This is it.'World of Warcraft: Forever' will be the ultimate "goyim test" of gamers in the 21th century. Whether Forever is a commercial success or not will determine whether White gamers are the ultimate loser goyim who deserve to be exterminated, or whether there's a shred of hope for our existence.This is the ultimate test of false marketing promises vs. a consumer's ability to smell shit from far away.There is absolutely nothing to indicate that any of their "promises" (the word promise here is used in the context of marketing language) are true. None of the game mechanics that would need to be overhauled in order to result in a WoW that favors horizontal progression over vertical progression - has actually been overhauled in that way.'Forever' are essentially just glorified WoW Classic Era realms, but with more dungeons and more raids once every 6 months. Within a few weeks of release, everyone will be level 60, within 2-3 months, everyone will be max geared, the realms will lose 75%+ of their populations, and the only people who remain will be raidloggers, because there will be nothing else to actually do in the game. Even the next content patch that introduces new dungeons and raids will simply just move up the item levels by maybe 5 or 10, since we're stuck at 60 forever.If you play WoW Forever and turn it into a commercial success for Blizzard, you are truly the lowest form of life on this planet, a true "Goy", and you deserve to be exterminated.
>>747560248
who’s going to exterminate me? (You)? bring it on
>>747560325You will exterminate yourself by wasting your existence giving your thrice-taxed salary to a company that puts manure in the trough and calls it quality.This sends the following signal to the rest of the gaming industry for all time to follow:>"They have no standards, we can just shovel shit their way and they'll pay us for it."If you financially reward Blizzard by playing WoW: Forever, you are your own doom.
if the games fun ill play itsimple asnow take your meds
>>747560248Most people are cattle and are gonna try it out despite shitting on it and pissing their pants over every minor change and the new race. I don't know why you act like we need some tests to see whether people are like that. You have retarded uncs that keep saying how they didn't play WoW for 16 years but are in every WoW discussion still hoping the game is gonna be good again and they'll feel young again.
>>747560445VERY GOOD SAAR
>>747560445it won't be fun, you should not play it
Can you repeat your buzzwords a few more times, I didn't quite understand if this is the ultimate goyim test yet
>>747560526>you are indian if you play video gamesmeds
>>747560248>21th Centurysaar
>>747560248Summary of your post:>it will be like classic but with content drop every 6 monthAnd how is it a bad thing exactly?
>>747560376how much do you make on your salary?
>>747560685because uh muh heckin elves n shiet mane
itt people who bitch about this game but will play it regardless
>>747560685Because uuuh it just fucking is you goycattle. You're supposed to complain about /v/ and listen to asmongold in your freetime instead of playing videogames you fucking vermin!
didn't read, already pre-ordered
>>747560248Why the fuck would i want horizontal progression? I want my character to get stronger.
>>747560685>content by the guys who haven't made nothing but gay retarded shit for the past decade
>>747560821from what i can tell, it does, its just more about gear progression and they might add more abilities to classesits too early to tell what horizontal progression really means
>>747560768even asmongold isnt seething about it, from what i can tell its just /v/theres definitely reasons to believe its gonna be bad but its just too early
>>747560565The last 78 times /v/ said a game would be unfun and bad it was actually fun and good, so #79 wouldn't surprise me.
The paid dlc race is fucking terrible and a 50£ beta they just want to milk you all for money how fucking mazed do you have to be to not see that LMAO pathetic shit nuke blizzard hq nuke every classic wow streamer homes aswell
>>747560248I will treat anyone who plays this like I treat those who wore face diapers. Never interact with NPCs.
>>747560248>Ascension died for this garbage
>>747560698erm I actually survive on my elderly moms pension and government gibs
>>747560248No matter how raped WoW Forever is, no matter how annoying parse obsessed white EU WoW players are, they are still less of an 'Ultimate Goyim' than "people" who enjoy playing phone crap like Diablo Immortal.
>>747560904That's probably because Asmongold is goycattle raised by an Evangelical family and worships Israel. He's a classic American golem and has shit taste.
>>747560926yeah the first 2 packages are such shit dealsi got the third because of warcraft III and the new expansion, the price of that alone is like 80% of the deal plus the ingame time which im going to pay for anyway
>>747560248I will play it. Already excited to level up my characters again.
>>747560698is this supposed to be some sort of gotcha LMFAO
>>747561029he even said on stream that he was "goying out" when talking about how he's going to buy the figurine packageits quite hilarious how raped the internet culture is by /pol/vve vvqn
lmao the fuck is this nigger bullshit?
>>747560925You are a Goy.
a guy i play friendslop with asked me if i was going to play wow 2I said 'is that like overwatch 2?' and he hasn't replied since
>>747560821It worked in turtle.>I want my character to get stronger.Then fuck off to regular classic
>>747561079scared someone will make assumptions about you? you seem pretty insecure
>>747560649sorry saar, you are right
>>747561165The money I make is of course as tax-raped as the money you make, my point was that you're using your meagre pay to buy dogshit products by people who didn't put any effort into it and who hate you.
>>747560698Not him but 6k per month is gud and i used to spend half of it feeding blizzard til bfa because i finally accepted that this game is for browns with toasters who dserves the word wumao for still defending blizzard after what they did to warcraft 3 as the rape of their old games.Even bethesda and obsidian are less jewish chinkoids than blizzard for fucks sake.
>>747560248I know, OP. I know.
it seems that even reddit hates the new elves
basically it is a private server wow a decade later that you have to pay for? who the fuck is this shit for? retards?
>>747560904I think if you adjust your expectations and just expect something between retail and vanilla it can't be that bad.
>>747561267Will we ever see better days?
>>747561135No. Horizontal progression is a meme for communist trannies. "We should all be the same!". Pathetic. I put in more time and played better so my character should have better stats than yours, simple as. GW2 is a dead tranny game, every mmo with horizontal progression is dead, because nobody wants that shit. An rpg is over once your character can't get any stronger.
>>747560248>it's very important to me that other people don't have fun or enjoy things
>>747561320I really dont care too much, theres nothing all that special about classic to me, its more about the game design itself than the fact that its classicThe thing I dislike is the random blue elves, but its pretty minor and I can just ignore itIm more curious about the long term content development than the surface level bullshit like that
>>747561443I thought people would be intelligent enough to understand the underlying message, but perhaps I need to make it clear: If you reward gaming companies with your money when they produce cancer like this, you are incentivizing the gaming industry to continue producing cancer like this.WoW Forever is obviously going to be horseshit, boring, and dead within a year or two at most. Why would you financially reward Blizzard, which only incentivizes them to produce more horseshit like this in the future?
>>747560248WoW fags are the most braindead cattle out there, even worse than gachafags. 20 versions of the same 20yo+ MMO, they pay monthly sub for it, pay for DLCs, full out gold trading via tokens and RMT, cash shop with paywalled races and level boosts. WoW fags whine about it all the time but at the end of the day they buy everything anyway like braindead cattle they are.
>>747560248This post is entirely AI-generated.
>>747561304>retards You answered your own question, also blizzard is scared shitless of Asha and dropped those trailers in hopes that microsoft doesnt nuke them from orbit.Which ms will do anyway because cod was a failure, diablo 4 was sidelined and now war3 got fucked in the ass again.Also blizzard wasted nearly 120mi on lawsuits against private servers which also pissed off the higher ups at Microsoft because it was their money.
>>747560248>. Within a few weeks of releasethere'll be a lvl 30 phase retard
>>747561557i made too many mistakes for it to be AI generated
>>747560248Sweet, can I play as my restoration shaman from 2008?
>>747561584>n-no it will be different this time
>>747561332>No. Horizontal progression is a meme for communist trannies.Funnily enough you can enjoy vertical prog on retail with actual commie trannies and actual tranny quests and actual tranny events
Can't wait to play as body type 2 in WoW Forever
>>747560248Don't care, I'm playing it.
>>747561624>make some mistakes
>>747561584Oh my bad, within a few months of release then?
>>747561624You say that like you can't just tell the AI to make mistakes, or add them in yourself.The sentence structure and phrasing completely gives it away.
>>747561637kek i remember when i saw an actual in game tranny in dragonflightthats when i knew it was over for retail and never coming back
>>747561637And retail is 50x more popular than classicBecause players want vertical progression
>>747561697>The sentence structure and phrasing completely gives it away.how do i convince you that you're a transsexual who is obsessed with AI?
>>747561738which is why they went on stage and said fuck retail and everyone cheered while midnight was dead air
>>747561753Xhe obviously paid for the pig too
>>747561789They are paid to shill everything, is this your first blizzcon you inbred faggot?
