of touch

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>>747554094
>retail 2.0

>>747560065
Nope, for one simple reason: no flying.

Blizzard did the right thing for once.

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not paying for fagslop

>>747559958
As I said, it's perfectly ok for you to like eating shit as your indian genes compel you to, there's no need to be upset at me nor am I angry at you for obeying your nature. I'll just stay on my private servers in the meantime, since, if we follow how they handled private servers after classic was announced, those are now safe for at least 5 years.

>>747559810
>It literally addresses the entire issue of having done everything in the game and now there's nothing to do
but that was never the issue?

>>747559768
it's not that deep, but it is interesting, and it has friction, and that friction makes vanilla special.

>>747558781
The real issue is that you can't actually socialise anymore. All chats are AI modded, if you say anything that's wrongthink you get banned. So people don't engage with others, and MMOs turn into single player slop.

>>747560065
>retail but the world matters, there is no ADHD bullshit and no flying
Yeah, it's gonna be peak

>>747554094
Dunno how but the trailer gave me this weird feelings, like they wanted to invoke notalgia, but the dwaft character look like senile player that have this found memory of og wow, just alone going home in their heads when sparkle fart sprite that looks like smth out of nutrailers becons it to check new development. Drawf just agrees but without much of enthusiasm, just like he consumed whatever shit throwed at the player before he does it automaticly. He explore the old amusment park, there are changes, hes trusty low iq bear pet seem to enjoy, yet they are alone there. It feels empty, because it is, there a single other character, ud paladin, another player stuck in his baement mental prison of only playing whatever mmo is on the menu in this month.
They both going through actions, but its not living. They just happen to breath while playing game exploiting their memories of time when they were really careless and young.
I was a hard og wow and classic player, but this trailer told me everything I need to know about it and it nothing new. Nublizz is terrible company thats unable to capture the magic they so easly weaved during 90/early 2000. Moreover, they know it and still focus on exploiting users. Supporting this and familar companies make it so everything changes into this type of shit model much faster than it occurs naturaly.
Call me debbie downer op, but maybe try something new, maybe diffrent. Revisiting old stuff can be fun from time to time, but fixating on it is most harmful form of escapism.

>>747560261
>"I can't socialize without using the word nigger in every sentence"

>>747554094
>fucking sky elves
>30 dollarinos
It tells you verything you need to know, WoW Forever will become indistinguishable from retail.

Besides that, I swore to never again give nuBlizzard another cent since Shadowlands.

>>747560306
Yes.

>>747560252
>but that was never the issue?
You don't think it's an issue that people exhaust the content that's available and then stop playing the game either temporarily, or all together? If you don't think that's an issue, then I don't know what to tell you.

This has literally been happening in every version of WoW since its inception.

>>747560293
kek at the interpretation of the trailer, it's true that it fails to capture the actual spirit they're trying to go for

>>747560191
Your tiny mind can't even comprehend how good this game will be. But please, continue throwing a tantrum, it's cute.

>>747560339
Again that's brilliant because it literally means they will keep adding new races. And they will make the old ones free for each new race they add.

How is this anything but a huge W?

>>747560293
>>747560368
>Disney music
>cozy environments
>characters being silly
>no sign of war or conflict
Literally the only part of the entire trailer that looked somewhat like normal Warcraft was the 10 seconds where the Undead Paladin charges at the Dwarf Hunter. Everything else felt like they were trying to make a trailer for a Disney movie.

What the fuck were they thinking?

>>747560518
>>Disney music
>>cozy environments
>>characters being silly
>>no sign of war or conflict
That's how classic plays in reality tho.What's the issue?

>>747560602
LARP LARP LARP SAHUR

>>747560361
no, I don't think that's the issue, and in your original post you don't present that as an issue either. You said the issue was going to be that players will just min/max, blow through the game in a few weeks. the problem here is not the amount of content, the problem is player behaviour. endless content is not a solution to how people engage with the game, not to mention that "a le reason to log in daily" aka some fucking treadmill is just misguided to begin with. ok, players will min/max, rush through the game because they have been conditioned to only think about endgame, and eventually clear all the content until the next update. but what about you? are you happy playing that way? you don't have to play that way and unlike some other games, this game actually does not encourage or ask you to play that way, so why do it? do you also use speedruns as examples of the baseline experience. moreover, what is wrong with having seen everything, and simply putting down the game? why do you want to log in every day and do some daily endgame thing? is that your idea of being pulled into the world? even if there was endless amounts of content, people would still distill a list of all the content that is worthwhile, and do their darndest to only engage with that content because everything else is "worthless".

>>747560478
Low impulse faggots are mad because they're gonna buy it, just like beta access
>oh no some retard bought $90 edition to get a 3 day early access where he can do virtually nothing as the season won't start for another two weeks
It's always the same.

>>747558847
it looks like shit

>>747560668
>and in your original post you don't present that as an issue either
>You said the issue was going to be that players will just min/max, blow through the game in a few weeks
>blow through the game in a few weeks
Are you mentally handicapped or something?

>the problem here is not the amount of content, the problem is player behaviour
>endless content is not a solution to how people engage with the game
It literally is though. You make content that CAN'T be min/maxed like long war efforts, crafting/trade runs, PvP-focused things, etc.