>>747561753Damn, this is the best you can do?
>>747561584Looks like nearly all the new content is end game lvl 60. If they do a lvl 30 cap then isnt everyone just gonna be playing normal classic for the first few months?
>>747561519Don't even bother anon. Look at the retard you're replying to. He's so fucking stupid and yet he has no idea, these people simply are the goyim
>>747561519Counterpoint: if I actually enjoy and have fun with "cancer like this", then why should I be upset if the gaming industry produces more of it?
I've never played wow before but I've played a bunch of other MMOs, missed the chance to jump in when classic was launched so this will be my entry point.I know people just want to shit on everyone and be rude for whatever reason but this is what I want in an MMO. A connected world with no loading screens, questing, exploration and discovery.It's what I've wanted in FF14 for years but it's never going to be that game, so I'll give this a try and see how it goes.
>>747561519>STOP HAVING FUNNo.
>>747561304>who the fuck is this shit for?Me.
>>747561835Nice reading comprehension
>>747561789>uhh but the paid shills trying to sell $90 goypacks said the buzzwordsAnd you think this matters?
>>747560248Blizzard apes don't even like WoW, they just love the idea of giving their money to Blizzard, if Blizzard opened a Kickstarter with the only goal of "Fuck you give me money" all of them would gladly participate and shame anyone trying to discourage them from giving their money for absolutely nothing but selfhatred
>>747560248You're right, but I'm weak. I need to play it. I HAVE TO HAVE IT.
>>747561938Source: your ass
>>747561519>I thought people would be intelligentThat's where you are wrong, people are mass and mass isn't smart
>>747561934either there's two retarded brownies itt or you're samefagging
I'm just confused on the lore aspect. Mount Hijal already is in wow, so what the hell is this forever version? Same with dalaran coming back and the new zones. This is all just for classic and a separate time line? They have 2 world of warcrafts now?
>>747562002" all of them would gladly participate and shame anyone trying to discourage them from giving their money for absolutely nothing but selfhatred"See, as predicted
>>747561938And yesterday the shit was full on satanic cult of personality.Literally a religious cult shit.
>>747560248there cant be a single non seamonkey who gives a shit about WoW and doesn't play it for free.
>>747561064you totally showed them what for
>>747562053No, you just make things up and expect people to believe the garbage you're spewing. You invented a caricature of the playerbase completely divorced from reality.
>>747561876are you also the type of person who thinks they're having 'fun' when they complete their daily challenges
>>747562090>You invented a caricature of the playerbase completely divorced from reality.I wish it was an invention
>>747562031Yes. It's a complete reboot, separate from retail's storyline.
>>747562101>who thinks they're having 'fun'Lmao people like you are so pathetic. As if you can tell when people are having real fun or not.
>>747560248You're right but it worked for turtle, it will work for blizzard too. Maybe people will approach the game differently when the game isn't focused on the endgame
>>747562082warcraft 3 is pretty fun, its worth
>>747562156turtle was free with 10x more the content you disingenuous shitbag
>>747562149nta but I can tell when low IQ people are having fun, and why they're too stupid to think otherwise.
>>747560325You are, this is spiritual death
>>747562101If I think I am having, then I am having fun. It's that shrimple, nigger.
>>747562031>separate story taking place during vanilla>hyjal in vanilla existed but had no mobs and couldn't be accessed, probably cause they didn't finish its development, so now they're adding it from the getgo>dalaran was always under construction in vanilla so vanilla+ was usually aiming to get rid of the barrier sooner or laterdon't be confused though, they're still gonna make it gay as hell
>>747562149So yes. You don't even understand basic psychology and yet think you're not a retard
>>747561064you didn't get the fourth package? you fucked up.
>>747560821Are you a retarded mazed goy addicted to making the numbers bigger who will pay to make his character's attack deal 1005 instead of 1000 damage, or do you want your "character to get stronger" in a meaningful way such as getting more build options or more utility tools to choose between?
>>747562196I can tell you're a dumbass who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.
>>747562246its over not my heckin plastic chinkslop
>>747560248Almost 40 and never played a Blizzard game, never will.
>>747562195This has more content on release than turtle did after like 5 years kek. Turtle was also extremely niche, most people don't play private servers
>>747562234Explain the "basic psychology" here then.
>>747562251None of those make your character stronger unless the choices you unlock are strictly betterAlso shut the fuck up about builds when classic wow trees have no depth. If they wanted builds to be a thing they would have copied the ascension trees (which were copied from retail)
WOW is the Hey Slam Clap of gaming.
>>747562259I don't think it. I know it. Notice how you have to detract from the subject because you have no real counterpoint. Signalling that I have both won the argument and proven you a dunce.
blizzard drones aren't human
>>747560248The only people excited for MMOs these days are streamers looking for their infinite content.
>>747560618>betaBOUGHT>blue elvesLEVELED>blastHAD
>>747562149Lemme guess, blizzard sent you here in hopes of paying for your shitty college debt?
>>747560248>the you are here forever wowyeah makes sense considering wow hasn't been in a playable state for like 20 years already
>>747562364>Choices can only be "better" or "worse">Classic wow trees have no depth btw!You are simultaneously complaining about horizontal progression while denying that horizontal progression can exist
>>747560248>will be the ultimate "goyim test" of gamers in the 21th century.You didn't post GTA 6 though?
>>747562369WoW is for World of Wumao, which blizzdrones are, literally Wumao for the CCP aka blizzard.
>>747560685it's by blizz so it's automatically bad, have you not learned anything?
>>747562526Someone needs to draw this.It will drive them insane.
This shit simply looks worse than turtle
>>747560248They hated him for he told the truth
>>747560248>white gamerslollmaoMost of wows playerbase isn't even white, shit, large part of it aren't even real humans
>>747562458Arpgs have build depth and they are still all vertical progression, build depth has nothing to do with horizontal progressionThe fact that blizzard didnt even try to add build depth means things will be dead in 4 months like every other classic release
>>747560248>Made-up race created for chinks>"It's the white's fault" Since when old woke came back to life
Based OP
>>747560248Pictured: OPAbsolute king. Love it when I see someone put the intuitions everyone feels into words.
blizzard could never design something like og westfall, desolace or barrens.every designer has been "game design educated" to constantly add clutter everywhere to sell an illusion that there is a lot of interesting stuff, when in reality it makes the world less interesting.
>>747560248The only discussion worth having in this thread is debating the nuances between "truth nuke" and "nuclear truth"
>>747560248Is it Monday in India already? Why is the board full of so much shit already?
>>747562690After the showcase ascension did, dutch and shenna had the last laugh.>>747562810They all are browns playing on toasters because they only play wow, and no other games because their toasters cant run anything else.Which is true, because you will never see a blizzdrone playing other games, and they hate seeing people playing anything outside blizzslop, hence their rage towards bethesda and other companies.Pure Wumao shit.
>>747562251I want both.
>>747563138Well only browns and bot farming chinks n jeets plays wow nowadays.
>pay for a fucking inferior version of classic+ when compared to epoch or turtle>With a shitty fanfic sky elves race that belongs in retoilet slop like Shadowlands. >You also have to pay to play them lmao. >Also transmogs and undead paladins*vomits all over the floor* >With a worthless retail community of Western trannies, parse spergs who treat the game like a job and third world poors who actually play for a living botting and boosting >They will all report and minmax the fun out of the game within 4 weeks It's not too late to take the pserver pill. 2025/26 was rough because of niggers at Blizzard but you'd have to pay me to play their slop and interact with their Stockholm syndrome community
>>747562810Is this an American thing? Everyone I play with in Europe are either dutch or nordic. I've met a bunch of them irl and they're as white as white goes.
This is what the playerbase for WoW Forever will look like. Do these people look like goyim to you Chud?
>>747563043nothing about westfall or the barrens is interesting
>>747563418
>>747562570Blizzard games are always only bad until the expansion fixes them, like Monster Hunter. D2, trash until LoF fixed it.Warcraft 3, trash until Frozen Throne fixed it.WoW got fixed by BC, Diablo 3 by RoS, Diablo 4 by LoH, Classic by Season of Discovery.If you dislike a post-expansion Blizzard game, you have shit taste.
>>747563418yes.If a jewish woman represent now the thing I loved back then its safe to assume I'm being presented a chutzpah.
>>747563462
>>747563232the best retail players are also some of the top players in Path of Exiledunno about classic tho, thats favela monkey central
>>747560526BRILLEEYIN', PARDNURRR
>>747563502
>>747563476BC was still pretty badDPS specs got fixed by wrathhealers in Catatanks in MoP
>>747563379Yeah, pservers are ok I guess, but the best would be to play actually good games, abandon MMO slop and wow all together
>>747563563>BC was still pretty badTrue, but at least it was playable, unlike vanilla.
>>747563418>>747563462>>747563502>>747563556We need a based Chud from here to make a video on why it's shit. I'm too lazy for that
>>747563631Only mmos are good games. Single player games are slop.
>>747562347>This has more content on release than turtle did after like 5 years kekNot even remotely true you conniving nigger
>>747563418>>747563462>>747563502>>747563556People like this needs to be castrated
>>747563379>With a worthless retail community of Western trannies, parse spergs who treat the game like a job and third world poors who actually play for a living botting and boostingI've been saying this for years and classic proved it. The game isn't the major problem. It's the worthless Blizzard's community that's basically a containment zone to keep these subhumans away from the real thriving communities you see in places like private servers. There's no official version of WoW that's worth the pain of interacting with these mazed golems. They got the "no changes" classic and immediately proceeded to boost all the way to 60 through dungeon cleaves, they spent billions of dollars on botted gold and then spent that gold on obtaining mounts, professions and best in slot items through gdkp boosting groups. Then they gate kept anyone who didn't want to obey the meta. OP is actually right, the only humanoids who still play official WoW are white cattle addicted to the goynip, deserving a gas chamber to end their pathetic existence, and brown hordes who work in game earning pennies doing the boosting and gold botting.
>>747563476I heard this before, wumao.
>>747563401None of these people are white. You must have a brown mentality to waste your life on this garbage
>>747560248>twenty-firth
>>747563950>None of these people are whiteThe fuck do you know about the skin color of the people I've met irl that I played with for years? They are white. They have white skin, blue eyes, pale hair.
>>747563512>using another brownoid game that is PoE as baselineYou fucking blizzdrones cant help xheselvs.
>>747563771Yes it is, for the first 4-5 years turtle barely had anything new
>>747563771>1000 new quests>~10 new dungeons/raids>revamped professions>4 new zones>not more than turtleshit
>>747563994And yet they aren't white, they're Israeli golems who would be confused by the emotions evoked by pic related
>>747563401
I lost interest when they didn't once bring up add-ons. This was the perfect opportunity to finally get rid of this cancer and wipe all add-on support from the game and put some effort into making the original game UI more functional and designing new raid encounters without DBM in mind. But alas, it will be more of the exact same shit that ruined endgame in WoW all those years ago.
>>747564050>doesnt count because that hurts my narrative :(PoE is a white autist game
>>747562824>Blizzard's shitty loot grinders have no qualitative choices and so qualitative choices can not existPlay more videogames
>this is what twow died forhahahahahaha
>>747564192>Most people are X (no evidence to back it up)>That's not my experience, I find that most people are actually Y>Umm, you don't understand statistics, do you?retard
>>747560248playing WoW or giving money to Blizzard in any form already makes you retarded goy
>>747563960
>>747564345Only poor brownoids would defend the chinkslop that is PoE, which is all of blizzard fanboys.
it is going to be the same retard cycle as every few years, streamers are going to hype the shit out of WoW Forever->play the same basic shit that everyone is playing because everything has been datamined and optimized for weeks->after 2-4 weeks they will realize that numbers are crashing and that they will not be the new "asmongold"->coping for 1-2 weeks "blizzard will fix this"->join the wave of shitposting against blizzard in an last ditch effort to become a rightwing streamer
guys, all the youtube men who got paid by blizzard said the game will "cook," but everyone else on the internet says it looks terrible. i don't know who to believe
>>747564592The only real criticism I've heard is about the blue elves. Everything else is almost universal praise.Except here, because you are all jaded cunts who can't enjoy anything, of course
>>747564517it was made by a sperg in new zealandit is a white mans game, which is why (you) hate it
>>747560248"le classic" is retoilet>pay monthly fee to play retoilet and retoilet: vanilla flavor>funserver FOMO hijinks>inaccurate, censored implementation using a hacked together late era client version>made-up freakshit OC elf DLC races>cash shop garbage and ebaying on top of the retoilet monthly fee>unwanted content and balance changes by nublizzard"le classic" is retoilet
>>747564592I have 3 friends who still interact with Blizzard and their games to some extend. The guy who only plays W3 didn't give a fuck about any of it and won't play classic+ but was happy about the shadow release of the new DLC until he found out they're charging him for an expansion to a 25 years old game. The guy who only plays private servers and most recently the now gone Conquest of Azeorth hates the forever slop with living passion, especially how lazy it is compared to something like CoA and how gay the new Skyborne look. The third guy who still plays Hearthstone and casual retail doesn't care either because he actually likes all the QoL improvements on retoilet.
>>747564681Blizzard isnt paying for your college debt anymore, brownie.>>747564730>kiwis>whiteThe bug wumao reveals itself.
>>747564681It's basically a new WoW expansion repackaged as something else. Only the dumbest goy would fall for it. This is nothing like classic, it's just another branch of retail
>>747564681>except here, where moderators dont delete and ban you for saying something about about the woke chungusescurious
>>747564114>>747564052Retarded blizzcattle can't use the internet:>1500+ new quests>10 fully custom new dungeons>11 new zones>4 new raids>2 new races >8 new race/class combinations>2 new proffessionsBetter hurry up and pay for your beta access™ you dumbfuck shills
The biggest WoW competitor is still Classic WoW. Why can't Blizzard make WoW like this anymore? Is it lost tech or something?
>>747564874Fucking ascension, shitpoch and turdle put pure and more effort than them.Incredible how holly longdale continues fooling idiots since Everquest 2.
>>747560248I haven’t played wow in 15 years and never played classic but this has me feeling like a goy
>>747564874Yeah that's at the time it shut down. Took almost 8 years for them to add all that shit
>>747565163I should think it would take them way less if they were a billion dolla company backed by a trillion dollar company.
>>747565163Yeah and Blizzard has x1000000 the resources and money than some random faggots in their basements.
>>747564874All done on a shitty, ancient 2004 client with a custom hacked together backend server btw. Blizzard troon devs could never.
Here's your "classic+" xirsters...
>>747561443That's exactly what blizzard kikes were thinking when closing turtle and ascension.
I don't like that they included that talent to make rejuv + wild growth gcd 1 second
>>747565268>>747565270Damn people already have rose tinted goggles for fucking turtle. Sure it had some good ideas but in no way was it perfect. It remains to be seen which I've is better, but Blizzard version will certainly be more criticized since people already look at turtle and remember only the good things
>>747560248i'm gonna stick to retail.
>>747560248They shat the bed imnediately with those retarded sky elves
People talk shit about the bluesky elves but everyone will be playing them come release
>>747560698300k a year for me
>>747560248WoW is GodWoW is KingWoW is Forever
>>747565403i can already see the bouncy animation just from this single frame
>>747565465Turtle wasn't perfect but at times the new content was super well executed, other times yeah not so much. But at least it felt honest about what it was, and aside from the few time-saving donations ingame (portable bank, AH, mounts etc) it didn't ask for any money out of you. This by itself sets a very high standard for blizzard, which they already seem to be fumbling.
>>747565403>even the UI is devoid of soulGrim.
>>747565465It wasn't perfect, not even close, it had some crappy stuff too, their best work happened in the last few years. The point is that Blizzard should be held to a way higher standard than some private servers.
>>747565554i wonder if they will have busted racials so they are the best in pve/pvp.
>>747561332Okay. fuck off to regular classic then.
Anybody who has ever played WoW or MMOs in general, or fucking Blizzard games in general is already der uber goyim.
>>747561738>And retail is 50x more popular than classicsource?
>>747566053Racials were already revealed, troonelves pretty much have the worst racials. Slowfall on a CD, 5% more damage to elementals and 1% haste. Gnome and Human are looking sorta busted.
gonna be real here, I am not hyped, but I might just play a Huntard and level to 60 again just grinding mobs, the comfort of just braindead shooting mobs to death as beastmaster and selling shit on the auction house was actual fun, but I need a fresh server so cucks will buy my shit
>>747566053We've seen their racials, it's 1% haste, slow fall(god tier in arathi basin), 5% damage to elementals(this will probably be BiS in raids, it's secretly their best one). Then there's an alliance/horde specific racial for them. Horde gains 10% movement speed on a cooldown, Alliance gains 100% increased mana/health regen.