>why do you want to log in every day and do some daily endgame thing?
If an MMO does NOT make you want to log in every day, then that is a failure of a game. The fact that you are even questioning this, makes me think that you are very likely a zoomer and/or a casual and/or a woman.

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>>747559693

Can't wait to play as body type 2 in WoW Forever

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CLASSIC+ SIS NOT LIKE THIS ACK

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>>747560339

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Convincing WoW fans they're about to get duped again feels a bit tiring.

>>747561303
>Implying it's not going to be red pandas or yellow goblins next.

>>747560293 #
I mean no one is denying the Disneyfication of WoW, but fact remains that this will be the best MMORPG to play and nothing else will come close.

Maybe if the gay retards making Pantheon actually made a good game I'd play that. But as it is right now Blizzard has the only good MMO.

>>747554094
Sweet, can I play as my restoration shaman from 2008?

>>747560898
you have been mindraped by cultural capitalism

>>747561568
Nothing has ever come close to peak wow. We might be back

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>>747557589
blind

>>747562068
You're not going back. You have your opportunities on private servers or you're getting fleeced.

>>747555826
>just have patience for fucks sake.
Niggah how can you say this shit to me, when people have wanted classic + since TBC?
niggah have patience?

>>747554094
>Blizzard is back
How many times have we said this?

>>747562298
Private servers are full of retards whose idea of fun is spamming NIGGER in the global chat. Go play there if you've never outgrown your edgy 16yo phase. I want a civilized game.

>>747561597
no that character is on retail.

>>747561303
It's Coon Elf for me.

>>747563109
thats fun though

>>747558504
>>not enough content
>2 new raids + onyxia (presumably with some revamps) on launch
>9 new dungeons (2 of which are max level)
>3 new zones
>Legacy system that encourages you to roll new characters
>Revamped PvP system
What do you want? There's plenty of shit to do
>>Patch cadence too slow
>2 new raids and dungeons, zone and legendary questline in spring (presumably 3-4 months after launch)
>2 raids, 2 dungeons and more world content in the summer (presumably 3-4 months after previous patch)
Nigger, what do you want? That's fast as fuck compared to literally any other MMO on the market
>cash shop+transmogs+mounts are retail
That's not what makes retail, retail. The pace and feeling of gameplay in retail is completely different to classic, and that's actually what makes the real difference.
>Needs more changes
If there were more changes you'd be crying about it being too much retail, but this time you'd actually have a point

>>747563109
I had more fun playing private servers than doing anything in retail or classic. You also don't get banned for saying Fuck like in Blizzard's games.

it's not about enjoying WoW in your 40s, it's about trying to convince people online your entire life isn't a waste and that actually replaying the same subscription MMO for 20+ years and counting is a good thing actually

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>>747563172
>SAAR PLZ PLAY MY EMPLOYERS GAME SAAR PLLLLZ MY IZZAT SAARS!!!!

>>747563279
as far as hobbies go wow is one of the cheapest ones

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>>747554094
goyim test was already successful

Are they going to do that bullshit where they let you make both alliance and horde on the same server?

>>747554094
Let it go.

>>747559847
Sir, mindraping the paypiggy goyim too hard is illegal.

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>>747554094
Ahem..

>>747563542
Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

>>747557589
I'm more interested by the fact that Spriest can now cast holy damaging spells and there's a +18% hit for holy spells in disc.

>>747563172
>2 raids
vanilla content is a joke, cleared week 1
Ony isnt at launch
>9 dungeons
>only 2 max level
so its 2 dungeons
>3 new zones
irrelevant because Im in SM leveling
So theres 2 max level dungeons

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>>747563172
>What do you want? There's plenty of shit to do
Everything you mentioned is expected to last until Spring 2027, which could mean May 31st at the latest. That's 208 days or 7 months. If it's March 1st then it's 117 days or 4 months. Either way, that is definitely not enough content.

People will fucking blast through the dungeons immediately and the raids will be on farm really fast too, considering that they are introduction raids.

>Blizzard announces another turd
>10-20 damage control threads a day
Yawn, when is your supervisor gonna update your script, this is boring, we've been doing this for 10 years now

>>747563883
Not me, I'm gonna roleplay. You minmaxing faggots are nothing but Retail tourists. You don't know how to play the game.

>>747563883
Name a single MMO that releases 2 raids in the spring and 2 in the summer of the same year. Seems to me like you'll never be happy

>>747564112
>none of this is organic because my tiny mond can't comprehend that people love the game
Ok, you probably think all the subs are paid for by Blizzard too then? You are so fucking stupid

>>747564228
SSAARRRR
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DO NOT BE THE BENCHOD TIMMY DALIT, WOW IS BRAHMIN GAME SAR

Rate my build niggers :)
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>>747564292
0/10 for being a wowtroon

>>747564202
other raids have bosses with more than 1 mechanic
more effort goes into a single ultimate in XIV than all of Foreverslops raids, I promise
quantity over quality is shitskin thinking

>>747564813
True, dance dance revolution programmers work a lot harder than MMO programmers

>>747564929
those are MMO fights
in fact super complicated raid bosses are the defining feature of MMOs that set their fights apart from other genres
maybe slopnilla should take notes

>>747564813
If the Forever raids are anything like Scarlet Enclave, I can tell you that I'm going to enjoy them more than the first 4 Ultimates that I did in XIV.
But please stay in XIV, thanks.