Does beta progress reset or will you be able to keep it? Might splurge for the deluxe for it if so
>>747566270>Alliance gains 100% increased mana/health regen.this sounds really good for a healer in pvp.
Their entire announcement script was written by AI, so I'm going to assume the same applies to other aspects of their products. I'm not anti AI, but some human input is still needed because it just isn't good enough yet.If I had to guess, 90% of those 1,000+ quests are probably filler or slight variations of "collect 10 boar meat" and "kill 15 wolves." I don't care much for raiding either, since it's always been a snoozefest with 40 people, especially if the whole thing is going to be designed by AI.I hate to sound like a doomer, but that's just the reality of nu-Blizzard.
yaaas it's gonna be just like it was back in 2005we're going home xisters... this time for real...
>>747566270>5% damage to elementals(this will probably be BiS in raids, it's secretly their best one)molten core is like all elementals so lol
>>747566430why is my forever home so gay and soulless?
>>747566378>If I had to guess, 90% of those 1,000+ quests are probably filler or slight variations of "collect 10 boar meat" and "kill 15 wolves."Anon that's how vanilla was.The memorable shit is memorable because it wasn't that.What matters is the story being told while going to a random location to click on a random item to take to a random npc.Considering the existence of sky elves, I don't have high hopes for the forever lore.
>>747565554Depends on how sexo I can make the female. I don't like the specific shade of blue they've shown so I hope I can make it look better
>>747566496It was built for maximum shareholder value from the ground up
>>747560248>We're tripling down on racials. We're going to make them really strong and really matter>Also here is a new race, $30
How about: no more iLvl increases. Players should actually think about optimizing stats, learning their class and choosing the correct set bonuses.
>>747566270What if this new race becomes meta? Am I really going to have to spend $30 just to get accepted into raids?
>>747566786>No level increases>No Ilvl increasesSo no MMO at all. What would be the point of doing raids if you don't get stronger?
How has the right become so flanderized to the point that the success of a children's toy determines the fate of the western world. What happened to guys who cared about the deficit and actual issues?
>>747566830isnt the whole point of classic that you can be an absolute retard that just presses 1 button and do alright ?
>>747566830Unless everything else is complete dogshit, you have never been forced to be meta race to get a spot in a raid.Having a good class yes maybe. But race? No, this was never a thing.
>>747566909Yes, playing classic is piss easy. The only part that matters is pre-raid stuff (flasks, world buffs, enchants etc). Only geriatric retards still spin the myth that vanilla was le hardcore
>>747566909>isnt the whole point of classic that you can be an absolute retard that just presses 1 button and do alright ?Where did you get that idea? The whole point is to min-max and speedrun every raid
>>747565972It's modern blizzard, bro. The fact that it's not total shit so far is already impressive
>>747567019well i mean frost mages "rotation" is just one button.
You should start calling goyim out instead of, say, doing nothing.
>>747566430All they had to do was make the dwarf be inspecting a piece of ore and the bear to not act like a heckin cute pupper.It's shockingly disappointing how easily every single thing /v/ complains about could be fixed by someone who watched the original trailer.>battle damage after the undead fight>swap to the night elf for the wisp bit>have the night elf be injured from the fight in vanilla>swap to the orc pursuing the night elf>have the undead pally be rezzed by the tauren>the tauren's armor is beat up from the vanilla fight>have them all meet at hyjal>have them fight again>with no cutaways>just a slow pan upwards>beauty of hyjal serving as a backdrop for the warring of mortal races>contrast the races' cooperation in wc3 with the warring of wow>have a goblin and/or ogre or whatever join the horde group>have a high elf and the human mage join the alliance group>fighting gets intense>title dropI'm sure other anons could do a better job, but it is simply too easy to understand the tone of the original game if you gave a shit.
>>747566430>"we're putting the "war" in warcraft btw This is just capitalism's natural course in the end, they want to appel to the broader audience. I think retail tries to do that but ultimately fails due to all the slop systems/dailies/delves shit, addons and way way overtuned late game. Wow Forever will both have the friendly retail slop aesthetics AND vanilla's accessibilty and simplified gameplay. It will be the perfect cashcow that retail couldn't be and that's why they're so involved in it.
>>747561165moo for me, goy.
>>747566958>But race? No, this was never a thing.Not true if you were in a serious raiding guild. Human and orc warriors were preferred over other races because their +5 weapon skill
>>747560685>Old bad>New bad>Everything bad
>>747567295I was in a serious guild with multiple parses in the 100s. We had no such requirement. Players often picked orc over other races because of the +5 weapon skill, but that was their own choice. You are talking shit just to have something to be upset about.
Ehhh its not really classic. Not with all the QoL, UI changes, no doubt massive buffs (just look at the racials) that trivialize the open world.
>>747563476>Warcraft 3, trash until Frozen Throne fixed it. These shills got some fucking chutzpah, I'll give them that.
>>747566958>implying anyone ever took a nelf priest over a dwarf priestUnless the player was better, a friend, or had better gear the race absolutely mattered.
>>747560248>'Forever' are essentially just glorified WoW Classic Era realms, but with more dungeons and more raids once every 6 months.This is literally what everyone has been asking for when it comes to classic plus. OP is a fucking faggot.
>>747567486Yes that is exactly what I am implying.
>>747566430blizzard animations are so faggy nowadays, even the starcraft animation was gay. Diablo 5 one was all right doe (funny how they shat the bad so bad againist poe2 that they just had to start again from scratch)
>>747567168>if you gave a shit.And here lies the crux of it all lol
Is there a database that shows every version of gear? I want to find a better looking Lionheart helm since we can be trannies now.
>>747566958>But race? No, this was never a thing.at high end raiding, entire guilds swapped to horde for the 5% damage to beasts during throne of thunder and they all went troll. if people want world firsts, they stack what deals the most damage. in the revamped molten core next summer, 5% damage vs elementals will lead to world firsts. watch blizzard sell a new race after that which deals 5% more damage to dragons for bwl. .
Unironically it will die. >No new classes at launch>No new race, just blue blood elf paid DLC>No new world to explore, same world people have played 10, 20, 50, or hundreds of times over>No new gameplay experience, same old thing people are objectively tired of - see classic era and hardcore classic realm populationsModified zones and chopped new dungeons and raids are not enough to keep people interested. Private servers won this war and it will take Blizzard a decade to catch up to what people have already experienced.
>>747567391I just don't believe you. If you were top parsing, you'd at least know that the speedrunning guilds were stacking exclusively human/orc warriors
>>747564681>The only real criticism I've heard is about the blue elves. Everything else is almost universal praise.Universal praise for WHAT? As far as I've heard the only things they've revealed are a cinematic teaser, blue tinted elves and a bullet list of whatever content. There's no relevant information about what they'll actually do with the game beyond relaunching vanilla AGAIN and then making another zone or two at level 60. People praising that are just the same clowns who would pay for vanilla for all eternity
>>747566430>>747566496>>747567610hearthstone broke blizzard's art direction. it was such a massive success with normies they will never have a gritty, edgy art direction ever again, only disney shit like hearthstone
>>747560248i'm buyankeep seethin
>>747561029His parents were catholic.
>>747563418>>747563462>>747563502>>747563556WE DIDN'T GET PLAYABLE HIGH ELVES/BLOOD ELVES AND PLAYABLE OGRES BECAUSE THE PRODUCTION BUDGET WAS SPENT ON THESE FAGGOT GRIFTERS TO MAKE A SHITTY SHILL VIDEO
>>747563418>>747563502>>747563556why are white people like this?
>>747567815>No new classes at launch>No new race, just blue blood elf paid DLC>No new world to explore, same world people have played 10, 20, 50, or hundreds of times over>No new gameplay experience, same old thing people are objectively tired of - see classic era and hardcore classic realm populationsTurtle was EXACTLY like this except for the goblins (high elf was also a color swapped blood elf), yet people played it for years.I think you just don't want classic+, you want retail-
Justify the 30$ pricetag on ACTUAL CONTENT. Fucking blizzgoyim there is no justification for locking "CLASSIC" content behind a 30$ paywall.
Will Shaman tank be in?
>>747567506>This is literally what everyone has been asking for when it comes to classic plusIf you look at anything they presented and thought this is what people asked for you're sub 90 IQ
>imagine letting jews dictate your funLmoa anon
>>747568192>Turtle WoW made high elvesThank you, you proved my point. I'm a reddit mod.
>>747568192Maybe that's because Turtle was free and made by a small team of volunteers, you imbecilic shill. FYI the new content in Forever literally looks worse than anything Turtle shat out
>>747560325His wife's bull will
Blizzdrones scare me. How can you live in a perpetual state of false hope and promises for like 20+ years? I genuinely cannot wrap my head around it
>>747561884>no loading screensI have some bad news for you anon
>>747568416>loot before hoes Lmao you've never played WoW. Hoes alway get loot before you
>>747568293ive paid 60 for beta access :)
>>747560248Crazy to me 4chan still talks about WOW this much. No one out int he world gives two shits anymore.
>>747568502Moving the goalposts, but whatever.
>>747568536Thank you for your sacrifice.
>>747560445Fun is a buzzword.
>>747568416that image lacks soul
I just buyed the 150$ CE because I wanted to play warcraft 3 + Forever. I will be making a blue elf druid and I will keep PVP on so whenever I do kill someone who is low HP fighting mobs they will know that a proud bluegger justed iced their ass.
can't wait to get my classic + wheelchair mount
This discussion is pointless because Classic population is just pure cancer goldsellers and boosters, with barely anyone actually playing the game or talking. Most people played private servers not because Classic itself was shit, it was because its community is garbage.
>>747568416That's right, we should all just consoom without questioning anything.
>>747568561Nope
>>747568536so you gonna play the beta of an 20 year old game, that you are going to play again in 2 months anyway ?
All I see is brokies complaining
Thread made by an indian
We're finally coming back home*buys 12 month subscription plan for a Thrall mount*This will be the game for our generation*buys lvl 60 boost*It will be just like the old times*makes a Blood Void Elf with blue skin and makes a druid, first ever for blood elves*My nostalgia and begging blizzard for classic+ pays off*invites a Orc Mage healer to his dungeon, Dalaran in classic*We're finally home just like I remember it*shits self*
You know at the end of LOTR when Frodo leaves in that boat to wherever, the afterlife or something? The mood and atmosphere of that scene? That's how the announcement of WoW Forever felt, like the millennial's peaceful retreat into the eternal land, like they're being put to rest. I dunno, you feel me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0J0_VUzNY0Ever watch old warcraft vids only to realize these guys were shit?
>>747568768You forgot that he paid to playtest it too, Blizzard raised some good goyim.
>>747568768I bought the 75 euro version to play beta. Because the 1-30 human starter zone is peak gaming desu
>>747560376How can people who spend all day doomscrolling rightoid slop possibly have so little self-awareness to accuse others of enjoying bread and circuses? What do you think the Trump circus is?
>>747567506>This is literally what everyone has been asking for when it comes to classic plus.I love the revisionism. No, this is not what people have been asking for. You're just coping.
>>747568751>original claim:>forever will die because *list of things turtle also did*>my reply:>turtle was pretty much this and didn't die though>b... but f2p! but blizzard is shit!As i said, moving the goalposts.
>>747569046>What do you think the Trump circus is?For what it's worth, I think Trump should be shot, because he's a traitor.
>>747567506Yep I am pretty happy with just about every single addition they are doing except for the blue elves. They really should have given helves to alliance and ogres to horde.
>>747568979but are you at least going to keep beta progress, also tell me if there are any changes to leveling, I just want to huntard grind again, it would be less fun if other classes are not cucked for the first 40 levels
>>747561862I can't help it
You're right but that actually started after Wrath.
What does more damage, a Reckoning Paladin or a Windfury Shaman? I like pvping
>>747569182There is no way they will let you keep beta progress. People would shit their diapers
>>747560248I might consider playing it if it were free to play and had anime waifus to pull.
>>747560248I was 100% ready to go full slop mode and play this again until I found out they are charging $30 to play as blue blood elves
>>747569178they need a pretty race for female and tranny horde players, blood elf is the most played horde race by far. ogres would be sick but they're too male coded.
>>747569262You are gonna wanna play ELE Sham because their talents look stronk. >https://forevertalents.up.railway.app
Blizzard still has no idea what made vanilla WoW so good.It wasn't the quests, raids, story, or even the community. It was the sense of discovery. When you spawned in, all you had was a sword and a map. That's it. No addons, no guides, none of that bullshit. You were just thrown into the world and left to explore it for yourself.Judging by the Warcraft Forever showcase, they still don't understand how important that was. Unless they're willing to heavily restrict addons and bring back that isolated, unknown feeling, they're never going to recapture what made vanilla special.
>>747569368Can you do an Ele/Enhance build? I want to bonk people and oneshot them
>>747568613sneed
>>747569329They made blueberries both factions, why couldn't they have done alliance high elfs and horde blood elves and still give horde ogres, easiest layup possible and they dropped the ball
>>747562850>>747563004>>747563108thank youbased(i am a marketing consultant and ever since i got into this field it's impossible to unsee the marketing of blizzard, it's more than just "nice trailers", it's also the choice of words, music, what they choose to reveal, when, how, everything).
>>747569329It is annoying and idk who these people are that absolutely have to play a barbie that play on horde. I remember rolling horde because it had the cool monsters on it. Retail sucks because they basically removed that with all the barbies they keep adding
>>747568946sometimes I watch my own old vanilla vids and remember that I was shit too, but at least I wasn't being shit to a soundtrack by Drowning Pool
>>747569262Both are fine but Paladin should come out on two between the two. It all comes down to skill vs most classes. A good mage will stomp everyone except maybe warlock.
>>747560248Blizzard fans will always eat up whatever Blizzard shits up on their plate.
>>747569435Check out the calculator, but probably yeah. They have some really powerful talents that combo well together for a ele/ench build. Some of the talent combos basically reducing mana costs for shocks in half or to zero if you have the procs and increases your melee crit against targets you've casted on recently.
>>747569392>bring back that isolated, unknown feelingHow the fuck do you picture them doing it without making an entire new game from the ground up, doofus?Not to mention that even if they restrict data mining somehow, player-run wikis are going to be up online in like a week max.
>>747569567i truly believe that they simply wanted to sell horde elves so they have a pretty race and this is the best way to go about doing that with less outcry. it makes it less obvious that it's mainly for horde if alliance can buy it too and there's no way people would tolerate paying $30 for blood elves directly.they could have simply gave horde blood elves and alliance draenei for free instead of selling a race that's a blood elf and blue like a draenei. imo this is the ultimate red flag concerning wow forever.
>>747568946Holy kino
>>747569828windfury isn't a "totem" when you're a shaman running around in Wpvp, right? it's something you put on your weapon?
>>747569392>Unless they're willing to heavily restrict addons and bring back that isolated, unknown feelingBut addons are opt-in. And how do you restrict people going on wikis? Blizzard can't do shit about that, players inflict that upon themselves. Most they can do is not have objective markers and it's not the case from what we've seen.
>>747569972For shaman it is just a weapon imbue, only nonshams need the totem
>>747569972it also swings an extra time for shaman's
>>747569823Blizzard haters will shit on blizzard whatever they do and say.
If I play this should I roll horde or alliance? I've heard that nowadays horde is mostly browns and alliance is mostly troons.
>>747570187Alliance has more annoying fat women trying to get into guilds
>>747560248>'Forever' are essentially just glorified WoW Classic Era realms, but with more dungeons and more raids once every 6 months.But this is exactly what people wanted.
Caring about a game that's at least a decade past its best by date it's what marks you as a pathetic lifeless boomer.Even knowing about whatever retarded news this is makes you unfit for procreation.Kill yourself.
>>747560248Keep in mind you're on 4chan /v/, calling people goyims because they're playing a new version of WoW that will go under the same wow subscription as everything else. I know they took down your favorite private server anon, but that's just how it is
>>747570187horde if youre on a pvp server alliance if youre on a pve serverthat being said, don't play it
>>747570346>yum modern dogshit gameslol
so I am confused is wow forever free now when I own the original ? do I just have to pay 29.99 for shitty elves ?
>>747560248>you are truly the lowest form of life on this planetDon't care, still playing, simple as, pic related
Fuuuuuck Shamans look so coolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaAmHAHfytU
>combo points are tied to your character and not the enemyYep, it's retail- alright.
>>747560248>"Guys, I think people who like remakes are dumb.">"Hey grok, can you make this sound 10x more dramatic? Also please blame the jews for my life's problems again."A D5 bad thread died for this.