>>747565057
youve never done an ultimate in your life

>>747565031
They're dance dance revolution fights, yes. Glad we cleared that up!

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>>747565128
I did the first 4.
UWU and UCoB were pretty easy since I did them in ShB. Can't really say I enjoyed them a lot, though UCoB had some fun stuff
TEA was good, easily the best
DSR was extremely boring to prog as a tank and it put me off from raiding in XIV in general

>>747565145
No, theyre MMO fights
Dance Dance Revolution isnt an MMO

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>giving money to Activision/Blizzard/Microsoft

>>747565368
>tank
yeah so anyway play a real role

is this worth playing at 1-2 hours a day? i'm not a neet anymore

>>747565507
Planning on balance druid

>>747565507
Yeah play a healer, OOPS I MEANT GREEN DPS, so you can press one button the entire fight KEK
Literally less complex than some classic classes

>>747559472
85% to 400%. This will prevent everyone from maxing.

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>>747564112
100% this
There isn't even any point in doing this because the only people who would touch WoW with a 10 foot pole is the people who are already hopelessly addicted
Blizzard only makes games for their captive audience
Any newcomer who is even remotely interested in the MMO experience is going to play XIV or Runescape

Go back to R*ddit OP, you don't belong here

>>747565597
I would never pretend like XIV healer is a real role
its actually impressive only retail WoW has real healers

>>747565841
>waaah someone likes a game I hate
Roody poo candy-ass, I've been on this forsaken website longer than you've been alive. Faggot

>>747565717
I tried playing Runescape and I've had more fun arranging pebbles on a beach. It's just such a janky game. I'm sure it's decent if you can get past that somehow.

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Things that made Turtle good that this shit won't have
1. Cross faction trading, grouping and chat
>but muh rp, muh warcraft.
Go pvp nigger, I hated how to pool for socialising and groups was cut in half in retail vanilla. If you were on a server with a skewed faction balance you were shit out of luck for trading and groups sometimes.
2. RMT and bots were actually banned, GM's would respond within seconds to a few minutes. I saw one guy I reported get banned for multiboxing right in front of me and the GM gave me a few gold for reporting him. I have no doubt that some RMT still happened but compared to retail it was night and day.
3. GM's actually responded and were humans, not AI slop.

>>747554094
Why would anybody play retail shit over this though? Like this will kill retail.

>>747567043
for actual depth and skill expression?

>>747567043
Housing and Xalatath toes

>>747567565
>actual depth and skill expression?
lol

>>747567651
post logs

>>747554094
This couldn't look gayer if they tried to

>>747567690
subhuman

>>747567836
gray parsing shitskin

>>747559472
Why should the existence of retards being retarded prevent sane people from having the option?

there's no way they made 1000 new quests, unless it's all just AI generated shit

>>747564813
>more effort goes into a single ultimate in XIV than all of Foreverslops raids, I promise
lmao absolutely not.
recycling all assets and cranking up the numbers hard is low effort.

>>747554094
Dunno who this is for. Classicfags will hate it because it's not identical to what they played in 2005. Retailfags won't play it because if it's built on Classic then the mechanics will be too simple. All this does is splinter the playerbase even further
>retail
>classic (mop)
>classic (era)
>classic (hardcore)
>classic (anniversary)
>SOD
>forever
>no doubt there will be some other mode when forever flops the same way SOD did
It's no wonder the game feels dead, there are 10 modes and every mode has 50 servers. If you play anything other than the newest retail expansion on the highest pop server in your region, you will go hours without even seeing another player. The classic server stats are actually pathetic, they are keeping servers online that have 0 raiding guilds and less than 50 weekly players.

>>747557583
You never played vanilla

>>747563172
>>2 raids, 2 dungeons and more world content in the summer (presumably 3-4 months after previous patch)
>Nigger, what do you want? That's fast as fuck compared to literally any other MMO on the market
Anon, that's a slower release cadance than ff14 and that cadance is slower than pre-covid and was something they announced speeding back up at their fanfest.
>That's not what makes retail, retail.
That's one of the biggest things that make retail retail. You can't have pay to win bullshit while still pretending you're doing things in the spirit of classic.

>>747568504
Savage raids are 9 months apart and they only have 4 bosses
Alliance "raids" are just glorified dungeons
Nobody gives a fuck about Ultimates

>>747568459
>recycling assets
did you miss the Forever trailer or something you fucking retard?
>and cranking numbers up
its all new mechanics retard, and they have to actually tune the numbers properly unlike easymode tank n spank slop. That means a lot of testing

>>747568769
>chaotic, variant, criterion, exploration
As opposed to two dungeons and raids where only a couple of bosses have any bite to them?
Even if you're raidlogging you get a faster cadence, but like your point with ultimates most people aren't raidlogging.

>>747569339
lol