People claim the want classic+ but will install every modern addon they can to play the game for them. Turning it into retail.
i hated the boomers who talked down my generation for being retarded failures, but looking back on it now it's completely truei quit playing wow 15 years ago. i didn't like it, i had enough, and i didn't want to spend money on that anymore. i would genuinely kill myself before i ever game a dime to blizzard again.but today, i know people who still play it. they hate it, they hate what wow became and hate blizzard, yet they still open their wallets, they are still addicts, and they are still failures in lifeputs some serious dread in me. we need to educate the new generations better, beat them more or something
>>747570558you are finding anything to complain about no one liked losing all their points because they clicked off a mob
>>747570507Correct. New elves are the only paid element
>>747566203its retoilet you just spam dungeon finder
>>747570346seethe
>>747570187go horde for orc warrior and troll warlockits nuts plus alliance is the onions faction anyway
>>747568946MMOs are very casual games. The biggest issue with modern WoW is trying to appeal to twitch streamer e sports bros and having way too many abilites for normal people to comprehend.
What's this gay first name last name bullshit? what's the point? do you see people's entire names now?
>>747570813when the retoiletroons start defending foreverslop you just know you're not the target audience
>>747567815they had people hooked in SoD and all they did was reskin a dungeon every 3 months
>>747570847Sounds like you trannies are the ones butthurt by whatever this is.You will forever be a faggot loser by the w.
>>747570813You're not thinking about the implications involved for PvP, that single change is a massive difference in how rogues play and it's one of the biggest buffs the class could have received. Rogues can now drop a 5 point kidney on you without even touching you like in arenas on retail.
>>747571031projection
>>747560248Of course. People who pay for Blizzard shit are nostalgia-addled fools
>>747570038There's an option to toggle objective markers on and off
>>747570986You don't need to set a last name, you can toggle the visibility of other player's last names off, and the first name is your "main name" that will appear in raid frames and whateverIt's been a long requested feature by the RP community but if you don't care it'll never affect you
>>747571008sod was a wet fart and a flop thoughever
>>747571068no skin off my bones with my superior human stun cleanse.
>>747570847cool argument
>>747571068And it's the only sensible way to develop the class, because a class which cannot switch targets in an incredibly simple game where target selection is one of the only real elements of agency a player has is retarded
this is a good change
Kill rep grinds and spending 20g on consumables per raid and I'll be happyI'll probably drop it 1week after dinging 60
>>747571242stick to retoilet lil fella
>>747569392I havent played wow since tbc but this is the reason i loved it/quit. I dont want to quest with people using wuest addons. There are like 19 valleys that a friend and i wandered into and either got our asses kicked or got a blue. Maybe to sate myself i will try classic era or a pserver
>>747569920>How the fuck do you picture them doing it without making an entire new game from the ground up, doofus?They tried with SOD, but the second someone found something new it was posted online. You can't have any mystery with the way the internet is
>>747571272half the races in the game have this feature now btw
>>747570940ye true they they actually try to please 24/7 grinding, "pro" gamers, and worse is they are so scared of releasing something broken/unbalanced that you can beta test the whole shit months in advance, so these autists come in with a 3 month headstart, rush to max level within day 1, do all the dungeons and then complain that there is nothing to do, and those are the people blizz is trying to please....
Forever looks fuckin awesomeI'm thinking the people shitting on are just looking for a reason not to start up on a new server, which I get
>>747570752This user is going to play GTA6 in 2 months btw.
>>747560248>Goyim are badLiterally becoming Jewish. Goyim means nations.
>>747561135No it didn't, everyone was full t3+t2.5 in that fucking serverIf you don't understand why that's a bad thing you've never grouped as a fresh 60 with one
>>747571242I get why they're doing it, especially after watching the dungeons on stream where many bosses had a bunch of adds that spawn. But that's because they're changing the direction of classic so much that they need to ditch the per enemy combo points. Rogues got massively buffed, and you can tell they know this because the account wide achievement point unlocks have increased stealth detection in it and they let humans keep perception.
>>747571336I'm not sticking to anything because I quit this piece of shit game over a decade ago and if you had any sense you'd have done the same
>>747571272This racial alone is why undead warlocks are bis when leveling
>>747560248You could literally perform oral sex on George Santos and still not be as gay as what WoW has become
>>747566203b-but you saw the dwarf with the bear, anon, what your favorite WoW youtuber plays when talking about the game! Just like 10+ years ago! We cut the epic choir and made them whimsy and soft tho, but that doesn't mean you and the go- I mean guys cannot enjoy it!
>Classes and races are optional purchases, like expansion packs>New content like zones, raids and dungeons will be available for everyoneCan't wait for people to complain about this monetization, even though it's actually pretty good for the players. I wonder if people in 2007 would have complained if the Outland content was free but BElves and Draenei were behind a purchase
I see that night elves will be able to shadowmeld in combat but the wording is strange. It makes it sounds like it is a threat drop and not a combat drop.
>>747571450I wish the black death upon your whore mother saar
>>747567506>redditspacing>what everyone has been asking for>Skytrannies and RetailFuck off blizzshill
>>747571483whenever i quit a game i just move on and never look back. 10 years later you're still skulking around whining about a game you left
>>747563462>has to respec midungeon out of the new retribution 31 talent because they gutted seal twisting that badPaladins were like the number one requested class to fix and they still fucked it up
>>747570752dude the new generation is fapping to ticktock thots and youtube shorts because they are too scared of actual porn, do not get your hopes up gramps
>>747560925Truth nuker./v/ Said wardogs was bad then I played it and it was the most fun I ever had with a shooter. I firmly believe most posts on this website are designed to devalue western companies while promoting the real goy cattle games which are gacha slop. They spam propaganda 24/7 until something sticks and then spam that sticking point 24/7. The internet is dead and it's just faggot bots ruining fun things for other people.
>>747560248Kinda funny how I can immediately tell that you're a kissless virgin just from this post lol.
>>747571619If you don't want to see posts from people who aren't emotionally committed to your pet videogame then you should make a general instead of posting on /v/
>>747571472no, i will not. and you are a parasite failure yourself, you half man
I just want to be a brown orc like Garrosh
I have never played WoW past the free trial. 50/50 on playing this just to do a Troll Warlock.
>>747571552There is a subscription fee, this is not a f2p game. Having f2p monetization models on top of the subscription is bad. This complaint has been levied against retail for years. They most likely WILL still charge for expansions because it's Blizzard.
>>747566958Dwarf priests for fear ward
>>747560248based and truthpilled. But the real goyim test is GTA6 and we failed. Western gaming is over I welcome our Asian overlords.
Why do these faggots insist on level 60? Why do they think having LESS skill points makes it MORE fun???
>>747560325you are not reproducing, like all other white people
>>747571839I'm excited for both GTA and Forever but way more for GTA for sure
>>747571741so true sis, blizzard is the last bastion of western civilization
I don't give a shit about the doomposting. I just don't care much about Vanilla or about playing with the highest number of people possible, so I'm putting it off for now. If Forever is good, then me starting later won't matter. If it isn't then I'll have lost nothing.
>>747563447Unless you have good taste
Dwarflord is excited for WoW ForeverThat's all you need to know(if you don't know Dwarflord you're just a tourist secondary anyway)
>>747571741So true, sister. Make sure you preorder classic plus AND the premium edition of the next expac!
>>747571781I make in 1 year what you'll make in your whole life. Seriously, go kill yourself, you'll never reach manhood anyway.
>>747571810>They most likely WILL still charge for expansions because it's Blizzard.I find it HIGHLY unlikely that Forever will have paid expansions that lock "real" content behind a purchase. Instead of that, they will probably lock new classes and races behind purchases, but allow you to play your Human Warrior for just a sub until the end.I've already seen people say they'd rather see the entire game (including blue elves) locked behind 30 bucks than just the blue elves behind 30 bucks. It's pretty bizarre to me, but I suppose it's some psychological thing about exclusivity and fomo
>>747572050>saar i am rich brahmin ceo of microsoft i make more rupees than you entire vilalge you dalit
I do everything ecelebs say too
>>747571997no one knows you lil bro, buy an ad
will there be an wow forver hardcore server as an containment zone for all the shitty streamers ?
>>747572152theyre the only ones who have played Forever, so
>>747572050the halfling writhes as its called outkys parasite
>>747560904good or bad it's content for himhe said the blue elves look stupid and should be changed to just high elvesalso the name is dumb
>>747572141>but I suppose it's some psychological thing about exclusivity and fomoIt's probably about it being p2w because the 5% damage to elementals racial for $30 is now BiS for Molten Core. It's either Blizzard charges for expansions or after MC is over, they introduce a new race that deals 5% extra damage against Dragons for BWL's release and either sell race changes or the horizontal gearing will make it so that people will roll fresh alts so they can top meters on the brand new race. If you're paying less but are at a disadvantage over paying players, that feels bad psychologically. People dislike "p2w" games because of that and that design you're talking about does turn WoW into a p2w game when parsing and damage meters are a big part of the game to raiders.
Looks like fun, imagine being a sour nigger and unable to have fun with things lol
>>747560904what the fuck is this guy up to now anyway? does he even still play games ? the only thing I see of him over the last 5+ years are youtube clips of him reacting to politics
wow players are actual subhumans man I'm horrified by how low IQ mouthbreather they are. I tried classic when it was a thing and just talking to one of those "real fans" makes my skin crawl. You are actually meeting the dumbest of subhuman scum in that game. People who barely even speak their own language. They sound like retards but are too stupid to actually claim the legal status for it. I don't ever want to have to do anything with these subhumans ever again. I even ghosted my buddy for whom I was willing to try it out forever. It all made sense. I realized there is no point in wasting time on people like him or them. These are real goys. Mazed fucking idiots who will NEVER do anything with their lives other than drag everyone around them down.
>>747562226that's the problem, this isn't a new vanilla made by old vanilla devs, it's being made by new trooncircus blizzard
>>747560248Ill be there on day 1.
>>747560248Thanks, chatGPT
i wish i could buy beta access without buying the elves fuck you blizzard
>a week after launch
>>747572412Blood Elf racials were pretty OP in TBC, and Draenei hit aura was insane too. DK's were OP as fuck at the start of WotLK. Would the playerbase see free TBC and BElf/Draenei locked behind a purchase more negatively than the entirety of TBC locked behind a paywall? Or free WotLK content and paid DK class vs entirety of WotLK paywalled?I think the race/class being an optional purchase compared to a mandatory expansion actually makes people more dissatisfied even though it is better for the player from a purely objective point of view
>>747566830Don't group with metaretards.
>>747560248you have made 0 argument
>>747572152imagine looking at this and having to pretend you love it since your entire audience is captured wowcattle
The shitty part for me is looks like they aren't touching any old dungeons at all its going to feel like crazy whiplash in quality going between the new and old dungeons.It looks like they are planning to revamp old raids though i just don't see how the game will stay interesting at all long term with "horizontal" progression. Also the prestige system looks like retail dogshit they should have just put in turtle wow leveling challenges with cosmetic rewards.
>>747570816There are not even summoning stones at dungeons, only a portal you walk trough.
>>7475728205% damage to [x] when an entire raid is mostly [x] is by far the best racial in the game. That is the ENTIRE reason why the Alliance PvE scene died, almost all the high end PvE guilds went Horde during MoP because troll's berserking and 5% damage against beasts was broken in Throne of Thunder. That's why both Dwarves and Trolls now have 5% damage to beasts to prevent that kinda shit and the 5% elemental damage is on a neutral race, it's for the sake of faction balance. >I think the race/class being an optional purchase compared to a mandatory expansion actually makes people more dissatisfied even though it is better for the player from a purely objective point of viewI agree with this 100%. It feels worse to have to buy something optional to compete rather than buying in to something mandatory with everyone else. Not having the option to be the overpowered [x] feels bad, because it makes the game feel like mobile p2w trash.
I knew that bl*zzard's vanilla+ would just be retoilet- and the only way they'd leverage anybody to join is through terrorism aka closing private servers but that faggot blue elf on both factions is truly a new low.Enjoy your trooncraft I guess.
>>747560376>thrice-taxed???Local, state, and federal?
>>747573076>Don't group with metaretards.I'd rather just not play the game at all. I'm old enough to see where this is going, and the philosophy behind the game design seems to be extracting money from retards rather than providing an enjoyable experience.
>>747566430>Only the part with the undead paladin felt like WarcraftI almost feel like this was intentional manipulation to get people to accept undead paladins.Also, it's nice to know that Blizzard actually IS capable of creating things that feels like Warcraft and are apparently deliberately choosing not to.
>>747560248You say so, faggot
>>747573782>the callback to the original wow cinematic with the forsaken warlock's foot scorching the earth but this time it's the paladin's foot consecrating the groundk i n o
retail- is just bait to get people into playing retailafter you experience how the "modern" dev team writes the 1000 new quests, and the shitty retail UI, and the shitty retail HD textures why not just play retail at that point? it's basically the same game!
>>747573782have to keep the DEIs distracted with new furniture in midnight
>>747560248this is the most faggot OP post of all time.>There is absolutely nothing to indicate that any of their "promises" (the word promise here is used in the context of marketing language) are true. None of the game mechanics that would need to be overhauled in order to result in a WoW that favors horizontal progression over vertical progression - has actually been overhauled in that way.elaborate as to what those changes are.
>>747560248the horizontal part is going to be achievements, the account wide talent tree thing, collectathon shit, pet collecting, mount collecting, transmog collecting, greatly expanded professions (they had a lot of questions about professions in the survey they sent out a few months ago), storyline shit you do even though it doesn't give you appreciable item rewards, etc
>>747562226>gay as hellu finna vibe with that frfr
the real goy test was in 2007 and you failed it, OP
You ever ask yourself "why the fuck is this a thing"?>500g in arcanite bars alone
>>747574484Arcanite bars go for 100-200g each when the rush happens at start, it doesn't start to go down until after AQ
>>747560248Thankfully there's other slop grabbing my attention at that time. I don't know why they're trying to do this in November, that's insane. I'll be on Zelda and GTA VI for that entire month, most likely.
>>747574767because they're dumb. they'd have been better off launching it in january against the xiv expansion than fucking gta 6.
>>747571482What disapointed me about the announcement was that there were no emphasis on CC with dungeon and raid encounter designs. You shouldn't be able to steam roll mob packs unless you are in full group raid epics. Just add a shit ton of patrols, CC on the enemy side and up the damage and you'll actually have to play the game and strategize with your group...
>>747574659but who would ever see this mace and take the time to get these mats for it, doesn't seem worth it at all.
>fury warrior talents are almost perfect copies from turtlewowit was SHIT on turtle and its SHIT hereholy fuck lmao
>>747575024Arcanite bars go crazy high at start once people start getting their Thunderfurry quest, I think you need 100 arcanite bars for it. There will be new recipes in Forever I am sure that make arcanite bars even more required, maybe those new belt buckles or something
>>747561443>just let people enjoy things sheeshthis cucked mentality allows for endless enshittification of everything
>>747560314Two truthnukes weren't enough
>>747573782This class/race combo is the ultimate Cuck fantasy. Everyone who will play it will be despised and probably /spit upon. Let me explain:>Imagine being a heroic human paladin serving Light, Lordaeron and Alliance as a whole.>You are getting slained trying to protect your homeland and people you've loved.>After some time you are getting resurrected as an Undead, but can still use your Holy powers.>Instead of continue to fight these known to you invaders, you join them.>You start to embrace their tribalistic "Culture". Begin to live in disgusting mudhuts, bow to your new orc leaders.>You enjoy being a cuck so much, that you decorate your Holy armor, shield and even your sacred book with the symbol of the demon-possesed beasts that desecrated your kingdom.>You fight your old allies as a fresh Horde mind-broken drone.>Also, imagine a noble holy warrior using canibalize, lmao.Bravo Activision-Microsoft-Blizzard. Bravo
>>747571242What about removing energy cost from finishers so rogues can always slice and dice or eviscerate/rupture if they're forced to change targets.ofc you would need to slow energy gain or increase energy costs to compensate
>>747575559>and probably /spit uponnuh uh, banned emote :)
>>747574973You're expecting a level38 dungeons to demand CC?what's wrong with you?
Idk /v/ I might sub for the first month, because classic 2019 was legit great fun at the start, before everyone hit 60. At the same time, none of the new changes make me basedface, the only reason would be to play in a populated server. Are there any high pop classic private servers?
>>747575802Just zoning out and pressing buttons to AoE mow down everything on a conveyor belt is tedious as fuck at any level. When the only challenge is out healing the damage and gear checks, are you even playing a game at that point. Sure ramp it up with level ranges but at 40 most people have spent tens of hours on their character and should have some expectations to meet.
>>747562403This. Like most other shit-eating consumer cults out there just register them as cattle not worth interacting with and move on.
>>747560248World of war craft is a tranny game. Stop supporting tranny games.
>>747560248Shut up moron. Let people enjoy the games they want to play.
>>747576537Don't worry, not all classes have good AoE so most groups will be cleaving.Playing with your brain turn off can still clear trash but using interrupts and stuns smartly had always made a huge difference in your healer mana.
>>747569615you sound like a professional retard that just wants to be mad
>>747575559You can't spit on people on classic, but "nobody cares", right?
>>747560445Skinner boxes are fake fun.
>>747575559whitemane is so cutei wish i could make my character look like her and make pathetic boys beg for my healing
>>747570526>pic relatedgnome fury warrior?
>>747574192Completely overhauled leveling paceCompletely overhauled itemizationCompletely overhauled character progressionCompletely overhauled content pacingWithout any of that, you can't have a "forever horizontal progression" MMO. WoW is, at its core and in its bones, a themepark MMO. And as long as those fundamentals remain, it cna never be anything but a themepark MMO.Blizzard's marketing is extremely sophisticated, and they're tricking you into thinking you'll get an OSRS-like experience with Forever. When in truth what you're getting are Classic Era servers 2.0.
>still gotta do raidslemme play as a solo guy and have my story and adventureholy fUCK
>>747560248OP is a disgusting filthy big nose Jew. Everything he says or does is inherently untrustworthy and serving some horrible agenda.
>>747571849we should be level 60, but have 90 skill points!! that would be hella BASED
>>747576881Well, yes, I do get mad when I see things that makes me mad. And because I have the ability to post about it on /v/, I choose to do so.
Even AI can come up with something way better than gay blue elves. What the fuck is Blizzard doing?
I almost bought the $80 upgrade to get Warcraft 3 expansion and the new race yesterday but thankfully I slept on it and woke up with a clear head
>>747572756you sound like a cheap jew. i guess you passed the goyim test though?
>>747560526You don't know what you are even posting anymore. You're just saying this shit because you think it will help you fit in.
>>747571772I've fucked more anorexic blonde teens in one month than you will your entire life.
>>747577671what makes you madder? Warcraft Forever, or your tiny limp dick?
>>747571839True enough, I agree. GTA6 is already lost, WoW: Forever is another major test and it remains to be seen if consumers are going to continue Blizzdroning or not.
>>747560248I don't really get what the point of it is. It's just vanilla wow but with extra shit added to it so it's not even vanilla anymore?
>>747573557Government, Jews, Pedophile Elite.
>>747577826Warcraft Forever.
I’m genuinely baffled how you retards can't grasp how awful this is. >The UI looks exactly like modern retail >"new" spells are just bloated modern visual effects reused straight from retail>The Dalaran dungeon is a visual mess; modern retail textures and lighting do not mix with vanilla geometry at all. >The new elf race can be rolled on both factions, completely killing faction identity>They aren't even high elves>The battle.net shop already has deluxe pre-order editions lined up for day 1 >Literally just a retail-lite private server run poorlyForever dead.
>>747577538you just made up a bunch of imaginary shit just to be mad. > When in truth what you're getting are Classic Era servers 2.0.YUP! and that's a good thing!there are absolutely changes coming that will oblige horizontal progression. if you weren't too busy sperging out and actually listened to the presentations, you'd know that.
>>747560248>White gamersIs there any cis white hetero male left on WoW?
>>747577927it's vanilla but retail, they just needed a way to sell cosmetics and shit to it's classic audience because that's where most of the playbase is
>>747577927It's just a cash grab. The servers will be dead in 1 year, max 2 years. Blizzard will have made a bunch of money. They will have skillfully taekwondo'd the "we want classic+!" crowd forever. And they will just carry on as usual while all the Blizzdrones will be seething (they will buy the next expansion).
>>747578040>YUP! and that's a good thing!Really? Are you playing on Classic Era servers right now? How many people are playing Classic Era servers right now?There's a reason they are completely dead.You are a homosexual.
>>747578030>try to watch a stream of some midnight bossfight>pick one at random>circular arena with endless color circle spam vomit
>>747578030The response to this thread proves to me that the Western gaming industry will not "become better." There's way too much money in here for the large corporations. They will fight tooth and nail to prevent a 'correction' of the industry.
>>747578030Who cares. Retail without M+ and 4 tiers of difficulty is the only things I want.
>>747578264>Who cares.You should care, because you are not buying what you think you're buying. And if you do buy it, the people who sold that to you will be incentivized to trick you again.Do you not understand?
>Will botting be addressed?No.>Will RMT be addressed?No.Then why should anyone care about this? It's just Retail with a Classic skin. Dead on arrival unless you're a roleplayer or a whale.
>>747578317I'm not buying anything it's free
>>747577739how is it jewish to not want to buy something i have no intention of ever using? you sound jewish expecting me to pay for both just because they're lumped together and it's more profits that way
>>747578421>Then why should anyone care about this?Because I have friends I can play it with, which is the only reason to play WoW.
weapon skill won't be on items now so Edgies are now useless
how do i fulfill a ninja fantasy on this game
>>747578185yes, i am. some of the servers are packed.you sound really mad because your Midnight guild is going to die>>747578516lol, look at this jew kvetch about something he said doesn't matter
>>747578593according to whomst?
>>747578646some youtube video I just watched
>>747577927it's literally Wow 2.0they went back to what worked and was good, and polished it up. they fixed the specsthey're not going to make the same mistakes.
>>747578593you can bet with certainty that they'll strip most of the autism out of classic wow and replace it with basic stats that any mouth breather can understand
>>747578317who hurt you? you sound traumatized
>>747560248>not playing on a superior FFXI private server that is going live Sept. 24WoWfags don't actually realize how bad WoW is and it is sadhttps://phoenix-xi.com/
>>747577647Alright that would be a compromise
>>747578264what makes you think they won't add m+ eventually? they already added a reskinned oc elf so it's not that unlikely as you thinkenjoy supporting retail 2
>>747578795>FFXI private serverThese all are dogshit. Retail is still the best.
Only MMO I ever enjoyed was Elsword.
>>747578630Night elf rogue I or in retail demon hunter
>>747571860the only ones still reproducing are niggers and indians, if you're either of them you're already not human lmfao
>>747560248I don't think they can do it. OSRS, which is undoubtedly what they're going for, has meaningful quest and account progression with notable unlocks at various intervals.WoW, in comparison, has you collect 15 bearfurs for the choice between boots that give you stat A or boots that give you stat B.Them advertising "1000 quests" as if that's a positive is the most egregious thing.Fewer, higher quality quests with sizable rewards vs a myriad of shitty, uninspired slop with rewards that feel like an afterthought. Anyways, MAZE'd Blizzcucks will fall for it again as always.
>>747578819Then I won't play it anymore. Again, who cares. It's not that serious.
>>747578854common trope that is easily believable by idiots such as yourself. it's actually good but hey keep playing shit retail if ya want.
>>747560248Does it hurt waking up every day and having such a racialized viewpoint on your hobby? Do you even play games?
>>747578698you sure they're not just talking about racials not having weapon skill? i don't see how anyone would know that items no longer have it
imagine getting raped 3 times and then you come back to get raped againWoW players are subhuman faggots... imagine giving your money to nuBlizz
>>747560248What even is forever? Is it an expansion? A remake of base WoW? Whos buying this or even getting into WoW in 2026? I feel like blizzard is just banking on the current subs to just sub to this because I dont know anyone who's getting into WoW since theyre playing ff14 or other free live service games.
>>747578949>tranny drama server copeYeah whatever fag.
so does anyone actually know how this will play, will this actually be classic 3.0 or just their shot of nu retail with a lot of the retarded spaceship and jailer lore removed?
>being habitually online in my way good>being habitually online in your way le badWhy didn’t you just say that
>>747578795>FFXIlmao
>paying a monthyl sub>have to buy neck tranny racewhat's next? have to buy dungeons? fuck outta here nu-blizzard troons
great now you will have to, skil cooking because it gives xp boosts
>>747578795>https://phoenix-xi.com/this is the most pathetic thing i've ever seen on 4chan. lil baby thinks he's too special for Wow
>>747578819they're not going to, dipshit
LFM (dungon).. no Skyborne allowed
the goycattle test was already done when people started paying EVERY MONTH to play the same game they could for free on pservers
>>747579678>Have to buy neck tranny raceI just won't unless there's a non-shit lore justification (there won't be) about the only thing i could see making sense is if the Blue elves are actually super new on Azeroth and are just all the wisps that were unleashed when Archimonde got stabbed into the world tree.
>>747580264hell yea, i aint no goy! i dont pay for anything
lol they are not even releasing it with hardcore
>>747579101is it true that only trannies play ffxi?if i wanted a qt trans gf should i play?
>>747581060oh lawdie das turrible
>>747560248checkout the new talent trees:https://talentsforever.com/they're hella based
